Deshaun Watson to undergo season-ending shoulder surgery, Bill Belichick's new team? | THE HERD

Deshaun Watson will reportedly undergo season-ending shoulder surgery on his throwing arm. The Cleveland Browns QB suffered a broken bone on his throwing shoulder during the team's comeback win over the Baltimore Ravens. Colin Cowherd reacts to the news. Meanwhile, ESPN reported that Bill Belichick's next landing spot is 'already determined' and will leave the New England Patriots after this season concludes. One team brought up? The Washington Commanders. Colin explains why this would not be a good move by the Commanders.
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[@TheHerdOnFS1]

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[@bryanhallman8183]

Funny how Colin chronically neglects to mention how the Jets WHIFFED when drafting Sam "The Jets Are Going To Win The Super Bowl" Darnold...

[@lino2192]

How is he gonna act like Brady Manning and Stafford weren’t worth it when they won super bowls. Even if they suck afterwards they knew they were selling the future for a chip.

[@chikinlikin6947]

Ik he picked the 3 worst examples to start 💀💀

[@ghollaa]

If you win a Super Bowl with the Quarterback, you win. Simple. That’s the goal when you acquire those players. A ton of teams would prefer winning a Super Bowl and then being mediocre rather than not winning the Super Bowl and always being competitive.

[@lino2192]

@@ghollaa yeah that’s my point

[@brad.w9872]

He was showing that by year 2 there’s been regression in each situation. Making a move like this, you need to win early. Browns went all in this year. No chance they win it as Watson ages/more injuries

[@sleazytooez2313]

@@brad.w9872he’s not older like he stated either tho. Still in his mid 20’s

[@MegaCapitalG]

“Older quarterback”. Dude Deshaun is 28…

[@rafsimmz]

28 with two acl reconstructions, now a throwing shoulder surgery . Guy has physically aged quickly and is already on older side .

[@renesalinas8144]

😂🙆

[@scruffd0g193]

His 1 day older than Mahomes, but physically he’s way older.

[@trevormannion14]

@@rafsimmzdon’t forget he is also one of the most attended to athletes of our era.

[@b34rsfan5775]

came here to say this 😂

[@CouchtrollPodcastDS]

Any team will take a SB win in exchange for 5-7 years of bad years.

[@nnodw7721]

Keep telling folks I believe they shelved him after seeing him ball out and they know he's playing injured. This team in thinking super bowl.

[@wingedbuffalo4670]

100% CORRECT -- especially true of perennial losing teams (historically speaking overall) who have NEVER YET won a SB (alphabetically, think: Atlanta, Arizona, Buffalo, Carolina, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Detroit, Houston, Jacksonville, LA/SD Chargers, Minnesota, and Tennessee -- although several of those teams are NO LONGER "as desperate" because they NOW HAVE their "franchise QB" and are gradually building around him and no longer feel a need to "selling the farm" for 1 shot at a SB followed by nearly a decade of bad years). Plus there are a few more places whose fan bases are especially demanding and HAVE won a SB, but not recently (alphabetically think, especially: Dallas, NY Jets).

[@HD-J.R.]

Ozzie Newsome has said that mortgaging the future for any roster now is a mistake he would never make.... again. He did that after the 2000 Super Bowl and the team wasn't great again for several years. No sentimentality, and draft picks were worth more than gold. Teams that draft well have sustained success. They aren't making that deal. Offer the money, sure, not guaranteed. Some might offer a pick in the next draft, and another a year later. Watson deal was a mistake the day the ink dried. There's a lot of fans that are happy that every game is meaningful and competitive. Hoping to get to the show. After the season, there isn't one successful team and 31 failures. The league would die out if that were true.

[@pokerkramer1240]

More like 10 years, but yeah

[@yaboyskey]

He broke his shoulder during the ravens game.. different injury all together. He reeled off 16 straight with a broken shoulder.. actually insane

[@rodneycooperjr3223]

Also... he's not an older QB either. Dude's in his 20s.

[@yaboyskey]

@@rodneycooperjr3223 he just doesn’t like him. Just say that lol. There are far worse individuals in the NFL such as Tyreek Hill who punched his pregnant girlfriend in the stomach. Either separate the art from the artist with EVERYONE or play the moral high ground with EVERYONE.

[@mandarinandthetenrings2201]

I think that he already had injured shoulder and he was adjusting to it before the game but he reinjured the shoulder and that was it he was done for the season.

[@lightweight1365]

Colin is pathetic who spews word vomit.

[@chadpeterson6486]

I like Colin, but this is one of those times when he's forcing a terrible take. Manning, Brady and Stafford yielded a combined 4 Super Bowl appearances and 3 World Championships with their new teams. Brett Favre and Joe Montana got the Vikings and Chiefs to their respective Conference Championship games and Drew Brees was only 1 year younger than Deshaun is now when the Saints signed him. Even if those teams had to pay premiums that took a toll in the long run, I don't think any of them regret it.

[@piyushdeshpande5475]

But that’s exactly the thing, it only worked in the short term. It’s not that Brady, Manning, and Stafford were failures, but that the teams awfully regressed after year 2. The Browns haven’t gotten anything in the first two years of Deshaun and they’re handicapped with what they can do so things will only get worse with the team. So, I think the argument is that you have to win the SB quickly with these splash trades or it will become disastrous quickly.

[@Vichinsky-ox8px]

​@piyushdeshpande5475 of course it would only work in the short term they are old players. That's why you go All in.

[@DualityUnlimited]

Yeah his initial premiere was inaccurate Deshaun isn’t an older QB. He is forcing all of his Talking Points!

[@DualityUnlimited]

@@Vichinsky-ox8px Most Contenders have 3-5 years of a Window for a Super Bowl without a Guarantee of actually winning or appearing. Football isn’t known for Dynasties it’s known for Parity. The Entire Premise is faulty!

[@WolfofAsia012]

I used to like Colin but lost all respect since his coddling Russel Wilson, Sean Payton, Sam Darnold and Draymond green. This dude will put anyone else under the bus to support his guys…. So pathetic to be honest 😂

[@timr6318]

Older QB? The man isn't even 30 yet lol.

[@WolfofAsia012]

Colin will say anything at this point. Dude is total crazy since his boyfriend Sam darnold didn’t work out

[@richardfike9339]

The browns are 6-3 and just beat the hardest team they had left on their schedule this man doesn't know what he's talking about he just hates the browns

[@baits8420]

this is the guy that said the steelers should give up 2 firsts TJ watt and george pickens for caleb williams btw

[@positivityn_action3765]

Which still doesn't go against his point 😂😂 He said u shouldn't mortgage ya future for an AGING Qb

[@baits8420]

@@positivityn_action3765 i know i just enjoy pointing out the dumbest takes in sports history

[@danielgalan1920]

If I’m the Steelers GM, I would definitely do that deal.

[@edercervantes8876]

​@@danielgalan1920you're stupid? How can you give the best player of the team and one of the best Edge Rushers on the league for a guy that we don't know if he would be good

[@MrScotty2Hotty28]

@@positivityn_action3765It may not go against his point, but it's even more smooth-brained than his point. Caleb Williams is not a guarantee to be good. Staff, Brady, and Manning were. Deshaun cod all intents and purposes was. Also, the Steelers aren't a QB-away, they have many weaknesses. The Browns, Broncos, Bucs, and Rams were a QB away

[@NobleVagabond2552]

Only Colin could take an easy layup segment and turn it into a head scratching L. I mean seriously, this was terrible lol

[@innnews6299]

Brady was worth every penny and more for the Bucs. TB12 jersey will be forever best selling at Tampa Bay.

[@kingcollins3965]

No one but Bucc fans will ever associate TB12 to the Buccs. 😂😂😂

[@lakingpaul]

@@kingcollins3965 He won a superbowl there, everyone will remember that and partially associate him there where he ended his career. Just like we talk about the Broncos with Peyton.

[@kingcollins3965]

@lakingpaul when most people think about Payton, they think about Payton with marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark, Stokely, and James. Not that the Broncos didn't matter but that he will mainly be remembered as a Colt. Same with Tom, Tom won 6 Superbowls with NE in a 100 years no one going to think about Tom Brady with the Buccs. No one thinks about Montana with Chiefs. Just people who know the game. And i understand that Montana didn't win a ring, but he made it to the AFC championship and had some good years KC.

[@innnews6299]

@@kingcollins3965 That makes Tom Brady’s Bucs TB12 more rare and worth even more

[@innnews6299]

@@lakingpaul Absolutely in agreement

[@truoewi]

In his mind the Browns will never do anything right. There's no way to predict this injury would happen. He talks about how the QB is the most important position (which it is) then criticizes teams for going for proven stars. Gotta be the most stubborn guy on the planet.

[@philipchambers2754]

He comparing 80 year olds to a 27 year old 😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@ortonra]

Denver didn't mortgage anything for Peyton. He was a free agent signing in 2012.

[@juanvaldes-macias]

Imagine J. Dobbs with this defense

[@devincooper4243]

He was already there .

[@capcitylandtv2383]

It didn't work twice

[@tech_deck_boi7435]

Could you imagine Bill coming back to finish his career at the browns

[@clarkkent1521]

Yes, because the Browns make bad decisions.

[@Vichinsky-ox8px]

That would be the craziest thing in NFL history.

[@christopherporter5472]

Peyton won an MVP his 2nd year in Denver. Yes, the defense carried him the last year, but 2SB appearances, with a win and an MVP. I think that went perfect for Denver. Brady and Stafford won their first year on a new team. That is as perfect as it gets. This is dumb take by Colin. Trading all those picks is teams rolling the dice that they get HOF QB play for multiple years and a chance to win. You don't always win when you gamble.

[@KBillysSoundsOfThe70s-iz3op]

Stunk out the joint in actually both Super Bowl games

[@MrRocket100]

@@KBillysSoundsOfThe70s-iz3opdoesn’t matter still a legend and a pivotal piece in both of the teams successes

[@KBillysSoundsOfThe70s-iz3op]

@@MrRocket100 No doubt.. The Colts and Denver never get to 3 of those SB's without Manning (except the last win where Manning was basically a cripple). I still find it a complete mystery how Peyton tossed 55 TD's that one season then put up a big Goose Egg against Seattle in that SB. The next year Brady threw 4 TD's against Seattle's defense in the SB. I think it was the first time any QB threw 4 TD's against Seattle in over 4 seasons.

[@MrRocket100]

@@KBillysSoundsOfThe70s-iz3opI went back to watch that Seattle Broncos Superbowl I just think the Broncos offense was overwhelmed with the Seattle defense although giving up a safety the Broncos still had a chance to even the score because the Broncos defense was doing good in the beginning 20 of those Seattle points were due to Broncos mistakes kinda weird but you watched the same happen to Carolina they were too overwhelmed by the Broncos Defense I basically learned you ALMOST NEVER bet against the #1 Defense in the Superbowl

[@KBillysSoundsOfThe70s-iz3op]

@@MrRocket100 Well you would have lost that bet because a year later Brady lighted up the Seahawks #1 defense for 4 TD's passing and a (THEN) SB record 37 completions. And before that SB game Brady lighted up the Ravens and the Colts in the playoffs for 80 points. 7 TD's and 700 yards passing . Ravens defense was ranked 6th that season

[@Gandalf1232]

I feel like I'm dumber from having been exposed to this nonsense. You're comparing qb's that were in their mid-late 30's and for Rodgers and Brady you're talking 40+ compared to a guy still a couple years from even hitting 30. If DW is an "old" quarterback, you, Colin, are an ancient crypt keeper.

[@wesley1782]

They should put Skip Bayless, Max kellerman, and cowherd on a show together they would jus be yelling over each other the whole time 😂

[@aaronbeall8280]

Denver, La and Tampa wouldn’t do it diffirent if they could. They got a championship out of it.

[@airfleet7916]

The problem is there's seldom a high-quality free agent QB available each off-season. And drafts require years of digging through coal to find a diamond, with lucky exceptions. Bottom line, there never enough high caliber QB's to go around. You gotta work with what's available.

[@seangadson3085]

Right he is leaving out that part lol.

[@allgopodcast]

Colin trying to act like a SB wasn’t worth it for Brady, Stafford, Peyton. What the heck is he talking about?

[@ranma36]

Cool story, now do Aaron Rodger’s and the Jets!

[@jackoneill1336]

This is such a bad take. You can hate the Deshawn trade all you want. But Denver, Tampa, and LA got a Super Bowl. Rodgers getting hurt was unforeseeable. A better comparison would be the Colts signing Rivers, Wentz, and Ryan

[@theegreatbrain]

How is Deshaun an “older” qb?

[@CaNtHoNY127]

The Watson deal will go down as one of the worst in the history of sports, but the take at the beginning is just bizarre. Three outta the five examples he gave are counter arguments to the idea that you shouldn’t acquire aging QBs. Manning, Brady, and Stafford all won super bowls, so what if they all sucked for a few years after? Outside of the chiefs, I don’t know any fanbases that wouldn’t immediately sign up for that deal. Second of all, Watson wasn’t even an aging QB in the first place. Those guys he all listed were either exiting or already had exited their primes. Watson is still in his 20’s. The real mistake was giving the largest contract ever to a guy who hadn’t played in over a year due to massive off the field issues. Had nothing to do with his age and everything to do with his character.

[@blaketindle4703]

I thought Dan Snyder was no longer the owner in Washington? Seriously I can’t believe any team would be STUPID enough to hire Belichick to be head coach AND GM!!! 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@Boshyballs]

I’ve never seen a sports show where the show was more about the host then the actual sport.

[@mfalco22]

Not comparable. Since when is 28 an “older quarterback?” Mahomes is the same age and no one is referring to him as old. Peyton was 36 his first year on the Broncos, Brady was 43 and Stafford was 33 lol. Awful take.

[@verytiredatdoingthis]

Colin Cowturd the Monday QB. Like injuries don’t happen to young QB’s. Injuries are a part of sport.

[@kayvonjefferson9545]

As a commanders fan please do not make Belichick the head coach/ GM.

[@blaketindle4703]

I feel bad for y’all if it’s true.

[@rexfordmorgan7552]

Colin has lost the gift of believable garbage points. Ten years ago he would have made this at least sort of rationale. Fox made a bad signing….

[@DMKFACTOR]

Belichick’s next staff: OC: McDaniels DC: his kid ST: Judge Guy will never change!

[@MrMustard75]

“Yeah they only won a super bowl for their teams”…buddy as Tampa fan, we can suck for another decade. I’m happy.

[@jayhopkins3329]

The best part of this is when Colin says Washington shouldn't want Bill but the Sam Howell disrespect will not be tolerated

[@ceeaz1633]

But he’s kind of right. I’m just saying , what’s our record ? Howell is good , but he’s got a lot of work to do.

[@agnideva8227]

I'd counter that almost every elite QB historically leaves a mess when they are finished. In my life there's only a few counter examples: Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay, Steve Young in San Fran, and maybe Andrew Luck with the Colts (didn't win a SB though). Most likely you'll be searching for a long time to fill the shoes of an elite signal caller, and it's hard to see LA or Tampa Bay regret their championships despite hard times now.

[@aaronclay4665]

What are u talking g about? Luck and young DID leave a mess when they left, maybe u mean montan and manning? Fact is All elite qb leave a mess when THEY leave, even if u include Farve Montana and manning... Because they TEAM moved on. From them, they didn't want to move . Colin is off his rocker

[@clootscalhoun9481]

I like how his first three examples of similar quarterback moves that he says were awful all included a Super Bowl victory.

[@benshihadeh8561]

Brace yourself, massage jokes will flood the KZbins. So funny … sarcasm

[@damonmurphy1547]

Thank you and people are SUPER lame for that

[@MisterPfizer-um1vo]

Colin you’re calling a 28 year old QB old comparing him to Peyton manning and Stafford? Same guy telling me selling out for the Super Bowl was worth it but now 3 years later it’s bad? What was the browns other option? Draft another QB; Fire the coach, hire a new one with a new scheme 3 other times; draft another QB after contract is up? At least they took a chance on a guy to attempt to get something better than drafting a qb as they can’t do that either

[@paulcooper1046]

The outcome of the Browns' season is undetermined. Deshaun Watson hasn't been that significant of a factor in their success. We have no idea what's going to happen in these games. That's why we're not professional gamblers. Let's go Texans!...💯

[@kevinb2844]

I would take Tampa Bay situation with getting a Super Bowl victory

[@bluntone2273]

Sorry but being a good team for ten years without a superbowl is not better than a superbowl win and a few bad years.

[@franciscallahan5835]

when the rumors are stating that Belichick's move is predetermined that sounds pretty bad for the Commanders. Not looking for younger coaching talent is so short sided!

[@jondiaz6652]

I’ll still take a SB and welcome all those problems after lol

[@pcontiman]

Thanks for the Cleveland story. We love our Brownies but they got no clue on QBs. Fact. Sad but true

[@claudiogonzalez9330]

Billichek drafted 1 good QB. But that 1 QB was around for 20 years and is literally the GOAT.

[@dontthinktohard3991]

People won’t admit it but he was playing better than Dak. Feel for the kid he’s a great man better Qb this sucks

[@saint6563]

Stafford, Payton & Brady all got the franchises a Lombard. Totally worth it. Even Rodgers sold Ts LOL

[@nightowl1337]

Sorry bucs and Rams trade was a success as they won a Super Bowl.

[@neanderthalsnavel7411]

My favorite nu-Browns QB was Jeff Garcia. Not because he was good. But because two women, who looked exactly the same, fought over him in a bar. That's classy entertainment right there.

[@KBillysSoundsOfThe70s-iz3op]

Jeff Garcia wasn't bad as a Niner actually 4 Pro Bowls

[@DoubleO787]

As an Eagles Fan, I would absolutely LOVE Bill to be Head Coach in Washington!!! Bienimy is a pain in the arse!!

[@eliezerruiz4447]

No. The Giants Did ?

[@TeeMan3Sharp]

Cleveland is slow playing him, paying only 1 million this is year is insurance for these next 3 years where the contract is 50 million per year.

[@ERSLIFE-we1mg]

Agreed

[@thesciguy4823]

LMAO, Imagine thinking WINNING A SUPERBOWL was a bad move.

[@ChapoRicco]

Smh all these injuries

[@ianemory5800]

If you told me signing an old star gave me a 50/50 change at a super bowl win I'd take it.

[@youtuber55629]

Bro how does Colin just gloss over the fact that 3 of those free agency acquisitions ended up with a SB ring? Crazy that’s literally why teams play is to win the superbowl.

[@Tater2018]

The only person who needs to be on the hotseat for the Jets is Zach Wilson. I dont know why we drafted him over so many other better players. I would of rather had Penei Sewell on the oline and Mike White as our back-up over Zach.

[@bruceallen6377]

I heard he’s going to the chargers!

[@craigdzikowski3514]

this was gard to listen to

[@timothyforsythe3155]

Wilson isn't as old as some of the other QB's you mentioned. He is only 28. He isn't aging!

[@RamsTalk]

Rams will have $60M+ on cap space and all their picks next year. They also nailed the 2023 draft. Stafford will most likely play one more season and when healthy is a top 10 QB.

[@kentrossi1165]

Deshaun is way younger than those guys

[@joelogan1452]

HOWELL IS THE GUY! He’s had one bad game last 3 games 300yrds 3TDs

[@drsnyder61]

As a viking s fan. I would take a superbowl win and see the team go 2 and 15 the rest of my life😢

[@stevethebeave]

What a terrible take. Winning a superbowl is what its all about. Every team would sell the next 5 to 10 years for a superbowl because they're so hard to win. I mean is he really trying to push that the mamning, brady, and stafford moves were bad? Cmon Collin.

[@randolphduke]

I disagree that these deals are zero for six. All of these teams (except the Browns) knew going in that these old quarterback deals were for the short term and that the injury risk was higher. Brady, Manning, and Stafford all got the team a Super Bowl win. That's .500 with a championship. That's a massive win in my book.

[@joegardner851]

Wait wasn’t this man okay with the rams giving up their future to win now? Now it’s a bad thing

[@FredPhilpJr]

Colin sthu. Deshaun is 28 years old. He’ll be fine.

[@anthonyslazas6413]

New Orleans had 30+ million on the books after Drew retired.

[@2SHanK5]

But I’m confused on Matt like we still have a lot of cap and We have proven we can draft now Mcvay and Snead have a full draft and a full offseason of cap Matt still have atleast 3 years

[@daleprice8111]

BECAUSE OF THE SALARY-CAP , TEAMS MUST INVEST MORE WISELY TO MAINTAIN QUALITY PLAYERS.

[@daviddillard9497]

Let’s slow down on flushing the season down the toilet

[@2isthisnameavailable]

Saying payton didnt work is dumb, by that logic the only qbs to ever truly work were farve and montana since they had hall of famers waiting behind them. Signing manning in free agency didnt set the franchise back, their inability to scout qbs after did.

[@mattpaul5441]

Colin smiled when he found out that watson was out for the season. And he pretending that Watson is 38 and not 28. Cleveland could win 3 superbowls and colin would say but the great franchises have at least 5.

[@duzzitmatter8679]

Deshaun Watson is 28y/o. Comes back and can still have 6more yrs. Silly take considering he’s the been the single biggest proponent of “This is a QB driven League”.

[@stevengraham3138]

Super Bowl two brayd and manning that was perfect

[@vitorapollinario9335]

Washington is doing, there's been this speculation for around two months now. Can't understand. The job that Bieniemy is doing in Washington is just remarkable, i don't know if he gonna succeed has a head coach seems to rigid, but he's work with Sam Howell, great. Let's be honest, today there's no gap between Sam Howell and Brock Purdy, and neither of the two are "the guy". And giving GM status, is crazy.

[@joeking433]

I think Belichick goes to the Bills.

[@EmperorPretzel]

Sam Howell is leading the league in yards...

[@positivityn_action3765]

So did Matt Schaub

[@ZoeLifeNoLife]

Colin gonna regret shitting on Howell...he is the real deal.

[@stephenstapleton1324]

Howell still learning?

[@Donnydon1996]

So renting your future for a star QB works more then not. Brady manning Stafford. It works. Bad take

[@MycketTrendig]

Now im late to get here for the comments... but Manning broke some passing records that are still unbroken once he got to Denver. AND he won a superbowl. Also why not risk everything for a title... lord.

[@hasbun88]

I can imagine Colin jumping with happiness when the story came out today. You just hate Watson for his off-field issues, which is fair, but he was turning a corner. I forget that Cowherd is Mr. High Morals and Ego.

[@tylervincent8424]

Well, Marcus Jones was an all pro special teams player and he’s just injured

[@piratepeyton4371]

Bellichick would be a coaching upgrade anywhere. I think his message is just lost after so many years in New England and now no Brady. Definitely dont think he should be a GM though lol

[@champphifer2197]

Colin sounds like a hater on this one. Dude just beat the Ravens in BALTIMORE!

[@Omar-kt6in]

The Chiefs, Eagles 49er's draft well. Lions are turning it around by drafting well also.

[@MrPppitts1]

All the comments on how people were saying he was soft.. Cuz, has been hurt for a long time this season

[@jimmorris4122]

Watch out ladies, Watson is going to need a lot of messages on that shoulder.

[@positivityn_action3765]

Colin is mostly right about NE except Christian Gonzales is goin to be good I think

[@agaryh7603]

Marcus Jones was an all pro last year and had a season ending injury early this year, it was a poor draft but Colin is literally saying Bill got zero production from a guy that was all pro as a rookie

[@kayla0002134266654]

NO WAY HE GOES TO WASHINGTON

[@reese44622]

Funny your always saying take the big swing

[@carlos6852]

I think Jim Harborough is the perfect coach for the Chargers and if the Chargers can get him they will be Super Bowl bound within 3-4 years but he would need to have more control and as long as he can produce I would go after him.

[@pcontiman]

With Brady retired, how is there a cap hit ????

[@MustardGas261]

Broncos had to do something. You cannot sit there and tell me we had to stick with Teddy Dogwater. That was going nowhere

[@jonbaker2102]

This is why you don't give big contracts to anyone other than a Brady or a Mahomes.

[@aaronclay4665]

Why, cuz qb get injured? This is what I told ppl when they say don't give rb contracts. OTS FOOTBALL EVERYONE GETS HURT... I DO agree tho the qb contract market is out of control. I would not play ANYONE that money, Tom never got it that's why whe won, and maholmes contract didn't get bad until this year( which is why they got rid of hill sold off an olineman and won't be able to afford Chris Jones next year) Cheifs won't win another super bowl for. A long time all things being equal. Bit they have a good chance cuz of maholmes

[@12packersfan]

If anyone else was getting season ending surgery I’d feel absolutely awful for them. That being said I hope Watson comes back next year looking worse than ever