Design & Cast your own Hotend Silicone Socks!

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I love E3Ds silicone socks but already had them ruin quite some prints of mine. In today's video I'll improve the existing design, create a 3D printed 5-part silicone mold in Autodesk Fusion 360 and then cast new socks using high temperature 2-part silicone.
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@CNCKitchen
@CNCKitchen 5 жыл бұрын
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@celulari
@celulari 5 жыл бұрын
Can you please share the mold for the volcano hotend?
@CNCKitchen
@CNCKitchen 5 жыл бұрын
I printed and molded this one: www.thingiverse.com/thing:3015676 Closed most of the holes with tape, though.
@fliegenmann2562
@fliegenmann2562 5 жыл бұрын
I did some silicone molds in the past and always used a vibrating sander to help reduce the bubbles. 😬👍
@Sven_Hein
@Sven_Hein 5 жыл бұрын
Which TFC silicone did you use? The link to Amazon just shows me some 200°C silicone... Greetings from Germany!
@Uterr
@Uterr 5 жыл бұрын
Please, make update to a video. I regularly doing silicone moldings and i must say, my silicone parts that i made flammable. Not just charring or something, it burns in flames, bright and hot. So please, don't do this silicone hotend sock, unless you know what exactly your silicone is.
@davegrandeffo330
@davegrandeffo330 5 жыл бұрын
You are a very talented and intelligent young man, Stephan; I'm sure glad you didn't quit after your second video bombed! It would have been a great loss to the 3D printing community!
@ddegn
@ddegn 5 жыл бұрын
This makes so many cool things possible. You don't need to print with flexible material to get flexible parts, you can print a mold using normal material and use this trick to make heat resistant flexible parts. I think this video just pushed me over the edge into actually ordering a 3D printer.
@CNCKitchen
@CNCKitchen 5 жыл бұрын
If you know at least some CAD or are open to learn it, a 3D printer is an awesome tool!
@KieranShort
@KieranShort 5 жыл бұрын
Not just flexible parts. I've printed a mold and used it to form a concrete mold.
@underourrock
@underourrock 4 жыл бұрын
@@KieranShort Not just solid or flexible parts. I've printed a mold and used it to form an air mold. (kidding aside, I really liked this video and thought your comment about making something out of concrete was cool...what was it? I just wanted to add a tongue in cheek take of molding something unusual along with the more serious question about what you made out of concrete.)
@michaelbujaki2462
@michaelbujaki2462 4 жыл бұрын
I own the Vertex nano, don't buy it.
@walkerjl8
@walkerjl8 4 жыл бұрын
If your medium is temperature-resistant (and you only need one or two) you don't even have to build multipart molds. Just print in PLA, fill the mold, and melt it away with a heat gun.
@CHSidChou
@CHSidChou 4 жыл бұрын
using syringe to de-bubble is smart, never thought of that
@reverse_engineered
@reverse_engineered 2 жыл бұрын
No kidding! At first I was thinking that he should use a vacuum chamber to degas the silicone, but the syringe makes a perfectly capable vacuum itself.
@michieljames737
@michieljames737 5 жыл бұрын
So glad that you sticked to creating content. Your contribution towards 3D printing is of immesurable value! Thank you and keep them coming! 👌
@Mobin92
@Mobin92 Жыл бұрын
That was obviously a lie to manipulate you into giving a like...
@riba2233
@riba2233 2 ай бұрын
​@@Mobin92 there always has to be someone like you in the comments... Useless troll
@mspacone
@mspacone 5 жыл бұрын
Dude! This is awesome! What an awesome video. I appreciate you going over the process and sharing!
@gunsmoke132
@gunsmoke132 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you didn't quit and fought through it. You're one of my favorite and most informative 3D printing channels.
@ianide2480
@ianide2480 5 жыл бұрын
A touch of vaseline jelly between the mating surfaces will reduce liquid leakage and reduce amount of flashing that's left over
@CNCKitchen
@CNCKitchen 5 жыл бұрын
Great tip!
@jimbit22
@jimbit22 5 жыл бұрын
Yes but it needs a very little amount so it doesn't spill into the mold cavity. I use botox syringes to apply it. You can dilute the vaseline with mineral spirits to get a better paste to work with.
@markjacksmarkjacks
@markjacksmarkjacks 5 жыл бұрын
Also, as you assemble it, you can wipe away any superfluous vaseline with a Q-tip.
@jackisonline2
@jackisonline2 4 жыл бұрын
Plasticine works well also
@koolkevin2357
@koolkevin2357 3 жыл бұрын
Using 91/99% IPA: Put any amount, say 6-12 OZ. in a capable bottle (CLEAN soda bottle works well), put in about 1 Once or more of vaseline, shake well let rest 5 minutes and shake WELL again (maybe use a 100*F water bath) let cool to room temp. Excess will fall out of solution and collect at bottom. Pour this mold release (not the stuff that fell out of solution) into a fine mist sprayer (with new label of course) and spray away, coat all surfaces well, you can't really overspray this unless you really try... Let air dry till the IPA has evaporated completely. In 5 years making vacuum molds for signs I've never had a failure and it also takes away any moisture the mold may have absorbed and is almost completely invisible in the finished product. Hint: Don't use it thinking you can fill voids with it - just the thinest of compleat films is what you are after.
@spikekent
@spikekent 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Stefan, Great tutorial. I too have been using silicone socks ever since E3D first released them, as you said, they are great for keeping temps stable and the nozzles clean.
@jacquesarsenault8367
@jacquesarsenault8367 5 жыл бұрын
This is great! And yes please, I would totally be interested in more silicone or resin videos. You explain things quite well!
@exaltdragon
@exaltdragon 5 жыл бұрын
I did something similar with a 2 part PLA mold but I used an acrylic glue called Genii Quartz to smooth out the 3d print layer striations before casting.
@terryk3118
@terryk3118 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Stefan! I learned a new process and also some more capabilities of Fusion. Thanks for staying with it.
@vizionthing
@vizionthing 5 жыл бұрын
One of the top ten video's this year so far
@AG-cg7lk
@AG-cg7lk Жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for making your hard work available as Fusion files. I used it to make a modified version that wraps around the high flow nozzle extender I am using.
@chuysaucedo7119
@chuysaucedo7119 3 жыл бұрын
GEEZ. wow. You make some of the best videos. THIS was perfect for something I'm looking into doing. Now, I just need to learn F360 more, and try this!! THANK YOU ! ! !
@reverse_engineered
@reverse_engineered 2 жыл бұрын
This is great! My wife and I make silicone moulds for casting things in epoxy resin. We use laser cut acrylic and/or 3D printed resin to create the masters that we form the moulds around. Turning that around and using the 3D printed material as the mould and the silicone as the casting is straightforward and allows for further flexibility in the kinds of things we can produce. I look forward to casting my own silicone sock using your ideas!
@StianIndalHaugseth
@StianIndalHaugseth 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, this is an awesome idea! I have started using a tusk design on a print cooler. You gave me an idea to incorporate the tusk (tubes) partly in the sock. Either just to give the tusks more room or even help holding them in place. I could even make a silicon fan "shroud" to connect the tusks to the fan.
@randomname4726
@randomname4726 4 жыл бұрын
Your mold making skills are excellent, very nice result.
@zimmy1958
@zimmy1958 5 жыл бұрын
I love the socks that I have used so this will make it easier for me to get new/better ones. THANKS
@danapatelzick594
@danapatelzick594 4 жыл бұрын
Well done on the history based features of Fusion360. It can be very powerful as you demonstrate.
@Flederratte
@Flederratte 3 жыл бұрын
Nice idea! I work with this silicone all the time. I use if for making moulds for casting lead, tin, wax, resin and sulphur.
@torymblue2000
@torymblue2000 4 жыл бұрын
Nice, came here because was looking to create a sock for the 360 round heater, this is quite helpful.
@jamesb4242
@jamesb4242 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, I printed in ABS and put this together on an e3d titan aero with a 0.25mm nozzle and it came out amazing! Did acetone smoothing wherever I could. will be posting my make on thingiverse. Fits great and retuned the PID's on the hotend and I've never seen such a smooth line in my octoprint temperature history vs the stock e3d sock! It also inspired me to design my own molds to make spring replacements for my taz 5's heated bed
@avejst
@avejst 5 жыл бұрын
Impressive mould and design Fantastic job Thanks for sharing👍😀
@daaf3149
@daaf3149 4 жыл бұрын
Great project! I've been thinking about making custom socks for my printer because the E3D socks don't fit mine. I had a hard time finding the right silicone. Thank you for the inspiration! I will def. do a version too!
@shophacks
@shophacks 5 жыл бұрын
This video is a great mix of teaching and entertainment. Thanks for sharing.
@scorfman1
@scorfman1 5 жыл бұрын
Holy crap! Awesome and thanks!
@Taconiteable
@Taconiteable 5 жыл бұрын
Wow really awesome! Thanks for putting so much work in your content.
@mikeneron
@mikeneron 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Would like to see more of this in the future. In Fusion, you can use the boundary fill to figure out the volume of something which would give you an idea of how much silicone you would need to use.
@ThunderPantz01
@ThunderPantz01 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome as usual Stefan!
@HobbyHoarder
@HobbyHoarder 5 жыл бұрын
Never thought of printing a mold for silicone, great idea.
@agapiosagapiou
@agapiosagapiou 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent project! It shows the real extent of 3D printing capabilitys!
@danapatelzick594
@danapatelzick594 4 жыл бұрын
The instructions on silicone casting is very useful. Thanks
@lumberjackengineering2649
@lumberjackengineering2649 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! One thing that I've found that has helped out with the E3D socks is to tightly wrap a piece of Kapton tape around the sock to make sure it stays in place. The tape doesn't stick to the silicone, but if you do a couple of wraps it'll stick to itself. Since I started doing this, I've not had a single issue with even the Pro E3D socks!
@underourrock
@underourrock 4 жыл бұрын
I suspect some simple finishing process either sanding down the mold or applying something that could act like bondo putty for plastics might allow someone to make a 3d printed mold smoother if they desired. I started down the path of making my own silicone mold but got distracted by something else. I'm glad you persevered where I didn't. It's really neat to see someone do this. I have a different heat block, so I'm more likely to pick it back up and utilize things I learned from your design in the strength and separation aspects of your mold. That helps a lot!
@jupiter909
@jupiter909 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic project! Thanks for showing us!
@kacheric
@kacheric 4 жыл бұрын
As always, really great content. Keep up the great work it so helpful to see content like this.
@WolfsHaven
@WolfsHaven 5 жыл бұрын
I've considered doing something like this for a while. It's a great idea for anything you need to make multiple copies of. It's faster than printing each and in this case any rubber you can print won't stand up to the heat.
@MrKarriban
@MrKarriban 5 жыл бұрын
I've actually had far more success using the "pro" version of e3d's sock with the tiny hole for the end of the nozzle as compared to the second, more open design. For whatever reason I ended up having material stick to the exposed nozzle and glob up pretty frequently. The more covered design completely eliminated that problem for me. Your custom sock design looks really good though. I really like the tighter fitment as compared to e3d's version. I'll be giving this a try as soon as I get the parts in :)
@MakunaRGBIC
@MakunaRGBIC 4 жыл бұрын
I had the same issue when printing with nylon, it sticks to the nozzle until I used a sock with the smaller hole.
@jeffkosowsky67
@jeffkosowsky67 Жыл бұрын
I actually bought the thin hole version first and it didn't work well for me - the sock just didn't seem to fit well. The one with the larger hole fits better and lasted a lot longer...
@JopieUTube
@JopieUTube 4 жыл бұрын
I've been using high temp silicone adhesive from the hardware store for wood stoves, ovens and stuff to create my sock. Has been working fine for over a year with temps up to 240 C. Way easier to get rid of the bubbles though with liquid two component silicone, that's for sure.
@rkatz69
@rkatz69 5 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video dude, I think i'm gonna try and make a couple for usage in our print lab :)
@baschz
@baschz 5 жыл бұрын
cool to see you combining several things I like and like to work with as well. great video.
@NicksStuff
@NicksStuff 4 жыл бұрын
This channel is such a gem
@Netherlands031
@Netherlands031 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome project. Cool to see everything that came up - mold halves not fitting, bubbles in the silicone. Not one of these youtube projects where everything is easy and goes smoothly.
@jonwebb9261
@jonwebb9261 4 жыл бұрын
What a great guide. To help with flashing, try modelling in angled shut off faces, this really helps.
@karnal3
@karnal3 4 жыл бұрын
couple of hours and i create my own silicone mold :D now print and check the results
@peterwiegel4778
@peterwiegel4778 3 жыл бұрын
Once again, great inventions ! You're a pro!
@shelbyseelbach9568
@shelbyseelbach9568 Жыл бұрын
This mold is freaking fantastic. I am using Permatex Hi Temp 81160. This is such a better sock than the commercially available ones that a comparison isn't even really fair.
@clarkso65
@clarkso65 3 жыл бұрын
You are a genius man!!! I really love this channel :)))
@chloemcholoe3280
@chloemcholoe3280 5 жыл бұрын
I LITTERALY WAS CHECKING THE thingiverse PAGE again out of curiosity and this popped on my youtube xD perfect timing
@tonysplace8009
@tonysplace8009 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation and very helpful 👍
@xionix4
@xionix4 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the syringe vacuum bubble trick. :)
@bryansiepert9222
@bryansiepert9222 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! You could use this technique to add molded strain reliefs to cables!
@jannikthyzen1407
@jannikthyzen1407 3 жыл бұрын
this is so nice, and exactly what i was looking for ! thank you!
@Nightmare-eo4io
@Nightmare-eo4io 2 жыл бұрын
These could be amazing for custom gaskets for prototyping. Needed this exact kinda thing a few months back
@datapenguin
@datapenguin 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent job! Amazing video!
@Haakkon
@Haakkon 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah silicone mold making is a joy! It almost gives you as much new possibilities for making things as a 3D printer does. However, doing a vacuum degassing using the syringe was pure genius! I'll have to try that. One thing you can try to reduce flashing is to apply petroleum jelly or similar on the faces that mate. Not the sides the touch silicone but just to close the gaps.
@nathanpayne7396
@nathanpayne7396 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! Learnt a few tips in fusion 360.
@treyabolicum
@treyabolicum 3 жыл бұрын
Love the idea dude, awesome work. Dankeschön!
@salmanslim
@salmanslim 2 жыл бұрын
Nice work Stefan
@bugbot42
@bugbot42 5 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial! I've solved all of my problems with the (pro) silicone sock falling off with a bent paperclip that goes around the sock. The springiness of the clip keep it squeezing the sock in place and I can simply pinch the ends of the clip to release it from the block. Super easy and effectively $0
@kachler67
@kachler67 3 жыл бұрын
Great video first of all! Have you also thought about printing a positive model of the sock, of which you cast a negative silicone mould? This enables the option of surface treating the positive print, which you can see lately in your finished part. Had some great result with this method, and I think this would simplify the demoulding of the sock even further.
@JohnOCFII
@JohnOCFII 5 жыл бұрын
Very cool project, and nicely explained! At the point where I began to wonder why the mold looks the way it does, you began to describe the design iteration process. I too, think this is a better, tighter design. Separately, I find my silicon socks from E3D don’t last near as long when printing PETG at 250C compared to PLA at 210C.
@MarioIArguello
@MarioIArguello 4 жыл бұрын
I would not cut slots for the heater element or temp resistor. Yes, this means you would have to remove the heater element and thermistor before installing the sock and re-install them after, but this way the silicon sock remains in place with less chance of slipping in use. If you design your silicon mold with a small lip or flange around the perimeter at the top of the hot end block, it will grab it more securely.To prevent flashing you can use modeling clay to seal the edges of the 3d Printed mold clean. Option for silicon sock material, I believe you can simply bypass the 2 part silicon mixing and use a professional construction true silicon tube (no latex mix) or a hot temp automotive silicon, a lot cheaper, make multiple molds and you can pour and cure all of them at basically the same time and not waste any silicon, plus you can use them after 1 day curing. I have done a lot of silicon molds in my time, using 2 part silicons to duplicate parts in various types of mold making media. This is many times a messy process, why I think using a tube of ready to use high temp silicon will work for something like a small sleeve, like these hot end socks. You don't need to degass , special equipment, just a couple holes on the mold, one to pour (in case of a construction silicon tube to force the material thru) and another to vent excess.
@AT-ny4ct
@AT-ny4ct 4 жыл бұрын
Super Job ! I really enjoyed your video and learned quit a bit. Thanks.
@terryclair2914
@terryclair2914 5 жыл бұрын
Wonderful work!
@LonersGuide
@LonersGuide 2 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for yet another great video, and for sharing the .stl!
@rcmaniac25
@rcmaniac25 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Saw the model a day or two ago and was waiting for the video. I've not had any issue with the "new" sock, though this video prompted me to double check it and I see a few tabs starting to come loose, so I pushed them back in place. On the video itself, everything was top quality as usual... except the Fusion 360 section. You came across as nervous to me. Just pointing that out. Otherwise, looking forward to what you put out next!
@lavondaniels6672
@lavondaniels6672 2 жыл бұрын
I actually dip my hot and in one layer of candle wax and then dip it in high temperature silicone until I get my preferred thickness and it makes a nice tight fitting sock for my hot end
@matthewwain9958
@matthewwain9958 2 жыл бұрын
Really neat!! Thank you for sharing.
@kevinwalker2529
@kevinwalker2529 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks for the info. I will try this method.
3 жыл бұрын
Gonna cast suppressor wipes for my PBS-1 AK47 suppressor using this. Thank you for the inspiration!
@vladimirshumilov7846
@vladimirshumilov7846 5 жыл бұрын
Great job! Thanks a lot for video and models
@medyk3D
@medyk3D 5 жыл бұрын
This is spectacular!
@tompoletti5676
@tompoletti5676 5 жыл бұрын
Sick! I will have to try this!
@ssnydess6787
@ssnydess6787 3 жыл бұрын
Great work. You can also further improve the quality of your silicone casting by putting the charged mold into your vacuum chamber and evacuating air, which in tun will pull any bubbles out of the silicone.
@DanielJLopes
@DanielJLopes 4 жыл бұрын
Really cool! :) I might try making my own, as I have a really weird pritner: A Mingda MD-6C which has a really not standard design for the print head (as well as linear rails)
@estouch
@estouch 4 жыл бұрын
Dude this is awesome. I’m going to sign up to askillshare so I can learn fusion360. If I can design parts and print them I’m set in my new hobby.
@minor59er
@minor59er 5 жыл бұрын
I have used both silicone socks for my E3D-V6 hot end, and I prefer the sock with the smaller hole in it. I found the sock with the larger hole collected more plastic on it than the smaller hole.
@thinkdifferent99
@thinkdifferent99 4 жыл бұрын
Again a brilliant tip and an extension to this beautiful hobby!
@mick2d2
@mick2d2 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant tutorial, thanks!
@BoruffAdventures
@BoruffAdventures 4 жыл бұрын
If you mix in a small, wide mouthed mason jar and attach a fermentation lid with a hand pump vacuum, you could probably remove the bubbles before you get to the syringe.
@KidCe.
@KidCe. Жыл бұрын
3years back i didnt think id ever come back to this video because i already had a really well working silicone sock that came with the ender3. Now im experimenting with cht volcano nozzle, copper nuts and a more powerfull heater, all on the stock hotend, so i also need a new silicone sock to insulate the nozzle that sticks out soo far from all the extra part cooling air. Very helpful video! Also.. i think i saw every single of your videos but i dont remember if u ever made a fusion360 tutorial? After using f360 for 4 years on and off, i still have no consistent workflow of using components like u did in the video. I would love to see a basic workflow video and how to split up multi part projects into components :)
@iteerrex8166
@iteerrex8166 5 жыл бұрын
Super! Great content with no bs. Thanks Stefan!
@trailblazingfive
@trailblazingfive 5 жыл бұрын
Great video Stefan - thanks!
@fixy98
@fixy98 5 жыл бұрын
I've only used the e3d pro socks, never had problems with the sock moving. Your problem might be the nozzle not reaching far enough from the heat block, you can try to screw the connection screw between the cold side and the heat block more into the heat block. Nice video though, I will definitely try to make a custom heat sock!
@MrOsmodeus
@MrOsmodeus 4 жыл бұрын
I came up with something similar when my sock was getting a bit worn out. i used a top and bottom half with one die in the centre. i printed the bottom half with m5 threads and the top had some indents for the m5 screws to sit flush in. mine largely worked but i wasn't using the right silicone. i was using an old tube of tiling silicone that was just going bad in the cupboard. it worked but it was much too soft. i just squeezed the silicone into the two halves. stuck the die in and tightened the halves down. the excess squeezed out through the weep holes i had in the sides. mine worked but the choice of silicone was wrong. at 3 for $10 though i gave up and just bought the premade socks. my design was free and quicker than the post. but i'm not buying half a kilo of silicone to make 2-3 socks if i needed a new one every print it might be worthwhile. but these things already last forever usually only degrading if you end up with eruptions like the start of the video
@dz1sfb
@dz1sfb 4 жыл бұрын
Nicely done!
@DavidSanx
@DavidSanx 4 жыл бұрын
This is brilliant!
@James-un6kx
@James-un6kx 5 жыл бұрын
Wonderfull idea, I always wondered how they make those silicone socks.
@Lc-wi3wk
@Lc-wi3wk 4 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial. Thanks for sharing
@Magic-Smoke
@Magic-Smoke 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Thanks for sharing!
@bernardtarver
@bernardtarver 5 жыл бұрын
Nicely done.
@McPcholkin
@McPcholkin 5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant job!
@Andrewatnanz
@Andrewatnanz 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, all that work. I have had alot of luck just wrapping some aluminum foil around my hot end. Works great, when it gets dirty I replace it in a matter of seconds.
@andreyansimov5442
@andreyansimov5442 3 ай бұрын
This is content Im here for.
@mleitner0
@mleitner0 5 жыл бұрын
You're the best man. Nice video.
@TheHonestlySneakyGamer
@TheHonestlySneakyGamer 5 жыл бұрын
sweet, i have noticed my genuine v2 E3D hotend silicone sock falling off and not staying up, so definitely need to do one of these myself
@ensoniq2k
@ensoniq2k 4 жыл бұрын
I found the video and all your eplanations very interresting. Alltough I never had any issue with the new E3D silicone sock that I ordered with a Nozzle X. It never came loose or anything. But maybe I will cast something else made of silicone in the future. I still have a tube of Dirko Rot in my basement which will otherwise stay unused.
@thechriskelly12
@thechriskelly12 5 жыл бұрын
@CNC Kitchen nice trick for the changing the fillet size have u considered using user parameters
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