Designing a stock for a hunting shotgun

[@gnarshread]

For most people, myself included, you go to a shop, handle a few guns and guess at what feels comfortable and useful. We don't take into consideration the thought, time and materials that has gone into a stock shape that works well for most people. But the process is extremely important and a beautiful thing to see.

[@mccallan2798]

Seriously bummed that I can only give this video a single thumbs up. It deserves a lot more.

[@danjordon2439]

This guy comes across so well in all of your videos, seems a lovely bloke. And his guns are amazing!! If I had money to spare I know exactly where ide spend it! Would love one of their side by sides 🤤

[@tgsoutdoors]

Jim is just as good a bloke in real life

[@windym709]

I met Jim at the 2021 Game Fair when my mate dropped his own Longthorne into Jim to open the bores out a couple of thou to better suit clay loads, he really is a great bloke and a true gentleman with no airs and graces but just loves to talk guns, I could never afford one but if I could there would not be the slightest hesitation. Great guns made by a truly passionate gunmaker who has put modern method into a classic art form.

[@danjordon2439]

Always good to see the boss of any compamy get his hands dirty too! Seems very involved, can see he's passionate about what he's doing 👌

[@rickbrookes-smith2239]

One of the best features to date ... proper free style brain storming, resulting in a physical finished article. Loved it.

[@crankygunreviews]

Good direction on the stock- definitely has a vintage classic historical look to it.

[@hillbillyscholar8126]

It is a special moment when you cross the line from aficionado to connoisseur and you just did! Thanks for sharing the journey!

[@chadnolte9134]

Bravo Gentlemen! It took some compromises on both of your parts. But this came together as a true work of art. This gun and hopefully future guns made like would be something anyone would be proud to unsheathe at a game shoot. Great video as always.

[@MrCabimero]

The man who made my stock in the US was amazing. He would make adjustments on the belt sander with no measurements. All done by eye. The end product was perfect. It was amazing to watch him work. A true artisan.

[@johnsimpson6500]

Jonny you lucky lucky man !! What an amazing experience….. and what a stunning looking game gun.

[@grahamking2239]

Looking forward to seeing it in the field

[@jimpenney4599]

Assume gun Assume guy . What a privilege to be Involved in the design of a Longthorn game gun . This will be the gun on every game shooters wish list

[@weissrw1]

This your best ever!!! That guy has wit beyond most most human comprehension!!!

[@Sorehole]

Thanks

[@korykoehnen4720]

Beautiful work guys!

[@johnetheriedge8675]

I have been up tight and at ease watching this video & the gun designing. All in all it was a great process. I hope to own a Longthorne shotgun in the future but I want the big, fill your hand designed stock. Thank You for giving this process thru a great video! JE

[@mallardcutter7209]

Love the basset hound in the back !! He needs to make more appearances !

[@longthorneguns845]

Agreed, he is the best!1

[@tgsoutdoors]

He should present the next Clay tour

[@NoWr2Run]

@@tgsoutdoors I raised Basset Hounds & had 4 of my own at one time. The worst part is keeping their ears clean, LOL.

[@manatoa1]

I really enjoy watching the two of you work and banter together

[@darellkettley6622]

Like father and son 🤣🤣 what a bloody great watch 👌👊

[@lodiklaas]

i really really enjoyed this, watching you two bickering in a well behaved manner and created a beautiful game gun. I truly love the design of this gun.

[@tgsoutdoors]

Thankyou 🙏

[@TheSpaniel1]

Classic in the making, great film thank you for sharing

[@shawnareckart8491]

How cool you were able to provide input and feedback for this gun! Congrats 😀

[@parrisgeorge9708]

How freaking cool is Jim with the angle grinder?!

[@John-uo1qf]

An artist for sure

[@tgsoutdoors]

I can see a limited line of ‘grind like Jim’ merch coming together 😂

[@ddoherty5956]

@@tgsoutdoors his wife might have something to say about that 🤣🤣🤣

[@stevewright6333]

Must of watched this 20 time or more, Along with the other #Longthorne videos. Love the process, love to outcome. I'd probably purchase a spoting stock to go with it. I Only wish I could afford one.. 😢 #tweedl 😉 #tgsproofhouse #tgsoutdoors . much love

[@timfinlay2174]

That finished stock looks lovely.

[@vinceheath506]

The best video yet johnny 👍 please more like this mate ,well done #carterlongthorne

[@NickGoldsmith776]

Very enjoyable watch 🤝☺️

[@andrewlong6523]

That is a thing of beauty. Well done.

[@168dac]

These are my favourite videos, keep up the good work guys.

[@Blondejam]

That is one stunning piece of kit. I just love the look of the thing, everything is in balance with everything else, the wood, the action are so well suited to make a stunning piece of art. Well done the guys at Longthorne. If I had the cash I'd be on the phone in the morning!!!

[@Malikpigeons1]

Excellent Video❤ Good Job i like it.

[@granthall2325]

It looks great well done!!!!

[@samuelmacey5813]

I absolutely love watching these type of videos very entertaining 👍🏻

[@porkpie4594]

Everyday is a school day, best day at school ever.

[@mikebrewis9040]

Another beautiful Longthorne - great gun - great video - well done to all.

[@DFox-ud3gx]

Great show I'd say. Alot of heart and passion went into this one. One gem of a bird gun.

[@dave_724]

I would love one of those in 20 bore with 32 inch barrels it would make the perfect game gun and sim day gun !

[@herrmauser1066]

Longthorne riibless and move weight on barrel thickness. 30 inch barrels are perfect for an allround game gun. Open grip "Boss style" stock with tear drops and slim forend. Stock shall have the old slim woodwork. Rolled side on trigger guard. How about double triggers :-) A A Brown makes lovely wood for shotguns.

[@perrypappous1550]

Excellent rapport, process and result. P. Pappous, USA

[@carlwatkins5052]

Well done , stock looks great ,.

[@tgsoutdoors]

Thankyou Carl 😊

[@Mauser304]

Beautiful . . . and function too.

[@patfilice]

Absolutely beautiful gun

[@CatholicDad4kids]

Great viedo on the intracatacies of stock design. At 29:55 it is mentioned that even less pistol grip woudl be ideal to have the arm resting in the right ready position. This ends up with almost a straight grip which they have used for 180 years. I have 25-30 Side bys and OUs and initially did not like the straight grips. After time I realized the ease of shooting one. I also have large hands and grabbing one is like shaking hands. I can shoot for hours with little fatigue. I also wanted to chime in that the shop designed gun was very elegant. Not sure about how rugged that very thin grip would be however. Grain selection for this stock would be hugley important. Thanks for this video and would appreciate your thoughts.

[@grahamking2239]

One of your best!

[@RobGreenside]

Absolutely beautiful game gun- love the stock design too !!!! I am surprised you chose 29" barrels, instead of at least 30". I was hoping you would say what this gun weighted in at when all was completed. Super job- both of you chaps did incredible work !!!!

[@39jennydog]

Absolutely brilliant video to watch of a gun being made.

[@ryanknapp4964]

A lot of classic field books talk about shooting elbow out, that was the style. There’s on on woodcock that Project Upland re-released I was just listening to on audible

[@jsnyder0512]

Crackling vid. Thank you, and congratulations on a awesome gun.

[@loganrobinett8805]

Brilliant video found it very interesting on the entire process of this and how it all comes together

[@goory93]

That first timber was amazingly gorgeous. And the production version once all the engraving and finish was done upped the ante even further. Nice work boys.

[@arthur703]

A great creative prozess

[@davidcaul7836]

Brilliant gentlemen

[@danp6755]

Love it. Although my bucket list is getting longer now 😍

[@muskett4108]

I thought you guys would whittle the stock down until there wasn't anything left! There is a certain elegance in a slim sporting gun. With that comes the liveliness, dare I say twitchiness, that such guns have. Why shooting is often best as a sport than just mechanical; proves you are alive. If it looks good then often it is. Gunmaking is a skill.

[@mikeproctor3664]

Now that's a gun I could get excited about

[@macgyver5108]

Many if not MOST "gun owners" vs somewhat serious shooters don't realize how much a long gun's comfort and FITMENT to the "individual" user (like a well tailored suit!) is paramount to how often you'll hit the target. This looks the dog's golden bollocks in that regard...👍

[@johnh8197]

WOW !!! This is the things that dreams are made of. How awesome would it be to put your opinions, preferences and likes into the making of a nearly perfect field gun. I would love to have an opportunity like that.

[@petes.4073]

What a couple of nice blokes.Takes a London gunmaker(stocker) a seven year apprenticeship to get to this level🙃

[@robinloos1441]

I wish we have Guns like That in belgium.

[@markbainbridge2859]

Very enjoyable video ! 👍🏻

[@JamesJones-cx5pk]

That was rad!

[@tgsoutdoors]

Thankyou!

[@julianclarke7178]

Total beauty 👏👏👏

[@gazzatdisco]

This is the 1st o/u I actually like the look of

[@BikeGunCarGav]

If it was case colour hardened it would look even more the part… beautiful 😍

[@tgsoutdoors]

A case hardened action with appropriately elegant engraving is in the works

[@BikeGunCarGav]

Best get saving then!

[@dgoodman1484]

Old British SxS’s have the worst ergonomic stocks I’ve ever had, and more than make up for it by being pure style! That was a huge improvement. Well done! 👍🏼

[@viktorekholm745]

What a nice gun by longthorne, but does anyone know what make and model that roundbody side by side shown at 2:08 is?

[@tgsoutdoors]

An Upland Gun Company

[@janlesinski4719]

Love the interaction but the gunmaker knows best, nice final stock

[@andycarless9069]

Bloody Nice Gun 👍👍😊😊

[@funkla65]

Yeah, I think I'd put away the rasp (and the power tools) before I add wine to the mix. ;-) Funny, but if you go digging through photos of high grade Winchester & Marlin lever rifles, you're going to run into examples of grips similar to that. And with a lever, you've something which aesthetically wants to be a straight grip, but as you want to afford your gun hand a bit more control, you start heading in this direction. And it still checks the Aesthetics box. Nice job!

[@jasenleith4714]

Loved the video great contributions from you both, but can't help thinking it was like Triggers broom.... ''Changed the handle 3 times and the head 5 times !!!''

[@paulmullin522]

Great video, we need a full series with you two. Also, any update on the Longthorne Hi-Power?

[@tgsoutdoors]

There is a sweet film coming on that also

[@dtaylor9673]

Longthorne are doing the business.

[@jpdorsethq1280]

A master of his craft in every sense.Always liked the Woodward Style Grip following handling a Purdey Woodward SXS owned by a local blue blood many years ago.Will there be a Longthorne Carter in the pipeline 😈

[@andrewwood2294]

Beautiful gun

[@the45er]

That looks very similar to the stock I have on my Perazzi MX8 sporting clays gun. I’m one who doesn’t think a clays gun has to have a big buttstock with a palm swell deep pistol grip.

[@matthewshayle618]

Blast. I was hoping you would speak for the Big Lads Union, Johnboy, and persuade the world that the perfect ‘off the shelf’ game gun should come with a 16.5” length of pull and an extra bit of comb height - and maybe with a little bit of left hand cast in it. Still, lovely piece of work, this.

[@matthewdeepblue]

Look at the Uberti Courtney stalking rifle; it's the grip you want. It's what I want, look at the swoop. Oh BTW, I enjoyed this

[@lukedog7028]

Nice looking gun.

[@jeanmorin3247]

Seeing you cut with a saw into this beautiful stock wood looks like sculpting a face with a cleaver... But, how terribly fun to watch. Thank you!

[@cpk3050]

A tremendously interesting watch. Very nice indeed. FFF

[@johnnunn8688]

If you want a light gun, how about an experiment with Ti barrels and a carbon skeleton stock and fore end?

[@tgsoutdoors]

With experimental 1/2oz loads

[@simonpage8430]

Gorgeous

[@cbro553]

I’d actually love one of these in 20ga for the US

[@jbss7382]

@TGS Outdoors, Oh my god Johnny! That gun is just gorgeous. The banter was hilarious! Thank you for the teaching of grip manufacture. Wonderful. I so wish I was shooting, a licence holder and be able to afford to shoot By the way whose is the Bassett? Wonderful colours on him or her. Jonathan

[@tgsoutdoors]

That is my dog Tanky

[@charliegriffin3491]

Your Longthorne guns are incredibly gorgeous. With the exception of those full pistol grips. Gosh that is a monstrosity to look at. Never held one so i can't speak to how it feels. But good lord that is an eyesore.

[@charliegriffin3491]

Additionally having your gun made in front of you must be a bucket list moment. Cheers Jonny. love your stuff.

[@gewoneou4719]

Wonderful! What choke size are the fixed barrels?

[@davidgendron1953]

What a fantastic video!! To me that is what an o/u should look like!! I would have thinned out the forehand I little more in its thickness… but that is just me lol! I love the open grip… I have a few rifles with these open grip and they look great and handle great!! Thanks for taking the time to make this video!! What would be the starting price on something like that?

[@skeetman22]

Though this style of stock is not my cup of tea…i prefer a real tight pistol grip….I really enjoyed watching this process ….good job guys

[@markbateman703]

The perfect gun for Ant.

[@glenns7139]

Yet again another entertaining and informative video jonny. Would love to afford a Longthorne one day. Keep it up matey. Have an idea of a product and would love to discuss with you for your opinion sometime. Its still in the planning stage but i believe would be a good idea. Obviously not the best place to discuss. Cheers Glenn

[@tgsoutdoors]

Glenn drop me an email to [e-mail] 😊

[@jeremybolen6037]

I need one!

[@joshpointoh]

Sometimes I forget just how different British and American culture can be. This was so British

[@rjacobherman]

I hope one day Jim tells me I can have whatever I want? 🤣

[@awg123ok]

Great job however I feel you overlooked the option of a Beavertail forend, slightly controversial but I believe more aesthetically pleasing?

[@TheHolten]

After all the mentions in holts and other reviews, how come you didn’t get a long trigger guard?

[@gab4012]

pardon my ignorance but is there a reason the forearm is not as well fitted wood/to metal as the stock?

[@stevemartin641]

Great content as always. Gotta say I was disappointed in gunmakers row at the game fair 2022. There was simply no evidence of gunmaking just gun selling. Some craft content such as this would definitely elevate the fair above simply being another retail opportunity. Particularly as English gun making is clearly alive and well.

[@panzerabwerkanone]

"All guns should have a full pistol grip." Me looking lovingly at a wall full of ARs, AKs and SLR/FALs in the states.

[@berndl.5214]

A great gun

[@Trumplican]

13:55 you say that like youre surprised lol

[@antsfur]

Lovely gun but where is the the metal cap at the end of the grip gone?

[@tgsoutdoors]

It’s an optional extra