The Biggest Tanking Misconceptions in FFXIV

[@Wyrsa]

Misconception 2 is almost entirely from WoW. After playing for 15yrs I can say that sometime during Cataclysm x-pac saying the words "first time here" as a tank got you kicked, or everyone leaving. Eventually it spread to the point that everyone needed to know exactly what to do with everything (even trash) or get chewed out for being a "shit casual loser".

[@celphalonred1999]

Yea, the community for WoW has always been fucking trash, nowadays there's not much of a community left tho lel

[@Rasterizing]

Ahhh good old WoW toxicity >.< I left WoW last summer for FF and haven't looked back, I really love it here! I actually read that some people are complaining about queue times now taking upwards of 1.5 hours for DPS, simply because there aren't enough tanks and healers - due to the playerbase shrinking and also nobody wanting to do those roles due to the toxic nature of the community.

[@austins.2495]

@@Rasterizing honestly all of you wow players just bring the trash wow mentalities over to ff so… thanks?

[@TheFrantic5]

"Hi, haven't tanked before." Machinist proceeds to wall to wall pull.

[@starofaetherius]

Machinist tank is like discount Gunbreaker lol

[@DarkDyllon]

i don't see an problem with this (minus the MCH pulling) best way to learn is to do, it's even better to learn it early on since earlier dungeons are so easy to heal that you can easily make mistakes and be completely fine concidering 1 heal basically heals you for 50-75% of your HP. this would set them up for later content (and if they're story skippers for their 1st playthrough on an tank ... then, yeah ... got no nice words for that person, they should be forced to do earlier dungeons before entering later dungeons even with an story skip)

[@TheFrantic5]

@@DarkDyllon except the healer was new as well and panicked, and I took way too much damage trying to corral the mobs (didn't use mitigation as well) The healer was certainly not healing for half. Perhaps if the tank and healer don't have their job stones, maybe don't immediately wall to wall pull for them, or actually take half a minute to explain what you're doing? It's a simple ask.

[@AlastorXIV]

The best tanks min-max their mits alongside their dps. Remember guys, the better your tank healing and mitigations are the less gcds your healers need to spend on healing and can contribute towards damage instead!

[@pedromoreira6218]

unless you get a healing bot in dungeons wich happens more often than not :P

[@aarongeorge4885]

Facts!

[@aarongeorge4885]

@@pedromoreira6218 also facts. That’s why I rarely go into dungeons on anything outside of Warrior.

[@austins.2495]

Is this a tip for parents so they can get a little insight into the game or something? This isn’t even a tip, it’s common sense.

[@aarongeorge4885]

@@austins.2495 it is common sense but a lot of players can’t be bothered or refuse to do it in normal content. This results in all tanks being the squishiest role in the game.

[@zourin8804]

Tanking as a role is a straightforward as other roles. If you can do Sastasha, you can do Twinning. The flow is always the same. pick up trash mobs, kill trash mobs, take on boss, repeat. New mechanics are usually quite survivable, and if you let your party know you're new to the dungeon, they'll fill you in if there's something you missed without much fuss (and the need for that is often very rare). Raids and trials are often a completely different kettle of fish. 95% of the difficulty in a raid/trial isn't role specific, it's from being new to the often lethal mechanics in general. In these cases, you usually aren't the only tank in play, so ultimately, role shouldn't hold you back from showing up as a tank (you may have a higher chance of NOT dying, in fact)

[@pixiesnakes4293]

"no excuses for bad damage anymore" PLD: the green guy can dps i'm a healer now

[@starofaetherius]

The way i explain tanking when someone calls it boring in game, where i have less time to expound on details as you have here, is "Yeah, tanks dps rotation is simpler, but we are managing 2 rotations (damage and mitigation), we set the pace of the dungeon, we decide where the boss stands, and it feels cool to be face to face with the big threat thatd squash your samurai."

[@cynicalmanatee]

agreed. The way i look at it, It is my job to ensure you, the DPS, have consistent up time and damage. If I am expected to do the same damage as you do, then why would i need DPS in my raid? In normal trials, tanks are a snooze fest as you can eat every mech and still make it out of the other side. Once in extreme, I have to start guiding the boss around and do some tank specific mechanics In savage, I have to also guide the boss so that the DPS can do their mechanics as well as damage uptime. I have to be pretty precise on my positioning In ultimate, I blink for two seconds, and the whole party wipes because of a boss mech All in all, I would say tanks have the biggest ramp up in skill expectation than any other role as you move through the content difficulty in this game.

[@SoulReaperIsHere]

I disagree that you set the pace of the dungeon (unless you're WAR). Your healer has to be able to keep up with the dmg output of big pulls. If your healer is bad you are unlikely to force a big pull. Conversely, a good healer can carry an otherwise mediocore or even poor team through big pulls. Especially WHM with their misery.

[@zanido9073]

But it is most certainly more boring. With the removal of stance dancing tanks became way too simple. And you're not managing 2 rotations, mitigation abilities are like 4-5 buttons and you use them whenever you need them, there's no rotation involved except in ultimate.

[@starofaetherius]

@@SoulReaperIsHere it requires both the tank and healer to move that pace, and PLD can survive just as well as WAR and more than makes up for poor healers. Less constant passive healing, but i have plenty of healing effects and magic.

[@mbentley6]

I've leveled two tanks to 80 (haven't played since before Endwalker) and any advice I can give would be to just type in chat that you're new to the content. Also ask if big pulls are okay, you might have a new healer or a healer that hasn't played in a long time.... UNLESS you have a black mage and a samurai or two black mages or two samurais as the dps, then all bets are off and go full bore. the enemies will die before you know it. Happened to me and it was my top ten experiences in this game

[@DarkDyllon]

in endwalker, most jobs can melt trash mobs now. especially Reaper, he'll do an ability to do more damage on all the mobs and just shreds through their HP like an hot knife through butter. SAM aswel, not sure about black mages since the majority i get don't do that much damage. i main RDM and mobs aren't dying nearly as fast as when i did SAM.

[@sufficientphrase7769]

I leveled all DPS and heals to 90 before doing the tanks. Knowing the fights/tells ahead of time helped my tanxiety so much

[@JaybeeAU]

1:25 - 1:41 I almost spat out my drink in laughter 😄

[@TuroMM]

Does anyone know what's the Paladin gear set he has equipped at @3:28? Thanks in advance

[@dawson3776]

As a beginniner tank I can tell you this, people are patient enough to tell you the mechanics even with a language barier in this game. So don't be shy, don't get too intimidated. Just know what you should do as a class and learn overtime.

[@TokyoTigger]

I just tanked my very first (low level- Toto Rok) dungeon last night after doing monk main for a long time and lvl 90 content sage for a fair bit. I was so scared to tank! Hubby came as heals so that helped reassure me, and I let our 2 pug dps know it was my first time tanking and they were so kind and patient and it was the best "first time" experience I could have asked for. Gave me the encouragement I needed to feel confident progressing from here! I've definitely run into a small handful of jerks over the years, but really the vast majority of players are lovely and I love that about FFXIV culture.

[@bocatt9202]

Biggest misconception about tanking: you have to pull wall to wall. No. No you don't. If you are new, or even if you're a veteran who feels uncomfortable with certain pulls, just take it slow. Making 2-3 pulls per "wall" is still faster than pulling everything once, wiping and having to pull again.

[@Moraalridder123]

Doesn't matter if you feel uncomfortable, it's the healer that has to keep you alive. And tanking is making a balance between a big pull and staying alive. You can at least try it, saves you and your team alot of time.

[@Pravaification]

As a relatively new tank, I agree with this. Most groups, especially in lower level dungeons, are okay with slower pulls.

[@DN-qd4dp]

Starting with HW, dungeons are designed with 2-3 packs between each walls so you are pulling w2w anyway. Your advice still stands for some ARR dungeons that are not designed this way. If you pull one pack at a time, the healer is effectively useless.

[@CiCiCrown9886]

@@Moraalridder123 Partially true. DPS need to be able to burn the groups down ASAP. Tanks needs to mitigate correctly and Healers need to be on the top of their game. Some w2w pulls in later content hit fairly hard. Basically, everyone has a role to play in w2w and if fails, it can be easy to identify what the issue is. (I.e., a tank pulling after a SGE uses their entire kit on a 3 group pull and refused to use their mitigates thus causing a wipe of the next group.) And there is a certain discomfort when it comes to Tanking. Especially when you are new to the role. W2W is never a standard either and it is a misconception to an extent. The tank should pull what they are comfy with and set the pace. If you don't like it, no one is stopping you from hitting the Leave Duty button. It's better to clear the content than repeatedly wipe.

[@zanido9073]

With how easy dungeons are now you should never not be pulling wall to wall. And if you don't know how to survive a wall to wall then there's only one way to learn. Pulling single packs is a waste of everybody's time.

[@zeromatsuri]

Misconception 2 is not a misconception lol around 2 year ago i was tanking a trial for the story (so yeah first time) ended up messing up and got absolutelly DESTROYED by the others 7 players, i mean, i had to close the game because they just couldn't stop trashing me since that day i swore i would never EVER again be a tank in any dungeons, raids or trials.

[@celphalonred1999]

Well thats a first lmao, that just doesn't happen at all on ff14. That's odd.

[@zeromatsuri]

@@celphalonred1999 Ho it does happen don't worry lol

[@TheMandanga]

**hugs you**

[@thesteinberg]

what is that sword and shield from the intro bit?

[@philiplynx6991]

Regarding point #2 while it isn't likely to work for the most recent content since people are still learning it I've found that watching a guide video before each new dungeon/raid/trial is a huge help no matter the job but *especially* as a tank as it allows you to have at least some idea of what to do or not do during a run, reducing the stress of being in the conflicting positions of leading the party yet having no idea of what to do.

[@DarkDyllon]

most of these things are taught through experience. if you reach lvl 51+ content, you should know most tells, especially now with the praetorium, castrum rework, where each fight SPECIFICALLY teached an mechanic. where the tank gets an tank marker a lot of the time, or stack markers appear, knockback markers, being mindful of the arena (Gaius for example summons clones on the outside) yet there are tanks in shadowbringers/endwalker content that somehow don't know what an stack marker is, or what cooldowns are. had to heal an tank doing w2w pulls with no cooldowns in the tower of zot dungeon (81 dungeon i believe) as an sage, it went ok for the most part till the final mob pack, they hit hard and the tank wasn't using ANY cooldowns ... an warrior on top of that. the tank then asked why i wasn't healing enough where i bursted out "how about you use 1 of your defensive CDs? you know you can basically solo these dungeons right? pop for example raw intuition and tada, 1 aoe and you're full" we wiped like 4 or 5 times to that pack before finally kicking that tank and getting a new 1 that properly popped his CDs. (that last pull is brutal even with proper CD management, but literally only that pull)

[@philiplynx6991]

@@DarkDyllon Basic stuff like the various markers and use of cooldowns are things you can pick up via experience sure, I was more talking about dungeon/trial specific stuff where you either learn the hard way(which can inconvenience your party if you're the only one who doesn't know the mechanics and they have to raise you and explain it on the spot) or have someone do that first and learn from their experience via guide videos. I recently decided to solo farm for the firebird so I'll use Sophia extreme as an example. -If you don't know that at the phase change you need to book it first to the far right, then far left of the platform, you're going over the edge. -If you don't know that one of the heads she can summon has a powerful knockback and you need to position accordingly, you're probably going over the edge. -If you don't know that as soon as a blue meteor starts dropping you need to run to the side opposite, you're going over the edge. That is the sort of stuff I suggest watching guide vids for, if people need vids for basic stuff like markers and cooldowns they're either very new to the game/role or *really* haven't been paying attention.

[@Poldovico]

@@philiplynx6991 That's extremes and up though. Unless you're specifically joining a blind prog group (which is a ton of fun if you can find one), people expect to go in with a strategy in higher difficulties. The usual "tanxiety" stories are from basic content which is absolutely designed to be yolo'd.

[@TokyoTigger]

@@philiplynx6991 I agree- no matter my job, if I'm going into a new-to-me dungeon or raid (70+, although as dps and heals I'm way into endgame content now) for the first or second time, I like to watch a guide so I have a heads up about any new mechanics (or unique use of mechanics) that might kill me if I don't know them and do the wrong thing. Things like stackup markers, soak towers, tank busters etc are pretty obvious, but often they combine in different ways or the timing is specific, or if you miss one of them it doesn't hurt you right away but will wipe you on an upcoming mechanic (like the soak towers in I think P10). Standing on the gravity well lines on Althyk in Euphrosyne is one example of something I wouldn't have known until getting caught in that attack a couple of times unless I watched the guide. After gaining more experience there's a lot more content I could probably jump into as dps or heals and figure out after 2 or 3 attempts but it seems silly not to learn from others when they offer their own experience as a guide. I only just started tanking this past week and all my tanks are still lowbies, but you better bet I'll be rewatching guides as I get to higher level content even if I've done them many times just to inform myself of tank-specific considerations. I feel that's even more important for being a considerate player when it's not new game content because the majority of other players queuing up are not going to be first-timers and probably know the fight decently well.

[@Akinon93]

Recently started tanking savage (as a GNB no less), and I've learned it's much more difficult to do as tank than DPS (imo anyways), but in a different way. DPS has more intricate rotations, buffs, resources, etc to manage, but tanks have more mechanics to manage in a given fight. From my experience anyways, I deal with all the same mechanics a DPS will, but also have tank-centric mechanics (purgation/grace for example). Not to mention things like boss positioning, CD usage, and more. A good or bad DPS doesn't affect the tank, but if you have a bad tank who's unreliable with say boss positioning, suddenly DPS have to modify their own positioning/rotation even. Think Pinax for example, if a tank can't get boss to the wall reliably, your melee can straight up not be able to DPS boss if you get lightning charge first. And also, in order to move him you literally have to run out of melee range to do it. Ranged attacks help but can still stop your rotation entirely, whereas a DPS can follow the boss as he moves and keep uptime. That's all to say, DPS and Tanks each have their own difficulties, some more than others, but overall I feel tanking and dealing with the nuances of tanking while also keeping as optimal DPS as you can, can be a bit more difficult. But also just my opinion. Though I think healing's the hardest personally 😅

[@zeerodown1887]

….or you can be a giga chad and run through the boss, hit one last gcd before running out of melee range, go to the wall (the gcd timer is rolling), gap closer back to him, keep your rotation with full uptime while your position has been snapshotted. (P4s, Phase 1 - Pinax) It’s a bit tight and sometimes if you moved a 0.5 secs too early or to late the boss will stop moving right in the middle but so far it worked fine with PLD and WAR. GNB and DRK have their Burst so it can be tedious if it happens you have to move the boss.

[@starofaetherius]

Healings the hardest for sure because you have to deal with the consequences of both bad tanks and bad dps more than any other role. You have to spend more time healing their dumb asses, and will sometimes get blamed by the party if someone dies because the DPS stands in AoE or the tank isnt using Mits. The worst possible scenario is if they are up their own ass about boss dps because they will get mad at you for spending more time saving their ass than killing the boss. Luckily like 90% of the playerbase is not this way.

[@Akinon93]

@@starofaetherius not to mention, if I mess up my rotation as tank or DPS, my dmg is just a little lower. On healer if I mess up and somethings on CD when I need it, the group may just wipe

[@EternaltheGrey]

Exactly. Tanks make sure the boss is positioned in a way that the mechanics don't party wipe while still making it easier for damage and survivability. But as long as you don't have that Superbolide A TEST OF YOUR REFLEXES macro, it's mostly all good. Players learn slowly and steadily.

[@Akinon93]

@@EternaltheGrey it's funny you mention that macro...I won't use it in raid (because I don't want to waste time wiping on BS) but I joke about doing so in discord 😂

[@akito6572]

I used to be a tank main when Shadowbringers came out. And at this point I haven't played for quite a few months (maybe even years). So now I really don't know if I should play a tank again, because I remember a lot of groups at "higher" level (50+) dungeons (and we're talking about MSQ dungeons here) are quite toxic when you die - yes, even in FF XIV. Everyone's nice until you mess up. But there will be dungeons and bosses that I don't remember (or simply don't know as I haven't started Endwalker yet). So chances are I'll eventually cause a party wipe. So I wouldn't call the 2nd Misconception a "Misconception", because you do have to lead your party & make sure that no one dies. As much as I'd love to tank again, I honestly don't know if I would give it another shot anytime soon.

[@adamarz9248]

Ur honestly giving the dungeons waaaay too much credit. There are like 2 or 3 dungeons in the entire game that I think would give new and seasoned people something to fight for but other than that you seriously shouldnt have any problems. If youre very nervous about messing up, I hope u have a leveled up WAR as its easily the easiest to keep alive. Either way, all tanks are great and its very easy. (coming from a tank main that thinks dungeons are way too easy and boring) Toxicity wise, its very rare in dungeons imo, people usually dont care. The worst and most common are inept people, not new people but actually people who purposely make the dungeon harder(healer bots, no aoe dps).

[@dassnood1574]

Literally stop letting other peoples opinions/words preventing you from doing anything, toughen up and deal with it.

[@zen_7748]

DPS are red DPS, tanks are blue DPS, and healers are green DPS. Doesn't matter what colour my role is, if I'm not trying to inflict maximum violence, I'm being unhappy.

[@teloenand]

To quote JoCat... EVERYBODY IS A DPS!

[@demetriuswilliams4271]

Love tanks it’s all I play in ffxiv. I find it fun compared to any dps class

[@PigeonPrime]

what is that cutscene at the beginning, it’s so badass

[@noblewolf8232]

3:29 anybody knows what's the name of that armor? The design is awesome.

[@theoperator3712]

That's the set from the last tier in Shadowbringers.

[@legionairesunny5507]

Its the Edenmorn armor, granted from the last tier of the Eden raids.

[@DKHZStudio]

my biggest problem with tank isnt only in FF though, even in modern Wow the dungeon must be clear in the fastet way possible and w2w i really dont like it, i would love to tank in my own page and not what it in the meta.Well the second problem isnt really a problem but more like didnt want to make the Group wipe because i (as tank or DD) make a mistake

[@Pravaification]

I started tanking a few months ago and from what I've experienced, the FF community does not have the same "Go Go Go" mentality as WoW players (I tanked in WoW ONCE, never again...). If you let the group know you are new to tanking, 99% of people will be patient and understanding :)

[@DKHZStudio]

@@Pravaification yeah I know that but I think is more of a "PTSD" from wow

[@Alexiety.]

I decided to go with a tank on my first playthrough and every new dungeon I tell people it's my first time, then proceed to pull wall to wall just for the fun of it. Most of the time it works out just fine. Although, I'm just at the end of HW, so I'm not sure how it goes later on.

[@zedorian6547]

@@DKHZStudio Possibly, but they need to leave that ptsd in WoW because now that same mentality is slipping into FFXIV. Thankfully ESO is also pretty decent when it comes to new tanks.....just so long as you don't try to queue in as a Tank and you run a 2-handed sword as your primary weapon.

[@triumphoverdeath]

People used to complain tanking was too hard having to manage enmity combo and damage combo....Now they are too easy and boring they say hahahaha

[@EvilGruntProductions]

Definitely love this video would like to see something similar for healer. Had a tank yesterday that didn’t like to use defensive spells, does anyone have any advice on what to do?

[@saintkupo]

Let them die. Or tell them they need to use them if they are doing big pulls.

[@Tailionis]

Let him die?

[@DesperiusFFXIV]

I made the exact same Video about healers 😊

[@EvilGruntProductions]

@@DesperiusFFXIV awesome I’ll go check it out 😊

[@Isaac31415]

@ghostlyghost212 Blacklist both the dps and tank

[@michaelgerlach7137]

Also; on a more serious note; I would like your opinion on something; Intuition...So I have a Lala PLD, I was OT P2S it was the tether one tank who runs with it, the other tank stays and shields the grp mechanic. now, normally it's I stay my co tank runs, I'm the only lala in the grp so im visually unique mechanic is happening, I just so happened to be that 2 pixel inside of the other tank, soon as i realize it, I just shrug and run because its already coming up on half the cast bar. I see no reason that a tank shouldnt trust their instincts on things like that and "adjust" yet the party read me the riot act afterwards because the other tank had the "whatdoido whatdoido", moment and ran me down because he thought a dps had the tether (mind you like i said im the only lala and the rest of the crew are either miqote or aura with one roegadyn, so its not like its hard to tell I have it) and we have intuitively swapped before...Was I in the wrong?

[@Tython82]

Blu Mage tanking is awesome

[@77wolfblade]

We need a magic casting tank!

[@richardwicker8456]

3:12 I agree that this is a misconception; tanks are not black mages

[@raventhorX]

Not gunna ask what addon that was in the clip with titania as I wouldn't want you to get in trouble but it appears to actually display the hp values. Are the hp values in that accurate?

[@somaszucs9337]

Do you use gshade if yes what is your preset?

[@bloodlustforce33]

Unrelated to the video itself, but what are those cutscenes your character is going through on PLD? Those aren't story quests as far as I know

[@croxeye]

The Endwalker benchmark

[@bloodlustforce33]

@@croxeye Ohhhhhhhhhhh. Thanks

[@vincentbeton]

Huh, I never thought of the fact that most (if not all) Mitigation Skills being ogcd so by not using them properly the Tank is ultimately hurting the Healers DPS, not affecting his own in the process. Almost ashamed it took me so long to think of that

[@DarkDyllon]

and it's not encouraged by SE either. most don't even know they got defensives till they finally run into 1 healer that finally tells them to fucking do their job. (an big problem with the whole "be positive at all times" mentality. we shouldn't condone easily correctable mistakes, we should correct them, but since the FF14 community is so sensitive you'll get lines like "you don't pay my sub!" or "stop being so toxic!" or "he's a new tank!" (in lvl 60-90 content, get this quite a bit) i'm actively trying to not talk anymore since i know it'll get me banned sooner or later.

[@vincentbeton]

@@DarkDyllon Not encouraged by the Game is too true. I recently did the Hall of the Novice again and boy are most concepts there outdated and never used in actual practice, not only never mentioning proper cd usage. The Duty Support doesn't help either, with small Pulls not even needing them in the first place. In the end most people eventually learn via Guides, KZbin Channels of just playing but I'D love to see SE revamp those Introductions rather sooner than later. I mean hey, EW Dungeons are literally built so that Wall to Wall is easy almost all the time, so why not introduce it to New Players?

[@DarkDyllon]

@@vincentbeton for sure, i remember when i was doing an 1-50 MSQ speedrun that i did the hall of novice for tanks since that was optimal and i laughed at the final mission. where adds appear and the game legit tells you to ignore them and let the DPS handle them. i just hope that in the near future, SE will finally revamp them, make them accurate, hell for story skippers make them mandatory to be completed. put all the basic tank things in there, like stack, tank and knockback markers. let tanks deal in that tutorial with lethal tank buster damage without CDs, so that the newer tanks feel that they need to use an CD instead of surviving it with 20% HP because the healer popped everything. they aim so much at the casual player that they completely overlook the essentials.

[@AndrewHadi07]

What glamour is that sword and shield??

[@legionairesunny5507]

Edenmorn fending armor from the last part of the Eden raid series. E9N and up.

[@michaelgerlach7137]

ok i know that opening video is the "stress test" for endwalker....but what shield are you using? I've actually yet to see that (and im a disabled "house spouse" who tends to no life the game)

[@theoperator3712]

It's from E12S.

[@michaelgerlach7137]

@@theoperator3712 Ty kindly

[@Fojenstein3D]

I am here....now.

[@TheNervousAnna]

So too am...I

[@adamm1117]

What are those elephants? When will I come across them? I'm in stormblood rn

[@EternaltheGrey]

They're a tribe of Matanga (which you may have run across in Stormblood by now), and are called the Arkasodara. You'll be introduced to them specifically in Endwalker.

[@adamm1117]

@@EternaltheGrey thank you :)

[@SephirothsBIade]

"tanks cannot be anywhere near as powerful in any other game as in final fantasy" Somebody clearly never saw Lineage 2 Pheonix Knight. thing was damn near immortal and hit harder than the strongest DPS

[@DarkDyllon]

the 2nd misconception is right and wrong. you don't need to know each boss, sure that's true. but you NEED to know each tell for a mechanic (for example stack marker, tank marker, knockback etc) also the w2w pulls is nowadays just an standard 2 mob pack pull, also seeing you do an glaring mistake with that wall 2 wall pull in the twinning, you just stand in the middle while AOE'n, you didn't group them so people who need to target an enemy to still easily all mobs. also yes, i'm leveling Sage and early dungeons it's either an hell or an absolute breeze, not even based on the tank most of the time. Sage doesn't have an insta AOE heal at lower levels, and then the DPS go and stand with the tank while taking tons of damage from cleaving mobs. (really, circle AOE's is a bad thing, good for tanks in most cases, but fuck do they suck for DPS/healers) the 3rd misconception is something that drives me mad from both tanks and healers. when a tank only spams 1-2-3, barely any OGCDs, sometimes an defensive CD and that's it, no extra effort. from healers who only do heals but no damage and then go "but i'm healing!" ... so? your party is mostly at 60-90% HP, you can easily keep doing damage. I don't know, a lot of these mis conceptions except the 1st 1 being "tanking is boring" (which i get, let's be real here, tanking isn't that complicated anymore, raid fights are designed around 1 main tank and an off tank, where the off tank only takes agro for an short time before switching back) where the off tank barely has anything to do anymore, compared to stormblood where the OT's job was to keep the MT's emnity in check, since back then EVERYONE had to check their emnity generation, with every dps job having an emnity reduction skill and lucid dreaming reducing emnity by 50%, where the OT's job was to make sure he would get a lot of emnity along the MT and then pass it on to the MT, was a fun thing to do, know when the boss might do an cheeky cast, quickly provoke+shirk in that cast bar.

[@deadline6149]

Well it doesn t help that ppl playing tank don' t even bother to time their sh*t. I remember Titan times, i tried to time my mitigations with the other tank but just got ignored lol.

[@KevinG9012]

Why does it seem like a lot of your videos get downvote bombed? Am I missing something? Your content seems solid.

[@Isaac31415]

You can see the downvotes? I honestly cant see them. But anyways, sometimes people just seem to bitch ramdomly with some youtubers , just like what happened to mizzteq

[@77wolfblade]

@@Isaac31415 there's an addon you can use that will bring back the dislikes.

[@suparicky8889]

Idk if im the only 1 but I liked stance dancing in arr and hw but I wasn't raiding at the time jus doing ex but it was interesting to me

[@zedorian6547]

The stance dancing thing was a problem because if you wanted to do anything higher than normal you would find a lot of groups that more or less forced you to tank in the "dps" stance just to squeeze out that tiny bit more damage, even though you as a tank might not be able to keep the Black Mage from completely ripping away your enmity and then the whole party gets pissy with you for not holding that enmity and not once taking into account that you as the tank are only i205 while that Black Mage is i225 with pentameld but thats also your fault for not raiding as much as the Black Mage and bursting through the content at breakneck speed like they did while also not having a friend or paying some random crafter whatever they charge. Yes, it was interesting, but it allowed for a hell of a lot of bullying. It also didn't help that Dark Knight was the only tank that really didn't get affected by the damage penalty that your tank stance would give. People will claim WAR was the same but that only applied if you were able to play WAR to that level, and also leveled up all the other classes needed to get the cross-class skills........regardless of my long post however, I would like to see some type of content where you would get access to that type of system again, especially since a lot of the clunk from that era is no longer a part of the game.

[@Kzar5678]

Best parts of being a tank Fast queue times only barely slower than healer Tank privilege. Oh theres a meteor marker? I can just sort of, not do that and keep uptime (assuming ofc youre not MT and need to bring the boss to where the group is, Rhalgr is a good example of this where his position is fixed and everyone has to run away) Bad parts of being a tank Oblation Before I played 14 I played WoW for a little bit (nothing serious, only got to level 40 on my mage and like 30 on my paladin) but as a tank I was expected to lead the party and know the path. WoW dungeons are not linear, I had to google dungeon guides to know what path I'm supposed to take and THANK GOD thats not a thing in 14. At most some tanks do the side rooms in haukkes or stone vigil and those detours are only like 20 seconds tops as opposed to being lost in this giant ass maze of a cave with no idea where to go

[@hasseo195]

I dont like it very much, to play the tank role. Simply, because, i feel, that it doesnt fit me. I have allways the feeling, that i am tanking to slow (even, when it is nearly the same in comparing to others). Or, that i am going to much for savity. And, i dont like it to stand in the focus.^^

[@SilverSkyway]

*sweats nervously as someone who trying to level and learn a tank* Great video though.

[@zourin8804]

It's fine. There are almost no curveballs with the tanking role as you push through the dungeons. Any twists you may come across tend to be obvious, and your healer is there to bail you out of any that aren't. Trials and raids, at least the early versions of them, likewise aren't terribly complicated, but you may want to read up on them. Those curveball mechanics can become dangerous to anyone regardless of role. In most of those cases, you won't be the only tank, so as a first timer, you get to sit back and take back-up duty.

[@post-mastersodium3136]

Recently started tanking. Although the role isn't hard, per se, remembering what you're supposed to do and where to go in the ARR dungeons is the toughest part, lol

[@post-mastersodium3136]

@Mark it's more the ones like haukke manor, where it isn't so obvious, and there's optional rooms and such

[@Okay_mate]

@@post-mastersodium3136 You'll get the hang of it.

[@Rashadmcka]

I started tanking recently and even dungeons I’ve run many times I sometimes blank on what to specifically do simply because I’m setting speed, and dealing with boss mechanics in a way I haven’t before lool

[@post-mastersodium3136]

@@Rashadmcka lol, glad to know it's not just me :-P. I know we'll pick it up just fine, but it's funny to see the difference in how I handle a dungeon in an unfamiliar role

[@cloudri]

awesome 👌 video is great 👍

[@DesperiusFFXIV]

Thank you ❤️

[@noname76787]

where are the heals :pepega: :clap:

[@conathlnzo8126]

Witcher 3 ost and FF14 in one vid is good stuff in my opinion.

[@whispa1978]

I was recently running Milikah Wells while leveling my GNB to 90. My PLD, WAR, and DRK are already there. My team consisted of a SCH, and 2 BLM. First pull, no problem. 2nd pull....took for ever. And I could not get past the sound of Physic being spammed on me. It was so bad that I had to say something to the healer. Of course he did not like my criticism, and stated ".... you're not dying, are you?" Yeah, I had to quit. I was not going to spend 45 minutes on a leveling dungeon.

[@x3AnimeFanXD]

I agree with everything, though preparing yourself before each new dungeon/raid is surely useful :3 Watching a guide beforehand never hurts. And besides, it is ok when you experience moments like wiping 6 times at Eyes of the Creator. It can happen. It will not devalue you as a tank. Though I wouldn't recommend people with anxiety and low self esteem to start with tanking. It can get quite personal to the point that it can give you severe tank anxiety.

[@DesperiusFFXIV]

Yeah, preparation is important. I just meant for the usual Dungeon or Duty Finder content, Extreme, Savage or Ultimate should be prepared of course

[@Drademdar]

I've social anxiety and started FFXIV as Gladiator/Paladin. The only reason I did dear to try was because of the friendly community of this game. And tanking is still my primary role, although I sometimes play other jobs because my anxiety is too high. But this will obviously vary from person to person.

[@danryder3865]

You do need to know the boss before you tank or you can end up wiping the party . The tank job is not to be taken lightly dps the boss dps is the easiest class to learn mechs, then tank, if you are a healer by nature do the same dps will show what they have to deal with and then tanks this way you can heal accordingly but I also advise tanks to do heal jobs every once in a while this way you can get a feel for what each healer is capable of, and you can pull accordingly.

[@compy5432]

im just too scared to play tank

[@DesperiusFFXIV]

Don't be ! It's not as hard as people make it !

[@soldierorsomething]

Got it, so as a TANK, stack SKILL SPEED MELDS so you will deal the most damage and also heal faster since you can use the abilities more often

[@deltaoalice9281]

Pls no

[@TheAuron32]

pretty sure its D.Hit unless warrior...

[@Retigator]

Remember tanks. Always treat your healers like they are one bad dungeon away from uninstalling.

[@unsrainy]

o ye ye