Velma: How Did Shows Get This Bad?

[@mikeg5039]

This show is just a way for mindy to be racist and sexist without getting banned on twitter.

[@hessZL1]

bold of you to think she would get banned on twitter for hating white guys

[@G.A.C_Preserve]

Aren't that obvious enough

[@alexgomez6723]

Apparently, it didn’t even work. Her ideological kin now believe she is some covert right wing sabotager trying to undermine POC, women, gays, and the overall “Cause” with a bad show. Imagine failing THAT hard at commentary you single handily pissed off all sides of the political spectrum and united sworn opponents on a common cause, trivial it may be. Kind of impressive honestly.

[@therealdeal3866]

Getting banned onTwitter for being racist and sexist only happens to white heteronormal men. A dark skinned woman being racist and sexist on Twitter is what we call “Twitter”.

[@givmi_more_w9251]

Mindy Kailing has also openly admitted to kissing Lee Pace 'spontaneously' during filming of a scene in which they sit in bed together, when she was not supposed to, and the audience actually laughed. Apparently, that was before it was known that Pace was gay, but either way, it's icky and predatory. If a man did that, he'd be burnt at the stake. So yeah, your observation checks out. She knows she 'can do no wrong'.

[@Shorty_Hutch]

Imagine if they humiliated Daphne because she had tiny breasts. The double standards and outright bigotry is disgusting in this 'show'

[@grindelston5968]

But I like smaller boobs

[@YouWillBeHappyOrElse]

Imagine if they displayed nude images of teenaged characters and openly said they did it to boost their ratings. Oh wait, they did.

[@pryncebusta]

Tiny breast not really an insult

[@luceatlux7087]

Oh there would be massive demand to take it down if that was the case. What's ever stranger to consider is that it even goes further if you want to compare more-directly equal... Imagine if they said something about a vagina that females had some potential sensitive issue with... "AHAHAHA LOOK AT HER DRYNESS!" (I know it's weird af. I just couldn't come up w something else that I'd be comfy even typing.) *k i got one.."ahahaha look how loose and flappy her gaping vag is! you can hear her queefing as she walks!"

[@Match25]

Mindy: Whiteness has nothing to do with Velma's character Velma: (Constantly complains about white people)

[@vardamir0397]

yeah, there's also the fact...if the skin color has nothing to do with the character...why bother changing it? She said she identified with the character well, right? Why change something you already identify with...I don't get it.

[@jojox5136]

Just waiting for the pendulum to swing back at them

[@Casual_guy1234]

Velma should go back to her Spanish style, not this

[@Colonel_RamRod]

@@vardamir0397just ticking boxes for black rock esg points, people are finally seeing through this filth for what it is at least

[@bertmathricks2024]

@@jojox5136 Consider how much they've swung that pendulum to their side I can hardly imagine how glorious it will be.

[@Tangent_Studios]

The pitch for white panther unironically sounds like one of the best TV show ideas I've ever heard

[@williamma2147]

Yup. Should be pitched as a comedy. It would sell very well.

[@harbl99]

_Black Panther_ meets _Shallow Hal_ ? Fund it!

[@vinniehatcher664]

You could spin it as something like the Australian Rick and Morty show

[@itusjr69]

The villian should be a black chick named suga momma and the reason she's making all the women fat, is because she's flat chested, ugly looking and has self esteem issues, so that once all women are fat and ugly, she'll look the best in comparison to the others.

[@Heartshapedbox81]

Pretty sure they were too busy exposing them, making her bi, Asian and ignoring the existence of her father.

[@kevinskinner4986]

If they made the finale the real Scooby gang arresting their imposters, and it turns out this entire thing was the work of Scrappy trying to ruin thier reputations for kicking him out of the gang again, it'd be the best finale in the history of animation.

[@emilycrewe3794]

Honestly, this is the only way the show could be salvaged at this point. It wouldn’t make the rest of it not bad, but it would justify the show’s existence. I would absolutely applaud the commitment and audacity of that sort of meta joke. Heck, that sort of payoff might actually make the rest of it worth watching in hindsight.

[@eightiesman]

Only, that ending would be a ripoff of the 1st Scooby Doo live action movie.

[@Drixenol86]

I have my own idea. Velma is revealed to be an imposter and a murderer. She and her colleagues murdered the real Mystery Inc and took on their identities. The events in the series are all in her head. The finale They’re all arrested for the murder of Velma, Daphne Fred and Shaggy. As they’re taken by police, Scooby watches from afar. He says”You’ve been avenged, My friends…”

[@lorenzotanzi9851]

You probably have better writing skills and ideas than the whole team of writers who ~Were made accomplices of~ helped Mindy Kaling in the creation of this abomination

[@kevinskinner4986]

@Lorenzo Tanzi yes because i.can write a mystery. I knew it was of Fred's parents because they were the only people with a motive. I also caught the plot holes that should have eliminated them as suspects.

[@zahylon5993]

the treatment of Fred is just infuriating. He always was a pretty innocent character like the rest of the Mystery Gang. This is beyond character assassination, this is defiling the grave. Every member of the gang was assassinated, but none with such malice as the one done on Fred. The only reason they got away with this is because both Joe Ruby and Ken Spear passed away in 2020... At least they didn't had to endure seeing their most beloved creation be defiled by vultures like this.

[@HerculesBallsInc]

Fun fact: the voice of Fred's father in this show is being done by Fred's original voice actor.

[@ivyg6178]

@@HerculesBallsInc That's not fun, that adds to the insult.

[@nobodyimportant7686]

@@ivyg6178 Its depressing

[@nobodyimportant7686]

@@ivyg6178 Its depressing

[@chazzitz-wh4ly]

The attack on Fred is nothing short of malicious and intentionally mean spirited. Mindy Kaling turned Fred into her personal beating bag avatar representing everything she feels.

[@thejandjchannel5016]

The reviews have been way more entertaining than the show itself. I have been addicted to the pile on this show admittedly

[@2Pavo]

I thought I was the only one lol.

[@thejandjchannel5016]

@@2Pavo oh no

[@DespotofAntrim]

The show demanded that KZbin critics descend upon like ravenous vultures, and we obliged.

[@SRMoore1178]

Same as with "Rings of Power" and "She Hulk". I have not and will not watch any of them but I can't get enough of these YT reviews.

[@HerculesBallsInc]

It's like watching a burning car on the side of the road.

[@senseweaver01]

That whole story about a man having to resign due to overwhelming political pressures within his workplace no longer allowing him to have his own opinion was just... hauntingly accurate...

[@zarach9459]

I have been listening to these kinds of stories in the world of comics for some time, the best example is the son of Superman and Tim Drake, they are bisexual and their stories are full of homoherotism, which is not liked by those who buy comics, but it is driven by the company executives.

[@lostinadifferentworld2752]

Source: Trust me bro

[@daveroche6522]

Try the civil service - any [and I DO mean ANY] indication(s) of actual brain activity lead to lots (and lots) of those 'interviews-with-no-coffee'.....

[@Joe_334]

I sure hate the double speak. That is the poison. Get told to speak up, and the moment you do, you get demonized for pointing out their BS. The show is shit, and I hate the unwanted pandering...

[@mrl2814]

​@lostinadifferentworld2752 Full in facts though. Happens in every single industry. In DOE in the east coast, they force you to listen to an putsider lecturing why whites are bad and you have to write an essay about the lecture or you're fired.

[@thefanwithoutaface8105]

3:52 Ironically the comics had a character like that, White Wolf only he wasn't Bucky but a guy named Hunter whose family were killed while on a trip in Africa and Hunter was rescued by T'Chaka and adopted into the Royal Family, though faced HEAVY Discrimination due to being the only white guy in Wakanda but he didn't care, ended up becoming crazy Loyal to Wakanda and proud to be a part of it. You can kind of see why they never bothered bringing this guy into the MCU.

[@dylancross1039]

Because he would have killed Killmonger on the spot... lol

[@declanjones8888]

@@dylancross1039 It would go against the "all white people are evil" narrative.

[@silverbloodborne9495]

@@dylancross1039 yeah Aint white wolf in charge of a wakanda spec ops unit so yeah white wolf would of taken out the threat before it happened

[@Xxgxxaxx]

Because it actually sounds awesome?

[@mattmccormick8749]

Because. Strong, straight, white male character bad. Bigot. 😎

[@evanthompson1517]

If Hollywood wants to subvert my expectations it would tell a decent story with good characters. I honestly would not see that coming...

[@strawberrylotlizard]

5 months later snd still nothin

[@GamiGreen]

Another 5 months and still nothing@@strawberrylotlizard

[@phillipstephens4522]

That is EXACTLY why I personally have changed the name "Hollywood" to "Hollyweird!"

[@dRoscoAZ]

26:14 Thank you for pointing this out. I'm a VO actor, and it's driving me nuts that the voice world has now been overtaken by woke politics. I get SO MANY auditions that say "Lookikg for African American voice". Barely ever see other races being sought out. It shouldn't ever matter what race we are. You can't f*cking see us. I'm tired of it. Yet the hypocrisy reigns, because you can sure as sh*t have other races play white characters, but never the other way around. And I shouldn't care, I'm Latino. But it pisses me off with all this Anti-Whiteism running rampant lately. Great video, seriously the best I've seen by far on this absolute garbage heap. You sir, are becoming one of my favorite creators on YT! Keep up the excellent work. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@DespotofAntrim]

Thanks man I appreciate it. It's a real shame what has happened to voice acting because I know a lot of people are passionate about it and dream of getting into it, and their opportunities have been taken away from them by a gaggle of fanatics.

[@KevinKess]

@d Rosco It's good to see that there are more voice actors speaking out against what's become of their industry. Keep doing it. We need more people in the VO industry like you who aren't afraid to point out the problems within their field and present solutions on how it can improve.

[@crfstewarje]

@d Rosco, Legitimate question; are you one of those people who say, "Well, I don't see color"? Because that's being color blind. Also, why are you, a Latino, getting mad at auditions that says they are looking for black voices? The fact that you say "When barely other races are sought out", makes you come off as you saying that you're upset that black people are stealing the spotlight.

[@rastafahrer]

@@crfstewarje No. The world we used to live in did not care which (wrongly described*) color the skin of anybody had. Never ever would the r*ce be the criteria for a job! That is absolutly crazy. Your capability was the criteria. Because the goal used to be doing a good job. Because we did not judge people based on their skin. That is the point of the OP. And now, only for writing this - the humane perspective- shall I emphasize that I am mixed? To have the r*ce card for being allowed to state my opinion? I really, really wished this totalitarian nondiverse thinking would stop and people would stop bowing down to this cruel, r*cist, lazy, inhumane ideology. * it is neither white, not black, brown is also not accurate. And why is red and yellow offensive? Who even came up with this? Where I live, nobody was described like this until recently, thanks to the wonderful "globalistic" N W O

[@GarrettLoganGriffin]

I wanna get into voice acting so badly, but have absolutely no clue where to start.

[@lapinal3067]

Daphne sexually harassing fred and getting angry that he doesn't cosent represent well the writer of the show. She has admitted that he forced her coworker to kiss her and threatened to fire them if they reported it.

[@ВладимирКруглов-к9о]

Disgusting but somewhat expected. These people are so enabled and protected they have no shame and even don't feel the need to hide, behaving just like the predators they're supposed to condemn. They even seem to flaunt it. Total moral bankruptcy and degeneration.

[@Yourfat247]

@@ВладимирКруглов-к9о‘they’re supposed to be against’* they only condemn innocent people for being white and a man

[@iro6758]

I had a buddy with a car that broke down in so many ways simultaneously, that we couldn't figure out what happened. I guessed broken motor mounts, he felt the transmission slipping etc... We took it to one of those free estimate/diagnosis places, and they listed both of those things, 9? others - and under the part their form that said "Test drive results:" They'd written, "Too dangerous." Mindy is the psychological equivalent of that car.

[@starkiller23610]

lol

[@matthewhollis250]

When I was a kid, as I'm sure many of you can remember as well, sleeping on Christmas Eve was very difficult. The atmosphere of the holiday season, the joy and anticipation of having presents to open in the morning, perhaps even the possibility of sighting Santa outside the bedroom window, all made it essentially impossible to get to sleep before the early hours. On one of these occasions, I managed to get to sleep without much trouble. However, I woke up at around 4:30am and, to my frustration, just could not get back to sleep no matter what I did. So I turned on the TV in my room to pass the time. I watched several episodes of the old, true Scooby Doo. I can't even remember which episodes they were, although if I had them played in front of me I would almost certainly remember them. But my memories of laying there, comfortable and content in my bed, entertained for the moment and assured that, in a few hours, I would be able to get up and open my presents, are very treasured to me. I will always remember Scooby Doo for that. No amount of current year degenerate leftist drainspawn shite will ever get rid of those memories. Stay strong boys

[@zarach9459]

I am from Venezuela, they broadcast the Scooby Doo series without interruption since I can remember (I am 52 years old) until the beginning of this century, I don't know if they continued because I abandoned open television, many times they broadcast the series at 7:00 p.m. , prime time, when they released Dynomutt they did it at that time and then an episode of Scooby Doo, it was the best. Watching this series was like going back to my childhood and looking at the corpse of my dog ​​covered in maggots and surrounded by blue flies and breathing the putrid air trying to look away from that horror but unable to.

[@robynmarler1951]

Thankyou for sharing the Christmas story, I might be an idiot but I found it heartwarming.🎆

[@KamikazeCommie501]

what kind of shitty parents let their kid have a tv in their room?

[@sayLeotardbutsayitChinese]

I feel you man. I will never forget being in the theater for LotR Return of the King, seeing that final charge of the Rohirrim -- the way the camera swoops down into the scene while the horns and shouts bellow over the thundering of a thousand charging hooves. It made you feel like you were there with them, facing down the orcs in a glorious last stand. It still gives me chills just thinking about it. Rings of Power is trash. It will never affect my memories. It's not in the same class, it's not even in the same grade. It's in kindergarten, shitting its special-needs diaper on the floor. Why should its shit stain the glory of those films?

[@goofygoober779]

Shows are not made for people anymore, they are made for ideologies.

[@fralanasko2900]

Whose ideology was this made for? Its not popular for people who care about representation etc... either.

[@goofygoober779]

@@fralanasko2900 Mindi Kaling's ideology or whatever you can call this putrid pile of brain vomit she calls "comedy".

[@WelloBello]

Not even, nobody I know likes this, left right or center. This show exists for Twitter clout. It is made deliberately to be inflammatory to create drama and get big on Twitter.

[@eliseosterbrink8000]

@@fralanasko2900 But it is. I don't know what the other two replies said, but the crowd that cares about representation is definitely a large part of the ideology-driven bunch that this was made for. They're the same ones that wanted Ms. Marvel to be made so that it could tell the story of some incredibly niche minority girl whose situation wasn't even interesting or well-crafted. They're the same ones who wanted the politically/ideologically driven weird casting of The Rings of Power that didn't fit into Tolkien's world. You can't make the case that people who care about representation don't fall into that same camp. They are all ideologically motivated and this is what their ideology leads to.

[@firegoatdx6869]

@@fralanasko2900 It’s made for an ideology that they think exists but doesn’t

[@Zara-Bari]

I feel like they kind of wound up with a reverse of the intended effect with Fred. From all the reviews I've seen Velma, Daphne and that other guy live comparatively free and semi-normal lives, with parents who may not be ideal but are at least somewhat parental some of the time; parents which allow them to crash around being horrible people unimpeded. Fred is more a victim than the actual victims in the show (in part because we actually get to see things that happen to him). His parents have controlled and manipulated him to the point he's barely even a person, he endures false accusations and humiliations and punishments he didn't do anything to earn and has no capacity to understand. When he tries to change or even just think for himself, his father cracks down on him (not to mention Velma's outright rejection of his attempts to please her). His mother even blames him for the results of her terrible parenting and tries to murder him. And... we're... we're not supposed to sympathize with this character? He's supposed to be the bad guy? Why did they structure a character that's so helplessly abused, and whose expressed attitudes are clearly not his own, and who is also still a child, and expect us to laugh when he gets stung by trash bees? Or, worse, when he is totally exposed to a bunch of adults who proceed to laugh at him? It's like watching someone repeatedly kick a puppy for peeing on the carpet after they left it locked in the house for three days. Yeah, the carpet's dirty now and that came from the puppy, but it didn't really have a choice at that point and now we're supposed to laugh at it being kicked for it? It's bizarre, and in some ways the most sickening aspect of the show to me.

[@thefanwithoutaface8105]

Worst part is an updated slightly darker Scooby Doo could easily work. Granted they did this with Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated but maybe if they took a page out of the 90s films where the Monsters are Real, the Gang is a bit older and more mature, that could've been fun to explore, maybe even have references to some of the old movies, give some depth to the characters that make them more likeable.

[@C.N.D._The_72nd]

Or they could have adapted scooby doo: Apocalypse

[@ryanlesner0000ninja]

Who was removing the brain's from high school girls? What did the murder do with the brains? Why target high school girls?

[@thefanwithoutaface8105]

@@C.N.D._The_72nd Nah, that's borderline edgelord dark.

[@msmaria5039]

There was the Supernatural crossover. It was dark but still have the Scooby gang being true to themselves. And with Dean hitting on Daphne. And Velma kissing Sam.

[@thefanwithoutaface8105]

@@msmaria5039 I was thinking more like a slight spin on the Gang from Zombie Island and Witches Ghost. Where they are more mature and older, but still have the traits that made them likeable.

[@bleedingberryjuice]

Disney lost 123 BILLION dollars last year and Turner lost so much they had to write off the Batwoman movie for tax purposes and they culled their catalogues on streaming services. Keep holding the line.

[@DespotofAntrim]

We'll win eventually. Evil cannot self sustain.

[@juanjosefreijedo774]

I said it once and i say it now: race swap is not anti racist, it is racist. i comes from the perspective that non white people havent done anything interesting irl nor in fiction so we must give them a white role so it looks like they did something interesting. It overlooks black history (the real no the woman king), their struggle, the things that they did, their achivements and also their mitology and literature. It is a spit in the face of black culture while thinking they will be thankful (not english native, sorry for mistakes)

[@DespotofAntrim]

You are correct, and more people are seeing this race swap filth for what it is.

[@crfstewarje]

@juan, depends on the race swap. There's a difference between if Black Panther were race swapped, vs. Ariel being race swapped.

[@juanjosefreijedo774]

@@crfstewarje I dont get it. How is it different?

[@crfstewarje]

​@@juanjosefreijedo774 What do you mean? Directors hiring someone of a different skin color, because they feel like the person will be best for the role and *not* because of their skin color, is not racist. An example would be Michael B Jordan from Fantastic 4 2015, who stated that he felt that directors thought he would be best for the role, not for his skin color, but because of his acting.

[@BananLord]

@@crfstewarje they, rn, are refusing to hire actors of color to play villains. The guy who was a villain in Venom (he's indian as well) loves playing villains and publicly complained about how racist the casting is for refusing his audition for a villain. If a character exists as white since its creation, it should remain as it is. The only reason Miles Morales is fine is bcs he's his own original character, not a literally race swapped Spider-man.

[@ReasonablySkeptic]

It's always funny to me when I see an actor play a role and then see them in real life and they are the exact same person they were "acting" as. Of course if that's who you are you're not acting. And worse yet when that "actor" is also a "writer" in the show so proving that they can't act or write it can only pretend to be themselves. So it turns out the insufferable unpleasant girl from The office wasn't an actress or a writer she was just being herself all along.

[@ВладимирКруглов-к9о]

You nailed it! Perhaps that's the exact reason she was so believable in The Office - but only as a character. To suffer the likes of her in real life is something you'd only wish on your worst enemy. Hopefully even she is not pleased with her personality. Really off-putting.

[@thefanwithoutaface8105]

Well we allowed a bunch of petty and vindictive Twitter addicts to start writing every show and movie and decided that listening to an extremely small minority of people with probably 100 different social media accounts when it came to what's important in media.

[@sayLeotardbutsayitChinese]

We didn't allow it, but it still happened somehow. I've talked with friends about this; our consensus is that the film world now is going through what the art world did in the 20's. Rich out of touch idiots surrounded by yes men have somehow become the arbiters of "what is good" even though they have absolutely no taste. Because they're stupid, they easily get trolled by, for instance, an autographed urinal presented upside-down. They're such morons that the "avant garde" nature of the thing has become more important than the thing itself. That is, the intention outweighs the product in their mind -- that's why modern and postmodern art always has to have a placard explaining what the artist meant or felt, as if that makes the art any better. It does not. What they don't realize is that film is a medium for the people -- rich fucks won't prop it up on their own, only the approval of the masses will. Ironically, these wanna-be commies can't grasp that fact, and have to keep shoving their false morals and intentions into everything in an attempt to change others into clapping seals that think their show is good, rather than actually putting in the work to make their shows good. Which, now that I think about it, might actually be more communistic than the alternative. Sorry for the essay, lol

[@leverage1990]

With the exception of Shaggy, literally everyone, no matter if they're main, side or background characters, always have an unfriendly or downright malevolent expression on their face. That's actually the biggest problem despite everything else, watching even short clips makes me feel like I'm in a room where everyone hates my guts.

[@michaeliv284]

That's because they made "Shaggy" a wimp that couldn't stand up to you

[@michaeliv284]

@AngieW-ri6qx I was talking about "Norville"

[@MarioMonte13]

​@AngieW-ri6qx the one and only thing that's consistent with previous shows

[@arostwocents]

Another reflection of the true reality of woke. All the wokies I worked with were like that in real life. So bitter, twisted and just mean that no matter how much money they earned or cats they owned, they were still completely miserable, and blamed men for rejecting them rather than realising it was all their own doing.

[@hrossaman]

That bar scene you wrote and performed was friggin perfect....you did what they try to do better than them

[@DespotofAntrim]

Thanks!

[@senseweaver01]

I think it's odd that the execs think it's okay to alter the race or sexuality of pre-existing characters to suit their political needs, but also think it's fine to insist on casting voice actors with attributes that reflect those changes. It's strange...

[@DespotofAntrim]

Doublethink. Orwell prophesied all of this.

[@senseweaver01]

@@DespotofAntrim Don't you hate it when he's right about stuff?

[@ВладимирКруглов-к9о]

Cultural theft and subversion.

[@thefanwithoutaface8105]

Also I didn't think it was possible for a show to come out to anger me more than She-Hulk but DAMN they actually did it.

[@darrengordon-hill]

All your fault. As in, the way in which you are faulty.

[@Lonovavir]

Woke series/films now: You thought the last one was bad, you haven't seen anything yet, hold my sake.

[@ryanlesner0000ninja]

Who was removing the brain's from high school girls? What did the murder do with the brains? Why target high school girls?

[@EatWave]

At least She-Hulk was the result of incompetence. Velma is clearly intended to annoy as many people as possible and is expertly crafted to do exactly that.

[@johnwolf2829]

The obvious questions is; why even watch? Other than to keep up with anti-human propaganda, I mean.

[@switchnx]

After watching a lot of these reviews, I realized something. The reason the characters aren’t anything like they normally are is because these aren’t the same characters. Given all the comparisons to Mindy’s previous works, it seems everything from the plot to the characters’ races were already decided, and it wasn’t until very late that someone suggested putting the Scooby Doo franchise on top of it because it’s a mystery, and an established IP will get more viewers. Heck, it was probably someone from HBO, considering how they’re not doing well financially. This is further evidenced by the fact that Scooby and Shaggy aren’t in the show, not because they couldn’t have been written in, but because HBO was too cheap to complete the introcompany transactions to get the rights to use them.

[@DespotofAntrim]

I certainly appears that way but no, I found out in the course of my research that HBO decided to reboot Scooby Doo, since they own the IP, and of all the directions they could have gone in, they decided a Mindy Kaling self insert show obsessed with sex and race was the way to go.

[@IronDragon-2143]

It's like as soon as the creators reach rock bottom they find a way to dig even deeper

[@GladDestronger]

It's like they keep finding new levels of shit to fall in.

[@bliczb8772]

It's like they blew a hole in the basement, revealing a bottomless well.

[@Azzgore]

Every time we think we are thrown down to the rock-bottom something knocks from below.

[@limaecho6107]

There is no bottom. That's what everyone needs to realize.

[@AxenfonKlatismrek]

You know, there's always a bigger fish

[@magical_pixie_horse7346]

This show is morbidly fascinating. It says more about the demented minds who created it than they intended. In that way, this show is a work of art. And what i find hilarious is the mental gymnastics these writers did to explain their POV on so many thing's, as well as the opinions they have that, no matter how hard a normal person tries to think about it, cannot be explained or understood. This show is amazing in every way the creators never intended.

[@ВладимирКруглов-к9о]

Yes! We need a good psychotherapist to analyze it all thoroughly. There's so much stuff to work with I'm envious I'm not in that field!

[@mbp7060]

I'm on board with White Panther. I bet Scooby Doo would tap in for that show.

[@darklord884]

I love how there are some cartoons that still try to play the "Oooooh, look at us, we're so edgy and hardcore!" card in the same universe Ren and Stimpy exists. I mean unless you turn it into a full on murder hentai, you're not going to overtake that.

[@justforever96]

So once one show achieves an ultimate in one particular genre, every other show should just pack it up and say "well boys, we can't beat that, I guess we have no choice but to make ours campy and wholesome"? The problem with that is that your going to have an ultimate in every category. There is already a show that is the most campy and cheesy. Can't two that. One that's already the funniest. Can't do that. One that's already the most thrilling, can't do that. Who said it was a competition? South Park was also after Ren and Stimpy, as I recall, or at least it existed afterwards. That's edgy. Should they just give it up because they can't compete with that? You can have different levels of edginess for different audiences. That's just kind of silly logic.

[@darklord884]

@@justforever96 I'm sorry, are you trying to argue that it's GOOD that Velma is trying this painfully hard to be the edgiest unfunny stuff ever or are you just so contrarian you had to try and "prove me wrong" as it were? Because I didn't bring up Ren and Stimpy as a POSITIVE example mate. I brought it as a negative one. It's not that Ren and Stimpy did it better and so no other show should even try. That would indeed be silly. I was making a point that it seems nobody is learning from the MISTAKES that the creators of Ren and Stimpy made and so there are still projects like this that bank everything on edge and being ridiculously offensive, without realising it just doesn't work without something extra. South Park is completely unrelated, but you brought it up, so let's look at it: Sure, it's edgy and offensive, but it has so much else going for it. It's actually funny, it doesn't go just for straight edge without purpose, the offensive humour actually has a point to it and, unlike the other two series we mentioned, it actually explores its topics through the humour and makes you think about stuff. Not in every episode, granted, but most of the time. This is what I meant. That edge and offensiveness for the mere sake of it all is idiotic and the fact so many shows like Velma still try to bank on this, even after numerous examples of failed projects that already tried this very same idea, is completely idiotic.

[@Exaltar]

This should reach 200 million views. Best velma review I've seen so far and I've watched way too many. You're absolutely brilliant.

[@limaecho6107]

You should check out the most recent Galadriel one- it's a masterpiece.

[@DespotofAntrim]

Thanks for watching!

[@saintdave4943]

Been following a lot of Velma’s criticism. Despot kills this show with facts and logic. Masterpiece!

[@jackall-trades6149]

"So, White Panther-" Wow, I've never seen a board room empty that fast. You can even see that the execs sh*t themselves violently upon rushing to the exit...

[@monchomoncho]

MIndy Kaling doesn't care about your childhood coz hers was filled with trauma, which reflects in her writing. Instead of seeing a therapist she dumps her garbage onto this show. If you watch any of her shows, she loves making herself the star attraction, Vermin is no exception. Mystery and camaraderie are always prevalent in Scooby-Doo. There is no "I" in team, unless your self-involved Mindy. Some might argue, their gonna come together eventually, right? By then it would be too little, to late. The damage is done, there's just no going back. Scooby-Doo taught us about friendship, but this show just makes us think of MURDER!

[@DespotofAntrim]

I don't know nor care about the Kaling wench's childhood but this is an interesting comment.

[@ExtremeWreck]

I doubt she had much trauma. She just looked like her childhood was good.

[@ericb5328]

I can't tell if this is effortless or not, but your prose is masterful. Like, you're not just saying the show is woke trash like a dozen other commentators. The level of eloquence is astounding

[@thehonorablereverendaddiso1943]

It is woke trash. Stop complaining about the T R U T H, you insufferable CVNT.

[@teodom_]

Cringe

[@voluntaryismistheanswer]

I will never watch the trash, might watch eloquent reviews lol

[@brok56]

@@teodom_ Care To explain why is it cringe?

[@teodom_]

@@brok56 do u really wanna know?

[@LucifurYapps]

White panther sugar daddy's revenge seems way better than a lot of the other shows we've been getting

[@imtired1509]

Okay here’s a little rewrite of the show that would PROBABLY be like at least a LITTLE MORE. Sort of following the same plot. Velma show: a show about Velma’s daughter trying to find her missing mom aka Velma. Yes she is still Indian but only half. Her dad is Indian. Velma’s daughter finds the present she was supposed to receive. Inside it’s her old diary with the mystery gang and her mysteries solved. Another thing is that scooby has puppies. To continue the tradition of the mystery solving gang, she tries to convince shaggys son (half black, doesn’t smoke weed because he noticed his parents aren’t the brightest) to start the gang with him. (They grew up as childhood bestfriends) Daphne and Fred’s kids (who are twins because I’m pretty sure they were dating in the og series) are still total jerks but Velma with the help of shaggy convinces them both to join the gang. Obviously scratch daphne being Asian because that wouldn’t make any sense at all. And yeah it’s rewritten slightly better??? Also on another note, it’s still meant for adult with darker themes, but kids could still watch it. It doesn’t need to have so much jokes bashing on white people or Fred’s small dick. I think this would’ve been a MILLIONNNN times better.

[@msmaria5039]

Yes, please.

[@thebrazillianguytm2186]

You know what? I'm not against a scooby show just for the adults, but damn, your ideia sounds *much much* more cooler than this show I don't know how much time you put into this nutshell of rewrite, but I can safely say that it's the double of the time they putted into all episodes combined

[@imtired1509]

@@thebrazillianguytm2186 HAHA it took me five minutes lol

[@sarahdanielle12]

if i was one of the executives for the company i’d give it a shot. this seems more interesting and gives a nod to the originals instead of bashing and has reasons lol

[@DespotofAntrim]

I think this would work great as a Stranger Things knock off (nothing wrong with that, its a popular show and popular shows always have their imitators). This show could have been at least something if talent had been involved.

[@timothyconnelley6099]

I believe meta humor can be hilarious if it has a point and adds to the plot. It should also only be used very sparingly. It's like putting hot sauce in your food. Too much of it, and you'll ruin the dish, but if you put the right amount in, it gives it a bit of a good kick. That being said, some food shouldn't have hot sauce in it.

[@StCreed]

Deadpool has great meta humor.

[@boobah5643]

@@StCreed As implied by the post you're replying to, it's why I can only enjoy Deadpool in small amounts .

[@BrennanCh06]

For years the production companies behind all of this stuff have been screening for in group moral agreement rather than actual understanding of the mechanics of writing and talent

[@SammEater]

Metahumor pretty much killed Deadpool for me, when everyone is Deadpool no one is Deadpool.

[@royalace2271]

Another reason why I watch Anime in subs only is because they find the best voice actor that would fit that role. Here in Hollywood, by having the voice actor matching the skin color, gender, and sexual orientation of the character severely handicaps and puts a limitation on them. That's why majority of content by Hollywood has been degrading in quality. Rather than hiring people based on merit, talent, and best suited for the task, they decided to hire based on diversity. In any line of work, when hiring someone based on their skin color, gender and sexual orientation rather than someone who earned the right and best suited for that task, things never ends well. Imagine needing to have an open heart surgery and your surgeon is someone who got into medical school and was hired based purely on their gender, skin color, and orientation... People who are in their right minds would want a surgeon who's hard work, talent and dedication got them accepted into medical school, graduating at the top of their class and worked their way into becoming one of the best heart surgeon in the country.

[@ArgentWolf95]

I don't think we need to ask 'how'. I think we need to ask 'why' it got this bad, and you only touched on the surface. you mate, have a talent for making these awful things entertaining a video subject, and i'm really demoralized at how bad entertainment has been burned. It's like they looked at the TV tropes website and decided to pick some tropes to subvert with no thought of what the cartoon is supposed to be about. I guess i'm from the last generation (grew up in the 90's) that had good culture.

[@DespotofAntrim]

Noel Gallagher said it best: "The 90s was the last great decade."

[@ArgentWolf95]

@@DespotofAntrim yep, I hope we get another "90's" to prove me wrong, but the 2020's don't look like it.

[@heinoustentacles5719]

if you want to know 'how' look up New Discourses and James Lindsay.

[@nicholaslaport3354]

You've gotten me hooked about three or four videos ago, right when you transitioned to longer form, but now I'm experiencing a serious lack of Despotism in my life. Either way, more power to you.....if you keep putting them out I'll keep watching. 😱

[@Krueger_ai]

“White Panther: Sugar Daddy’s Revenge” would make an excellent comedy

[@ladysnowblood]

Times like this I'm glad I'm 42. My childhood and the 80s/90s were fkn awesome and we didn't have to deal w this crap. Excellent video, new sub!

[@ainaqui6095]

We were lucky😂 waiting for Michael Jackson’s latest MV, watching Indiana Jones and the temple of Doom and be traumatized 😂 I miss those times!

[@ImmaLittlePip]

There's a reason why anime and manga and even Kdramas are beating western entertainment . Gen Z and some Millennials rather watch a show with an entertaining story first rather than being turned into some mindless political soldier

[@Sun.Shine-]

Feeling a little jealous. But still going back to the no internet era? 🙄

[@OcarinaSapphr-]

@@Sun.Shine- Oh, the horror of having to entertain ourselves, & interact with others... I joke - the internet *does* have a lot of good things going for it, that I prefer to concentrate on; for a person who loves history & writing, & whose hobbies include embroidery, I would miss a lot of KZbinrs- especially in the crafting & history communities - there's something about seeing how people take on projects you would never consider/ afford, & watching their glorious insanity- while you work on your own little challenges that's one of the few bright spots we have left, in this the year of our discontent, 2023...

[@Sun.Shine-]

@@OcarinaSapphr- yeah same, i was born in the 90s so i have some fair share of no net era. By internet now, i mean only the best parts of it, mostly "KNOWLEDGE" ✌️

[@ryuuronin9852]

I haven't watched Velma, because Ive already seen all I need to everywhere else. But that one clip with Fred's dad made me very sad, because I recognize that voice anywhere: Frank Welker, the man who has voiced Fred since....the beginning actually! I don't claim to know his thoughts about this, but it is just so sad to even hear him in close proximity to such an assassination of a character he's brought life to for so long.

[@zeroattentiongaming820]

While I agree about meta humor for the most part, I don't see She-Hulk as doing it because that's the modern thing. From what I know of the character, she's like Deadpool in that breaking the 4th wall is a regular thing in her books, to the point she has actually skipped to a later page of a comic to get around the plot because that's easier than dealing with the nonsense the plot was. She Hulk's meta humor wasn't them trying to do the modern thing, it was them trying to capture the tone of the source material and failing in the process because MCU Jen is extremely unlikable, making every moment she directly addressed the audience fall completely flat.

[@aden5122]

I think that was the reason they chose her not the reason they did it if you get what I mean. They wanted a modern meta 4th wall comic movement hero as the main leader push. They found her in a comic and went perfect. I mean they even mentioned that they were not aware the difficulty and money required and she hulk was to animate in a TV show. They came up with idea first.

[@JoakimOtamaa]

Also, they don't even know the source material unlike Ryan Reynolds and other DP movie writers.

[@biotrekker]

I love how you can seamlessly slot in the two stoners from "Fast Times..." as writers/show runners and it fits like a glove.

[@justforever96]

Except I doubt what they came up with would be anything like this bitter and nasty.

[@janmoy4670]

Remember everyone, david zaslav had a chance to cancel this abomination and did not

[@Polygonlin]

The White Panther part is *EXACTLY* what ive been saying for Years now. if they had picked a White Dude to be "Black Panther" after the re-cast due to death, people would have *LOST THEIR ABSOLUTE MINDS!*

[@toonrex2806]

I'd pay to see White Panther: Sugar Daddy's Revenge. Sounds way better than the crap that Marvel has been shitting out recently.

[@brockdavid]

I want to help him film this, act in it. I’m retired, I’ll work on White Panther: Sugar Daddy’s Revenge, pro bono

[@tylermckinney2041]

The murder victims in Velma are Fred, Daphne, Shaggy, and Velma, and it was Mindy Kaling that murdered them.

[@theblackbaron4119]

Her mean spirited and jaded self insert story is only a small stain on the legacy of Hannah-Barbers original show.

[@undeadpig_37ps49]

I thought and still thinks it's weird that they call "new shaggy" Norville but when I looked up why apparently that's shaggy's actually name since like the 80's but is rarely ever mentioned.

[@dylancross1039]

It's rarely ever mentioned because Shaggy doesn't want to be called Norville.

[@georgeray1906]

@@dylancross1039 I guess the reason Shaggy isn't called Norville is possible due to his appearance makes him appear shaggy or perhaps he's a bit embarrassed of his birth name.

[@droth1031]

It's kind of like how Jughead's real name is Forsythe

[@sleepingmorpheus]

23:43 That's because every writer of this show was (and is) part of the "ugly" clique, so they're forcing their dreams of what they wish (as adults) they could've done in high school, onto depictions of actual highschoolers. These people are mentally ill, and are pushing that illness onto younger generations, making todays teenagers more hyper-focused on sex and sleeping with their friends than any generation before them. Rather than aspiring to become intelligent, happy, fun-loving, curious, or even fashionable (the core attributes of the original Mystery Inc. members), kids and teens today will aspire to be sexy, popular, snarky, and slutty. This is not hyperbole, this is what I have to see and deal with, working with children every day to try to prevent them falling into this mindset, and let me tell you, it's a losing battle.

[@fionnaitsradag5152]

The reference to the "Cats" movie as an example of ultimate evil cracked me up. I'd just been thinking about that nightmare fuel.😆

[@etme1000]

That first few seconds with Velma and Henry already earned you a like from me. Keep up the good work. You are in a crowded market, but you do stand out.

[@DespotofAntrim]

Film criticism is a crowded market but then so is every popular category on KZbin, and there are far more crowded markets: make up, gaming, lifestyle, travel, beauty, politics, influencer vloggers, kids content. Film criticism occupies a largely mid level space on KZbin, if that.

[@perturbedcalifornian1853]

Simply put, we have a bourgeois, disconnected, resentful class of artists who hate you for not thinking they’re Picasso, take it out on everything you love, resent you for not thinking they’re Picasso, and the cycle continues with them becoming angrier and more obvious and overt with their resentment with each repeat of the cycle. The worlds not necessarily becoming crazier, these people are just showing the hatred they had all along more and more.

[@flewis02]

People actually read the script for this, out loud, and actually agreed to help make it... The guy who voices Fred should be beyond ashamed, the Animators are working their ass off to prove they deserve their jobs though

[@DespotofAntrim]

The animation is far better than this show deserves. Imagine being an animatir and having your professionalism disrespected by these showrunners. It's sick.

[@crellercorps]

Sugar Daddy pitch had me laughing out loud and as an absurdist comedy critiquing modern society I would fking LOVE it

[@vincentwerts4724]

It's so abominable, it's almost beautiful. All I can do is feel a well of pity for Mindy; imagine having that much hate in your heart.

[@Johnsrage]

I don't understand why they didn't handle this more like The Venture Brothers- a show that was obviously a parody of Jonny Quest, but also a show that was able to develope in its own original way.

[@Johnsrage]

@@zogwort1522 Then why even call it Velma? Rename all the characters and leave a beloved franchice alone.

[@Johnsrage]

@@zogwort1522 Which is the problem--it should never have been greenlit.

[@JonnyCrackers]

Because the people who make Venture Bros. are talented and smart and the people who made Velma are narcissistic morons.

[@Kwolfx]

Just a few weeks ago, I wasn't certain what was worse, The Rings of Power or She-Hulk. Somehow, Mindy Kaling created a show that was more abrasive, stupid and vile than both of the two previous shows I mentioned, combined. The only good thing about Velma are the hilarious reactions and reviews it has generated, like this one.

[@brockdavid]

You spelled “Mindy Kringe” wrong ;D

[@dronesclubhighjinks]

Your video was so well done that I had to watch it twice! I had quite a few thoughts, so I’m actually going to split my comments into two parts. Your analyses are always very thorough and you back up your claims with excellent examples. Your pitch meeting scenario for “White Panther: Sugar Daddy’s Revenge” was on point for sure! (Are you familiar with the comedy channel “pitch meetings“? I can hardly wait for “Velma!” His most recent was “Wednesday” and he has done “She-Hulk,” and “Rings of Power”, and approximately 300 other videos, all of which are hilarious! The comedian has another channel called “Ryan George“ which seems to be his actual name. Highly recommend!) There is another channel which will probably interest you quite a bit as it is run by a former network executive. “Call me Chato” has a unique perspective on shows and movies as he used to receive all the pitches, and can tell us exactly what network executives are looking for when they greenlight a show. Thank you for providing such high-quality content! You deserve subscribers in the hundreds of thousands at least!

[@DespotofAntrim]

Thank you for the comment! I subscribe to Chato, it's interesting to hear him compare the sane takes of executives from back in the day with the modern insanity. I will definitely check out pitch meetings also. Thank you!

[@solkoselig3686]

Rock the casbah in the background of dude bros talking was unexpected but pleasant, I legitimately wheezed at it more than I did when watching welma

[@EatWave]

20:40 Somehow, they took the Murder Mystery genre which is built around the concept of Specific Violence (where harm is only visited upon characters with names and some degree of characterization for the sake of greater dramatic impact) and reduced the murder victims to the equivalent of disposable mooks in an action movie.

[@DespotofAntrim]

That's something I realized after this video, the victims in the show are dehumanized props that are played for laughs, it's genuinely sick when you think about it.

[@kristennieto7785]

@@DespotofAntrim When their brutal dismemberment isn't played for laughs, these high school girls are paraded as sex objects for the camera. Lesbianism is injected to add "feminism", yet they give a lot of fan service to the sort of pervs who prey on teenagers irl. Maybe I'm being too much of a mom. But this particular hypocrisy, in a show riddled with hypocrisy, I found problematic.

[@silverbloodborne9495]

Yeah i can barley wacth movie now days because they dont tell proper storys anymore . Id rather watch song of the south ( that actually had a story )

[@jeffreysommer3292]

A brilliant and insightful analysis of why this show is an utter abomination. Thank you so much for creating it!

[@DespotofAntrim]

Thanks for watching!

[@inverted_real_it_y]

I'd watch the shit out of White Panther

[@xar9499]

I have to believe this was made for tax evasion purposes or some such thing and they were told to just make the worst show possible.

[@mustardnbiscuits5338]

You earned yourself a sub my friend. Shows like this no one has asked for, and they desperately need to be faded out. We can only pray for our ridiculously poisoned youth.🙏🙏🙏

[@declanjones8888]

It's not exactly a poisoned youth, I'm 19 trust me I know. Although your not entirely far away from what I think is the root issue, which is a bunch of "Hacktivist" pretending their advocating for diversity, when in reality they're advocating for tokenism. As well as pretending that all white people (especially white men) are the most evil and sadistic people in the universe. Which I always found kinda funny, because some of these crazy SJW's are white!

[@DespotofAntrim]

Thanks for the sub! I do feel bad for kids these days, between garbage like this and tiktok the entertainment culture they are been raised on is absolute cancer.

[@declanjones8888]

@@DespotofAntrim What I was trying to tell my peers all through out High School.

[@edygrimmoviereactions2858]

14:43 It's like you predicted episode 4, because that's the entire theme

[@kristianpeterson2571]

This is the most concise review I've seen of this thing yet. Well done, mate.

[@DespotofAntrim]

Thanks!

[@emmagrove6491]

Now I know how crestfallen King Theoden felt when in The Two Towers he uttered the lines, "How did it come to this?"

[@PATCHALEXY]

i'd unironically rather watch white panther than velma

[@BoyGeorgiaX]

If we were doing the self insert thing Velma should be a lot more busted.

[@catrie9965]

Speaking of 1990s the reference of the photos of babies dressed as vegetables is a reference to Anne Geddes, who became popular in the 90s for just that thing.

[@churlbut666]

If a alien race decides to eradicate us, they can use Velma as a justification (Pure Gold)

[@armouredjester1622]

This is the kind of guy I want writing shows, not the narcissistic racists that populate the "entertainment" industry

[@DespotofAntrim]

Soon we will have the technology (AI / Unreal Engine), and will create our own shows.

[@ZugzugZugzugson]

".......you are hiding untainted franchises under the floorboards are you not?"

[@Vlad-Determined-Hustle]

White Panther: Sugar Daddy’s Revenge is the movie I didn’t know that I wanted to see made until now.

[@danielberg5049]

"SugarDaddy's Revenge" sounds bloody brilliant.

[@bryan81584]

It may be the modern equivalent of toilet humor, but the Austin powers "who does number 2 work for" bit was actually funny .

[@DespotofAntrim]

I agree, it's a funny scene.

[@Drixenol86]

Even toilet humor needs good writing in order to be funny.

[@moaningpheromones]

I seriously watched without really getting number two - they managed to make it sound normal. I think I was better off - ha.

[@Lfc-YNWA97]

This is my first video I've watched from you and I can already tell in 5 minutes that you're an absolute legend. I've not laughed this much in ages 😂

[@DespotofAntrim]

Thanks. Welcome to the channel.

[@spoiler321]

"write a poorly conceived comedy show in the style of a terrible writer." The Little Platoon

[@dbf1dware]

Wow, watching Hank Azaria switch among those voices is a wonder to behold. He is astounding.

[@DespotofAntrim]

It's brilliant to watch.

[@americansupervillain4595]

5:27 That man's face is clearly saying "please kill me".

[@crawdad4823]

I just discovered this channel. It's solid gold! The awards show is a must-watch, and this video is literally the only good thing about Velma.

[@TBoneTony]

I think the show should have been it's original IP with original characters. There is a reason why Drawn Together had their own original characters that were parodies of existing characters. Shows like Velma as well as Thundercats Roar and the He-Man/Sheera remakes are made not understanding this.

[@stormythelowcountrykitty7147]

It seems this show was written to get people angry; and maybe to watch to be enraged.

[@whitemagus2000]

This show just isn't even Scooby Doo. They should have just called it it's own thing, like the Social Justice Detective or something. Even taken on it's own, it's bafflingly awful. Whoever made this is a mean spirited bad human being.

[@DespotofAntrim]

'Social Justice Detective.' LOL!

[@cory6266]

"How did shows get this bad?" Rampant Democrat/Leftist/liberal nonsense.

[@_Pyroon_]

Ah yes, Mindy the feminist icon who directly admitted abusing her power by choosing male actors based on their looks, adding kissing scenes, forgetting not to use tongue, then when confronted by HR, warning the guys they'll be fired if they speak out. Yes, this was on some late night show and no one cared.

[@Unhandled_Exception]

Actors can only play characters of their same race?? It's like they've never heard of "Hamilton".

[@nathanfish1998]

23:43 if I recall correctly, the references they use say Velma is 14-15, so it's much worse

[@happyhappystimpy6017]

I don't think "meta humor" in general needs to die.. It's just that Velma uses it in a way that's just terribly written and both condescending to it's viewer. It's like constantly holding the viewer's hand to see if they get the referenced or thing they just cameoed in their own show. Shows like Animaniacs, Tiny Toons, etc.. Works because of how it's charming, and sometimes subtle. With Velma, it's just fucking annoying.

[@msmaria5039]

And Scooby Doo wasn't known for breaking the fourth wall.

[@happyhappystimpy6017]

@@msmaria5039 Except for "A Pup Named Scooby-Doo"..

[@msmaria5039]

@@happyhappystimpy6017 wait, really? It's been ages since I watch that.

[@heinoustentacles5719]

those shows came out in the 90s, when meta-humour was a novelty. it definitely needs to be put on the back burner for a while.

[@coreysayre1376]

There isn't much I wouldn't do to see White Panther: Revenge of Sugar Daddy, in theatres.

[@MrMoneyclips]

One good thing Velma did was help me find this channel

[@brendancoulter5761]

Meta humor is a sign of insecurity in the writier. Then they dont believe in their own script, they pepper it with meta humor, this making it "ironic" and beyond criticism. Its the writing equivalent of a teen who is trying his hardest to convince everyone they dont care about anything.

[@elinoirsmythe224]

White Panther: Sugar Daddy's Revenge sounds pretty decent, not gonna lie.

[@nathanfish1998]

10:23 honestly, as fucking terrible as She-Hulk's show is, the meta-aspect of the show was also present in the comic series, so it's not as if it was an idea that came out of nowhere

[@thefanwithoutaface8105]

At this point everyone, lets just stick to anime.

[@legitrequisite]

I actually haven't watched an American film or show in about half a year and I'm quite enjoying it

[@Prynnifex]

And hen hens yeah

[@phlog_dog7336]

Anime is even worse than this stuff. Just stick with old media.

[@Prynnifex]

It's more entertaining anime that is

[@peppersaltsman6044]

I haven't even watched anime in like 10 years and even I agree