Destiny 2 Lore - Felwinter's Lie Explained! The Truth at last! Felwinter's connection to Rasputin!

[@knightcheyson]

"And the tyrant looked upon his tyranny...and wept." Rasputin: **Cries in Dial-Up Modem**

[@arcanealchemist3190]

honestly the stutter in the rasputin-speak for that line felt super emotional to me. maybe its just me though.

[@bandarsalh1338]

It would have been better if he showed this to saladin as some sort of redemption or respect

[@knightcheyson]

@@arcanealchemist3190 Honestly him making a hologram and coffin for his son was heartwrenching- like if he did that for Fellwinter, I wonder what his initial intentions were...

[@knightcheyson]

@@bandarsalh1338 Well, that would be like smacking a sunburn, y'know? It may not inspire a fight, but it'll sting for awhile while he reminisces, then again maybe I'm thinking too deep

[@JUNIsLuke]

That almost made me tear up

[@IC33E]

Brought the famous angry father line , “I brought you into this world, I can take you out” to a whole another level

[@tacoblackmanofthegreatchor4282]

Lmao

[@thatsjusttank]

more of a mother’s line but i like your thinking(hehe if you know you know)

[@myecomjourney1838]

Rasputin has no chill.

[@BirdOfHermes83]

And I'm gonna drug you and touch things!

[@BirdOfHermes83]

And I'm gonna drug you and touch things!

[@thefatherinthecave943]

Felwinter: There is no lie, take off your socks

[@melonhead238]

The Father in the Cave yas

[@nathancollins3330]

can exo's where socks

[@applinarcus]

I have the meme 😂

[@ajax4340]

@@nathancollins3330 Just because we're robotic doesn't mean we don't wear socks

[@inferno769]

@@ajax4340 yeah, wait...

[@CraigLoos]

"And the tyrant looked upon his tyranny and wept." That is powerful.

[@AstridTheBee]

The fact that Rasputin is even showing us this proves how immensely sorrowful he is about it.

[@MeroInLostWoods]

Heavily reminded me to the painting " Ivan the Terrible and His Son"

[@IRUNASSULT]

Zavala accepted Rasputin as an equal and ally of the city already early this season, but I think this was him revealing his deepest regret and shame to the Young Wolf, the one that had to combat the plague he unleashed and right those wrongs was the player. I feel that this was his way of asking for forgiveness, that even when we learn the truth, will we will forgive him and accept him as an ally after the almighty is destroyed, or cast him aside and depend upon our light alone instead of the helping hand of a muderer.

[@jamesfly1000]

it looked like Rasputin also kept a piece of Felwinter's right boot in the memorial casket thing

[@PhonesAreDumb]

The tyrant was like "OH NOES!!"

[@trial_with_an_error9687]

I’ve haven’t actually felt this much sorrow since Cayde’s death. The team did an amazing job with this one.

[@masonjones7777]

I bet their hanging out in in the big ramen shop in the sky reminiscing about the good days

[@hype6633]

JakeSpacePirate E nah bro self promotion ain’t cool get that shit outta here

[@orlandobritt1460]

Why is it only exos deaths that gives use the feels.

[@bspoon2529]

facts

[@hunter_michelie4425]

Orlando Britt without flesh, one must carve their own meaning on what it is to be human

[@lordofpizza117]

Every time someone else says something about the lore Me:byf i need clarification

[@fxlcqn2746]

so true

[@Skywatcher16]

i like to consiter myself a loremaster of sorts. its still nice to confer with others to get other perspectives and decrease the chances that a detail was missed.

[@DronesOverTheMoon]

I need some "clarity"

[@collabcentral6006]

"& the tyrant looked upon his tyranny & wept." Why did that line feel like a Warsat hitting me?

[@scorch3677]

Because a WarSat did hit you

[@dankerbell]

because it means rasputin can feel emotions which is disturbing because he could easily betray us and i still don't trust him after everything

[@thefatherinthecave943]

Dankthony Daniels more like if rasputin has feelings he won’t elect to let 99% of humanity die If the darkness returns

[@bailmortem]

@@scorch3677 a warSAD if you will

[@nikik5567]

Emperor's Champion to be fair, he didn’t ACTUALLY want all the iron lords to come. He just dealt with them since they came anyway. He only really intended for felwinter to come.

[@bige9856]

Byf saying “Nrp.” and “Rnnn. Men.” is the best thing ever

[@MynameisByf]

Just waiting for someone to meme it tbh :b

[@banditbro25]

@@MynameisByf Just need a close picture of your guardian of choice (your titan, warlock or hunter take your pick) and i can get a meme in your discord by Tuesday at the latest. Lol

[@jackyvalencia77]

My name is Byf or use it inappropriately lol

[@dgonz6027]

@@MynameisByf Yarp

[@Corvaric]

@@banditbro25 Yes please

[@beninmalgaard9836]

I got the entire "The Liar" lore book as soon as I could. It's good to have the Felwinter's Lie back, but having Felwinter's origin story took the prize.

[@seraphofthelost7376]

I agree 100% with this statement

[@trustee8503]

its so tragic and well done, coolest warlock by far, best part of this season

[@quickg3798]

Tiger Tiger well said coolest warlock. I’m a hunter main, but us hunter don’t got characters like osiris, toland or felwinter.

[@jackspicer5261]

Quick G, we have Cayde and shin

[@Skywatcher16]

@@quickg3798 as a warlock main, we dont have characters like shinn or cayde or lady efideet

[@zZach___]

Felwinter is probably my favorite character. All he wanted was to hide in the beginning, scared of the onslaught by Rasputin, but the girl's words cut deep and he wanted to help everyone before helping himself. A true King.

[@donnezha6278]

So everyone is ignoring the fact that Rasputin literally created life, life that was accepted by the travlers light.

[@AverageJ03Gaming]

Somewhat. Felwinter was an Exo, and considering the HEAVY hints that rasputin is an "exo" in a similar way, it checks out actually. Basically, both Rasputin and exos themselves were Golden Age Braytech stuff. Braytech and Deep Stone were responsible for Exos, being human minds in robotic bodies to achieve "immortality" in a way, and it's not too far off to assume Rasputin was made in a similar manner and Felwinter may have been his actual human child. Either way, Felwinter's an exo so the traveler scooping him up is less attributed to Rasputin and more to the fact that it grabs exos in general.

[@donnezha6278]

@@AverageJ03Gaming the point still stands, even if Rasputin was a human once, Felwinter was not. If I remember correctly, normal humans were "resleeved" by other humans and not by Rasputin. Rasputin creating Felwinter as a program makes more sense. I personally doubt that Rasputin was a human once tho.

[@Needler13]

@@donnezha6278 remember back in the golden age, Rasputin wasn't all knowing as he is now...somewhat. he may be programmed to do something with the crypt and exos as well and took a liking to human felwinter and when he was resleeved as an exo, took some control over the exo body. Before exos get the light and become guardians they still had limits of a computerized cyborg body. Meaning they still have software and tech to have, Rasputin could have easily taken control of felwinter exo body as a spy to learn more of humanity. Looking through the eyes of felwinter and then the collapse happened and he became a risen. When he became a risen he got the light which broke that enslavement code and let the exos be free if certain limitations of their bodies. like being wiped from memory after a reset

[@Ghost_Toast5000]

Ah yes... *The Travler*

[@a.tucker32]

Is that what happened? I was under the impression the Exo's Rasputin was using were already someone before him. When they were converted into exos at the Deep Stone Crypt would be when he put part of himself in them then he used them for inform gathering. I think that would be more likely, Rasputin would know that the more accepted they'd be by society the better they'd serve their purpose, and I dont think it would have tried to create a consciousness when it could just use existing ones. As far as I'm aware nothing says that the Exo's it was using were entirely created by it.

[@lillyalightbornexo1036]

When I read the lore I was absolutely shocked. It’s insane. Felspring

[@melonhead238]

Right?

[@DodoBird727]

Felsummer

[@lukefurno1151]

Dodo stop you.......... WAIT!? *Felfall*

[@lillyalightbornexo1036]

Łeonard von Kahee-ros how i feel when entering the crucible rn tbh

[@inferno769]

@@lukefurno1151 Yes I want a falafel please and thank you

[@ZeroKelvin440]

Rasputin weeping: “Wah-wah Rasputin...”

[@obwolf]

Zero Kelvin Lover of the Awoken Queen he had a son that really was gone...

[@flying_duck_person3882]

Wah wah Rasputin City’s favorite war machine

[@gary1471]

GOD DAMMIT HOW DOES THIS ONLY HAVE 90 LIKES???

[@horiaradu2366]

It was a shame how he killed them all

[@ironladyerimuth]

*”And the Tyrant looked upon his tyranny, and wept”* is possibly the most emotion I have ever felt from a single line.

[@bige9856]

Everyone: god this quest is underwhelming Me: but... but... the *lore*

[@jacksonmcphail546]

The lore in this quest is unreal, so I'm super happy w it

[@Cpt_John_Price]

"god this quest is underwhelming"

[@NEWGHOST9]

idk where you've been lurking but i havent heard a SINGLE person once say anything other than OMFG this was one of the coolest quests ever xD

[@Qahnaarin-xp6dz]

@@NEWGHOST9 ive seen nearly constant complaints about it being underwhelming. i love the lore so it was amazing for me!

[@Bannaclip]

The lore is great but the quest was garbage

[@lukebarroso449]

The lore was very interesting to learn, but I feel so bad for Felwinter and also how the iron lords were just collateral. Rest in peace Felwinter and the Lords of Iron.😔

[@caseymyers2210]

I feel there are a few things to take in from this lore. 1) Felwinter was an exo built to explore humanity and learn human actions and thoughts. But due to the immense risk of Felwinter being part guardian, part warmind and what violent ambitious people might do with this revelation, Rasputin had to kill Felwinter. For protecting not only himself, but possibly the entire Last City. 2) Warlords and Iron Lords alike, guardians fought against each other for supplies and to invoke the "Traveler's blessing" onto innocent lives (confirmed by Drifter tapes) and the Iron Lords went in search of Siva for more than just rebuilding the cities. Recognizing some selfish ambitions from at least a few of the Iron Lords, as well as seeing the potential catastrophe from using Siva and as a lesson for the the Iron Lords to learn about the harsh reality of the Dark Age, Rasputin killed the Iron Lords, leaving Saladin alone. Very deep.

[@reesedigital1527]

@Luke Barroso Felwinter wasn't perfect but he was trying to live his own life and help others. I teared up learning what Rasputin had done to him. I know it's just a game but you know it's good writing when a 35 year old man is on the verge of tears of a well written character. R.I.P Felwinter...

[@lukebarroso449]

@@reesedigital1527 Even if it is a game I feel the same sentiment towards Felwinter and other characters in Destiny. I also appreciate the response to my comment, thank you for your honesty.

[@Jethro_Flynn]

@@reesedigital1527 also i love that you could feel the sadness and regret that Rasputin felt, like even though his brain was scrambled eggs at the time he regrets losing his "son" to his paranoia and tyranical decisions.

[@erickrasniewski567]

@Adventist yet he regrets him killing his son yeah such a monster

[@tuttuti123]

when I see the coffin I was like "So you did regret it huh, old man?"

[@nikik5567]

He finally had emotions. He finally had understanding. Now he COULD regret it. And he did, he had learned how to think like a human, and to understand that what he had done was wrong.

[@tray6441]

Niki K good for that metal bastard

[@DeusExAngelo]

The lore behind Felwinter's lie, not only acts as connective tissue for this season and what happened in Rise of Iron, but also plays on concepts from the original Destiny (with Rasputin being an Exo). It also illustrates that the reason Rasputin went after the Iron Lords and had a distrust of Guardians is because of their paracausal nature (the same wielded by the Pyramid Fleet/Veil) and we he had to go dark (save for some instances it seems he resurfaced a times while trying to rebuild his power.) He likely didn't the either the Light or the Dark, and having on his greatest assets (or even one perhaps he saw as a son) become a valuable asset in the hands of this greater power likely put Rasputin hugely on edge. If Felwinter was deeply tied to Rasputin, Rasputin could've feared that Felwinter had the potential to overwrite his authority and put it in the hands of this force he did not completely trust. At this point, I think if Rasputin is sentient and even splintered (as in trying to reconnect himself and his network), he was also suffering from a sense of paranoia. In my personal opinion perhaps. That paranoia led him to turn on potential-and-eventual allies, because he had already lost so much to these powers unknown. He already lost enough to the Darkness, he risked Losing his responsibility, power, and even "loyal followers" to the Light. He wouldn't have it. So he used SIVA to bait and eventually destroy the Iron Lords, among with his other resources. Perhaps, after he had done so, he realized what he did and felt greatly ashamed...thus never taking back control of SIVA and allowing the Aksis and the splicers to take command of it. Also, I wish Lord Saladin was part of this quest line in some way.

[@freakctc]

Bare in mind, by the point Felwinter was resurrected as a guardian, Rasputin had deactivated his moral program to better protect humanity, as seen in the Sleeper Simulant Exotic quest. So, killing Felwinter didn't come across as 'morally wrong'. It wasn't till after Felwinter was gone that Rasputin had a chance to realize what he did. I theorize it was at that point that Rasputin went offline, leaving one or two sub-minds active to watch humanity. And those sub-minds had no control over frames or anything other than the ability to attack targets with Warsats, like we saw in D1.

[@Skywatcher16]

yep. as a lore guy and iron banner fan, i was sadly rather dissapointed in the rise of iron DLC. and this finally, years later wraps up one of the reasons why i found it underwhelming. it was made clear that SIVA was under rasputins control, likely one of the many ways he maintained his infrastructure among other things. and there was even hints that rasputin may have led the iron lords to their doom. but what we NEVER had an explanation of, was why? why would the warmind destroy potential allies? people who litterally wanted nothing more than to rebuild what rasputin had been charged to protect? and if those hints that rasputin used this as a trap were true, a trap for what purpose?

[@liam8653]

48 minutes of pure heaven, honestly byf I love these long videos, just putting them on and watching and listening while doing mundane stuff like grinding out the dailys and weeklys or seraph bits is amazing and brings my love of destiny to a new level every time

[@divinesoul23]

Seconded!

[@Narwhaligator]

you know, our gaurdian was found just outside of that cosmodrome, and at many points in our journey we have encountered Rasputin and he even helps us at points. So what are the chances that our character is a resurrected seraph?

[@Distortion23]

It’s not stated that the Awoken Guardian is a corsiar but Sedia does state that some of the Awoken corsairs recognise them from before they died. Could be a wife/wives(Awoken men marry multiple women), daughter/daughters, sister/sisters, actual cousins, mother or a mix of a few of those possibilities.

[@Noneya1l]

Mind freaking blown we do have alot of connection maybe we are some how connected to the beginning like the creation of light n dark I know that's a big far out there but man you have my mind spinning

[@scorch3677]

I’m an Exo so, ROBO SERAPH

[@rafaela.colonporto5805]

Narwhaligator well, we can be exos so you aren’t far fetched

[@wolfpack3564]

And i thought of this too if u are the human u might be one of the ones he worked with like ana

[@Zeraybifive]

Andal was so close on figuring the Truth, he just bet on the wrong Exo.

[@benm3017]

As in Andal Brask? Did he almost figure out Felwinter was of the Warmind?

[@inertiahwk8853]

@@benm3017 he bet Cayde that he was Rasputin, or something along those lines, I've forgot, it's been a little

[@TheRabbidChipmunk]

The Community when the door didn't open - 8:05

[@senjuranaki6362]

Top Comment

[@AymenDZA]

32:27 "This is it, Felspring. This could change everything" And it did.

[@danielmcauley9507]

this makes me want a game based on that story alone

[@typicaltrash5163]

Telltale: Felwinters Peak

[@J.Starkweather]

Heck even a side scroller like Hollow Knight would be awesome

[@blakscruffy]

I want to have Byf's voice on my ghost

[@TheForbidden_1ne]

That'd be 10000 times better than the one we have lol

[@84m30]

As opposed to squeaky, modulated Nolandroid

[@atlasplayz1739]

This needs to happen

[@Demigodking]

Sack the Mac he’s not squeaky

[@alexisg.7312]

Sometimes I catch myself having inner dialogue as my hunter and ghost specifically. And usually the ghost does sound like Byf. Yeah yeah I'm weird ik

[@Crashbmaster0]

Byf always makes me return to destiny. His lore is what drives me forward with this game. You sir are a legend and glue this world for everyone.

[@johnrosales8666]

Imagine if Bungie produced a prequel tv series with all this lore like Star Wars did with the Clone Wars series

[@Skywatcher16]

rasputin thought he was acting in the best interest of himself. possibly of the remains of humanity as well. defending both from a potential threat of a darkness corrupted exo with access to the warmind network. now he knows he made a mistake. and his reaction is beyond annas shallow claim of sentimentality. its *regret*. this is the action, the reaction, of a being that has found themselves to have been mistaken and in the wrong, and is genuinely sorrowed and remorseful of that mistake and the consequences of having made it. anna is right about one thing though. its too bad zavala didnt get to see this. its too bad that saladin, effrideet, and shaxx didnt either.

[@soul1773]

I think we all know how Zavala would react.

[@citizenterra3589]

Saladin would test Rasputin to pieces if he knew about this.

[@KamelYellow]

47:42 I love how the acolyte slides into the frame in perfect sync with "soooo yeah". Stylish as hell

[@whysogrim697]

When you carnt pay attention to the in game dialogue because of your new daughter taking all your attention so you gotta watch a byf video whilst you poo to catch up........

[@KonathaoSoberuNartio]

That is a long poo...

[@noahsnyder6123]

Avery-Jade he probably split up into multiple poos

[@beninmalgaard9836]

With that name and picture profile, you should've said that the way Devrim would've said it. 🤣

[@whysogrim697]

@@beninmalgaard9836 can confirm it was watched in full length with the addition of pins and needles in the toes. I normally do post in Devrim style but I honestly just wanted to watch the video

[@reddfriend]

Why am I literally reading this comment while taking a crap? Coincidence?

[@lamcb.9476]

Rasputin is almost like a child, still learning how to contextualize emotions and desperately trying to get something that he could label as "mine" back. The he chose the word "son" because to him that was the proper term to describe his relationship with Fellwinter

[@lukefurno1151]

Looks like “The Lie” Quest reveled the truth......in more ways then we thought originally 😎🤔

[@ZackMeGongagaFair]

Or did it?

[@nicholaspaat7302]

@@ZackMeGongagaFair Hey. Vsauce, Michael here

[@mshaman86]

Alright Horacio from csi Miami

[@frozetei8169]

Itd be funny if they just gave you Truth again for finishing the quest

[@lukefurno1151]

frozetei 🤣

[@lukefurno1151]

Felwinter’s Lie: *HAHA I HAVE THE MOST RANGE OF ANY SHOTGUN IN DESTINY!?!?* Universal Remote: ima bout too end this Gun’s whole career 😏

[@trial_with_an_error9687]

Felwinter’s Lie: Sit down, king’s home.

[@masonjones7777]

chaparone: Excuse me wot m8?

[@lukefurno1151]

Mason Jones Chaperone in D1: I’m a Fucking Badass 😎 Chaperone in D2: I’m a fucking disgrace to shotguns 😭 Reason why Chaperone is bad in D2 and not D1???? The Perk: The Survivor On the 3 Headshot hits return 2 rounds to the mag......... So my question is this When are we getting a Chaperone Catalyst with this perk 🤨🤨🤨

[@katzura39]

@@lukefurno1151 chaperone is great in d2 wdym

[@CODYoungGunna]

@@lukefurno1151 dude it's a PVP shotgun. That perk would be OP in this meta

[@revenant5142]

The story of my wielder has been told well. The Lie has finally been unveiled, and the Truth has been told. The burden my name holds can now be lifted. I look forward to experiencing this world in your hands, Guardian.

[@revenant5142]

@@UltimateSty I have punished many Risen with final deaths. I will gladly give our enemies their final deaths.

[@juliat.1186]

As your wielder once, so will I use you against our true enemy. The one we can’t escape, can’t hide from. May we meet again on the battlefield...

[@AngelicBeatdown]

Perfect Paradox has a brother now

[@JJMomoida]

I will put you in my vault. I hope you can make friends with the sidearms in it.

[@nickcappalli518]

do you have clones

[@Sigsen]

Ah, time for his helmet to be a permanent thing on my warlock

[@torunsmok5890]

I really hope we get a full set of exotic armor that all were weilded by Felwinter. It just feels right, yknow? He's just that badass that his entire daily wear should be exotic. Also, I would love to see a sword that looks like an older style Rasputin ey dawnblade, as a legendary, to use along with outbreak and the lie and his helm

[@brucehc4975]

Guardian: "you can't hit me with your shotgun at that range". Felwinters Lie: *BET*

[@gagekellstrom3978]

I got tapped at 25 meters this week in trials, this thing hurts

[@croniktoast1195]

probably nothing but in the tomb where we get "Felwinter's lie", the leg has a armor piece on it.

[@PaleRider1177]

Re watched this today after everything we’ve learn about Rasputin and Clovis. Lots of more dots connected.

[@chrischapman163]

I see I’m not the only one who slapped on Backuo Mag.

[@user-iq1wj3ns7s]

“A”

[@SebasDesign]

I mean four shots? what is this a sniper? oh wait...

[@zolaries04]

@@SebasDesign IKR

[@shebdjsnwddjdnbssjbdbdbejd5589]

Sebas Design That’s exactly what it was in destiny 1

[@senjuranaki6362]

I put on dragonfly spec, FIGHT ME

[@jurizcouter1210]

Man I love his voice I could sleep when he talks

[@abassi1173]

Until he drops an “rrrrrrrr”

[@supervegha7958]

Indeed

[@MOLONEYLTD]

lol i did last night

[@aceundead4750]

Have you tried watching TSLAYP?

[@no_spicy_ramen6264]

Byf: warframe Lore is coming back Me: happy tenno noise

[@itsaturtlehead8536]

*Hey kiddo*

[@no_spicy_ramen6264]

Do you guys ever.... Region Chat ?

[@burningbronze7555]

@@no_spicy_ramen6264 No

[@katzura39]

@@no_spicy_ramen6264 you mean the day care

[@JuanPalomoM]

Clem

[@Catalyst375]

17:50 - The moment that was mentioned, my mind turned to SIVA.

[@kylanrankin6714]

These vids have gotten 1000x more interesting now that Byf is cracking jokes. Keep it up man!

[@syed_2k911]

Tbh the dialogues of the quest made mee soo paranoid that I was hoping u would make this video

[@grey_wind]

You sir.... Are an integral part of my destiny experience. Seriously, I know we all cry your laurels all day long, and you probably get tired of hearing it 🤣 but truly, you were born to be a storyteller. Thank you for sharing that with the destiny community.

[@shadowrunner2323]

So, I watched this just before this weeks reset. Timely.

[@donatedorb4094]

Watching this video reminded me of when back in his earlier lore videos, Byf used to have background gameplay of his guardian themed to fit the context of the lore he was discussing with his hud off, just walking around thematic locations like he did for Dredgen Yor and Shin Malphur. I miss those.

[@lastfire77]

12:10 "untouched, unpreserved" Byf plox.

[@thecelgames2937]

Best things to come out of the last two seasons were the fully fleshed out stories of Saint-14 and Felwinter for me.

[@makoredeyes]

Too new of a Newlight to have played through all of this originally, but revisiting this as relevant to Season 19 and OMPH The Feels.

[@akanji8285]

I feel like felwinters story from resurrection ending with the death of the iron lords from Siva would make a awesome movie

[@DeadlyDolrmenu2]

Knowing Rasputin’s full story now, makes this even more tragic

[@callsignjoker1]

This story would make such a wonderful film adaptation.

[@mikedtheartist]

Fan-freaking-tastic!!! I've been away from Destiny for several weeks, and this video has brought me back. Thank you.

[@judethompson2071]

Woke up to watch this today and already know I’m going to have a great day

[@liamodahl1205]

44:23 "A weapon that represents untold pain in the Crucible, a weapon that has caused so much frustration... A weapon... That is bullshit."

[@loneenvoyyale5259]

To me when I now look at siva's logo I see a crying Rasputin logo. I doubt that's what it would be in the realm of destiny but I think it would be cool if bungie planned this all along

[@taifhamid1]

"And the tyrant looked upon his tyranny and wept" i know this has been in the game for a while but after the new lore we got it just hits different, my new favorite quote.

[@pastelsunset]

Honestly, we need a Destiny game (or at least some kind of experience) set in the Dark Age.

[@Awoken_Remmuz]

Well people have suggested many times that just like with Halo that Bungie should expand the Destiny universe with book series. A whole series of books covering the dark age from multiple angles be swell.

[@isaacdiogenes3382]

Would love to have a destiny series similar to the clone wars, since a live action show would be really expensive

[@Noneya1l]

This has been the best part of the entire season thank you so much byf I really needed to have something great come from destiny and this was it

[@lewisbaker9894]

Actually got pretty emotional near the end there god-damn

[@eug504ene]

I’ve been about 4 or 5 years since I’ve Last listening to your videos. I just join back with the destiny community and I appreciate your time that you take to this. Because me being able to listen to the lure.Makes playing the game much more interesting to follow along with the broken stories they give you at times

[@savagediamonds1120]

There should have been a triump seal caller "the liar" for completing the lore triumps for this gun

[@Tshihabeddin]

I'm so glad I found this channel. I hope you get a bunch more subscribers. Your story telling brings things to life.

[@latoyawright3900]

The Tyrant love thy humanity so much, that he gave his own begotten son.... And Wept😢

[@alexanderruffin3363]

😱😱😱😱

[@cosmicseaa1119]

These videos take so much and demand alot from many different people.. It takes 2 seconds to subscribe.. well worth it for all the work that goes into his channel

[@TheVentrexian]

Lumina and FL is how I'm going into next season after I sat this one out.

[@RoniCarter12]

I can finally say I fully understand one of your videos, because I finally took part in it and experienced it for my self. I played D1 years ago at friends dorm in college and was hooked. Then much later I happened upon your channel and it reignited my interest in Destiny until I finally got it for myself, so thank you for making these videos. I hope you continue to make them for some time.

[@MrDeathGamer89]

I kinda feel like this gun should of been a exotic

[@GeeBeeOhThree]

@Adventist We already have it know that his Helm and Gloves were Exotic! (Felwinter's Helm and Winter's Guile)

[@antas_demons4963]

The weapon is to easy to get to be a exotic weapon

[@thesoup4174]

Ehh this is more reminiscent

[@nutzloseperson8514]

@@GeeBeeOhThree bruh he's totally cheating my guy has 2 exotic armor pieces at the same time.

[@thunderborn3231]

@@antas_demons4963 ? too easy to be an exotic? what about the fact that you literally just buy bad juju

[@Khae.]

Oh this is splendid! That one line from Felwinter about him wanting to sleep hit me hard for some reason...

[@shamoothewizard5763]

I love this story this is probably one of the few “worthy” content of this season.

[@MrNutz87]

one of, if not my FAVORITE character from the lore. glad we got morre ingame info on his life and the reasoning behind siva attacking the iron lords. Great vid as always!

[@vollkornbeet]

Can someone tell me how weapon lore works with canon? Is weapon lore something that is only shown to the Player or is it also something that is given to our Guardian and will other Guardians like here Ana Bray know about the lore in the weapon and/or books

[@Landis963]

I don't think it's explicitly stated. I assume that if there's a plausible excuse for us seeing it, we see it, otherwise we don't see it. E.G. Abide the Return's lore tab has a plausible reason for our presence (namely it takes place in the Tower courtyard), while Amnestia's does not.

[@RhapsodicXStyle07]

See it like this, it exist as a means to further the world building to you and only you. It usually isn't going to drive the story so if you haven't experienced it in game you're brick walled but if you do you learn little about the destiny universe and get a cool gun out of it. Most times non player characters will acknowledge you getting a gun when you get it but thats it. The story is open ended so wether or not you experienced this no big deal. I will say the new quests are limited time to do them so do them asap if you want to see it.

[@MasterDustik]

This was one of my favourite stories in Destiny.

[@aceofredz4680]

Yall remember when dude thought that cayde was rasputin and lost his memories?

[@shadethethief864]

I didn't know nor care about this gun or Felwinter's story but listening to this video in its entirety gave me a reason to care. A reason to try and learn more about Felwinter and Felwinter's lie. So thank you Byf for taking the time to bring us lore. I can't wait for more of your videos.

[@ViperMx2115]

Love your videos, but I have to disagree that Felwinter was a standard Exo that could be taken over by Rasputin and that there could be other Exos that are the same. The Liar lore and the dialogue at the end of The Lie quest suggest that Felwinter was both one of a kind and that he was a self-contained AI housed within an Exo. One of a kind in that the end of quest dialogue says "a tyrant king sent his son" not sons plural; while Felwinter is the focus of the story, nothing suggests that there are any others like him. As for Felwinter being a self-contained AI, the Siddhartha Golem lore tab starts by stating that the command to essentially create Felwinter has no human review and no AI-COM review, so no one except Raputin knows that the order was given. The big clue to Felwinter being a self-contained AI is "If HAMMURABI is ACTIVE and passes human review under context TURING." This gives the notion that there will be a human review of the Siddhartha Golem with the key word being Turing, which points to the Turing Test, which is famously a test of a machine's ability to exhibit intelligent behaviour equivalent to, or indistinguishable from, that of a human. From my POV this lore tab gives the impression that Rasputin put an AI or a sub-mind of himself into an Exo frame with the intent that it be indistinguishable from any other Exo; not Rapsutin, but not entirely separate from him either. There are certainly potential allegories to the God/Jesus relationship.

[@theemotionalsupportfox2890]

I love watching his story vids when I am trying to sleep because it’s easy to listen to and nice to fall asleep too

[@Jethro_Flynn]

Knowing his love for Felwinter, when I was finishing this quest I said to myself "Byf is gonna shit ten pounds of Glimmer when he plays this."

[@DredgenStorm]

I knew that this video was coming but I didn't expect it so soon. And today was the perfect day because I got to listen to this on the drive home from a stressful double shift at work. Once again Byf, you made my day. Keep up the amazing work as Destiny's ultimate Loremaster!!!

[@SusmitDS]

It is heavily implied that Felwinter infact is himself in sense a guardian version of Rasputin.

[@nikik5567]

What like rasputins first liaison?

[@ShinMalphur]

This was amazing. To one day get a lore video in the size and quality of Last Word and Thorn would be incredible!!

[@Forcer69]

*Insert typical “It’s a Sniper Rifle,” meme here*

[@lukefurno1151]

Insert “Universal Remote is Better” meme here

[@adamantiumlife9875]

#downvotetheforcer

[@RavenerAlpha]

As someone who started in Destiny 2 (and picked Exo Warlock) with only a passing knowledge of Rise of Iron this mission was a major "whoa" moment for me. Nice video Byf!

[@xxdrag0n_ki1l3rxx5]

What shader have you got on that Felwinter’s!? It makes it looks so like D1’s version

[@saucybac0n]

It's Ancient Believer from GoS

[@xxdrag0n_ki1l3rxx5]

SaucyBac0n Ahhgg. I thought so 😭 Thanks dude for clarifying ♥️

[@felwinter1861]

Nice! More Felwinter lore, love it! Btw I love the Destiny music in the background. Really makes it all feel even more important!

[@sam_v_murray6037]

how did felwinter remember about the deep stone crypt? or is that something all exo guardians remember from their past?

[@roninazaxar]

All Exos, or at least most of them, have a faint memory of the Deep Stone Crypt, or at least the conflicting emotions associated with it. Some remember peace, some remember a place of war and chaos, and it's still very ambiguous.

[@sam_v_murray6037]

Azaxar is he the only one to have remembered it so vividly though?

[@S3Cs4uN8]

@@sam_v_murray6037 No, I believe Cayde brings it up in one of the lore entries that you get during/after the Ace of Spades quest.

[@theedethproof8147]

All exos dream of the deep stone crypt

[@aSailorFromArgos]

All exos see some memory of it in their dreams. They’re programmed to forget it but it seems like such a PTSD-causing experience that they still have memories in their subconscious that Clovis Bray never could or knew to wipe.

[@nathan143]

your storytelling gives me chills and i am now subbed for it

[@gerardaslisauskas1217]

Who is here after the new seasonal lore? :DD

[@martinj8500]

🤚

[@Kade13]

Even though this season has been kinda lacking and the grind has felt more like a chore, it’s byf lore videos that remind me how much I love the stories and lore of destiny more than anything else. Keep up the good work. It’s always worth the wait

[@darthcolorlesstheblind6717]

Byf had to get his footage in strikes because he's too good at PvP to show on film.

[@MegaJak45]

It really was amazing to see this lore play out. I think Rasputin showing our guardian this history means even more since back in Rise of Iron we put Felwinter's corrupted SIVA form to rest inside the replication chamber.

[@ninjaoforthanc8177]

how very interesting

[@peshkybee7721]

I'm dyslexic and gotta say your ability to read long streams of numbers/letters has me jealous lmao amazing video as always. Keep up the good work!

[@aaronwilliams6165]

I missed all of this, thank you for the video and cut scenes. I'm not sure I can go back now and see these.

[@giordy1662]

It's 11:17PM, tomorrow I have an Italian test, but I'm happy to be awake to hear you Byf

[@astromac13]

Fawkin' shook! So good to finally put a cap on the Felwinter story!

[@Hagosha]

More than the story of Fellwinter, i'm BEYOND EXCITED for more Warframe lore!!! Corpus lore, Beast of Bones lore, Cephalon lore in general, New War stuff, Perhaps going over the Levurian stories from each frame that's come out with one, etc. YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS. But yeah, another fantastic vid, Byf. Thanks for the lore dumps for those of us too lazy to get and/or read everything.

[@TailsNight]

I love these Lorebooks attached to weapons. I also love how much personality Felspring has.

[@0DonnieDark0]

This lore was the best thing that happen this season. Salute, Byf.