Destiny Debates JustPearlyThings On Feminism And Trans Issues

Destiny debates trans issues with JustPearlyThings w/ PlayingWithFire hosted by Adam Sosnick...
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[@destiny]

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[@fl676]

Your are 💯 correct people get distracted by the culture wars cuz the republicans just want to cut taxes for the rich and have no answers to help the country

[@h.9089]

Glad JustPearlyThings and Sydney Watson killed it on that panel. They deserve props.

[@Oppenheimer1967]

@@h.9089 The part where she said women should’ve be able to vote ? Yea she displayed her 60 IQ .

[@ekysnoir]

our strimmer xD

[@crimsonhawk4912]

So you really think trans problems are compaired to beauty pageants. Ill make a note of that

[@gallowsglare]

when pearl said there’s no barriers for women but then argued that she has to fight for opportunities men don’t in sports 💀

[@tarbosh917]

I'm convinced she was tapped by someone in the right-wing social media sphere, got fed the basic talking points, and is just rolling with it. Whenever she talks she never lands a clear point, and often even she seems uncertain about what she's saying. She never cites studies or gets specific. Very broad commentary and 'I'm just asking questions!' vibe that conservatives love so much. Large blank spaces to fill in the gaps with whatever the fuck people want. Almost all of her examples across other content are personal anecdotes which are useless. She also strawmans a lot.

[@Robisquick]

It’s not like sports always existed. The problem isn’t the opportunity is lacking, it’s the ingenuity surrounding how to better market women’s sports. Just because there’s less opportunity somewhere for some demographic doesn’t necessarily point to inequity or unfairness especially systemically. Cause let’s say some ceo lady decided to spend a bunch of money marketing a women’s sports team and introduced a bunch of drama and storylines. Instantaneously this will draw crowds and expand the league and make women’s sports more accessible. So the problem is t some induced barrier, it’s lack of imagination, and the fact that there’s a more interesting thing already available, so unfortunately unless we artificially paid to fill up stadiums and broaden women’s teams without accounting for market capacity, that will be a huge money hole where hundreds of millions will be burned each year trying to make it look even. But there isn’t an actual barrier. It’s simply thag the marketability hasn’t been transformed yet. The opportunity to make it marketable has always been there, but it’s super risky to flush a bunch of money into a system if we don’t know how it can be successfully marketed yet. We have the freedom right now to introduce transformations, but men and women alike aren’t interested in women’s sports. It’s unfortunate, but it’s not inequity.

[@markcurry3083]

A great example because sports are totally recreational and not serious

[@ilovetech8341]

Can you fix your grammar

[@The-Owl-Bard]

Steven is now operating at 100% capacity without Factorio in front of him.

[@kiritimatiswan1986]

The factory must be built

[@johnman9386]

You fool. When factorio is running Steven operates at 170%. Way beyond his human limit. I'm not sure how much of this percentage is enhanced by his lesbian blue hair though.

[@Stue-e]

when your mid debate and invasive thoughts of blue science conveyor throughput enters your mind

[@swazs6092]

@theowlbard7263@@johnman9386 You fool, and even greater fool! Go watch "Destiny FINALLY Brings Out Nebraska Steve" This isn't even 10%

[@DD-st5rh]

He started out either lying or operating at 0% . Virginia has a Republican governor because you democrats lied and tried to cover up a rape that happened in a school bathroom because it was a trans person that committed the rape.

[@hay412]

Pearl just completely glazing over the fact that she was the only woman employed at her corporate job while ignoring the glaring sexism in that alone while trying to give an example of her getting special treatment as a woman in the workspace is laughable

[@danielessex2162]

What corporate job she only ever made videos for YT and tictok.... things she ran and was accused of not treating her employees properly. If she was the only women that's her fault.

[@b.2592]

@@danielessex2162 she sold printers.

[@danielessex2162]

@b.2592 selling shit is classified as a corporate job now? Hell I've sold tons if shit.... now I'm write CEO on my CV

[@AquaMarina.]

She’s moronic and given way to much credit by the host

[@Extracredittttt]

​@@danielessex2162Corporate job doesn't mean leadership in a company Wtf are you talking about lol

[@PEPSEP]

Funny, Pearl says at least 2x "I'd just like to say I don't want to see dicks in the bathroom" first time no one reacted, the second time she had nothing to contribute so she repeats it. It's awesome seeing her try to keep up with people that aren't party girls.

[@traxagenda3445]

because its as simple as that. why say anything else more?

[@ugaboj]

@@traxagenda3445 Its not really an argument. Firstly, it doesn't even make sense - there are no urinals in women's bathrooms, so she won't be seeing dicks. Secondly, you can make the same exact argument about any other characteristic. 'I just don't want to see black skin in the bathroom.' Which really reveals how nonsensical the argument is. You need to actually qualify why you don't want to let this group of people use the bathroom, and why it's not just your own personal hang-up. So, there you go, that's why you need to say more than just a silly throwaway line when arguing something.

[@traxagenda3445]

@@ugaboj or you think too much about things and make things more simple. There's a reason Pearl a woman said destiny sounds like a girl

[@bigboy2217]

@@traxagenda3445 this is an ethics situation, there aren’t any “simple things” going on here. You being a simple person doesn’t make every topic you engage with equally simple.

[@indigo2398]

Did you hear Destiny scream but stop himself. “THEN DONT LOOK AT -.” he was about to do what his friends call “Victim Blaming.” He almost had logic occupy a small portion of his brain.

[@johnleoks7642]

One thing I've noticed about Pearl. She's very good at dodging and even sometimes pretending to not hear a rebuttal made to her point. Like she literally just moves on and ignores it completely.

[@taz014l]

like which points did she dodge? personally i dont see anything wrong with both what Destiny and Pearl saud its more of difference in focal point.

[@johnleoks7642]

@@taz014l The most glaringly obvious one is when Destiny brought up Buck Angel using women's bathroom, which destroys her argument completely, instead of addressing it she just pretends to not hear it and moves on. I don't know if it's bad faith or like Destiny said in a stream a couple days ago, that she's just not very smart.

[@LilEshu808]

@@johnleoks7642 Destiny did not press the point in a correct manner. Most people do not know who Buck Angel is. He should have pulled up an actual photo and showed it and said “Do you want your daughter seeing this guy in the bathroom”

[@haserot]

@@johnleoks7642 or maybe she just doesn't snort adderall every 20 mins like the blue-haired midget? She made good points here. Articulation doesn't always represent someone's intelligence.

[@basedtortellini]

@@LilEshu808how is that an excuse? You can just ask who that is, not pretend not to hear it lmao

[@steveng6704]

Pearl: Women have it easier than men because I had one job once treat me better than all the other men in the office.

[@Thezuule1]

Without even realizing she was THE ONLY WOMAN in the office. They get such special treatment that the company only hired one single female employee... Derp..

[@CMCAdvanced]

Tell me you've never been in the real world without telling me

[@steveng6704]

@@CMCAdvanced True I just live in a basement and never go anywhere. How did you know??? In all seriousness though, we can't invoke personal experiences as the sole argument because someone else could have the opposite experience to Pearl, how did we reconcile that? By data.

[@CMCAdvanced]

@@steveng6704 you're trying to argue against Pearl by using data and you don't see the problem here. I assure you, there is plenty of data in the world on how easy most women have it at work compared to most men

[@steveng6704]

@@CMCAdvanced The data would have to be job by job. We can't count, for example, construction jobs that mainly only employ men.

[@katywoliver1298]

This whole “women have come for me for my money” thing is strictly a upper class issue lmao. You think normal everyday women regularly are like “wow 😍 you make $2,500 every two weeks at xyz??” What’s the point in even arguing about it. It’s not comparable to women being harassed and not being taken seriously at work.

[@tarbosh917]

Lol I had the same thought. Does he really think the target audience of this is multimillionaires that want to hide their wealth? I'm sure guys watching this are trying to hide their wealth when dating -- or lack of it. And to try and use that to refute barriers for women in the workforce --- yikes.

[@hhjhj393]

The less money someone has the more valuable it is.... A man with 1,000,000 dollars who loses half still has 500,000. A man who has worked his whole life to buy a house and he loses it is a big deal lol.

[@Built2kill]

Do you know how many single moms get child support because they "just didn't want to be married" anymore?

[@ilovetech8341]

This comment makes 0 sense

[@animeFAN1743]

My ex was really sweet and kind and always made sure I was heard in groups of mostly men. Halfway through our relationship he started making jokes and comments about me wanting his money, because he had a really good job and was able to live with his parents to save his money. I constantly told him that I liked him for him and honestly didn't care that he had good money. I was happy that I found someone who was GOOD with their money. He had a lot, but he lived humbly. I never asked him for money or to pay for my food or anything. I think deep down he wanted me to be that shallow so that he could have a "I dated a gold digger" story for his boys, because after he broke up with me he tried to act like I was just too crazy and trying to drag him down and tried to take his money. Its wild what the redpill community does to men.

[@redemptionhappens7725]

I’m sorry. Thankfully you never had kids with the loser. Run far far away when you hear any of that retarded red pill shit. It’s toxic and it’s for people who are severely attachment disordered and/or antisocial personality disordered. No normal decent human being believes that utter trash.

[@daviedood2503]

He needed a STORY to cope. That's what people in general do. They tell themselves things to get over THE WHY behind it all. Chicks throw out the word "HE'S A NARCISSIST and he ABUSED MEEEE" like it's candy. I have on average about 37 to 40 women on three different dating apps. Bumble hinge and tinder. Over 97% of them all say that. They say the same thing. It's just a coping mechanism to feel better is all. Doesn't make it true It's like getting ur foot ran over and they're too busy worrying if a NARCISSIST did it rather than what they're gonna do about it.

[@animeFAN1743]

@@daviedood2503 so because chicks do it, it makes it okay ig? Also love the humble brag that you have 40 women talking to you over multiple dating apps. I'm sure you're so much fun to talk to 🙄😂

[@daviedood2503]

@@animeFAN1743 where did I say it was ok? Hmm? Apparently I AM fun to talk to bc quite A LOT of them do it 🙄. U sound some what upset about that for some odd reason madam. That amount of guys aren't talking to u or anything? 🤨 I told u WHY they do what they do bc u commented on a public platform where EVERYONE can respond to your comment. Ur not one of those types that just say things and doesn't like people saying something BACK to you, are u? 🧐 You're also not one of those types to hold the other side just as accountable and it some how ANGERS you ..ARE YOU???? 🤣

[@animeFAN1743]

@@daviedood2503 lmfao just from the way you write on here, theres no way you are juggling 40 women on multiple sites... I'm totally fine with people responding to a public comment I made, its just funny that your comment is basically saying "well women do it, so hes coping, oh well" lol. Like what a typical online male response; to either blame the women or to minimize the damage men cause. I was describing my experience on a video, I was not looking for someone to justify why it happened 😂😂

[@joshcornell4110]

Pearl finally meeting a woman that can beat her in a debate

[@h.9089]

Except Destiny didn't. He stumbled when talking about Andrew Tate and college.

[@istanformarzipan]

not only a woman, but a blue haired woman

[@PatrickOMulligan]

@@h.9089 they said can, not did.

[@actualperson9628]

Destiny hasn’t heard about Loudin county?

[@chroniccomplainer3792]

I hate the destiny girl jokes but this one is good....

[@user-gx9xi8rk6l]

Host: We shouldn’t focus on trans convos bc China is beating us. Also host: 2 Trans people😲😲

[@foodsupply5071]

It also seems very ironic to me to be a podcast host of all things and to complain about people talking too much about nice but useless stuff.

[@Luvanweed]

China is literally facing an unprecedented crisis right now but this guy thinks its beating the US lmao

[@ll2323]

I can’t believe he thinks they’re beating us. Aside from the economic crisis that’s happening, there isn’t even enough women for every man in that country. The one child policy really fucked them over. And if u want to have kids, good luck affording anything more than a one bedroom apartment or child care.

[@Mant111]

That's not what he meant by that, but keep on lying.

[@TGiSHIllidanServer]

@@Mant111 Mad cope.

[@taylanator2000]

Lost count of how many times Destiny blew the panels minds... every few minutes he's introducing basic shit to these people

[@kevin933]

Pearl's formula: Read some ''stats'' with no context, or expansion. Say an anecdote/opinion, change her pitch inflection to try and confidently pass it off as absolute without doing any of the work Close the argument with a condescending smile to assert that she's already correct.

[@finnyoung2911]

Halfway through this video, it’s clear how simple Pearl’s arguments and answers are. So the fact that people who oppose her views struggle in a debate with her is kinda… mind blowing.

[@minhocho5487]

As stupid as her arguments were, they are very media trained and they know specific talking points they can use. Also that is a argument in favor of Destiny who did say that all this deplatforming leads to progressives not being able to defend their own arguments

[@88mphDrBrown]

That's literally what I just commented. She offers nothing of substance.

[@benny399]

I think it's how oblivious (not sure if that is the correct word) she pretends to behave that kinda throws people off. She feels disingenuous.

[@RyanPhoenixAZ]

@@minhocho5487 The problem is that Destiny was just using the same talking points but in a liberal way

[@RyanPhoenixAZ]

@@benny399 I would say the same about Destiny's answers. This conversation was just a bunch of anecdotes on both sides

[@saiyamoru]

28:01 - "I don't know, I feel like a lot of the reasons I do things that I do is like, I was always trying to like, make my dad proud, I don't know." Girl is TELLING on herself. And here she is as a grown-ass adult still trying to get male validation and approval by pandering to their echo chambers. JustPearlyThings is the walking epitome of pick-me culture.

[@BombedOut]

And you're the epitome of a sexist.

[@saiyamoru]

@@BombedOut sorry, pearl, nobody made you play a walking stereotype except for you! if calling them like I see 'em makes me sexist, sign me up for the next panel, I'm sure I'll fit right in. :))

[@brittney8116]

AMEN

[@christinad6650]

That’s why she’s moved on to blk men. They will pander to her b.s…

[@Landry16]

I was thinking the same thing when she said that

[@twin0215]

When he obliterated them with that , 'I just treat women like human beings' line💀

[@user-jj7lo3sp2n]

In all reality, that is the best and most efficient way to do it. From personal experience, just talking to them like a regular person that you aren't trying to fuck tonight gets you really far. Especially if its someone pretty because they know how to weed out the guys that just wanna fuck.

[@torihawthorne6732]

Destiny is 100% right about women dealing with creepy bosses

[@blackgateboxingxuanmenquan6407]

The other side is men dealing with irrational, bitchy bosses who don’t have the emotional stability required to lead and so turn the whole office into a passive aggressive swamp of empathy and estrogen.

[@Aunt-B]

​@@blackgateboxingxuanmenquan6407congratulations, you've discovered that two things can be true at the same time 👏👏

[@blackgateboxingxuanmenquan6407]

@@Aunt-B You couldn’t resist the clap back and the opportunity to nag, could ya? Nag away slayqween. Nag away.

[@Aunt-B]

@@blackgateboxingxuanmenquan6407 in all technicality that wasn't nagging it was patronizing.

[@blackgateboxingxuanmenquan6407]

@@Aunt-B Men are patronizing. Women are nags. And now you’re neurotically nitpicking about being a nag. Can’t help yourself.

[@dandrechesterfield5411]

As a fellow red piller I’ve always felt like not only is pearl very sheltered and inexperienced in life I think she’s actually just not all that educated in general. She’s like a female sneako as far as intelligence goes

[@stopthecap1]

At least sneako reflects and entertains other points of views (eg: young don & his 1min podcast)

[@vendetadesign]

@@stopthecap1 read ur comment over again.

[@ANTIStraussian]

Are you into incel stuff

[@stopthecap1]

@@vendetadesign what's your point

[@Darm0k]

Sheako

[@akiameaart]

Pearl is like a robot she just repeats a few phrases "can I just say, I dont want to see dicks in the bathroom" x 3 and "I'm thinking about the locker room you walk around naked" like unprompted... It was so weird

[@OD186]

It’s a real issue, there’s a reason men and womens restrooms are separate, why make it easier for people with Ill intentions to commit to those intentions, you want young women to be uncomfortable using locker facilities and restrooms because they can’t even have privacy from someone with the opposite reproductive organs? That’s disgusting, it’s important to be grounded in reality when we deal with mass amounts of people, you can be whoever/whatever you want behind closed doors by yourself, hell even in public, but when you subject people to accommodating to the reality you choose to live within, it becomes problematic, cause no one owes you the respect or acknowledgement of whoever or whatever you THINK you are

[@akiameaart]

@@OD186 i literally agree but my point was she just kept repeating the same phrase over and over.

[@manderly33]

@@OD186 It’s not a real issue. At all. A) of all, women’s bathrooms use stalls. B) most locker rooms I’ve been in, most people are not naked. C) trans people are already intimidated by these scenarios. They are doing everything they can to avoid being naked in front of other people. Also they’re a tiny percentage of the population, so it’s unlikely there will be ANY trans women in any given locker room. D) trans people are not more likely to assault people than anyone else. If anyone is, it’s cis men. Cis men do not need to pretend to be trans to commit SA, because mostly they assault people they know: spouses, friends, employees, their children or children they know. And even if they did, the problem is still CIS MEN, not trans women who live as women 24/7.

[@zaczeen1121]

​@@manderly33 The problem is, by legally allowing trans (who are born men) to go to female toilets, it makes all the more easier for men to pretend to be one to go there. And EVEN if they don't pretend to be one, it would still make it EASIER for them to enter female toilets WITHOUT facing any serious threat from the law OR the women in the toilet.

[@Guerillatoker]

@@zaczeen1121 Bathrooms are no better as a location to commit sexual assault than any other; arguably its worse, as it is a public space where there is a decent expectation that other people will be present before or enter during the assault.

[@theresefrancis9283]

I agree with the child pageants point. It has always horrified me parents were allowed to sexualize their kids on TLC and stuff and people were "fans." If you aren't upset about those things being allowed, why are you now angry at drag kids? It's literally the same exact thing, different context. Both are evil, but you don't get to cherry pick like that. Just no.

[@missinterpretation4984]

@@Durzo1259 And pageants groom little girls to be sex objects which leads to trauma and a life of sexual abuse, confusion and baggage. Half naked cheerleaders, hooters, Victorias Secret all being displayed in public “family friendly” places does the same thing, grooming both little girls and boys to have awful views about sex. Open grooming is everywhere in our culture, you just don’t care as long as it’s training girls to be pretty little sex objects and boys to be conquerors. Heterosexual of course. 🙄

[@Lord_Vadr]

People don’t want certain others seeing them naked, that’s a cancerous concept to Destiny? Yes the pageant shows are historically creepy. I’d go more radical and point out that so is cheerleading, much of child dance, and some gymnastics.

[@Lord_Vadr]

There some of those mouth breathing kids all grown up on this panel… oh boy

[@theresefrancis9283]

@@Lord_Vadr Oh for sure. Cheerleading and gymnastics have also been iffy to me. Having a kid feel normal in skimpy "leotards" and stuff is just a huge red flag. There are countless stories of coaches and doctors for those teams sexually assaulting the kids and stuff. All the kids I knew when I was younger that did those things 100% have issues and are over sexualizing themselves now as adults. You can't be surprised your kid is doing OF when you pimped them out when they were younger.

[@Sakosaga]

It's not the same thing at all. Kids are not confused. We are created a mindset Within our community at this point that is creating confusion for the generation of mental health which will in turn lead to more money. The amount of people who are trans and do drag stuff is so small that it doesn't affect day to day life. Introducing this to your child instead of actually grooming them down a straight path is conflicting because as a parent you want to give them tools so that they aren't doing anything that can hurt them 10-30 years later. If they want to make those Decisions, that's on them you did your job, but getting something like a bunch of tattoos , you have to understand it's going to be hard to find a high level professional job to hire you. Introducing your kids to drugs and violence is the same thing it will drastically change how your child will grow up and interact with people. We have studies on stuff like this and we see this in day to day life all the time. Idk why destiny is arguing that point because people WERE and still are against drag shows. They were created forever ago for not the reason kids should ever want to be involved in. There is nothing wrong with being gay or trans but conversations like this is what's actually harming kids along side drugging them with a bunch of pills they may or may not need. We are just now really learning the affects of all these things because proper research wasn't being done but now we see that it's actually negative impacts than what we thought. I'm a pretty open minded person and I can clearly see that we shouldn't be doing this these. I more so sit in the middle with alot of things in life and try to see both sides but this is one of those things where I don't see anything positive at all.

[@jeremyh8833]

“I think it’s easier to be a woman because when I was the only woman in an office I was given special treatment” why were you the only woman working in that office?

[@nunyabiznez354]

Because not every office has cubicles and shit. Small construction/mechanical workshops only have very few people and only need one or two people in the office to manage phone calls or do transactions/accounting. Most are hired because of nepotism.

[@GlassMelon]

While the other girl says that a women can tell if they’re being promoted based on their own merits or if they’re just hot. They make no sense.

[@othmaneelmansouri6314]

Don't bother, conservatives can only think one step for every issue, nothing beyond that.

[@alexschneider8494]

Maybe because a lot of women weren’t interested in fucking working there? lol

[@CMCAdvanced]

Considering most office work is done by women, what's your point?

[@supadupadupakunt278]

How has Pearl managed to brain-worm her way to this level? Her arguments are so feeble

[@marylandsworld3428]

It’s always easier for them to talk about attractive women, not all women or young ladies are attractive and their options are limited.

[@wouldyounot7971]

Someone needed to mention this. Incels be talking about how all women have it easy but theyre really just referring to attractive women

[@hannahmacdonald9040]

Was looking for this comment! When he said attractive women have it harder I was like....um.... no I'm pretty sure its non conventionally attractive women who get it the hardest...But again silenced by beauty

[@TheCameron4life]

How does Pearl base her career in relationship advice when it seems she’s never been on a date in her life.

[@LipSyncLover]

I can practically smell the virginity. And I mean a 💯 virginity never held hands sort

[@TheCameron4life]

@@LipSyncLover it’s so glaringly blatant

[@ntitus3025]

😂🤣 WAIT, she's never been on a date? I could only tell males are not going out of their way to talk to her, but virgin? Didn't she say she had a boyfriend? Anyway, everything thing she says is a lie so 🤷

[@TheCameron4life]

@@ntitus3025 with that personality? Idk

[@The-Oneness11]

@@LipSyncLover She might be a secret thot. Lol.

[@ravenwing4472]

Destiny literally shuts them down on the trans issue and grooming. They full on had to pivot cause he was right. Conservatives have no plans that benefit working americans.

[@zaczeen1121]

"Conservatives have no plans that benefit working americans.". You interviewed every single conservatives throughout every single state/neighbourhood/home in America?

[@ab3240]

@@zaczeen1121 🤡

[@princeboyd3795]

​@@zaczeen1121 maybe not but when you look at the people making our legislation they certainly arent much help

[@triistan624]

@@zaczeen1121it’s pretty clear he’s being emotional and opinionated there. he’s not even trying to present it as fact

[@KyleS3m3noff]

"Well let's leave that there..."

[@Anshul-sl3ij]

You're absolutely right on the workplace thing. I personally faced this issue at university because I was better than some of my profs. They always try to show extra bit of interest but once you deny their advances they turn against you and basically bully you mentally, and they're very clever at hiding the bullying by giving good grades so nobody can prove anything against them. It took a shitty toll on my mental health during my master's so much so that I didn't even want to leave my room at one point because of anxiety and panic attacks. It's good to see someone pointing it out. Thanks. 💖

[@HJ-lq9qq]

I'm sorry that happened to you. Something similar happened to me in art school as well. Sending love 💝

[@chrissywarmington2657]

@@HJ-lq9qqsending love and support to both of you girls. I am so sorry you had to experience that, but I personally appreciate you having the strength to share such an experience for the purpose of educating. 💖

[@Robisquick]

Dang that sucks. Did this happen for you with many or most male professors? Or just a couple? I always say that it really sucks that the lousy men make decent men look really bad optically. The small percentage of men who are the abusers, the violent offenders, the sexual pests and predators, strike fear and resentment, understandably, in women.

[@thedarkstar7045]

They're predators. Report them.

[@pfffff]

Are we not going to mention that Pearl just said she was the only women working at this sales job... Weird.

[@deadflake]

This wasn’t a debate this was a bunch of people agreeing with eachother and a blue haired guy pushing back occasionally.

[@urasma2004]

the dating topic seems like an insight into american culture rather than some great universal truths

[@Prague3203]

Western views, not just American Culture; its just more out in the open in places like the US and the UK

[@isaacentebi7383]

everybody men and woman completely forget about anything related to redpill, dating, etc when they start interacting like a normal human being in the world. Destiny is the only one giving valuable advice imo, which is be a normal person that is kind and has his/her shit together, that really is everything one needs to know.

[@CatieAndHerCats]

@@isaacentebi7383 Right. These conversations only happen on the internet. Recently, they have been leaking more into main stream media but still, the average person isn't going to look up a bunch of red pill/blue pills stuff. It's so silly.

[@froglifes6829]

@@Prague3203 Its not "western views"". Trust me theres plenty of countries in the west that would be cancelled if americans knew how their society works and how they do dating.

[@char1211]

​@@Prague3203 Oh dude it's not western culture in general, here in Sweden "dating" wasn't even a thing until Tinder got popular around 2016

[@alexgrissom7251]

I'm a conservative and I find myself having common grounds with you on redpill delusions and many hypocracy we see in today's issues both sides of the isle. Cheers my boi!

[@geinikan1kan]

Just met these people. This is intelligent debate. That guy Destiny really articulated the right wing thing with niche controversies. Just tuned in for the first time. Very impressed. Thanks.

[@reginejones2402]

I only came here for destiny lol I like how he talks, he isnt talking nonsense . Well other then the bathroom comment. He has a brain

[@AngryDad.]

He's so far off base tho

[@user-on9yz2wz9q]

Dudes a nut, saying conservatives weren’t talking about kid drag shows in the past like that was actually happening on the scale it is today and in the same argument saying conservatives don’t have any economic plans…like wtf. Look at any major Democrat run city and then look at his hair color. Says a lot

[@johmayo7042]

Destiny is the only one who had any sense, who made any sense. Tate has incriminated himself. There is video evidence, audio evidence, of Tate HIMSELF, laying out his Loverboy Model of sex trafficking. It isn't Destiny's job to hold JPT's hand through life or even through this debate so she can better grasp the concept of sex trafficking. And why should anyone entertain the notion of Tate's innocence for a second, or indulge in conspiracy theories against Tate, when the evidence is present? It really is disingenuous and actually quite dangerous. Good on Destiny.

[@dropian]

You missed the point Destiny made. He stated that TLC for 7 yesrs ran toddlers in tiaras where 4 year olds would be placed in swimsuits and cheerleading outfits to be presented as "beautiful" to a live audience and judges and the show faced 0 public backlash. The GOP quite literally doesn't have a economic base as they aren't building infrastructure, reducing regulations for child labour, and reducing taxes for the wealthy. Please tell me the economic policy as employed by the GOP.

[@Joseph.M.]

This pearl girl is the epitome of "pick me"

[@mikasasukasa4479]

i laughed so hard i almost spit my tequila out

[@theophilegaudin2329]

"pick me" isn't bad per se. It's ok to think about how to be a good partner for people you're attracted to, as a man or a woman. Pearly's problem is her caricatural, batshit opinions, not that she's a "pick me".

[@onesquirrel2713]

The pick-me girl is the female equivalent of a male feminist.

[@HexagonSun990]

​@@theophilegaudin2329 no it's because she's a liar grifter lmao

[@Bickle121]

She’s the girl who tags along with the “bros” to the strip club and thinks it makes her cool, she offers nothing

[@gangang69]

Pearl looking real quiet when the smart people show up😂😂

[@blackwater7183]

You are setting the bar very low for "smart people". 😅

[@totallyrandom4816]

Smart? 🤣 🤣 please enlighten me on how this blue haired simp is Smart

[@gangang69]

@@totallyrandom4816 Well you calling him a simp when he gets laid more than you is known as ignorance either you don't know or you're oblivious to the fact that he in fact makes more money than you is more successful and educated than you, yet you choose to fit your narrative which you're entitled to your ignorance, but even if he was a simp he'd still have a better life than you. Also Pearl only whines can't you hear her annoying voice whine like a bitch. And she even admitted to not knowing anything. She's a middle class suburban white neighborhood girl she has no experience in the real world only in her bubble safe place she grew up.

[@totallyrandom4816]

@fuckdahatersss you talking like you know how many girls I've been with. You have that loose vagina energy ! 🤣

[@MENACE-km6bd]

@@ApparentlyTemp He's smarter than her. She says nothing.

[@AnubisEternally]

Pearl has such basic level takes that have no actual thought behind them. Just mind blowing.

[@JJKillerElite]

She basically uses talking points like almost every other red piller

[@J97H51]

Man, the red pill talks a lot about "bots" but they fail to recognise: if the only sentences you as the general redpillar can form are common redpill quotes, analogies, statistics you heard from your teacher (podcasters), generic lines of thought and logic to where you agree with everything in the redpill and disagree with everything in the blue pill... can you not see you too are a bot. Just with diffferent programming. You are a redpill bot and have never formed an original sentence 😂 redpill bots are the equal and opposite force to sjw bots

[@fnordiumendures138]

Because it is pretty basic: she doesn't want to encounter swinging dicks as she goes about her business. It's for women like her we HAVE gender separated locker rooms, and why flashing is illegal... otherwise. I mean, it's that simple.

[@Eiramzify]

Explain this take? Pearly: well, because.

[@ambientjohnny]

Every single "trans woman" is MALE. MALES do not belong in FEMALE-ONLY spaces. What is it you don't understand?

[@HyenaMeat]

18:25 “depends on what out come you want” *minecraft villager noise*

[@suekim1147]

As a woman struggling real hard to get a leg up in my career I just put it out there that it is not clear at ALL if I'm being given a handout because I'm a woman diversity hire or because of my skill... there have been times I worked harder than my coworkers but still got a handout and not a real reward for my efforts. I have multiple male coworkers who only contact me to "network" who I have realized probably just like the young female attention. The other woman on the panel THINKS she can tell but that must all just be bravado. It's impossible to tell someone's true intentions, ESPECIALLY in a professional setting where they have a strong motivation to conceal it and have more life experience than you.

[@AngryDad.]

Well blame feminism. They created these ridiculous quotas

[@suekim1147]

@@AngryDad. the quotas have never been a problem, so I'm not blaming them....

[@AngryDad.]

@@suekim1147 🤦‍♂️

[@suekim1147]

@@AngryDad. first off the quotas you speak of (affirmative action) were laws originally put in place to help black people during the civil rights movement, so you can thank John F Kennedy for that. Feminism had nothing to do with it. Second off my comment isn't a complaint that I am in a male dominated industry. I'm grateful for the chance to even be here working for my own money. Without feminism I would still be trapped in the kitchen. Removing women from male dominated spaces would only fix the problem for men. My complaint is about the men in male dominated spaces who are blind to the achievements of women because they think with their dick and not with their heads.

[@AngryDad.]

@@suekim1147 so then don't complain. You want unfair advantages

[@angie-pun]

Honestly this just proves Pearl just throws shit-stirring, simplistic arguments but she doesn't explain anything further. It's like she's nervous of making a stupid argument. The lady off camera had much more insightful things to say.

[@stevejones5075]

Ironically I think thats why Pearl think it's easier to be a woman lol. She just trash talks woman as a woman and it gets all the conservatives to rally around her as some profound critical thinker. She's probably like "Wow, this shilling stuff is easy"

[@seriouslyshortofnormal925]

@@stevejones5075 No one would confuse Pearl with an intellectual, and even then truth is truth no matter who speaks it.

[@stevejones5075]

@@seriouslyshortofnormal925 but people take what she says seriously, you cant deny that.

[@Oppenheimer1967]

@@stevejones5075 Pearl is for the extreme red pillers. She says the things out loud like “women shouldn’t be allowed to vote” that many of them believe but won’t say publicly.

[@seriouslyshortofnormal925]

@stevejones5075 Sure, and I would argue that she means for her words to be taken seriously. The jury is still out on whether it's a grift or not but so far I haven't seen anything that makes me think she's bad faith. She wants to be taken seriously and I think she should be, and that isn't accomplished with blanket dismissal just because her arguments are surface-level normie takes. Polarization serves no one.

[@Sp00nz4hire]

If you watched the whole stream, this host was terrible. He talked more than the other three combined, and not only that but he would interrupt them to talk about himself.

[@randomyoutubecommenterr]

A majority of moderators/hosts on these panels these days

[@BirthdayFreak67]

Funnily enough Destiny isnt hosting this conversation 😂

[@kmono5410]

Hosts with main character syndrome are the worst

[@patrickmacvane5725]

Everything pearl says is directed toward her making KZbin shorts or furthering her red pill channel. You can literally guess what she's going to say to every answer, the most red pill friendly answer to everything. I wonder if she's really like this cuz it's so curated

[@chrissywarmington2657]

I HAVE to know if it’s all an act. Although the fact that she’s single with no kids, directly against her own “beliefs”, would make sense. What man worth his salt would want to reproduce with her :(

[@maritaberger4593]

I'm one of 5% girls in my Computer Science degree and the issue destiny stated is EXACTLY my experience. I have no idea whether I can do shit or not even though I know how this dynamics works... So no, women don't inherently know everything.

[@docbp87]

I love when Steve "debates" people who haven't spent more than 30 seconds researching or even thinking about the topic at hand.

[@danhill3302]

Their arguments are so insanely reductive and maybe the worst part is, they are proud of it and don't think they ever need to change.

[@northboundw5248]

Daily reminder that these people are the equivalent of demonmama, but on the right

[@BeepBop322]

not all change is needed or good, you progressives need to learn to pump the brakes before you go off the rails... kinda like how you guys currently are. especially with the trans topic, the large majority of the world thinks your all delusional lunatics (they might be right). harsh truth

[@mikestuhrberg9760]

Totally you should watch destiny debate someone like Ryan dawson it's even worse.

[@ash.r9k]

Cry about it

[@Mant111]

You'd think that if those arguments were really so reductive the opposition would have an easy time debunking them, but lo and behold, no answer from the trans activists.

[@simonsayso7948]

I'm 40 years old and people have been complaining about young pageant shows being creepy my whole life. Not that they're the same thing at all, they can be, but not every pageant has kids dressed up like adults. That's a newer thing or at least it has gotten worse over time

[@IForgetWhatISay]

What are you even saying Simon? Did you forget to take your meds?

[@simonsayso7948]

@@IForgetWhatISay did you watch the video? Destiny says he doesn't believe some people actually care about the kids because they never complained about child pageant shows. Keep up, lil buddy

[@simonsayso7948]

@@IForgetWhatISay it's even one of the opening clips, lol

[@rhuonaChanel]

I'm surprised Destiny said that because child pageant shows and even child reality TV shows have received a lot of bashing in recent years, even before the blowout from the recent trans issues

[@tarbosh917]

There have been complaints but not the level of vitriol we see today from the right wing media and legislation. People are frothing at the mouth over drag queen story hour and making complaining about it a part of their personality. Today when you hear someone make the case that children are being sexualized you'll hear about teachers teaching empathy, drag shows, and trans people existing at all. They never talk about child beauty pageants which is the point Destiny is making. If you polled 100 conservatives for Family Feud with the question 'what should be banned if we want to stop the sexualization of children', child beauty pageants wouldn't be on the board.

[@Dovahkiif]

The problem with this justpearlythings girl is that it feels like she does everything in her control to avoid admitting that there are negatives to being a woman, she said there are no barriers for women in life and then went on to say that there are still problems that women have to deal with lmao it's all word games and virtue signalling.

[@herrdoktornapy6835]

When she says barrier. It's barrier of entry. Not random stupid shot that happens in your life

[@SlyNine]

Such as. Name the barriers.

[@honestgenz4413]

@@herrdoktornapy6835 Yeah but men are talking about these random ass superficial things and making them an issue.

[@bajjanitor]

I think it's easy to understand her position regarding that even if it wasn't perfectly articulated. Basically that when it comes to situations where you might be treated differently due to your gender; treatment by teachers, job applications, stopped by police and court proceedings, having a public voice, stuff like that, then she thinks you'd have an easier time being a woman than a man. But that doesn't mean there's no woman issues like having periods, harder time getting strong and shit like that. Basically that regarding the things we can impact as a society women have it easier.

[@HisDivineShado]

There is probably a lot of money to be made as a woman telling incels it's not their fault. As Andrew Tate shows, you can be a complete moron and still dupe them into giving you money.

[@allahbless2278]

The thing about Pearl is I feel she just mimics points from other people in the red pill community without actually giving it much thought or trying to take the devil's advocate approach to her stances and actually trying to make it make sense

[@antoineb9371]

Yep she just copies and paste

[@Anteksanteri]

The red pill community? Like andrew tate, sneako and sargon? EDIT: probably blaire white and MRA people.

[@SlyNine]

@@Anteksanteri you probably think you said something clever there. Like you owned somebody or something. I called an argument a name, ha ha I won.

[@SubJStan]

The Candace Owens method

[@Astrussy]

That’s unfortunately most people including influencers and polictical streamers. Everything is copy and pasted without any critical thought. I’m sure half of them don’t even understand what they’re saying, and they get views and money so they don’t care

[@-Azure.EXE-]

I'm fairly certain Pearly has actually said that she only makes redpill content because it gets views.

[@j.mariee6038]

Definitely!

[@Mant111]

Proof? Sounds like bullshit from angry leftards

[@gumpcs]

She didn’t say it outright but it was heavily implied if I recall correctly

[@michaelh878]

Yes she said she tried a lot of different types of content and then her reacting to Kevin Samuels got a lot of views.

[@LeSatan]

mmm

[@PatfromMania]

(Referring to Pearl) "She's a pretty reasonable girl." Yeah okay dude 😂

[@erisgh0sted961]

Wasn't he being sarcastic?

[@Guerillatoker]

Destiny: Its hard as a woman to know if their position in osciety is meritocratic or based on sexual desire? Panelists: Its hard as a man to know if they want to date you for your money or your personality? Same thing apparently.

[@IvkovicMladen]

Shoutout to the guy breathing into the mic the whole time

[@LORFCASTER]

FUCKIN NOSE BREATHIN INTO MY FUCKIN FACE THE WHOLE FUCKIN TIME DUDE ! lol This is why someone testing / monitoring audio is crucial.

[@markstriker925]

@@LORFCASTER😂😂😂

[@JinJiyanAzadii]

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@isitluk]

Friend of mine got harassed by a boss at work and went to HR and the guy just lied 😂 it does not always work going to HR when you’re a woman

[@mcbean1]

friend of mine (was wrongly) accused and lost their job because the person went to HR...it goes both ways

[@natedadank4870]

@@mcbean1 same. The guy had a stroke and lost control of his left arm. He was accused of slapping someonses butt with said arm he can't even use. Fired regardless.

[@LeSatan]

yups

[@Activated62]

Unfortunately harassment situations are hard to do something about, as it's often word vs word..

[@Mastikator]

HR exists to protect the corporation, they'll fire or reprimand whoever is the most convenient. The notion that it can be used as a weapon against men or to defend those assaulted by coworkers is pure fantasy

[@Femmeaesthetic]

one thing I disagreed with pearl the most is "women have easier life" in the debate, yet at the same time she's against trans women in sports with bio women. It shows that both men and women can have struggles in life, it doesn't say who has the most easiest.

[@Thefriendlystranger3]

This was really refreshing to watch.

[@rogersmith996]

*Gun free zone laws* Conservatives: Criminals won't adhere to these gun free zone signs. *Trans Bathroom Laws* Conservatives: Criminals will totally adhere to these restrictive public bathroom signs.

[@Mant111]

That's not the point. The point is minimizing risk. Pit women and men together in the same bathrooms, you're maximizing risk. By keeping the division between the sexes when it comes to bathrooms you might not stop that 1x crazy psycho, but you will stop those 99 cowardly opportunistic rapists and molesters.

[@rogersmith996]

@@Mant111 Regardless, rape and murder are still illegal. Trans bathroom laws aren't going to significantly decrease either of those. So your point is kinda moot..

[@Mant111]

@@rogersmith996 Sure they will. Remove the chance, the opportunity, and you will reduce some of those crimes happening. It's just common sense.

[@rogersmith996]

@@Mant111 The chance and opportunity is already there with or without those laws. Again, your point is moot :/

[@Mant111]

@@rogersmith996 No it's not. Because with the law they won't be legally inside the women's restroom, meaning that a huge amount of chances and opportunities will be denied. It's basic 2+2=4.

[@KVNTNK]

The problem with pearly is, every point she makes is incredibly over simplified. A lot of what she says could be so easily dismantled with proper debate. That’s coming from a man by the way.

[@jimbothegymbro7086]

what's she meant to do then? write an essay and read it like a script to prove a point? you gotta condense it down for people to understand it even a little

[@spycemyster8198]

@@jimbothegymbro7086 she's not doing it for the sake of brevity, she's oversimplifying. For example, if someone were to ask why the justice system disproportionately puts black people in prison, an oversimplified and misleading answer would be "because black people commit more crime". Though it's technically true, there are other systemic reasons that cause this such as socioeconomic status, internal biases, disproportionate policing of poor neighborhoods, etc.

[@misssummersalt]

That and she's arguing in bad, no, terrible faith.

[@kkadz]

@@jimbothegymbro7086 rofl ok

[@CuZtuga]

@@jimbothegymbro7086 Bro, come on, man.

[@ryanjohnston3229]

I am glad I found this! There needs to be straight up liberals vs conservatives! I have been looking for exactly this type of content. It's shocking how close all are views are, and how are empathy gets hijacked by are choosen side. 🍻

[@danielcelaj194]

Adam loves hearing himself speak.

[@docdex5802]

"the manager gets fired" lol nah bro get off the internet in the real world that shit happens all the time ive personally seen it happen 3 times and none of the mangers got fired

[@thehumanoid6543]

In the words of sneako "she's a bot". You just know her opinion on everything. And I mean everything. She will come in with minimal research and just be like "well to counter your data oriented argument I shall now give you personal experience"

[@Ahrbok]

Or the classic "I dont like studies because they will tell you water isnt wet"

[@Activated62]

Sneako is the real bot tbh, I don't think this girl is that bad, she says basic stuff but that's the whole point when the other side is radical.

[@Mastikator]

It's not even her personal experience, she'll make something up on the spot. She's a grifter through and through, not an honest bone in her body.

[@MrColdwilliam]

This is my EXACT argument against feminism. This is 100% how feminism operates - even in delivering "facts", it's packaged in emotion driven, rapid fire diatribe and when you take a moment to breath and recognize it, you can present real data from numerous reputable sources in academia, social sciences, statistics and onward that dispute the claims made.

[@Discombobulate453]

I find that men won't really fully understand the reservations women have about the potential threat of a pre op trans, biological male walking into a women's locker room, versus the non existent threat of a biological female walking into a men's locker room.

[@jakiic23]

Loudon County, a boy claiming non binary wearing girls clothes in 2 cases voilently sexually assaulted girls using their identity as a cover. And it was pushed to the side and covered up bc no one wanted to touch that. I think, as a woman, if i knew that a trans person would be punished to the fullest extent of the law and not gunna be defended by media and politicians then id be far more welcoming. But for now, it makes me very uncomfortable. There's nothing stopping a predator from taking advantage, and that's the issue.

[@TheSinsOfAvarice97]

Dude says china's lapping USA in the gdp as if their people aren't starving dying and whole city blocks are getting destroyed. China is imploding😂😂

[@ExeErdna]

True, just add China to another commie L "it'll work next time, guys?"

[@darkknight8828]

And USA has a bigger economy than China

[@jimbothegymbro7086]

America isn't doing too much better right now tbh, just swap out starvation with drug induced self destruction and hopelessness causing self unaliving as well as a dropping birth rate that a screwed housing market isn't helping

[@TheSinsOfAvarice97]

@Dark Knight Too true plus their is so many freedoms Americans have no way no one's taking that lmak

[@TheSinsOfAvarice97]

@ExeErdna Fr somehow having a tyrannical government with severe communism never pans out 🤨

[@acason4]

“What did you disagree with Pearl about because she’s a pretty reasonable girl”… 😆🤦🏼‍♂️ Is she really though??? She’s basically Andrew Tate in a woman’s body. She doesn’t think women should be able to vote bro, so my apologies for not taking anything she says serious. 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@jimbothegymbro7086]

I mean I'm all for the old sign up for the draft or pay taxes to vote, you've got skin in the game and actually give a damn

[@88mphDrBrown]

More like someone with an 80 iq trying to repeat Tate's arguments. As shitty as Tate is, he's very intelligent and can make complex nuanced arguments. Pearl predominantly just makes oversimplified one sentence assertions.

[@acason4]

@@jimbothegymbro7086 Yeah, it seems to me that it’s a fundamental right of any tax paying, law abiding citizen. That said, I’m certain that voting right should never be based on gender, creed, ethnicity, dogma, etc.

[@Oppenheimer1967]

@@jimbothegymbro7086 With nuclear weapons, there’s no realistic scenario where a draft would ever happen.

[@Dizzifying1]

@@Oppenheimer1967 Surely young Russian men are saying the same things assuredly to eachother as we speak...

[@FantasyFae]

the girl that said "you would know" is not smart enough to have earned any kind of merit outside her looks.

[@arrowhead697]

Why is saying cis and trans that big a deal he was obviously making a point? This is even used in chemistry.

[@elonreeve5113]

Pearl is objectively quite dim Both the guys sitting at the ends may be dimmer

[@tiaramonet7220]

What does Pearl know? She's extremely uneducated, but still puts herself in positions to speak on subjects that require knowledge. She reminds me of that little kid that interrupts adults speaking just to say something dumb.

[@lav7161]

18:30 Pearl hasn't downloaded that answer from her RP buddies yet so she stayed silent.

[@Andi-niania]

I love how everyone smiles and nods at the wild idea to question women on their relationship with their father like it's a red flag to be directly impacted by a shitty man. Yeah let's hold women with bad or absent fathers responsible and not the MEN actually doing the shitty parenting or the abandonment. Between the inane arguments, the oversimplification, the contradictions, this whole conversation was so frustrating to watch but that bit particularly stuck out to me because of how crazy it was.

[@TheXploitable]

I think its more of a "chip on the shoulder" thing. Like a lot of serial killers had deep issues with their mothers. Just an example but sometimes family relationships can indicate a greater pattern of behavior.

[@whasian1487]

Oversimplified. Some men want to be in their children's lives, but a spiteful ex-wife keeps the children away. Then the children are raised by a spiteful woman. People raised in single parent households often have a very different idea of what norms compared to people raised in a nuclear family setting.

[@rmercedes971]

Not trying to sound callous, but it’s up to us (anyone that has any type of trauma) to do what we can to heal the wound, resolve what is getting in the way of our growth and move forward. This doesn’t mean it should be easy, or that compassion and grace shouldn’t be granted. But at the end of the day this trauma is affecting us (the victim) more than anyone, and you are the only one that can decide if you want to let it control your life or arm yourself with the knowledge and tools that can help you notice your shortcomings & triggers, so that no one can exploit them.

[@luvPlastic]

@@whasian1487 Source?

[@whasian1487]

@@luvPlastic that norms are different for children raised by a single mother vs being in a nuclear family? I recall going over that in Psych 101. Lmao. It's like psych basics.

[@checoweco4772]

I orignally thought JustPearlyThings was trans when I first saw her lmao

[@CA-qw7qk]

Same here, I can’t believe she was born and raised as a girl given how much she hates women and looks down on them. When I found out she is cisgendered I couldn’t believe myself or my eyes. The crazy part is she is having something called “wife school” or something like that BUT she is unmarried herself and I’m sure she is not in a relationship, the world is a weird place

[@Wilbur-mj3fq]

Same, there's a bunch of clips of her saying "well from a man's point of view.." 😅

[@AutumnS264]

It's the way she's built. Very manly looking. I wouldnt say this about her body, but since she finds it fair game to call women whales due to their body size, it's fair game to discuss her body type as well.

[@CA-qw7qk]

@@AutumnS264 not only does she look manly but I feel like she smells like cold chicken bones and she sure talks a lot,it’s just an opinion :)) she is losing her value FAST I fear she won’t find a suitable husband and she will hit the wall sooner than later. No blue floral pattern dress would help to avoid that wall

[@CA-qw7qk]

@@Wilbur-mj3fq can you imagine she was actually raised and socialized AS A BILOLOGICAL woman, cause I can’t

[@livelaughloathe]

Hasn’t pearl mentioned MANY times how her father commented on her weight and appearance?

[@rosebon9875]

This was probably the most fair, meaningful & helpful conversations between red pills of conservatives vs blue pills or liberal I’ve ever heard in my life💀 everything was so balanced & not just one sided

[@anthonyl9126]

Destiny isn't bluepill. Redpill isn't conservative.

[@rosebon9875]

@@anthonyl9126 Destiny IS bluepilled tf u mean😂 & I know redpill isn’t conservatism💀 He fucking HATES the redpill

[@anthonyl9126]

@@rosebon9875 Bluepill is a metaphor from the matrix that signifies willingly overlooking reality for the comfort of the illusion. That is the complete opposite of Destiny's reasoning considering he bases it on accepting as many true things as possible and rejecting as many false things as possible.

[@tarbosh917]

@@rosebon9875 I think you're one among the majority that don't recognize that redpill/bluepill have nothing to do with left/right political colors.

[@rosebon9875]

@@tarbosh917 no holy shit I never said they were the same that’s so frustrating💀 I didn’t mean the same when I put a slash there it was more of an “or”

[@dre7508]

whenever i hear these guys talk about dating and girls i feel like they’re living on a different planet. maybe it’s because everyone i know is college age but idk any woman who even cares about how much money a guy makes or his career path before dating them. as long as they’re not a complete slob they don’t give a shit (and sometimes their standard is even lower than that) the idea that all these women are finding random rich men and milking them for money is so insane to me. granted i don’t live in miami, i’m in tampa

[@EstaviusMarx]

You’re attending a normal university, that means you’ve already socially stratified yourself away from these nutters.

[@WarmSun_MGM]

@@EstaviusMarx lol a normal university? I went to a big D1 university and majority of girls are dating other guys on campus within their proximity. Like i was in engineering so i dated other engineers. But the girls in business school were dating guys in business school. Sorority girls and frat guys were dating. Athletes were dating athletes. People were dating who aligns with them.

[@frostbite3318]

It’s obvious how little interaction some redpillers have with women the way they describe the dating market

[@EverybodyKnowsBackup]

it is super odd how incel/mgtow/repill people think about things, be it looks, money, or career, or height or whatever, until you realize they are looking for intangibles they can't easily alter, because it lets them sit around and carp and bitch and commiserate without having to admit it might be their rotten souls or their own timidity. Like...we all know inexplicable pieces of shit that are in relationships, and probably relationships they take for granted, you do not have to be a "chad" or rich or jason momoa or whatever to date. The other thing that holds them back is they are all SO into beauty and purity culture that they won't just...date someone like themselves, but female. They're holding out for a virgin tradwife that looks like jessica chastain...like yeah, bro, if you want a 25 year old virgin who looks like a life size barbie and wants that trad life, you better be the captain of the byu football team.

[@vendetadesign]

@@WarmSun_MGM Ah yes, thank you for your insight. People date those with similar interests! By nutters he is referring to these redpill types who think that all girls are miami club girls.

[@82blastoff]

This whole "debate" about the bathrooms is totally absurd. In my country we have plenty of unisex bathrooms. People go the stalls, do their business and wash their hands in one common area. No dicks or pussies are being shown to anyone.

[@user-uq8lb1wo3e]

I don't think it's that absurd. In unisex bathrooms both men and women are allowed entry. You can expect to see both men and women in that bathroom and it's normal. The idea of a man wearing a wig and going to the women's bathroom and getting away with it because he identifies as a woman is not normal. The man is doing something wrong, he knows he's doing something wrong yet he still does it, and he gets away with it. That might make him believe that he can get away with more stuff thus resulting in him raping a woman. In the case of a unisex bathroom, you don't think about it, you just go in, do your job, and get out. In the case of a women's bathroom where only women are allowed, if a man decides to identify as a woman and go in there, he definitely knows he's doing something unordinary and morally wrong.

[@snugglydove6846]

Yes but that requires having a reasonable understanding of what a bathroom is and what it’s used for 😂

[@ghostwriter4642]

the moment Destiny mentions the pageantry stuff, the dude knew that he had no argument and goes, "let's leave it at that," lmfao

[@bridgetb495]

There are women who wear wigs and have beards, too (ie. women who have PCOS, Hirsutism, etc.)

[@lamikiminach9503]

God these two barely could pull 2 Brain cells to rub together, felt like destiny was talking with actual children

[@Aging_Casually_Late_Gamer]

Too bad people like destiny don't have the statistics on their side. How are those no bail laws working out for ya? Lol

[@Loki_Leftist]

I can’t imagine being in the same room as pearly for 6 hours

[@trash3570]

Nightmare blunt rotation

[@mpforeverunlimited]

I can be in the same room as her for an hour 😏

[@123sleepygamer]

@@mpforeverunlimited She don't even look that good at all, she's slightly cute, that's about it but you do you, my brother in coom.

[@SubzeroCage]

@@123sleepygamer shes cringy to me, dont like her.

[@Mastikator]

@@123sleepygamer She's a solid 5 with a terrible personality

[@clarkzy]

Omg the host just wants to monologue his own very surface-level understandings 😂

[@Armando316]

It’s really striking to me how limited Pearl’s knowledge on topics are. She’s just really strongly opinionated which to many makes her come off as smart and witty, I guess. But she’s not as smart or aware as she thinks she is.

[@chrissywarmington2657]

Trust, absolutely no one with half a brain thinks she comes off as smart and witty😭

[@fishnapalmtree]

Only uneducated conservatives think she's smart

[@Bickle121]

Everytime Pearl makes a “point” it just goes silent as no one has a clue what she’s talking about

[@tarbosh917]

And her fans see that as her winning and will short-clip it as 'Pearl DESTROYS panel and they're SPEECHLESS!' It takes a few seconds to process how dumb something is, and then have that internal debate over whether you want to validate the stupidity by responding to it or moving on.

[@Bickle121]

@@tarbosh917 it’s hilarious how many people only know her from “the stupid one who gets clowned” Most people know her from peopel shitting on her

[@disclaimer4211]

Steven: "CIS WOMEN" Adam Sosnick's reaction: "The Confederacy of Independent Systems?" Steven: "no that's not a CIS women" Adam: "I'm learning"

[@ataraxia7439]

Sometimes it feels like taking pride in not understanding the people you’re arguing with. Probably just being funny in conversation but it happens so much with people who have strong opinions who want to have debates and it feels weird that they don’t even want try a quick google search.

[@Brits905]

Her saying women have little opportunity in this video but In so many of her other videos she says that women don’t have issues. It’s only an issue when it directly affect her. She’s such a hypocrite.

[@LauraleePoe]

Def have been in the situation MANY TIMES where my coworker boss/ tried to sleep with me and then made my life hell. The rare times I stood up for myself all his buddies stood up for him and I was harasses and bullied out of the job. These guys and pearl are clueless.

[@Benjiemation]

Poor girl she's not good as supporting her points. The Vice Pannel made her look smarter than she really was. I know Pearl and Sydney are debator youtubers who are used to this but those other women are just trash at holding their positions. Were any of them debators or social media creators tackling these topics? I wonder what they used to decide these folks

[@ExeErdna]

Since if you watch Pearly it really isn't her there's an elder black woman and a black male speaker that normally carries a lot of points. She mainly moderates the discussion chiming in off and on.

[@Anteksanteri]

Definitely some of them weren't. The panel was asked "do trans women deserve to be in women's spaces?" and somebody answered with "yes because they are women" 🤦

[@simonwinn8757]

LOL, you actually think Pearl and Sydney are debate youtubers.

[@SynthhInHD]

Pearl isn't a debater. She is a podcast host who asks questions and provides statistics. That's about it.

[@onesquirrel2713]

So you are saying that Pearl and Sydney are are not very smart, and the average feminist is even dumber?

[@rookiemaster4318]

It's rare to see August being so late to an upload, he's been on that xqc's editor perk

[@carolinaandy5059]

💀these yt emojis got me rolling

[@superdestructo]

I think its out of deference to the host. They probably have it worked out where the host will get a few days as an exclusive before Destiny reposts, so as not to siphon off too many views.

[@DrainYouOut]

@@realistmfouthere5356 dumbass thinks we paid

[@Turboverified]

Solid from the panel, solid debate, respectful

[@Thezuule1]

"It's much easier for women. I got special treatment at the office entirely full of men because I was the only woman... The only woman who even got the job.. Special treatment..." -A Foolish Person

[@Jiggleofexistence]

My brain starts to rot whenever I hear pearl talk

[@dante19890]

she based

[@face-plant4706]

How I feel about both of them. Destiny is equal to her that’s why he holds such disdain

[@richardnixon7248]

@@face-plant4706 enlightened centrist

[@jimbothegymbro7086]

being foreign and watching the stupid left right slap fight is hilarious tbh, hur dur lefties bad vs hur dur righties bad, same stupid different color

[@richardnixon7248]

@@jimbothegymbro7086 another enlightened centrist. Where did you guys come from?

[@angryretailbanker5103]

Jesus Christ, Pearl makes Sneako look like Destiny in terms of intelligence. I think she's only a half step above Kaitlyn Bennet. For the life of me, I can't explain why media outlets even bring her on. It's not even like she has a poorly thought out dissenting opinion. She literally doesn't have anything to say. She sounds like she doesn't even follow these issues at all, which begs the question of why she's in front of cameras talking.

[@Mant111]

They bring her on because she's someone who follows facts rather than feelings, which is kinda rare when it comes to women.

[@angryretailbanker5103]

@@Mant111 "I dunno, I just don't wanna see dicks in the locker room." Truly fact based argument right there. Or should I say arguments, plural, since she said the same thing three times in six minutes like Sneako making a nipple joke.

[@EverybodyKnowsBackup]

tokenization. they think if you get a woman (or a minority, or a gay or whatever) to say it, it's insulated from criticism, because that's how the right thinks the left works. Just the pretty standard dolt-right move of trying to hold you accountable for their stereotypes about you.

[@vendetadesign]

@@Mant111 all of her points made in this video were that of personal experience or simple one sentence opinionated answers. did we watch the same video?

[@Mant111]

@@angryretailbanker5103 And it's a perfectly reasonable point.

[@breathJONNYstay]

Guys, Pearl has tried many different things/topics on social media. The red pill talk stuck and it got her the clout she had been trying to get lol

[@juliabaumgarn1484]

You don’t need to ask a girl anything to know if she’s only into you for your money, if she’s constantly asking you for money and expects expensive things all the time then yeah…I think she wants your money

[@taravanova]

"There are no barriers of entry for women." but also, "I was the only girl in my previous work environment." hmmm.

[@Reienroute]

Having had no idea who the girl in the pink skirt was, I actually assumed she was trans until she began spouting anti-trans talking points. Broad shoulders, angular face, somewhat deep voice... she's actually a prime candidate for finding herself at the receiving end of the kinds of anti-trans laws/rules she wants society to adopt. There have already been cases of cis women being threatened in bathrooms for looking too masculine. It's only a matter of time for her.

[@Mant111]

Not really, us normal people understand that males are men and females are women. No amount of "broad shoulders or angular faces" will change a woman's nature.

[@froglifes6829]

This is a massice reach. You lack real arguments so you insult her looks. Good job bro.

[@froglifes6829]

@@testcase6997 First that does not make sense. Second you missed her whole point. Go back to school.

[@Mant111]

@@froglifes6829 Just ignore him, that guy's been sperging with stupid comments all over this section.

[@CptDangernoodle]

She's a volleyball player

[@divinelyshpongled]

It's just not a binary simple answer... men have it easier in some regards, in some fields, in some situations, and women have it easier in other regards, fields and situations.. men succeed more when it comes to power plays, situations that need physical strength or being intimidating, but women have it easier when it comes to situations that dont need that so much, and there's less of a power dynamic going on which is why streaming and instagram seems so easy for beautiful women to succeed

[@Gchili]

14:40 the way I'm violently nodding while he's saying this

[@leftboxanderson5361]

I love Justpearlys' "it depends on the outcome you want." Acknowledging the choices feminism has brought her in her youth..yikes

[@tarbosh917]

Also she's one among other unmarried, childless women who are trying to make the case that women should stop trying to make a career for themselves and instead get married and have babies. 'I got mine now I'm gonna join the men in putting the boot on your neck'.

[@slxthkween]

As a feminist, I like all the people in this panel (except pearl). They are all unbaised and smart

[@scythermantis]

Okay I basically never watch Destiny and don't really align politically but I have to say this Pearly girl just doesn't seem to think about what it might be like for women who for example would be discriminated against in a hiring process due to it being assumed they might have children soon and go on maternity leave (which btw DOES happen regardless of legality, they just try to conceal how they are doing it with leading questions)... that would certainly be a structural barrier, right?

[@Manusmusic]

About women being able to hide their intentions better, I think this has to do with how people who are physically smaller tend to overcome this with psychological traits.

[@SlyNine]

Is that what you think... Based on what.

[@HexagonSun990]

I don't get it

[@jmh4ggg]

Nah

[@ASMallRequest]

@@SlyNine based on the napoleon complex study although it was focused on males. I dont know why it wouldnt affect women too. Ive seen it happen with my parents

[@froglifes6829]

@@ASMallRequest that study is a theory. not actual fact

[@yasminadriana240]

I’m A Black Transgender Woman & I Just Found Your Channel, Trans Woman Have Always Been Using The Bathroom. IDK Why The Bathroom Conversation Is A Issue Now.

[@dante19890]

just pee at home

[@Ghee_Buttersnaps]

@@dante19890chill homie… I bet she pees at home too 😒

[@dante19890]

@@Ghee_Buttersnaps standing or sitting

[@dinismantas7265]

I am not an American therefore I can't speak about the reality over there. I am also not trans, but I have met quite a few trans people since the early 90s, mostly professionaly but a few times also socially (both trans women and men). As far as I can remember there never was this issue with the WC use - if they have to go, well, they go. People always adapted to the situation. Most of the time no one even noticed. However, I have to say that it seems to me that the definition of trans has broadened a bit in recent years.

[@theghostofumarskoolishere.4632]

Because it’s uncomfortable as a woman I don’t want men in my bathroom it’s a very intimate and private setting for women and it’s a safe space I don’t feel safe with males in there. Men are so ingrained in women culture it’s annoying.