Race Debate w/ SNEAKO, ABA, JIDION, YOUNG DON And NICK

[@destiny]

Part 2 Jidion CLASHES w/ Sneako, Aba Forced To Moderate ►kzbin.info/www/bejne/mGGkq4epoN6FY8U

[@scoopaway9176]

This land was mine now it's your but soon it's mine to M and R. Kill everyone who stands in your way. Laws and boundaries must be crush affend everyone that you touch.

[@scoopaway9176]

Destiny don't you know Asians or the Russians will take over America. Beautiful to be honest.

[@eben7248]

The audio desyncs at around 28:00

[@cananary]

stop putting aba and sneako on they suck

[@aSSGoblin1488]

fucking giga chad comes to rescue

[@KidMuny93]

I love how they just accepted that aba is the honorary moderator without being a official debate. Shoutout aba for being the dad of the kids lol

[@missedinformation7068]

Papa Aba

[@tnsxpm]

accurate asf 😂

[@Alex-ql1fd]

man this podcast would have gone off the rails several times had he not had his foot on the brakes 😭 such an awesome podcast!

[@Beenfranklin24]

Aba is the mediator...and low key instigating at certainly parts 🤣 i love it.

[@lloyda6873]

Integrity and intelligence

[@cashblaster3475]

It's so funny how Nick and Destiny always hit each other with the "you're uncomfortable, you're so uncomfortable right now". It's the equivalent of "bro you're so mad" in video game lobbies

[@silenceyouidiot]

@WHITES LOVE MY PLAYLISTS I love how Nick gives inklings of what he actually wants to say when someone like Haz or Sneako edges him on as a non-white fan.

[@trenton227]

They are secretly on love.

[@kiki-pn2yv]

@WHITES LOVE MY PLAYLISTS super L bio bro.

[@kiki-pn2yv]

@WHITES LOVE MY PLAYLISTS i’d rather have 99 iq than 70 like in Affica

[@lifeunderthestarstv]

Destiny doesn't really do it. Sneako is notorious for doing it. He's literally in the generation that used this over and over as a deflect growing up. And their first debate? Full of sneako saying it over and over while screaming and talking over destiny. Guy isn't good.

[@Xontor23]

Can we take the time to appreciate how well Aba moderated the discourse. Good balance between 'sides', I didn't get any bad faith vibes from him, and he managed to let both sides talk and get their points in Please moderate more bro we need you

[@innitbruv-lascocomics9910]

Seriously. Love the way Aba moderates and how he engages debate. Even if he's being insulted by some of the discourse with Fuentes and Sneako's annoying child-like burst of laughter and or whatever the hell it was. He definitely needs to be Destiny's main moderator

[@crome2021]

As much as I like Aba, I definitely felt he was being a bit biased against Fuentes here.

[@eddie_m8a491]

@@crome2021 i mean of course he would He’s black. It’s understandable

[@cngotham4111]

@@crome2021 well he definitely stated his opinion but he aloud nick to talk with plenty of time. Most times aba was just holding Nick to his own words.

[@colbyrob4814]

@@crome2021 prolly because it’s 3v1

[@mattymatt6970]

The thumbnail made me laugh so hard. It says "race mixing is degenerate," and sneako, who is a mix of the three major races, has the biggest smile on his face. 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[@MarioEstevez-re1us]

It is bad though because it is not an evolutionarily advantage. but of course you cant say that because HITLER

[@JohnJohniskilla]

Mystery meat hybrid

[@PaLMROXVIXIII]

Yet he doesn’t even look mixed, but just Asian instead. But he makes sure to let people know he is. Out of an obvious shame for his Asian phenotype and heritage. Like when confronted by destiny, about the peru subject. And he said they would try to speak English to him because they “knew he was from the states” by looking at him. 🤣 then he answered like if he didn’t know what was going on. lol 😂. Destiny was like “yea right” . Typical dumb Asian.

[@PaLMROXVIXIII]

Yet he doesn’t even look mixed, but just Asian instead. But he makes sure to let people know he is. Out of an obvious shame for his Asian phenotype and heritage. Like when confronted by destiny, about the peru subject. And he said they would try to speak English to him because they “knew he was from the states” by looking at him. 🤣 then he answered like if he didn’t know what was going on. lol 😂. Destiny was like “yea right” . Sneako is an idiot.

[@emoneybagz3123]

Truly the saddest kind of person

[@eg-cv3bz]

The chemistry in this group is undeniable I wanna see more of this content from them

[@GgCashh451]

Destiny getting called a rat made me cry of laughter obviously I don’t agree but the delivery was *chefs kiss*

[@freerights6695]

This stream was hilarious, I laughed out loud so many times.

[@senorfrog5605]

spoiler alert, sneakos going to be in the defacto nick seat

[@sanniez]

Jews won’t allow fun

[@twizzytmoser]

not to get philosophical or anything, but i feel like this video is just one giant contradiction. look at how much fun they’re having despite arguing and being completely different politically. we truly can all live together in harmony.

[@EddyWriter_]

This is easily one of the craziest panel lineups I've seen to date! Did not expect this at all.

[@hamadalkaabi2160]

idc what there ideology is this is just fire ass content + nick racism it's just to funny feels like a comedy skit

[@riptaiyo]

Needs to kick lideon bot ass and put John Doyle on here

[@termitreter6545]

Yeah it was just whack to me that they suddenly got Nick Fuentes in. That came so out of nowhere.

[@goldenmemes51]

@@hamadalkaabi2160 i enjoy destiny casual talks with nick.. big fan of aba preach and jidion for comedy my fuckin god this hit the right spot tingles of youtube godfather content

[@hamadalkaabi2160]

@@goldenmemes51 I think the vibe of this was that people with different ideology’s can still laugh and have a good time some political streamers can’t even laugh or be kind to one another

[@arctic_beanz7503]

This panel lineup has given me faith that Destiny loves black people.

[@sneakyguava]

Amazin

[@grey-pilled5253]

Nick confirmed afro-latino

[@raz0rcarich99]

I like how the two white people are situated on top of 3 other black people each.

[@schilling2438]

When you're obsessed with race all you see is race. You're the biggest type of racist there is.

[@tb8654]

@@raz0rcarich99 4* Sneako is 25% Black and being any percent Black makes you Black.... using the logic of Nick Fuentes

[@shermsticky2500]

I love how the proof isn’t in the pudding for y’all when y’all say Nick wouldn’t be friends with sneeko in some hypothetical situation, when in reality Nick and sneeko get along just fine.

[@shubb-niggurath]

Nick said he doesn’t like race mixing and you have a guy who is literally a bi product of race mixing agree is the funniest shit I’ve seen

[@Jdjdjdujakzgsha]

Nick is literally against his existence…

[@Mimi-ls1zn]

Getting along and being friends are two very different things.

[@levmccor54]

@@JdjdjdujakzgshaLol being against race mixing doesnt mean you dont like mixed people. Im against rape doesnt mean im against people conceived by rape

[@robyou8511]

You're simply pointing out that Nick is a hypocrite. You cannot defend the indefensible.

[@realTrissMerigold]

Aba and Jidion shouting at Nick he should get himself a black queen who loves Christ (hallelujah) was just top tier comedy. But in general its so great these people want to talk to each other despite the possibility of receiving backlash for having Nick or Sneako on the stream

[@YASMINOGBU]

so funny 🤣😂😂

[@DustinStich-iy8eo]

There is no possibility of that he was raised right

[@Alpine_Nightly]

You gotta love Sneako's invaluable, intellectually stimulating contributions to the conversation. Things such as asking apropos of literally nothing, "Dijion, did you know Destiny doesn't believe in God?" Or "Dijion, did you know Nick is Catholic?" What a beautiful mind this kid has.

[@vianzii]

He’s a fool who is irreligious and only spouts religious theology and quotes when they slightly advocate for his point although he only sees it as an aesthetic connected to his “Red-pill” ideology when it clearly isn’t.

[@jimmyryder8850]

Literally a child

[@ronthorn3]

I’ve met douche bags that act exactly like him before, they can’t think for themselves, and latch unto others for identity and meaning, so yeah, kid stuff.

[@ricoa9661]

😂😂😂 that guys is the biggest joke....

[@cmend]

Well to be fair sneako is the one who arranged for this panel so he gets props for that

[@mechadonia]

This is such a hilarious mix of panelists. Young Don’s addition is just the perfect cherry on top.

[@hart.6230]

It's pure random 🤣🤣, I came from Shneako and Don

[@jamarij5814]

@@hart.6230 lol I know all of them and I’ve never would’ve thought I’d see all of them in one call together, wish preach was there too

[@MistaWap]

@@jamarij5814 bruh I can already hear him rippin nick in patois 😭

[@GgCashh451]

When he called Destiny a rat I laughed so fucking hard

[@shanellerosado63]

What if Europeans kept immigrating to DR and made Dominicans in DR the minority? I think this is what Nick is saying and I agree with Nick

[@lovelylace4896]

A White Nationalist that is part Mexican. 🤣🤣🤣

[@ravender730]

who?

[@lovelylace4896]

​@@ravender730 Nick

[@ravender730]

@@lovelylace4896 i've never heard of this kid before but i could tell he's not very white, even destiny doesn't look 100% but he's mostly white

[@lovelylace4896]

@@ravender730 Loool, I just was always under the impression that white nationalist were fully white. He calls mixed people degenerate but he is mixed race. 😏

[@ravender730]

​@@lovelylace4896I'm kind of 50-50 on this though, we do everything we can to protect dog breeds but we as a species are mixing all the time, I don't think he calls mixed people degenerates eventhough he clearly looks mixed himself, but the process of mating with another race is what he considers degeneracy, there is a difference, Multiculturalism usually destroys religion and other values too, I don't see a problem if you want to date someone who looks like you, I am south east European and consider myself white, but I would never mix my genes with a blonde woman with green eyes from Finland, not my type, even though she is also white, it's not racism, it's preference. Nationalism is not always about race, it's also about preserving your values, traditions, religion, culture etc. As far as i know, America is a mix of everything, so nationalism doesn't make sense in America. I would argue Asian countries are the most protective of their race.

[@izecmaria]

Insane panel that we easily took for granted. It's incredible to see how all of them diverged into their own paths and continued to develop further into their own beliefs and ways of living..... Sadly, I can never fathom there to be another time where we get to see all of these guys get into a panel like this again

[@cmend]

Literally. Thank Sneako for this panel

[@MoeBulle]

Nick Fuentes has never developed

[@LawsonSims44]

​@@MoeBullehe has, he has, he will be a factor in stopping the woke nonsense and help america

[@gelo888]

@@LawsonSims44great job at self reporting that you share beliefs with a white nationalist 😂 weirdo

[@id1550]

@@LawsonSims44😂

[@soulbro55]

getting banned on twitch was the best thing for destiny, otherwise we wouldn't get this legendary stream.

[@lionofallah3441]

What platform are they using in this video ?

[@DOFT.mp4]

@@lionofallah3441 destiny streams on youtube, but i believe nick is streaming on his own platform named cozy

[@seanupton709]

Sneako is a good example of someone being open minded without any grounding framework other than vague 'establishment bad'- he can literally get taken anywhere haha

[@randybobandy9828]

If you don't stand for anything....... you know the rest.

[@richardbolas]

hes the complete opposite of open minded, if you hit him with a position he disagrees with he automatically disagrees with everything

[@Phenomfly]

i would also put open minded in quotes

[@novepe]

It's pretty clear that he isn't. He has pretty static world view, he just does a poor job at explaning what that world view is. But it's pretty clear that the framework establishment bad is something he would get behind.

[@seventeenseventythirteen7465]

Literally not this but okay. Don't know why all the Sneako fanboys are showing up to act like this dude isn't insane and breeds a toxic community. From what I've seen from him he's just a Tate Lite who screams at women and creates incels. What's sad is I've seen his older content where he was more actually open minded and had unique takes on the world. Now he's just your average 2016 Gamer Gate level Conservative grifter screaming about how women are going to divorce you to take have your shit and then make baseless rape claims because that's just what women do I guess. Also he wants to cook at eat Noah Samson's cat for some reason.

[@richyarcs]

Great debate. Thanks guys for listening to each other. Makes me wanna start up and put my two cents in. Aba I think you should moderate most of these debates and they should pay you to do so. This went a-lot smoother with your skill and navigating the wash of voices.

[@The-Owl-Bard]

I think having Destiny bring a female opinion to this debate made the panel far more balanced.

[@JakovLSSJ4]

i LOVE women

[@JoeMama-gi1so]

Britney would help these people be more introspective.

[@colbyrob4814]

@@JoeMama-gi1so for a cheap cost of $300 per person

[@marlom7882]

Booooo! No girls allowed

[@vibez2806]

He should bring Brittany, the best debater in the galaxy

[@docta_myna8011]

One thing I can’t stand about Sneako is that when he’s presented with a hypothetical, he starts to act willfully ignorant because he knows that the other person’s end argument will make *HIS* initial argument sound dumb. Like…he’s not stupid. He fully understands the hypotheticals. He just has this inflated ass ego and he will do everything in his power to preserve it…

[@MrGargamel1198]

Surprisingly he didn't do that with Mr. Girl. It seemed like he's ok with bordeline CP as long as it's not intended for sexual use. It seemed like he was weirdly biting such an unnecessary bullet there.

[@niclastname]

@@MrGargamel1198 He did do it with Mr Girl though, and that's why he and Destiny were getting triggered by him being that stupid. He refused to engage with the hypothetical and just kept saying "Cuties isn't porn though!". He never stopped dodging the test of his stance.

[@randybobandy9828]

@MrGargamel1198 is Mr girl a pedo?

[@kenyonmckee2268]

I don’t like sneako I watched cause I mess with everyone else except who ever this nick guy is.

[@JailBr3ak3r77]

This panel is S tier for content. Everyone has been killing it lately, Jidion, Don, A&P, Destiny, Sneako and even F&F

[@pyromaniack13]

F&F 🗑

[@camkraw893]

To be fair F&F have gotten better as of late with their discussions.. whether that's a new mindset or just a temporary change, it's been more refreshing than 99% of their content

[@OmniDarkz]

Big facts

[@crispy4962]

Sneako? “Killing it” lol what do you mean

[@justamaninthisworld2742]

@@crispy4962 I assume in terms of enjoyment

[@Employment613]

Sneako and Nick are their own best arguments against race mixing.

[@easyalpha1]

Human ethnic color mixing will continue till the end of time…… but it will always be a choice…

[@Employment613]

@@easyalpha1 Just in case someone misunderstands--im just making fun of nick and sneako, not endorsing their views.

[@easyalpha1]

👍@@Employment613

[@redox6160]

​@@easyalpha1No

[@blacknoir4851]

​@@Employment613"fuentes" is a spanish name, spanish people are european.

[@anathema1425]

My favorite part in this whole discussion is how Sneako's face is constantly like : "Duuuuude that Nick guy is crazy af but if I disagree with him I may have to re evaluate my whole worldview and admit I might be wrong in a lot of stuff and that can't happen". It's hilarious how hard he struggles in his head.

[@blake9668]

I looked at it as Sneako disagreeing with Nick but at the same time, agreeing with the framework forming Nick's ideology. Elijah Muhammad got along with W.S. Fellows, as an example. You can completely disagree with someone's perspective and worldview but agree with the way they arrived at their ideology

[@jjdd4307]

You nailed it 100%

[@trashawnw]

The whole conversation can be about Nick wanting to segregate and Sneako will just say “I agree with him because he knows that the government is corrupt and f the establishment.” The reason he agrees with Nick wasn’t discussed at all this whole stream😂

[@FlarkusChunswen]

@It’s Not Personal It’s Facts there is not a world where white nationalists are a greater good. Gtfoh

[@kyle8971]

You watch him go from "This is my friend" to "This is some dude I just met in discord" in a matter of minutes, and THEN the insanity which is Nick's views come out. After that, Sneako realizes he jumped into the deep end with a lead weight and not a flotation device. But it is par for the course for someone that jumps on any and every conspiracy theory like they're the gospel of truth.

[@bro_1337]

Destiny's content is so good lately. This has made me realize how bad it is to aggresively deplatform people like twitch has done. Obviously some of these people are out of their mind and saying ridiculous shit, but it's just awful having a platform where people have to conform to an extensive set of opinions/beliefs.

[@strangelitgirl]

Indeed!

[@krunkle5136]

Twitch and Twitter are working against their interests, assuming that is getting rid of the 'bad' people. It just creates mystique. There must be a reason for banning people for bad-think, as much as its a fallacy to think like this. People are nonetheless drawn to those people with that mentality.

[@dna8269]

Agreed. Freedom of speech is what makes things interesting. Unless someone is out there preaching blatant hate speech and to go harm people, I say let them speak and let these debates occur. Censoring other adults from seeing and hearing them isn't doing anything but creating an artificial reality where Twitch acts as our parents to try and protect us from the boogie man that says bad things. Ultimately we can go hear them on other platforms anyway, so they may as well let it fly in one space and let the people decide who is logically sound with discourse like this Censorship and forms of prohibition (especially with attempting to silence people) NEVER goes well and only hurts our society as a whole

[@ProgressiveConservative]

I’ve watched destiny since sc2, one of the first streamers I ever watched. And I remember him last year averaging like 1k viewers streaming league nonstop. Glad he went back to this type of content, i tend to be closer to nick in my political opinions but I love to see Nick challenged in debates. It just makes for unreal content.

[@zombievikinggaming4258]

If there was truly no censorship then these conversations/streams would be a thing

[@MrBarfingRainbows]

Jideon's sudden change in expression at 24:50 when Nick says he's being investigated by the FBI and subpoenaed by Congress absolutely kills me

[@TheIronGiant12]

A roller coaster of emotion lmao

[@flacko_r3519]

😂😂 I didn’t notice this, his facial expressions changed so quick

[@cosuinofdeath]

Shook

[@daviddillardjohnson1095]

And then he mute his mic and call sneako 😂

[@camlizabeth8641]

STOPP I DIDNT EVEN NOTICE OH MY-

[@joshuarobertson1757]

'Destiny you're such a rat'! Hilarious!!

[@hassentrh2118]

well he was being a rat

[@joshuarobertson1757]

@@hassentrh2118 I know.

[@degenxayah]

Nick, Destiny, Aba, Sneako. What a star studded lineup. What a wild panel

[@dumbass1775]

jidion a W tooo

[@h8thegr8]

Young Don the Sauce God

[@cananary]

all trash especially aba

[@fromthehills814]

As an African who has spent his entire life in Africa, most of us can tell the difference between a black American and an African. In fact, we can tell the difference between Africans from different regions (Zimbabwean Vs Ghanian Vs Kenyan Vs Chadian all look different to us)

[@cramax4871]

Yeah Europeans can tell the difference between Germans, English, Swedish etc. Even I can see the differnece between Abba and Don. Each races have their own subspecies so to say. Only americans pretend like its all the same

[@zrivs]

@@cramax4871 only americans with limited experience around african americans cant tell the difference.

[@QuarantineCody]

It’s called Ethno-genesis

[@thefieldtrippers3646]

Coool you would all be blacks to a white man.

[@honorableh]

Aba is lowkey the best moderator on youtube.

[@pogo8050]

Aba is a king. We stan

[@3self]

Fr

[@aaabbbccc1939]

The only issue was nick was in a 1v4 situation and he thought it was unfair that nick got more time to speak, later in the debate he correctly gave him more time to talk.

[@OldManShoutsAtClouds]

@@deebo429__ I actually found Destiny's content through Aba and Preach. Easily some of my favorite people on KZbin.

[@dxshawn532]

@@deebo429__ Yeah everyone else in his sphere is insufferable to me.

[@yooeriic6628]

I wish this specific group could do more debates😂

[@yeezusjm]

This shit is too entertaining lol

[@christopherismusicallyinclined]

They could be a great content team for their own major KZbin channel.

[@CinThang-j6n]

It’s literally everyone against Nick.

[@lucasparham5068]

You gotta give Nick credit, he’s really good at finding the gains in a room. He targeted Sneako brilliantly.

[@xjohntheone]

gains?

[@rll1236]

@@xjohntheone and he handled a 1v4

[@itsjayh]

@@rll1236 nah

[@PlumpSort]

@@xjohntheone gains meaning gaining new cult members

[@cdubbau135]

Sneako doesn't have a choice. He took off the mask tonight. But I have hope. It looks like he's listening. Depends on his priorities.

[@MLG420McSwaggerton]

This was a LEGENDARY stream

[@akjustice]

Literally, one of the best and most random streams sneako or destiny ever did, was so good.

[@andrewcox5873]

I was watching this live and could not get enough

[@Randompersondoesntmatter]

Fuentes is a legend

[@2BDPODCASTOFFICIAL]

@@Randompersondoesntmatter a legendary dipshit lmao

[@Ematched]

This is second only to "Destiny Vs. The World."

[@FightNChickN]

The Battle for Sneako’s heart and mind continues.

[@MeanApollo]

Lol it doesnt continue. Nick thoroughly claimed sneakos soul. Keep coping.

[@anbuhyuga8299]

He has gone from wanting to have a wallmart of bimbos, to realizing that 3 quality women probably is better, in 2 weeks or so. I just hope he reads the prescription label on the bluepills, so he doesn't overdose, and go to all his Destiny appointments to make sure he doesn't show any signs of Hassanebia, Vaushomia or just general brainrot.

[@johntuya5474]

He’s too childish n annoying, who cares what happens to him, let him side with nazis.

[@LoopyDreamz775]

@@MeanApollo That’s sad…

[@sunipye7051]

Nick , Tate , and fresh and fit have already ruined sneako enough we r done

[@Dezzo0721]

Seeing the title a year later and all the people involved is crAzy before even clicking💀💀

[@diegostyles192]

I know right.

[@kc_h7h]

They all took crazy routes. Destiny is now 10x more famous than he was. Jidion became a religious preacher. Nick is officially gone. Sneako is now just a chill streamer

[@patrickbateman1660]

Give those metrics ​@@curlinsquatraq9818

[@blitz8425]

Jidion telling Sneako to shut up was a cathartic release that I didn't know i needed.

[@FMGA14]

Me too. I was like finally someone told sneako to shut up for a second

[@orlin800]

Time stamp?

[@iexistsomehow5718]

@@avacadocap9591 time stamp?

[@localwarlord]

Facts time stamp

[@yokingstream1005]

Commenting so I can see the timestamp

[@jadethronson9675]

There’s something great about people with polar opposite views having a respectful, productive, real conversation. Love to see it!

[@anteb.k.8396]

The guy is not respectful, he's openly racist

[@WeezyTF2]

Destiny getting banned from Twitch is the best thing that's ever happened to his career.

[@adriensmith392]

Nick: "They sky is the sky is the sky. Everyone knows what the sky is. But the sky is also different to different people. Different people have different experiences with the sky, so how can we ever say we know the sky? And ......." 15minutes later "...and thats why i say that the sky is green." Destiny: "wait, hang on. So you think the sky is green, Nick?" Nick: "Destiny, i really hate how you misrepresent me, lie about what i say, obfuscate, gaslight, twist my words, pander to your bank, like other races, permeate, translocate, and just are disingenuous with the questions you ask me. I never once said that everyone thinks the sky is green."

[@Subgenrelol]

1:11:08 Nick getting completely derailed by his point to call Destiny a “sneaky rat” is exactly what I came here for

[@anthony7960]

One of the many, many times I just died laughing. So many goated moments in this one.

[@wolfensteinabsolutely8715]

@@hairypawter8475 keep sneeding

[@retrodude123]

@@hairypawter8475 only one here coping is you my friend 😀

[@leoalphaproductions8642]

Officially the best podcast. This is the kind of discourse I wanna see. People from all political spectrums coming together, having banter and discussing their ideas.

[@septemberviral]

Fr man I love it. As a Somali American I like too discuss with people from other backgrounds & cultures on their views on the world. Even if your a Neo Nazi I want to see why do you think like that. Unfortunately in these times it’s hard to have these conversations with anyone without getting censored. This podcast was refreshing!

[@Afff924]

@@septemberviral facts warya

[@aromata1]

@@septemberviral Fellow Somali Destiny viewer

[@septemberviral]

@@aromata1 barasho waanagsan saaxib 🤝🏾

[@malbasedvalentine3210]

@@septemberviral because fundamentally people must conform to one culture wherever they chose to live, or be ostracized for choosing to not conform. Even liberals/Marxists believe in this, because they wouldn’t want you living in their space if you don’t follow their deprave values. It may not be race as National socialist as myself view it, but it’s very closely related based on conformity and one culture.

[@ANunes06]

I don't even have words to describe this entire experience. This stream should get an oscar for character direction.

[@ihsahnakerfeldt9280]

Sneako is like a little child with no thought process of his own parading his cool new friend (who he learned all his new ideas and vocabulary from) around and showing him to his parents. "Look mom and dad! This is Nick! Nick likes this and that. Isn't that cool?!"

[@whiteflame24]

Jideon being on a panel like this is goated. It's bigger than black and white

[@superhamz7]

It's mixed race

[@khakim9448]

@@superhamz7 it’s some Jidion meme used as a indirect blanket statement

[@cupofwater_diplip1243]

@@khakim9448 it’s a joke

[@daddyfuse50]

Judion saying "I'm not black Nick, what is black, there arent just black people" right after 5 mins earlier "BLM was the biggest missed opportunity for black people, asians got their bill signed". Everyone has to get dishonest and make up arguments against Nick, because he speaks simple truths, so they have to squirm out a fake argument about how theyre pretending races don't exist and they dont know what he means.

[@staxstirner]

@@cupofwater_diplip1243 it's free real estate

[@younggeezer8232]

Aba laughing at Nick talking about the no fly shit is hilarious.

[@kofi6239]

The part where he said he was gonna fight with a black person ovr a shower cause hes black was too funny

[@TwiceBaked2]

@@kofi6239 lmao dude is a legit idiott

[@wanderingwobb6300]

I never thought I would see Jidion and Nick on a panel together. This is the content I'm here for.

[@pjohn3476]

Nick : “I’m not a white nationalist” Also nick : “yes I believe that America should only have white people.”

[@timurayazbayev67]

@@zen8008 Not true. Russia, has Asians in their country and Whole regions of them, like Tatarstan, Chechnya or Bashkiriya, not to mention immigrants for other post Soviet countries and hey all call them Russians, furthermore Russian nationalist organisation that promotes pure blood was closed and announced illegal in Russia, I'm not sure About Japan or Korea, but its not true that Russia wants to keep their nation to race

[@allikirman2183]

⁠​⁠@@zen8008trouble is America did not develop its own culture of hundreds and thousands of years like Russia, Japan or others. It was founded on basically the people that got here first, and over time the type of people who came became different. First Dutch, English, German, then Irish, then Eastern European. Then in the late 20th century from Southeast Asia and the Caribbean. America was not founded on any “race” but instead a set of ideals, that has made it progress and prosper from people from all backgrounds and heritages.

[@AnimeOtaku56.]

@@zen8008wtf is this point. Russia and Japan especially in the older populations are very xenophobic. Yes there are Japanese Nationalists and Russian Nationalists.

[@AnimeOtaku56.]

@@zen8008 but white people aren’t the minority nor will they be unnaturally that’s great replacement propaganda. White people aren’t being replaced it’s a natural progression of a homogenous society that is “pro immigration” also nationalism is not good in pretty much any context. Patriotism is a good thing to have and is something I share but patriotism and nationalism are wildly different.

[@calidawg510]

That’s beautiful…America was better

[@Devn3dx]

HOLD UP Aba : " Nick there has to be some women out there that believe what you believe and want a piece of whatever it is you bring to the table" Nick : " Yes but they're all crazy" ....blink blink....

[@anonymouspreme3425]

Right wing incels are🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@elysiannyx9190]

Another 10000 iq take from lick luentes

[@Frey-Doh]

Remember they’re all of a 4 crazy at least

[@yukicross3917]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@bl8413]

Nick: “I basically think the last 300 years have been a mistake” Nick: “I love America and want to go back to the way things used to be” America: is 246 years old

[@daddyfuse50]

The USA is, not America.

[@daddyfuse50]

White people lived for quite some time before the founding of the USA btw

[@neosynth6209]

@@daddyfuse50 no one cares

[@daddyfuse50]

@@neosynth6209 >I'm wrong but i don't care heh, i win again

[@matt_9112]

Also the whole discussion about the role of black people is rather obsolete if we take him at his word...

[@alexbenitez7399]

This has got to be one of the most interesting political panels in a long time and that’s just because how they’re from different political view points and how entertaining they all are on their own.

[@lidiagizaw3828]

it's like a mini talk show with men def interesting to hear what each dude thinks

[@cmap1503]

Being racist isnt a political viewppint, that's all Nick fuentes has

[@alexbenitez7399]

@@cmap1503 nah nick fuentes is just a racist but the way he says shit it’s funny I just could never watch him like everyday or something I’d get exhausted

[@morroc6846]

@@cmap1503 Yeah he's racist but at the end of the day who cares? I'm black, I don't care and you shouldn't too, racist people are stupid and they don't deserve any time of our days period, he can hate my skin color w/e, just don't try to control me with your racist bullshit and we are all good, he can be stupid for the rest of his life.

[@A0142-m1j]

​@@cmap1503 its a but political, because of the hill he's willing to stand in when it comes to immigration.

[@Iwillreply]

Nick practically said that as long as their are differences between two individuals, there will be conflict, and we should not seek to increase the number of differences, which include not only beliefs, but age, sex, gender, skin color, geographical location, etc. so when Destiny asks, if he wants all diversity to be removed, and says no, then why does he keep repeating that point. Unlike Nick, I can (uncontroversially) say that certain beliefs can lead to harmful outcomes, but differences in appearance (and all that falls under it) do not create a (considerable) gap between people that would "destroy a country/civilization". If we want homogeny, it should not be through looks, but through values (despite the difficulty of such a thing), because values are what we fight for/over. Maybe the divisions or religion and culture have made the possibility of homogeny more difficult, but we can see more and more people working to moderate, and expand their own views, creating a much more homogenous culture, while some seek to be strict and antagonistic because they feel suffocated as they slowly chip away their own values in order to maintain some semblance of power, the only thing they truly cared about the whole time.

[@foodchewer]

Well said. I hear you, you're looking for substance over style.

[@zzthedon4k]

A person who is 'black' is not simply dark-skinned. They grow up in a 'black' country and act 'black'. Whatever this idea how is, however ill-informed, is not imaginary. Biological advantages lead to people acting in certain ways. Maybe in the form of a few nomads several thousand years back. Maybe a few hunters. Or maybe a few farmers. But those trickle down in to the vastly different cultures that places like Europe, China and much of Africa ended up being. A black and white man are not simply separated by looks. There is so much going on behind the human mind and body we can't even begin to piece that connection between how much is nurture (culture) or nature (race). But, by and large the separations of race are easy indicators that two people are going to be different. Granted, in Nick's worldview, it seems that a man and a woman should be separated FAR more than a black and a white dude seeing as sex is the biggest separator among the human race, yet his focus is to keep up his bottom dollar. If none of this resonates; the countries/cultures that do the best by and large homogenize first. Look at all the 'white' countries up in northern Europe. Or how places like China are quickly on the rise. It's no coincidence that a people who are more connected perform better, whether just by belief, or by belief/race/etc.

[@vibez2806]

​​​what is acting black then?? And yes it is separated by just looks, my best friend from childhood is white and he is exactly like me except our skin colour. So where are you getting that they arent the same? China is also on the rise cause they took advantage of their large population(and sweatshop) to mass produce items whixh the whole world uses. Along with other things of course

[@floomp4552]

Destiny: If your mixed, are you advocating that people like you shouldn't be apart of the country Nick: The hardest choices require the strongest wills

[@DNj800]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Elle-ou7qn]

LOLOLOL

[@jacobl.s.9467]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 Bi Racial MEXICAN NICK DOING ALL THIS TO BE THROWN OUT OF HIS OWN ETHNOSTATE... VERY STUPID.

[@getachew.]

lmao Im just so lost why sneako is siding w him when sneako is mixed

[@anonymousbo0318]

@@abdurrahmanqureshi3030 Cause he's slow

[@Casper-Ghost]

I would love to see Aba moderate more debates; he did a fantastic job here.

[@wag1_2mhaters]

facts

[@BRG64]

Forreal, gave everyone the same amount of love and interjected at perfect times.

[@deeznutz8320]

Lmao his gotcha moment with Sneako which was false and him digging his grave by saying Nick needs security for speaking in front of blacks would get him attacked? Hè did allright, you guys are praising him because of bigotry of low expectations

[@NicholasW943]

God I hate myself for loving these shitshow debates. I know they're mind rot and don't mean anything, but I'm addicted.

[@indigo96968]

Do not be ashamed for I to am cursed with the favoring of such content

[@xmantrader136]

This entertainment was worth the mind rot 🔥

[@melissasylvest365]

I'm a deep state queer and I like it out and proud. Claim your truth 🙏

[@perpetual_suffering1458]

@@indigo96968 we all are bearers of this curse friend. Cursed to forever roam these comment section purgatories

[@off6848]

What is mind rotting about it?

[@arunsalwan8558]

Mexicans and pretty much all of the Latin American countries are a mixture of native and European DNA so he really doesn’t know what the hell he’s talking about

[@brandont2690]

Mexican has a spread of native and Spanish genes. Once you look for it you can see the spectrum.

[@GGGGAMER]

I went to school in Africa (Angola) and even other African people, Kenyan, Nigerian, etc were completely ostracized by the other Angolan students despite them being black as well. The Angolan students mostly hung out with other people that spoke Portuguese so other Portuguese, Brazilian, or Angolan people, it didnt matter the race. So i dont know what Nick is saying when he talks about "the black race" being united or whatever when it varies HUGELY between country. This was especially the case for any black american students (there were many because there were a lot of expat kids from oil families from the US doing work in Angola), the black americans didnt fit in whatsoever because there wasnt anything that bonded them with the other black angola kids.

[@ImJef]

Hell, even here in America there are huge divides between black people. Nutjobs like Tariq Nasheed have been pushing for an FBA (Foundational Black American) movement, where they distinguish themselves from African immigrants.

[@iwillgowiththatcat8667]

This ^^ it’s the same with the Caribbeans and Hispanic people a bit

[@chillin5703]

Universal truth. Race does not bind like people think it does outside of the US context, and even here it's changing rapidly.

[@itsjayh]

Hes a yt ignore him 😭

[@malbasedvalentine3210]

Except if these races had to decide who they’d rather be with, this race, or this race, Africans would be more comfortable living with a large majority African race. Same goes with Japanese, and Europeans.

[@KA-gy3lz]

Sneako admitting that he thinks prison is humans “natural state” is so telling 😂 SHEEPO

[@goldhamz]

Haha yeah that’s what happens when you live in NYC for too long

[@pickledokra2963]

Ain't no way

[@stbsole]

@@goldhamz as a native New Yorker, sneako is the furthest thing from a typical NYer. He strikes me as a sheltered kid who never dealt with the real world

[@zDoves]

@@stbsole but he does do public podcasts on the subway in mid day at the same spot. He does have balls you have to admit. How does he strike you as sheltered?

[@dorothymarias5771]

During that part I was just thinking how fucking dumb sneeko is 😂😂🤦🏽‍♀️

[@boshiwoshi]

It's so nice that Destiny can finally use his debate skills to convince more mainstream casual politicas people that are good faith rather than the bad faith people on the left and right.

[@thegamingmachine9316]

Yeah man meanwhile the internet lefties think talking to anyone who isn't precisely in their ideology is a net negative lmao who do they think is doing more good

[@nutty1582]

What?

[@ThePopbanks007]

Absolutely.

[@Caviareater]

Thanks for hosting Nick via posting this stream, Steve.

[@sasas2942]

Last year, Sneako said he identified more as Black when he was hanging out in the hood in NYC and saying the N-word. A few months ago, he made a video where he mentioned he identified more as Asian when he was supporting the anti - Asian hate movement and was criticizing BLM. I understand he may have issues with self identity etc but you don't have to shit on one side to support the other etc. This flipflopping makes him seem unreliable.

[@hubbabubba8083]

This was an awesome stream absolutely nutty lineup

[@QMS9224]

It’s crazy once you see something like this how can you ever go back to mainstream media, both the entertainment and message is not even close. This is free speech at its best!

[@C1umsyJester]

@@QMS9224 aba honestly hosts the best debates

[@HomoErectus311]

@@QMS9224 You always go back to mainstream media. Otherwise you become a conspiracy theorist lol.

[@FazeParticles]

@@HomoErectus311 state sponsored propaganda ain’t good for you.

[@Avi-tq6fd]

@@HomoErectus311 I haven't seen any mainstream media in 7 to 8 months. I still think I'm sane, except the fact I found some dark side on internet but I'm dealing with that and it has nothing to do with things here.

[@radricdavis8508]

Wether you agree or disagree with Nick, it’s cool that these guys can sit and peacefully and cordially discuss controversial opinions. If only the entire country could sit and have these talks - maybe we’d all be able to put our own prejudices aside and get some shit done

[@DODIRTT]

That's not how thst works. Nick will always have his racist feelings regardless of any argument that shows he's wrong. Some people can't be changed. I just like people can actually challenge these people but this will not lead to people being less hateful and prejudice against people. His fans will not change

[@DODIRTT]

@@TheBeigeRaider yes a few people might change their mind but a majority won't. We are dealing with people who passionately agree with a ideology. If they cared about facts they wouldn't follow these people. They would apply that same skeptical eye to the people they follow as well. People still believe in flat earth dispite the fact that a majority of them KZbinrs have been debunked and have lost numerous debates.

[@georgepoly4842]

@@DODIRTT of course he can be changed. And if you’ve ever met a real racist, meaning someone that considers other races “inferior” because of the color of their skin, then you’d know that Nick is far more reasonable than most of them. And there have been black men that have infiltrated the damn kkk and shown them the light. It sounds like Nick wants what we all want which is a better world. It also seems like he understood a lot of destiny’s points that the base of most conflict in the world has nothing to do with race. But he’s too far down his own rabbit hole that even if he changed his mind he wouldn’t admit it in fear of losing his follower base (which is largely comprised of racists)

[@DODIRTT]

@@georgepoly4842 I'm not talking about him specifically. I'm talking in general but I can go with nick in this scenario. He can change but it's highly unlikely he will. He is pretty set in what he believes. He's talked and debated with destiny and it's pretty clear from his content that he has no intention of making a change in his thinking. Keep in mind I'm from Oklahoma and I've met plenty of racist. Nick is probably smarter than alot of racist. I'll give him that. But that's because he believes in white nationalism. Usually they are smarter than the run of the mill racist. They base their beliefs on something more than feelings. They will use statistics. They will use arguments that seem sound if you have never debated or heard of them before. But in principle his perfect world is the same as a racist. I've seen his rethoric. He claims America is for white people his ultimate goal was to remove all non white people from the US. He claims he doesn't want to forcefully remove people and he like a some white nationalist are even OK with paying people to leave. But when pushed on this point he admits he would be OK with violence if people refuse. Which is the limey outcome because we have alot of people who where born in America that wouldn't leave willingly. People like this have a more solid foundation for their racist beliefs. A typical racist who doesn't care for number or even has arguments for why they hate/dislike a group of people. In both cases tho they will still have these views unless they make a effort themselves to change.

[@Jrce11]

@@DODIRTT pov: you watch too much Vaush

[@EricBilodeau-ln9vy]

1:10:00 even if you racially segrated prisons they wouldn't be any less violent. The most violent prisons in the world are in South and Central America and they're almost entirely racially homogeneous. Sure in America they break down over racial lines. But if they were segregated they'd break down over something else and it wouldn't make any difference

[@Panda-ii5tr]

the south is the most black place in america 😭

[@EricBilodeau-ln9vy]

@@Panda-ii5tr lol South America isn't the same thing as the south of America

[@montanac223344]

Aba is lowkey a great moderator, but everyone on this panel was entertaining, even Nick. And Aba and Jideon handled Nick's racist fuckery well

[@faxanadu1786]

*especially Nick

[@yohanasfaw5563]

*def not nick

[@jermainewilliams3421]

@Joe Forge Someone’s upset.

[@deeznutz8320]

@@jermainewilliams3421 Its a overused concept though. Someone goes streaking on the street people say: Hè low key naked

[@SomeJerkOnTheInternet]

from Aba, that's lowkey noble

[@JC06NJ]

"I like Nicks racism" -Sneako, 2022.

[@TheIrishGamer16]

sums up his ridiculous opinions sometimes.

[@pleaseclap5210]

It's not racist if it's true

[@1mikon]

Insane.

[@scriggle3564]

Nick doesn't even like him nor does any of his supremacist friends (his existence literally goes against their entire group) that's why he wasn't helped when he got punched at that Nick Fuentes rally

[@teddyytan]

It’s actually crazy to me that people with such polarizing beliefs can get along so well. I’ve grown too used to people screaming like idiots when someone has a different opinion

[@neklmae3375]

its called having an opinion or a belief, they dont prioritize their beliefs, they have personalities their belief isnt their whole personality

[@duen-wayneogilvie5223]

It says a lot about u and the 52 people who Like this if this is “crazy” to you.

[@polishspy3088]

@@duen-wayneogilvie5223 Okay duen wayne o glivie

[@AverageDonger]

it's not that crazy to me that people don't get along with someone who has such extreme views. I've cut ties with people because they voted that my best friend couldn't get married because he's gay. to me that seems pretty rational.. if you're actively trying to undermine and discriminate against people i care about, right?

[@teddyytan]

Never said it was bad I’m actually hopeful more people can be like this. Just talking bout how political figures/influencers (especially those who make money off their beliefs) will typically demonize the other relentlessly.

[@davidtg803]

Say what you want about Sneako, but this is one of the most entertaining debates

[@tamarirekhviashvili4142]

Destiny: “we all decent from Africa technically speaking” Sneako: “SAY THE N WORD THEN” bro take a fucking valium 💀💀💀

[@partlypillow1404]

Sneako was spot on. Destony get out with that bs lol

[@arnitaxavier9446]

@@partlypillow1404 Everyone on the planet can trace their DNA back to Africa as that's were humanity started, please explain where the bs is?

[@blacksabbath6227]

Destroyed Destiny's entire argument that we are all "one race" and "we can all get along"

[@jzhvaeduh]

@@partlypillow1404 how is science BS?

[@Abumustard6364]

@@jzhvaeduh Science obviously has no bearing on this. It doesn't matter if we're all one race if people treat each other like we aren't.

[@lexibrowning7447]

Don spoke soo much truth. There's so many people who use Christianity as a weapon and don't really live by it. People respect those who are sincere in their beliefs. I'm not necessarily a Christian, but the concept of Christianity to me is exactly what Don represents and I can respect that

[@justinr1513]

The whole concept of morality is derived from religion.

[@ddandymann]

@@justinr1513 Or alternately religious morality is derived from the inherent sense of morality that exists within humans.

[@TamamFlop]

@@ddandymannamong some humans, whites mostly.

[@NogGonnaMakeIt]

​@@TamamFloplol precisely

[@calidawg510]

God wanted us to be separate

[@Lebigboi64]

Nick explaining his No Fly list situation was hilarious 🤣

[@ZoggyWoggyII]

badge of honor

[@elijah8545]

Nick the terrorist 😂

[@elijah8545]

the thing about interracial marriages, though. I was like, "no wonder". No wonder he's banned from banks 😂

[@divinegon4671]

@@elijah8545 the majority of the world, and throughout history agree with the sentiment. U dense?

[@jamestomlin7011]

@@divinegon4671 ?

[@sheltonngwenya3281]

When Nick says to Destiny "you're a rat" hes basically saying "bruh, you wre white why are you calling me out on my white supremacy"😂

[@moos1n]

Destiny is fighting bravely in a violent, turbulent war for Sneako's very soul.

[@randybobandy9828]

Nick's trying to corrupt his soul.

[@offwhite6483]

@@randybobandy9828 Look like he won

[@randybobandy9828]

@@offwhite6483 good

[@offwhite6483]

@@randybobandy9828 If nick win that’s bad mate

[@chillin5703]

24:00 funny thing is, Aba is Ethiopian. Genetically speaking, Ethiopians derive anywhere from 20-60% of their ancestry in common with north africans and Levantines, and you can't tell who has what amount outside of extreme outliers. All of this to say, the arbitrary nature of these categories is confirmed by Nick saying Aba is "clearly black", because genetically he may be more similar to an Kenyan who's half Arab than a west African descendant like Jidion. This type of phenomenon plays out all over the world. Many southern Europeans visibly overlap with north Africans, Levantines, Arabs and so on. Many amerindians have darker skin and many have light skin even though they had little gene flow from elsewhere. And so on.

[@famitsus987]

Yep which is why they are not black black = west Africans Central Africans and Nilotics/Bantus only parts of Ethiopia have Nilotic dna but they are not racially black and don’t have dark skin most are pale tanned olive swarthy light brown etc

[@famitsus987]

Also no they don’t lol Southern Europeans don’t have anything to with Arabs and native North Africans aka berbers we’re closer to Levantines and south Europeans Yh

[@famitsus987]

Ethiopians and other Cushitic people are dark skinned Caucasians they are not racially the same as other dark Africans

[@HomoErectus311]

@@famitsus987 Well you would have to define black first and foremost and the majority of definitions will say African ancestry which is where Ethiopia is located.

[@themarathoncontinues4211]

@@famitsus987 idk why y’all like to keep calling yourselves “dark skinned caucasians” and all that bs. They don’t treat you that way and never have, your country literally translates to “burned people” doesn’t it? Just because there’s a different phenotype doesn’t mean you aren’t black. Why isn’t it possible for yous to be proud of being a Horner AND accept that you are black?

[@Yogurtstorm]

It's really awesome to see people with such different opinions being able to discuss and even argue without anyone throwing hissy fits of calling for cancellation. We need more of this.

[@Littlewings1984]

Ironic that three black men could have a more rational discussion with a nazi than most white commies can have with each other.

[@stoplyingabout]

I disagree. Tolerating the intolerant shouldn't be a continuous habit.

[@Donny_Double_Dip]

@@stoplyingabout why? Challenge the ideas openly. Nick sounds like an idiot. This is good.

[@stoplyingabout]

@@Donny_Double_Dip Challenge which idea exactly?

[@Donny_Double_Dip]

@@stoplyingabout all ideas…stopping the debate of ideas pushes bad ideas to dark corners of the internet and people listen to unchallenged bad ideas. That hurts much more than it helps. Free speech will basically police itself when you allow it to flow.

[@sickosau]

This stream was hilarious, needs to be a repeat panel

[@andrewcox5873]

Two things that came out of this: Needs to be a weekly panel, and Nick Fuentes dating show needs to happen

[@prgnify]

Man, imagine if each of them brought some weekly news that they wanted the others' opinion on.... pure content

[@jessedominguez543]

Permanent podcast.... Would one day challenge Joe Rogan's throne..

[@strawbearrySmoothie]

I doubt it would happen, but I'd love to see Preach get in on one too. His laugh is so fucking infectious.

[@aSSGoblin1488]

feel like the internet will throw fuentes under the bus but will welcome back sneako

[@armandoocana409]

Sneako literally running to his black friends saying "look at this crazy white dude I found"

[@nigelharvey640]

Then running to his white friends and saying “look at this cool white dude I found”

[@armandoocana409]

@@nigelharvey640 true! He really was stoked about everything else except the race stuff

[@petemoney451]

Nick is such a schmuck but goddamn does he make me laugh out loud sometimes.

[@ChrisGrant-t3f]

Great job everyone. Loved the conversation, the conflict yet still mostly respectful enough to get all different points out.

[@jeshua3214]

Aba’s face at 47:23 when Sneako states he has pretty similar views as Nick had me dying 😂

[@skullingtonfx4441]

Like seeing a black klansman

[@09BiGDylan]

hahaha thank you, had me dying

[@elienk8291]

Sneako is the best guy who knows a guy, that knows a guy. This was like a bridge being built between each major continent. Also so exciting to see this on fucking trending 😭

[@strangelitgirl]

😂

[@tyto9786]

Nick talking with mainstream creators like Jidion is both hilarious and terrifying

[@soupalot]

It’s awful. Not good at all.

[@innitbruv-lascocomics9910]

@@yeehaw3792 Fuentes is getting more attention from mainstream audiences. Not a good thing in general

[@zenithpath8707]

Blame Sneako

[@chiselchannel]

Agreed, opening Nick's views to a larger amount of uncritical, impressionable youngters is worrying. I know we should allow our views to be challenged but what is the use if we don't follow through and rebuttle the views of others?

[@TheJiminatorHS]

@@innitbruv-lascocomics9910 fuentes has a pac with sitting senators that visit every year. He's pretty mainstream

[@boazfortuijn4774]

the little gameplay window in the bottom left is so funny to me

[@c4binF3v3r]

Fighting a black roommate more than a white one over who's gonna sit on the sofa is one of the most ludicrous and nonsensical things I've ever heard.

[@andrewm8596]

he has a point

[@cmend]

@@andrewm8596 how?😂😂

[@andrewm8596]

@@cmend its just natural to fight people of other races

[@k0u2099]

@@cmend think a little harder

[@user-mv3ng8pp4b]

@@k0u2099 of course, just being ambiguous omg 😂

[@nyojnthe2402]

Nick literally answered a question with a question and immediately snapped "DON'T ANSWER A QUESTION WITH A QUESTION!"

[@lainlost5578]

Nick is a walking L

[@jesuslover4436]

Lmao it was a clarifying question you people are so brain damaged

[@javier14966]

This part annoyed me the most. He contradicts himself so much.

[@somtimesieat2411]

Watching Sneako’s stream where it went from 2->3->6 people was like the Sneako universe collapsing on itself

[@jacobchesney1558]

What gets me is, Destiny didn't really attack Nick, he just explained Nick's views in a neutral way, and Nick was really upset about it. It goes to show just how horrible his ideologies really are.

[@raez9424]

Neutral? Yeah okay

[@ianmacdonald4163]

​@@raez9424 okay then barely pushing the boundary of accusatory.

[@JiminyCrickets]

In a neutral way? What do you even mean, on what planet? What does neutral mean to you? Destiny did alot of "implying meanings" of nicks commentary and it usually was just very "ah, so you are just a racist" kind of deals, real insightful shit. Honestly, destiny was pretty fucking annoying in this. I love debating but what destiny demonstrated here was a conversation based on feelings (what he felt nick was saying) rather than topic driven. Alot of stuff nick was discussing was statistics yet everyone kept insisting like nick was asking for a genocide rather than prioritizing keeping a country in a stable state before accepting more immigrants...I really dont see whats so "aweful" or racist here.

[@gemini88miller]

He was letting him hang himself with his own rope

[@mr_poison2278]

​​@@JiminyCricketsruh do you seriously think that Nick is not racist? His whole premise is that groups of people, based solely on their race, are biologically (meaning genetically) different, which is not only factually incorrect but also racist. Since the premise is wrong, his conclusions are wrong. Also, how could one achieve Nicks goals without some kind of genocide or at least forced mass migration (which would be cultural genocide)? Do you really think that he's gonna convince everybody on the planet to go back to their ethnic roots? Thirdly, the "statistics" are not cited by Nick and he just presupposes causation instead of correlation.

[@JadedJag]

best panel i have seen yet, really glad to see such good content and collaborations with people actually interested in respectful, and overall good discourse lately

[@ayyyndrew-u]

Nick: I don’t think empirical data is the most important when it comes to truth Also Nick: cites the Bell Curve

[@marq_]

cant take him serious

[@GiorgiNemsitsveridze]

He didn't disregard data at all, he said you can't only rely on data, there's common sense and logic also. Look at Covid data being so fake, common sense won.

[@RockerBoy28]

pretty much a stance that lets him pick and choose what data works for his argument

[@jayz9578]

Based

[@uncleanon6445]

This is retarded on so many levels... IQ is a straight up measurement, like height for example. There is no way to interpret around this, so obviously it's important. Also he didn't even say it like that it depends on the subject matter you are discussing if deduction is sufficient or even more important than "some" data. This dwarf fried your brains.

[@ryanhill5137]

Random assortment of people on this panel but it was relentlessly entertaining. Sneako continues his fall to the dark side, but at least it's churning out some top notch content. Would love to see a convo with JiDion in the future. He's got a big audience of young men that might overlap with Sneako/Tate/Adin that could benefit from hearing him have these casual conversations about how nonsensical a lot of the hardcore redpill stuff is.

[@xbabu142x]

He is also DeMarcus Cousins, and Professional Raw Dogger as well. Making his wealth and capital at 21 as a black man in America, everything must be showcased to show people its not cute to look poor and reactionary.

[@vh9network]

2:08:00 how do you guys not realize there are White, Black and everything in between in Mexico, just as it is in United States America, and Canada. Feuntes is a Spanish sirname. Nick is part Mexican, but you guys always fail to ask him the racial make up of that, because it could very well be a White Mexican, i.e. straight descended from Spain.

[@RZ_VR]

SNEAKO’s chaotic energy in here “Destiny wants to say the N word so bad” and panicking saying “in Minecraft!” to correct Nick is hilarious!

[@R-Lee-]

What's with him saying in Minecraft? does he think it's some kind of magic spell that makes the algorithm not detect what's being said

[@uriNATE14]

@@R-Lee- yes he does. This is pre KZbin ban sneako and he legit thought that saying that was a loophole to say anything lmao

[@Tigo625]

Destiny and Nick actually have so much "real life best friend" energy, it's hilarious. White Hispanic brothers from different mothers, the yin to the yang, the left and the right.

[@anthony7960]

Damn this is so true

[@daddyfuse50]

@@coreyander286 Spamming motte-and-baileys everywhere because you learned a new phrase to not have to argue, pretty cringe.

[@pookz3067]

@@daddyfuse50 lol when someone casually uses a phrase and this is how you respond it’s kind of a self report dude

[@daddyfuse50]

@@pookz3067 when it's the fifth time I've read it in a comment string its pretty obvious someone just learned a new catch phrase. "Self-report" i don't speak online ebonics bro, no idea what you're talking about

[@niks.8957]

@@daddyfuse50 You’re probably seeing it so much because that’s actually what he’s doing, do you even know what the Motte and Bailey fallacy is?

[@PreDaToReLeaSeD]

sneako is just a follower, he picks the most outlandish person in the discussion and clings onto them to try to appear strong by the leeching off their strength, he has no opinion or backbone, that way if they fail or go too far he can pull back alittle and let them fail on their own sword.

[@bajio3118]

1:23:21 its absolutely insane to me that nick is complaining about immigration "in the last 30 years" as if immigration isnt the literal basis of the US as a whole. Him also saying thet WHITE people should be the core of the US is absurd when the literal NATIVE AMERICANS have been here for MUCH longer than white people have 😭

[@Sksneyeisnhseuwksn827]

Look at the Declaration of Independence no natives only white men

[@butthatsnottrue.]

So sad the hatred towards white people is everywhere.

[@brandont2690]

If people in your daily life look at you strange after you said something it's because it's really dumb.

[@wowman542]

This debate was so legendary, it got the breadtube haters to take notice of this. AMAZIN

[@theunitedworldofworkers7274]

Always attacking the left & befriending people like Fuentes here Sounds like destiny‘s community

[@sharsasuke01]

Fuck breadtube. Let them cannibalize themselves.

[@randybobandy9828]

What ones specifically

[@razzle_dazzle]

Where - on Reddit? Or did some of the creators react to this on KZbin?

[@randybobandy9828]

@@razzle_dazzle probably twitter.

[@niclastname]

Sneako brushed off Destiny's point about how being corporate-friendly and ad-safe is the reason people are able to make so much money, but that's a very important point. They never want to acknowledge it because it's one of the huge plot holes that destroys their conspiracy. They're allowed to make their own platforms, but if your platform is controversial then brands don't want to associate with it. Companies want to make money, and the vast majority of the time, controversy is harmful to marketability and income (that's literally what the 'adpocalypse' was). KZbin wouldn't be banning these people if they weren't harming their income. KZbin doesn't promote X creator because "They push a message we like". They promote them because they're brand-safe and therefore bring in a lot of money and help KZbin's reputation, which in turn feeds into that brand-safe environment that brings in more money. Corporations aren't working against their own self-interest to "push an agenda". They put on whatever image brings in more money, and being clean and uncontroversial reduces the friction between dollars and the wallets that they're coming out of. Same reason some companies in a highly saturate market like Black Rifle Coffee will market as "controversial and pro-Trump" while their higher ups donate to Democrats. Because it's hard to make it big in the _highly_ saturated coffee market. If you market to that group though, you'll stand out to them and help your brand grow. If that image was hurting their brand, they wouldn't do it. If they marketed as a woke coffee brand, they'd get no traction because there are millions of those already. Everyone knows that they would if there weren't though. If they'd be bigger doing that, they would. People like Sneako will say "down with the system", while they actively do whatever it takes to stay in the system because the system is the reason they get rich. And the system is that way BECAUSE it provides opportunity to make that income. They can't/don't want to acknowledge that fact. They can't admit that they _say_ "fuck the system", but won't actually leave/dismantle the system because it's the only reason that they can thrive as much as they do. They couldn't garner anywhere near as much success without these huge and high-income platforms, and the reason these platforms are so huge and high-income is because they cater to being brand-friendly. They act like the system holds them back, but it's the exact opposite. The system's insistence on ousting controversy is the only reason they're successful, and thus the only reason Sneako et al are successful. They have to dodge the fact that the system is what it is _because it works._ That hints to the fact that their conspiracy is unfounded. It's not about "control". Nobody is stopping you from going to Cozy with Nick, and nobody can stop it from doing what it wants. You're just going to lose a lot of reach and income. You lose most of the benefits of the system that you have to conveniently sweep under the rug that's on the floor of your bank safe lol. *TL;DR:* _The system isn't a conspiracy. The system is designed the way that works for the most people, and is the reason you (people like Sneako) have any success. The system doesn't care about your beliefs. The system simply doesn't want you to hurt the function of the system, which is income. Controversial figures harm the income. That's all the system cares about. It's not a secret cabal of secret shadow governing figures._

[@yellowbrand]

Companies are very willing to be controversial if it means being uber progressive. Doesn't that bust your whole theory?

[@sammorgan5449]

Well super progressive companies would be carving out a niche like conservatives companies, like the commentor pointed out.

[@yellowbrand]

@@sammorgan5449 this is not reflective of the real world. Companies that already have sizable market share will engage in progressive activism which is inherently controversial.

[@Rcurtis777]

@@yellowbrand they aren’t doing anything groundbreaking, companies only roll with the status quo

[@yellowbrand]

@@Rcurtis777 it isn’t the status quo. Progressives are a minority of Americans.

[@superhamz7]

It Physically hurts hearing redpillers brutalize ideas of Islam in their arguments, like bro, you're the epitome of the person we are warned against

[@themarathoncontinues4211]

Facts, they need to leave religion out of their talking points. Most immoral group there is

[@Everythingmaxxer]

Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: On 'Id ul Fitr or 'Id ul Adha Allah's Apostle (p.b.u.h) went out to the Musalla. After finishing the prayer, he delivered the sermon and ordered the people to give alms. He said, "O people! Give alms." Then he went towards the women and said. "O women! Give alms, for I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-Fire were you (women)." The women asked, "O Allah's Apostle! What is the reason for it?" He replied, "O women! You curse frequently, and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. O women, some of you can lead a cautious wise man astray." Then he left. Sahih Bukhari 2:24:541 Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: Once Allah's Apostle went out to the Musalla (to offer the prayer) o 'Id-al-Adha or Al-Fitr prayer. Then he passed by the women and said, "O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women)." They asked, "Why is it so, O Allah's Apostle ?" He replied, "You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you." The women asked, "O Allah's Apostle! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?" He said, "Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?" They replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Isn't it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?" The women replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her religion." Sahih Bukhari 1:6:301 Narrated 'Abdullah bin Abbas: The people say, "O Allah's Apostle! We saw you taking something from your place and then we saw you retreating." The Prophet replied, "I saw Paradise and stretched my hands towards a bunch (of its fruits) and had I taken it, you would have eaten from it as long as the world remains. I also saw the Hell-fire and I had never seen such a horrible sight. I saw that most of the inhabitants were women." The people asked, "O Allah's Apostle! Why is it so?" The Prophet replied, "Because of their ungratefulness." Sahih Bukhari 2:18:161 When one is given a woman, servant, or cattle, one should seize its forehead and pray to Allah. Ibn-i-Majah vol.3 no.1918 p.157 Treat women well, for they are like domestic animals (awan) with you and do not possess anything for themselves. al-Tabari vol.9 p.113 Jabir reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) saw a woman, and so he came to his wife, zainab, as she was tanning a leather and had sexual intercourse with her. He then went to his Companions and told them: The woman advances and retires in the shape of a devil, so when one of you sees a woman, he should come to his wife, for that will repel what he feels in his heart. Sahih Muslim 8:1038 Narrated Abdullah bin Qais: Allah's Apostle said, "In Paradise there is a pavilion made of a single hollow pearl sixty miles wide, in each corner of which there are wives who will not see those in the other corners; and the believers will visit and enjoy them. Sahih Bukhari 6:60:402 Narrated Abu Bakra: During the battle of Al-Jamal, Allah benefited me with a Word (I heard from the Prophet). When the Prophet heard the news that the people of the Persia had made the daughter of Khosrau their Queen (ruler), he said, "Never will succeed such a nation as makes a woman their ruler." Sahih Bukhari 9:88:219 Those who humble themselves in their prayers; Who avoid vain talk; Who are active in deeds of charity; Who abstain from sex, Except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom their right hands possess,- for (in their case) they are free from blame. Quran 23:6; see also Quran 4:3 & Quran 4:24 Narrated Qatada: Anas bin Malik said, "The Prophet used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day and night and they were eleven in number." I asked Anas, "Had the Prophet the strength for it?" Anas replied, "We used to say that the Prophet was given the strength of thirty (men)." And Sa'id said on the authority of Qatada that Anas had told him about nine wives only (not eleven). Sahih Bukhari 1:5:268

[@Everythingmaxxer]

Nah, Muhammed (pbuh) was arguably the most redpilled man in history Bro had 11 wives. Can you get more redpilled than that?

[@superhamz7]

@@Everythingmaxxer okay "Frank"

[@mooael3796]

@@superhamz7 dudes giving sahih hadith my guy

[@Tehgamerstation]

Tbh this is bad from Destiny. Pretending not to know the difference between race and ethnicity. Then complaining that Nick has to spend time explaining his position because Nick doesn't have the dime-a-dozen position on everything that everyone else has. Vaush-tier bad faith here.

[@Tehgamerstation]

@Default No

[@noisemagician]

Afghanistan is not ethnically homogenous, there are 16 different ethnicities, It is religiously homogenous.

[@pogo8050]

And also afghans look very different. Some of them just look white and others look like East Asians

[@liam-qr1un]

Yeah so much conflict in Afghanistan happens between the pashtuns and every other ethnic group

[@noisemagician]

@@pogo8050 I am mix from my dad's side they all look Asian. From my mom side they look Persian/white.

[@horouathos8199]

It is anything but homogenous but political commentators and influencers are idiots.

[@alphana7055]

Central afghanistan is overwhelmingly Shia

[@xmantrader136]

This stream was better than anything I've watched on twitch in months tbh

[@victoriousfoulks7910]

The panelist on this debate are from corners of twitch and KZbin I never thought would ever interact, it’s kinda dope lol Good Debate.

[@Winasaurus]

The argument of "But we changed the country when we took it from natives" is such a bad one. We sure did, but that doesn't mean it was a good thing to do. It's not really comparable. Noone would blame natives for fighting back, but people do blame people like Nick for fighting back against what he perceives as a similar threat.

[@snooziblu]

@Ek-up6utlol fat boy here’s gotta a big brain over here xD

[@momelendez9691]

@Ek Explain why reservations exist and why the “Indian” wars happened….😐