Wild Conspiracy Debate Turns Into Even Crazier IQ Debate ft. SNEAKO

[@destiny]

The heated debate that got Destiny to agree to watch a 5 hour documentary on 9/11 in prep for a debate... Fresh And Fit Host Joins HEATED Sneako Debate, Gives Details ►kzbin.info/www/bejne/n2iuio15mdR2nNE

[@OrdoAbChao-kg5rf]

Documentary: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKKcn4iGqJeFd80

[@ericeddy02]

You slipped up on this one because you got heated. Wikipedia can be publicly edited; only a very select few articles are locked for edits. And the government 1000% is keeping secrets now. You realize the major difference between the 1940s and 1950s is the NSA. Have you even listened to Snowden? They are keeping loads, LOADS, of shit secret.

[@jimporfit]

"we would have heard the tower 7 explosions once the cameras were rolling," nah, they detonated earlier. If the debris could cause it to fall, then you could definitely help.

[@KeeppieTV]

@Sam People do tend to interpret words as they please, especially when we have a debate with someone! Sometimes it is intentional and sometimes it is not. Think about it? =D

[@KeeppieTV]

@@captainphoenix CONTEEEEEEEEEENT is your reason =D

[@charleshelou6906]

Nick and Destiny are like a demon and an angel on Sneako's shoulders arguing except that Sneako is deaf on the left ear.

[@deep_and_profound_topics]

lmfao

[@hotzebruh6331]

🤣

[@StillNoPickles69]

@Lukas Massey real

[@LNMBEATS]

hahahhahahah

[@Americansikkunt]

LOL

[@rainingentertainment3104]

The way Sneako sits there smiling and laughing like he’s not absolutely clueless lmao

[@aarongarcia5667]

Your mom is clueless

[@georgehall6597]

He smiles because he’s clueless lol

[@Dananite]

He’s smiling and laughing because he enjoys watching two people debate, you guys are just finding anything to attack him on.

[@rainingentertainment3104]

@@Dananite i like Sneako he’s just not very educated in certain areas and tries to debate in areas where he’s not the strongest.

[@Mmm_Kay]

@Dananite its wild how many people simp for sneako lmaoooo I bet all of ya call yourselves alpha too☠️

[@damnedifido1062]

Wouldn’t surprise me if Sneako has a Nick Fuentes Poster above his race car bed

[@tntnyny]

Is the educating morons arc? Wtf am I seeing so much of this pinched nose punk sneako. God I thought the Lauren Southern redemption arc was bad. This is worse.

[@ProxiProtogen]

Hey, stop dissing race car beds, they're cool asf

[@lossnt557]

@Sam ok thats just not true. The sources are there, you can easily click through and verify them if you want. The only person stopping you from verifying a wiki source is yourself

[@Ttyumbra]

Nah he’s trolling until he goes to the next arc

[@bringinthedope5929]

@@lac7141 the sheer disgust lol. But his army will call him based and brave

[@The_Bobby_Jay]

Sneako straight looks like he doesn’t know what he thinks and is working hard to remember the talking points. It is all performative from the looks of it.

[@8Bitzzz]

Its bcs he is albanian the africans of europe with a 80 iq

[@jdawg8475]

Sneak has the smoothest brain. This is hard to watch someone this wrong and confused be this confident.

[@906AKORN]

It’s called the dunning Kruger effect. Look it up it perfectly fits to sneako n the rest of the right wing crazies who believe every conspiracy.

[@viralvidsrepository4632]

He is the reason that fathers should vette a guy before marrying their daughter. A young girl may be fooled by his confidence, but there is zero competence to back that confidence up.

[@RR-et6zp]

sneako is legit

[@Unholy_11]

@@RR-et6zp legit what? Legit idiot? Legit crackpot?

[@30MinToNewOrleans]

How is he wrong?

[@SteveDawgNZ]

Amazing that Sneako calls Destiny a bot, but also criticizes Destiny for watching a documentary with skepticism and investigating the claims it makes. Literally the opposite of bot behavior. Sneako is the bot who watches a documentary and slurps up all the claims it makes.

[@poadude]

“wHy CaNt yOu juST wAtCH a mOvIe”

[@jjusa00]

It’s clear sneako isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed. He’s not stupid, but the way he articulates and approaches a debate is just setting himself up for failure

[@Tarotainment]

Depends

[@AuschwitzMyPants]

Destiney isn’t “watching a documentary with skepticism and investigating claims it makes” lmfao. Destiney is going into the documentary with a pre conceived notion that there is no conspiracy about 9/11 and everything the government says about it is 100% true. He isn’t skeptical at all he clearly states in this video he doesn’t believe any conspiracies about 9/11. The only investigating he is going to do is read corporate media articles that denounce any non approved government facts or questions about 9/11. Like Sneako said liberals are literally bots.

[@airhawk01]

He is not well informed. That is why he falls back a lot when when D and N go at it. However, he thinks he is well informed. Therefore, the cringe when he tags into the debate.

[@mekullag]

Sneako: “I am a rational, free thinker who goes where the evidence leads.“ Also Sneako: “You want to reseach a topic before speaking on it?? L.“ At some point the good will he‘s accumulated with Destiny through a few good videos has to run out, right?

[@PandaWarriorTT]

The guys like to learn on the journey. He is ok with being wrong and making mistakes.

[@wyred]

@@PandaWarriorTT For being ok to make mistakes he gets offended really fast when his point gets challenged. (Talking about Sneako here)

[@env0x]

depends if sneako can handle the heat. he may have thick skin from talking to people on the streets but up against pro debaters he'll have to learn some new tricks or he'll just end up getting lost in the sauce.

[@env0x]

@Arjun Ravichandran yea. kinda sucks because he was a pretty intelligent kid. seems he's reached a point where he doesn't value knowledge and learning as much, or he thinks it's all fake or whatever. he needs to get to get back to a point where he starts valuing intelligence and actual truth over performative skepticism and clout. unlikely i'd say, but he has recently started turning away from the tate crowd and stopped defending tate so who knows.

[@moosepotato4116]

Sneako: men are more rational, women just act on emotion. Also Sneako: literally screaming and freaking the fuck out and barely able to form cohesive sentences when someone doesn't instantly believe that Joe Biden controls a GameFAQs forum.

[@SirSlimez]

39:04 bro said it💀

[@drugheadnocap-ou2mx]

lmaooo it was perfect

[@MeatMonsterMan]

Is Steben trying to slowly train Sneako to utilize as a debate assassin against Hasan? I think the best position Destiny holds is that he would sacrifice damn near anything to undo Hasan, he never intended to create such an abomination. And now he must create.... To destroy his former creation... This is canonical, I hope.

[@moonknight4053]

Fuckin hell hahahaha

[@EEEEEEtwothousand]

Love this

[@living-vt2he]

Stay tuned…

[@marlonese]

This is the best conspiracy theory I've ever heard in my entire life

[@jawsh5628]

Chill dude. Everything that Steven does doesn't have to be in direct juxtaposition to Hasan. He's trying to help Sneako

[@joeybwalsh]

Destiny: “I don’t have time to look into it” Nick: “you don’t have time?! You’re a professional streamer!” 😂

[@joshanderson924]

Because he will get dismantled

[@Unholy_11]

@@joshanderson924 you’re kidding right?

[@joshanderson924]

@@Unholy_11 facts don't care about your feelings

[@Unholy_11]

@@joshanderson924 so you reckon he would be dismantled on the moon landings huh? You’re a joke, the guy couldn’t dismantle Lego.

[@Unholy_11]

@@joshanderson924 the pair of them, sneako and nick are half wits buddy, they’re literally room temperature IQ’s.

[@QuixEnd]

Sneako is just as confident about these beliefs as my cousin with schizophrenia. and they both think they're 5-head open minded free thinking truth seekers

[@mr.smitherine1913]

The schizos possess secret and arcane truths

[@genestarwind4610]

“Keep an open mind but not so open that your brain falls out.” _Richard Feynman

[@Extraterrestrial-Bilu]

@@user-ym6pu4vn4t More importantly, Sneako getting his 20 wives would be much more difficult in Nick's world.

[@nathawes17]

I honestly haven't seen a more braindead political streamer than Sneako. That says a lot.

[@nathawes17]

@@user-ym6pu4vn4t Sneako doesn't have a functional brain. Don't hold it against him.

[@ethanmiller4807]

The government is withholding critical information about suspicious controversial events Destiny: you think the post office employees are lying to you?

[@joshanderson924]

🤣

[@Sealwithwificonnection]

It's insane. He knows his audience is dumb enough to not catch on to what he's doing but it's clear as day he's deflecting

[@jgofimusic]

@@Sealwithwificonnection yeah and then when they try to question him he says he literally doesn't know what he's talking about and they should ask him about MRNA vaccines. Kinda sad to see someone intelligent that just doesn't question anything or think critically

[@burritobandit45]

You can literally see sneako’s brain scramble when Destiny and Nick go back n forth.

[@richcohen5936]

It’s his black side of the brain..

[@mcbltgaming3694]

@WHITES LOVE MY PLAYLISTS chill. You don't need to make race your entire life.

[@amp4105]

@WHITES LOVE MY PLAYLISTS 🥸🤓

[@mcbltgaming3694]

@WHITES LOVE MY PLAYLISTS maybe you should focus on gaming. Itll make you a little less cringe

[@anon681]

39:07 why DID NICK say the N word and act like he can get away with it

[@AndreMillerSwag]

Sneako out here celebrating Nick, someone who inadvertently said they don’t want him existing, winning an inherently biased-poll, which says Nick won the debate is absolutely crazy. If Destiny flips this dude I’ll eat her out. Edit: For all the people denying a very simple conclusion that can be drawn from Nick’s ideology, I’ll spell it out for you. Nick thinks race mixing is degenerate and argues against it. In his ideal world there would be no race-mixing, therefore in his ideal world, Sneako would not exist. Also, hilariously and ironically he himself would not exist either. If you can’t come to this conclusion yourself, then you’re as smooth as the “is this a jojo’s reference” people or acting in bad faith. Get dominated.

[@bertthompson4748]

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[@ubuu7]

need clarification If Destiny (presumed female cuz name) flips Sneako (effectively grooms him to go gay... I mean straight but knocked off conspiracy nut track) WonderOfU will be so elated he will eat Destiny out as a reward? Did I get that right?

[@zetazero5899]

Sneako is easily manipulated which is perfect for Nick.

[@DarkestKnightshade]

Dang...uhhhh what?!

[@alex-qd6of]

@@lamwam5065 he thinks race mixing is an abomination.

[@Seri-dy5dd]

The issue with sneako is that even though he talks with people outside his community, I feel like he doesn’t genuinely engage with them, at least not as much as he could. I think he’s already made up his mind that he’s right and that there is nothing that will change his mind. If something he argues starts to fall apart, it’s not that he could be mistaken, but that his opponent is being bad faith or using manipulative tactics. I feel like he wants to be the type of person who “isn’t afraid to talk to people outside his bubble”, but is not actually genuinely engaging with people outside his bubble. It reminds me of the kid in school who says he likes to read books and study philosophy, even though he never engages with it and just half-way regurgitates everything. The type of person who doesn’t really understand or care about such things,but who just wants to be perceived as and perceive themselves as the type of person who does to satisfy their own ego. Edit: Ik Sneako is young and that it’s not realistic to expect him to be some master debater or great faith guy. I’m young too so I forgot to consider that. Also it’s probably hard for him to admit to being wrong/confused on the spot because his audience would give him shit.

[@bird6472]

I think that's his outward projection of it. He doesn't want to be seen as wrong (and therefore weak) so he outwardly dismisses it but internally it's different. I really do think he thinks about the things Destiny says afterwards, maybe hours/days after -- I feel that way because Sneako took a back seat to Destiny on F&F and he still talks with Destiny. And in my experience, growing up in the inner city you kind of have to put up a front a lot to show you're not weak. But who knows, I could be 100% wrong and Destiny isn't getting through to him.

[@imdunes]

Alot of assumptions going on there and based on that i can say the same about you. It easy to say you just arent engaging with or understanding what he is saying.

[@L1vingAshlar]

Sneako's unreachable, it's about Destiny being on his platform hopefully converting his fans. I doubt Destiny viewers will shift his way, so it should be a net positive.

[@realeques]

he's just not that smart and that's ok.

[@2duce274]

And destiny does change his mind? He went into the 9/11 documentary saying he’s gonna debunk everything and disprove all the claims.

[@Izanagi057]

These 3 together is honestly such a funny trio. They remind me of me and my friends saying the most outlandish shit arguing with each other.

[@gabecoomes7841]

It is ridiculous how charitable we are to Sneako. He is deadass in his young twenties preaching to someone old enough to have lived through 9/11. He clearly hasn't dont a large amount of research or anything, hes just more concerned about being anti-establishment

[@jperry253]

Sneako is proving he's just a fucking tool for his chat. He's getting views (and therefore dollars) for being like this and that's all he cares about. He has no desire to become a more decerning human.

[@sagefields5847]

There are people old enough to have lived through 9/11????

[@ArmoredSoul1]

Nick is also in his early 20s too. Both these guys are super fucking young lol

[@Hekinsieden]

@@sagefields5847 Boomlennials

[@onseayu]

you say that as if being old enough to have lived through something grants you any insight or better understanding of an event. not true.

[@niclastname]

It's so annoying that both nick and sneako constantly praise Destiny for being honest, yet they always just claim he's being dishonest in a debate as a smokescreen when they're losing on something.

[@EEEEEEtwothousand]

Time code?

[@niclastname]

@@EEEEEEtwothousand sneako did it twice right in the first 6 minutes, and it happens throughout. Nick does it to him in every debate. "You're obfuscating you're obfuscating you're obfuscating you're obfuscating".

[@AntiTheBird]

@@Polycubism “He’s honest except for when he’s saying things I don’t like” ftfy

[@Iridyon_M]

@@Polycubism So basically, you only think he's honest when he reaffirms your confirmation bias.

[@AveSequoia]

He is a lot but in his huge audience panels he always defaults to typical gotcha or “oh you said the bad thing that means your the no no guy”

[@note4note804]

The most telling part of this little interaction is when Destiny asks for time to research a conspiracy theory, and sneako just blurts out, "tomorrow?". Just goes to show what he thinks is involved in actually learning about the world.

[@MrMentalpuppy]

True

[@willb2481]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@radred609]

Sneako reminds me of teenage me. He likes the idea of being a learned individual but doesn't actually weant to put in the time and effort to actually learn about things. Watching conspiracy theory videos on youtube is not "research" He literally makes fun of Destiny for wanting to do "homework" before trusting a random youtube video

[@notallowedtobehonest2539]

@@radred609 or he just doesn't want us viewers to watch destiny read a bunch of cherry picked articles. You can say the sky is blue without needing research. "Wheres your sources?" Is the biggest red flag for someone who has never left their security bubble...

[@feldwebeljackrum6272]

In Addition, he called Destinys research condescendingly homework...🤦‍♂️ it gets harder and harder every day calling sneako "intelligent"...

[@xdCrispy-Crisss]

The way Sneako and Nick react to destiny needing notes for a DOCUMENTARY, is very telling. A documentary is meant to be informative in some capacity, having context notes for the topic and taking notes on the source material you’re consuming is a great way to cut through any exaggeration to get the real truth. Propaganda exists in the “Official” and “Conspiracy” narratives.

[@TheJawRaw]

I actually understand why Sneako didn’t want him too. I realized it at the end. Sneako thinks that destiny won’t give it an honest watch and will just look at ways to disprove it without actually taking in the information. (Which is NOT what Destiny would do obviously) and then after looking at through a biased lens destiny would bring up counterpoints that Sneako isn’t smart enough to speak on to refute it. The irony is the exact opposite would happen. Destiny would watch it and be objective as possible, research the differences in claims and reach a conclusion. Too bad it didn’t happen because I think Destiny could change Sneako’s mind

[@Unholy_11]

What do you expect from two guys who believe in an invisible sky daddy. 😂

[@eetswalads5528]

@@ScuffedLandlord That was an ungodly amount of assertions in one sentence. Destiny could have flaked for a ton of reasons but, you chose the "hE wAs ScAReD oF tHE TrUtH" option... genius.

[@darbyohara]

That’s not why he wants time. It’s a deflection and distraction tactic. It’s not viewing one source of evidence in good faith and open minded. You don’t need to do research before watching an expose. You watch it, take notes down, then go and research AFTER the claims are made. He doesn’t understand how research works. He’s not a smart person.

[@eetswalads5528]

​@@darbyohara You clearly have zero clue how research works. If you're watching an exposé which intends to rebut claims presented by a study/investigation/group/etc. then you must have a thorough understanding of the initial claims to make an assessment of the veracity of that rebuttal. Otherwise, your engagement with the argument will rely upon other rhetorical strategies that the exposé uses because you have no foregrounding to critically evaluate its arguments. Like, if they claim that steel beams melt at 10,000°C and you have ZERO understanding of that melting point to give an approximation of what it may actually be... how are you meant to assess if that's true or not? If anyone's "not a smart person", it's you, my friend.

[@tamarirekhviashvili4142]

I’m so impressed by Destiny’s patience. I feel like he wants to grab Sneako and shake him like a baby who won’t shut up

[@rememberme3762]

Sneako would beat him up

[@iwannabethekid34xc]

@@rememberme3762 Fax

[@nrman66]

W sneako

[@nathawes17]

If Destiny turned on his old school debater mode then he would destroy Sneako. Hell, my 8 year old sister could destroy Sneako in a debate. Just remain patient until he starts screaming reee and let him bury his own opinions.

[@chasepalumbo2929]

Shakin babies all day in this bitch

[@pauliePwalnuts]

The fight for Sneakos very online soul continues...

[@ChenKaifeng]

lmao

[@ericdumois1478]

It’s a wasted fight. Let him go lmao.

[@pauliePwalnuts]

@@ericdumois1478Nooo Sneakos soul is worth fighting for! Its the key to the future and we must not let it be corupted!

[@thehighcommunity247]

😁💯

[@anddudewaslike]

I’ve never heard someone speak so confidently while being objectively wrong, as Sneako.

[@TropicalBlend001]

It’s actually amazing.

[@ReubMann]

It's fucking scary. I'm not convinced there's any argument he could hear that would change his insane beliefs

[@johannesstephanusroos4969]

What than Sneako?

[@notallowedtobehonest2539]

So you dont know any women?

[@TwiceBaked2]

This is ridiculous, the fact Sneako has fans that think he is correct is just mind blowing. He debates with people that are obviously smarter and have done more research than him and he still demands respect from an intelligence standpoint, while blurting off information he is either reading in front of him or knows nothing about.

[@ennieminee4470]

Destiny admits that some of the most powerful departments in the govt are capable and very likely keeping secrets or acting improperly….but because the railroad commissioner and the post office staff isn’t in on it the statement “the government is lying to you” is completely asinine!

[@PurpleFiiilth]

"The government is lying to you" is a meaningless statement. It might be true to some extent but you need to be more specific. "The government lies to you, therefore conspiracies are true" is just a brain dead take, which is pretty much what Sneako does.

[@ennieminee4470]

@@PurpleFiiilth I’m not referencing a specific conspiracy theory. A conspiracy theory by definition isn’t provable otherwise it would just be a conspiracy. I’m merely addressing that the government hiding things from its people regarding their foreign and domestic operations under the guise of “security” or “sources and methods” should not be an acceptable. We should know what exact actions our government takes in order to vote with confidence.

[@Osadni]

Man Sneako is the epitome of opening your mind so far with no grounding in how to actually determine what is correct. Dogshit epistemics

[@nunyabidness9692]

Therein lies the issue. Sneako could actually learn how to think critically, how to justify his reasoning, etc. but that’s not what his viewers want. He’s an entertainer masquerading as a free thinker so he’s not gonna act in a way that will harm him

[@marlonese]

I still can't believe that sneako is a real person

[@callmeacutekitten8106]

@@marlonese i can't belive any destiny fans being smart

[@socio637]

@@nunyabidness9692 I swear I’ve seen you type this almost verbatim on other vids

[@nunyabidness9692]

@@socio637 nah I’m pretty sure I’ve never commented anything about sneako before. I’m sure there’s hundreds if not thousands of people with my exact name on youtube

[@thatsreallyamoon]

All Nick had to do to win was subtly remind the audience that Destiny is a girl's name.

[@Starlok007]

Amayzin

[@intermediate212]

Not true. Destiny would have countered and reminded the audience that Nick is short for Nicole (a girl's name)

[@Starlok007]

@@intermediate212 The great debate between baytas

[@failadin1]

As soon as you gotta explain Wikipedia to someone.. the conversation is over lmfao

[@ANTIStraussian]

Bet them $20 bucks they can't edit an Abraham Lincoln wiki page

[@godsstrength7129]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZq1mH2Pgtxpj6M

[@GBGB000]

Bro, can't you see the conspiracy? Connect the dots: Wikipedia -> Internet -> Silicon Valley -> Zuckerberg -> Jews!

[@andrewcox5873]

This is why I don’t even mention Wikipedia in a debate it causes conservative brain rot

[@Kasukke]

@Rose Anne Boushard it's not the same. Watch that part again

[@ianx-cast6289]

Destiny thinks the government cannot lie to you because there are "oversight pannels" LMAO!😅

[@ek5273]

Sneako is like the 14 year old atheist who just found out that Noah's arc is BS and now thinks that makes him a genius

[@FXKNate]

I’m upset that you just described me when I was 14

[@A-iv6pg]

@@b1bbscraz3y out of atheism?

[@DirtCobaine]

@@FXKNate LOL true I went as far as drawing upside down crosses on my binders and backpack with triple sixes not because I was a satanist but because I thought I was a genius and cool for going against the norm. Essentially thought I was woke before the word woke means what it means today lol

[@FXKNate]

@@DirtCobaine lmao thankfully I never went down the atheist-satanist route. My logic was, why follow the teachings of something with a conceptual basis in a religion I don’t even believe in. Kinda defeats the whole point

[@DirtCobaine]

@@FXKNate true! Like I said I tend to resent things and feel the need to outwardly express it. I went from being a straight edge faithful catholic to being a completely degenerate with a hedonistic lifestyle. I’ll tell you what though I was the most empty inside when I was atheist and hedonistic. Because I cared how others viewed me, I wanted people to know that I went against the grain. It wasn’t enough that I knew that myself. Which is why I outwardly expressed it with that satanic bs. But now I wouldn’t say I’m religious because I don’t know if I am, but I do believe in a god, and I do read scripture from various faiths and I abstain. Basically straight edge again. And I’m the happiest I’ve been. So that’s why I say I think Sneako doesn’t actually believe in all the red pill stuff deep down. I mean sure there is some he does truly believe, but you get an instant gratification from antagonizing the people you resent the most and that means spouting nonsense really loudly lol even if you don’t believe most of it

[@legmog]

Good Lord.... When Sneako first arrived in the ''Destiny'sphere'', I figured.... You know what? I disagree with this Rabbit hole he's gone down completely... But beneath it all, I THINK there's a sound / cool guy. I was mostly sorta on board with Destiny's take of ''well ya know, he's still young. He has potential. Maybe we can help shift him in a more positive direction''. And because of that, I could look past a lot of his bluster and be charitable to the guy. But recently?.... Mannnnn.... The ''Sneako charity factor'' is QUICKLY drying up real fast. The CONSTANT interruptions, the CONSTANT blind 'machine gunning' out of idiotic conspiracy theory sound bites, the CONSTANT invoking of a 1 dimensional world view which can be surmised wholly as ''right good, left bad''.... All filtered through loud, shrill, angry shouting (but we're supposed to believe the Red Pill take that men are these calm, measured and stoic Logic Lords. Interesting when he's acting anything BUT that...) He's the absolute mirror image of the ''insane blue haired SJW'' stereotype... The Anti-SJW Big Red, the Anti-SJW Trigglypuff. Blerggg... Just had to vent lol. I hope I'm wrong, but I can't see that Destiny is having any effect on this dude, whose seeming SO entrenched right now.

[@cngotham4111]

It take alot if Convos to change people's mind. Although I will admit it would pretty hard to change sneakos mind he thinks he's figured every little thing out. But idk destiny got him from wanting 20 girls to 4 solid girls so I guess that's a little improvement.

[@kenzistar1569]

That part

[@adrianmerisier22]

he only listens to respond, he doesnt grasp anything from these conversations

[@willb2481]

I think its for the views mostly. Definitely seems like a cool dude just hella caught up in the "intellectual space" and it feels good to be contrarian, plus it's causing him to blow up on KZbin so idk if I blame him. Plus lowkey he bringing people together kind of. People wouldn't even touch Nick with a stick but Sneako brings him on all the time. He kind of relies on him in many vids tbh but still. People being brought closer together and at least having conversation/humanising.

[@mgm8075]

Sneako is too far gone, and there's no incentive for him to change when he's making money and getting reaffirmed by his audience for doing what he's doing. It's over. Destiny is just convincing his audience at this point, and Nick is there to leech off Sneako.

[@Ed-en8br]

Wanna say as someone who’s been watching fresh and fit for awhile now and is right leaning, I didn’t know much about Destiny before this podcast. However, based on his maturity, how he was able to hold a conversation and defend his opinion in a non argumentative way, makes me respect him a lot. I’m going to be listen to him more now and keep an open mind with the things he believes obamna

[@xJ0LLYR0GERx]

As a right-leaning centrist who does not agree with destiny on everything but he does a really good job of portraying his points from a logical sound standpoint. unlike Nick and a lot of what we hear on fresh and fit.

[@Gerberous]

This is exactly why I listen to destiny

[@darkfafnir4389]

@@xJ0LLYR0GERx yea the government doesn't hide secrets and he gets his info from Wikipedia...like he said he only research what he wants to debate...not actual facts as he plays dumb ass games

[@giovalladares1022]

If you want a goldmine of content check his Rittenhouse debates and coverage

[@Prolificx]

@@xJ0LLYR0GERx Nick doesn't have to, most of his supporters operate on confirmation bias.

[@4pl3x]

The one thing i do respect about destiny is the fact that he uploads him beeing absolutly destroyed.

[@ib1ray]

Lol you mean you don't the think the government is conspiring against the people to keep them all dumb and passive! That was the dumbest thing anybody had said in a really long time. That's the ONLY role of government!

[@iankemp5089]

@@davidcampos8032most things

[@Grahamulet]

@@davidcampos8032"The government can't lie to people"

[@Wtahc]

@@vietnamsemonky4082 yeah youre not insane

[@Ianz505]

@@Grahamulet His point was that it would be really hard for the government to lie to people in today's climate without being caught because of all the technological advancements made, mainly being that everyone has a cell phone. While that doesn't prevent the government from creating lies or trying to cover up stuff, the point is that it would be really hard to have so many people involved in that and manage to have every single one of them stay silent. Another important note he makes is that most people in the government have lots of conflicting goals with one another. Implying that they all have wildly different stances on how things should be run, yet somehow all manage to get together to cover up a few conspiracies is very unlikely.

[@andrewb3677]

"HEY YO! HEY CHAT! CHAT! CHAT! PUT Ls IN CHAT IF YOU THINK THIS SNEAKO ARC IS GETTING REPETITIVE!! PUT UP A POLL UP RIGHT NOW!!!"

[@paigew6707]

Lmaoo I read this in Sneako voice

[@SaltyReverend]

I feel like the reason Sneako isnt a lefty yet is because Destiny is a girls name

[@callmeacutekitten8106]

🤢🤮

[@BlasphemyBaby]

Imagine being in your mid-20s and preaching to someone old enough to actually *remember* 9/11 that he just hasn't looked into the conspiracies, as if the truther movement hasn't done the rounds multiple times in the last 20 years.

[@Kreid5]

Lmao the simple fact he ran from watching the doc without needing "time to research" LMAO 🤣😭😭😭

[@andrewcox5873]

I couldn’t figure out why they watched a 5 hour doc when Loose Change made the same claims a decade ago. I guarantee Sneako didn’t make it half way through, the documentary was a snooze fest

[@onseayu]

it's funny that you say all this as if the initial truther claims have been debunked. and who cares how old he is? it's not like watching it happen on TV would've given anybody special insight into the event. really dumb points.

[@terryheeb6668]

Imagine believing the official narrative on 9/11 😅

[@tc5064]

Destiny literally said multiple times during this he doesnt know anything about x y z conspiracy, so he has in fact not looked into many of these. neither have my parents who were also old enough to remember 9/11, that doesnt matter at all lol.

[@jeremyg591]

Destiny can be purposefully dishonest with some of Nick’s points. Nick pointing out Snowden and asking what about all the instances where there wasn’t a Snowden was glossed over and red herringed with dinosaurs and the moon landing.

[@andymore62]

That’s his MO. If he gets to a point he can’t refute, he just motor mouths and throws out red herrings to get off the point.

[@Phlebas99]

Sneako grinning every time Fuentes goes on a mass rant that Destiny doesn't immediately shut down makes me realise how much of a waste of time this is.

[@crxyy6252]

So true

[@kennethduarte4346]

@@abdurrahmanqureshi3030 lol

[@Vapouro]

I love how every time Nick says something it starts off with some grounded information then just goes off into some wild rant about a government conspiracy and dystopian futures

[@EvanReilly.]

I’m not a fan of Nick but he’s much more in touch with reality than Destiny. I’m in shock with the fact that people follow destiny. He’s blind to common sense corruption, he’s a LITERAL cuck in an open marriage WHILE he has a kid, and doesn’t debate well and just laughs at opposition. In fairness to Destiny he’s right about some stuff for sure and isn’t a radical partisan figure. The cuck is probably the most normal mainstream liberal commentator. 😂

[@user-pn3im5sm7k]

go outside how is that a conspiracy when we already live in a dystopia?

[@misaelfraga8196]

Was that a joke? We are living the dystopian future.

[@chum3192]

Buddy, the word conspiracy and theory are not synonymous.

[@brylanbristopher1331]

the word conspiracy theory was popularized by the cia

[@xXJabbaWokiXx]

Why is Destiny able to articulate points well, repeat himself multiple times, and people dont get it... seems to be a common theme

[@RincrowTheOmnipotent]

they do get it. getting out debated or at least having your talking points torn in public is tough pill to swallow. Everyone does it. In the heat of the moment expect no one to take it gracefully.

[@2duce274]

He can articulate points fairly well but they are simply bad points

[@ActuallyEvil2]

@@2duce274 cap, Destiny has exceptional points. The issue is ppl who aren't open to listen and take differing opinions, purposely not taking in information that challenges their worldview

[@PandaWarriorTT]

Sometimes Destiny throws out some serious strawmen when he is losing an argument.

[@slapitonabiscuit8482]

People put different meanings behind words, so while they argue they are fully engaged from that viewpoint and end up, in a way, arguing about different things. For Destiny, saying a house is messy requires several rooms to be messy. Sneako and Nick would say a house is messy when a single room is messy. So when Destiny goes on to say, the House isn't messy but that room is. Sneako and Nick would see it as him contradicting himself.

[@Magneticitist]

Destiny thinks wikipedia is a truly reliable source

[@rampage_360bobamusicandoth4]

because it is, they show u where they get the sources from so u can double check its atleast 99% right on most relevant articles

[@Magneticitist]

@@rampage_360bobamusicandoth4 That's not how reliable sources work. For example, I'm sure it's frowned upon citing it as a source in a college paper unless your professor is a young goober.

[@instakillgaming]

Small irrelevant point that triggered the hell out of me, feel free to ignore: Destiny let it slide because sneako is sneako (not destiny's fault) but the Federal reserve is not a "private" institution, it is comprised of appointed members that have to be approved by the senate, and report directly to congress. All stock held in the fed bank is required to be transferred to the U.S. treasury, there is 0 profit incentive in being involved with the federal reserve or the FOMC. ok carry on

[@willb2481]

You really think there's zero profit incentive in being involved with the fed? As if the Fed chairman and other appointees don't make money using their positions of power? Yikes.

[@hapy132]

It is OWNED and not by the government so theres that. Since 1913 once the senat approved them, also i suggest too learn simple things like the the fact that your money is no longer a receipt for gold meaning it is now backed by nothing. The chairman of the fed is our only communication with them on a monthly basis. Also your government cant tell the fed what to do. Maybe dont copy paste the first shit u see. The creature from Jeckyll island is a great book about the start of the fed.

[@lukaswithakay]

@@hapy132 You literally just copy pasted a nonsense opinion, idk if you should be calling other people out for copy pasting. Our currency is not “backed by nothing”.

[@cp3190]

@@hapy132 How stupid do you have to be to think the USD is backed by nothing. You don't even have basic economics knowledge so stop acting like you understand anything.

[@instakillgaming]

@@hapy132 are you actually arguing for the gold standard??? In my replies?? Take a macro class please

[@Emmanuel_Amoah]

"I'm not prepared to watch it right now. But I will and we can schedule a date to debate it" "You can't watch it right now???? That's bullshit. Take the L" Sneako yet again speaks like the typical child he is, with his usual tantrums at his beck and call when something doesn't go his way. You are your own problem Steven, if you keep inviting these types for debates, ALONE and unmoderated. You're literally begging to be mocked and ambushed.

[@devohnhall1309]

It’s depressing realizing that this is how people do research, he even laughed when destiny said he will take notes to research each point.

[@Emmanuel_Amoah]

@@devohnhall1309 Extremely depressing! He laughed as though that wasn't the smarter way to go about gathering valid info.

[@Emmanuel_Amoah]

@@peepeepoopoo2749 Wuss? An alt or troll account? Go play elsewhere kid.

[@chanr9531]

@@devohnhall1309 it’s even more depressing seeing how much traction people like Sneako gets with this mindset.

[@Emmanuel_Amoah]

@@peepeepoopoo2749 I'm not your "bro", Kid. Like i said, go play somewhere else online.

[@disaintoscar]

sneakos “debating” is just him listening to everything destiny talks about while having no idea what he’s talking about and then saying “why?” “what if” “no” and thinking he’s having a debate…he never gives information or lays out facts he just asks an insane amount of “how come this/why this” questions. It gives me an aneurism that ppl keep letting him say he’s having “debates”

[@6maniac6metal6]

Everyone talks about Destiny grooming Sneako but it kinda feels like it might be more the other way around to some degree. If this was high school this is about the point where Sneako would start asking Destiny for “help” with his homework and tests lol

[@disaintoscar]

@@6maniac6metal6 anytime destiny talks sneakos face is like this “😐” n he always shakes his head no but when nick talks he starts smiling so hard n will always nod yes as if he understands what either of them r talking about. his presence is pointless in any of these debates he j sits there n piggies backs of nick the whole times

[@willb2481]

@@disaintoscar factsss lmao but foo seems real about becoming more educated and studying shit just the views and hype outrank that at the moment. He's still a cool dude and entertaining

[@nomahfuckah2080]

@@6maniac6metal6 not the best anaology,lol

[@lemonhead-eu2yx]

at 50:57 destiny bans someone for saying "destiny is wrong here" ROFL what a little insecure child destiny is

[@Beowulf002]

Sneako was holding back tears 8 minutes in. Delusional is an understatement.

[@ThomasWarhammer]

It's so funny watching Nick when Sneako is around; he knows exactly what he's doing. No way he doesn't realise that researching a topic takes time, but with Sneako and his audience around he'll take the easy W. Slippery Nick is at it again

[@env0x]

@@nebulis6509 do you research after watching the documentary?

[@alexd4566]

@@nebulis6509 He’s not gonna do research before watching it, but afterwards. He’s already watched 3 hours of it without prior research

[@davidjeanmichel8358]

i agree with nick on race, no on conspiracy theorys

[@juice17776]

@@nebulis6509 Destiny said "I will watch the documentary. I will take notes on the documentary's points. I will then research why there are differences between the common story, and this documentaries story." Its impossible for him to go in completely blind, because he lived through the events of 9/11 and was around when it happened. So he just default already knows one side of the argument.

[@tananatana4011]

I also find it interesting that whilst Sneako was in the call, Nick was a lot more aggressive and sarcastic, putting on goofy voices to make the ape brain audience giggle, but the second Sneako left, he became significantly calmer and more reasonable

[@nathawes17]

If Sneako said one thing, just one thing, that was well-sourced or somewhat intelligent, then I wouldn't laugh at him so much. Please, if you are an adult and you are reading this, please realise that Sneako is a grifter who is trying his best to milk your money. Don't let him.

[@irti_pk]

I don't think he's a grifter. He's just delusional and immature. As someone who's been watching his content for years, he loves holding contrarian beliefs even if it's bullshit.

[@notallowedtobehonest2539]

You sound like bp when they say "WHERES YOUR DATA THAT BP ARE DUMBER AND MORE VIOLENT" but then call all the experiments done on the subject rasist, even though its glaringly obvious to anyone who's actually lived near them. Some things dont need a research team. Aff action completely destroyed sourcing and peer review anyway, since subhumans can make up anything they want with the degrees they got handed for being bwack

[@TriggeringOpinionsandFacts]

Nah he’s just an idiot contrarian. He’s not smart enough to get to the point of independent thinking where you lead with skepticism and scrutiny instead of leading with mistrust.

[@falseprophet1024]

As opposed to Destiny who does this for free and doesnt have hundreds of thousands of your dollars, already?

[@khiddace]

@@falseprophet1024 your name alone speaks more than your comment.. please stop while your ahead

[@AbiogenesisGaming]

I, for one, will be happy when the Sneako arc comes to a close.

[@aidan7655]

It seemed like it was going good for a while until Sneako just started regressing to old takes

[@sunipye7051]

when destiny saves him

[@mgm8075]

Sneako is too far gone, and there's no incentive for him to change when he's making money doing what he's doing. It's over.

[@JamesEmery6]

Sneako arc is on the level of the N word saga. I’m loving every min

[@Tecomansur]

Sneako is the physical representation of the Dunning Kruger effect. He read 3 texts on something (coming from conspirational sources) and then thinks he understands everything. Every answer regarding financial institutions was simplistic

[@Tecomansur]

OH MY GOD, guy literally just said "I think black people have, on average, smaller IQ". Straight up racist speech.

[@user-ht3sc3sz7h]

"You don't even devote every waking moment of your life to debunking every conspiracy theory ever made!!! Instead you spend some of your time doing activities you enjoy, like playing DnD!!! WHAT A JOKE!!!" - Sneako and Fuentes, two very serious people.

[@ceerin4125]

Well if the point is that he "doesnt have time," then its more than valid lol. Destiny has nothing but time.

[@joeyvanderheiden]

And then question why he wants to take the time to research a topic which they have spent less than an afternoon on...

[@user-ht3sc3sz7h]

@@ceerin4125 Reread my comment and think about it for a while. You'll figure it out

[@ceerin4125]

@@user-ht3sc3sz7h it’s really funny to be a guy who spends his time watching KZbin debates try to be patronising about anything

[@zol5924]

@@ceerin4125 your comment makes no sense, my guy. Maybe some edits to Grammar will help. It's really funny to see a guy making fun of another but can't even produce a single sentence correctly.

[@drwill439]

Sneako just wants to be outside of the matrix so fucking bad. I'm low key sick of watching but I hope that Destiny can flip him back

[@Kreid5]

Yet NICK SMOKED DESTINY

[@rickross9829]

@@Kreid5 unintelligent troll

[@angryman_]

@@Kreid5 in what world LMAO

[@Lizard1582]

That's actually the simplest and best way of describing how Sneako's presented himself so far. Im also getting bored of him. Like its kinda entertaining hearing Destiny take apart conspiracies, but Its stuff I personally already understand and it's essentially being screamed into the void (sneako).

[@lukasmolcic5143]

if he doesn't, he'll flip at least a part of his audience which is good enough in my book

[@yourboyyakub6263]

The problem with Sneako is that he believe he has an open mind by debating people with differences of opinion but he already shuts off his mind to other points and doesn't listen, and already has a preemptive idea of what he is going to respond with. Instead of listening, reacting, and responding.

[@Joyboy0101]

I think he just likes to argue and be a contrarian or nonconformist.

[@Tigo625]

sneako does not have an open mind. He just goes with what's the opposite of the norm. I say this as a right winger.

[@Lizard1582]

@@Joyboy0101 someone here wrote "Sneako just wants to be outside the matrix so fuckin bad". That's the best way I've seen him described so far.

[@boogie8586]

@@christopherbonilla9214 a strong opinion about a documentary- based on one of the most well known terrorist acts in america- the same terrorist act that no single conspiracy theory has concrete proof of being a conspiracy. Seethe. Cope. L

[@boogie8586]

@@christopherbonilla9214 you being miserably unable to provide a single piece of evidence doesn't make me a bootlicker, and the government being able to lie isn't a form of proof. Pathetic cope, feel free to try again worthless scum

[@davidmartin2631]

"Every single mf has a cell phone in every room in the US..." Not true at all. A lot of areas on government grounds like r&d bases have "no electronics" policies where you have to leave your phone and anything that can store or steal data outside the room.

[@RoninGillhoolley]

yet phones still get in things still happen the point being with a world that is so easy to get info and spread it it’s impossible to shield huge operations

[@maxabdulhadi]

@@RoninGillhoolleyno

[@anonymouswhiterabbit]

Lol, I love how they disparage Destiny for wanting to view all sides of an issue and investigating thoroughly before making up his mind. It speaks VOLUMES about their views on things. Just throwing out, “shill” is so useless. I don’t think they realize what open mindedness means. Their definition seems to be something like, “go into something willing to believe it completely and don’t worry about research afterwards.” Which is hilarious considering the fact that they think anyone who believes an official story is engaging in that behavior.

[@jorgevaldes6160]

Destiny should teach sneako how to research, it was almost said but not clearly, "read Wikipedia so that you know what "bots" think, and then you should go research the conspiracy theories." If he wants to continue down the conspiracy theory route fine but at least if he does both of these things it would be easier for him to see the inconsistencies in the conspiracies, and he will have better counter points to the "bots."

[@LunaTulpa]

can't teach someone who refuses to learn, especially can't accept he's wrong on pretty much anything

[@-47-]

Destiny shouldn't have abandoned the point of learning the basics about something before trying to debunk it. It's simply impossible to even begin to disprove E=mc² for example if you have no idea what that means in the first place. All you can do is hint at narratives that have nothing to do with the equation. I think his ability to explain this would be a lot greater if he learned more about logic.

[@tc5064]

read what the federal reserve is, does and how it does that, then go into conspiracy theories, then see how and where it contradicts the NPC narrative. it was really thàt easy to get that point across, but Destiny handled that whole back and forth very poorly imo. "u have to know what something is and how it works before even trying to figure out the why and the why they wont tell you", literally so easy

[@jorgevaldes6160]

@@LunaTulpa I think he does want to learn, he even said that destiny inspires him to research things to have "high IQ" conversations but in order to teach someone uneducated you have to put it in his terms and use rhetoric that appeals to them, although now that I think about it maybe he said so in a different video.

[@penpointred]

Sneako “Liberals don’t want to have an honest conversation” Also Sneako - yells over destiny and refuses to hear any new info.

[@osmanbajraktarevic833]

19:05 nick totally got destiny here but the problem is destiny cannot fathom of ever being wrong

[@ImDougDimmadome]

“Doctor, my body hurts” “Your whole body?” “Well it’s just my foot” “So your foot hurts?” “My foot is part of my body therefore my body hurts”

[@MrClockw3rk]

This is interesting. Is there a name for this sort of thing?

[@ON-ry8iw]

How’s Mr.Turner doing?

[@lubb213]

“Doctor my foot hurts” “Your whole foot?” “Well it’s just my heel bone” “So your heel bone hurts?” “The heel bone is part of my foot, so my foot hurts” This is a much more honest analogy, and makes logical sense. You can say “my foot hurts” and then specify which part, that’s normal.

[@davidc7450]

Watching Sneako's reactions to everything Nick says is infuriating. Props to Destiny for patiently tackling this over and over, but it's starting to feel like a lost cause.

[@floorijzerman]

Seethe

[@30MinToNewOrleans]

Cope

[@cryptolink9218]

Its infuriating because the goverment learnt you to be mad. They planted a seed of hate in the case of an counter - opinion to goverment spread beliefs. Watch your greatparents, left people etc. They are MAD AF when you just lay out facts contradict their beliefs because they are not deemed "official". If I may quote destiny here: where is the study on that?source? 😂

[@TheAlxXxandRuh]

Destiny explained his process for reviewing the content so well to demonstrate how to perform research and to hear Sneako and Nick challenge that is pretty depressing. Come on, guys. This is super reasonable.

[@LamesAMA]

It's hard anti intellectualism. Doing the work to learn will never be as exciting as conspiracy theories or your gut instincts.

[@Joyboy0101]

And when Nick brings up the Elvis movie example, id be like "Yeah, id like to find out the truth so i can point out the flaws or misinformation in it." Its not like that movie is a biography, and i probably wouldnt care enough to do that myself, but for something like 9/11 or the JFK conspiracies, why the hell not?

[@miguelvaranda7377]

​@@kentandersen9526 COME ON GUYS!! THE SCIENCE IS SUUUPER REASONABLE!!!! - soy conspiracy theorist vs "Why yes of course I'm going to fact check your schizophrenic ramblings." - Chad deboonker

[@tayzk5929]

W Nick W Sneako L Destiny

[@niks.8957]

@@tayzk5929 -Someone who doesn’t know what they just watched

[@boblesnar8601]

Destiny has got to be a fed 😂

[@motobro3870]

He won’t even entertain jfk being assassinated. Mountains of evidence, practically from the govt itself. Sus

[@OnJahseh]

You use Reynolds or store brand for your hats?

[@willtoler6917]

@@OnJahsehreynolds, sometimes store bought, depends on the gravity of the subject. Fucking wanker

[@pmadude160]

As someone who works in finance, hearing Sneako and Fuentes try to explain how the federal reserve works made me want to commit seppuku

[@savagetr1539]

😂😂TRUU

[@cramax4871]

Working as a cashier isnt finance.

[@bringinthedope5929]

Someone said your a cashier, do they know you, or just a insult?

[@WanderTheNomad]

So basically you work for the government, since the government controls the economy and finance is basically the same as the economy. And in your down time you're editing the wikipedia article for recession. /s God it's so easy to come up with one of their talking points.

[@MrClockw3rk]

Enlighten us. What are they incorrect about?

[@Riven4s]

I'm getting tired of this sneako and Fuentez arc... this shit is mind numbing...

[@bigdaddyaen]

Destiny several years ago: "Ok, I'll have a stream with Nick Fuentes. It could be entertaining, I'll have fun arguing and joking with him, and he's pretty well known as a white supremacist so little risk of my community falling for him. What's the worst that can happen?" Destiny 3 days from now: "Alright if I get lunch at 1, I'll have enough time to research JFK conspiracies and be able to research 9/11 conspiracies the next day. Then I'll be well prepared for two debates where I'll just get called a CIA shill for several hours and nothing positive will come of it. FML".

[@TheSethOlson]

I’ve got a ton of respect for destiny for continuing to engage with these small corners of the internet and challenging them. Especially as someone who used to like people like Charlie Kirk and turning point USA I appreciate seeing both extremes of the political spectrum

[@falseprophet1024]

Maybe Destiny can finally put the conspiracies to bed, but he is going to have to do better than "the government cant keep secrets"...

[@techelitesareadisease8816]

@@TheSethOlson Please tell me you did not just conflate Charlie Kirk and TPUSA with NJF lol, and call TPUSA an "extreme" when they are probably one of the most milquetoast organizations in America's right wing

[@adrianiordache3552]

The fack that sneko gets destroyed time after time but still comes back to debate. The dude has a lot of holes, but it's cool he doesn't just flee away.

[@amaipls]

I think some of it has to do with sneako basically being in denial about getting destroyed, and continually convinces himself that he's right

[@jackboy2413]

Sneako really did his own poll in HIS chat in who won between Destiny and Nick when knowing his chat loves Nick so much

[@walterlippmann6292]

destiny defending wikipedia as if it's some totally neutral, unbiased source of information is just... insane.

[@walterlippmann6292]

@Racialist Slayer To give a quality answer I'd have to take a couple days to compile examples, but off the top of my head.. Wiki used to have a page on "cultural marxism", where you could read about critical theory and the frankfurt school, and the history of it all. About 6 months ago that page was deleted and replaced with a page called "cultural marxism conspiracy theory", and included as part of their series on "antisemitism", which obviously will be used to de-platform anyone who talks about it. This was right around the time that "cultural marxism" became a common phrase used to criticize "wokeism" or whatever you want to call it. It's one of those things that is so ubiquitous and blatant and obvious to me, that when you ask me for an example my mind is flooded with so many examples that it's hard to pick one. There's a name for that feeling but idk what it is. If you're actually interested we can continue this conversation in a few days after I do a little research, but I'm assuming you're not really interested in anything that would challenge your worldview. But again, "wiki is politically biased" is as obvious to me as "the sky is blue", so trying to explain it to someone who doesn't already see it seems pointless and impossible, unless they're open minded. It's right in front of your face, and if you don't already see it then you never will. It's like arguing with someone who says the sky is red. What can you really say? You have eyes, just look up. tldr: no

[@ForOrAgainstUs]

Sneako's problem is it's very difficult to learn new things in public when you're putting yourself out there like you know what you're talking about. It's very natural to get defensive in a debate and even when you try being open it still seems defensive (e.g. OK, you tell me what the federal reserve is. His face showed genuine curiosity and he was open, but it was the wrong venue for that question.) Obviously he's just a kid and this is how kids learn (maybe), but doing it publicly, I have less confidence he'll pull himself out of this rabbit hole. I'm rooting for the underdog because you can tell he has a good heart underneath a lot of ego pulling him multiple other directions.

[@mestaz9408]

best comment here. sneako a big dummy and hard believes in the stuff he hears but once something is thrown in his face enough, he starts to understand and change his mindset. the problem is, it only moves an inch.

[@i9ines]

Nick makes Destiny look like such a nub. i swear it gets harder and harder to see Destiny in these debates

[@HatredInTheFlesh]

Spic Fuentes is the only nub here

[@FrostLordOni]

Fuentes saying Destiny should stop playing D&D to start investigating conspiracies is the funniest thing I’ve ever heard. “Stop playing in the shire and start reading about real world things, like how the lizard people convinced Bush to launch missiles at the Twin Towers and use his secret cloaking technology to disguise them as planes.”

[@raxxtv1998]

Okay funny, but let’s be fair here. Fuentes probably doesn’t think that.

[@meanmrbean8641]

This made me spit out a mouthful of coffee 😂

[@raxxtv1998]

@Ivan Zhao Does what? Be more clear.

[@gohsk1512]

BQQQQM!!!! chuds BTFO’d

[@falseprophet1024]

Funnier than Destiny saying the government cant keep secrets? Lmao..

[@sunmoon2291]

Man I really gotta join Destiny and Sneako's Minecraft server, it sounds wild.

[@rohanjarande]

🤣

[@babycoruco]

When someone has to repeatedly tell you that they’re open minded, looking for the truth, not a bot like sneako does, then the complete opposite is true.

[@cpwilliam2987]

First time I felt Destiny was naive, didn't do enough research to say what he was saying, and was just wrong.

[@spacetoast7783]

He literally said he didn't research JFK. How is that naive?

[@srijanagrawal255]

Destiny is the most frustrating person i've ever seen. Man just refuses to see sense

[@ib1ray]

He speaks in technicalities to support his narrative but he isn't arguing in good faith

[@lyndy101]

Did we watch the same video? Nick is a complete joke and sneako just sits there laughing while being completely clueless.

[@lionelmessisburner7393]

U mean nick and sneako

[@STEELGMBL]

​@@lyndy101keep coping, Nick owned this dude as he normally does

[@BradJohannsen]

Getting tired of the Sneako arc. Every discussion is mostly him just yelling "jab" "libs" or "sheep". He has the intelligence of a mouse.

[@R_00N]

Same he's very annoying. I don't see how Destiny deals with his shit.

[@kenzistar1569]

You forgot bots. Smh I agree

[@JOHN18042]

Mice are actually kinda intelligent and if anything more intelligent than sneako

[@TaskMaster5]

rude to mice.

[@TheTiredhermit]

But then he switched up talking about “HAHAHAHA INCELLS IM DONE GRIFTING THESE GOOFBALLS GET OFF ON OWNING THE LIBS!!” True BUT he ended up saying all this weird shit then shit on his dumbass audience

[@kevindavidquinn3571]

Government says “don’t drink bleach it’s bad for you” Sneako would immediately chug bleach while screeching he’s not a bot.

[@falseprophet1024]

Considering the government actually said that 2 years ago, and Sneako didnt chug bleach? It would be a funny joke, if it hadnt already happened and he didnt do the punchline..

[@El_Remolino19]

going back and rewatching this 2 years later. Nick was right

[@drewvarn]

Sneako is a victim of the “I’m the special one who knows the TRUTH” mindset. He wants to be unique and special so bad, so he completely sacrifices his ability to critically think.

[@triplemoyagames4195]

Sneako is in that stage of enlightenment, where one gains an influx of knowledge to the point they think they know more then they do. They don't know enough to know that they don't know enough.

[@wama2002]

dunning kreuger

[@rickkroll]

@@wama2002 yes dude. Alan is a car

[@fabioq6916]

Dunning Kruger

[@zenleeparadise]

I’ve been watching this sort of thing a lot less lately and every time I pop back in to check it out the discourse has regressed further.

[@yusuka4ev830]

Lol

[@AmericanTestConstitution]

"Oh yeah, there is a meaningful distinction between Silicon Valley and the Government."

[@Bentbire]

Jesus Christ, can Sneako and Nick actually PROVE a point somewhere in this? Calling someone bad faith, and saying “lmao what a bad point” isn’t anything. That’s NOTHING! Throwing random conspiracies around like “well isn’t that curious” doesn’t PROVE anything! Destiny can’t counter fucking air, throw out something with some actual substance that can be engaged with and discussed instead of this kiddie pool depth narrative

[@rojayreid908]

What random Conspiracy?

[@Unholy_11]

@@rojayreid908 you not listened to this? All the conspiracies they were throwing at destiny? Sneako and nick are dummies.

[@rojayreid908]

@@Unholy_11 what all conspiracy plus Destiny doesn't have a lot of facts either on his side.

[@Unholy_11]

@@rojayreid908 google what the definition of ‘conspiracy theory’ is and you’ll soon figure out why sneako and co are dummies.

[@rojayreid908]

@@Unholy_11 I know what conspiracy theory means but saying the media spread lies and spread Covid fear misinformation isn't a Conspiracy theory.

[@niclastname]

I swear people who act like Wikipedia is bathroom graffiti don't know how it works, and don't even look at it. Everything is sourced or is specifically marked as not having a source. Edits are monitored and logged. Everyone would know if a page was being manipulated, it would be obvious

[@raymondh5456]

Tell that to our middle school and high school teachers lmao

[@veritasabsoluta4285]

@@raymondh5456 Teachers only say that using Wikipedia as a source itself is wrong but not the sources within Wikipedia

[@DS127]

@@raymondh5456 You should 've been told to not cite encyclopedias in papers because they're tertiary sources.

[@matt_9112]

When there's a spam/editing war over high enough profile pages, it makes it in the (main stream) news even.

[@raymondh5456]

@@DS127 that’s university. Back in grade school we were told not to read anything or trust anything on those sites because it’s “editable by anyone”.

[@tsa_Yama]

Debate tactics are apparently when you know how Wikipedia editing works and do research instead of watching conspiracy docs.

[@chaxx0248]

15:15 Sneako looks like a little boy seeing Superman fly for the first time when Nick makes a point lmao

[@kornby4707]

The irony here is that one side of this "debate" teased the other side for 10 minutes for not just watching a 5-hour documentary with "an open mind". Literally admitting that they do not spend any time looking into their talking points. Literally admitting that they not only don't understand how to research... but they fundamentally do not understand the importance of it. Laughing that Destiny cannot just take someone's word at face value. Then it is that side that calls the other a "sheep". Crazy world we live in.

[@shadowsta9]

Sneako: *Gets Triggered* Also Sneako: YOU'RE TRIGGERED!

[@LNMBEATS]

People like sneako is the reason conspiracy theories can't be discusssed

[@ericsonofjohn9384]

*are

[@VitoCorleone786]

For as far as I am too the right side of politics I’ve honestly come to love destiny. He’s definitely grown on me like a goofy snotty infant around an adult that hates children.

[@BenjaminBattington]

46:45 Just a side note about the slippery term "heritable" in this context. In the statistical sense, "heritable" is not the same as "genetically/biologically inherited." It is just a measure of how well we can use "parent has this trait" as a predictor of whether or not a child will have the same trait. What this means is that things like religion and language are, technically, highly heritable traits. That doesn't mean there's a "Christianity" or a "speaking Italian" gene. On the other hand, something like having teeth is not a very heritable trait, because even parents who lose all their teeth will have children born with teeth. You would never think that a father who has lost his teeth is more likely to bear a toothless child, so, statistically, it's not a great predictor. Yet the origin of growing teeth is obviously genetic. When you hear "IQ is highly heritable," that is not the end of the nature/nurture debate, it's just the beginning.

[@modo1896]

Yeah the heritability of a trait doesn't mean it's genetically determined. It's just the extent that variation of that trait within a population is due to genetic variation in the population. And a trait like IQ or even religion can be highly heritable in one population and not as heritable within a population with more environmental differences. And you can have highly heritable traits like skirt wearing or wearing makeup in the U.S., which is accounted for by small genetic differences (xx and xy chromosomes in females and males) but the trait is not genetically determined at all but socially determined through gender norms. IQ is determined by a mix of environment and genes, but that has nothing to do with how heritable IQ is. If IQ is 60% heritable, for example, it doesn't mean that 60% of a person's IQ comes from their genes and 40% comes from their environment. It just means that 60% of the difference in IQ within the population (or between populations) is accounted for by genetic differences within (or between) the population(s). Also the heritability of a trait can change over time if genetic or environmental variation changes.

[@jeydid345]

Sneako: How can you say the movie is wrong when you haven't looked into it! Destiny: Ok. I'll watch it and take notes to look into it. Sneako: Why are you taking notes? It's just a movie bro!

[@bolobalaman]

Average smoothbrain sneako

[@wingy252]

Man this old quote feels ever so fitting listening to this. “We've arranged a global civilization in which most crucial elements profoundly depend on science and technology. We have also arranged things so that almost no one understands science and technology. This is a prescription for disaster. We might get away with it for a while, but sooner or later this combustible mixture of ignorance and power is going to blow up in our faces.” ― Carl Sagan.

[@ConnerNeal]

So true. In the age of information overload how can we expect people to decipher what is true from what is false when we have catastrophically failed at creating a literate society? Literacy is declining, critical thinking is declining, understanding of world history is declining, understanding of basic math and the scientific method are declining, all while we need them the most. I don’t fault the KZbin generation for being so incapable of deciphering reality from conspiracy. How can we expect that of them when we have failed to teach them how to think?

[@dzimka7576]

man i love him

[@MediumDSpeaks]

39:09 I listened 5 times to Nick saying "Nigga I am not getting paid"

[@jagwrld8561]

So

[@joeybwalsh]

Destiny is hung up on the word “government” vs saying “CIA”, “NSA”, etc. Nick is right for pointing out the bullshit.

[@pleb8627]

because saying goverment talks about CIA NSA and FBI plus other parts of the goverment all in on in and hiding it while saying one of those means there is less in on it big diffrence

[@kiritimatiswan1986]

Sneako, don't burn the destiny bridge, it's crucial for your survival

[@alewis17]

Destiny: can you give me a large scale Conspiracy the government was able to keep under wraps despite being connected to tens of thousands individuals Daddy Fuentes: yeah here's this plan that was proposed that was immediately shot down with no hopes of getting any sort of traction

[@Kreid5]

LMAO you mad cause NICK SMOKED HIS ASS

[@willb2481]

Are you trying to say that Northwood didn't receive any support or traction before being shot down? I think most if not all the conspiracy shit is cringe, but it's a notable event for a reason. It wasn't just some petition that never had hopes of being approved/signed.

[@blackmanwithcomputer]

@@willb2481 The point was that there's too many people that would have to be involved, including a president, for such massively coordinated conspiracies to actually succeed. Again, Fuentes can't even bring up something recent during the age of cellphones, where trolls casually hack corporation firewalls because they're bored. Where people can coordinate and find someone's location from a random picture of a windmill on Twitter, because they're bored. In age where people in the US are constantly uncovering ongoing narrative cover ups in Russia or China, where politicians are constantly getting hacked, where former government agents are constantly giving out secrets for book deals, Destiny's point is that mass scale conspiracies are not possible now. Someone will out it or find out.

[@tc5064]

...by the president, who then got assassinated, which was followed by legislation of key historical importance. and even if that didnt happen, it still proves Nick's point completely.

[@dorsia6938]

Also it's worth noting that we only know about Northwood because the documents were declassified. Same with lots of other US conspiracies which turned out to be true. Things that occurred since the 90s are still not declassified so any conspiracies we know about are because of whistleblowers or scrutinising investigative journalism. Both of which are very rare due to the huge stakes involved for anyone involved.

[@balla2828]

“The government has no secrets & is incapable of hiding anything” - Destiny 😂

[@joshanderson924]

Gets proven wrong; "well I wasn't talking about departments within the government I meant the whole government" gets proven wrong again; "the government is very big and organized so the probability of it holding secrets is very low" 🤣

[@Senzu_Official]

@@joshanderson924 wrong. He was completely correct. With tech today, the gov isn't coordinated enough to hide anything worth mentioning. His point wasn't that the government doesnt lie, it's that it isn't as structurally sound enough as a whole to hide the truth, because of inevitable leaks. His take on the different agencies was also sound because it's irrelevant. The basis of the whole conspiracy is that the 'entire' government was able to keep this a secret, seeing as all the information and resources going towards war has to be shared through every branch and agency. Nick's Snowden rant actually strengthens destiny's point. Snowdens leaks happened within 1 agency, with him exposing something with the purpose of protecting potentially 300 million Americans from terrorist attacks. So nick was basically saying that every government official was willing to stand around and let thousands of women and children die for an excuse to go to war, but 1 agency had everything leak while employing a countermeasure to terrorism in the form of mass surveillance. That's just absurd.

[@tvtrauma7024]

@@joshanderson924lol literally constructs a framework where he is never wrong. If it is not every single government official including the local city hall janitor then it isn’t government corruption

[@joshanderson924]

@@tvtrauma7024 🤣 yeah he's a slippery fker.

[@balla2828]

@@tvtrauma7024 He fails to acknowledge that in order to "hide" things or rig something all you need is the corruption to be rampant in the top most positions. Then from there you just have ignorant bots doing their jobs unknowingly doing the dirty work for the higher ups.

[@hitmanhart670]

Why is Destiny entertaining this Sneako? He’s a clown

[@cydra_infinity1423]

Maybe because he’s actually open minded and doesn’t believe the Deep State Propaganda.

[@thijs2906]

Clout. Sneako's popping and Destiny is riding the wave. There is also probably some altruistic moral in there about educating people like Sneako and his fanbase in whatever way possible in order to make sure they at least have some counter arguments.

[@zetazero5899]

More views

[@edgarpoe1532]

Destiny got dog walked here. It's pathetic how he constantly makes jokes instead of engaging with the topic. He just makes light of everything serious. He still never researched jfk or 9/11. It's been like 2 years, and he's still running from those.

[@rampage_360bobamusicandoth4]

you're the only brainwashed person in the comments congrats.

[@Whocaresanymore970]

To be fair, Destiny isn't exactly right about Wikipedia. The creators of Wikipedia abandoned it and created alternatives because it was hijacked by activists.

[@SpinSurgery]

100% I kinda wish he was more informed on how legit this point is. And more than just activists because it’s an actual echo chamber and the major thing I found was a FEEDBACK LOOP from articles citing only Wikipedia and the Wikipedia article only citing articles that source Wikipedia and ZERO legit secondary sources. In fact i learned this myself researching QAnon and found there was not a single source explaining it from any source that isn’t from a critical pov, and all I wanted was to see what those ppl believe in their own words which should be easy to find considering how much they get discussed in mainstream liberal media sources. Im not saying it’s necessarily a conspiracy but it absolutely diminishes the credibility of Wikipedia in my eyes. Same goes for Gamergate. But with QAnon, no matter how controversial, just like the Nazi party, it should be possible to define their beliefs by reading their own words and self definition.

[@Wtahc]

that doesnt contradict what he said about wikipedia

[@Wtahc]

@@billballinger5622 no it doesnt