Destroyer Ragnar How's it doing these days in World of Warships 2024

[@Apollyon-er4ut]

I remember Flamu when this came out said that except for comp, that it's kind of boring because it's so one dimensional. BUT, he said it's so good at what it does, it still is an S tier ship. I don't find it that great in comp, but fun in randoms.

[@sdluke]

Ragnar is inherently underpowered...

[@RIPPERDD]

yeah it's changed since first releaseed, a little more fair now haha Thank you!

[@ConductorDon]

I'm in [PHD] we played you guys earlier tonight, gg and love your videos, they've been helping me improve my dd play.

[@RIPPERDD]

awesome! glad to see you! cheers!

[@ArmorPiercing11]

I’m trying to figure out what my next steel ship should be. I am leaning towards Ragnar. I’m also trying to decide between Slava, Illinois, or Sicilia for the RB.

[@-sly-Critique]

Illinois is a very fun ship I got her 2 weeks ago.

[@j_taylor]

Agree about Illinois being such fun. Also consider how useful it is for those missions to get X shell hits in a battleship. Ragnar is a real specialist ship. If you like open-water gunboating and terrorizing other DDs, like I do, it's a blast (and powerful too.) If that isn't your jam, you probably won't enjoy or be successful in it.

[@-sly-Critique]

@@j_taylor Yeah true about the shell bar needed for missions. I do want to get Ragnar. Illinois is just one of those ships there are no others like it in the game.

[@ArmorPiercing11]

@@j_taylor I love open water gun boats, my favorite DDs are Marceau, Friesland, and Vampire. I’ll probably end up going Ragnar. I was leaning towards Illinois because of its uniqueness.

[@RIPPERDD]

awesome discussion, it all depends on your playstyle and enjoyment of the game, it's really about the player, Thank you!

[@Arengeesus]

I had a horrible time playing Ragnar as a DD hunter i.e. concealment short range build. From my experience getting up close just to hunt DDs early game in Ragnar is a death sentence or greatly weakens you for late battle and a dice roll as well as stay around cap zones to be lighted up by radars and CVs while being isolated at the front with little support. It's all great to talk about bullying DDs in Ragnar until the realisation that every DD engagements isnt 1 vs 1 but how much your team and enemy team supports their DDs. I switched my build by ditching CE and took gun range. I noticed that simply keep shooting at far range and melt down enemy team first then hunt DDs later is better because an enemy DD late game without its teammates are free food for Ragnar. Enemy ships mostly cant resist shooting me so they keep themselves detected for my team. Enemy DDs cant do anything to a ragnar sniping at the back, being far away also can use teammates AA against CVs (and CVs wont bother with u in your herd) and u are far out of range from enemy radars, BBs will have a hard time shooting a DD far away and mostly ignore a DD far away. It creates a dilemma to shoot my ragnar harassing them openly or shoot my teammates. Saved my health pool, heals and radars until the late stage of the game where enemy DDs are isolated and low HP. At that point 8.3KM concealment isnt a downside anymore when u are still healthy to take duels. My WRs and overall performance improved after switching ragnar to range build to harass and spot role than a DD hunter. the extra range makes a huge difference to prolonging my survival which will be important late battle. Though they say it's a boring and bland DD. I see it more like a mini CL full of action and movement that most CLs cant do.

[@RIPPERDD]

awesome! thanks for the great input!

[@robertshaver4432]

I love my Ragnar but I really don't play it that often, when I do though, I have fun. Same with Groningen, all guns and no torps is fun and I love my Gron too BUT All guns and no torps just isn't my "main" playstyle. For me, I've Gotta have guns and torps, one without the other is fun "for awhile". I wouldn't give up either of these ships though, I Love them both. They're like "awesome" One-Night Stands lol Cheers: Robert

[@RIPPERDD]

yeah it lets you focus on one thing

[@shaunli4295]

Thanks Ripper, I never thought you would listen but you did, cheers!

[@RIPPERDD]

No worries! Thank you!

[@AlderaansRanger]

I’m not really a DD player. I just use the shima and hayate. I prefer torp boats over gun boats.

[@RIPPERDD]

nice! i'm trying torp boats more to see what i can do , Thank you!

[@LaunchpadGamingGuy]

I see you took concealment. Do you like that better than using range?

[@j_taylor]

Full concealment build gets you to the magic point where your detection equals the 7.5km range of your radar. Get spotted, pop radar, then pop the ship who spotted you. Most of the battle, I resent wasting 4 captain points on concealment skill, but those times when it's useful, it's very very useful.

[@LaunchpadGamingGuy]

@@j_taylor thanks bro

[@RIPPERDD]

yeah the concealment gives me the radar usage, as soon as i get detected i pop it, the range is ok but to far to be effective

[@Fackeldackel]

Ragnar is nothing like Smaland, the entire playstyle is different. If you try to play Ragnar like Smaland you die early. With Ragnar you sit in second line, bully BBs, cruisers at range and take occasional potshots at enemy DDs. But overall you thin out the red team before you go after DDs or the objective. Meanwhile with Smaland you can dive straight towards the objective and go for the early DD kill. Provided you play without concealment (except the module) and pick fearless brawler instead, your chance of picking up that early kill is very high. Enemy DDs spots you around 7km, Smaland radars and straight up murders 90% of the DDs. There are very few DDs Smaland has to respect (Sherman, Marcy, Ragnar, Kleb, a good Daring). Since most DD players in randoms are TERRIBLE, i mean really, really TERRIBLE, most of them are a free kill for a Smaland. After that Smaland can heal if necessary (rarely the case, most DDs die within the first engagement). With the DD dead, the majority of BBs and cruisers will turn out and start kiting which seals their fate and that of the flank. smaland Gets the cap and can start farming the ever living shit out of the battleships. Its raw DPM and firechance are ridicolous. And Smaland is not done yet with her goodies. She gets probably one of if not the best speedboost in the game. With it up and a DD player with hands, Smaland is almost impossible to hit while she just keeps farming and farming. And unlike Ragnars her Speedboost can last over a minute. In addition it has a short cooldown and is usually available 5 times. Ragnar may be a bully, but Smaland is a beast. Both can stealth radar but thats about it with the similarities.

[@RIPPERDD]

yep, Thank you! for the input! cheers!

[@Francis915Emoji]

i think this ship are not good for rank isnt it? what you think?😶

[@RIPPERDD]

it's ok, ranked is better than clans becasue of the communication and skill level in cbs, but ranked is to me just like randoms, just with smaller teams

[@Fackeldackel]

@@RIPPERDD Depends on the setup. A Ragnar instead of a cruiser is a legit choice in CB since she can bully gunboats quite well and does not take citadels from battleships like a radar cruiser would. Next CB will be 2 BBs, so any cruiser will have a rough time.