Destroyer: The U-Boat Hunter

[@MMuraseofSandvich]

OK, I'm totally digging the "naval crash course for noobs" tutorial. They've invested serious time in animating, scripting, and directing that cinematic.

[@LudensP]

Absolutely. More games should do this.

[@elizabethlestrad5282]

But is there an actual proper ingame tutorial, or is it just videos and wiki pages like Hearts of Iron?

[@pertamanakprimaindra3928]

@@elizabethlestrad5282 yes there is proper ingame tutorial. Watch Angryjoeshow twitch stream for complete tutorial. I warn you, the tutorial is massive information dump, even Joe almost lost on it. luckily, you could set almost everything to automatic. unless you're enthusiast or veteran. full manual is way to go

[@thomasneal9291]

@@pertamanakprimaindra3928 " even Joe almost lost on it" as if it was hard to lose Joe. lol.

[@Living_Sushi]

This really does seem like Cold Waters played from the other perspective and I am absolutely here for it

[@hawkeye5955]

There's Cold Waters mods that allows you to play surface ships. The Dot Mod has player controlled helicopters for hunting submarines and surface ships with ASW rockets.

[@markberghel275]

Right?! I was thinking the exact same thing!

[@sirwhitemeat9785]

Cold Waters? More like Silent Hunter III but the other perspective.

[@gunslingerluckytankijunky]

Greyhound

[@mohammadrifqisatriamas7311]

it's more like silent hunter series or u-boat than cold water, but i agree

[@TrickiVicBB71]

This totally needs to be a series Jingles

[@vakama9053]

Hear, hear!

[@jameswalker6633]

Absolutely, I loved the cold waters series. “Shit I’ve been detected, all ahead flank speed”

[@ascendent]

Absolutely!

[@Straswa]

@@jameswalker6633 Agreed, loved the part where Jingleberry did a Jingles landing on the sea floor

[@rrobb9853]

In case it is of interest, the Germans did not know that their radio transmissions were being intercepted (though they knew it was technically possible) and that this enabled the Allies to use Direction Finding to locate them. They thought their radio transmissions were too short, and broadcast at too high a frequency, to be picked up and DF'd. The Allies used High Frequency Direction Finding however (HF/DF or 'Huff Duff') and could triangulate sub locations. For some reason, the Germans were reluctant to accept that HF/DF was a thing. Approx 25% of German submarine losses were due to HF/DF location. Sorry (as you are a former Radio Operator) if some of my wording is not technically correct. Great video as always.

[@Nderak]

the amount of mass delusion and dwelling in alternate fantasy realities the Nazi leaders and strategists did is mind boggling

[@hawkeye5955]

The allies also captured enigma machines and code books which allowed them to decrypt the messages sent between the U-boats and HQ. Allied convoys were able to avoid the U-boats in some cases.

[@jefftheriault5522]

Then there was their active radar detection system that was in use for a rather short time (described in Iron Coffins). I leave you to imagine the results of an actively emitting radar detector.

[@Vinemaple]

Thanks for this detail. I was really baffled by that story, but this makes sense of it all.

[@gotanon9659]

@@jefftheriault5522 pretty sure that the "detection of active radar detector" was a bunch of BS a captured allied pilot said to deceived the german interogators to hide the Use of high freq radar which the germans tested and confirmed which led to a fleetwide orders not to use the radar detectors. PS: the allies actually tested a similar device but found it seriously lacking and it never went beyond a prototype.

[@YiotisTheGnome]

Jingles:"Oh what could go wrong?" Me: *expecting a cut to the ship exploding*

[@robertdevito5001]

*Somehow accomplishes a jingles landing in the middle of the Atlantic... again*

[@PapaBear816]

@@robertdevito5001 With a Ship no less.....

[@shawnbrennan2583]

Remember the Jingles landing of a submarine in Cold Waters? My guess is anything can go wrong Jingles, even a verbal confrontation with a lighthouse.

[@BjornTheDim]

@@robertdevito5001 Interesting. Even at this early stage of development they've got coral reefs in the game.

[@gunslingerluckytankijunky]

@@robertdevito5001 jingles landed on another escorts low deck or wedging into a commerse ship. maybe even doing a proper suprise butt sex by hitting the uboat.

[@jackbrowning8013]

Jingles. PLEASE turn this into a series 🍿

[@nathangraham8162]

PLEASE

[@mudman619]

those men in those destroyers are the "unsung" heroes of the war . . . imagine the anxiety & stress they were constantly under. glad to see they're getting a proper tribute with this game.

[@Webby304]

Try being on one of the cargo ships, great uncle served Atlantic then for his sins Arctic convoy. Always said he was blessed to lose his only ship in an Atlantic. His little claim to fame served on ship with Tommy Steele on think it was Queen of Bermuda.

[@oradavis4620]

My father was on destroyer escort 1941 murmansk run

[@Wings_of_foam]

Lol, they are all dead. I don't think they care about someone making a video game about the hell they went through. Heroes is an overused word these days. Just play the game.

[@Jeff_Engineer]

The analog computing systems of WW2 were amazing, from the TRR featured here in the tutorial or the fire control systems on board battleships that outperformed even some early electronic attempts to replace them, they were incredible feats of engineering.

[@KitsuneRogue]

As some say, never underestimate a man with a slide rule.

[@aviator2252]

the slide ruler got us to the moon

[@Maverickib]

We still use slide rules/other handheld plastic computers in the modern Navy. I'm a submarine sonar technician and still do the bulk of my solution development with a grease pencil and bearing rate computer. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[@aviator2252]

@@Maverickib i know, 13D 10 years Army Artillery we proved we can still put warheads on forheads using slide rules and TFT's

[@panagiotisdeligiannis9610]

As a person that has played not a lot, but quite enough to fall in love, Silent Hunter 3 , 4 and 5, it is always nice to see new WW2 naval sims coming out. Hope this game turns out well!

[@davidsmith8997]

The problem with SH was that you could figure out AI exploits pretty quickly to rack up enormous, war-changing tonnage totals. Good fun, but after 2-3 playthroughs it was too easy (on full difficulty with time acceleration). Still, the basic at and mouse premise was really fun.

[@Hydra360ci]

​@@davidsmith8997 When I used to play SH3, I'd play with the Grey Wolf mod.

[@panagiotisdeligiannis9610]

@@davidsmith8997 Yeah, I know what you mean. Though it was a game of its time. Great game for 2005, I still remember how I eagerly bought a 1gb ram to be able to play the game. I'd love a u-boat sim, with the gameplay of SH3+Grey wolves mod, the graphics and ONLY the 1st person from SH5.

[@binaryshark5965]

this would be a perfect multiplayer game where everyone is a member of each section of the ship.

[@Pilvenuga]

not really, can you imagine just sitting around and doing nothing while your captain is looking for a sub? there's enough milsim "hurry up and wait" games for that

[@paulbaker9687]

perhaps, 1 person per escort ship, won't happen but we can dream I guess.

[@mister_woot]

@@paulbaker9687 That was done back in the 90s with Silent Hunter II and Destroyer Command but sadly, Ubisoft never patched out the instability in the multiplayer. When it worked though, it was awesome, hunting your mates destroyers in your UBoat and vice versa was great fun.

[@Sirisma]

Look up Artemis: Spaceship Bridge Simulator

[@garyblubaugh2517]

This might work with U-boat I believe. I know there was a sub and destroyer games made to be multi-player in that aspect. It was a few years back I remember seeing something like that being a work in progress.

[@korbell1089]

"Christopher Columbus didn't need directions..." Even Paul went, "Actually Jingles..." 🤣

[@Straswa]

(shotgun loading sound)

[@evolutionari]

I thought this was going to be a WoWs video. I'm pleased to see something fresh and I'm staying until the end.

[@mpersad]

Personally, I would be absolutely delighted if you did a series on this game - really enjoyed this first chance to see some of the game action.

[@Pincer88]

Would love to see more of this game! From what I've seen sofar, it brings home that Greyhound feeling pretty well. I would love to see British DDs too, preferably commanded by a certain die hard Yorkshiremen who's name we shall not speak of aloud.

[@kevg3320]

Didn't realise Noel Coward was a Yorkshireman 😆

[@Pincer88]

@@kevg3320 Come think of it... :D

[@ghostbacon8445]

Please let this be a series! This looks so fun even from someone who has no clue what any of it means lol

[@stephenwilson5043]

The devs have stated in the past that they would love to do a Pacific sequel /DLC adding in radar picket duties / AA / fleet escort etc

[@Telsion]

I'd love seeing more videos of this game, because it looks absolutely fascinating

[@justandy333]

Yea! Definite new series for The Mighty Jingles! I could while away my evening so so easily listening to Jingles at the Helm of a destroyer, hunting U boats. With his naval background and associated jargon to boot, its a winner.

[@thomasneal9291]

if only he knew how to actually pilot a ship.

[@jewhammer]

"If you don't understand what all of these screens do, btw...don't worry, I don't know either". Jingles you're the best.

[@diestormlie]

Being able to *ram* U-Boats? SAY NO MORE! Also, come on, 'No U-Boat Losses; No Convoy Losses' is *not* a minor defeat! That's clearly a strategic Allied Victory!

[@Julius_Hardware]

As Jingles noted, for the USN it would be a minor defeat as nothing got sunk. For the RN it it would be a minor victory as nothing got sunk.

[@Reddotzebra]

That German skipper isn't trying to run in circles, he's trying to run away from you as fast as he can. XD

[@chasebennett434]

I would love to see more of this on the channel

[@thomaskurz5617]

I played the demo some months ago. I see that did quite a lot of polishing on the game. The game is really hyperreaistic and quite hard. In the Demo the uboats were very aggressive, circling back to the convoy and sinking ships while you were chasing them. One uboat would regularly sink half your convoy while you chased it all over the map.

[@paulwood5803]

I played the demo too and agree with you. It was more than a little unrealistic tbh. I speak as an erstwhile ASW officer and when I joined the Royal Navy some of our ships still had equipment that was very much rooted in WW2 technology, so this is very immersive and very realistic as a sim.

[@TheJeyR]

One of the devs said that when they released that demo they had to turn the subs hyper aggressive because for some reason a change they made close to the demo release date turned the subs too passive, and since they didn't have enough time to fix it before releasing the demo they ended up making them hyper aggressive as band aid fix. This release version apparently has it properly fixed

[@AnimarchyHistory]

"Christopher Columbus didn't need directions and neither do I" is my new favourite saying Jingles. And I'm glad we had the same idea. Jump in, chase Jerry, see what happens. Alot of sailors died... but they weren't on my ship so all good.

[@NYC-Gardener]

I only felt slightly attacked as I was sitting in my chair with my feet up smoking my corn cob pipe watching this video.....

[@Youhaveaname]

Would love to see more of this series Jingles. Much like the Cold Waters series you had done a few yesrs back.

[@Kaarl_Mills]

I like how the callsign for the PBY is Black Cat, as that was not only it's nickname among pilots and crews, but also one of the better tracks in CoD: WAW

[@insquidious9715]

Long time lurker, first time commenter. This absolutely must become a regular thing!! I couldn't play this game to save my life but watching you play it was exactly what I needed. If this doesn't become a series I'll personally supply the salt mines with just my tears alone for a month.

[@RealTanku]

Was eager to pick this one up! Glad our favorite Gnome picked it up!

[@JaamesJohnson]

Retired Navy and that cinematic opening was very good... I felt like I was back on one of my previous ships during general quarters....

[@therogueadmiral]

This is really cool, really enjoyable to watch/listen to. (I did both) I must say though, when they sounded the general quarters alarm, at 7:41, I was really surprised. The klaxon playing is the exact same they played for the indirect fire alarms. I heard them a lot in Iraq, followed by a C-RAM firing. Caught me off guard, and brought back some memories.

[@therogueadmiral]

Really got my heart beating out of nowhere. 😆

[@endze1613]

I can imagine Jingles' nerdgasm and nostalgia during that initial battle sequence :D

[@Fighterpilot555]

Just got finished watching Greyhound and suddenly Jingles is playing this game. I was half expecting the gunnery officer to give the order "All mounts fire at will!"

[@rhoastabotch]

I really do appreciate a good tutorial. That game looks fun thanks Jingles.

[@sozetsukokai9327]

that's a title WG definitely never heard about. "What do you mean with: destroyers are meant to hunt submarines? we can't have submarines be weak to the class that counters them!"

[@OneBiasedOpinion]

This is so fascinating. Loved your Cold Waters playthrough and this is very similar. Your knowledge of naval operations makes it so very enjoyable!

[@josiahricafrente585]

I’m a new Ensign in the USN, and I love how I can finally understand all the callouts and commands used in the game. I also find it really cool how they haven’t changed them all this time. You could stand in Combat or the pilothouse and hear essentially the same exact stuff!

[@oppayagrilledtteokbokki488]

Nice game intro! I love that. I think it’s good for new player to understand the basic of the vehicle and tactics before we proceed the tutorial. I will buy it for sure ❤

[@SubliminalEncryption]

A series of this would be great! Maybe include some interesting naval history along with it? Just a thought. Take care Jingles.

[@Quensi130]

I'd love to see some more of you playing this! Enjoying the commentary and you do a good job of playing too! Great content as always, been watching your videos for many years

[@thrall1342]

Wow, that intro sequence with the bridge/CIC (?) procedures seriously gave me goosebumps ! Only problem is the artificial chaos by not including a spoken ID, as somebody mentioned earlier.

[@Abrams6578]

All thats needed now is to play the soundtrack for Greyhound in the background and youll have a real intense time

[@adubs365]

That opening cut scene is possibly the best thing i have ever seen in a naval sim game

[@irrusitikaani7205]

Please jingles… make this another fantastic entertaining series just like cold waters. They go hand and hand and i see much potential in the full release. That tutorial on the basics was awsome. Sent chills down my spine when they started shouting general quarters general quarters all men man your battle stations! Im not even a sailor and that was awsome.

[@benhooper1956]

Looks like a gripping game. My grandfather served as an engine room chief during the Battle of The Atlantic, with the Merchant Navy. Although his ship was never hit, apparently he could hear through the hull of the ship the whistle of torpedoes as they either missed his ship, or were on target to strike another. Nightmare inducing stuff that stayed with him to his death. Watching this video has felt quite strange with that context, but it looks a very accurate representation

[@LuckyRubb3rDucky]

Love this! I personally would love a series over this. We get to hear your expereince and knowledge over all of it. And I don't think anyone gets tired of that here!

[@davewalker5252]

Last night I watched Greyhound on Apple tv, it is so like this game even being a Fletcher class destroyer.

[@adamthethird4753]

This looks like it is going to be an amazing game. Especially with all the potential DLC options. However, I can't help but express how my face fell when I saw it wasn't a war hammer video. It went down like a Jingles landing.

[@PlazmaKeks]

I'm a simple man, I see a new video from Jingles, I hit LIKE and watch it with a smile...

[@GeorgePrince]

Same here!

[@MrHermit12]

The 2 different doctrines sound like they really compliment each other.

[@subtlewhatssubtle]

In hindsight, they do; Germany simply could not replace equipment and personnel losses with any expedience, so depriving them of even a single U-Boat was a significant material victory. However, at the same time sending U-boats scurrying home in shame having wasted precious fuel and time was also a significant morale and logistical victory for the Allies.

[@Joze1090]

The movie "Greyhound" with Tom hanks does a great job of showing the two doctrines.

[@ELCADAROSA]

@@Joze1090, I sooooo wish Apple would release that film on Blu-Ray or Amazon Prime.

[@Joze1090]

@@ELCADAROSA sail the high seas of pirates and you can watch it any where ;)

[@sgtrpcommand3778]

Oh this has been on my wishlist for ages! Excellent!

[@citycboy]

I actually started following your channel zealously only when you did cold water series .Before that it was for me just an ok WoT channel . It was so well done that I rewatched the series again sometimes later. This reminds me of that series and I'm glad you liked it. I pointed out this game to you last summer when they've put the playable demo but it probably got lost in the comments somewhere . Than it was all manual and I don't think you would have liked it. Anyway, so happy you've liked it. And keep up the good work!

[@robertdevito5001]

I was on a fletcher class destroyer the other day, USS Cassin Young in Boston, so I just saw a lot of that equipment first hand. What a funny coincidence

[@old_guard2431]

Thanks for showcasing this game, which likes a good balance between "simulator" and the kinds of simplifications that allow a single person to simulate a destroyer crew of 250 or so. Add a vote for more videos, recognizing that editing missions down to a workable KZbin length will be a considerable challenge.

[@Swarm509]

I love that someone made this game and it actually works as a solo player game, although I expect a team on each station would be pretty epic. This does make me wonder if Jingles has seen the new sub sim "UBoat" if he like this kind of game.

[@savagecarwash5262]

Holy cow, this game has THE best tutorial demonstration I have ever seen. That level of detail and the quality of the animations is wild. Other developers should take notes, I'm thoroughly impressed.

[@dr1Voss48]

My grandfather did several combat tours on the Fletcher-Class destroyer USS Bullard (DD-660, Kidd’s sister) in the Pacific as an engineering officer (he was a 1943 Merchant Marine Academy graduate). Very happy to see this sort of game surfacing (no pun intended).

[@kristoffermangila]

In my opinion, the towering figures in the Atlantic antisubmarine campaign were Johnny Walker and Vincent Gallery. Walker for his excellent tactics, and Gallery for his audacity in capturing a German U-boat (that particular sub is now in the basement of a museum in Chicago).

[@kwad8]

Video series on this game? Yes please!

[@TheAverageDutchman]

I've played the demo on steam and hot damn is it hard. It really deepened the respect I already had for naval officers and just how much info they have to juggle and process without losing track of basically anything.

[@davidlabedz2046]

This will make a great series of videos!

[@VosperCDN]

Glad to see this reviewed, as I've been waiting for this on steam a while now. Looks like the wait will have been worth it.

[@blinky297]

Those baby flattops completely sealed the deal for the U-boats in the Battle of the the Atlantic. Its cool seeing a game that covers an often overlooked part of WW2. Would love to see you do a series in this. I loved your Cold Waters videos, I imagine it would just as good with this game.

[@jonathonmartin8999]

both american and british doctrine had their strenghts and weaknesses i remember reading some where that the most succsessful convoy escort missions were where they mixed the two groups of american and british escort groups toward the latter end of the war if memory serves it talks about how most often in mixed groups the americans would move to chase down a target while the british either closed formation or rearranged the group to mess wth the submarines own hydrophone i may be misrememebering but yeah

[@ronaldthompson4989]

Akshully Jingles, mid and late war hydrophone sets provided bearings (but not range) accurately enough a sufficiently skilled or desperate U-Boat could launch a spread at a target from as deep as the torpedo tube's inner doors would hold (believe 25-50 meters depending on model). And while they were rare as rocking horse shit, acoustic homing torpedoes did become a thing, which made life extra interesting for escorts until they were fitted with towed decoys. So safer when they submerge, but not safe.

[@Gothiccross666]

I would watch Jingles play the Campaign of this. his expertise coupled with the gameplay is really interesting.

[@Danspy501st]

Jingles: "Sonar can only look forward" Me that had seen someone else play it: Im petty sure you can get your sonar officer to turn the sonar around to look all around the ship

[@Axonteer]

Do we want jingles to do a series on this and afterwards more cold waters? YES!

[@BLKMGK4]

I think this would be tons of fun from the Uboat side! MANY years ago there used to be something called WolfPack I think, somewhat arcade styled but man I played the hell out of it and didn't feel like I needed to be a sea captain to understand it. I'll second the call to make this a series, this would be fun to watch!

[@Nderak]

5 minutes in and im hella impressed by the accuracy and throughness while being brief and displeeling myths without treating their audience like imbeciles

[@SinfulFang]

Loved this video, I hope you will make some more videos on this game. Just like the Silent hunter games but instead of being the Uboat you are the Destroyers hunting the Uboat and I love that concept!

[@twistedsteeltv6130]

So glad you checked this out, been so keen to try it!

[@aaotcis]

I'm glad to see the producers contact you. I highly recommended they get your hands on this-- and give it a proper intro. Thanks!!

[@jamielonsdale3018]

And I just bought it. Well done Jingles, you finally sold me something. No advert has ever worked on me before, so you've done a bloody good job.

[@Foxxtails]

My Father would have loved this game I think, He served on two Tin Cans during his time in the Navy, USS Nicholsan and USS Deyo, he always liked telling stories about them tracking Russian Subs and pinging the poor bastards incessantly. Or a time he yelled at his Captain for walking on his newly waxed floor (He was not reprimanded) Thanks Jingles for bringing treasured memories back to mind

[@Deevo037]

One of my favourite games was a simulator by Ubisoft (I think) called Destroyer Command. It was made as a companion game to the Silent Hunter series and had one of the most intuitive control interfaces around. Sadly it had no development and was discontinued before its potential could be realized.

[@johnweir9447]

They did a really good job of making the naval crews seem so young...these guys look like they never needed to shave, yet are being tasked with guarding supply convoys to Europe during their darkest hour (in a video game).

[@DarrenMalin]

as a lad I worked on fishing trawlers , small boat are more a 'family affairs' But when I move to the large boat they were much more strictly run. I remember one of the old guys telling me off for not reporting something to the captain , he said ' Lad the captain is the brain we are his eye ears and hands' , 'never do any thing without telling him whats is happening'

[@joypops1]

All right, this game for sure depicts what an actual legend the captain of every vessel must had been to be fed all this data and relay instructions with responsibility. It's realistic enough to keep you engaged yet laidback enough to be fun. I like and I will pick this up.

[@kyleeverly9243]

Always enjoy when Jingles tries a new game

[@airsoftmanic]

Very good "Greyhound" vibes, awesome movie. Saw the advert somewhere and forgot until i saw your vid. definitely going to have to give it a pickup.

[@CptKnoedel]

i would love to see you play more of this

[@MrShoki44]

It would be nice if there will an RN and/or RCN version (the vast majority of the Atlantic escorts)

[@obvious-troll]

Unfortunately America writes the history books.

[@duncankimmett9418]

please do some videos for this jingles nice to have the insight you give when playing realistic naval games

[@tramachi7027]

18:00 I just want to add...all these factors that turned the Battle of the Atlantic on its head happened in a few MONTHS in 1943. May 1943 sticks out the most as VLR Liberators finally closed the Air Gap for land-based Aircraft, while simultaniously Escort Carriers became more available and also importantly was that the issue of a lack of fleet basins were addressed. Now add to this Naval Radar, Advancements in ASW weaponry and other detection, aswell as the constant use of the cracked Enigma meant that most U-Boat losses happened during and after 1943.

[@LegionOfEclaires]

I've been following this game for a couple of years at this point and I'm so glad its finally out.

[@tracytrawick322]

For 29 minutes I was thinking the exact same thing as your comment in the 30th minute - your kind of game! Great to see, and sense you having Jingles fun. Jingles fun? Yeah, just go rewatch 5 & 6 year old WoW games, that same exuberance can be heard & noticed, as evident by my smile. Another bonus this game is made for me too! Thanks Jingles, from an elder(ly) statesman! Don't let them give you any grief about your youthful beauty! Cheers mate!

[@johnbradshaw7525]

My Grandfather was a radar operator on a Royal Navy V&W class Destroyer during WW2. He sailed on a number of Atlantic & Arctic convoys & he survived the war.

[@tomriley5790]

One other factor on why the Battle of the Atlantic was won - industrial capacity of US ship building and the mass production of Liberty and Victory ships, eventually outproducing the ability of the U boats to sink ships. The other factor involved was the wargaming that occurred in the Western approaches command which rapidly worked out tactics based on the reports from the convoys (for example discovering that the submarines were sneaking into the convoy firing torpedoes and then just sitting on the surface and dropping behind the convoy whilst the convoy itself masked their radar signature from the escorts infront and to the sides, or developing a technique for running perpendicular to the direction a submarine was spotted in and then doubling back to deal with homing torpedoes fired at escorts.

[@Galardomond]

I got some Pulsar lost colony / Artemis bridge Simulator / Star Trek bridge Simulator vibes from this game. Those were some awesome LAN-Games. Sadly no coop here.

[@daviddunster9305]

I had a volume of Canadians at War when I was younger. It showed all the positions of sunken U-Boats,All the way up the St-Laurense in Quebec.

[@brianv1988]

Got so into it started talking like the robot voice NPCs. Such a great game and it's underrated

[@foersterjunior]

yes, more please, all mighty jingles!

[@Duddits333]

I'd love to watch you play more of this Jingles!

[@timothyhouse1622]

That really is an overgeneralization in differences of tactics. When the US escorted convoys they escorted. The difference is that the US ALSO employed Hunter - Killer Groups built around a CVE. Yet, what truly won the battle of the Atlantic was the Coastal Command and US Navy B24s (PB4Y-2) being outfitted with aerial radar. IT had enough range that there was no gap in the Atlantic the U boats could hide.

[@nighthawk7485]

This certainly looks interesting. That said, I wonder why the game considers no ships lost as a minor defeat. I feel like you've done your job if the whole convoy makes it through.

[@smalls1661]

Loved the video Jingles it's right up your alley! pls do the series on this game!

[@hikerdude5265]

I used to play a Microsoft submarine game that had real time settings. It was lots of fun trying to plot solutions manually even though they had the Torpedo Data Computer programed into the game as well. I always liked these interactive games that made you use your noodle.

[@truetoffee8684]

Hedgehog equipped ships apparently did really well because they could fire forward with a big spread and contact fuses before sonar contact was lost.

[@speed150mph]

I personally hope that when this is finished, it expands past just U-boats. I mean DDs in general and the fletcher in particular were the work horses of the navy. They acted as picket ships for task forces, where they fought submarine, surface, and air threats. At nearly every naval battle in the war, from the sinking of Bismarck, the naval battles of Guadalcanal, the invasion at d day, destroyers were there launching torpedoes at ships, shooting down aircraft, depth charging subs and shelling land targets. If they could incorporate all that into the game, it would add a lot to the gameplay and to what it was to be DD captain.

[@danieltaylor5231]

I for one would welcome a Jingles plays a naval simulator series.