Destructive Love: Parallels between Hannibal and Killing Eve

[@sputnik7743]

[nods] i do need therapy

[@sputnik7743]

in all seriousness this was such a well-edited video, thanks for sharing your work!

[@marsultor2749]

This reminds me of in mizumono Hannibal accusing will of wanting to put him in jail (“you would take away my life””no not your life” “my freedom then”) then in season three willingly giving up his freedom for the sole reason of wanting will to know where he is always

[@a.paulafernandes]

"I decided it was time to talk about my favorite subject: Gay people trying to murder ea-LOVE" 😂😂😂😂 SO TRUE

[@rosey480]

There's something so comforting to me in finding beauty through monstrosity in fiction. It's a topic that really speaks to me as a queer woman in a very homophobic country. What I appreciate the most about relationship like Hannigram and Villaneve in media is not presenting queerness as a source of ugliness, but rather a way to find connection in that ugliness. What these people do to each other should obviously never be tolerated in real life, but in a fictional context, it's interesting to view these tools as a way to reclaim those sneers society frowns at us. Oh, you think this is sociably unacceptable, well I'm discovering my soul in this! And as I said, I believe in the case of Hannibal & Killing Eve it works precisely because the situations are too outlandish to ever be considered sane by real life standards and the characters are never demonized by their queerness. Their love might be the most human thing about them, certainly the one element that endears them to the audience the most. Great video!

[@radha4790]

wow I'm so glad to hear this resonated for you!!! you absolutely hit the nail on the head with this and i think its why queer people gravitate towards horror and thrillers!

[@lyricbot8513]

"their love might be the most human thing about them, certainly the one element that endears them to the audience the most. " damn that hit hard

[@possumnest7]

"mechanized fursuit" this is incredible

[@danidkg4071]

i love how well-thought-out this analysis is bc any time i try to explain why i like these shows, it just ends up being something along the lines of "they made murder horny"

[@WaggieMaggieful]

I've taken to calling Killing Eve "funny Hannibal but with women". I know it's reductive, but I love them both and it makes me smile :). This is a great analysis!

[@radha4790]

aww thank you! and so true!

[@Senate300]

Well Killing Eve is Hannibal's more commercially accessible younger sister.

[@batsofman8981]

I just came over from tumblr after seeing your post. I have never seen the James Somerton video, and I have no doubt that the pos hardly did your words justice and didn't even come close to the brilliance of this video. As a science major, I absolutlely adored the halogens/alkali reaction metaphor!! And it drives the point so poignantly?! These characters have left a mark on each other, have changed each other irreversibly, and will have an everlasting bond because of it. Just brilliant. That was so good! I have seen Hannibal and I'm a huge fan, but have not watched Killing Eve yet which I now realize is a dam shame. I had heard of it vaguely but wasn't sure what it was about, and now really want to go and watch it! Thank you so much for that! I hope you have a wonderful day and take care!!

[@GoingRampant]

I saw a post saying Somerton ripped you off, so I watched your original. I'll leave you the compliment I posted on his plagiarist video when I didn't know any better: Brilliant, fabulous even. (applauds)

[@Vickyeverythingelsewastaken]

Joining the army of former Somerton fans who finally get to watch the much better video! 👏

[@oeztc]

can't stop thinking about acts of violence being equivalent to acts of devotion. a knife to the gut being equivalent to a tender embrace. recognition of the other through shared horrible experiences. society calling us evil for decades and then us turning around and saying 'you want evil? okay.' i'm literally going insane this was a v good video thank u

[@sadwasdead5065]

exactly, there's a reason why i call the finale of hannibal's season 2 hannibal's love confession

[@thedracologist2852]

Found you via the Tumblr post you made about this video being plagiarized

[@Annaleebie]

I saw a Tumblr post relating to the plagiarism controversy that referenced this video and I could only look it up by typing the exact title into the search bar, which is pretty frustrating

[@tasnimuddin7582]

This video essay is beautifully worded. I love the way you drew parallels between the two and all of your explanations were so thoughtful. :)))

[@jamestakenaka9247]

dude, i keep coming back to this video. it is SOO well written. thank you for writing it, my comfort essay.

[@lylechafa4368]

this is absolutely stunning - your analysis is super thorough, and i really loved everything you had to say!! your editing was also fantastic; the clips you chose to make your points were spot on. this must have been a huge project, thank you so much for sharing!!

[@radha4790]

AAAHHHHHHH THANK YOU LYLE

[@iovitamonk7409]

ive loved both of these shows for so long and i couldnt explain what drew me to them more than a very specific gay feeling.. but this video actually put words and sense to what me and a lot of other people have felt abt both shows. thank you!!!!

[@khazermashkes2316]

Just saw your post about being plagiarized on Tumblr and wanted to check you out!

[@automatic5]

How does it feel to always be the smartest person in every room you walk into ???????

[@Manticorn]

I got out of a deeply toxic queer relationship a couple years back and I'm still all fucked up from it. Now I see why it was so gripping to be in to begin with. Mutually, I suppose. I was the unconditionally loving Will to his Hannibal. Good thing I never watched James's ripoff of this video.

[@cheddarbaby]

sorry that dude stole your work. Great video!

[@mohanlalpremranjannaik107]

Just like both these series your video is a masterpiece too❤

[@0l._.l0895]

I find it appalling that shows like these didn't get another season or more episodes. Both had so much story to tell and I wish that when shows were being created it would be agreed on how many seasons they would have from the jump. An agreed amount that would let stories be completed to their designated end because too many times do dedicated fans, writers, directors, and actors have to lose out on phenomenal projects due to networks making room for horrible shows or just not seeing the beauty in what it could do.

[@KanadaJin]

Um, I regret to inform you that this was an utterly amazing analysis and it put so much into words about why I love Hannibal in a way I cannot. And I am now positively RAVENOUS to watch killing eve. I wasn't aware of it and as a queer woman myself, am freakin chomping at the bit to again feel what Hannibal made me feel but with the homoeroticism between two women lol. Thanks for this, was exactly what I was looking for in a hannibal video essay. Best of luck on your channel!!

[@mattp928]

omg hey i never expected to see you here haha

[@KanadaJin]

@@mattp928 lol and I never expected to get recognized! KZbin is a small world

[@LiterallySatanOfficial]

I couldn't finish Hannibal due to a weak stomach and have never seen Killing Eve, but this is presenting a great case to visit and revisit both. Fantastic analysis, definitely a lot to chew on here.

[@aysepolat374]

may the plagiarism controversy bring more people your way, dear, you are brilliant

[@K.Arashi]

this is a WONDERFUL video essay!! fuck the plagiariser for taking your work

[@valwest9199]

i went digging for this video for a project i'm working on, i heard about it during the whole uh...thing...and this video is infinitely more charming and genuine than the copy. i hope this video gets twice as many views o7

[@Anon-pq6jd]

Where were you , why do you have so little subscribers and how am I looking at this masterpiece right now

[@radha4790]

new video coming VERY soon

[@jenna8410]

omg, i never realized just how many similarities there were between these two shows before watching this. i loved your analysis and especially your concluding thoughts on intimacy and letting go control. this was sooo well scripted, amazing job!!!

[@etherean01]

Damn, I hate that this aged badly for Killing Eve, alas we cannot escape bury your gays. Still loved the video. Verbalized everything I was thinking while watching these shows.

[@radha4790]

I swear I have the worst luck when it comes to timing(spent this semester writing a pilot about abortion and planned parenthood protestors thinking it wasn't going to be a controversial topic in a few years, turned it in to my professor 2 hours before the supreme court news was leaked) and I was cringing so hard at the finale!! Just imagine the show ended right after they kissed

[@mariamimran2936]

i've literally never seen such a well scripted and well made video! adore your work!!!

[@shortazn97]

hello i am here after finding out you were plagiarized. Never watched James Somerton but I hope he withers in obscurity and shame.

[@Leo-rp1cw]

watched a few of his videos, thought they were well made… glad i can find some better content lol

[@ishathakor]

@@Leo-rp1cw they WERE well made that's how he got people. he had decent production value and made eloquent points because he stole all his points from other people

[@ourlordandsaviorkurapika9818]

Just finished Killing Eve after having watched Hannibal twice and I planned on watching this video for weeks after finishing both. So, let's gooo

[@snowshinobi]

Ohhh I enjoyed this so much. Your interpretation of Hannibal Lecter in season 3 as willing to wait for and sacrifice himself for Will-to the point of blocking the dragon's bullet by standing right in front of the window-challenges how I personally experienced season 3 (I read almost every action Hannibal made with some amount of sarcasm). Looking forward to checking out more of your work!

[@radha4790]

omg wait that's so interesting that you think he was being sarcastic? how did you feel about hannibal offering himself up to the fbi from that lens?

[@beansavacado8134]

Sniff sniff- do I smell an underrated videoessayer?

[@mohanlalpremranjannaik107]

Everything you said is so true ❤.

[@very_nervous133]

I’m so glad I find this video analysis!

[@CipherDragon]

i don’t go here but i liked the video for you to boost it 👍 i mean for the algorithm or whatever to boost it idk i came here from tumblr pfft

[@evapadilla8342]

I think both Hannibal and Villanelle are dangerous and stunted (Bedilia wasnt wrong!). The thong is that Will and Eve are also dangerous and stunted kust in a complementary way. They see their counterparts as they are but instead of disapproving they are tempted by their darkness, and embrace it.

[@briannajoyce3079]

the use of Mozart's Lacrimosa is so good and so inspired, mwah!

[@nunyabusiness660]

I watch a looot of video essays and never has any one video captured my attention and love just like this one did. It's beautiful!

[@cryptidrecording]

God bless the Luna pics in the background, bless this editing and bless the expression of everything that’s destroying me about these series, godddddddd.

[@radha4790]

YESSS STAN LOONAAAA!!!!

[@exemplar9478]

I'm bumping this right now for the algorithm, fuck plagiarism

[@shay5555]

Really good analysis! Didn't realize just how similar the two show's seasonal story lines were.

[@harmony9493]

Loved the essay even being extremely late to both of these shows I’m still elated to find quality semi recent content based on these shows 🤍 I hope you make more content I love the format style 💖

[@lesbianwillgraham]

this is such an incredible video and articulates emotions i feel so strongly and have a hard time putting into words. but watching it 24 hours after the finale of killing eve season four is rough to say the least

[@Eiraqucam]

This is a wonderful analysis and deserves alot more attention.

[@userMIA709]

Sorry for commenting over a year later but thank you so much for making this video I’ve been looking for someone to talk about the parallels between the two relationships, the way you broke everything down and compared the two was amazing!

[@qmonk5108]

Please know that I started watching this and I'd only seen Killing Eve and this video convinced me to watch the entire run time of Hannibal to be able to rewatch to its conclusion with the proper understanding. *is insane*

[@user-me1ec3om5j]

I have been searching for an analysis like this and you completely understand the complexity of their relationship and why these two shows are my favorites

[@olpheist9955]

This was SO GOOD, amazing analysis and first video. I agreed with everything you said and like it can irritate me so much when people reduce these relationships from the shows and judge them by the contexts of their own lives. With Hannibal in particular, I almost see it as a fairytale since the world those characters live in is constantly filled with mass murdering monsters and corruption. Hannibal and Will’s characters are fantastical themselves, an extremely intelligent and sophisticated cannibal and empath so powerful they can look at a room and basically time travel to the past and watch what happened and also completely understand the serial killer’s mind. Feel like people shouldn’t take it so much at face value since it’s unlikely they’ll find themselves dating a cannibal and one so ridiculously intelligent and sophisticated as Hannibal for that matter. I mean his name is Hannibal for gods sake. And villainelle is called villainelle.

[@kazkk2321]

There is no such thing as destructive love. The relationship between Hannibal and will may not be what most want to get into but it is not destructive as such. Not in the way the title assumes. They are too similar, unable to empathize easily with the other but greatly need the other. It’s a tragic romantic story of the complicated nature of human existence. We should appreciate these better

[@maddilekuberri1535]

i keep coming back to this video because of how beautifully its made..!!! your choice of words along with the music and editing make for an incredible experience its insane, thank you sm for uploading it

[@diana_brownie]

There's something so beautiful in the desire of violence and romance with boundaries, something that bdsm understands when is done right

[@julesnova92]

Thank you so much for this!!! I actually have seen very few people compare these masterpieces surprisingly, but i could never coherently compare them until this video! Also just found this after rewatching hannibal for the second time this month :')

[@casir.7407]

for it being your first video essay, this was amazing!!! at first some audio issues were a bit bothersome, especially some sudden changes in volume; but the flawless script, editing and the sheer enthusiasm and passion you put into it, its really one of the best video essays tackling relationships ive seen. a lot has been written on tumblr on these two couples, but you managed to structure it succintly while drawing parallels that make it the more understandable and even eye-opening to how these sorts of relationship advanced and develop with the passing of the seasons. im highly anticipating your next video!!

[@radha4790]

lol took your notes on audio and invested in a real microphone, new video is up!

[@jucharpentierbouilly6980]

I am so grateful for this video; Everything you said was somewhere in my head, I am a fan of both shows and I always knew why, deep inside of me. But hearing someone explaining it, clearly and beautifully like you did; is incredible. Thank you soooo much. I love you and your work, thank you for seeing this characters that way. IT'S BEAUTIFUL✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨

[@radha4790]

awww tysm!!!

[@moonstonevase5963]

I love these styles of videos and although I've never seen either one of these shows I felt like I already have an experienced it for everything that I could have... Your video was well put together and you were well spoken I'll be sure to come back and watch your channel again soon

[@buumbaby]

absolutely gorgeous and incredible, id love to divulge more analysis here but i have been reduced to a amorphous blob who feels very validated in its hunger for more monstrosity in the defining of love and identity... yes yes very good

[@sorcellerie]

I do need therapy, however I also need a Russian, blonde, stunning hitwoman working internationally to love me and ruin my life.

[@radha4790]

😮‍💨 FELT THAT.

[@scaredofpeanuts]

I love this commentary, but something I'm also so so impressed with is how you've scripted it and edited it, especially the editing, all the clips you used didn't just emphasize your points but expounded on them. I have a lot of thoughts on these shows and specifically these two dynamics that are incoherent rambly and will be kept to my tumblr tags where they deserve to be, but I just wanted to say that the technical aspects of this video wowed me as much as it's content.

[@radha4790]

aaa tysm! that means so much esp since this is my first time editing smth like this

[@chasingstars4]

this is absolutely amazing for a first video essay, and if you ever make another I'd be happy to watch it! :)) great job!

[@dytlcbeotb]

I love this video your knowledge and passion on the subject is so clear and the presentation is immaculate 😙👌

[@anapaulinacabrera]

Thank you much for creating such a thoughtful video. I find very interesting how queer narratives, despite not being many, are able to portray loving as equals, while there are tons of heterosexual narratives and most of them just depict vertical relationships. I really enjoyed your essay :)

[@syren1022]

bro i did NOT expect that lacrimosa remix at the beginning. stunning video!!

[@lucasinsertknifeemoji3941]

this is so well-worded and you did an amazing job discussing this topic thank you so much for this video you're so right

[@mischalecterTV]

Before I watch the video which is probably just going to end up insulting my sanity, I'm going to be real. I enjoy destructive romance shows because the characters are more vulnerable emotionally. Even in Hannibal with one of the characters being emotionally stunted because he is a serial killer cannibal, there's a lot of emotional expression vulnerability and it's expressed often times. In a way we're both characters are willing to talk about their insecurities and their flaws, and instead of just using that to weaponize a character or weaponize a person, there's some form of understanding on both sides that create a bond. Now, am I saying that I want to date a serial killer that might end up killing me because I threatened their security? No. Even though I am absolutely fascinated with the relationship between Will Graham and Hannibal lecter. I would never want to have that kind of relationship. But I do enjoy watching it because it's not the typical "Oh my god I love you and blah blah blah" , it's emotionally driven and we get to watch that roller coaster and it's fun. I tend to find other shows where characters are just all lovey-dovey in the stereotypical way to be so boring and disgusting.

[@radha4790]

my thoughts exactly! so what did you think after watching the video?

[@n0shortageofblood]

you're brilliant and fiercely intelligent and have a beautiful heart. that conclusion legit made me cry. thank you for your thoughts.

[@silverplim]

i've watched this video like 6 times now bevause killing eve / hannibal are my favourite shows and the parallels between them highlighted in this video are amazing. the obsessive, destructive love between the characters reminds me of richard siken poems.

[@andreaschell2109]

Amazing video, I love everything about this. Unfortunately Villanelle and Eve's story got an outrageous ending on the show (I now need to read the books). One thing I disagree with: Beverley wasn't Will's best friend. I'm not even sure you can call it a friendship... They were coworkers, liked each other, but that's all.

[@jackforrestventimilia3486]

this is so through and the editing so so fantastic i demand more !!!!!!!!

[@radha4790]

Thank you best friend!!!!!!!!!!!!! should i show doc roc?

[@catbfs]

THIS IS SOO GOOD! wow seriously amazing job... hannibal is my all time favorite show and i think will is possibly my all time fav fictional character..i haven’t seen killing eve but its def been on my watchlist! I’ll be sure to check it out👊 anyways love this a lot! Interested to see more video essays from you

[@fae.vv.]

incredible analysis!!!! this made me so happy. thank you!!

[@miadowne940]

I really love how you have gone into the analysis of the characters and the relation between the shows

[@4BYSSALTEETH]

this is the greatest thumbnail ive ever seen in my entire life

[@Adriane0874]

I feel attacked by this video lol 😂❤ Edit: nevermind, I freaking love this.

[@babyaxolotl6288]

This is now my favorite video on youtube! I adore it! You did Hannibal and Killing Eve (my two favorite shows) true justice. As a queer person I love to see a representation that is not just lazy stereotypes of the lgbtq+ community. Your analysis was brilliant!

[@steff7154]

You said this was your first video meaning there will be more? Yes please, this analysis is amazing!! Thanks for sharing it. Edit: your script is 👌

[@keithgm9574]

Here again on valentines day! I love your analysis ! Happy Valentine's day! 💌

[@radha4790]

aaaaaaaa tysm!!!!!!! :,^)

[@mitsukosukino]

Well, so killing eve ended with a bury your gays trope😬 nevertheless, excellent video, and great parallel between both series!

[@possumnest7]

16:08-16:35 made me cackle so loud skshdbdk

[@sjrose5438]

this was AMAZING please make more video essays you really have a talent for it :))

[@samaspic31]

clean editing, insightful commentary, this is an awesome video. keep up the good work !

[@SPOLIERZ]

This is sUCH a beautiful take. All applause to you! Rarely feel compelled to comment, but you're work made it impossible not to. Sent it on to quite a few people who would share interest :)

[@PrimroseBlack]

This is amazing, will definitely be put on my favorite video list.

[@sheriffofnada8775]

Very fun, very interesting. I'm looking forward to future essays. Got a subscribe.

[@SerenaSurprise]

goodness both these shows have taken over my life but dang that comment about expectation UGHHHHHHGHGH excuse me while I obsess over small clips of the shows again

[@OliviaCampbell02]

wow this is the best video i've ever seen where is their oscar! i think everyone should like and comment

[@radha4790]

SO TRUE BESTIEEE

[@keithgm9574]

that was a beautiful analysis!! you explain so well , thank you for this wonderful video!

[@hecknfrick4236]

Came here from Tumblr, at work now but I will watch later. Sorry your vid got copied

[@montserratvenegas3893]

I don't usually write coments but this essay speaks to me so profoundly that i needed to say thank you. Since the first time i watched Hannibal i felt so atract to the show, the grotesque and the elegance within. I am a musician and the use of music it's so beautiful, when art seems to speak to the highest, like some bach and handel's pieces used in the show, but are confront with the visceral of a pounding heart and the exciment of death, that on a contradictory way is tide Irremediably with life... Just i don't know jaja i'm rewatching Hannibal and in my journey to discover my own queerness and neurodivergence is almost like a comfort show jajajaja Pd: Sorry about my english, i'm not native

[@radha4790]

thank you so much! if you’re interested in hearing my thoughts in music in queer film, you should check out my video on Us and Moonlight!!!

[@vedantpatil3286]

that was amazing. so glad i found this channel.

[@jasminebrett1360]

Don't have much to contribute, I just really loved watching this and wanted to leave a comment because it was too good not to. I guess one thing I can say is that my girlfriend and I watched Hannibal together recently, and while I was very enraptured with Hannibal and Will's obsessive romance, they saw it as a lot more toxic and therefore not something to feel positively about. We talk a lot about these two different interpretations and, after watching this video together, I feel like they get my (and your!) point of view a lot more. So thanks for that!

[@radha4790]

that's so cool, i'm glad to hear it!

[@itisadessertwine]

i just gained 3 brain cells

[@silvrsoul]

you deserve more hype!! excellent, well thought out video!

[@shannonh2105]

Great video ❤

[@lostsoul2868]

I finished Hannibal last night it was beautiful

[@celineosthaus8032]

There are some toxic pairings that I despise, like VaniJeanne in Vanitas no Carte. I love Hannigram though. Maybe I just prefer healthy pairings when a series fails to get me invested in a toxic relationship. But when a show is focused on a toxic relationship, depending on the execution I might like or even love it.

[@fawv8107]

yooooo this is amazing and so on point, legit makes me want to rewatch them! great work