Detailed analysis of Jehovah's Witness statistics from Watchtower reports.

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jwfacts

6 жыл бұрын

Using Watchtower's annual publisher reports spanning back to the 1960's, growth rates are analysed and compared, showing a steady decline in growth.
There have been a few comments offended that I described faders as volatile. I am sorry for any unintended implied insult. I actually recommend fading and commend people that see the religion is not the truth and have the strength to fade. I was referring to a small group that have not determined if it is the truth or not, become inactive, and then go rushing back each time there is a calamity, in fear that maybe Armageddon be coming.
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@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 5 жыл бұрын
I was pioneering and serving in bethel for almost 10 years. Now I am a goatfarmer. Much better. :-)
@LloydEvans
@LloydEvans 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Paul. It's fantastic to see your videos popping up in my subscriptions! :)
@Sportliveonline
@Sportliveonline 6 жыл бұрын
well done
@LivingNow
@LivingNow 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent! You've helped so many people wake up, yet you stayed humble. Love that too.
@jwsuicides8095
@jwsuicides8095 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. You are a gift to those both in and out. 🌻
@jwsuicides8095
@jwsuicides8095 6 жыл бұрын
Mugglepump 1 Your unedited comment came up on my feed. It was very insulting in the UK! 😂
@khanwh74
@khanwh74 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul. Your site helps me to wake up in 2013. I save so much time and channel them to my family, parents and relatives, new friends. Now, finally Awake! we leading the best life ever, ,
@RiverDanube
@RiverDanube 6 жыл бұрын
I just realised the other day that a person can still be counted as a publisher if they only reported a handful of times throughout the year for a minimum amount of time. They could, in fact, miss every meeting during the year and still be counted as an active JW by putting in a report. I mention this because the organisation ridicules the way other religions count their number of followers.
@buffalobillswin187
@buffalobillswin187 5 жыл бұрын
I left in 1994. It appears that everything has gone down hill since. The Internet is a more powerful tool than the local library. I just wish they never published the Revelations book. I studied that hard, and it messed me up for 20+ years. :(
@runfromthetower3547
@runfromthetower3547 6 жыл бұрын
This video is just like your website, factual. Your website assisted my entire family to learn TTATT. I am grateful for this, and I thank you Paul. Virtual bro hug to you.
@EfrainRiveraJunior
@EfrainRiveraJunior 5 жыл бұрын
I spent the last 32 years of my life as a J-Dub. Ex-bethelite and 8 years as a Regular Pioneer. It took the last 10 years for me to finally wake up and start fading from the religion. But I'm 100% awake and realize that this religion is a false one.
@davidpost5823
@davidpost5823 5 жыл бұрын
Im the same bro.hard to believe isn't it.im curious what teachings did you figure out was wrong?
@EfrainRiveraJunior
@EfrainRiveraJunior 5 жыл бұрын
@@davidpost5823- It's a bit of a long story. But the first thing that started bothering me was, at a Circuit Assembly, the District Overseer stood at the platform and talking about the 1914 generation said, and I quote: 'The Governing Body has NEVER said that the generation of 1914 would be alive to see the end...' I just reached into my case and pulled out the Live Forever book that has a drawing of a baby born in 1914 and an old man staring at the destruction of Amageddon. I even talked about it with a fellow pioneeer. If he had used the usual 'new light' excuse, I would've eaten it up. But openly lying was a hard pill to swallow. Then came... Things I saw while working in Bethel Puerto Rico. The child abuse cases. The Broadcastings. The annual meeting with the skinny pants talk. Tony Morris in general. The Overlapping of generations. The Australian Government Commission. And finally, Crisis of Concsience plus a lot of research. When I found out about all the false dates given by these people and how the governing body are nothing but business men and Pharisees that act just like my local elders... that cemented it. I might share my story in the future.
@davidpost5823
@davidpost5823 5 жыл бұрын
@@EfrainRiveraJunior ya im familiar with those points too. When i heard a quote from the GB that if we were to read the bible without the aid of the publication s we would resort to Christendom teachings...what a eye opener.probably because thats what the bible really teaches.duh ! Here's a new 1 i saw this morning from "witness for Jesus" the new nwt in the glossary doesn't have jesus in it ! But everyone else including a false gods name? Wonder why? Maybe 1 day they will return to true Christianity !
@gbnomore3918
@gbnomore3918 5 жыл бұрын
@@EfrainRiveraJunior Hope so, sounds interesting!
@gbnomore3918
@gbnomore3918 5 жыл бұрын
@@davidpost5823 Wow! I never noticed that. There is Satan, Demon, Nephilim but no Jesus. Yet, they managed to slip the "governing body" into the Outline of Contents for the book of Acts, par. 15.
@theoracle56
@theoracle56 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. When I was doing graduate work in World Religion I came across a journal article by an African American researcher who did a detailed study of how JWs went after the African American community in mass in the 60's and 70's because they saw them as a disenfranchised group that would be easy to convent when the promised a utilitarian and utopian existence where race and class were not seen as a hindrance. I could go on, but it is not surprising that they are still going after disenfranchised groups and people that are struggling and suffering because they take advantage of them and give them false promises to bring them in. As many African Americans became educated and had a much larger access to higher education more and more left and called out their bigoted teachings. Fight them with real truth and facts. It's the only way.
@jwfacts
@jwfacts 6 жыл бұрын
They concentrated on the deaf community over the last couple of decades and now refugees for the same reasons.
@exjwcareerhelp7493
@exjwcareerhelp7493 6 жыл бұрын
Love your brain Paul. Every year I drag out my Excel spreed sheet and do some basic calculations. Thanks for such a wonderful presentation. Saved me hours of work.
@Juan-yp8es
@Juan-yp8es 6 жыл бұрын
Great job Paul thank you so much for helping so many people including me.
@paulbuswell6566
@paulbuswell6566 5 жыл бұрын
I can just hear them now. "Jesus foretold that in the last days the love of the greater number would cool off." Then if the numbers increase " see how Jehovah blesses his organisation" They have an excuse for everything.
@historicalbiblicalresearch8440
@historicalbiblicalresearch8440 5 жыл бұрын
The Internet where religions come to die.
@annetteblack6882
@annetteblack6882 6 жыл бұрын
Thank You Mr. Grundy for all your hard work in activism. You're a Gem in this community🌞
@MrDexterdogg
@MrDexterdogg 5 жыл бұрын
These stats are very promising, The JWs destroyed my childhood and that of my siblings, we are in our 50s now. I want to see this dangerous cult null and void....in my lifetime
@laurelevans7198
@laurelevans7198 4 жыл бұрын
Cerebral Cortex CEH I hope you’re doing better now.
@exjwwokeup1617
@exjwwokeup1617 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you!
@karenmoody2763
@karenmoody2763 Жыл бұрын
Me three
@TallKulWmn1
@TallKulWmn1 Жыл бұрын
When people have access to the internet they can learn the truth about the truth. Most of us watching this have had access to knowledge. We escaped the Wicked Tower lies.
@zoemurphy4372
@zoemurphy4372 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Paul for all your thorough research. You were my ‘go to’ source during my awakening period. Good to see you on KZbin 😀
@lindalawton5399
@lindalawton5399 6 жыл бұрын
He was as well, for me!
@ismaelamadot3893
@ismaelamadot3893 Жыл бұрын
Hello brother. Paul, you are much loved and appreciated. Keep up your excellent and hard work. Many blessings to you and your family.
@barrjohnm
@barrjohnm 5 жыл бұрын
Is this why people are begging me not to leave?
@johnw5584
@johnw5584 5 жыл бұрын
Did you leave yet? If you stay, they will feel better about themselves. It's like a sinking ship, and they want you to go down with the ship.
@Christian-mn8dh
@Christian-mn8dh 4 жыл бұрын
Did you yet?
@phase2763
@phase2763 6 жыл бұрын
Well researched!! _"12,000 hours to generate one publisher."_ -- so it takes the average JW around 100 years to convert one publisher. That's an appalling conversion rate.
@runawayslave1724
@runawayslave1724 6 жыл бұрын
In my career I was a sales exec. It was so difficult to win new customers but once you had one you looked after them. WT shuns, marks and neglects - esp women their 'great army'. What sort of a business model is that? It takes 100 years to find a new customer and then they treat them like that???
@asapstan
@asapstan 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see an updated video on these numbers
@vera747
@vera747 6 жыл бұрын
Memorial attendance is simply counting children of publishers...... they sure tricked us by leaving that out.
@crawdad19141
@crawdad19141 6 жыл бұрын
"Leaps and Bounds" right over the cliff. Great video, thank you!
@vickyc4708
@vickyc4708 6 жыл бұрын
JW facts you are an amazing young man a genius thank you so much for the facts ! I know videos of you are hard but you are Grand such a gift to all of us who have left. I was 30 years and lost 4 children and 9 grandchildren. But I can not live a lie.
@JimCampbell777
@JimCampbell777 5 жыл бұрын
I still think the numbers are way too big. I would like to see a much steadier decline in baptisms as this is the trap for new victims.
@janedow9782
@janedow9782 6 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic, it is obvious with a little analysis that by their own statistics they are not doing well, but by their own mouth they say they are doing exceptionally well. I have been raised to recognize this as lying. At the very least, it is putting a spin on information. Thank you for your careful analysis. Peace
@janedow9782
@janedow9782 6 жыл бұрын
An interesting and reasonable analysis. The more videos I saw of them and the more I was pressured to go door to door, the more threatening and guilt that was pushed on me, the more I started reading my Bible at home and praying at home and coming to really know Jesus Christ and finding the very thing that they keep pretending to have. Peace among men of goodwill.
@jeneb52
@jeneb52 6 жыл бұрын
Good analysis Paul, and yes the tower will fall soon! Been directing many to your site too. Keep up the good work.
@joycelemonier4132
@joycelemonier4132 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all the hard work to keep people informed. I left over 30+ years and just started looking at these sites. I 'm so glad I was out but your's and others have confirmed i did the right thing. My life is happy. I hope these and other videos will help those leaving. Thanks
@claytonbenignus4688
@claytonbenignus4688 5 жыл бұрын
joyce Lemonier Seek out the XJW Community. They are progressively getting stronger and they are a natural support group for you.
@Theoriginalgreenring
@Theoriginalgreenring 6 жыл бұрын
In less developed countries people are not as savvy when it comes to awareness of scams, plus the allure of materialism that comes with belonging to something wealthy, portrayed as “clean”(or elite), and “American”. I see this org becoming an online overseas “mission style” joke of a religion.
@wtfnitinfoten6068
@wtfnitinfoten6068 6 жыл бұрын
Well done. Very good video! Thanks a lot for your time in doing this. I will show this to a lot of JW friends I have who are PIMO (physically in mentally out). More power to you!!!
@FluWorldOrder
@FluWorldOrder 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for putting together a comprehensive report on the figures.
@borninpixie4035
@borninpixie4035 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your thorough detailed explanation, and extensive knowledge and research. I can imagine the time involved putting all this info together, and then the time involved creating the video. Your research has helped many to wake up.
@bubblestar2314
@bubblestar2314 6 жыл бұрын
I add my voice to the many here who thank you for this video and all of the time and effort which you must have spent making it. Wow, it's quite a lot of study to figure out all of these statistics. Thanks again Paul. :-)
@glorialeach7301
@glorialeach7301 4 жыл бұрын
When my husband passed away in 2016, I received a sympathy card from someone in New York and I thought maybe it was one of my husbands working friends but NO it was a total stranger, a JW that had no idea that I was a Disfellowshipped JW. I thought, ‘ well, someone is scouting newspapers from all over the states to see who died. And the fact that she was able to get my address was real creepy. 🧐
@lokisfriend
@lokisfriend 3 жыл бұрын
I think that was a nice gesture, , , it's very easy to get addresses online
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 3 жыл бұрын
@@lokisfriend Not when someone is trying to get you into a cult when you are at your lowest point emotionally speaking . JW are trained to take full advantage of persons doing that time One of their most effective approaches, catch the person when they are emotionally out of it.
@lokisfriend
@lokisfriend 3 жыл бұрын
@@ExJWCriticalThinker With all due respect and I'm not looking for beef here but my mom is a JW and I have never heard of any 'training' to take advantage of hurting or weak people. I have noticed a lot of embellishment from the Ex JW community about a lot of things. Not saying that's what you are doing but I have seen it in these forums.
@king77703
@king77703 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent stats but the JW'S still don't believe you.
@lindalawton5399
@lindalawton5399 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for putting this all together! Sharing with JW family members and local elders, as I'm not blocked -yet!
@paradiselost1914
@paradiselost1914 6 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't bother to share this "Apostate" info with the elders. Elders like the power and importance they have in the congregation and are more likely to continue as a JW even if they have doubts about some of the Watchtower's doctrine. Speaking to them about anything you've learned from Apostates will only provide the evidence they need to DF you. Since you are not yet shunned, please just use this info to save your family and perhaps closest friends. Start with those you know are spiritually week. Getting yourself DF will only cause you to loose the opportunity to awaken those you love the most. Keep the communication open by being a fader and don't get yourself shunned. Family members that use the internet a lot are the ones I'd try and wake up first. Also try and save the young ones as early as possible as that can keep them from loosing opportunities for a good education and a normal life.
@lindalawton5399
@lindalawton5399 6 жыл бұрын
I am no longer a JW, have family waking up, and local elders have zero idea I was once a JW. So far all are accepting my forwards, texts- as I am not blocked.
@jeffreycanning3187
@jeffreycanning3187 6 жыл бұрын
I got 5 out of a hundred for an arithmetic exam when I was around 10 yrs old. Teacher told me “ You never actually got any right, but I gave you 5 marks because you ruled a nice border around the page. So someone like me really appreciates that you can do this stuff... Bravo...
@emilyalbanese255
@emilyalbanese255 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul, obviously a lot of effort and energy has gone into this presentation.Very interesting how only 3% of bible studies will become converted.Also interesting to see your debunking of the "Jehovah is showing patience" line. Each day Jehovah needlessly waits costs thousands of lives. Something I had never considered.
@cindykieper-wilhite2373
@cindykieper-wilhite2373 6 жыл бұрын
I love these fact's, & statistics, they just go to show TTATT. Thank you ☺
@danieljuliomorales7605
@danieljuliomorales7605 6 жыл бұрын
❤️it! ❤️it! ❤️ it! Down with the Tower of Babel!!! God riddance. ! Yeah!!!
@DownwiththeTowerexJW
@DownwiththeTowerexJW 6 жыл бұрын
Yes- Down with the Tower indeed!
@gustavscholten597
@gustavscholten597 6 жыл бұрын
Daniel Julio Morales Jehovah’s Cherrypickers .......
@thmpick
@thmpick 6 жыл бұрын
Best report of JW growth I've ever seen & professionally done! Really Good Work, Thanks a Lot!
@iflex2790
@iflex2790 6 жыл бұрын
KEEP UP THE WONDERFUL WORK
@thrivingexjw2061
@thrivingexjw2061 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! Great video.. gives us a visual !!!
@porgguy4962
@porgguy4962 6 жыл бұрын
Great work as always Paul. Thanks for taking the time to do this. This is so helpful to cut through all the spin the org puts on it's figures.
@janedoe-io8xj
@janedoe-io8xj 6 жыл бұрын
they're declining rapidly that's for sure,
@daisyjune5135
@daisyjune5135 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you. It’s so good to know that no one wants to be a JW.
@MoneyStory52
@MoneyStory52 6 жыл бұрын
You're missing the point. In the first destruction, only 8 souls were saved. Sodom and Gomorrah only 3. It was never about quantity. It was always about quality. Thus expelling those who refuse to live by God's standards. Few are on the road to life. Many are on thr road to destruction. Matthew 7:13,14.
@daisyjune5135
@daisyjune5135 6 жыл бұрын
Rosemarie Wright Exactly most Jehovah’s witnesses are NOT living by God’s standards.
@kristiankris4498
@kristiankris4498 5 жыл бұрын
i do
@billjones261
@billjones261 5 жыл бұрын
The WTS has been preaching a false Gospel since its inception as a religious publishing house . When C T Russel the founder of the WTS. proclaimed that Jesus took to heavenly throne in 1874 and that 1914 was most likely going to be the year of Armageddon. He went against Jesus's instructions for preaching his new Kingdom order in that no one knows of the time not even him. Admonishing his followers to not set a time upon god's own sacred. He also instructed his true followers to not listen to men who say things he didn't give them to say.
@weskal5490
@weskal5490 6 жыл бұрын
A logical and inevitable outcome for a cult that peddles a bronze age fairy tale.
@pussandkitty
@pussandkitty 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Paul for your research and time you dedicate to your videos.
@MelissaBrownapt215
@MelissaBrownapt215 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis, (said by a math phobic, x). Beatiful sad eyes. Comforting voice. Easy to listen to.
@blodbrodet
@blodbrodet 6 жыл бұрын
Good news!
@kittylove2975
@kittylove2975 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your channel, your voice, dedication, and to the"real truth" about the Organization.🌞
@thegulfcoastexperience
@thegulfcoastexperience 6 жыл бұрын
The Bible says the great crowd can't be numbered 🤔
@johntingle455
@johntingle455 6 жыл бұрын
Earnestly Contending no....it says no man was able to number...read your scriptures more closely....Question: have you ever counted to one million...much less millions more? In math class it was demonstrated that a human could not live long enough to count to 1 million out loud if they counted nonstop 8 hours a day for 7 days a week.....the lower numbers came fast but the higher numbers like, "Two hundred and fifty even thousand four hundred and twenty three" takes a spell. Those in that verse came out if the great tribulation meaning they were survivors. Let's say every person on Earth survived....are you claiming that they couldn't be numbered? Of course they could be....God could number them all.
@gowdsake7103
@gowdsake7103 6 жыл бұрын
who gives a shit
@MsCaleb79
@MsCaleb79 6 жыл бұрын
If you don't join, armageddon might be cancelled.
@mr.bread3circus
@mr.bread3circus 6 жыл бұрын
Moshe Finkelstein LMAO!!!! 👏👏👏
@gustavscholten597
@gustavscholten597 6 жыл бұрын
A’geddon will be postponed indefinitely ...... due to bad ratings it will be shelved.
@gustavscholten597
@gustavscholten597 6 жыл бұрын
Moshe Finkelstein The production team at Warwick are working overtime to come up with a new REALITY SHOW...!
@gustavscholten597
@gustavscholten597 6 жыл бұрын
Moshe Finkelstein .....More Light Please....
@gustavscholten597
@gustavscholten597 6 жыл бұрын
Moshe Finkelstein Er..make that.. MORE LIES...
@aperosmall4935
@aperosmall4935 5 жыл бұрын
In active and will never support this watchtower anymore
@falkonerr
@falkonerr 3 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/iqa2nHVtor50mMU
@Mike-01234
@Mike-01234 6 жыл бұрын
Have some in-law family who are JW what I noticed was many don't really follow the JW religion but they keep going because their family is stuck in it many are what I call a jack witness they don't want to be shunned. Any organization that forces their members to stay members aren't really going to get very enthusiastic effort out of them.
@reinemazidath5466
@reinemazidath5466 5 жыл бұрын
This is what i am doing . I am no jw in my heart anymore , but i stay because i want to keep links with brothers and siters , plus i kind of like their way of living . I feel very well within the organisation despite i know all is bullshit , the governing body is masonic , we are brainwashed . I just tell myself , well ..after all the principles are still good , so i keep it , plus i feell good in my congregation and my life as a JW , so no need to leave and waste all the good i have from this cult/religion .
@cardboardbox9977
@cardboardbox9977 5 жыл бұрын
@@reinemazidath5466 Glad I'm not the only one. I got baptized at 11 and I'm 35 now. My wife whose only been baptized 8 years is still all gung-ho while I'm outright done with it. I hate wasting my time in field service and at those meetings. I dread the day someone ask me to explain to them overlapping generations from the bible while in field service.
@thinkingman2020
@thinkingman2020 5 жыл бұрын
@@cardboardbox9977 and Leila...i am glad you both are able to compartmentalize your situation. I was a born in and left in the early 90s...even though I faded my family shuns me but that's ok...i got over it and moved to another province and have thrived ever since then. I have watched the odd GB broadcast and these men are not even slightly convincing...it makes me wonder how the average JW can even think these men are special or 'anointed'? But I digress. You may find this interesting post regarding these men: t4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/search?q=harlot
@TheSmoothjazzy1
@TheSmoothjazzy1 5 жыл бұрын
@@reinemazidath5466 What!!!
@Linescrew1Canada
@Linescrew1Canada 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe the Mormons should buy them out. They seem like compatible businesses! lol.
@TarquinMelnyk
@TarquinMelnyk 6 жыл бұрын
Great research thanks. Really helps to point out the failure of JW prophecies
@mrsdanmiller
@mrsdanmiller 6 жыл бұрын
I have known for many years that we could not keep up with the people already alive in our territories, much less the very growth rate of the world. this has always made me not believe in death to all at Armageddon.
@jimbobaggans1564
@jimbobaggans1564 6 жыл бұрын
Mrs. Dan Acceptable losses. Right?
@mrsdanmiller
@mrsdanmiller 6 жыл бұрын
Jim Sherlock I suppose, that could be what they think.
@apostababelindajames7461
@apostababelindajames7461 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@saffronhammer7714
@saffronhammer7714 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Thank you.
@charltonblake9967
@charltonblake9967 6 жыл бұрын
Wow great analysis. I've been very interested in seeing these exact statistics.
@frikandelthaisaus
@frikandelthaisaus 6 жыл бұрын
This is very interesting, thanks for all the work you put into this Paul!
@dannycasey2832
@dannycasey2832 6 жыл бұрын
Hey my brother, I really loved your video! I just now subscribed. I went to your website and enjoyed it but didnt realise you were on YT or I woulda scrammbled over long ago. I love math, but statistics get down to the knitty gritty. Very informative. Ive been wanting to find someone that had a good overview of the statistics for a long time. Ive felt things were everybit this lowness in all areas. They are really hurting. Thanks again, Daniel
@EfrainRiveraJunior
@EfrainRiveraJunior 5 жыл бұрын
I hope you make an updated video for this year's numbers.
@keroberos333
@keroberos333 4 жыл бұрын
Efrain Rivera Junior why dont YOU make it?
@EfrainRiveraJunior
@EfrainRiveraJunior 4 жыл бұрын
@@keroberos333 - Because I don't have a KZbin channel. What's your point?
@pauljoyquilter359
@pauljoyquilter359 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis Paul. Thanks for you accurate data and best wishes from across the Tasman.
@troybarnes9061
@troybarnes9061 6 жыл бұрын
min of 1hr? I used to get taken to the back room if I didnt work 10hrs in a month. 9hrs of those reported was all made up.
@claytonbenignus4688
@claytonbenignus4688 5 жыл бұрын
This type of malingering is a form of fading. To the Publishers who do this I say “Keep up the good work.”.
@elisap3565
@elisap3565 6 жыл бұрын
Brilliant, detailed, compelling analysis of Watchtower data. Thank you for your continued activism.
@barbdowns1
@barbdowns1 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this analysis. I sincerely appreciate these data and the explanations begins them.
@MrMrmetro
@MrMrmetro 6 ай бұрын
I am just seeing this in 2024. I did my own calculations for the past five years. Your projections have come to pass! They have had some negative growth years. Now they are making major changes in some of their doctrine. It seems that when it hits their pocketbooks they CAN make changes!
@reneesalvatori1996
@reneesalvatori1996 6 ай бұрын
I just now saw this too. Wow he was spot on.
@oooooofusmaximus7810
@oooooofusmaximus7810 3 ай бұрын
Indeed 2020 was the first year Watchtower had a decrease in the amount of publishers. Furthermore most countries aside from sub-Saharan African nations have seen neutral to slow growth. Furthermore the members are aging just look at videos from Kingdom Halls and Conventions it’s full of old timers. A demographic collapse is not too unlikely.
@reneesalvatori1996
@reneesalvatori1996 3 ай бұрын
@@oooooofusmaximus7810 And now they will indoctrinate the little ones. Their cartoons are nauseating.
@oooooofusmaximus7810
@oooooofusmaximus7810 3 ай бұрын
@@reneesalvatori1996 Not just the children but teenagers to. The focus on them in recent years is an attempt to contain what they have.
@ThePainterr
@ThePainterr 6 жыл бұрын
Very interesting overall....one point though: Not all"faders" return.....I know of some that have faded because they recognise certain teachings of the Borg is false. They don't disassociate /get disfellowshipped because they may lose too much in terms of family members and the like.
@Himithor
@Himithor 6 жыл бұрын
What about suicide rates?
@claytonbenignus4688
@claytonbenignus4688 5 жыл бұрын
Himithor If this keeps up, you can expect a Suicide Rate of 100% for the Governing Body.
@arthurbarnes8390
@arthurbarnes8390 5 жыл бұрын
Your video clearly shows that if they are going to increase they are going to have to come up with a brand new end of the world date like they did prior to 1975.
@guadalupesalgado5604
@guadalupesalgado5604 5 жыл бұрын
I hear its 2034
@justinthyme5382
@justinthyme5382 Жыл бұрын
Stay Alive till 2075
@kevinMcFree
@kevinMcFree 6 жыл бұрын
superb analysis!
@terryannrose4582
@terryannrose4582 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, thank you!!!
@jsilvanus240
@jsilvanus240 6 жыл бұрын
The internet is a game changer.. same with islam.
@DavidTaylor-ki2ir
@DavidTaylor-ki2ir 6 жыл бұрын
Incredibly well researched and analyzed. Thank you for your hard work on this Paul.
@LovinLife-pv7op
@LovinLife-pv7op 4 жыл бұрын
God bless the internet & youtube.
@jwillusion9448
@jwillusion9448 6 жыл бұрын
Comprehensive analysis well laid out. Thank you for sharing with us. BTW, what video editing software do you use?
@jwfacts
@jwfacts 6 жыл бұрын
I use Final Cut Pro X on a Mac. Self taught with no cinematic training, so it is all a bit rough. Hopefully I will improve the quality over time.
@jwillusion9448
@jwillusion9448 6 жыл бұрын
Your quality looks fine my friend! Thanks for the response.
@arthurbarnes8390
@arthurbarnes8390 5 жыл бұрын
Are there any statistics on how many are disfellowshipped and or disassociated?
@natejones8539
@natejones8539 4 жыл бұрын
Arthur Barnes not sure the WT keep those statistics or atleast publish them. Why would they let the public know.
@NotJahWitness
@NotJahWitness 6 жыл бұрын
I like the way you presented this, but I am a freak of nature who loves stats lol.
@90297ExJehovahsWitness
@90297ExJehovahsWitness 6 жыл бұрын
great video
@ogama843
@ogama843 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Paul.
@byronofcalgary6985
@byronofcalgary6985 5 жыл бұрын
even a year later there still doesn't seem to show a reduction in USA - partly because sharing Halls and selling others doesn't show up as a loss of Congregations - and no one counts halls - also what never seems to change is the Memorial #'s - roughly 20,000,000 attend - 8,200,000 are Publishers - only 20,000 Partake - that gives some interesting %'s - only 0.1% Partake - only 40% of JWs are Publishers ? really ? no way there's 12,000,000 or 60% Curious People at the Memorial - no way the Curious outnumber the Publishers - I can't even imagine any Curious Person going back year after year - - nothing there
@amandahuginkiss4098
@amandahuginkiss4098 6 жыл бұрын
Good video, good website also. Only point I would like to make is that one can be a fader and yet still be disfellowshipped
@truthseekeratheist9105
@truthseekeratheist9105 6 жыл бұрын
Wonderful job with the stats! And thank you for making all this data and information available on your web site. If I’m not mistaken, WT doesn’t give avg publisher data anymore do they? Anyway the difference between peak and average publisher data isn’t terribly large anyway, and it’s fairly consistent. If we had all 12 months of data we’d see the variability and std dev. I think WT massages the data to make things look most favorable for them anyway. That’s why comparisons like you did are so important. Trends are the real insight into what’s really happening in the organization. The data shows that there is no longer any correlation between the number Baptized each year and the number of hours put in to witnessing. The majority of growth seems to be coming from born ins. Even there the membership is hemorrhaging at a huge rate. When I see photos of Kingdom Halls the attendees seem to be preponderantly women. If this is true, where are all the men? Are men more likely to leave? And if this is true then why? This is one of the most misogynistic religions there is on the planet. Why would single women want to stay in? I wonder if there are any stats anywhere on the make up of membership by gender? Again fascinating stuff. The numbers tell the story, and despite how much WT might try to put the best spin on the statistics, the numbers still speak the truth about what’s happening inside WT. Great video!
@johndear7607
@johndear7607 6 жыл бұрын
I believe women don't leave because they end up lacking the education they need to support themselves and their children, they end up dependent on their JW families. Or they end up marrying some jerk within their congregation. Unfortunately, they are very submissive to the men. Like you, I don't believe the stats the WT put out are real, they lie too much.
@truthseekeratheist9105
@truthseekeratheist9105 6 жыл бұрын
John Dear You know, I keep forgetting about that God damn shunning policy. The policy that was behind the murder suicide of a whole Michigan family of four... so terribly tragic.
@johndear7607
@johndear7607 6 жыл бұрын
TruthSeekerAtheist Anonymous - Women who seek higher education regardless of the shunning policy would have a natural tendency to leave at higher rates than women who don't. Also, I'm not interested in your memory problems. Sounds like a personal problem to me.
@truthseekeratheist9105
@truthseekeratheist9105 6 жыл бұрын
Whoa! What did I say wrong here? I'm on your side. Totally unnecessary comment re: my memory. I have two daughters and only want the best for them, put them through college. When you get to be 63 maybe you won't be putting things together quite as quickly as you once did. Do you want people berating you for that?
@johndear7607
@johndear7607 6 жыл бұрын
You should learn the meaning of the word "sarcasm." One should never start their comments with sarcasm, especially to people who don't know you personally.
@Theoriginalgreenring
@Theoriginalgreenring 6 жыл бұрын
In this comments section, I see some Nigerian Princes who just want to share an encouraging thought from the Bible 😏
@sfboo007
@sfboo007 5 жыл бұрын
Happy to learn the truth
@falkonerr
@falkonerr 3 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/iqa2nHVtor50mMU
@originalsue8323
@originalsue8323 5 жыл бұрын
Bert Hemona wake up!Jehovah is not coming the bible said"JESUS is comming.Ho i forgot they put Jehovah in the new testament 264 times when its not in the Greek manuscript .Dont be so blindly in love w a religion,you have a brain use it. Remember God said to be vigilant. Woe to man that beleive in man.
@cardboardbox9977
@cardboardbox9977 5 жыл бұрын
JWs don't teach that Jehovah is coming. They teach that Jesus has already returned in an invisible presence.
@jacoblieberman7492
@jacoblieberman7492 5 жыл бұрын
Did you mean to say cuming?
@shanahobbs246
@shanahobbs246 5 жыл бұрын
I heard that publisher record cards and reporting hours will be going away with. Is this accurate?
@KH-yy8cd
@KH-yy8cd 4 жыл бұрын
When did u hear this??
@justinthyme5382
@justinthyme5382 Жыл бұрын
Now 2022 , it's not true.
@reneesalvatori1996
@reneesalvatori1996 6 ай бұрын
Just found your channel. No new content. Did you go to sone other platform?
@adrianamoto8617
@adrianamoto8617 3 ай бұрын
El barco de la J.W. Va de picada!! Qué Dios me permita vida para verlo totalmente hundido.
@whyimnotconvinced
@whyimnotconvinced 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis. One question though. The chart @17:55 where you show your Watchtower growth projection. I'm kind of surprised you don't expect them to ever reach 10,000,000. Why not, and what are you basing the curve on?
@truthseekeratheist9105
@truthseekeratheist9105 6 жыл бұрын
Why I'm Not Convinced - bend over in the rate of baptisms and the number of hours required to achieve one baptism. It won’t be long before the rate leaving overcomes the number baptizing. Once that happens there’ll be long slow decline in the number of publishers and the love of the many will cool or whatever it is they say when times get tough. I wonder why the WT message is so appealingly to Mexicans? Because right across the border to the north in the motherland of the JW religion, growth has pretty much stagnated.
@MrPerla2005
@MrPerla2005 6 жыл бұрын
ThruthSeekerAtheistAnonymous - I am from México and an ex-JW for over 25 years. Although mostly a catholic country, Mexicans have been moving from the Roman Catholic Church to other denominations on the last 30 years or so. Even when moving from one belief to another, Mexicans tent to be quite fanatic about it and they remain loyal to their new cult.
@jwfacts
@jwfacts 6 жыл бұрын
Why I'm Not Convinced, that graph may be a bit misleading, as it is simply conjecture. The subtle point I was trying to make from it is that the religion is not likely to collapse at any moment now, which many that leave hope for at first, and then are disappointed over years to see that it has not. Rather, there is stagnation in developed countries that I think will start declining more rapidly. This is based on the Australian census data which shows a rapidly increasing average age of JWs. The unknown is how longer the high growth countries can continue that trend for. I hope it won't be too long, simply on the basis that Watchtower cannot concentrate on them due to the financial strain they cause.
@truthseekeratheist9105
@truthseekeratheist9105 6 жыл бұрын
Not only the financial strain it costs WT to convert people in these countries, but once they convert hundreds of thousands or even millions of people, these individual in these countries are not as well off financially and cannot reciprocate and put money back into WT coffers. These countries also are the ones who tend to suffer more damage from natural disaster's because of shoddy infrastructure, and it means WT also has to pay more in relief to their followers in these countries. Overall its a huge money pit. I think the leadership has found real estate is the only really big money maker for them. It could be that efforts to make converts externally will slow down, and more attention paid to keeping the born ins. Right now 2/3 of the born ins leave.
@gustavscholten597
@gustavscholten597 6 жыл бұрын
Why I'm Not Convinced The Mexicans ? They’re just having a go at fulfilling prophecy ! A modern day wall of Jericho is to be built along the Mexican border seperating them from the promised land .... the JW motherland.... the GB will direct all Mexican brothers to the border where upon receiving a sign from the heavens they will all blow their trumpets and the whole TRUMP built wall will come tumbling down !! You’ve read it first here ahead of the watchtower.
@MelissaBrownapt215
@MelissaBrownapt215 6 жыл бұрын
Subbed.
@BurrQ19
@BurrQ19 6 жыл бұрын
The Watchtower has about 15 to 20 years left. The race to the tipping point is speeding up. Good riddance.
@jimbobaggans1564
@jimbobaggans1564 6 жыл бұрын
Katy Wendell I agree. The internet hurts them, that's for sure but there is a sucker born every minute.
@BurrQ19
@BurrQ19 6 жыл бұрын
Not a profit; just a realist. Since the internet, there has been an Exodus at an alarming rate for Watchtower. Statistics and trends show that only 10% of the population in a good portion of the world will be religious by 2050. The point of no return, or the tipping point will be reached as the Watchtower already has the worst retention rate already as regards holding born in's. Basically, the Watchtower is in the position of Sears and Radio Shack. Don't argue. Just look at the facts for yourself. Younger generations will not be buying what Watchtower has been selling, and the new satellites that allow fast speed internet to reach 3rd world countries ensure that the Exudos speeds up. Spoke to some WT insiders. WT already lies about 8 million worldwide. They fudge their numbers. Look at how scared the WT is of apostates and what they know. The English speaking Ex JW Community has only been at it for about 15 years, and has hit their stride. They will only get better, and more English around the world will wake up. While that happens, the Spanish Speaking Ex JW Community will be making themselves known, and then there will be negative growth in ALL Spanish Speaking lands; just like there already is negative growth in ALL English lands already. The money WT gets from donations primarily comes from 2 languages. English and Spanish donations prop them up. They have nearly no presence in China. For Japan it is a wrap. WT is a business. They will fall like other businesses have. They have let go of Bethelites who thought they were life long stayers, downsized other operations, and sold off properties in order to adapt and survive. More to come. Ever read the article about 10 reasons why we may be seeing the beginning of the end of Watchtower?
@BurrQ19
@BurrQ19 6 жыл бұрын
Opps. Not a Prophet. In a decade or so the profit of Watchtower will suffer. J dubya dot ORG is not equipped.
@BurrQ19
@BurrQ19 6 жыл бұрын
Katy Wendell - What part of the WT fudging the numbers do you not understand? Do you know how many people lie about their field service time and still expect to make it into Paradsise? The way these people lie is a cultural thing, and they lie to protect their IMAGE. All the time. Nothing is more important to them. There JW dot ORG used to be focused on getting outsiders in. Not anymore. It is now focused on trying to keep the ones they have to stay in. But, people are leaving. They do not have close to 8 million anymore, but they will keep saying they do. They are a cult. They care about their image. They always lie to protect that. There is no Yearbook for the first time. Why? Think about it.
@BurrQ19
@BurrQ19 6 жыл бұрын
Katy Wendell - Did you know that Watchtower has Circuit Overseers and Elders leaking info to the Ex JW community? The info has been on point. The Internet was something the Watchtower didn't count on being able to do the damage it can to them. It has done the damage and the handwritting is on the wall. In the next 2 decades, most of the die hards who were convinced they will never die will be dead. This form of Christianity ( if you want to call it that) has a weakness in that the beLIEf hinges on not dying, and surviving the change of this system to a God operated system. This present Governing Body. How long should they live? They can push the goal line, but newer generations aren't as gullible with the internet around. Those in the 3rd world countries don't give enough for donations. WT has pulled out all efforts in India. They Are at a stage presently where they are considering doing the same in Africa. After the November 5th Warwick protest, an Ex Bethelite informed us of all the arguing going on within Warwick and what they could do to prevent Kingdom Hall crashes. Also, it was an insider in Warwick who leaked the footage of the protest. WT is irrate they can't figure out who did it. Do you know how many Ex JW who were pioneers, aux pioneers, and regular publishers admit to fudging the numbers when filling out their hours? This is within the WT culture. If you were JW, you know that certain lies were ok. This culture starts from the top down. It all starts with image. They lie more now than ever to protect their image. In 1975 there was a reason for lower numbers. What would the reason be for now Katy? If they admit to lower numbers, it would wake up too many. Scientology fudges their numbers; what makes you think Watchtower doesn't? 1975 wasn't something they could lie about when it came to how many left. This was common knowledge to even the average JW back then. Almost every congregation saw a decline, and many were disgruntled about giving up everything for nothing to happen. They were even more disgruntled when WT pinned the blame on the rank and file. If you are an Ex JW, you know someone who is still on the inside who desperately wants to stop attending meetings...even if you don't know this is how they feel. I am in contact with a few in my zip code who stepped down as elders. Also, why keep arguing? LOL. The decline of religion in the Western world has already happened. Various sources address this. So, your case isn't very strong.
@Thelmajeanne
@Thelmajeanne 6 жыл бұрын
I love this summation !!! Watchtower Bible and Tract Society is going broke. lol
@robstermclean4467
@robstermclean4467 6 жыл бұрын
This religious outfit sounds at best, like a punishment. Yuk. What on earth would the attraction be?
@Allofsitesjannacanadaorerror60
@Allofsitesjannacanadaorerror60 6 жыл бұрын
sounds to me , that the ppl are lonely.... this is a religion spirit of loneliness and fear...... we all from the islam to the witnesses we know Jesus is coming back, but with what wrath
@genesistv5912
@genesistv5912 4 жыл бұрын
tenemos que pasar a la opcion B: pegatinas, folletos volantes, adhesivos, radio, prensa: o como ellos lo hacian: con una megafono de mano amplificado:
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