Detroit's Old Money Utopia Part II: Grosse Pointe Farms

[@ChrisHarden]

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[@mambamolt7353]

As a GPF resident, I must say you nailed it with the facts. I like the way you preserve your videos. It’s good analysis with a good sense of humor. Now what I dislike is when some say the Gross Pointes are “Unobtainable and's only affordable compared to California Beverly Hills” What I have to say to those people is, nobody said mansions are cheap. Honestly, for a family orated place. Yes, it’s very affordable compared to Beverly Hills Ca. But why even go that far? Subjectively speaking, for the most part, all the Gross Pointes are actually even affordable compared to lots of places in Michigan itself. Such as Beverly Hills Mi, Franklin, Downtown Detroit, Ann Arbor Charter Township, Birmingham, Bloomfield Hills, Bingham Farms, East Grand Rapids etc etc. It’s a good bang for your buck for the quality of life and the other necessities that come with it.

[@ChrisHarden]

Yup. It's a great community for those who enjoy the character of those style of homes! Someone who's spent their entire lives in LA or San Fran would have their mind blown when they see how much less a waterfront home in Grosse Pointe would be when compared to a place like Malibu or any coastal community in San Fran... hardly any natural disasters in Michigan to worry about as well. Just 4-6 months of cold and gloomy weather.

[@LeighStClair]

I'm from Detroit and living in Ann Arbor Charter township and you are absolutely right

[@josephsierzengaIV]

What metric are you basing that on?? Bc that is hardly based in fact…

[@moodypet8837]

What I love about GP is its old Detroit and its beautiful. Motown!

[@beverlyw56]

At 22:36 the cemetery there belongs to St. Paul on the Lake. My great grandfather, Isadore Champine resting right there by the fence. The house at Ridge and Moross was his home where he and Great Grandma Mimi (Florence) raised thirteen children.

[@Jorge_V_]

There is not KZbin American history without Chris! ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️🇺🇸 thank you

[@annejohnson6134]

Chris I just watched your video on GPF. As a long time Michigan resident now living in Texas your videos have really provided me with a yearning for home. It is great to visits my hometown, where my grandparents lived in Detroit and some of the suburbs that were areas frequently visited as a child. Your Detroit series is really the best ever! Thank you so much

[@craignovy2090]

Thanks again Chris for taking the time and energy to produce this lushly filmed production. Before seeing this I was only vaguely aware of Grosse Pointe. Because you are well educated, smart, hard working and wise we viewers are able yet again to really see both the how and why some place is the way it is. You so remind me of my brilliant college humanities teacher who taught us how to look at a place as a manifestation of many different factors rather than something which just happens spontaneously. As a retired senior I was interested in taking non credit college courses. Yeah I am doing that now thanks to you! Craig

[@joannunemaker6332]

Grosse Pointe is such a pretty area. Thank you for sharing. 😊❤

[@ChrisHarden]

Sure is, thanks for watching! :)

[@PhantasyStarved]

Thank you, Chris, truly. You pretty much drove by every area that was dear to me growing up, including my childhood home on Kerby. So many memories. GPS '91 forever

[@roysteacysr.6203]

Great job Chris. Very informative and a pleasure to watch and listen to the commentary. Keep up the good work.

[@bobmackay3414]

Chris, Another good video, more white snobbery. I had to laugh at your opening of your Grosse Pointe Park video. Growing up on the east side living close to Moross Road, I experienced it firsthand. Many years ago, after I graduated from Denby, I moved out of state but on one of my trips back to the Detroit area, one of my high school buddies and I were driving on Lake Shore Drive in Grosse Pointe Farms in his Mustang complete with racing stripes were pulled over by a policeman, we weren`t speeding or doing anything wrong. We had driven up and down Lake Shore Drive a couple of times. His car probably stood out. The policeman was nice about it when he asked for IDs. Since neither of us lived near there anymore, the policeman told us to leave the Grosse Pointes and followed us on Moross to Mack Ave. By the way, I am old enough to remember when the area on the other side Alter Road that you mentioned in your Grosse Pointe Park video had houses there.

[@ChrisHarden]

Dang. Crazy story. Next time just drive a newer luxury SUV and you'll fit in with all the other snobs... police wouldn't think anything of you when you pass by, you'll blend right in.

[@Tenebarum]

Same thing happened to me in Palm Beach. They breathe different air there.

[@k8eago]

The police do a nice job of keeping the residents safe. Even residents get pulled over for headlight issues, muffler, tinted windows, etc. Even if there is no threat, it is a trade off for low crime rates. You could do the same thing in other areas and probably see the similar results.

[@BillyT531]

DWB is well known in the Pointes...that's why the crime rates are so low.@@k8eago

[@moodypet8837]

GP police do a good job keeping the area safe. That's why Birmingham is more expensive. GP is nice but surrounded by city of Detroit.

[@TakenTook]

I was familiar with Packard because my grandfather worked there, but I agree with you that most people under the age of 50 would only know about the company if they knew about the abandoned buildings, and most people under the age of about 30 wouldn't even know they made cars there, even if they had heard the Packard name.

[@Cgl3g3nd]

My aunt and uncle have lived in farms and gone to St. Paul my whole life. It’s an awesome place I always love visiting.

[@k8eago]

Great work highlighting the GP area. There is a large boating community, horseback riding, tennis, etc. which may not be as strong inland. There are some stoggy people or snoots, but most of the old money people are the opposite. There are many professionals that work hard for their dollars and they appreciate others. It's nice being able to drive down Jefferson to go to downtown Detroit. Grosse Pointe South is a fantastic school that has a lot of family involvement.

[@ChrisHarden]

I’m sure most of them are great people

[@MichigantoFlorida]

Chris you're spot on, the good folks in Detroit have their work cut out for them to improve the educational system in Detroit.

[@shelbyz1974]

Impressive stats for GPS high school. If I had children and lived in the area i'd want them to go there. Gotta❤your commentary throughout the videos Chris! You always throw in some personal touches that are appreciated.👌

[@ChrisHarden]

Thanks, Shelby! :)

[@AnthonyTucker-sl4zj]

I've always wanted to be able to live in Grosse Pointe Shores!! So serene,august and striking!! ❤

[@Paramount531]

Very nice area! I looked at real estate listings, there was a nice home of approximately 1235 square feet listed for $349,000. Probably high by Detroit standards, practically free by CA standards and a whole lot nicer. Property taxes are pretty high, but you would expect that in such a nice community. I've spent a bit of time in the Detroit area but have never ventured to the Grosse Points, now I want to.

[@josephsierzengaIV]

This video is informative, but it doesn’t do Grosse Pointe justice in terms of how beautiful the Pointes are…some of its most prestigious streets are not visible or accessible to the public or are gated. Not sure what part of California you are from but Grosse Pointe Shores is on par with Holmby Hills, Brentwood, the residential part of Beverly Hills. Up until a few years ago, Grosse Pointe Shores had 3 NFL Owners living there. I know this is more of an East Coast thing, but it’s considered an ‘Old Money’ Enclave of Metropolitan Detroit. New Money area’s Birmingham, Bloomfield Hills, Franklin would be like Calabasas in LA.

[@MickMcGuire]

Fantastic job Chris! Im in Florida but love watching the Michigan vids. Love all the info you share, I learned a number of things in this video.

[@ChrisHarden]

Thank you!

[@SpeedyWinds]

What a beautiful and charming community ❤

[@jetsons101]

MLK Jr's "I have a dream" speech is iconic. It's amazing how so much more character a neighborhood has when every house is different in architecture unlike like where I like live, a tract neighborhood with only 4 different floor plans. Chris, your videos are so enjoyable, perfect humor to information ratio. They are a great way to spend a "Lunch Break." Oops........ Back to work......................

[@pizzaearthpancakesandother2549]

I _CANNOT_ stress enough that Grosse Pointee is FREBCH for "Big Tip" which my wife finds hilarious! She may be a 9, but she's a perfect 10 for humor! Any way, yet again nice tour Chris. "Tres bien" as we say in french! Which means "nice job" apparently

[@AlexanderWaylon]

Nice video, excellent work as always.

[@jetsons101]

Chris, I would never skip to the end of the video........ Now back to the video.

[@andyhamilton8940]

Interesting content. I’m in Florida but both sides of my family are from Grosse Pointe. Hamilton’s and Bourke’s.

[@chiefenumclaw7960]

Great work!

[@ChrisHarden]

Thank you!

[@4945three]

❤ your work. Thank you.

[@ChrisHarden]

Thank you!

[@catholiccrusader5328]

Chris, could you do a video on Mackinaw Island the famous resort?

[@michaelhawkins7839]

It was a great video. However, you missed the historic homes & mansions on Vendome, Cloverly, Lothrop & Ridge. Many were designed by famous architects. Lake Shore Rd makes perfect sense when you're literally driving along side the lakeshore. Thanks again for your wonderful videos.

[@NAzzTheHitMaker]

Such a Pleasant song driving thru those neighborhoods 😌😌

[@moodypet8837]

GP is less expensive than Birmingham. I noticed in GPF they have had one of Ford's mansions listed for a long time.

[@josephsierzengaIV]

Real Estate is more expensive here in Oakland Counties wealthy cities/villages such as Birmingham, Bloomfield Hills, Franklin for example. prices are not as high in GP on average but 3/5 GP’s have a higher per/capita/income than Birmingham and Grosse Pointe Shores is the 21st wealthiest enclave in the US and wealthiest in the State of MI. And there hasn’t been a Ford Mansion for sale there in a very long time… perhaps you are referring to the Ralph Wilson(Former Owner of Buffalo Bills)Estate which just sold for 9M$

[@kevinmeyer8068]

@@josephsierzengaIV started at 9m. They didn’t get that much.

[@josephsierzengaIV]

@@kevinmeyer8068 7.2M for all 3.5 dwellings. Purchased by Matt Cullen Dan Gilbert’s former right hand man, via GM, and now head of the Detroit Riverfront Conservancy the Downtown Detroit Partnership

[@albertmyers7176]

Yup I enjoyed it. thank you

[@AndrewSafadi-x9i]

Andrew’s back with the park passes

[@Comm0ut]

Beautiful area. Wealth is a good thing because it keeps out people who ruin communities. Humans have paid to escape urban living since Roman times and it's easy to see why. The 1920s were peak suburb build quality. I came from one in North Jersey and we'll not see the like again.

[@frankwoods4532]

HAHAHAHAHA, I don't skip Chris. Have you ever or would you ever consider teaching High School History? I think you'd be good at it. Love those Impressive houses, even the smaller ones look great. Thank you again for sharing.😀😀😀😃😃😃👍👍👍👍

[@johnreske1558]

Thanks. The Points reference mattered. I bought and Lovingly repaired/refurbished/renovated a home in Indian Village. 3kinda streets B4 the points. THX for point that other areas were B4

[@moodypet8837]

I always wondered about Indian Village. Is it safe? So beautiful.

[@Detroit_Siggy.]

Beautiful area

[@user-yn7on7ou8n]

Isn't Tom Selleck from Grosse Pointe?

[@ChrisHarden]

No he lived in Detroit.

[@cmthomas07]

Thanks❤

[@ChrisHarden]

Thanks for watching!

[@sterlingskins2204]

I was born in "Grosse Pointe Farms"

[@Leonard-y7r]

Mr. Harden, I like your style of narration, but I must urge you to take more trouble to drive by houses, etc. at a time of day when that are actually being illuminated by the sun-not when, as in the bldg above at 5:35, the sun is behind them and so we can't see a thing of the actual bldg. For an example of a Drive-and-Look video collection whose proprietor always does this, see Joe and Nic's Road Trip. The care that he takes to always do this results in especially attractive and visually interesting videos.

[@moodypet8837]

Good video

[@timbullough3513]

Looks like Milwaukee East Side on the lake ...

[@Ch1n4Sailor]

Nice Video! And I appreciate the sarcastic sense of humor! Just curious are you packing? You seem to drive through some of the most dangerous places to in Detroit, so just curious…

[@AnthonyTucker-sl4zj]

Ehich Pointe borders Saint John Ascension?!? This dim bus driver passed my stop at Warren and Saint Aubin, which I asked him to call-out for me. I got"lost"in a book I was reading and noticed I was at Warren and Cadillac. Being thrown off by all the half-turns,the bus takes on its' route,I asked the driver which direction was Mack Avenue and Saint Aubin,as I'd planned to walk to my church from my current location. But he insisted on taking me to the"Mack Line",but I would've easily trod to my church from East Warren and Cadillac on foot!! But I relented and after a while the driver shouts:"LAST STOP!!" So,now,having no more money on me,I had to walk from Mack and Morross to Mack at Saint Aubin with my Michael Cromer briefcase in tow!! 😶

[@katherinespencer2633]

Utility poles! All over the Pointes!

[@ChrisHarden]

All over the Pointes, all over Michigan, all over the Midwest, all over the country really lol

[@CAROLDDISCOVER-2025]

That's a lot of gross stuff 🤮💵💵💵💵😳😉🤣🤣 After all that hey it's a beautiful area thanks for showing it.

[@relanamapugilo]

💪

[@QuacksThePoet]

Do bloomfield hills pls

[@ChrisHarden]

One day

[@DLeadVox]

🎥🎥🎥🎥🎥🎥🎥🎥🎥🎥🎥🎥🎥🎥🎥

[@bigmeek260]

👍🏽 👍🏽

[@BillyT531]

Thanks, but I'll take Birmingham or Bloomfield Hills.

[@ChrisHarden]

If I was a big time baller I wouldn’t mind a mansion off of Lake St. Clair. Also wouldn’t mind Bloomfield or Birmingham.

[@fallousene5822]

Hi gross point farms

[@erdingtown]

Grose point. Know it well

[@MajidMagi-fj5ux]

You mean “shores”

[@moodypet8837]

I would choose Birmingham and Bloomfield Hills where I grew up over GP.

[@pannamal5182]

Don’t trust their police department in farms

[@lisa4455dickerson]

Please point your camera at the houses! I don’t care about pavement

[@rezzer7918]

Annoying speaker and spoken content

[@rickyboy1947]

and after it was all said and done, the French only got "Ste.Pierre & Miquelon Islands" off the south coast of Newfoundland.....amazing French Islands off the coast of North America...check them out

[@ChrisHarden]

Poor French.