Detroit Silver 4-53T (540 FTLBS 9290 Injectors)

[@AustinRBa]

Just want to say I'm really enjoying these updates as you work through everything on this 453T. Lots of people don't take the time to track progress like this. And who doesn't like hearing a loaded detroit putting in work?

[@detroitgarage9430]

Thanks, really enjoying doing these dyno runs.:). Hopefully it helps others who are looking for more power.:)

[@clayclifford53]

Yes it is nice to have it all documented! I plan to duplicate power combo results for my 453N…unless I can find a T engine and sneak it past the wife…

[@chasewebber4316]

These engines where ahead of their time

[@detroitgarage9430]

I totally agree.:).

[@kencannuck]

I would say that Jimmy's durability, reliability and parts swap ability allowed work in remote areas that would have been impossible before air transport was common. 😊

[@mr_canoehead]

@@kencannuck Many years ago (mid 1980s), when I was in engineering school, we went on a tour of the Canadian Foremost plant in Calgary. They made all kinds of custom equipment and everything they made had 71 series Detroits installed. I asked our guide why they didn't use Cummins or Cat and the answer was that you could be anywhere in the world and find a mechanic who could fix a Detroit. Some of their equipment in action: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eqfTZKlsj9KtsLs kzbin.info/www/bejne/qneWmpiPabV1bLcsi=sOX87DzFF7N1AAGM

[@dogatearock8126]

Making some serious power. Excited to see where jimmy ends up as the tests continue.

[@detroitgarage9430]

You and I both.:). I’m looking to get 275-300 HP, might need bigger injectors than I have.:). I’m about 20 Hp low on the numbers I’m getting:)

[@clayclifford53]

Almost there!

[@detroitgarage9430]

@@clayclifford53 Very true.:)

[@RobertHolster1]

First, those are solid numbers, and the cleaner burn is evident with the lack of smoke! I have said it before, especially with the engine that's in your Super Duty: those engines sound so much like the one in my old Army unit: The 8V92. They made great power; driving an M1075 PLS, the 10×10 trucks with a curb weight of 54,000 pounds. Love your work, sir!

[@detroitgarage9430]

Thanks, great engines.:)

[@billiardballs]

It sure is fun watching you hot rod this 4-53. I did a little research on the T for N swap & look forward to testing the two as well as your upcoming injector video.

[@detroitgarage9430]

I'm glad you're enjoying these videos.:) I'm certainly having fun with this one.:)

[@MrWade1010]

Crap! Jimmy is just showing off now and trying to hurt the feeling of my 12 valve lol, keep up the good work, I'm slowly learning about turbo sizes and back pressure lol, thanks! The Diamond T will fly with this in it, it must be a lot lighter then the SD

[@detroitgarage9430]

Lol, yeah looking forward to getting this engine swapped in the Diamond T.:) It's on a 2008 F550 chassis, so when finished I'm hoping it's not more that 8000-8500 lbs.:) My F350 is 9200 lbs.:)

[@greywuuf]

Looking forward to the day this brings the old Diamond T to life. Seens like a compact durable little package and best part it is not special part heavy.

[@detroitgarage9430]

Going to be a lot of fun:).

[@Bull3tBikes]

Man that turbo just sings! Reminds me of a commercial fishing boat I worked on a few years ago here on the coast, it had a 1979 Mitsubishi 6D16T 7.5L, the turbo had nothing but a steel mesh screen and the engine covers didnt have any sound deadening material left so you could really hear it scream while underway, especially when we were loaded full of Salmon :)

[@detroitgarage9430]

Yeah it's loud, I had to put the air cleaner on to knock the turbo scream down.:) It likes the extra fuel I'm giving it.:)

[@kencannuck]

Ya that sounded smooth and powerful. Looking forward to the injector video. Hope you can deal with my question about newer type injectors there .

[@detroitgarage9430]

Sure just have a think on the content, I’ll have a think on it and make a video.:). There’s a big jump from the mechanic system to the electronic injection. I don’t have any Detroit electronic injectors, but do have a set of PowerStroke, and OM621 injectors I can compare against.:)

[@hanscustomshop]

Wow that thing can sing. Love the thorough testing, and thank you for sharing the results. I've seen my 4-53T setup hit 25 psi in the air box, which really surprised me. But this video makes me feel more comfortable with it. 👍 Keep up the good work!

[@detroitgarage9430]

Thanks, really putting the 4-53T though it’s paces.:). Very impressed with the performance.:)

[@detroitgarage9430]

I watched the last video you posted, sounds really nice.:)

[@rodneymiddleton9624]

Jimmy is straightening out and making cleaner power! Thanks!

[@detroitgarage9430]

Very happy with the out come:)

[@clayclifford53]

Yea the emissions are looking great at that power/ torque! And with EGT’s where they are, looks like you got room for larger injectors with the current setup, looking good!

[@detroitgarage9430]

Thank, really happy with these injectors, still have 9G90’s and 9200’s to try.

[@davidfleishman2275]

Great dyno pulls there. Sure put out the torque there. Interesting to see what change if you change the injector timing.

[@detroitgarage9430]

Very true.:) Going to advance the Cam timing by one tooth and give that a go.:) I have to pull the flywheel to drill in the new tach pickup, so going to pull the housing off and try advanced cam timing. Apparently more power and cleaner emissions.:)

[@AmericanLocomotive1]

I wonder if a waste-gated turbo would be beneficial? Seems like boost falls off with any drop in RPM. Although I'm not sure how well the increased drive pressure when the waste gate clamps down to keep boost up would work with the 2 stroke scavenging.

[@detroitgarage9430]

I’m going to try my K27 on this engine, I have the waste gate set to 30 PSI.: Ran it as a compound in my truck with a Silver 4-53T. K27/K31, removed them for a custom single, injectors were on large enough to make use of the K31.:)

[@timbo19751975]

If drive is any amount over intake pressure , then you're likely to get reverse flow back into the cylinder ( unplanned egr ) completely what you don't want on a 2 stroke.

[@detroitgarage9430]

@@timbo19751975 Yes, too much back pressure is not good.:) Will show up as higher egt's and more smoke.:)

[@grumpasmirf]

I bet the clean airfilter is working nicely. Cheers

[@detroitgarage9430]

Hey Mike.:) Yes it's performing really nice now.:)

[@claytoncoolidge992]

id be really curious to see the differrence in power with used atf at a 100% and 50/50 atf/diesel and used oil with the same 100 and 50/50 and a 50/50 trans fluid/used oil at the same 100 and 50/50 as i try to use mostly trans fluid at more a rate of mostly used trans fluid to diesel in my bus with an 8v71 and feels like i have noticeably more power

[@detroitgarage9430]

I think the btu's from wmo is greater than diesel, so you should have a bump in power.:) Cooking oil is about 10% less btu's than diesel.:)

[@claytoncoolidge992]

@detroitgarage9430 oh ÿa for sure

[@toddstanley7804]

What are you using for water/meth ? Looks like costco w/w. Most w/w is isopropyl alcohol i believe

[@detroitgarage9430]

Yes -45 w/w fluid from Costco, it's a blend of methanol and isopropanol.

[@wyndnra1n]

What's the best source of information on the numerous injector models released? Some people (yourself included) appear to be able to just rattle off injector numbers and the pros and cons. I've yet to be able to find a document discussing injector models that I've been able to make sense of!

[@detroitgarage9430]

You need to get a copy of the field handbook and injector spec sheet. I can send you a copy of both if you're interested.:)

[@clayclifford3930]

@@detroitgarage9430, like @wyndnra1n indicated, I’m in the dark on Detroit spec stuff…and any info you have is much appreciated. I attempted to attach email to response but KZbin pulls it, I did put email address on my public KZbin account, that worked…only way I could figure to get you email address. Thank you, Clay

[@clayclifford53]

I’m interested in any info you may have…but can’t attach email to comments…algorithm removes

[@detroitgarage9430]

@@clayclifford53 [e-mail].:)

[@detroitgarage9430]

@@clayclifford53 Just send me an email and I'll send you a copy of both the field handbook and Injector spec sheet.:)

[@ProjectTrailerz]

Those HP numbers are a challenge for the 6v53T silver series

[@detroitgarage9430]

Getting close, my goal is 275-300HP.:)

[@gruberstein]

Have you ever run used crankcase oil mixed into the diesel? Don't answer if it's illegal in your area. My brother would filter it and mix half and half, he said his Ford pickup never ran better.

[@detroitgarage9430]

Yes, not a lot of wmo, but just what I have in the shop. Burns really nice as long as it’s filtered well.

[@Slugg-O]

How does, or how will, the performance of that engine compare with the one in your Ford? You've got a bullet proof set up with 2 good engines and veg oil, and both sound excellent. Thanks!

[@detroitgarage9430]

It's hard to compare without putting my truck engine on the dyno, or waiting until the dyno engine is in the Diamond T.:) I'm estimating I'm getting 240HP and 475FTLBS of torque with water meth in my truck. The truck has different liners, camshaft, bypass N blower. The truck is cleaner as well with no visible emissions.:)

[@logan1484]

9290s and 9g90s much different in size?

[@detroitgarage9430]

Slight increase is fuel delivery in the 9G90’s and a different plunger. Was near the end of production, so the 9G90’s had the latest design changes. Should expect a cleaner burn with 10 more HP.:)

[@ruxoneto6560]

​@@detroitgarage9430if I remember 9g90 have one more hole in the tip , run cleaner , slightly more hp !💥

[@detroitgarage9430]

@@ruxoneto6560 I'm excited to try the 9G90 injectors as well.:) The 9290's are really nice, but like you said the 9G90's are a better injector.:)

[@bobg3034]

Great job on that 4-53T ! Sorry but who showed you how to run a engine on a dyno to get peak numbers? Not having WOT and slamming to water brake controls to pull the engine down to fast will give you faulty readings.

[@detroitgarage9430]

Thanks, just getting the feel for the new water pump and how the engine responds. Those are wot pulls.:) Smoother runs to follow.:) Replaced the old pump with a new pump at 67 gpm@45 psi.:)

[@wazza33racer]

Something to consider.........Switch blade Variable turbos. Jaypaydirt who runs Cat earthmoving machines on his channel swears by them. 900F is very acceptable EGT......room for more power )) The bigger injectors are getting a little more boost out the turbo, but the turbo still seems a little big too large, look forward to seeing the smaller turbo dyno'ed, that will provide a good reference.

[@detroitgarage9430]

Yes, spoke with the guys from Switchblade 5-6 years ago for my truck. Price was what kept me from buying one, watched JPaydirts videos on his Cats. Looks like a nice unit.:).

[@prevost8686]

👍

[@detroitgarage9430]

:)

[@lewiemcneely9143]

YAAY!

[@detroitgarage9430]

:)

[@lewiemcneely9143]

@@detroitgarage9430 A-PLUS!

[@greywuuf]

Yay ! Comment for the algorithm

[@detroitgarage9430]

:)

[@mr_canoehead]

I think if you are adding 20hp as a correction factor, you should also be adding 40 lb*ft. The fan and pump are stealing torque and therefore horsepower. It doesn't make sense to add to one and nor the other to me.

[@detroitgarage9430]

Thanks, that makes sense.:)

[@lamarzimmermanmennonitefar5269]

Cummins guys are tagging 14-1600 egts😅

[@detroitgarage9430]

Lol, Jimmy’s not happy at those egt’s.:).

[@gregwooldridge8864]

I've owned a Toyota hilux ln106 for 26yrs. I want to fit a 3 53 in it and retire it on the farm. Probably get another 26yrs out of it.

[@randymagnum143]

I think a 3-53 is a capacity challenge for the *bed* of a toyota.

[@detroitgarage9430]

Should be a lot of fun.:)

[@ThePaulv12]

Ditch the correction factor. It's just easier to keep it simple. What is the correction factor giving you? A real but slightly inflated output but for what purpose? All it does is complicate the mind and make NO difference to the price of fish (I'm giving my age away with that reference). Free yourself from the meaningless mental gymnastics and just use the gauges with the engine as dressed, OR alternatively you could use an external waterpump (powered by a battery) and remove the engine fan and use a blower for the radiator and intercooler (but then you'd be correcting the other way). Seems like a waste of money at the expense of mental angst either way LOL. Just sayin'...

[@detroitgarage9430]

Thanks, after I posted that, I realized no one is running fans on their dynos. All set up with Dyno cooling towers.:)