Sheard family talks C.O.G.I.C. church roles and The Clark Sisters | ABJ Extended Interview

BridgeDetroit's Engagement Director Orlando Bailey meet swith Bishop J. Drew Sheard and his wife Karen Clark Sheard, of The Clark Sisters, at the Greater Emmanuel Institutional Church of God in Christ (C.O.G.I.C.) for an extensive never-before-seen interview. The three discuss Bishop Sheard's leadership role and responsibilities at the helm of the C.O.G.I.C. denomination, as well as his wife's role as First Lady of the Church and an award-winning Gospel artist.
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Episode 5008/Web Exclusive Extended Segment

[@bakeembakeem9852]

She looks at her husband with pure admiration and love

[@rashadbishop1465]

Everybody wore out the Finally Karen album lol. It's still being played like it came out yesterday and I still love it!🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@beingkylerjade1139]

I’m wearing out “Balm in Gilead”😂

[@rashadbishop1465]

@@beingkylerjade1139 everybody is lol. Balm In Geliad is the National Anthem of Gospel lol 😂

[@tasheinacanty-white8407]

Lol! Yes, this is so true! That album was 🔥!

[@rashadbishop1465]

@@tasheinacanty-white8407 oh yes it was 🔥🔥🔥

[@Crazy-kk9jt]

Facts it is a Timeless Gospel album.

[@mrakennedy]

The way Lady Karen spoke about her husband and their relationship almost made me wanna have a marriage! That’s absolutely beautiful!

[@lthomas8797]

Laughed at "almost made me wanna have a marriage "🤣🤣🤣 "almost"

[@donna9127]

They say anything in public like every pastor and wife not the truth

[@mrakennedy]

@@donna9127 That’s not for me to determine.

[@donna9127]

@@mrakennedy ijs every church couple is happy 😊 right

[@michellemalone7844]

I love this couples transparency and true authenticity of realness. God bless Bishop and First Lady Sheard. ❤

[@phatboysbakery]

Yes!! I Love them 2 as a Couple. I agree 👍🙏 I seen Bishop J Drew Sheard 3 times in person, for the 1st time in the year 2000 in person preaching at our Local Oregon State Convocation in Portland, Oregon back then👍🥰😇🙏 I have seen 1st Lady Karen Clark Sheard 3 times and briefly spoke to her in 2011 at The Cogic Aims Convention when it was in Dwntwn Houston, Texas👍😇🙏🥰

[@drkat1359]

I admire the way that he covers his wife and children

[@klion3924]

We don't realize how COVID has affected us mentally, emotionally, and spiritually. I'm glad they being so transparent in this interview. We never think about all Bishop Sheard and KCS go through behind the scenes.

[@barbjohnson6268]

"Singing soothes the soul, but preaching frees the soul." Wow, what an amazing woman of God. She is so humble and so is her husband. Such a real and transparent interview. I pray that God will continue to bless, strengthen and keep the Sheards. 🥰❤😇🙏

[@bluetruckhos9926]

Singing don't really run parallel with preaching....yes preaching does frees the soul but singing has no affect on the soul..

[@arlethalewis3318]

Singing does soothes my soul.

[@Sc0rpion]

@@bluetruckhos9926 Music does soothe the soul and there's biblical proof of it. Read 1 Samuel 16:14-23.

[@bluetruckhos9926]

@@Sc0rpion I agree..

[@queenvictoryowens776]

Well to be honest hearing her say that it sounds to me I have been running 🏃🏽‍♀️ from preaching I say YESSS Lord free my soul to do your will!!! I Pray for strength and self-doubt of somethings in Jesus name, Amen 🙏

[@MotivationXcelleration]

I always respect someone who is honest and shares the bad times as well as the good

[@lookitwasnotme225]

She didn't share but a second

[@daneas115]

OMG!!! My brother Orlando Bailey did a phenomenal job, interviewing Pastor and First Lady Sheard!!!! The flow and energy of the interview was simply amazing!!!

[@eileeno2947]

I love that your your brother is filling social media with good people and the voice of God. He has a gift and a great ministry of his own.

[@RONJAE212003]

Yesssssss

[@MarioTuckerMusic]

By far, this has been one of the absolutely greatest interviews they have ever done. I pray the continue to be transparent and do more!

[@klion3924]

You can tell he loves KCS to the core! It is not fake at all. The love is genuine vice versa.

[@veronicahines7740]

I just love this couple and they honesty! Karen talking about how he took care/looked after her when she got ill is so beautiful.....now that's LOVE.❤

[@dlfields8429]

What a great interview. I was touched by Bishop Sheard transparency dealing with the loss of his parents. I definitely could relate.🙏🏿

[@jeremiahj3565]

Same here Rest Easy Mom and Dad!

[@cassisuswalton]

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[@niketawoodley1650]

These two are truly special ❤️ Nicely done, Orlando!

[@terrell_h]

“I just give my testimony, very loud “ 😂😂😂😂😂

[@juancpgo]

To see a couple that actually admire each other consistently seems like a miracle… it seems that humans getting entangled always end up resenting each other. It gives me hope.

[@mamanemcakesandtreats3974]

Amen

[@sofumba]

What an amazing interview! I have met 1st Lady Karen Sheard, and am so proud of how she honors and stands next to this great Man of God. He has led the people of God for many years and, being reared in the COGIC family, I know that the Kingdom of God is being advanced through the Holy Ghost using them.

[@rogersimmons7990]

I really appreciate Bishop Sheard's humility and being honest about his struggles. Also, his wife Evangelist Sheard for her honorable spirit. The C.O.G.I.C. is in good hands because of two human beings who love God and each other. Wow! I hope to meet them both one day and share this with them in person. Blessings and Peace!

[@familycc9855]

What a Holy-Spirit inspired interview with Bishop and Sis. Sheard. I can see why God has entrusted greater stewardship of His people in your care.We love you and you are in our prayers. Stay blessed !

[@Mr.Familiaoah]

Wow!!! They were soooo transparent!! This is awesome !!

[@dreshaunjohn2071]

Yoy can see it in Karen eyes that she is emotionally happy and the tear that she sheds is a tear of joy and that she enjoy what she does

[@awillpraise]

Great interview and conversation. I love the humanity they both Bishop and Lady Sheard displayed. I felt the genuineness of them both and belive that this interview has encouraged others to know the GOD that they both serves. Orlando Bailey did a phenomenal job!

[@bluetruckhos9926]

Some of us will never get over being starstruck..... . where is the actual work of soul saving out in the streets preaching and singing to those lost souls? Is that no longer a requirement for the Preachers of today?? Why don't we ever see these people Preaching to all of their super rich worldy celebrities friends.... like snoop Dogg and Nick cannon... The scriptures says to be ye separated from the world....... but we see them doing exactly what the scriptures tells them not to do... and why is that??

[@carlathomas2461]

Omg I have a whole new level of respect for these people. Thank u for your transparency. Please know that your virtual ministry has gotten me through some very painful times in my life. God Bless u both🙏🏾😇

[@marywilliams6252]

Powerful Ministry

[@bluetruckhos9926]

Can you tell me why they walk so close with the world?? The bible tells us to be separated from the world....they love rubbing eldows with the unlgody celebrities...why they never preach to them?? And why they never out there trying to win souls to Christ?? Is this not required anymore??

[@ministershanda2690]

This spiritual couple is such an example for us all. Bishop and Elected Lady Sheard, may our God bless, bless bless you both as you serve God and others.

[@annwilson3296]

Thank you Bishop Shears for sharing your feelings concerning the battles that you went through and it's alright to let us know that you are human. We need more of these kind of testimonies from the pulpit. May God continue to bless you and your family.

[@dlfields8429]

Amen

[@johnnyjay9224]

I love how genuine Lady Karen is during this interview. She was truthful and clear in her love for Bishop Sheard.

[@lakeishamckinney937]

I love the transparency of this interview!!

[@robertbutler9130]

I love to see them interview, they are so connected and feed off each other. Always so gracious and honest.

[@marymalloy2848]

The closeness is a Blessing.

[@MissPamR]

Bishop is Detroit Gangsta! Y’all remember him getting in his son on their show on BET?!😂

[@bishop5298]

Sir you did a good job on this interview !!

[@lynnhoper5875]

Lady Karen is so sweet & kind💜🙏🏽

[@jeanine945]

This interview is beautiful. I love them both. Bishop and Lady Sheard are genuine. This is them. They never pretend. It doesn’t matter what your denomination or where you belong, I guarantee you can visit Greater Emmanuel and feel comfortable and the love of God. They speak to you. They are just very humble. And everybody in the kingdom do not have that Spirit in them. I will go far to say all of the Clark Sisters and their kids are the same. They are for the people just like God want us to be ❤️❤️🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@Jemisonj63]

This interview is “Everything “ !!!! Thank you Bishop & Lady Sheard for sharing your story & testimony !!!!!❤ A 5 Star Interview !!!!!♥️🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@marshamarsha4567]

Really great interview. Orlando - such a versatile player in Detroit - has done what other local media should - engaged with the leadership of one of the most significant Black organizations in the US, right here in our city.

[@marjorieburns4148]

Amen

[@marjorieburns4148]

O God Bless your people all over this world save souls keepus in your will. And bless every house of prayer where God's word is being preach thank God for The Church.

[@oden2sing]

This was such a great interview. Thank you Orlando for having the interview and thank you to First Lady Karen and Bishop Sheard for yes. Thank you for the real and transparent conversation! 🙏🏾🙌🏾❤️

[@shasha6982]

This was an amazing interview. Thank you Lord. Please continue to cover and keep them and their ministry.🙏

[@loreenheath1472]

I stumbled across this video and got captivated. Amazing interview, on point questions and the transparency is so needed today. May God continue to use all of you.

[@bridgettelee8446]

Beautiful interview!

[@tammyleachman1850]

Thank you Bishop and Lady Karen for openness

[@kattiemjtaylor]

One of the Greatest interviews of a Churchmen and and his Elect Lady I have ever heard!

[@gailstringer5817]

Thank you Bishop and First Lady Sheard!!!! I really needed to hear this today! 🙏

[@toneywise2370]

I hardly ever leave comments on video I watch. The transparency that the Bishop and First Lady displayed in this video will set so many folks free and you know in NO WAY did it take away from the anointing and power that rests on their lives. This is what the Body of Christ needs !!!!

[@angelahohn7208]

Thank you for your openness without bias.

[@judahdancers07]

Thank you for being so open. People forget that you are human. However you have a divine calling on your life. I will continue to pray for your family. Lady Sheards oh my you were so encouraging.

[@robbinroberson3520]

Bishop and First Lady so refreshing to hear your transparency in your struggles. God is able 👏🏾

[@lesliesealey5488]

I love the transparency of this interview. Prayer works. But, sometimes you need counseling. I love that Bishop has stated it

[@sarahjudie6510]

Wow...To God Be The Glory!

[@darlenethompson2422]

Love you Bishop Sheard & lady Sheard great interview talking about Ministry & Marriage

[@FrankieReads]

That was a wonderful interview. It was so honest and encouraging. Very timely and good food for the soul.

[@carlabatey7264]

Great interview & q & a with real answers. I enjoyed the entire program. Bishop & First Lady Sheard you represented our COGIC very well

[@seanphifer7699]

This interview is so powerful. To see and hear Bishop and Lady sheard be so transparent is tremendous. They are so genuine and real.

[@elbertb.highsmithjr.1422]

Wow. Thank you for having this interview. Listening and absorbing these great words from these amazing leaders have encouraged me to continue to move forward in ministry and in life in general. I will continue to keep Men and Women in God and to continue to be transparent to reach.

[@RealRoyaltE]

Excellent interview! I love a interviewer that is prepared, engaged and brings good energy. Bishop Sheard and Lady Karen are true examples of living their faith and walking in their purpose in Christ and for the church.❣

[@loririchard397]

This is so powerful. He is the man where husband's love your wives as Christ has loved the church and gave his life for it. She is so happy. She said he never changed not even when she was sick. God bless them. I have not experienced this and wait for my God given husband. Their is a difference.

[@BMBC.GREETER]

To God be the Glory for Bishop Sheard and First Lady, Karen Sheard! To hear Lady Sheard expresses how Bishop was a gentleman and God-fearing man before, during, and now! He is her earthly king, and she is treated like a queen! Beautiful to see them be transparent! But through it all, their faith sustained! 🙏🏽❤️

[@GodWatchesOverMe27]

His authenticity is refreshing. GOD Bless their family with Peace 🕊️

[@heyrobertcarter1]

This was refreshing and real. So happy to know there’s a human side behind the clothe that you now can see!

[@gwendolynconedy7427]

YESSSSSSS, Amen 🙏🏼

[@spaxdlamini6254]

Thank you for doing this, we love the Sheard family in Africa 💯❤️ Great initiative indeed

[@patriciamorgan3171]

I am so glad to hear Bishop say he considered counseling because I too was brought up in the church to not go to a counselor. His testimony as the host said, I am sure freed many people. Inspiring testaments and journey of walking with our Lord and Savior. God Bless you all!

[@mamanemcakesandtreats3974]

Ms. Karen favors her sister Twinkle.

[@tempesttmiller4458]

Great interview!!!

[@kiyonabrown1441]

Their transparency is what draws people to Christ. Love the fact that she asked GD to take the wheel, that's when he does some of his best work. Also loved how Kierra encouraged her dad to get help. That's real life. They've definitely been tried by the fire this season and made it through. They need to keep this going.

[@carolynlong8701]

Love this interview with Bishop and Lady Karen 💕🙏🏾God continuous blessing be with them and the body of Christ 😇

[@lexingtonwalker1174]

Orlando Bailey is an amazing interviewer. Cheers, Orlando Bailey. Wow!!!

[@VCurtis7]

Great interview! Thanks for sharing such good information, I enjoyed the young man interviewer also, very intelligent. Both of you, Bishop, and First Lady, Sheard, your testimonies, and all the amazing things God has done! In your lives, and family. Awesome! Beautiful blessed of God! Marriage, ministry. I have for years listened to the awesome songs, by the Clark sisters. They all are gifted, and annointed, and can sang, and preach, and Twinkie, playing the organ. Karen, that high soprano voice, you can saaang!! Beautiful voice. And your daughter, Kearra, can saaangg! And preach also. God is just so good! When he blesses your whole family!

[@bluetruckhos9926]

Do they ever go and preach to the super rich worldy celebrities like snoop Dogg?? I see they are recording music with the worldy people but I never see them preaching to the worldy celebrities......the bible said to be separated from the world....... If these people are so anointed when why we only see them operating in the setting of the church house.... and it's a reason.. because the church people are easy pray$$$

[@catinastrong4675]

INCREDIBLE INTERVIEW!!!!! This is a Sunday morning msg all by itself!!

[@keenanventress4755]

A wonderful interview...splendid!!! 😃

[@sharonlopez6571]

Bishop, your vision is great concerning the political arena and the church. It would be wonderful if we had a political party that believed in the morals of the church, yet promoted causes that would be beneficial to our people. First Lady, I love you, your mom whose residence is in the presence of our LORD and your beautiful sisters; true ladies of Godly gifted distinction. Karen, I was the lady in the front row that said hello to you with my two hands right before you sang at the inauguration of Brandon Johnson. I thank God for your great and beautiful family! Bishop you represent the church in a most profoundly righteous way! 🙏🏽🙏🏽Karen, you are a living doll as well as your sisters! I am super grateful for you all! Hallelujah!

[@lynettareese9885]

Beautiful interview! I respect Bishop Sheard & Lady Karen then but have a greater admiration for them now! What comes from the heart reaches the heart! They are needed and God has equipped them for such a time as this!! I pray God will continue to cover them and may they continue to find healing through the word of God. Thank you for being a great example of a true man and woman of God and what a Godly marriage looks like. Thank you for reminding us that effective ministry is first seen in the home which allows your outreach ministry to be prosperous! I pray God will bless you both with all your heart desires!!! Lots of luv!!🙏🏾❤️

[@phebet327]

This is a very good interview. And the INTERVIEWER did a great job, by being respectful and insightful, and giving honor to the Bishop and his wife.

[@prencinagreene3833]

So godly proud of you both! I followed your ministry as far as the early 90s. Y’all been consistent even to this day. I will continue to pray for you all and the city of Detroit. Love love love Detroit! Continue to keep it real cause we need it!

[@shirleytowe7649]

Excellent interview! Thank you for your transparency, Bishop Sheard!❤️🙏🏽

[@w.branch3437]

What a fantastic interview!! I really appreciate Bishop's transparency and wisdom. I also loved First Lady Karen's candor when speaking about her changing roles in career and ministry over the years. What a truly lovely, and godly couple they are; their love and commitment to one another is definitely paplable. Kudos to the interviewer for such thoughtful questions and for allowing them to answer without interruption. Listen, I've been Baptist all my life but joining Greater Emmanuel as an online member sounds pretty appealing to me right now!! 😂 God's continued blessings on all!! 💜

[@IAmStillGodsProverbs31Woman]

This is so needed and an awesome interview I love the sheards, keep being authentic Bishop Sheard...

[@lynnhoper5875]

What an awesome interview!!! Soo transparent & liberating!! Love you guys💜💜💜🙏🏽

[@drkat1359]

I just Love Bishop and Lady Sheard🙏🙏🙏🙏💜💜💜❤️❤️❤️🙌🙌🙌

[@davidaharris1926]

Beautiful and Encouraging Interview! Thank you!

[@Iamdmgartrell]

They kept it all the way real in this interview, I could feel their hearts and I pray for continued peace and supernatural strength that only GOD himself can give over their entire family. The interviewer Orlando did an excellent job with the questions 💯

[@keepingitrealandtruthful.5081]

Singing soothes the soul, preaching frees the soul. That'll preach.

[@anashadavis1909]

This was a wonderful and respectful interview. Great job

[@p.o.ppouringonpurpose3789]

It’s totally nothing wrong with seeking counseling. Mental health healthiness is just like anything else. If there was another health issue there wouldn’t be a second thought. I appreciate them for being transparent.

[@1andonlymrskp]

This really blessed me mentally, spiritually and physically!! We are HUMAN and we ALL will experience moments of Brokeness...BUT OUR CONNECTION WITH GOD WILL RAISE US UP! I'm SO THANKFUL FOR MY CONNECTION WITH GOD!! THANK YOU HEAVENLY FATHER FOR EVERYTHING I HAVE GONE THROUGH AND EVERYTHING YOU HAVE BROUGHT ME OUT OF!! ITS ALL FOR YOUR GLORY.. I PRAISE YOU, I WORSHIP YOU AND I LOVE YOU WITH EVERYTHING WITHIN ME! Even in My Wrongs...You Love and Encourage me. I pray for others that do not have that connection with you 🙏

[@MyGirlStarr]

This was so good.

[@stanleywright1548]

I've always had great respect for this Man Of God. But his honest transparency. Oh my!! This has blessed so many. Bishop may never see this, but thank you so much. You and Lady Karen are precious gems to the Body of Christ. Blessings to you both.

[@eatablelibra9644]

I enjoyed this very much! Great job Orlando and God Bless Bishop and Lady Sheard.

[@sherrybrown8608]

Loved this interview!! Continued blessings for the Sheard family!!

[@marvlettedennis9270]

Great interview by the great Man of God and his wonderful wife. I enjoyed every moment .God blessing upon them and their families

[@evelyncole5585]

To God be the glory amen amen!!!

[@lisawalker8425]

Awesomeness, A blessing to see and here. 🙏🏽😇

[@Justcallmebevswinson]

Bishop this is true ministry and evangelism touch people all over the counrty

[@PanamanianPrincess20]

Phenomenal on the transparency. People need to see this & know that IT IS OK, to not be ok & not be ashamed of it. When I had my moment of not feeling ok, I didn’t recognize, or understand it, nor did I have the vocabulary to articulate it; as I was always so super strong & resilient, so I thought something was wrong within myself at that time. Thank God for my revelation - for me, it was healing from a past trauma. Please seek help if your going through a bad time emotionally.

[@jackiequinceiloveit773]

TEARS OF JOY

[@bakeembakeem9852]

Stumbled across this channel, and i am thoroughly impressed, the interviewer did a remarkable job

[@lynnhoper5875]

Thank you Bishop so much for your honesty & transparency!

[@patriciawoodall3903]

THIS HAS BEEN A TREAT OF GODLY SPIRITUAL REVELATION FOR ME THAT I HAD NOT HEARD OR SEEN IN A LONG TIME. BISHOP J. DREW SHEARD AND FIRST LADY KAREN CLARK SHEARD SPOKE SO ELOQUENTLY AND DIVINELY IN THEIR LOVE FOR GOD AND THE CHURCH WHICH TRANSCEND THE POWER OF THE ALMIGHTY GOD THAT HE CAN DO ALL THINGS IN THIS WORLD! GOD BLESS

[@GodsChosenMekAmoR]

Omshineeeee I do not know these people but it blew me away to see her talk about the integrity of her husband. Him almost crying with his wife and just the fact that their daughter is so grounded it’s beautiful. At first glance it’s like he’s probably like all these other fake preachers with titles but the wife don’t lie. She respects her husband and he loves her. God bless them. I love how she says he was consistent from his youth. Beautiful 🤗

[@gregoryevans4203]

Thank you 4 this interview so so powerful!! Touched my heart.and I am a member of Trinity united church of Christ Dr Otis Moss senior pastor

[@DonnaHall8117]

Awesome Testimony. I so enjoyed this Word and I am a Lifetime Member of the Church of God in Christ. Wilmington Delaware

[@joymosley8997]

Excellent interview!!! Great job all around.

[@mimiparkermcqueen8422]

Awesome Bishop & First Lady 👏 🙌 Folks it's true we all have Bishop's cell number, he's active, & loves his members I'm so grateful 🙏🏻 to be a member of GEI Thank you two for all you do!!