Deutschlands Hochseeflotte 1914 / Imperial Navy 1914

[@Scotsmanful]

Ich liebe die Schiffe der Kaiserlichen Marine da sie wunderschöne Linien haben.Und das sie schlagkräftig war wird offensichtlich wenn man sich die Schlacht am Skagerrak ansieht.Diese Schlacht gewann die Deutsche Hochseeflotte.Auch wenn es die Briten dementieren.Dann die Schlacht bei Coronel..Ich selber besitze das Ostasiengeschwader im Maßstab 1:100.Alle fahrfähig.Sie sind oft die Stars bei Modelltreffen.Rauchgeneratoren sorgen für den Flair der Kohlefeuerung.Tiefschwarzer Rauch.

[@GermanGodzilla]

@HeiligesReich2 Hello, the title of the song is : Englandlied (from Hermann Löns 1866 - 1914) The second song is the national auntum of the german empire. It was the same melody as the british God save the King / queen Best regards, German Godzilla

[@jemacofra]

Bismarck (1897): "The only condition which could lead to improvement of German-English relations would be if we bridled our economic development, and this is not possible." The British establishment had determined well before 1914 that war was the only course suitable to bring the European situation "under control"

[@Atwa1981]

herrlich danke!

[@MrBazza86]

Excellent. A lot of Brits like me have a warm appreciation of such a fine German navy (ships and men) in 1914. I enjoyed this film, well done!

[@kevinanderson3849]

It's good to see someone who is capable of having an impartial view over a nation's fleet that once was - 100 years ago - THE enemy...Time goes by, and those who once were foes have long since become our friends, but not too many people can get rid of old prejudices and evaluate events dispassionately.

[@Mafajusi]

bitte mehr davon !!!

[@Pizzawarrior96]

Auch wenn sie den Briten an der Zahl unterlegen haben sie sie am Skagerrak in die Schranken gewiesen unsere stolze Hochseeflotte !

[@911fletcher]

Bei Treffern ging die Ölfeuerung leichter hoch, da Kohle schwerer entflammbar ist als Schweröl. Bei besserer Panzerung wär das nicht so schlimm gewesen.

[@anonymusum]

Bei "Muss I denn" muss ich z.B. an die kenternde "Blücher" denken. Ob die Musik auch zu dem bekannten Foto gepasst hätte? Eine Antwort kann sich jeder selbst geben.

[@jemacofra]

I give u right : Why would England risk a world war in order to stop the development of Germany's industrial economy in 1914? The ultimate reason why England declared war in August, 1914, lay fundamentally "in the old tradition of British policy, through which England grew to great power status, and through which she sought to remain a great power, [...] England's policy was always constructed against the politically and economically strongest Continental power," Karl Helfferich

[@jemacofra]

Hanotaux, who was absent from government for a critical six months when the Fashoda folly was decided, had a conception of development and industrialization of France's African colonies. Hanotaux had a conception of an economically unified French Africa centered around development of Lake Chad, with a railroad linking the interior from Dakar in French Senegal to French Djibouti on the Red Sea. This would have transformed Africa from West to East, but also was a threat for British strategic views

[@chloe7829]

Hi, looks like you, too, have yr private museum. Over the years I have built RCed models of SMS Tsingtau, Emden, Leipzig, Derfflinger, Seydlitz and KM Bismarck, Tirpitz, Nürnberg,, Scharnhorst, Prinz Eugen, Two Armed Kiegsfischkutter and S30 a Schnellboot. Oh, I forgot my flagship the Carrier Graf Zeppelin, the Kriegmarine ships arte all in 200 scale and make a fine picture when sailing on a local lake. Greetings from Dallas Koelschwolf

[@Haris4rings]

@Sokra01 Not bad for the country that defend herself againts the big dogs (USA, Russia, UK, French). How casualties suffered by all allies country, compared to germany?

[@jemacofra]

2- US discovered oil in 1859, but just as a business for years. COntrary to GB: 1882 discovered the Captain Fisher (future First Sea Lord, supreme commander of British naval affairs) discovered oil importance in naval affairs. He was in Bakou (in Russian Caspian see). All the rest was to secure oil supplies for GB, AND to avoid other to get it (Ruaais, Germany, France). This costed 2 WW and the Bolchevik Revolution... We can't summerize everything here but Oil + Mackinder brought GB' war.

[@jemacofra]

British interests dictated, according to their balance-of-power logic, a shift from her traditional "pro-Ottoman and anti-Russian" alliance strategy of the 19th century, to a "pro- Russian and anti-German" alliance strategy as early as the late 1890's, when the emerging alliance between France's Gabriel Hanotaux and Russia's Serge Witte, together with an emerging industrial Germany, seemed imminent

[@jemacofra]

BTW : France had many statesmen who understood the same, but often too late. BTW , Helfferich (who wrote that in 1918) was assassinated, and not the only one in Germany during the 20's

[@PotatoGunsRule]

What song at 4:52???

[@folkestender2025]

It is the German imperial anthem (not the national anthem). It has the same melody as the British national anthem. The melody theme comes from a Gregorian church song from the 17th century and was then later used and modified by several composers.

[@futurecanadian8257]

Grüße aus Nürnberg

[@jemacofra]

BTW I'm glad u wame to a better reasonnable position to just exchange arguments. We never know what someone can learn to us...

[@jemacofra]

"Ever since Germany became the politically and economically strongest Continental power, did England feel threatened from Germany more than from any other land in its global economic position and its naval supremacy. Since that point, the English-German differences were unbridgeable, and susceptible to no agreement in any one single question." (Helfferich)

[@jemacofra]

BTW 1895 not 1896 I missed my point one year ago :-D

[@jemacofra]

Ok,, u got 15% of the point. during the XIXe century it would indeed have been 75%. Now that was 1-Mackinder's british view against Tsarist Russia (Transsiberian) + Franco-German-Russian Alliance (1895) to avoir + Bakou's Oil 2-the Bagdad Bahn, because of both GB's geopolitical view AND the risk to get an independant german oil ==> double reason of WW1: against continental peaceful united sovereignty (1) AND the independant oil for Europe (2) But you are Italian? Do you remember Enrico Mattei?

[@jemacofra]

1- u r right about Mackinder - but he just theorized the general idea leading GB's Realpolitik before the same goes for the Bagdad Bahn : "If 'Berlin-Baghdad' were achieved, a huge block of territory producing every kind of economic wealth, and unassailable by sea-power would be united under German authority," warned R.G.D. Laffan, at that time a senior British military adviser attached to the Serbian Army.

[@jemacofra]

@Sokra01 : this is really interesting the way you understand history wrong, even if saying right key-points. Sie Müssen unbedingt "mit der Ölwaffe zur Weltmacht" (W. Endgahl - nur 10€!) lesen. Ich bestätige, Frankreich oft sehr blöd war. Aber Ersten Weltkrieg war Englands Wille. Karl Helfferich auch zu lesen...

[@terrellhayes2862]

Of 1912 an 1913 commissioning

[@jemacofra]

"ben voyons". England just created an Alliance with France and Russia, using the most insane plots (using Bolcheviks, Japanese, and so on against Russia, Dreyfus plot against France). Then after, England crafted balkanic plots to forbid Germany finding oil through Turkey, BECAUSE an alliance between Germany, France, and Russia (Kiel, 18thJune 1895, 80 years after Waterloo) would have brought the end of British Domination Mackinder views + Oil war brought a GB-crafted War. Tk u Lord Palmerston!

[@jemacofra]

these example to set the question : I understand your views about the only WW1 reason, only german militarism that suddenly erupt thinkuing, oh, I gonna rush the entire Europe, yeah that's so funky! BUT, my wuestion : are you absolutely unable to consider other hypothesis? if so, read "a century of war" (W. Engdahl - in german "mit der ölwaffe zur Weltmacht", to me the best synthesis) Also look for "1932 film" (in french, u'll find a movie which is a nice summerising of some elements)

[@boleynali]

it pains me to say that ship for ship the german ones were superior..mind you they were designed for the north sea mostly, and ours for worldwide use, which made it harder to compartmentalise due to making better living conditions 4 the sailors.

[@kevinanderson3849]

But Germany in the late 1800s and early 1900s also had many colonies around the world, just like the UK and France...They needed a large fleet to guard those colonies in the Indic and Pacific...

[@javiergilvidal1558]

@@kevinanderson3849 It baffles me no end to see that the knuckleheads who "embarked" (pun intended!) Germany in the ultimately ruinous fleet build-up did not so much as take a look at the map. If they had, they would have seen that Germany had NO easily accessible roots to the open seas, and a mammoth fleet would be a waste of resources, as well as a suicidal provocation to the Brits. They just started to build a dangerous, useless, mega-expensive fleet of leviathans which could do nothing but sit idly, bottled up in Kiel and Wilhelmshaven. The white elephant of a fleet which Germany inflicted on herself precipitated war with Britain, and ended in the only possible way: scuttling itself miserably in Scapa Flow. What a shameful, irresponsible waste!

[@AchimReinhardt1]

Sehr Schoen! v.g. Achim

[@jemacofra]

@Haris4rings : WW1 actually WAS an english stab in the back of the whole continental Europe... unfathomable sadness indeed.

[@vespelian5769]

You are learned in Bollocks I see.

[@jemacofra]

Hanotaux carefully pursued a policy of normalizing relations bet. FR & DE, a development most threatening to British balance-of-power machinations. In early 1896, the German Foreign Secretary asked the French Ambassador in Berlin whether France would consider joint action in Africa for "limiting the insatiable appetite of GB...[It] is necessary to show England that she can no longer take advantage of the FR-DE antagonism to seize whatever she wants."

[@Haris4rings]

It is misteriously odd, Germany have to gave up and submit all their powerful vessel includes two 15 inch gun armed battleship to british in 1918, since germany suffering not many loss in all front of WW I. It is realy a stab in a back kind of betrayal for germans.

[@hectorlopez3941]

It's God saves the King in German. It's the same music.

[@jemacofra]

And last, remember it is only the cause of finding the truth, nothing to take personnal here, but understanding this costed us so many blood, that a "Make It SImple Stupid" analysis passes by every relevant "out of the box" elements without being interesting in challenging 'em. Remember the old Europe and the way it was sabotaged... Brits have a big responsibility, but remember not the "brit people" (was the first victime, back early XVIe century):merchant business not people causes wars..

[@hanslangeworth9765]

😀😀😀🤔🤔🤔🙄🙄😢😢😢😭😭😭

[@terrellhayes2862]

To tick off this German ships

[@jemacofra]

"No longer a warmonger." : That is a postulate, my dear friend. A real investigation of History during the WW1 shows how far you are wrong. I'm sorry but you have to really ask yourself the question, whether you did not missed a point somewhere.

[@jemacofra]

yeah. Funky. Could you just give me a fair definition of what a conspiracy is? Then you would understand that History is made of conspiracies... You know? when someone gives me an information I don't master, I take it then after look for further pieces. That is the difference between fact, information and intelligence (meaning : checking an information : credibility, plausibility, crossing the sources) The only point u get is that Whillelm II. was indeed not enough stable as a personnality.

[@roybaker6902]

America had no business entering WW1, we should have remained neutral. And that probably also goes for Britain.