Dev & Naomi Watch Joker: Folie à Deux

[@NoBody-ro5vv]

The issue with him not being joker is joker in the first movie was him. When he was no longer shackled by societies rules and was allowed to be himself he was joker he can laugh happily after that point. So for him to reject joker is a huge “regress” of his character.

[@MrGodgivemeaname]

It also really ruins the whole point that society abused him to become the joker in the first place and it makes zero sense that even MORE ABUSE ( especially the scene with the prison gaurds) would cause him to break from being the joker... the second movie is just antithetical to both the 1st movie and towards the character Arthur Fleck in the first place.

[@SubtleStair]

Joker has no backstory. Therefore, the deconstructed Arthur Fleck's Joker was not the Clown Prince of Crime.

[@NoBody-ro5vv]

@@SubtleStair even if he isn’t comics joker he and the person called joker were the same at the end of the first movie. So for him to reject this identity is a regress on the “growth” we saw during the first film. He didn’t want to be a political actor but he reveled in the chaos unashamed in the person he is laughing without pain or shame, refusing to be pushed down by the people above him anymore, and dance in front of a crowd of adoring fans.

[@P_C-]

Dev, it's probably for the best that Naomi doesn't have a great memory. You don't need to worry about her reporting all that abuse to the police

[@Johnnysmithy24]

Bro what 😭

[@x5132]

lmao

[@dean_l33]

@@Johnnysmithy24 for watching the joker 2 i guess?

[@SkeetersGuitar]

No way Niomi doesn't know what a "made for TV movie" is. We're the same age, and they definitely had those on the Disney channels. I.e. High school musical

[@ebf336]

I was just about to comment this. How can you not parse "TV movie?" Even if you haven't seen one, it's pretty much self explanatory, I don't understand how you could possibly not put that together

[@SkeetersGuitar]

@ebf336 girl moment, I guess lol

[@reuploadify]

How old are you?

[@SkeetersGuitar]

@@reuploadify 26

[@MrRemakes]

I feel like Dev's gonna look like Harvey Weinstein in a decade or two.

[@SkeetersGuitar]

Let's get him in the gym!

[@MrGodgivemeaname]

He already looks like him now. Wouldn't be surprised if he was similar to him downstairs too.

[@dix0n778]

According to Harley's origin story, it was Joker who manipulated Harley to become a villain. She also was a psychologist in Arkham, not a patient. Also, Harley was originally made for the Bruce Timm animated series in the 90s, probably as a way to show Joker was not infatuated with Batman and had a girlfriend or a henchwoman sharing his disdain to Batman and Gotham. I just got my morning coffee, I yap quite a lot after drinking coffee.

[@Gentlemenpickleesq.]

Personally I really liked the original from 2019 because it's almost like an anti batman movie. (I personally never read the comics maybe it shows what I am about to say) It REALLY showed how rotten Gotham was at it's core! We always see the city from Wayne manor or Bruce schmoozing with socialites but Joker REALLY showed how BAD it was how much the people perpetuate a cycle of abuse. (Spoilers ahead for anyone who didn't obviously see the orginal) Joaquin Phoenix REALLY nailed his role of a guy who is both mentally disturbed and a victim of manipulation and abuse (of course this doesn't justify what he does but it shows how everyone around him and near him is perpetuating and being victims of this rotten town). His mother fills his head with this idea that he is related to the Wayne's and they will be saved by them only for it to be shown she is somewhat nuts and Pheonix's character was just some adopted kid that got abused by his mom's boyfriend. He goes to a Doc regularly who downright is shown to be more and more absent and unsympathetic (most likely highlighted by the fact they are losing their funding). And in the end an entire city wide riot being kicked off by him taking out three upper class guys on a train (who get their jollies off by harassing a woman) and taking out one guy on TV. The city and the people are almost like a character themselves and just watching it change almost makes you think "saving" this city is honestly hopeless... And the sequel from what I hear just recapes the first and does SINGING...... what a waste.....

[@Knabtube626]

I think the problem with the analysis of the first film was, those who were negative towards it didn’t even try and understand it. I remember the EFAP on Ralphthemoviemaker’s video where he just compares it to taxi driver in the most mundane way.

[@orboakin8074]

I legit don't usually remember what Dev looks like because of how few of his let's play I watch😂

[@NoBody-ro5vv]

There was no joker shooter no one was dressed up like the joker. That was the media push he was not dressed up he had orange dyed hair and that’s it. Not wearing purple suits, no green hair, no clown face paint, etc.

[@Laughing_Chinaman]

he also picked the dark knight rises because it was the biggest show that day

[@SubtleStair]

It sounds like this movie was just another spiteful post-modern deconstruction of a well-known character. 😮‍💨 Joker does not have a backstory.

[@oneeyedcrow]

Dev will you watch Megalopolis? I would like to hear your thoughts on it.

[@dix0n778]

Bosslady Noomy, Homemaker Dev.

[@E_Platypus_Unum]

Help me, Step-thing

[@porcelainchips6061]

watch Transformers One ! ! !

[@yissssss]

Dev, it would be great if took a shower once in awhile.

[@callumager537]

This video could have been 20 minutes long if there wasn’t random conversations about black cars and straight to tv movies. Ironic, given that the movie in question has abrupt intermission of pointless musical numbers that have no narrative purpose.

[@Ike_of_pyke]

Dort you feel like clowns

[@elpato20001]

what the hell is wrong with naomi?

[@editdotexe]

Video is still being processed uuuuuuuuuuuu

[@InfamyOrDeath-__-]

Dev how on earth do you wear the same two T-shirts everywhere? And that shirt looks dirty, looks like you spilled something on it just below the neck. You don’t even bother changing your clothes when you’re going out to the movies.

[@dix0n778]

Dev has a full closet with the same two shirts, or he just wears them when recording a video because they are part of his character.

[@buzzworddujour]

holy fug the THUMBnail

[@Poodleinacan]

Ladg Gaga as Harley? Sigh...

[@mr.dr.frankenkeys]

Ahhh so Dev is a jew.

[@reuploadify]

No, just I-talian.

[@konstancemakjaveli]

The movie was 10/10. It was not for normies. Those who say it was bad are the normies. They are Harley Quinn. The movie is made for Arthurs, not Jokers. And its especially not made for Harley's.

[@Klob-xo9vh]

Is Arthur/Harley the new Chad/Stacey?

[@konstancemakjaveli]

@@Klob-xo9vh No. Spoilers: Harley tried to manipulate Arthur into being Joker bcuz she wanted him to be Joker, but Arthur decided NO FUCK YOU I WILL BE MYSELF AND FACE RESPOMSIBILITY FOR MY ACTIONS. Its a critique of right and left *combined*. If you think that Joker shouldve been an edgy supervillian origin story, you are Harley. If you wanted Joker to have a political message, you are Harley. If you wanted Arthur to get clearance about who he is and what is his goal in life, and find a semblence of happiness finally, you are Arthur.

[@Klob-xo9vh]

@@konstancemakjaveli Yeah some people are pretty stupid for expecting an origin story about the Joker to be an edgy supervillain story, total Harleys