Devil May Cry 5 - In-Depth GAMEPLAY Retrospective

After all this time, I've finally finished my DMC5 Retrospective. I wanted to get this out for awhile now and I actually had to do multiple revisions for the script to get something decent. I've kinda missed a few topics I wanted to talk about as well but this is as concise I can be on how I feel about DMC5 as a whole.
Intro: 0:00
Campaign, Void, and BP: 1:30
Enemies: 7:38
Bosses: 13:04
Nero: 14:57
V: 28:38
Vergil: 35:59
Dante: 43:17
Concerns and Criticisms 58:19
Conclusion 1:05:20
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[@xDevilNeverCry]

Fantastic retrospective! You've been talking about this project for a while so I'm glad you were able to persevere and see it to its end

[@DarkXSatan666]

Aye! I follow this guy too ☝🏽

[@Uvemvanefly]

I understand your perspective on V and I get why he's frustrating for some but I think a good point to make is that V was created, at least to me, to create a character that fosters a specific kind of playstyle. Obviously its annoying to not be able to reposition yourself perfectly like you can with other characters, or to have to rely on things outside of your immediate control to fight, but that's the idea. He's disabled, he's supposed to reflect a disabled experience. And like you said, you can still play him masterfully. It just takes a particular shift of perspective. I think that its really cool that they managed to make a character who is disabled, who can still fight, whose disabilities aren't completely disregarded the moment that he enters the battlefield. I also think its interesting how he sort of reflects the same playstyle as Vergil's concentration meter without having that incentive. You're supposed to do a lot of crowd control, to understand the enemies you're fighting and keep him in safe, still places where he can replenish his DT regularly so he can keep dishing. That's a particular kind of challenge that, I feel, makes up for his lack of overwhelming mechanical depth. To clarify, again, my point isn't to say you have to like him. I just think that there should be some appreciation for how sophisticated of a construction he is. He's also the only purely new character in V, so he has no iteration to go off of. I think that if he did appear again in another game or an idea like him, they could nail him even more to the point where he's got some more meat on his bones.

[@Dantarn]

Hopefully enough time has passed to where people are actually willing to listen to critique about DMC5 now. When it first came out the hype was so real for so many folks it felt like no one, including myself, wanted to listen to the constructive feedback the higher end players had.

[@SpaghettodelaZiti]

As long as it isn't underthemayo's criticisims

[@Kaliospectre]

@@SpaghettodelaZitilove some of that guy’s videos, but man his DMC5 video made me realize that there’s genuinely just a demographic of people that really don’t understand the value of player expression. Everything needs to have an immediately clear utility to these people. If only he played DMC3 first.

[@ChaserTech]

ngl UnderTheMayo made me go back to Ultrakill so I could appreciate it even more.

[@sygyzy0933]

True, certain critiques from higher end players are super specific tho and don't apply to the general 99% of players who'll never be that good at the game. So while they're critiques might be genuine and accurate theres not much that could be done or will be done rather to address their specific concerns. Like aside from high level play, and aside from comparing it to other dmcs theres really not much to criticize the game on in general. It's very well made on the whole.

[@VictorHernandez-vc5zo]

I love dmc5 and probably have way more hours in it compared to 3. But I do miss the big burst of damage from the devil trigger explosion. And I don't mean to sound like a bitch, but can we get missions like in 4 where it's just a different character going through the same missions. I know it's lazy, but some of these v missions can suck a dick. Who put this dude of all people in a narrow ass hall to fight a gang of lizards? The nidhogg fight for v was ass too. Thankfully I don't got to do it anymore, but why is there a boss fight where one half of his moveset is useless? Other than the uppercut and spinning blade in the air. And I wish fixed camera angles weren't as hated. I'm doing hell and hell and fighting those teleporting blade lizards while the camera tries to keep up is crazy. I know the enemies are more consistent in this one compared to 3, but idk I think I still hate most of the enemies here too. Not as bad as those corrupted angels, the dark magic tit ball is damn near the worst enemy for me. They're just not fun because of how much time they spend running away. Come to think of it, a lot of enemies spend too much time running away and avoiding damage. The king pray mantis and snuggle worm are just really boring. The pray mantis is worse I think because the lock on is it's head, not the body. So it's hard to fight it when you're directly under our above it. Combine that with the camera issues and I definitely fucked up my back forward move.

[@aSkymne]

the alto/bianco proto angelo comparison spoke to my soul man felt like i was the only one who was a little dissapointed by their mechanics compared to what we got in 4. great video as usual

[@ChaserTech]

Yeah they were the most disappointing enemy I've fought against in DMC5. Outside of that, most of the enemies are pretty ok.

[@IdiawesKara]

he didn't talk about Nero grab animations on them, so disappointing

[@TheyCallMeContra]

@@IdiawesKara Why would he? The DMC4 grab anims on the Angelos are so categorically better it would just make the comparison even More harsh.

[@IdiawesKara]

​@@TheyCallMeContra i know, they aim for realism, but thats not worth sacrifice the fun

[@Darkslayer1534]

@@TheyCallMeContra the gimmick of dmc 4 was the buster. They HAD to be flashy or else nero was boring

[@tetsuo9999]

The cats I take care of at my caregiving job are more responsive and obedient than Shadow. Was really glad to hear you rip into V.

[@TDJunkie226]

A great way to sum up why V sucks is by paraphrasing a quote from Hakita, lead game designer of Ultrakill: “the reason I gave all of the weapons in Ultrakill infinite ammo is the same reason as why Dante’s sword doesn’t have durability. Doing so would discourage you from doing stylish things and force you to play in a boring but efficient way.” V’s gameplay, among many other mistakes, effectively gave your weapons durability.

[@goroakechi6126]

V’s more like survival, whereas Dante, Nero and Vergil are about style. he’s much more intended to be a story character then one to really experiment with in combat, and while it’s a bad decision for combat, I get why they did it, and I do respect the choice from a story perspective.

[@soulcyclone360]

Just don't let them get hit. You can also use V's dodges to reset their position.

[@DOT107]

@@goroakechi6126 I think V is also a stylish character while being Survival character. it just that this character requires a bit more planning unlike its other counterpart, they have a safety net when missing a beat, which V don't have which makes him more clunkier than it should.

[@DeathNapalmx]

@@DOT107 Yeah, for sure. I, myself, really enjoy V's gameplay despite having many of the same gripes others do about the character, but seeing as he was clearly very experimental as a new playable character for DMC, it can't be helped really. I probably would've tried to expand upon what he could do in the special edition of DMC5 by adding ways to manually reposition his familiars and more things he can do with the cane. IIRC, he doesn't really use the D-pad at all, so you could give him a way to teleport Shadow/Griffon to different locations while locked-on or swap positions with them. You could also give them new moves that are timed-counters, just something else so you don't have to rely on mashing dodge, Round Robin or manipulating their AI to move them out of the way. It'd also be cool if V himself had moves that use the cane to power up a familiar like having it float around them and reduce damage or do a follow-up attack kinda like summoned swords so you don't have to execute each enemy with Checkmate/Royal Fork spam. IDK, hopefully if they bring him back in DMC6 they do something to give players more control. lol

[@caveirainvocada9438]

I can see why they did it tho, controlling two characters with complete movesets at the same time needs to have a setback for balancing purposes. A shame that their answer sucked

[@grey009]

It's a breath of fresh air to have an experienced and longtime fan give their take on the gameplay instead of casuals who equate games like DMC to "mindless button mashers". Your retrospective covered a lot of ground and I was happy seeing just how far a character like Nero has come in his growth gameplay wise. I hope you'll do more in the future for other games like Bayonetta.

[@AmazDMC]

*yoinks a rupee* i found you grego

[@Coreagrus]

I very strongly agree with you on the Angelos. Fighting a Proto with a bunch of Scudos should have been like fighting Nero Angelo combined with an Alto. Best of both worlds, tough, exciting and satisfying as hell. Instead... well, you said it all.

[@ka1nzero0o86]

Enemies were really hard to spot in the environment. I felt like the game took too much of the visual philosophy from the recent resident evil games. This isn't a problem in those games since thats the intend for horror. I wish they went for more of a stylized look like monster Hunter rise. However since they were in the early development phases of the RE engine, they may have not been too confident in doing so and instead opted in for an emphasis on realism.

[@googlesword9209]

Very likely yeah.

[@qweqweqwadcsc]

"Enemies were really hard to spot in the environment" Even lighting mods do not help for the love of god

[@DarkShaman667]

Thanks for bringing up the inconsistent attack sounds. In DMC4, I mostly listened for attacks but DMC5 requires one to look carefully. Also, the camera really seems specifically hate you, since it rarely bugs out for me. Thanks for this awesome video!

[@salsamancer]

Your criticism of Vergil's trick inputs is on point. I really hate the back to forward input for trick back. I don't understand what Capcom was smoking when they came up with this. My only guess is that they purposely made it difficult as a balance attempt but who the fudge wants balance when playing as Vergil. Just make the input simple so i can be sure I'm not going to accidentally trick up into the boss when I'm trying to create distance!

[@SolidSnake240]

Yea I always thought that was annoying and kind of counterintuitive. In the heat of combat sometimes I'll hold back and then trick and now I'm in the air when I meant to dodge backwards lol

[@Bestgameplayer10]

Lmao, I've never had those camera issues that you displayed at the end but that was funny af to watch xd

[@Headchrusherdeth]

Appreciate this video, I really hope people will take it to heart instead of jumping the gun and going "nooo don't be an elitist". DMC5 is still my 2nd most favorite game ever made but I agree with pretty much all the criticisms made here. And you offer some of the best insight on what makes DMC5 so good at the same time, thank you very much for this video.

[@revolversnake126]

what is your number one game?

[@Headchrusherdeth]

@@revolversnake126 Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater

[@SolidSnake240]

​@@HeadchrusherdethYou have great taste in games

[@LegendOfGroose]

Wonderful analysis on this game! You always have an amazing way of describing minute problems that get in the way of player enjoyment, this was a very fair look at DMC5. I appreciate how much time went into character's movesets as well. I'm glad you were finally able to make this video happen, it was definitely worth the wait!

[@DanySterkhov]

Let's gooo! Happy that you were able to finish this one!

[@WaifuRuns]

fantastic video, love to see this kind of take on the game, inspires me to make something similar

[@LethalPlacebo]

Excellent video, Chaser! You're right about most retrospectives on KZbin just going over story and glossing over the gameplay. This was the exact opposite and I loved it. No matter which games you choose to cover, can't wait to see what you put out next!

[@magusx1125]

Man, this video was amazing. Thanks for putting this together

[@dmcdevils]

That camera issues isnt a bug, it's just an Easter egg for the donguri camera spin 😬

[@master_of_glaives]

i have seen the whole video in one seting its just sooooo good even when i am advanced player i still enjoyed the video i really appreciate the time you put at this gem of a project its atleast 3 months to do this retrospective like thats insane effort but tge results are worth it

[@jameswork-grierson8923]

The lack of audio cues drove me nuts when I was playing this game. Glad I'm not the only one. I often joke that I could play DMC1 blindfolded, because every action in that game is ushered in with brilliant sound design.

[@RedgraveKyo]

Excellent video and lots of Sonic points. After all of these years you still can’t live without putting Sonic OST in your videos 🗿🗿 I would like to point out that Reversals were also present in the pre v1.00 version (played this version in London). It was something patched within a week (provided we did play the last version before the 1.00, but I left with a disc, so it was probably longer). The exact functioning of these Reversals can be found in the « demo Reversal » function of the trainer.

[@ChaserTech]

Yeah I vaguely remembered them being in the game and they were not in the final build of DMC5. Still find it weird that they would do that. Maybe they saw people doing it and thought the players were doing it accidentally? Idk.

[@astahesta123]

Love the background track selections, especially the ones from FFX and UT99, this is also the most comprehensive analysis video on a DMC game I've ever seen. Learned some new things and thoroughly enjoyed it.

[@ChaserTech]

Yeah I've always had a really soft spot for FFX's soundtrack. It works well for commentary styled videos.

[@roverbuddiesroverbuddies9729]

Didnt mentioned style switching color pallete being absent in 5 , which was what elevated players to keep track what they were in 4. Also the screen shakes in JC , enemy step cooldowns and the baffling decision to cancel gun shots without them coming out ( ebony and ivory). Concerns are coming out from my side as a player who wanted to learn 5 on consoles but i just cant. Respect for making this video , bigups to sssiyan and modding community to keeping this game alive ❤

[@rinoiya]

Bro when I heard the boss music from billy hatcher during dantes segment I screamed. Literally unlocked a core memory for me. Great video my boi.

[@kirbdini]

I'm excited to get into this video. I became obsessed with the series and without this channels content I probably wouldn't have experimented with moves and uses outside of combat.

[@superspyro18]

I am so gald you finally was able to get this done this video is so good

[@heliax9924]

An amazing video you gave me a new perspective on dmc4 combat cause i never was a fan off how restricted dantes and neros kid was compared too 5 but all the extra stuff 4 has i can defenently see why people love it so much , learning guard flying makes dante in 4 go from 0 too 100 for me but in a way i am kind glad 5 is its own thing than 4 gives reason too play both games And wow out off all the people i expected too use dusk music it wasnt you MAN YOU GOT GOOD TASTE

[@doomdimensiondweller5627]

Great video I love this kind of depth.

[@NecrotechStudios]

Great video I appreciate all the effort you put into this

[@Hynotama]

Hearing the soundtrack of the Holoska town hub, at night, in a DMC5 video is so weird. And I love it.

[@DominatorLater]

Incredible retrospective, I think you hit the nail on the head with how style players feel about this game p well in the last part. I also can relate to the camera issues in my soul and that rant encapsulates how i feel about it lmaoo.

[@DominatorLater]

I will say though personally, cavaliere gets a lotta flak but I can def understand why

[@EpsiIonEagle]

This is the best video on Devil May Cry 5 that I have ever seen. I really enjoyed it

[@m.czandogg9576]

So so so well done :D I loved it

[@A_better_alternative]

The camera criticism was the funniest part, really enjoyed it but I gotta agree. You're cursed bro, I haven't experienced it that much but I gotta start playing more again so we'll see xD

[@yoariku1]

i think your game is really cursed :D never had this insane issues with the camera. great video

[@neoman289151]

I didn't even know reversals could be done outside of combat like that in DMC5, what a bizarre way to "fix" them. Even as a mostly casual player of the games I completely agree with this. While the kits in 5 are well and beyond anything else in 3D action games in terms of complexity, gimping mechanical depth in favour of the one in a thousand accidental reversal or the one in a MILLION occurence of someone missing an attack or getting hit because of inertia is just, so unnecessary. I feel like most people who engage with this series, even at a casual level, love to see what crazy impressive shit the combo gods come up with and while DMC5 is still a haven for combo gods (especially with mods) it should be a little disconcerting to see Capcom remove options from the game for questionable reasons at best. Especially when it seems to be deliberate and not a matter of limitation or something.

[@colin__burke3416]

Dante is seriously nuts. Each of his weapons and styles could be their own entire combat systems for games, and you get to mash them all together? It’s insane!

[@Sephicent13]

This is a wonderful watch! Thanks for the video!! Also totally agree with you on V. He's cursed to play

[@jdellabeat6245]

Really good video. I came from SetnaroX retweeting your post.

[@SetnaroX]

SUPER good video! While I would never consider myself a DMC pro whatsoever, everything you had to say pretty much rings the same from my personal view, but you were able to explain much better than whatever is I could conjure up myself. This was all very well put together, and honestly, it's giving me the motivation to do something similar for Bayonetta 2 and 3. Perhaps now is the best time for me to write up a script for a future vid.

[@jurtheorc8117]

Good luck on the Bayonetta 2 and 3 videos! I'm more than up for good in-depth analyses of the gameplay of these styles of games.

[@SkylineFanboy]

Beautiful video which pictures the way I feel about DMC4 vs DMC5 somewhat. I was never a great player in these games, I've tried to dabble with advanced tech, combos and freestyling a bit, made a few vids here and there for DMC5 mainly. Still, I like to think I managed to get a bit of a taste for it. DMC4 feels tighter and snappier no doubt and has it's own kind of advanced gameplay which vanilla DMC5 can't quite offer, yet I can't help but feel that DMC5 can still stand on it's own legs well enough in my eyes. For some reason even though I am aware how much more intricate DMC4 combos and freestyling are I always found them more visually pleasing in DMC5 clipss. My wish is that this isn't the end and we will get another DMC in the future, one where maybe the developers notice this kind of critique and try to find a middle ground. I won't lie, maybe it's just my shitty fingers but I found DMC4 a bit too tight for my taste in terms of input timing and reaction once I tried going into more advanced gameplay. DMC5 on the other hand felt a bit too lenient? I feel like there is something inbetween to be found, where the game feels snappy but doesn't require the tightest fine control from me as a player.

[@jurtheorc8117]

I can't help with a new DMC title, but last year had the release of a hack-and-slash title in a similar vein by name of Soulstice that may be interesting to check out. About 7 or 8 hours or so ago, it's also released a new update that adds a training room and a special extra mechanic after beating the game for the first time. Just like DMC5, it's got its own ups, downs and interesting ideas, and is *very* much worth checking out.

[@WildYelectric]

Great video! Extremely late to it, but I’ve been off DMC content for awhile. Look forward to the upcoming anime! Adi (the Director) he’s aiming to make the best show on the Netflix platform.

[@BoMiles]

Great video!!

[@TifffanyTaylor]

The only dmc 5 video on KZbin I haven't watched, not for long though. Make more & I'll watch em too. We're starved for dmc

[@TifffanyTaylor]

Dude holding charge shots while pulling off stylish red queen ex/max act combos with Nero is the best action gameplay ever. always taunt after you release a lv 3 charge shot. Taunt hits right as the delayed explosion goes off.

[@VolumeZombie]

I sat down to watch five minutes of this and watched the whole thing. A thoughtful, insightful, and entertaining analysis! As a less-skilled player, I appreciate that DMC5 puts its tools a bit more on the surface than 4 did, to the point where I didn't even know inertia and reversals are missing! Breakdowns like these are a great invitation to the depth that the other games have to offer. Thanks for putting this all together!

[@MariusUrucu]

44:35 As redundant as Dreadnaught was in DMC4, that DT form/costume looked sick

[@platinumconquest2365]

Honestly, I think Dreadnaught looks cooler than Dante's actual DT. I wish they made Royal Guard's back + Style something else, and Dreadnaught was just Dante's DT design.

[@raghugba863]

Amazing video. Don't have much to say, even as mostly a casual player that enjoys trying my own combos in different games in the series, I agree with a lot of things that you said here. As I am mostly a Dante player, I greatly appreciate the insane amount of stuff that he can do in this game when compared to 3 and 4, but stuff like the gravity, slower animations, weird enemy step windows, and the overused slow motion instead of hit-stop on moves like perfect guard and real impact makes me want to play the others more, even if I wish I had his 5 arsenal

[@crazyman2188]

It's probably far to late but I noticed that the neo Balrog option from the trainer wasn't included here and for me having both move sets combined makes the weapon so much for fun. But anyways just stumbled across your videos and got to say this channel deserves more love. Keep up the good work friend!

[@mrluthfians01]

Nice Facing World bgm man

[@joogullae3456]

This is the greatest video on youtube.

[@silentsmokeNIN]

I will watch it tomorrow at work. Thank you for talking about DMC.

[@Fannl]

Great video! made me want to play DMC5 again xD

[@TheNikoBellic2008]

Really enjoyed this. For me this game, while being one of my favourites of all time, mostly suffers due to how long Capcom had been away from DMC to focus on Resident Evil. Don't get me wrong, the R.E Engine is awesome, but I think it is the root of some of the problems you mentioned like the less "responsive" animations/attacks, and the less interesting visual design. As someone who really likes the part of DMC, I miss the flashier outfits and dark fantasy atmosphere of the previous games. Great video.

[@topo161]

Always said the RE engine works fine for Resi Evil, but I don't think it fits that well with DMC in terms of its distinct stylish presentation, the visual/character designs or how it handles the gameplay changes in favor of realism. Not even mentioning the art direction where color palletes are just monotone and homogenized for the same purpose.

[@JenovaGirzz]

Woah, the camera being a problem in a DMC game? Craaaaaaazy Great retrospective btw!

[@tokikage0216]

Thank you for making this video, I watched it in its entirety. A high-level player who puts a lot of effort into the series, his feedback is more meaningful and convincing, at least to me.🎮

[@ShineOnArion]

looks like a hit! watching it now live

[@Ssparda-dmc]

SSS Video ! Honestly, i think it's one of the best analysis video of DMC5 gameplay And i understand the little grudge of god tier players for lacking some previous mechanics like the famous inertia of DMC4 For me the real disappointment for PC player is the missing Turbo without mods, really it's a shame and i just doesn't understand why it was not implemented via patches And i agree 1000% on the fuc*** camera lmao

[@AftermathRain]

Outstanding review. Not only you are an amazing player, but also a very talented commentator. It's so good to have someone who is ACTUALLY good at these games (one of the best in your case) talk about them. I can't wait for you to talk about other deep games and I hope that, one day, you give Resident Evil 6 a chance. I'll wait forever for that Spider-Man Web Of Shadows video if necessary, LOL! Again, great fricking video!

[@DestinySpider]

Idk what to exactly comment, but feel like I should write at least something considering all the hard work that went into this. The clip against the Antenora at 17:01 is mad nice looking. Not sure how you got the Calibur to send you away from the enemy like that exactly, but that part and baiting the jump attack with up jocky was really clean. And generally this was just a really nicely scripted and entertaining video. With criticisms layed out in a way where hopefully people will actually hear you out instead of instantly resorting to antagonism. Since you were also fair and pointed out a ton of positive qualities. 5 Dante's greatly expanded variety and more fleshed out weapon movesets really is a treat Anyway, happy to see this video doing good so far. Hope the views continue to flow in

[@marvinmetellus7919]

You can perform reversal with nero's ex-streak since the moves start once your release the button

[@JuliusCaesar103]

4 is the best for hardcore players, but personally I never was a fan of Dante's Devil Arms in that one, and the enemies felt like they were made for Nero, which makes Devil May Cry 5 the definitive experience for me, I enjoy every single weapon and it has my favorite iteration of Dante, Nero and Vergil, Vergil is probably the most broken character ever in games, love him so much. Great video

[@4minutesavedme]

Brilliant video, I've been waiting to hear your thoughts on the game. I'm only slightly above average at DMC so I'm not really knowledgeable enough to critique the gameplay in any meaningful way. That being said, the weird gravity and the removal of reversals is something even I noticed. The gravity makes the game feel really floaty and the lack of reversals just makes no sense at all. Not only do reversals look cool af, they're also really useful as evasive tools. I don't know if DMC6 is gonna be Itsuno's next game after DD2 but whenever it does come, I hope it's gonna have the depth of DMC5 with the overall game feel of DMC4.

[@warpstarrogue3554]

27:51 FYI, (unless you've already found this out) there actually is a way to cancel DTE as Nero in 5. Simply hold the left stick in any direction and pop DT, whether moving or during an attack, the explosion won't interrupt you.

[@MegaSolopolo]

I've been waiting

[@logicstone1661]

Thank you! This is why I like watching people review games that actually KNOW how to play the game. It's like watching IGN/Gamespot review fighting games over people that ACTUALLY play the games, and have a good understanding of the gameplay mechanics.

[@mastafran]

Fantastic Video! I've admired DMC from a distance and had some fun time with his guest appearance in SMT:Nocturne, but I've never been up to giving this series a try until I saw your video! I'd love to hear more of your insights on other games like the Ninja Gaiden 3d series, or currently Final Fantasy 16:

[@MechaMike]

Nice vid, felt like a pretty fair review of the gameplay, honestly I was expecting you to trash this game lmao. Also 12:00 glad it’s not just me, I swear when things get crazy the characters just turn invisible for a second or something, the visuals in this game could have been more readable and clear.

[@jerm5466]

What and excellent video about my favorite game of all time. DMC5 turned me from mostly a souls fan into a character action fiend

[@LtSprinkulz]

Holy hell your music taste is just... _chefs kiss_ Forgone Destruction and Anesthetized in the same video? Unheard of.

[@ChaserTech]

If there's one thing I make sure to focus on, it's the selection of music in my videos lmao.

[@LtSprinkulz]

@@ChaserTech it's SSS tier, man. 👍

[@rcs4938]

Just a thought I wanted to share, I always thought the DMC characters were designed like fighting characters. Like the developers made these characters, gave them moves you would see in a 2D fighting game, and instead made a 3D action game. If you consider fighting game styles and character terms, the characters make surprisingly more sense. Nero is a Grappler-like sword fighter character focusing on grab attacks with some extra fun tools in the form of Devil Breakers, built to be balanced enough to pick up for beginners but has extra mechanics for pro players. V is a Summoner/Zoner who relies on familiars to assist in offense, to have his familiars do most the work while he hangs back and attacks from a distance, or to deliver the killing blow in this case. Dante is the complicated All-Rounder with a lot of options, he has so many tools and options for everything that it makes him difficult to learn, but rewarding if mastered. And Vergil is the Overpowered DLC character that everyone is required to learn/use if they want to participate in high level play XD.

[@alen448]

Holy shit. When I saw that part about the camera going wild, I burst out laughing. It's a mystery how it hasn't ever happened to me

[@ChaserTech]

Yeah it's a common thing whenever I play. Modded or not, it always spazzes out lol.

[@ashemabahumat4173]

I feel like V needs a basic 2-3 hit ground and air combo, with his sidestep not being tied to Shadow. That way, he can function without them and feel more like a complete character with something to do. Maybe also give the last hit of his attacks unique properties... or his taunts. They can have unique properties to make him stand out and have something to do while he's just sitting there charging Shadow and Griffin

[@Jefstito]

Devil May Cry is the only franchise I genuinely fanboy over. I absolutely love everything about it. It's what actually turned me into a gamer. The adventures of wacky woohooo pizza man are just printed in my heart

[@starlord1521]

Veeery good video

[@DoritoGOD2811]

Oh hell yeah

[@dylanbroome7915]

I really wish that vergils multiple judgement cut was the same as 3 where you held it and then did multiple as its difficult to do in 5 and 4 with my fingers

[@BrilliantSunsGaming]

Fantastic breakdown man. Very fair comparison as well as a few opinion pieces thrown in to support your claims. :D Edit: I laughed my ass off when you were talking about the cameraman doing his own 'combos' with his camera LMFAO!

[@simonleech1109]

There is actually a method with Trick Down for Vergil of moving the analogue stick back and holding down circle and x to get the same function.

[@Jimboh1637]

Great job on the video. I loved DMC 5 but I feel like the game would have benefited having a full on character selection for all levels after you beat the game. I think the game would also benefit if enemies that function like 4's angelos, frost, abyss, and hell vanguard would make fights more intense(maybe I just like fighting them too much). As for V I just mod in a cane moveset for him(both enhance V mods) so feels more aggressive. I think reversals and inertia would benefit the more hardcore players(which I am not) and having free ride from 3 return for DMC 5's Nero, Dante, and Vergil would be cool(I like doing that in 3). I guess the art direction for 5 could have been better too, something felt lacking after mission 2. Must style mode would be nice too. I shouldn't have to mod in some of these features. I don't have the same camera issues as you do but as I said I probably don't push the characters to their limits as you do.

[@toowingless9473]

my biggest issue with DMC5 is that each character gets so little screen time. I wish after the first playthrough each mission can be tackled by each character like Vergil gets to do. If there's ever a navigation issue, just add some magic platforms or teleportation pads. Its criminal that dante cant fight half of this games bosses in the campaign

[@knight-_-meh]

v is a great intro character for new players. when you have mastered or good with v you move on to nero then to dante and vergil and so on.

[@charlieni645]

Can't believe this game is already 4 years old. I miss how hyped up I was after it was announced. It's a very fine action but yeah like you said it got issues. It reparated many issues 3 and 4 had while creating new issues of its own. My biggest pet peeve is how Showdown is performed by pressing melee+devil breaker at the same time instead of melee+devil bringer. This 1) makes no sense since the move is clearly enabled by devil bringer and 2) messes up my muscle memory and keybind. I'm really glad this game allows fully rebindable controller input unlike... any games from Platinum, but it might also be time to allow customizations on how certain moves are performed.

[@Shadow0Heart1]

I always felt that Proto Angelo was as it's name implied, A prototype. On the flipside, Cavalier Angelo is similar to that of Nelo Angelo. Prefected Versions.

[@drmalfunction1349]

I honestly really enjoy goliath as a boss, the fact that he used the destroyed environment around him to eat and then shoot out as projectiles was such a cool and creative idea to me, and he really gave me that "big behemoth we gotta hunt" vibe like monster hunter or even god of war

[@jjtheenton]

On the subject of V and mods, going back to his missions with Enhanced V blast of cool water to your face during a hot summer day. Basically every major flaw with his design is addressed.

[@CrimsonWolfStudios]

I've played quite a bit of DMC5 across multiple versions, and funnily enough I can't recall a single instance where I've ever seen the camera issue you show here. That's weird.

[@nearautomatons6987]

Finally someone who understands the true greatness and utility of Royal Revenge

[@ArthursLittleWorld]

There's like 100 videos on dmc5 or dmc franchise analysis, and like 2 that talk about gameplay mechanics from a perspective of pro-players, and this is a problem not only in English speaking segment, but as well as on other languages in youtube

[@littlelw319]

if there is DMC6(or main story continuation in different game) i just hope Nero moveset will be further expanded, more devil breaker move for each DB, fix wire-snatch and DB can work with Lock-on, freely switching DB on the fly and more special moves. he supposed to be the series protag after Dante now it's okay to give some over the top super move for him in the later series.

[@catsoup9870]

IT"s SHOWTIME

[@flowmotiiion9441]

Chasertech content ❤

[@NoireUwU]

I really like this kind of retrospective style of video but it feels kinda weird to hear critiques of the gameplay when it’s slightly modded. I know none of the mods actually necessarily change how the core gameplay is. But if you had to mod the game in anyway I feel like that creates a sort of bias on how good you think the gameplay is. I’m mainly talking about the mods that mess with animations not the turbo mode because that’s understandable.

[@ChaserTech]

I can understand what you meant tbh. But the reason why I enabled the mods to begin with is because of my experience with DMC3 and 4. Both of these games felt great to play out of the box so when I played DMC5 for roughly a month or two without any mods, I just couldn't enjoy it all that much. So after people started making mods to speed up the animations back to how they were in DMC3 and 4, it felt like normal. So it's not like I started playing DMC5 with mods from the beginning. I gave DMC5 a chance for awhile but I honestly didn't like how the game felt during that time, especially without Turbo Mode either.

[@InternetNinja100]

My main problems with dmc5 is the level design , you can't play the entire campaign with one character except Vergil and enemy design, but the level design is my biggest issue because entire game is giant corridor. I was expecting great level design from dmc1 and dmc3 or classic god of war games. But I still love this game and its one of my favorite games from last gen

[@irezumi725]

a real shame for the bubsy 3d tier camera good video kept us waiting huh

[@joogullae3456]

I love your videos and I love you

[@texasred8424]

1:04:31 my favorite part of the video

[@koheikyouji]

Has anyone ever told you you sound a little bit like Samuel L Jackson? >_> Cos its kinda badass.

[@roadkillwaffle9847]

Amazing video, Finally somebody puts into words the way I feel about V, really cool concept and awesome in theory, but just sluggish and unresponsive in practice, I'm surprised you didn't talk more about the lock-on and the enemy design, since IMO those are the worst aspects of the game. (also my god your camera is cursed as hell I've never seen anything like that)

[@ChaserTech]

Yeah I wanted to go over a lot more about the lock on but after getting into the 1 hour mark of the video, I wanted to end the thing already lol.

[@tomholt1080]

Thanks for making this. There aren’t many retrospectives made by high level players