Windows 11: Let's Be Honest, There Are Big Issues, Right?

[@OptimumSlinky]

Windows 11’s problems stem from the fact Microsoft has converted Windows from a desktop OS into a marketing and services delivery platform. The telemetry, the incessant reminders to use OneDrive or Office, the entire OS is designed to upsell you and part you from your money as opposed to enable you to get things done.

[@GigaChad_169]

Bingo…Windows 10 suffers from this paradigm shift also. I’d gladly pay retail for a decent OS and for them to remove the bloat and spyware.

[@fcukugimmeausername]

Time to move to Linux.

[@warmrollsforthetable]

I mean it's the same NT kernel tho

[@50PullUps]

Sure, but that is unrelated to crashes and software incompatibility.

[@UltraZelda64]

​@@GigaChad_169Why pay when you can get any one of dozens, if not hundreds of alternative operating systems, all filling your needs for free?

[@DavidJonSpem]

Windows Search getting even worse with each version since 8. You search for a file or program and it not even able to find it. Continues to search online opening up edge and bing.

[@The123tactics]

THIS!

[@JoRoBoYo]

The last good window search is windows xp

[@Aki_Lesbrinco]

Yes!!! It's so infuriating. I've actually done the search by copy/pasting the name from the file's actual details and it sometimes doesn't find it. What the Hell???

[@cacomeat7385]

meanwhile linux and even mac have INCREDIBLE search tools, both GUI and CLI

[@TerracideDK]

Use settings and disable it going online...it is not hard...

[@DrLilo]

Honestly, this video has kinda opened my eyes to the fact that most of the issues I have with my PC are just Windows 11's fault and not something I've done wrong with my hardware configuration...

[@grimdicer152]

Same here. I reset my PC around 3 times this year due to issues with Windows 11, that I wasn't getting with Windows 10. Glad to see that this video confirmed it.

[@cacomeat7385]

I tried troubleshooting an issue with a brand new PC and got frustrated when someone just told me to downgrade to 10. SURELY it was an issue with the games or how I set up the hardware. Nope, turns out it literally was just 11 being horse shit.

[@virtualpilgrim8645]

I felt the same way about you...

[@pdmerritt]

@@virtualpilgrim8645 lol

[@yewtewbstew547]

@@cacomeat7385 What sucks is they're gonna force us upgrade eventually, or else lose access to important security updates. I haven't decided yet if, when that day comes, I'll update or just go offline altogether. Most of my games are DRM free + singleplayer, so I do have the option to just pull the ethernet cord out lol. But yeah hopefully, by the time the update becomes mandatory, they've got their shit together. tbf though when it came to the mandatory 7 > 10 update, windows 10 was actually in pretty good shape by then imo. So _hopefully_ the same goes with windows 11.

[@MiniBeas]

There is no QA department for Windows. There has not been a dedicated QA department since 2015. This shift led to a reduction in traditional Quality Assurance (QA) roles, with developers assuming greater responsibility for testing their code, often utilizing virtual machines (VMs) and automated testing tools. The transition was part of a broader move towards DevOps practices, emphasizing continuous integration and delivery. However, this change raised concerns about the potential increase in software bugs due to the diminished emphasis on dedicated QA teams.

[@amerikaOnFire]

I says mostly the same. They literally do not employ QA and simply throw a feature over the wall for some teams to look at which are not connected to the dev process. Which is awful for quality.

[@nahuelcutrera]

there is this guy with a youtube channel, called bernacules nerdgasm that used to work at microsoft QA so years ago he made a video and he said this stuff will happend because they basically layed off the entire QA team including himself and replace it with virtual machine testing which will lead into problems to the end user for not actually testing with real hardware. Microsoft doesn't give a crap anymore.

[@laurentitolledo1838]

oh...m$ do have QA...but its now "Quality Adventure"

[@delgibbonsmusic]

I get memory reference errors when I switch off windows on my Intel laptop and amd desktop, not on my windows tablet. So insane.

[@Lord-Sméagol]

The FREE UPGRADE to Windows 10 was to recruit lots of labrats! Which is why when Windows Home users uninstall the bloat apps, they are reinstalled with the next update! M$ needs these unpain beta testers!

[@badpuppy3]

Satya Nadella needs to stop force feeding AI onto everybody, and realign Microsoft's focus onto their core product which has been neglected for years.

[@General_M]

But how can they get subscription and ad revenue from a well behaving OS that doesn’t spy on its users or require subscriptions to use certain features? Won’t you please think of the trillion dollar company and billionaire CEO?

[@henson2k]

it's not profitable

[@lx2222x]

I want AI but not this dogshit what they offer. I want something like in Notion with intuitive integration and UI and features that make me enjoy using it

[@apoclypse]

There is no money in that. Why would he do that. He only cares about how good MS looks for being "at the forefront" of AI, even if that means adding what amounts to spyware to you system. Windows Recall should tell you all you need to know about where MS' head is at these days in-terms of Windows.

[@Carrion2]

Microsoft doesn't care about it's customers. Listening to the customers isn't as profitable as listening to the share holders. I really feel like it's time for people to start moving away from Microsoft since it's obvious they're going to remain extremely hostile towards their user base

[@Catamount1412]

Windows 11 is what finally drove me to Linux full time. Yes, there's software I can't run on it. Yes, I have to jump to Windows occasionally for it. But for the 95% of things I can run, my games, enough image editing stuffs to get by, all the stuff I do on the web, Mint does this utterly phenomenal thing: it just presents my applications and then just... doesn't bother me. Linux does its absolute best to facilitate getting me up and running, and then just leaves me alone, and I didn't realize just how much I was going to end up loving it for that. Even with the occasional program needing a bit of extra setup, it's worth spending the 30 minutes to an hour occasionally for the hours I don't spend dealing with Windows, because it's the difference between sometimes needing to do some extra work for an OS that wants to be good to you, and fighting an OS that actively does everything it can to get in your way.

[@beebeedeluxe]

“and then just leaves me alone, and I didn't realize just how much I was going to end up loving it for that.” That part sounds like a fantasy world to me 😄 My windows 11 Pro seems to go out of its way to be high maintenance and constantly waste my time with jank and restarts. It’s comical that MS still forces so many required restarts for patches and its core file explorer can’t even retain prior opened tabs on restart. Completely laughable but then equally depressing.

[@Rasterizing]

Same, but I'm using Kubuntu (KDE Plasma)

[@CurtOntheRadio]

This is the way to go imo. One needn't have to do everything in Linux for it to be a viable opt-out for most/many tasks. People aren't changing because "I need XYZ app and doesn't work in Linux". But dual boot, and dump Win for the things you can do elsewhere.

[@AthanImmortal]

Same here, Mint was also my choice. I was fed up when back in June they started making OneDrive an Opt Out feature. I just thought it's never going to stop, the control of my own computer just slipping away more and more. Steam Deck was a big part of giving me confidence at how good proton was.I have switched my daily usage and gaming over to Linux now since July 2024, so 5 months at the time of writing this, and I'm not going back. I still have my windows 10 install as a dual boot for a couple of necessities like Photoshop, but it's living on a 512gb SSD and that's all that Windows has on my machine now. The other ~7TB of storage has been converted over for use with Linux. In the last couple of weeks I've finished Titanfall 2 (through EA App on Lutris), Plague Tale Innocence and Halo 1, 2, 3 and 4 from the Masterchief Collection. It's just doing everything I want and I've been gobsmacked at how easy things have been.

[@Catamount1412]

@@AthanImmortal the Steam Deck was a confidence booster for me, as well. There are things I wish worked, like the Affinity 2 suite, but it's not a huge list of things. Games work almost immediately. I bought Mechwarrior 5 Clans almost the day it came out and had no issues. I have my criticisms of Linux, both in its present state and its community and direction. It still acts like an enthusiast DIY OS rather than a polished pick-up-and-play-with product too much, and too much of development across Linux is geared towards the "BTW I use Arch" crowd rather than trying to push it more into a mainstream direction with modern UX sensibilities that it might see it pick up real market share from normal people and gain the level of resources it needs to get a Windows or MacOS level of refinement... But when considering the alternatives, MacOS' absolute Rube Goldberg setup and "Consumers don't know what they want - we tell them what they want" attitude, or Windows just trying to become a giant sales platform to push live services and collect data... Linux developers are at least trying to give back control and act on behalf of the user, and while not perfect, it's a better mindset and the end product reflects that. Linux has its pains, but they're so much smaller and I'm glad it's my OS 85% of the time.

[@RichardWebster85]

That crash on shutdown is having a wireless Xbox controller connected. It's ridiculous.

[@MightyZarquon]

Oh Sh!t, is THAT was it is? I've been having that issue ever since getting my new PC around a year ago, which has Windows 11 Pro. It has a 14700K. I'd noted, so far, that it only produces this error on shutdown after playing a game. At first it seemed to be after using the Xbox app to play Gamepass, but then it started doing it on some Steam games. I'd started getting concerned that it was a sign my 14700K was failing. I DO use an Xbox wireless gamepad for some games, like third person, and of course I use a Mouse and Keyboard for games like FPS. Damn, that must be it. I'd tried noticing if it was games that hit my CPU or GPU hard. It must be that wireless controller being connected. I'll pay attention to that, next time I see the error. Thanks for your post.

[@RichardWebster85]

@MightyZarquon yea try it with the controller off and not connected and see what happens. For me it seems like the controller is the issue. Or specifically, a problem with a MS game service that's running when you have a controller connected.

[@blackeaglepictures]

@@RichardWebster85 Even wired, and it also doesn't need to be connected at the time of shutdown, only to be connected at some point since last boot.

[@plume...]

Well I never! Is that what it is??! That has annoyed me in forever!

[@smash461986]

Is that with the Xbox wireless adapter too? Coz mine never crashes on shut down. Only COD has given me Direct X crashes recently.

[@Dhruv-qw7jf]

Microsoft fired most of their QA department back when the Windows Insider Program became a thing with the release of Windows 10. It was in all the big news outlets back in the day, I don't know how so many of big tech tubers have missed out on that.

[@9852323]

Yeah ever since 10 windows has been a joke. 8 only gets a bad rep because of the start menu which was truly its only issue. Other than that 8.1 was a great OS.

[@akikoooooooooooo]

@@9852323 and then you installed classic shell and all those issues went away

[@XeZrunner]

As soon as the Windows Insider Program became their primary source for testing main releases, any serious issues that would crop up would end up in the Feedback Hub not being looked at or being super low priority. I doubt they took the Feedback Hub as seriously as some other internal tooling with serious feedback. It is enough to look at GitHub and issues on as popular projects as Windows to see how noisy feedback from the entire public can get. There's a reason internal testing worked better.

[@Mario583a]

The thing about this is that there is a plethora of individual hardware out in the wild to test with, not to mention, mix and matching. Why waste billions on physical hardware when you can simply use virtual machines to test individual hardware specs?

[@michaeleber4752]

Just before that they had the Technical Beta Team. We would do the testing, bugs would be reported to QA, they would see if they could recreate the bug and if so determine who to pass the bug to. I left the team and it was not much longer after that where there were management shifts. Brad Silverburg left and that was the first step in the OS going downhill. I left after a bug I reported for 3-4 test releases was reported in the papers when the OS was released. They had the bug, they had the steps and they ignored fixing it...until the public started screaming about it.

[@DeSinc]

let's not forget the one where sometimes ctrl + C just will fail to copy to clipboard. if you try copy and paste before it's "finished copying" (???) then it will just fail out and the copy will not proceed, so you still have the old thing on your clipboard instead. this never happened before 8 or 10 from my memory, maybe 7? it was always a, if you copy this, it WILL be in the clipboard deal. then somewhere it changed to "sometimes the copy operation will fail silently in the background and you have no clue that it failed" causing you to paste your last thing instead of the one you actually just copied.

[@DeSinc]

or the fact that your start menu used to be infinitely arrangeable with those metro tiles but now it's just a single line of sequential apps that you can only rearrange left to right in rows, no more sliding something above something else without now shifting every other icon to the right one space and messing up every single line order of every other app to the right of it in the single row.

[@DeSinc]

oh and how about the one where you can no longer pick small sized task bar, only large is available now, so you can't have a slim taskbar anymore

[@DeSinc]

oh and how you have to tweak a registry tweak to get the actual right click menu to show up when you right click.

[@DeSinc]

what about the one where they changed tray icons so they always get added to the taskbar as hidden so you have to manually go into the actual settings page to uncheck 'hidden' on every single new app that gets added one by one as they install themselves? and there's no setting except for another registry tweak someone found to disable this behaviour and restore them to just adding to the bar as un-hidden like normal behaviour

[@DigitalMoonlight]

Failing to copy has been around since Vista, it’s just much more frequent on modern Windows because of all the background processes and the general decline in operating system quality. MacOS also now has this issue starting with Big Sur, iOS has this issue now since at least 12 and Android has had it since 2.x. The only consistent copy paste is in older OSes, *NIX and Haiku

[@sucramuk]

If we are moaning about Windows 11 issues we have: - The longstanding bug of the mouse cursor sometimes disappearing when it goes over an application like Excel or explorer which I've had over multiple versions of Windows - Windows randomly wakeing from sleep (and then digging through cryptic event viewer logs to decipher why it resumed or crashed) - Numerous I/O interrupt issues, sometimes it just freezes for a few seconds when I try to copy a file - Explorer not refreshing when making file changes e.g. delete/move/rename. (may be something to do with quick access/ network drives?) - The background in explorer becoming black behind random folders / text - And a deliberate change rather than a bug - When you click on your user icon in the start menu rather than letting you quickly switch to other user profiles, they changed it so it now shows the status of Microsoft subscription services. Thanks Microsoft because that’s what I want to do regularly /s

[@RedEverything]

I have tried 1,000 different solutions to fix Windows 11 from waking up randomly from sleep. Good to see other people have this issue.

[@AceStrife]

I/O and Explorer not refreshing have been a problem since 10, which I'm actively using (v2004).. so chalk up another few years of an issue never being fixed.

[@piedpiper1172]

I swear my htpc on windows 10 is possessed. Thing wakes it self up at random several times a week.

[@SuperTort0ise]

Sleep is broken on everything I've ever used, iOS, Android, win, Linux, even game consoles, it just never just works. And yet for some reason I still use it. Have you disabled everything , usb, wake timers, and "power button"(WoL)? (You'll have to leave one usb on, like your keyboard) this has worked for me, the "power button"(WoL) one in particular was doing it idk why because that doesn't happen on Linux and there's no WoL on my network.

[@edwardgonzalez2361]

Don´t forget we don´t have the sync option anymore and have no option but to work on one drive files in BROWSER for fk sake this is beyond me

[@buriedstpatrick2294]

The fact that a file browser of all things freezes at all in this day and age is just unforgivable. I'm dual booting Linux and it just doesn't happen there. The desktop environment I'm using takes about 300MB of my memory and THAT'S IT - and that's with a lot going on. But there's no crazy indexing processing running in the background I didn't ask for. No "misc system processes" that run at random intervals. We need more software and driver support on Linux, Windows is a sinking ship.

[@OutLanderUSN]

Right? My fans don't decide to randomly spool up while idling because some random process is starting and stopping in the background.

[@Interference22]

Windows 98: It (mostly) works Windows ME: It (mostly) doesn't work Windows XP: It's fixed Windows Vista: It's broken Windows 7: It's fixed Windows 8: It's broken Windows 10: It's fixed Windows 11: It's broken ...Repeat forever.

[@nimbydimby]

Correction: 95: It's broken 98 SE: It's fixed

[@mark-e3s]

Linux: fixed. :)

[@InternetsDown]

Windows NT4- it works Windows 2000 - it works

[@mark-e3s]

@@InternetsDown Better yet, GEOS (8-bit operating system) worked, and it was simple then. :)

[@Liquid2142]

More ture of a statement then you probably actually realize xD haha

[@dandavuk]

Let’s hope Valve finally release SteamOS in a good state. Competition is good.

[@General_M]

I want it too, but how much will NVIDIA, AMD, and Intel support it for drivers? How many studios will move away from DirectX, DXVK will only take us so far, and kernel level anti cheat is still an issue with Proton as well.

[@Valk-Kilmer]

@@General_M Its a Linux distro based on Arch so any fixes for Linux will be merged for SteamOS.

[@mbc07]

The cold and hard truth is that as long as anti-cheat solutions keep treating Linux as a second-class citizen, SteamOS won't mater at all, regardless of how good it turns out...

[@General_M]

@ yes I know and that doesn’t answer any of my concerns.

[@mondodimotori]

Let's hope I can do more than gaming on Linux based OS soon! Unfortunately wine and proton aren't very suited for production softwares, and that forces me to keep a Windows installation.

[@Carrion2]

I gave up on windows and went to pop_os and the difference is night and day. Linux isn't constantly nagging me about updates or trying to get me to spend more money. It just works. 99% of my games work and any of them that don't I've just stopped playing. My rtx 3070 has no issues. I genuinely think Linux is the future for x86 gaming. Valve is always ahead of the curve and I trust them more than any other company. They wouldn't be investing all of this time and money outside of windows if they didn't think the same.

[@sardonic_irony]

Pop OS! and Lutris/Steam just seem to work for me too. I'm still testing, but the installation on a 4-year-old laptop went swimmingly well and the OS just recognized the model of the laptop and everything works as intended. I'm trying the same with my desktop, but a PCIe sound card doesn't have the options I'm used to in Windows, so I'm hunting for a solution to that - but that's the only road-block. Love the modern Linux distros.

[@EbonySaints]

I'm a firm denier of The Year of The Linux Desktop™ as someone who has run it for close to two decades now, but dear God having had to use Windows for work, it's _sooo opaque._ Like, if you know *exactly* what registry edits you need to do and how to track down issues, you realize that 10-15% of the dev team were made of geniuses. But then you realize that the remaining 85-90% are either yes men, middle managers, and/or sociopaths. I frankly can't wait to get some additional storage and nuke my Win10 install from the bad times.

[@SahilP2648]

​@@EbonySaints next time use an AI model to rewrite your comments. You could have the IQ of Einstein but your writing skills are like a polished turd.

[@AndrewKeifer]

I switched to Pop! OS and used it with KDE for about 8 months back when Windows 11 was first announced. Like you, I was sacrificing something to switch to Linux: some of my gaming. Sure, I was also avoiding most of the negative things about Windows, but those things never _noticeably_ impacted my user experience. So it just felt like a sacrifice. As soon as I realized this, I switched back. I hope Linux will one day be able to give me the same gaming experience I can get on Windows. As soon as they do, I'll most likely leave Windows forever.

[@wisenber]

"Linux isn't constantly nagging me about updates or trying to get me to spend more money." Pop OS! isn't, not "Linux", and that's part of the Linux problem. Windows has a few supported versions, whereas Linux has countless distros making development unprofitable. One of Linux's greatest strengths is also its greatest weakness.

[@sizablekoala6879]

Between Windows 11 and the stutter problems with Unreal Engine 5, games are feeling worse from a technical perspective than a few years ago with previous iterations.

[@PronounsR4Pussys]

ITs like were back in Win Vista days again with DX 10 still being implemented.

[@itsprod.472]

Agreed

[@paulusapfel]

Yeah, and more and more games are coded with that stutter engine. Kinda annoying.

[@Anom-vd4kn]

Just finished Stalker 2 and I had to restart the game every hour because my fps went from 120+fps to 20 fps for no reason.

[@jensenraylight8011]

someone out there should create a mod of "windows 10: the last version of window edition" at this rate, all of those "security updates" won't make your pc more secure, it's more like a backdoor for windows to inject ads and farming data from users

[@Slytzel]

In the past I have measured the progress on the speeds of my new computers by clicking on the Windows explorer to see how fast it opens. With my Win7 PC, it was finally instant. After upgrading to a new PC with Win10 and now 11, the ecplorer opens way slower. That is a basic functionality. It is embarrassing.

[@beebeedeluxe]

Preach! It’s infuriating and embarrassing. AI and cloud and fancy buzzwords but hey let’s go backwards on basic functionality

[@specialfred453]

I haven't noticed. I switched to Linux when Recall was announced

[@9852323]

Well that was pretty recent...

[@asrr62]

its easy if you dont play online multiplayer games. but for some of us we lose access to our favorite games.

[@specialfred453]

@@asrr62 Hunt Showdown works just fine. So does Payday 3, Payday 2, Crime Boss: Rockay City, Rocket League, etc. If they need kernel level anticheat so badly that they're willing to block Linux with it, then I don't need to play it. My Steam library has over 500 games in it. I can find something else to play.

[@Morphishful]

@@asrr62 Depends on which ones. Blizzard games run fine (Overwatch, WoW, SC2, etc...) Valve games, of course, are fine (CS2, Dota2). If those were your main multiplayer games you could switch today and never notice a problem. OW2 runs better on Linux on my machine than on W11 anyway. But if you play LoL, Apex, Destiny2, etc.... Then yeah, you're going to be out of luck.

[@Hyydrotoo]

I'm happy for all of you that made the switched, but "switch to Linux" is just not a viable alternative for 90% percent of Windows users, especially gamers. Yes, there are lots of workarounds and settings you can tweak but an equal amount of "wtf"/nonsensical errors that you encounter just doing everyday things.

[@hunterap23]

The issue Rich was describing is that Windows will try to guess the contents of all folders in the folder you're entering into so it can generate appropriate thumbnails (even if you're on detail view). There's a registry setting for this under: [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Classes\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\Bags\AllFolders\Shell] "FolderType"="NotSpecified"

[@GreenStorm01]

Ok. But WHY does a consumer need to fix things like this? Just no.

[@hunterap23]

@GreenStorm01 Not saying I like that consumers need to fix Microsoft's bugs, just pointing out the root cause of that specific issue and how to fix it if Rich (or others) want to

[@niveketihw1897]

To clarify, would I need to create a new String Value called FolderType, and make its value NotSpecified ? Or something else?

[@hunterap23]

@@niveketihw1897 Yep you'd make a new key with a string value of "NotSpecified" without quotes

[@niveketihw1897]

@@hunterap23 Excellent, added to two machines, will reboot when I can and see if this addresses that laggy folder behavior. Cheers!

[@BreadBox42]

2:15 the idea that the Windows team even has QA testers is laughable. They literally just release things in rings, then wait for people to tell them what is broken. “Testing” as an employee discipline within Engineering at Microsoft was removed many years ago.

[@adam7802]

I know right?! I remember during a COVID lockdown, a windows update broke the built in VPN functionality which my company was relying on! I had to waste time showing people how to downgrade because the bug remained in for MONTHS!

[@NicholasStabile]

It also goes to show these guys have NOT been paying attention to news regarding Windows for the past decade or so. Microsoft fired most of their QA staff prior to the launch of Windows 10, and expected the "Customer Experience" programs and giving more work to the developers to do testing as substitutes for that to save some money. The result? An extremely buggy launch for Windows 10, plagued with unwanted upgrade processes when users woke up the next day, to boot loops and failed upgrade installations, and even nonstop BSODs because god forbid you bought and used the wrong SSD.

[@Dhruv-qw7jf]

Microsoft fired most of their QA department back when the Windows Insider Program became a thing with the release of Windows 10. It was in all the big news outlets back in the day, I don't know how so many of big tech tubers have missed out on that.

[@pixels_per_inch]

I remember upgrading to Windows 10 and my laptop would get bluescreens almost every day. It eventually got less frequent but it took about 3 years before it was as stable as Windows 8.1

[@Rei-internet-fox]

And they wonder why a lot of us still on Windows 10 aren't just jumping on this "free upgrade" to Windows 11 even if our PCs pass the hardware requirements.

[@yarost12]

Once W12 is out you'll be singing the same songs about W11, you people do this shit every time a new Windows is out. How's your W7 holdout going?

[@PronounsR4Pussys]

Nobody wants a free downgrade.

[@anthonyrizzo9043]

​@yarost12 i was agreeing with this, until i encountered all the windows 11 errors, windows 11 is honestly an abomination right now, i have been thinking of going back to 10 and up until recently i almost always supported a new windows.

[@malcaniscsm5184]

@@anthonyrizzo9043 W10 will only be viable for another few months. After that it should only be run in a VM protected from the internet. Happily, you can easily do this in Linux!

[@thetechrealist]

@@yarost12Some people are young & won’t stand for Microsoft’s shitty OS, we want change

[@StraightcheD]

8:40 I too hate how explorer locks up and waits for all drives to get ready.

[@bobthemagicmoose]

I have a smb share on the same metal as my windows VM... it straight up won't open Explorer because of some status thing.

[@Yinco1]

@@bobthemagicmoose Do you clear explorer history?

[@SepticFuddy]

It's completely ridiculous and infuriating

[@gazac48]

What locks up, I don't get any

[@CMDRSweeper]

"Problems with testing." Actually the problem is... They DON'T DO any testing, a lot of companies do not do ANY testing, it is viewed as an expense. "Test it on the consumer, they will be nice and wait for us to fix it" is the new attitude.

[@RomanHaussener]

Banana principle 😏

[@BP-Rules]

As usual, it all boils down to definition: Define Windows 11 as a computer OS and it’s terrible. Define it as a spyware and it’s stellar.

[@RC-pj1pr]

Things like this have pushed me to give up on PC gaming. I also work in IT, and the last thing I want to do at night is troubleshoot my own system after doing it all day (plus I get paid nothing for my own troubleshooting!). I never thought I’d think like that before I started working in the industry, but soon after starting I barely used my PC in my free time. I love my job, but also like to switch off at 5pm. These days I have more fun with consoles and collecting physical games.

[@BasePuma4007]

The Series X and PS5 are great consoles, hardware wise. They're fast, well made, and have a (relatively) small form factor compared to a PC tower. The suite of games on them is extremely disappointing and limited, but I think they are really good consoles. I've got a PC now but the Series X was a great system for me in 2020 when I couldn't afford a PC. Having a simple, efficient, and reliable system is nice. I still have my Series X, and it will serve as my living room blu-ray player until it dies. I may still play the occasional game on it if I have someone over.

[@temiasmercurial593]

That, and particularly from a AAA game perspective, there are virtually no ports to pc that perform WELL for the hardware they're on. There are still a wealth of games that simply won't or can't be ported to console, like certain game designs and/or control schemes just don't translate to console well enough to be worth playing, let alone developing. Also plenty of indie titles and lower budget ones. But anything within the space of AAA games is just going to perform far better for console and be more stable, because the gaming market is mostly for consoles in that regard, and they genuinely couldn't care beyond the point of a pc port simply existing. Proper optimization for pc? Anti-cheat that works? Botting? Well, you won't have to deal with that on console (at least not in remotely the same degree).

[@Traumatree]

Join the club OP. I am in IT since early 90s and I think exactly like you! I use Windows and Linux as my daily drivers, but I am seriously considering going to MacOs since their Mac Mini M4 launch is showing a 'tour de force' of what a tiny machine can produce at very low wattage and space.

[@khhnator]

give Linux a try if you are into single player games. everything without a anti cheat is working in Linux right now. and even some anti-cheats like EAC do work in linux. is literally only some of the competitive games that don't then pick a long term release distro like Kubuntu or Mint, if you try and everything works(and most likely it will) then you set. then you don't actually need to do anything on that machine for a long time.

[@Zerobob26]

Spot on. As a software engineer, nothing tempts me to sit at a desk gaming on PC after work. If I do game, I much prefer to sit on my sofa, switch on the Series X, and within 30 seconds I'm gaming on my OLED with no issues.

[@jpcarsmedia]

Love how when i play a game in HDR, then exit, my screen is dimmer. I then have to toggle HDR off and back on. Why is HDR so hard to figure out?..

[@fcukugimmeausername]

Duh, because it's High Dynamic Range, not Sober Dynamic Range.

[@yourlocalhuman3526]

I only went to Windows 11 for the HDR calibration app

[@GamePat96]

I had that happen to me while playing Minecraft (Java), the problem was Fullscreen mode, with a borderless window mod it works fine ever since

[@deanchur]

@@fcukugimmeausername Gee I feel like a goof; I always thought SDR meant Standard Dynamic Range.

[@thejackimonster9689]

HDR is in the works on Linux for years now, probably getting usable on desktop next year. The problem with it is that you need to compose all SDR content together with HDR content if necessary. For this you basically need to guess a transform function or get the user to manually configure that for each application. It would be way easier to implement if it only activated for fullscreen HDR content and automatically disabled afterwards.

[@bassemmohsen8405]

Laptops also have major issue with randomly failing to sleep and laptops keep running in backpacks like a furnace. This hasn’t been resolved for years now. A basic simple S3 suspend to ram function was replaced by smart connected sleep, but no one asked Microsoft for that feature and no way to opt out and properly suspend to ram like the old days. This also affects handheld gaming PCs

[@ktvx.94]

Ah yes my Legion Go has more trouble sleeping than I do. I just never put it to sleep if it's going to the case, just shut it down.

[@dcf8978]

My 2021 Zephyrus G14 has had terrible issues with this in both 10 and 11. It works finr on Ubuntu. The issue is bad enough that it has gotten so hot the LCD is permanently damaged. The only solution I have found in Windows is to set it to hibernate after 8 minutes. This works but I suspect it is hard on my SSD and is generally just stupid. Why can't it "just work"?

[@SahilP2648]

You can hibernate (by enabling that option) but that adds more issues. If hibernate interferes with windows update, you better hope you have your daily backups at hand.

[@bassemmohsen8405]

​@@dcf8978 My colleague's Zephyrus G14 2023 have the same sleep issue. My Zephyrus G16 2024 have also the same sleep issue. :/ Lenovo Legion Go also had similar issue. If Microsoft offers a way to turn off the smart sleep and suspend to RAM like old S3. I don't want my apps to keep running in background to receive notifications and updates. A computer is neither a phone nor a tablet. why force everyone to do that ?!

[@lamikal2515]

@@bassemmohsen8405 "A computer is neither a phone nor a tablet. why force everyone to do that ?!" Because sadly, on that front, Apple and Microsoft are alike : they know better than you how you should use your stuff and thay'll make sure you know it. On another note, maybe I'm missing something, but I do not see the point of Sleep state nowadays. As long as the OS is not installed on spinning rust, a cold boot is still VERY fast (assuming you don't have 10 gazillion malwares starting at logon, (wich, sure, for a lot of people, is entirely possible). Obviously, Hibernation with "network on" cause wayyyy bigger issues than the ones it solves...the few times it works... The classic Hibernation, with no network BS seems the best solution, as no matter what, WU will find a way to F you up anyway.

[@thedude8128]

Simple fix for the Ubisoft issue Don't buy Ubisoft games.

[@reaIixx]

✨️piracy✨️

[@hahasamian8010]

Sounds comfy

[@CBadger]

Instructions unclear. Bought all Ubisoft games. Now I have every quadruple-A games ever made.

[@Traumatree]

Yup! Anything Ubisoft gets his hands on becomes a mess of a game (HOMM comes to mind here).

[@two_motion]

It's funny how Ubisoft games no longer work on Windows or Linux anymore (for different reasons, obviously).

[@TechRyze]

Glad I don't bother with Windows 11, and never want to unless I'm forced. Once I'm forced, then Linux & MacOS will become primary OSs. What a mess, Microsoft.

[@RancorSnp]

@@TechRyze I am not switching to 11 no matter how forced I am tbh

[@SahilP2648]

I switched to MacOS for daily use, never been happier

[@hyperturbotechnomike]

I'm a bit in trouble, because the applications i need for my engineering work are almost all exclusive to Windows. Some are macOS, but i don't like the hardware. I have a 19" stacked workstation and not a small box with soldered on miniature storage and not enough beef for running a multi GPU Hypervisor.

[@davidareeves]

PR dept of m$, "you will comply" ME: Get away from me you Bit.........

[@thejackimonster9689]

Well, especially for gaming it's not really like MacOS would be a reasonable choice. Except you want to loose access to 80% of your games library.

[@SuperFriendBFG]

Yep, I'm glad I'm still on Windows 10. These kinds of issues in an OS are unacceptable, and that's ignoring Microsoft's obvious attempts to shove ads in everyone's face, or data mine the shit out of us.

[@Carrion2]

Come to linux. We've got plenty of room for everyone

[@wjckc79]

@@Carrion2 And options. If one distro doesn't work for you, there is always another. When that doesn't work for you, there is always another. Six-months later when that one program you need won't run, there is always another.

[@CD-vb9fi]

@@Carrion2 It's getting closer. Once I can get more than 75% of my games playble in Linux I will likely start making that leap. Until then... I still use Winders 10 and 7. I am definitely looking forward to Linux finally catching up to modern gaming systems. And sure... I know it's not entirely their fault as the mfg's don't product reliable drivers but a large portion of the linux echosphere is fully of toxic neckbeards too.

[@GoldFus1on]

oh man I almost switched to wins 11, glad I didn't

[@ChiekoGamers]

and plenty of room to fix compatibility issues ​@@Carrion2

[@xyzero1682]

The change from "My Computer" to "This PC" speaks volumes.

[@Mario583a]

Library / Schools / Businesses: This is not your PC, this is THIS PC I mean ours. Consumers with multiple users set up: Dad, is this My Computer or This PC? Dad: Well, it is actually My Computer since I bought it; You are just another user of This PC.

[@Insill]

Switching to Linux has been the best decisions I have ever made.

[@Trikenut012]

Literally just made the switch to Mint cinnamon today, I'm hoping, was a lil disappointed when I found a bunch of games don't work, but I think just need proton or whatever

[@NameUserOf]

In Steam there's a per game option to enable proton, current stable is version 9. If you have non Steam games use Lutris it setups everything for you.

[@Vhalikuporamee447]

​@@Trikenut012I use Bazzite. Proton works great

[@ThePlayerOfGames]

​@@Trikenut012tag me if you need more support on that front

[@angulion]

​@@Trikenut012install steam, Lutris and perhaps proton-ge...

[@kodemasterx]

I've been on Linux for the last 6 months and honestly, I do not miss windows at all, hopefully SteamOS brings all the features I'm missing from Windows such as a proper HDR implementation as Valve did on the Steam Deck OLED, other than that I'm good.

[@cacomeat7385]

I am mostly all linux at this point, i have a second drive with w10 that kinda just exists whenever i want to play certain unsupported games with my significant other

[@paulsmith8289]

About 20 years exclusive on Linux for me... Nowadays, Steam serves me well for all my games. I don't really go for AAA games and indie and AA games are generally better to play anyway.

[@Lockwood360]

@@paulsmith8289 Shit i just switched and even AAA games are better.

[@kodemasterx]

@@cacomeat7385 Yeah I have an SSD with Win11 for the just in cases lol, all the games that I've played this year all worked out of the box on Ubuntu, in fact my friend has better hardware than I do and according to him Black Myth was stuttering on his 4090 but it was on my 3080ti, sure I did lower some of the most demanding features but I had no stuttering , and framerate was great.

[@Ideasquevalelapenadifundir]

HDR already works on windows, which distro are you using??

[@danfg7215]

I switched to Linux, it's not for everyone, but suits me just fine. Even for gaming.

[@brent.vowles]

If I was just gaining I would have switched years ago

[@mungojerrie86]

I tried Linux Mint a couple of months ago - with absolutely ZERO prior experience. Frankly was shocked how intuitive and most importantly non-combative it felt. Didn't have to use the terminal once.

[@brent.vowles]

@@mungojerrie86 I used to work at a web host and learned Linux on the job. I was comfortable with the command line but found the GUI a bit lacking. Since then it's improved so much, it's better than Windows. That's all the main distros too, Ubuntu, Manjaro, Arch and Mint I've tried. I have a HTPC that runs bazzite.

[@EbonySaints]

​@@mungojerrie86As someone who has used the terminal and Linux for a long time, I would suggest taking the time and getting comfortable with some basic commands if nothing else. You'd be surprised at what you can do and how fast you can get it done. And, God forbid, if/when something does break, being familiar with how to edit files in the terminal, how to connect to the network, how to download, or just how to navigate, will save you a lot of time and frustration later on. Because while Linux can break, since it's a community of people who do leg work, 90% of the trivial problems have a easily available solution. Plus, you can use fortune >> cowsay, neofetch (or whatever, if anything, replaced it) and any number of Matrix ripoff commands and be *Hackerman!* Just don't get into tiling window managers and put on programming socks. That's too much.

[@khhnator]

i been on linux for one year now, and I'm surprised how well things work. specially games... and it actually has gotten better during last year, i literally can't remember when i had a game that didn't worked from the box in the last 6 months

[@BenHeckHacks]

3:47 Been noticing this "slow folder" thing a lot recently (Windows 10 though) It's probably scanning for bad stuff, or sending data to the CIA. Search in general has NEVER improved in Windows.

[@PACKTdotSPACE]

It's probably indexing related

[@Kougeru]

​@@PACKTdotSPACE no. I disabled that

[@jacke6579]

At my workplace we have this exact issue with Windows 11 (half the team still have Windows 10 where this issue doesn't appear). It's specifically for "synced" cloud folders (OneDrive or SharePoint) that have the blue cloud icon next to them in Explorer. Navigating through each folder takes quite literally 1-2 seconds each, but the tree view on the left hand side is instant to load, so Microsoft have clearly done something to destroy performance.

[@blaketindle4703]

We all want Windows XP back.

[@pootcake]

peak windows.

[@CoolDudeClem]

I have Windows XP in a virtual machine for apps and games that Windows 10 just REFUSES to run.

[@henson2k]

Yes but it should support latest drivers/technologies.

[@RafiYagami]

Windows 7 was better tho

[@lx2222x]

No.

[@baroncalamityplus]

Official modern Steam OS for desktop cannot come soon enough. (Bazzite is close)

[@AQDuck]

Don't wait, get Endeavour and you'll be MUCH better off than SteamOS on desktop. SteamOS is NOT a desktop distro and if you are going for it, you'll just end up back on Windows within a month.

[@eagle_rb_mmoomin_418]

@@AQDuck Except that an immutable distro like say Bazzite makes more sense for a noob user. Much less chance of breaking everything and ending up in a mess. SteamOS being immutable is a positive for someone that has no clue how Linux works.

[@baroncalamityplus]

@@eagle_rb_mmoomin_418 I tried Bazzite and can't get sound to work over HDMI. Hoping that an official Steam OS release would help.

[@FafthriechRalofson]

I'm liking bazzite. I'm using it on my htpc with game mode as well as gnome desktop version.

[@AQDuck]

@@eagle_rb_mmoomin_418 Actually _bigger_ chance of breaking it if you do anything at all on a system level or installing a package outside of Flatpak. There are immutable distros that are designed for desktop use that have thought of that. SteamOS, Bazzite, etc. are _not._

[@lamikal2515]

8:25 : Yes, YES ! Finally, someone is talking about that ! It grounded my gear every time it happened ! Why does File Explorer needs to wake up every drive connected to my PC before letting me access a folder wich is not on any of those fekkin drives ? It was grinding those gears so much that it was one of the main reason I dumped all those drives into a homemade NAS and called it a day. It's not a W11 problem, I'm on 10.

[@SepticFuddy]

I once had a secondary HDD dying on 10 and THE ENTIRE MACHINE was reduced to a crawl even while I was doing nothing to access that drive. Pure insanity

[@TheHighborn]

0:30 and nothing of value was lost

[@soundspark]

So you are against Stop Kiling Games?

[@GoodlyPenguin]

​@@soundspark I'd rather live in a world with modern Ubishit games being long gone

[@soundspark]

@GoodlyPenguin In that case I hope you aren't constantly bleating about your "free speech" rights being violated.

[@LeoDavidson]

Microsoft still have QA? News to me.

[@dreamcazman]

I concur with John's sentiments regarding HDD's. I repair PC's and occasionally involves trying to remove data from old HDD's. If I attach a drive to my caddy that's having issues, it will completely lock the whole machine until I either disconnect the caddy or turn it off. Unfortunately the 'problem' is not software related but at the underlying storage level. The computer has to wait until the drive has either spun up or timed out.

[@floppyD]

It is a software problem the moment I right click something on desktop, that has absolutely nothing to do with another drive, and the system locks up until it spins up. Also I have NEVER seen this happening on a Linux install.

[@angulion]

It is most definitely a software problem.

[@GigaChad_169]

My gut said not to upgrade to Windows 11 from 10. Glad I trusted my gut…

[@virtualpilgrim8645]

I felt the same way about you too...

[@devilmikey00]

Pretty much every crappy thing in windows 11 has been faithfully back dated into Windows 11 (except maybe co-pilot?) and support for it dies next year leaving your device vulnerable to everything going forward. So, you aren't really saving yourself from anything staying on 10.

[@whitecloak9724]

Love the Zenigata pfp

[@kendalljenkins9938]

I've used Linux Mint for a decade, and I do think more users will switch to Linux, but I think a massive number of people will buy a new Macbook instead of use Windows11. I've gotten most of my family using Linux, including grandparents, mainly because they don't do anything that would require a Windows OS. Most people only use a computer to use the internet, and Microsoft has made that simple process a nightmare.

[@thejackimonster9689]

Macbooks don't offer you gaming though. Would be a very stupid choice over Linux that gives you +80% compatibility with Windows games right away.

[@OutLanderUSN]

@@thejackimonster9689 If you don't game and instead use the internet and do photo and video editing, then Mac is the way to go. The vast majority of people who use PC's don't use it for gaming.

[@thejackimonster9689]

@@OutLanderUSN But which person is watching a video of people complaining about gaming issues on Windows and decides to switch towards MacOS where gaming is a massively bigger shit show than on Windows 11? It's a complete non-solution for the main audience here. Who cares that it might work for people that don't play games? Most of the people who don't do that would be fine with a cheaper Chromebook or only a smartphone/tablet anyway. Most people are certainly not content creators and even then, many of them can do that via a tablet or phone these days.

[@OutLanderUSN]

@@thejackimonster9689 Which gamers are actively switching to MacOS? They're probably the only group that actively researches hardware and software and go out of their way to determine the best move, and none of them are switching to Mac, as we all know that Mac is in a much worse spot for gaming than anything else. The post you responded to initially didn't even bring up gaming as a reason for switching; YOU made it about gaming when it wasn't about that in the first place. And the video we're talking under doesn't have anything directly to do with gaming either, but rather issues that affect *EVERY* Windows user, including content creators and internet surfers. Who are more likely to switch to Mac because apart from Windows, it's what they know as relatively decent.

[@TravisDacey]

I've been getting really fed up with Microsoft, I quit xbox entirely and I'm so close to switching to Linux and never going back

[@alexanderjones3830]

Do it - Sent from my Linux

[@JamaicaWhiteMan]

Switch, you'll be glad you did. I've been using Mint for six years and love it.

[@theylienn]

I switched over to a fork of arch a few months ago, it's been a good experience! Highly recommend at least trying a distro, you might be surprised how many just work from the start

[@deanchur]

If you're still hesitant then buy an external drive and run Linux from that to see how you go before you fully commit.

[@beebeedeluxe]

My XSX has been collecting dust since launch. I hate the clunky UI experience and I’m still bitter over how the hdmi-hec enabled on XSX screwed up all of my other hdmi-hec devices in my AVR setup. XSX was the only one that broke it. Not a cable or splitter issue. Had to reconnect and restart all other hdmi devices on the chain and haven’t had a single issue since then My trust in MS software and basic functionality is pretty low. Win7 and Xbox 360 maybe was the pinnacle

[@Oddweevil317]

Between advertisements, OneDrive enabling itself and relocating my files, restarting sound drivers, taking forever to start in safe mode, search finding anything but what I’m looking for, taskbar icons disappearing, HDR issues, the file issues that were referenced in this video.. I’m just gonna stop there I just want anything but windows at this point. I have a high end system and it’s dedicated to gaming and occasional web browsing. SteamOS is going to be perfect when it’s ready. I don’t need all the bloat that comes with windows.. and if I do want bloat I can install that myself

[@AQDuck]

SteamOS is NOT a desktop distro and if you are going for it, you'll just end up back on Windows within a month. EndeavourOS is based on Arch, _actually up-to-date,_ and not a locked down system. It's meant for desktop use and will give you BETTER gaming performance.

[@kenshii9d147]

​@@AQDuckendeavouros have good compatibility?

[@TodHunterGD]

​@@AQDuckAye, I switched to Endeavour OS about 6months ago. Once I found all the right software that was apples to apples on what I used in Win 10, everything else has been a breeze. About the only minor complaints is the pita to setup auto-mount drives on boot, discord screen sharing and wine. Like anything Linux, it's a learning curve but once you get setup it's simple and effective. I still have dual boot with Windows 10 but I've probably used it twice tops.

[@AQDuck]

@@TodHunterGD KDE's partition manager works great for auto mounting drives, never had to use terminal for it. And screen sharing now works _mostly_ flawlessly with audio in Discord Canary (probably next Discord stable update)

[@AQDuck]

@@kenshii9d147 Way better than SteamOS since it's _basically_ Arch with some extra GUI tools and the hard part already set up. It gets updates when Arch gets them and not a year later like Steam deck.

[@HazyJ28]

8:55 Rich's problem is because the media player is indexing ALL of your storage media, regardless of internal or external com ports. That way, your library will be fully synced when the program is opened. Essentially, it's just looking for new media files that it doesn't already have a directory link to.

[@RTomassi]

Windows has adopted the "move fast and break things" method.

[@HeavyMetalfps]

I'm gonna be incredibly frank, this might be the final straw that gets people to abandon Microsoft, i swapped to Linux Mint and Nobara and honestly had a great experience so far, soon the last Windows PC will have left my household, and like half a decade ago, i thought this would never become a reality, but here we are If you don't use Adobe software, and don't play games with intrusive anticheat, you'll likely be completely fine tbh

[@Lockwood360]

Switched to Linux a few weeks ago (Nobara) no regrets.. Games even play better. For AMD systems its prime. Stalker 2 and SH2 both much better experiences. Less stutter by a mile.

[@JamaicaWhiteMan]

I switched six years ago to Mint and have never regretted it. I just watch some of these Windows videos sometimes for a laugh.

[@tylernol1566]

Nobara is great! for those reading, it's basically Fedora with some game-ready support apps/drivers installed, and I think steam out of the box. I highly back-up recommend Nobara too.

[@Taldirok]

For stutters, maybe, for overall performance, Linux and even its performance/gaming focused distros are still way behind, up to 50% slower in the majority of cases compared to W10, so if you have expensive hardware, like a 4070 and up, just use W10, you're wasting performance potential, with that said, everything else is better on Linux, tough choice.

[@Lockwood360]

@Taldirok not true with really any of the AAA games I play. 50% is a huge difference. If we're talking nvidea yes it's still behind. AMD hardware excells on Linux. I'm running a 7800x3d and a 7900xt. No games I have that perform worse. I was on windows 10/11 for years. I know how my games performed. I had no issues with windows but I was pleasantly surprised with Nobara. I encourage you to look at some Nobara vs windows benchmarks using an AMD card. Typicaly ahead with better 1% lows

[@Lockwood360]

@@Taldirok kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4m6YWN9drF_rqssi=lzuLwcgNJ2zIk_Y7

[@SpookySkeletonGang]

SteamOS is currently the only sign of a major company supporting a push for Linux into gaming. If Valve can start gaining traction with steamOS in OEM device (laptops, desktops, handhelds, etc), then we might actually be in for a good time. Here's hoping!

[@GoodGuyGaurav]

I recently went back to Windows 10 and debloated it from day 1. Never been happier. Everything works and is snappy.

[@DeepRestMan]

my ~7 year old pc" i5 7400 gtx 1060 3gb w10" is just so much better than my 11th gen i7 11700k with a 3050 with w11 on it..sure a few of the new games i have do run a touch smoother"they should" but it's not worth all the accompanied headache. i only upgraded for bg3, but a patch put my ol boi back in the game very playable in the 3rd act.

[@swiftypopty1102]

I also extreme debloat my Win11 24H2 and it works wonder at the cost of compatibility. Able to achieve around 900MB 54process in idle. UWP apps doesn't work but I don't use them so it's aight.

[@khhnator]

at this point you might as well just switch to Linux. it takes less effort

[@swiftypopty1102]

@@khhnator I do, I tried Nobara and CachyOS and both require quite a lot of effort for me especially installing non-steam games, games that use kernel anti cheat doesn't work in Linux. My laptop also run around 15c hotter and what more concerning is the CPU stayed at 90c during heavy load, while on Windows it usually around 70c. I also noticed both distro or I guess Linux overall doesn't work great with hybrid GPU setup(black screen watching Yt videos in Fullscreen, also there's blackscreen that keep happening after I m using these distros for a while)

[@swiftypopty1102]

Also there seems to be an issue which when you play the game for over a while there seems to be a stuttery mess happening every time I move my mouse. After several days of trying to find the solution, it seems like it related to steam overlay even with it's disabled in settings can cause some kind of overload in the background during games, it's a known bug, been a month or two.. Do you think Linux is worth it to use with all the issue that's going on?

[@timaaaahhhh]

I really long for the day where Valve can get Steam OS working on ALL platforms, namely systems with Nvidia GPUs. Nobody playing games on a PC should have to deal with Windows ever again.

[@khhnator]

nvidia GPUs DO work on linux... what you talking about?

[@thejackimonster9689]

@@khhnator SteamOS does not ship Nvidia's proprietary drivers though and I imagine Valve won't ship them with a generic ISO because they conflict with Mesa drivers on Arch. So the obvious thing to do for them is implementing an open-source driver for modern Nvidia GPUs in Mesa that might not be fully comparable feature-wise in productivity tasks but performs even in gaming. Then they can only ship Mesa drivers out of the box and 90% of all users with Nvidia GPUs won't ever need to switch drivers or deal with separate packages on SteamOS. It's exactly what we currently see with the development of the NVK driver in Mesa and it will make SteamOS having one of the best out of the box experiences for gaming on pretty much any desktop PC. No hassle with configuration essentially.

[@khhnator]

@@thejackimonster9689 neither does windows... you just download them from nvidia site. is something everyone does

[@timaaaahhhh]

@@thejackimonster9689 Lol thank you for explaining that better than I could.

[@CouchCit]

Just thinking about this is making my blood pressure go up.

[@RuiNobrega]

Linux is a good alternative, thanks to Valve.

[@cacomeat7385]

for non-competitive gaming it absolutely is. For people who regularly play competitive shooters (and who the fuck am I to judge what people do with their time), it's still a non-option.

[@notjustforhackers4252]

@@cacomeat7385 There a plenty of competitive shooters that work just fine.

[@user-dz3ph7dl4m]

@@cacomeat7385 yes on linux for shooters (competitve & arcadey) you are mostly confined to CS2 (native linux), The Finals, Overwatch 2, Hunt Showdown, Xdefiant, Farlight84, Battlebit Remastered, Halo Infinite, Star Wars Battlefront 2 (2017), Marvel Rivals, the quakes/Dooms etc. So it's not like there are 'no options''', but yes much limited for choice.

[@griffin1366]

I can only play 1 of my games, and it stutters / has issues because NVIDIA. My programs / software do not work on Linux.

[@thejackimonster9689]

@@cacomeat7385 Looks like the competitive gamers need to run Windows 11 after October 2025 then... unless the competitive games will crash there too for some unknown reason like the Ubisoft launcher does. Who knows.

[@Kiyuja]

Win11 uses Javascript for its UI. If you are using web technology to power parts of your OS you are already taking the L at that point

[@a5cent]

Gonna need proof for that. I'm calling BS.

[@dial2616]

To be fair, both MacOS and GNOME use Javascript and WebViews to render basic system components too. It's not so much the web technology that's the problem, but rather the willingness to use it to show you ads and sponsored content.

[@UncleJemima]

web technology has powered OSes for as long as it has existed and is not inherently problematic. the most important factors are whether the tool is able to adequately meet a need, and whether it's a "user need" or a "corporate need"

[@SahilP2648]

​@@dial2616 what MacOS UIs are rendered in JS lmao? I call major BS on this. Microsoft has several telltales that this might be happening. Also haven't seen any evidence on Gnome and other desktop managers.

[@knufyeinundzwanzig2004]

@@UncleJemima yes it is, because it's a waste of resources to interpret js code

[@mastersmurfify]

Now you understand why people who could easily game on pc will stick to console. When I come home from work I just want to play, not fight with my machine and hope I am getting the performance I paid for

[@deanchur]

lol sounds like a guy weighing up getting married and coming home to a nagging wife vs just staying single.

[@SahilP2648]

​@@deanchur if everyone started single you wouldn't have Dev's that make games or deliverymen etc. that said a lot of places need to start reducing population slowly

[@bambooex]

I don't understand these comments. The majority of windows users do not need to fight their computer. You people make it sound like win11 is unusable. It might be bad, but its usable.

[@SeanScorpion]

The only reason people use Windows is because they have a government mandated monopoly. They’ve had this for thirty years and it shows no signs of relenting. They don’t seem to have competent employees anymore, they add worthless features and remove useful ones, and they force damaging updates on you if you want to use new software. I switched to Ubuntu last year and despite the many drawbacks I’m not looking back.

[@BoraHorzaGobuchul]

The "let's spin up all removable drives, and read all network shares before you may continue" thing is truly a killer. It's been there since forever and looks like it will stay that way

[@kloroformd]

When Microsoft bought Bethesda, they took both QA departments and combined them. These massive companies brought these hugely important departments together, bringing the total head-count to 0. Nah I'm just picking. Their QA departments are actually huge. Just look at the total sales and you can get an estimate of how many customers paid to be QA.

[@escape209]

Sorting a large folder in Windows still takes a fucking eternity. Maybe they should work on that instead of another 10 AI gimmicks that nobody asked for and just are just a distraction.

[@SahilP2648]

Micro$hit's Windows objectives have gone from pleasing the users (if at all that was an objective) to pleasing shareholders by adding fancy sounding terms while actually doing nothing.

[@steveh8658]

I have had zero issues with Windows 11 since moving to Linux.

[@MapleEmpire]

it's so funny how much more stable a prerelease version of macOS is compared to public release of Windows

[@tvandever2010]

I have the latest Mac OS on my m3 pro MacBook Pro and it has several issues, not to mention much slower overall than windows 11. My 2022 G14 has never had a problem with windows 11.

[@MapleEmpire]

@ you cappin or running the worst kind of softwares on the Mac, cause my M1 Pro still runs far better than a equivalent windows laptop, plus it has same performance when unplugged so idk how it can even be slower unless you talking about graphics

[@tvandever2010]

@@MapleEmpire Yet it still runs slower than a Asus g14.

[@mkabilly]

@@MapleEmpire 💯 been running my life on M1 macs since 2020 and they still perform great. I recently bought a Surface Laptop 7 with the supposed M3-killer Snapdragon Elite and that shit sucks. I was building a not-so-complex C project on it and thinking it didn't take that long. When I switched to my M1 (baseline, not even Pro) MBP it just blew the Surface Laptop away building the exact same project.

[@Traumatree]

@@tvandever2010 plugged and for the first 5 min until it throttles...

[@Saieden]

Cinnamon Mint is probably the most plain and boring desktop distro and I love it.

[@timbro1]

Windows is decades of bloat compounding

[@byteframe_primarydataloop]

"WIndows 10 LTSC for IOT Devices" has support for another ten years. Makes your games run a million times faster.

[@JTCulverhouse]

How is this different from Win 10 Pro?

[@byteframe_primarydataloop]

​@@JTCulverhouse LTSC version don't contain the microsoft store and any of the UWP stuff (save for Settings), and are as barebones as Windows can get. No ads in your startmenu. It otherwise aligns with the Enterprise variant rather than Professional. The new IOT moniker is just a title to discourage general use as it is intended for long running machines, but is otherwise a full version of windows. Using this version of windows will reduce your frame times by 2 whole milliseconds and will therefore making you a better professional counter strike combatant.

[@griffin1366]

@@JTCulverhouse It comes without pre-installed apps / store and only receives security updates meaning it's a build frozen in time. IMO it's rather useless as it still comes with 90% of the bloat.

[@griffin1366]

@@byteframe_primarydataloop Removing UWP apps has no impact on performance

[@hyperturbotechnomike]

Windows 11 LTSC exists too, but it does not run as well as 10, even on latest hardware.

[@Jupex]

Windows 11 causing Ubisoft games to crash is goated feature, best OS out there.

[@Peter-iw3ob]

Windows 11 made me finally switch to linux and I'm never going back.

[@nickduncan8171]

Not to mention the latest W11 update making my VR headset completely useless.

[@Aki_Lesbrinco]

This here is one of the reasons I haven't updated to 11. I've heard this from multiple VR users. I enjoy playing in VR and I'm not willing to lose the ability to play VR for no reason at all.

[@ross3695_basedhax]

This isn't even a bug, M$ actually went out of their way to rip Mixed Reality code out of DWM because they decided on our behalf that it's obsolete Meanwhile on Linux Micro$oft's own VR is still supported 😂

[@SEMARPE]

Your own fault for buying a mixed reality device

[@ramonzaions7522]

O damm i never hear about thath! I want to get a Pimax on the future.. my sistem is W11 should i have some concern abouth thath? What are the problems than you get on VR whit W11?

[@nickduncan8171]

@ramonzaions7522 it's just for Windows Mixed Reality Headsets, which they don't make anymore so you're fine! I ordered a psvr2 to replace my Samsung Odyssey Plus with

[@bogartwilley]

It's nobody going to talk about the INSANE input delay on Windows 11 that's been present since the original beta, and exists in every official version, very beta version, every development build, just across the board you right click and it's legit life 3 full seconds before it draws the right click menu even from a fresh installation and only gets slower the more you use it? No? Nobody ever mentions that? Ok sounds good.

[@fifth_elephant]

Paying extra for an unscrewed windows? God what a bad timeline we live in.

[@Z3rgatul]

if i am not mistaken in the past you have to buy new windows every time now we have free updates

[@specialfred453]

@@fifth_elephant Used to be you bought Windows and you got Windows. Now you don't have that option. You can either update to the latest version for free with your existing License and you get ads, or you can buy a new license for the latest version and you still get ads.

[@Mario583a]

@@Z3rgatul Not to mention, if you linked a Microsoft Account to your computer, you can use that license key forever and ever* *Home only activates Home | Pro to Pro\

[@saberspecter]

I've been trying to learn Linux for a few months and so far it's been giving me decent experience in single player games. Sadly Windows is needed for multiplayer due to anti-cheat.

[@Grizzermacht]

Steam OS can't come fast enough.

[@sheershaw22]

Just grab a linux distro like Nobara. SteamOS is not gonna be drastically different from any other distro that uses KDE Plasma.

[@ThePlayerOfGames]

Steam OS 3.x is just another Linux distro Launch Steam with the -tenfoot launch argument if you want their interface Gamescope can be installed on basically every distro

[@BoomSlang001]

I get the error message upon shutdown of my 7800X3D. 😅 I usually just tell it to shut up because I don't want the blaring sound to wake my kid.

[@Zircuitz]

Why I refuse to upgrade to Windows 11: 1. Forced MS account. No thanks. I value my privacy. 2. Recall. I know it can be disabled, but It's such an atrocious offense to privacy and security, I'm not even comfortable with it being installed. 3. The telemetry. Again: I value my privacy. 4. The bloatware. I don't want precious CPU cycles going to compute useless c*ap. 5. I wanna use the browser and search engine I choose, without being harassed by Edge or Bing. 6. Forced TPM chip. Why? I get the feeling something is sinister here. BitLocker being enabled by default and encrypted with a key you have no control over is just asking for files to be lost. Microsoft will then attempt to sell you "the solution" that is a OneDrive subscription.

[@JamesSmith-ix5jd]

If TPM is unique per machine and not easily hackable they will be able to tie your license keys to that, it will kill all piracy.

[@killerinfo]

Point 3, 4 and 5 already exist in Windows 10.

[@Zircuitz]

@@killerinfo True, but to a less extent.

[@bummers]

I've used Windows 11 from the day I can upgrade to it and have not met any of the issues described by people online.

[@NekiCat]

Me neither, it has been working at least as well as 10 for me. Though I also agree that it as problems, like the less customizable start menu and the weird double context menu. But I suspect it's also because people absolutely love to hate on Windows in general.

[@a-dutch-z7351]

That slow folder thumb thing, I thought it was my motherboard. Indeed, using the fastest NVMe and we will have to wait watching thumbnails load.

[@henson2k]

Actually delays are pretty universal across the system. Security, low priority for IO and other obstacles on a way to hardware I assume.

[@beebeedeluxe]

There are some tweaks you can make to icon cache and registry settings to help here but that should NOT be on the user for the default experience. It’s absurd

[@WigWoo1]

3:48 1.5 seconds? That is insanely fast. I have an SSD and usually I have to wait 2 to 3 seconds for certain folder open but that’s completely normal. That sounds kind of nitpicky if you’re seriously complaining about waiting for nearly 2 seconds like come on do you not have any other criticism. Are we that impatient these days It’s not fair to compare that older operating systems are faster because of course they were, there’s less stuff running in the background. With advanced technology and more features comes longer loading time that’s normal and should be expected

[@uscmhudson5504]

Maybe Satya Nadella should take a page out of Todd Howard's book and state, "It's a next-gen OS; we really do push the technology, so you need to update your hardware." That or Nigel Tufnel's "These goes to 11".

[@Mario583a]

Todd Howard: It just works.

[@flinzlogik]

Windows 11 is the best advertisement for Linux

[@mr.sherman7695]

I have an excel sheet at work that started crashing after Windows 11 update. It works fine until I copy and paste data within the sheet. It freezes and then begins not responding.

[@LilMissMurder3409]

Install some flavor of OpenOffice (LibreOffice is your best bet). It does everything MS Office does and then some. I have used it to open spreadsheets that Excel didn't know what to do with.

[@Tarodenaro]

Oh hey, it's nice for you guys finally found out the bigger problem than just focusing on graphics for a while.

[@crazman123]

Windows 11 the best ad for linux

[@axa993]

Windows 11 got so ass it pushed me to Linux Mint. I now boot into Windows for old games only. Couldn't care less about it.

[@gageracer]

That's why Linus does not want CPU specific optimizations on the kernel. If you want to optimize it, you do it yourself and search online. The amount of issues I had with Linux is always because of third party software. I never had an issue to boot it and load it. It's always a new update of DE having bugs or games having their own bugs. Linux for the win.

[@WigWoo1]

It’s so weird I’ve been using Windows 11 since it was in beta just like I’ve been using Windows 10 since beta and I noticed no difference. Windows 11 has been perfect and I’ve never noticed any difference in slow down. I love the features like auto HDR and direct storage. But my computer still feels this snappy as always as long as I don’t let it get too bloated

[@philipberick2874]

Nobara Linux rescued me from Windows, thankfully. Performance is excellent. Do I get some issues or small annoyances sometimes? Yes, because I am still learning to properly use Linux. However it is much much better than accepting Microsoft's increasingly intrusive abuse.

[@Karn0010]

I can't use modern Windows anymore after switching to Linux earlier this year. Just doing simple shit on Windows takes forever. It is unbearable anytime I have to use a PC with Windows, it sucks. On top of that after messing around with desktop environments and window managers on Linux, dear god is Windows just archaic. Every game I want to play works on Linux, through Proton. I don't play the multiplayer games with Kernel level anti-cheat. If you're willing to learn how to use Linux, and don't need things like Adobe, or Office (i.e work) well worth a try.

[@Whit3WolfXArcadia]

Microsoft laying off most of its QA team was a mistake that will haunt them forever

[@Mario583a]

The thing about this is that there is a plethora of individual hardware out in the wild to test with, not to mention, mix and matching. Why waste billions on physical hardware when you can simply use virtual machines to test individual hardware specs?

[@antoniog8276]

3:20 if you use a different file manager, such as Directory Opus, or XYPlorer, that slow-to-load issue goes away.

[@Edinburghdreams]

I would LOVE to jumpship. If photoshop support existed in Linux I'd be gone.

[@chris42069]

Dump Adobe and MS, equivalent software exists

[@KingKrouch]

Photopea and Krita comes close, and there's a official Adobe web version of Photoshop now.

[@sergeykish]

Donate to speed up alternatives development

[@ArtofBrentMinehan]

​@@chris42069Many of us have to use photoshop for work

[@mkabilly]

+1 to the "dump adobe" comments, but I'd try using Photoshop on the browser for a bit and see if you miss any features. If not, then it's a great sign you can move to Linux.

[@harleyspawn]

That media center spooling problem was something caused by Windows 7's introduction of Media Center libraries. The default libraries included a dynamic list of external drives. It would scan all drives for media when starting Media Center. Used to be you could either disable the default system media libraries, or redefine the libraries to exclude external drives. It used to be there so it could identify optical media upon startup. Or just use VLC.

[@emperorarasaka]

3:00 I just want Windows 7 back. Life was good when it was Windows 7.

[@luki8806]

W7 was great, I installed it on my PC on launch and used it until EOL without a single reinstall and without any issues. I skipped 8 and 8.1, 10 head some ups and downs but it finally pushed me to use a Mac and linux when an update borked my PC so bad that I lost all my data on it. That was the final push, it's running mint since then without any problems.

[@devilmikey00]

Windows 11 when it first launched? completely fine, essentially a reskin of windows 10 that I personally liked. Windows 11 as of the current update? A bloated AI pushing annoyance with a bunch of "features" I would rather not be on my machine because I am morally opposed to them. Using something like Bloatynosy is pretty much mandatory to strip Windows 11 down to just being an OS instead of something MS is using to harvest my user data, advertise it's BS at me and push it's waste of space AI assistant. I've been splitting my time between linux and windows more and more with the hopes of one day making the full jump.

[@m_schauk]

Windows is loaded with crap. I liked the 11 UI refresh idea and getting rid of all the old UI cruft, but Microsoft needs to restart from the ground up. Just get better at emulation to run old games/software, like Apple. This is still a 60+ GB operating system that should be 12-15 GBs max.

[@EivindSamdal]

Apple removed support for all 32-bit apps entirely, didn't they? In iOS and MacOS. That probably simplified the Intel emulation layer and let them remove a lot of older APIs.

[@m_schauk]

@ I think that’s correct. All I can say is I’ve been on Mac since 2000, and their emulation was amazing in each transition. There’s definitely some x86 bloat that’s causing problems too. X86S cannot come fast enough. I don’t know enough about Windows on Arm to speak to that platform.

[@cacomeat7385]

windows finally got a somewhat coherent UI and it cost all the dwindling stability that was left of the OS lmao

[@mkabilly]

@@m_schauk Windows on Arm is okay until it actually kinda sucks. I own a Surface Laptop 7 with the Snapdragon Elite chip and at first it was _fine_. It was finally a Windows laptop that could actually hold a charge for more than 8 hours. If you keep to native arm64 programs, it works just fine. You'll inevitably come across software that doesn't actually support arm64 and the performance for those will suck comparatively -- and you're mostly SOL because no one is on arm64, so no one releases arm64 builds. And as much as MS would like to convince you that their emulation layer is great, there is a lot of software -- especially those that rely on low-level windows APIs -- that just doesn't work. Like most VPN driver software, or software that writes directly to storage devices. Overall, I'm glad intel and x86 are losing market share in the laptop/desktop/server space, but Windows on Arm isn't there yet. It's much, _much_ better than it was in the past. And it is an actually usable experience right now, but aside from the better power efficiency, there really aren't any pros. Also I absolutely hate Copilot and MS' AI push. I also hope I can purge Recall from this system when it launches.

[@tarcisiosurdi]

​@@EivindSamdalmost modern Linux distros also don't support them by default, but if you really need to just installing some packages does the trick!

[@kieran9882]

I wish Microsoft would go back to Windows 7 and make minimal changes aside from adding security and driver updates, Auto HDR and refining Windows media centre for living room TVs

[@jamiepoirier1444]

All this just solidifies how nice it is to be on a sleek, optimized, and reliable operating system with a modern feature set with MacOS. If you can forego desktop gaming, the difference in UX is astonishing. It's funny to me to see how many people in the tech space deliberate giving up Windows and moving to Linux but fear the tinkering necessary... my friends, the answer is out there... and they really make exceptional hardware these days too at a good value with their own chips

[@ArthropodSpidey]

Yep, Unix ftw

[@jsullivan2112]

As far as everything else but gaming goes I completely agree. Switched to a Mac in 2010 and never looked back. I just built a new PC for gaming but that's all it does.

[@michaelkeudel8770]

The Mac ecosystem is useless to me, doesn't run the software I use. And also not paying huge prices for something I can upgrade, my last desktop lasted 12 years with upgrades.

[@francez123456789]

The windows 11 issues are literally why im swapping to linux. One of you guys hit the nail on the head, i want XP back!

[@netzash]

And that is why console refuses to die.

[@Crazical]

Well, both PC and console are doing quite well, the Switch 2 could break new records with it's backwards compatibility with the already popular Switch 1, and Valve seems nearing to release SteamOS to take advantage of Windows fall. They may even time the release for the End of Support for Windows 10 to maximise the amount of people jumping ship to Linux. 2025 is shaping up to be an important year for the future of gaming

[@ThePlayerOfGames]

The best console is the Linux console, I need to switch my xboxen to be Linux at this point

[@Gmlt3000]

Windows LTSB or LTSC. It use internet only for rare stable updates, no AI, no tons of crap - just work. And one more thing - use TOTAL COMMANDER!

[@wxmt95]

@ 9:24 same thing with me but i still have a hdd in my system for movies/music and pictures always wating on the hdd to spin up to do almost anything

[@nulian]

Feel your pain man every time I open explorer I need to wait for my HDD to spin up so freaking anoying.

[@ceebee]

"I'm sure the QA testers work crazy hours". No they don't, cause Microsoft sacked the Windows QA teams years ago. Who are these guys?