FULL TERROR ZONE TIER LIST | EXP, MF, SURVIVABILITY

[@Cleav3r]

Frozen River and Icy Cellar are among the worst in terms of survivability. Moon lords, snakes, souls, dolls, succubuses, all gathered together lol

[@0tyrael078]

Came here to say this. I think the Icy cellar is one of the scariest places in the game. Every spawn there is a killer. Frozen river isn't as bad but it's much larger.

[@cceyxx]

Even more so when 3 of them are boss groups on one screen. High curse on you, few shots take down 2000 of your 2500 hp and no reaction time against the frenzied undead dolls charging you. My fastest death yet.

[@senormarston]

​@@0tyrael078 yeah hahah I walk with my hands holding ass there. Such a deadly place

[@jooka2010]

Its straght murder evertime i think im brave enough. Anything over p1 is wild

[@khelom]

​@@jasonhardin2148dolls do Spawn there , alas....

[@RichRadd]

Converting all grades to numbers - S = 1, A = 2... F =6 Average out the grades across all the categories for an area. Convert these new averages back to a Letter, and the the list looks like this Sorted from best to worst (keep in mind, everything in one category is the same, there isn't a reason for something to be higher than something else) Area Grade Cathedral and Catacombs S+ Cold Plains and The Cave S The Forgotten Tower S Tal Rasha's Tombs S Blood Moor and Den of Evil S Nihlathak's Temple, Halls of Anguish, Halls of Pain, and Halls of Vaught S Chaos Sanctuary S Flayer Jungle and Flayer Dungeon A Outer Steppes and Plains of Despair A Worldstone Keep, Throne of Destruction, and Worldstone Chamber A Jail A Rocky Waste and Stony Tomb A Spider Forest and Spider Cavern A River of Flame / City of the Danged A Frigid Highlands A The Pit B Arcane Sanctuary B Arreat Plateau B Stony Field B Dark Wood B Sewers B Kurast Bazaar, Ruined Temple, and Disused Fane B Burial Grounds, The Crypt, and the Mausoleum B Durance of Hate B Tristram C Dry Hills and Halls of the Dead C Far Oasis C Crystalline Passage and Frozen River C Moo Moo Farm C Travincal C Lost City, Valley of Snakes, and Claw Viper Temple D Bloody Foothills D Glacial Trail D Ancient's Way and Icy Cellar D Kurast Sewers F

[@RichRadd]

docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/141FGtMlDzrp7j9YEWyxLDv8gSpoZrlI-gipFKDreXns/edit?usp=sharing Link for those who are curious, bit messy

[@MrsAhrim]

Who

[@osmium6832]

3:35 Editor: But Mr Llama, I'm you Llama: Oh, never mind then. Continue being handsome!

[@logankerlee]

Yo @MrLlamaSC would you mind adding bookmarks or whatever for which times you're talking about each thing? Mainly after the entire thing's done and you've organized them. It'd be a lot easier to read the list. Thanks man! :)

[@TheSummoner]

40:23 I like to think of this as a British Llama hating on foothills in general

[@davidstump]

I’m just here to say that Chaos Sanctuary, Arcane Sanctuary, and Rocky Waste/Stony Tomb were by far my favorites so far.

[@davidstump]

Oh, and sewers. Sewers were really fun as well.

[@reynaldodichosa3526]

What build are you running now? As of now im enjoying 8man baals and cs when its on TZ with my barb.

[@HerpDerply]

Consider this if you would: S-F as a 6 point scale with S being the least points and F being the most. Adding all 3 columns together could give you a numerical value as to what's considered better to farm. So Chaos Sanc is S tier for xp, that is 1 point. It's tier D for survivability, so 5 points. It's Tier S tier for MF, so 1 point. Together that equals 7 points. Kurast Sewers is tier F for xp, so 6 points. C for survivability, so 4 points. D for MF, so 5 points. That'd be rated at 15 points. You could sort the entire list by point value instead. Cathedral is A, B, S, so it'd be at the top with the lowest point value of 6. I suppose you could divide the total of each location by 3 to have a nice, smaller number as 6 being the best is a tad abstract. S, S, S for example would be 3 points, unless you divided the total by 3 thus giving you 1 point instead as the best possible outcome. dividing by 3 would give locations decimal values though, which is fine of course. People are fine with "These x locations are all pretty great", but many of us want "data suggests that this one spot specifically happens to have the best point value which implies that it is the overall top location to farm".

[@cawalkabout]

Thank you for making this list downloadable!!!! A true king!

[@Pathoslogical]

I’ve been farming cows and it’s cool that the route you run hits 3 potential terror zones: Tristram, stony, and moo moo farm. Makes it so I can justify running cows during times when any of those 3 are terrorized

[@Lonoty]

Running cows is always justified. Its an awsome farming spot and pretty fun too.

[@vodengc520]

@@Lonoty *Cries in FoH Pally*

[@joakimnygren9490]

@@Lonoty Moo moo, moo moo moo, moo

[@doaks31]

It is okay that not all zones are S tier, and any zone that is at least B for Exp or MF is finely balanced imo. That said, the easiest adjustment would be to combine zones (similar to Outer Steppes/Plains of Despair) and the examples I'd suggest that weren't already mentioned are: 1) Ancient Tunnels and Lost City/Temple 2) Far Oasis and Hills/Halls 3) Bloody Foothills and Frigid Highlands 4) Arreat Plateau and Crystalline Passage 5) Frozen Tundra and Glacial Trail That would just leave Grounds/Crypt. While they are bad they are also very safe/relaxing. Perhaps a very small tweak in density, or just leave these as the worst zone. If these are the worst case I'd be fine with that.

[@jawstrock2215]

3:40 The editor did NOT in fact cut it out.

[@logankerlee]

Really appreciate this video! Thanks for posting it on here Llama! :)

[@johnhampshire25]

I'm currently playing Diablo 2 ressurected on my Nintendo switch. Best game ever, haven't set it down been playing for a month. I run a hammerdin but I'ma switch up the stats/skills when I get to maybe 90 or heart of the oak. Running terror zone chaos sanctuary is good experience, jail has lots of chests and I've found a few sunder charms but they're dumb in my eyes, I've found 4 gheeds charms so far so all of my classes will have 1. Uuummm, Andy is cool , any boss terror zone is good, depending on what you're doing cows is good I got titans fury or those super high level javalins from a terror zone cow run. Thanks anyways, my older brother said you were good to watch, my very first character was probably a druid or necromancer but I made a assassin and a javazon. My brother was a ice/light sorc and I had a fire sorc, he also was a hammerdin and a whirlwind barb he was pretty good. Chaos sanctuary seems the best for experience because I died a few times and doing terror zone sanctuary runs gives me a whole bar or so from running them. Tristram is good also and Stony field for tal rashas sets I headd

[@bobnewkirk7003]

llama, why are you rating the A1-3 bosses as such a high MF target? I've largely been skipping them as their Treasure Class doesnt change and their mLVL was generally high enough to drop everything they could not being terrorized; Save Arach. For the most part I have been targeting elite packs as they would at least roll from the TC87 pool while the supers and bosses seem pretty limited. From your last video it sounds like higher mLvL picks preferentially from their highest TC, but in general this seems like only a marginal boost in value for bosses. Am I missing something?

[@Orthus100]

I would guess it's because the even with the same TCs, they are still very high value targets and are included essentially for free. Think of it more like boss running with the extra value from the terror zone itself.

[@honeybadger036]

Yeah, I'm with you on this Bob. I was thinking the same thing. Plus elite packs have the guaranteed drops, while the bosses are still held back by huge no drop chances.

[@Chlodny_Dziadyga]

I don't understand why side areas aren't added all across the board. Like Glacial Trail and Drifter Cavern and so on. Why? Just do it wherever possible - which I think is...everywhere? Or am I missing some problem?

[@vodengc520]

I love that right when I hit 75, I hit a Terror zone for the first time, and actually scored a decent Fire Sunder charm (-76%), lol. Too bad I'm maining a FoH pally for the season, so I'll have to save that for a fire sorc/druid when the season ends.

[@xGR1MxREAPERx]

Too bad all the charms are useless except cold one. I loved when these charms were first announced. Live fire sorc but can’t go anywhere as everything is fire res it seems.. the charm does 0 to help anything, same as light charm. Light sorc he infinity though, cold sorc has new charm and as usual Fire sorc gets fucked

[@PArtajaakko112]

​@@xGR1MxREAPERx what makes the other ones useless?

[@xGR1MxREAPERx]

@@PArtajaakko112 they had a patch and changed the way the cold works and the others so they all have some use now

[@Diablo2Arena]

Thats some good sheet ♥

[@aaronappel426]

I get on most nights after my work shift and back to back get locations I absolutely cannot even begin to farm. I can survive on p1 but with my work schedule I don't have time to sit and look for p8 lobbies. last ladder was incredibly easier to just get a foothold. I feel like everything is literally harder suddenly.

[@saemoneymoney3812]

I agree, also seems like I'm not getting any decent drops recently.

[@Mezion]

Magic finders unite! Thanks Llama 😁

[@davidn9126]

I love the Act 5 Halls/Niha as a javazon/light sorc. Unfortunately, I've only seen it terrorized once so far.

[@ДмитрийДибров-ц6ц]

My solo online experience tells me almost same things, but i totally disagree about Tal's: like Chaos or WSK it is obv S tier for exping and MFing (as i remember, total elite packs count is 43-60+). My playstyle after week is about jump and farm immediately those 3 areas when i see TZ popup with my Hammerdin (now it is 96 lvl). All other TZs - ignoring and just horking with my Pitzerker). At lvl 96 1 hour of grinding is about: WSK - 6 pct, Tal's and CS - near 5. Sometimes was Flayer's, but now im too lazy for it). Just dont like really big maps with low or spreaded density and few packs.

[@diacor4life489]

Stoney Field + Underground Passage Tristram + Cows

[@Boltxhardrock]

What made Frigid Highlands amazing for me is the way I ran it. You said you were teleporting around too much looking for packs. The way I ran it was hitting Eldritch then hug to one side the map and go to the first fortification area hit sharptooth go back along the side all the way down and then hit Eyeback. The whole time in between the 3 super uniques you are spawning champ and boss packs the majority of the time with a pathing that is pretty much linear. This was pretty consistent every hour that it was up.

[@MrLostform]

surprised they didnt add the portal dungeons to zones in act 5...

[@modernlegend_gaming]

@Jason Hardin that would mean alot of coding and designing... with what they did all it took was coding and fare less I really like it but would like to see more to it then just increase monster lvls

[@cornoratu]

Just curious, how are the Ancient Tunnels ranked? Are they lobbed together with Lost City, Valley of Snakes and Claw Viper Temple?

[@CallMehGhostly]

@mrlamasc question I'm sure alot of people are wondering too. is teleporting and killing the waves better exp or is walking then killing the waves better exp over all. secondly should you kill baal or skip baal?

[@Lonoty]

Unless your lvl 99, pretty sure its technically better to skip baal.

[@HersztGrupy]

About bloody foothills - I was just doing shenk over and over again and experience was dope. I don't see a point of clearing whole location. Same with eldrich on firgid highlands. And MF is op this way

[@ahhyepable]

What is your methodology in running these zones? Are you clearing everything, stuff that’s clumped both non elite packs and normals, or are you just sniping the elite/champ packs only?

[@silentsnooper3307]

Jail just feels empty to me.

[@Parasmunt]

My lvl96 poison nova necro can fill one whole bar of experience in less than an hour in tal rasha, pit, arcane sanctuary, spider forest, flayer jungle or any of the act 1 open spaces except blood moor. The positive of the open spaces is... hello.... experience shrines. Acts 4 and 5 have the worst terror zones.

[@deva3250]

Ruined Temple and Disused Fane is F Tier for me. Everytime I hit those spots, there where multiple Boos groups right at the entrance. Died in Loading Screen several times

[@czissac7908]

Very useful! THANKS

[@donaldkenne3776]

Tristram and cows should be combined IMO. I think a lot of these should be combined. I think the terrorized zones are too small in some cases and massive in others. I think smaller ones should be combined with eachother. Would also cut down on game creation spam.

[@zhadoomzx]

Dude, durance of hate should get survivability F - if you go there for a EXP full clear. Bremm Sparkfist & buddies is the OG hardcore ripper. Fana + Might combo, Conviction and Lightning Enhanced + Multi Shot... he got all the scary stuff. Oh... and there are dolls!

[@aomukai]

You're not right about Frigid Highlands. All the archers you mentioned for Bloody Foothills spawn there, too. Add to that the terrain complications, and you got terrible survivability (depending on class).

[@orlandothx]

As HC summoner druid I got My 2 sunders on mausoleum... it is so easy that i think i'll stick to act I. + Act V bloody foothills + stony on act 2

[@Mammel248]

I wish they would combine cows and tristram. One of the reasons cows kinda suck is because you have to spend so much time getting to tristram and then in tristram there's nothing valuable anyway

[@mandreadfg]

Wait I found a Griffons in Cold Plains too 👀👀

[@archie8271]

How different would you rank these tier lists on static offline maps assuming TZ's come to single player?

[@epromi]

If you would start rating from 'A' as best not 'S' then sorting would be easier

[@StevenSparrow99]

Can Trav council actually drop tc87s? I horked for an hour on my barb and didn't hit any (even 87 base items) small sample size but I don't think their drops are improved with being a terror zone.

[@z0rpan2]

Can you do another update? I've only recently started playing and I notice that some TZs are different now. There are also new TZs as well

[@MrLlamaSC]

Ya I should review them again soon

[@cornoratu]

@@MrLlamaSC Please include Ancient Tunnels as well (it doesn't seem to be included in this video). I know you used to favor the zone before TZs dropped and I'm curious how would you rank it comparatively to other TZs.

[@TerminallyNerdy]

I am going to assume this is for Hell difficulty.

[@XMJX647]

Which is better xp: p1 terror zones or p8 baal runs?

[@saemoneymoney3812]

I'd say baal

[@martinmaister3492]

Are there any Plans after season to add Terror zones for offline sp?

[@lucioleepileptique9195]

The Ancient Tunnel i act 2 is not mentionned

[@FangzTV]

Did Llama say terrorized cows have a better chance to drop runes? did I miss something or does terrorized zones increase drop rates for runes??

[@joakimnygren9490]

i did get a sur rune first run there and Lo prev ^^

[@modernlegend_gaming]

Cows have a high density which means more chances to drop hrs and with the cows lvls being terrorized this means rune drop table has now increased.. edit just remembered cows rune drop table all ready could drop all runes in game so increasing the ilvl 81 to ilvl 87 doesn't change much for runes, unless terrorized zones recode a new rune drop table like how the lower kurust super chest rune table changes via player count this I don't have info on if someone else knows I'd like to know

[@FangzTV]

@@modernlegend_gaming where is it written that terrorized zones increase runes drop tables?

[@modernlegend_gaming]

@@FangzTV are you serious you don't understand?? Rune drop table is based off of ilvls of the monster that dies... so if you kill baal he has an ilvl 87 drop table that's the highest drop table in the game which means he can drop everything from the drop table of all items in the game.. which means if your character is at least lvl 85 all terrorized zones will be ilvl 87 which means all monsters in the zone will have the drop table of all items in the game. With that said I just remembered that cows actually already could drop all runes in the game at being ilvl 81 so no terrorized cows actually doesn't effect rune drops for this zone but It does allow you to get items such as Griff that you couldn't before.. and all other zones that had a low ilvl now can drop zods etc..

[@strombolijones4255]

Wish I knew what I was doing wrong with finding high runes. I see clips and clips and clips of ppl finding 6-10 high tier tunes already and I have yet to find one. Tried travincal tried cows tried chaos sanctuary tried countess

[@saemoneymoney3812]

Your not alone dude trust me

[@andyjay494]

What the other guy said. I found a soj today but still havent found any good runes :(

[@jordil5469]

so how much faster is getting 99 now?

[@Rvscariot]

Wow 🤩

[@modernlegend_gaming]

Only thing I'd changed is bloody is an S tier for mf reset shenk runs op

[@DuBLD33]

Hmmm... revert bear changes! That's all

[@EtherealBias]

bear sorc is useless now :(

[@carlosdelfino3589]

why not apply a density mod, like i ve seen y ou play on those crazy dia-mods..... make it 4 or 6 times the monster density and make it some real factor....

[@nickelodeon1989]

make skiller charms tier list

[@plutobar1392]

Is farming zones in normal or nightmare for xp worth it well playing through?

[@Fishbro]

Yes, very. They're always suited to be 2 levels higher than your level. If baal runs aren't hitting the spot go farm terror zones to actually play the game without a loss in efficiency.

[@plutobar1392]

@@Fishbro so a zone in normal or hell doesnt make a difference? Are the 2 lvls higher then the person who creates the game or does it make mobs 2 lvls higher then the player who spawns them

[@Orthus100]

@@plutobar1392 It's the player who makes the game, then defaults to next highest if they leave. There is a cap on how high TZs can get in each difficulty: normal to 45, NM to 71. So while you can get some headway on a lower difficulty, you have to graduate eventually.

[@patigehteuchnixan9256]

Someone ever tryed whats better when finished normal mode? Terrorzones normal or Progress tru nm?

[@mapron1]

@Jason Hardin it is hard cap for 40 level if I don't forget. maybe 45 level.

[@patigehteuchnixan9256]

@Jason Hardin thx but what about better loot in normal Terrorzones is it better? Really have to test it

[@eviljeanyis]

editor cut that out.... or not lol

[@Macdaddy8124U]

Can anyone talk about offline changes? Are sunder charms available in offline? What about new runewords? Any seed changes?

[@honeybadger036]

41:57 "I never saw Arreat Plateau become terrorized", continues to rank it anyway 🤣 Otherwise its a great overall view of terror zones. Interestingly with the exception of 3-4 zones, it looks like the best zones are predominantly in the first 2 acts.

[@thaddeuslyons3367]

wait so if its S tier in difficulty does that mean its really hard or really easy lol

[@xqt6339]

IMHO There should've only been 1 S and 1 F per grouping, to show which is the best and worst.

[@mbr_radio8564]

First

[@Soreas1908]

this smile because you are the 1st XD