Diablo 4 Expansion DETAILS REVEALED

New details for Diablo 4 Vessel of Hatred, including the new spiritborn class, mercenaries, pets, and raids, and release date.
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[@V3x0r]

I want a goat mount that can go up and down the cliffs without dismounting...

[@stonecold5373]

no shit right...hard

[@jheicobguzman6132]

comments that go hard

[@ongkyiceroc6397]

LGo genshin impact then dont play Diablo sir

[@SkywalkerOne1977]

Cliffs are so stupid in this game. 100% give me a goat!

[@EMDRONES]

Devil Ram

[@duncling5471]

dear blizzard: now that you have brought wings, change my Inarius wings emote into equippable wings

[@VincentViolence]

THIS!!! Why should it be an emote! That pissed me off and not much to show your pre purchase of the game

[@alexcunningham9012]

@@VincentViolence Except every time I'm standing in the middle of the Avarice spawn point and I pop my wings at 0:05 secs before he spawns and it looks like I made him appear. Totally worth it

[@Caesar_1415]

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@astryl]

real

[@mcmelord]

That'll be $24.99

[@krsmovie1939]

Players: Paladin or crusader! Blizzard: Witch monk. ...

[@chrishaugh1655]

This was the most disappointing thing about the expansion reveal. WE ALL wanted a holy type of class.

[@RoppStark]

That shot in the cinematic with the hand of Neyrelle still hurts in my mind.

[@komodoknt]

that shii was insane

[@CasepbX]

It's all so terrible

[@MrAngerius]

I would prefer that ripping being portraided between her legs...more relatable to the Cosby suit...

[@INMATEofARKHAM]

Holy carpal tunnel syndrome, Batman!

[@phucnguyen0110]

Honestly I just hope the actual gameplay delivers as hard as the cinematic lol

[@aggieking87]

Getting a witch doctor merged with monk vibe for Spiritborn

[@krectus]

Yep, I knew they wouldn't bring back either class, so this is a good solution. If they do it right of course.

[@matthuck378]

I thought Rogue crossed with Barbarian...So basically Amazon. It could go your way too, although that pole-arm does not look like the weapon of a spellcaster. It still could be Monk-like.

[@stumbling_]

I agree, feels very much like that’s the direction they’re going

[@murray821]

I played a spirit skills witchdokter build in D3 and that was a lot of fun, I expect this to be a bit like that.

[@mje1984x]

Awful. I think you're correct.

[@J-O3XIV]

As a solo player, bcz my friends quit, ill have great difficulties with co-op/raiding.

[@matthuck378]

I wish they'd stop trying to force the MMO lifestyle on ARPG players. If we wanted to play an MMO, we would. There is no shortage of them.

[@dakotahernandez6920]

Wanna party up?

[@Wraithlen]

there will be a raid/group channel for events I bet. I doubt it would be that difficult to join them. Players have been doing it for decades in MMO's.....

[@blackwomangamer2637]

You should follow your friends on this one

[@proxmitikgames]

Just solo it :)

[@Arouxayis]

RIP crusader/paladin

[@jheicobguzman6132]

RIP indeed.. i hope it stays dead. paladin players are annoying af

[@Dark_Ale.M]

Can confirm, the good boy is waiting for us in Kyovashad! Cheer Dude for this speedy video!

[@bloodyax8070]

I noticed that the Ironwolves had the same battle animations as D2 mercenaries, it only made sense that they were porting them in

[@karsonkammerzell6955]

I actually loved the detail. The captain you fight with uses all the same spells as they did in D2. Also, I couldn't pin it, but I think music of that dungeon was related to the Iron Wolves; possibly in D3?

[@istvanjuhasz210]

I'm not against raids, if they don't force me to party up. If they are like World Bosses now, like I go in and there are a bunch of random players, but don't have to be literally in a party, it's fine.

[@elawen5]

Couch co-op is where it’s at

[@dewinter1411]

@@elawen5not everyone has a bunch of friends that can come over and sit on the couch. Especially grown folks with families and jobs. Hard to all get together and play on the same screen.

[@heronwhisky]

It won't be like that

[@EasyBakinX]

​​@@dewinter1411I mean my wife that has watched me play 1000+hrs on PoE is pretty excited about the couch co-op in poe2. My 13yr old son also has 1000+hrs in it and now he can play with his little brother on the same screen, while playing with my wife and I in a party.... yea... For added context, I have years of play time on d2 with no bots, probably 1000 hours on d3, and 800hrs on d4... and I've done everything you can do in d4. 1000+ hours in poe and I haven't even cracked the surface in that game. D4 is literally turning into a joke. 😂😂

[@Matisos3]

Playing with other people is always fun. For me i like it where there is bunch of people and they die and see me do it like a boss

[@MiCKEYDiAMONDSS]

If they have co-op pve, they need to give us freakin matchmaking UI

[@Matisos3]

They will, relax. It is not there now because they already have it in expansion thats why they do not focus on it to bring it to season 4

[@WildWestNeko]

They better not make this forced interaction. I want to be able to solo it all, with multiplayer only as an option. I don't want to be forced to play with randos when my friends are not online. That's why I discontinued playing any and all MMOs.

[@AurigaStar]

@@WildWestNeko Considering the very thing you deslike, is the defining feature of any MMO, have you considered that maybe MMO's are not for you?

[@LemonJezus]

it looks cool and all but the price of the dlc is CRAZY for just one new act and one new character

[@ebonhawken574]

The price is ridiculous

[@angrys13]

i mrean realistically we all paid 70+ for 4 hours of solo story, if you put it like that

[@rundown132]

its priced as a full game, yeah that aint worth it lmao

[@Mattyv7]

A bit rough, but im still getting it tbh

[@kenfndr]

I spent 20 dollars on breakfast at McDonald’s this morning, I think everything in the world is ridiculously priced, at least this will give me hours of fun.

[@jasonbrumwell2188]

I'll pre order when it's 50% off😂

[@karsonkammerzell6955]

Nothing wrong with that. And I'm going to buy it at launch because I love it, lol.

[@lil----lil]

exactly. in less....a month.

[@Zephyion]

Doubt you'll get 50% off before the actual release, so more like a post-purchase/order!

[@occy127]

Or when poe2 comes out with ps2 visual 'upgrades'.from ps1.

[@MultiplexityGaming]

cdkeys next year maybe

[@RockwannaHurdy]

I’m interested to see if there is a level cap increase. Thus extra paragon points and maybe access to another board.

[@MrJoshcc600]

That and that only would make me buy it. I don't care about the new class and my characters are maxed

[@clintcook8691]

It's stupid we don't even get a discount on the dlc if you bought the $100 edition

[@damaark21]

They don't care what time or money you've spent. They care about the time and money you will spend. That's why new players get the discount, and you don't.

[@irthatkid]

🤡

[@damaark21]

@@miodragpetrovic1447 I assume he means that new players get a discount on the dlc in a bundle, but noone else does.

[@damaark21]

@@miodragpetrovic1447 Incorrect but ultimately meaningless. In the store right now, buying the standard base game and the dlc separately cost more than the bundle. Obviously. So if you subtract the standard base game cost from the bundle you get.... Wait for it.... A discount on the dlc!

[@larsheiwegen97]

​@@damaark21honestly, you can look at that from both ways. You either get a discount on the base game or the dlc. It doesn't really matter as a discount is a discount. Just don't really understand why people are so angry about it. Example: People buy a game at launch and further down the line a game of the year version is being released with all DLC that came out for the game. For the price of the base game when it was fully released. And you don't see people shouting from the rooftops about that.

[@Rollsspelsmusik]

Rhykker just brushing over the adition of Legendary Glyphs is kind of funny xD

[@zerox3448]

So no Paladin? Oh fuck this

[@jheicobguzman6132]

You have to let him go. Paladin is dead

[@fnShaft]

7:00 well you definitely read my mind here. I want to play the game alone, being forced to group for Duriel or surrender the 4x efficiency rotations is already super annoying, so the thought of having raids in this game does not appeal to me at all. Here's to hoping you can just bring 4 mercenaries instead of players or something.

[@jessewallace3805]

What's the issue with multi play? It's more fun than solo.

[@fnShaft]

​@@jessewallace3805 That's kind of subjective but here are my personal reasons: I like playing at my own pace mostly, and I also like being responsible for everything on the screen and gauging my own progress, not having to wonder if I'm carrying or getting carried. I also need to AFK frequently

[@DarknessXevil]

I strongly believe the devs would not screw us over by making co-op mandatory for new content. I believe it will most likely be some sort of public dungeon or something where multiple people can come and go. Not sure how they plan on doing that but it could work on a timer with a new world boss as the final dungeon encounter because as we know there are builds that can solo world bosses with relative ease. I will remain optimistic because the devs have earned it so far with season 4.

[@Anotherhumanbean12345]

s1 was shit s2 was shit and s3 was shit, and you're holding on to a prayer cause 1 out of 4 wasn't bad. really playing the odds with this one huh.

[@astic5051]

Very much looking forward to a lot of announcements. Now I just need to see all of the things they promise before I'll get too excited

[@MathersMahmood]

I hope we can match make in the activity. I don’t want a destiny raid situation where I can’t play all the content

[@krectus]

They have it in Diablo Immortal, you can find random people waiting at the dungeon entrance and team up with them. It's...not great but works.

[@ThatJunnyBoy]

you can matchmake for raids in destiny now lol

[@EasyBakinX]

​@@krectusthat's a poor excuse lmfao

[@Koraksis]

Are we getting armory for build loadouts?????

[@ZeroStako]

That trailer went really hard on the horror aspect, very well done. I'm glad to see that the new class won't be the next X pseudo-tank, so I'm actually excited to check it out. But let's be honest: we're all in it for the dogs.

[@Jackson-pd2vj]

I'll buy it when there is a holy Crusader class.

[@BearInTheWoods]

Holy crusaders are in the game. They’re enemies.

[@jheicobguzman6132]

keep waiting. give it 4 years, maybe 8 and you will get your gay paladin class free of gluten limited edition

[@GrimnirsGrudge]

@@BearInTheWoods Those are followers of Inarius, a corrupted angel. He does not represent the Light, he has twisted it to his own desires. There is still room in the game for an angel to lead Crusaders against the forces of hell for the good of mankind.

[@shabla]

I really hope they reworked the skill trees. For raids initial reaction is negative, this aint supposed to be a mmo, but I guess we have to wait to know more details...

[@MrGoesBoom]

Yeah, D4 is already heavily biased to group play and they seem to be pushing it more to MMO with this expansion. As a solo player I'm feeling pretty meh

[@rabidkangar00]

They literally designed the game to be more MMO like wtf are you talking about? You don't need any .kre details, youve already made up your mind. Not sure what everyone was expecting but something tells me they wouldn't have been able to make you happy no matter what they did

[@Anotherhumanbean12345]

@@rabidkangar00 thats not how you convince someone. if the initial reaction to raids being bad, coming from the one developer in the world, that created raids. and executed them well. if there is still no faith that the #1 company in the world that creates raids. wtf is the argument? did you even think your response through? you think the company with the best track record of making raids should have a bad INITIAL reaction to released raids? is your brain deformed?

[@angelic_venom]

Maybe raids will be like World bosses and legions, random set of people to join up with. Lessening the issue of grouping for those of us who solo play. Maybe not but that would be one way to avoid the lack of a group finder and also avoid forcing people into chats etc...

[@Anotherhumanbean12345]

you named two instances of failed forced co-op. good job.

[@thenorfire900]

Thinking of Rhykker's starting stream music D2 jungles prophesizing it's return? Gonna be jamming to that till expansion launches. Thanks my man!

[@LoganH0076]

I wonder how the raid will be tuned. In a game like D4, it sounds like it would be VERY difficult to make it accessible to a decent percent of players while not making it extremely easy to people running full meta builds. Maybe it will be tuned around meta builds and is only expected to be completed by high-end players to receive unique rewards or even cosmetics? Or maybe there’s even a way to scale the difficulty and rewards? I’m interested to see how they approach it

[@soulreaperll7888]

FFFFFFFFFF I JUST WANT A TANK BUILD LIKE CRUSADER

[@InfoRanker]

Throns barb is pretty close.

[@iGhost]

@@InfoRanker I take it he means a proper holy class shield user. I want that class too

[@matthuck378]

@@iGhost I want a proper holy class shield user. They can rework it, but basically the obvious: Paladin/Crusader. Let them carry 2H weapons in one had with a shield and give them access to auras similarly to how the Necro has access to summons. It's weird with all the PvE/PvP they push, they aren't releasing the ultimate MP character class: Tank with Auras.

[@Selrymm]

Lol a tank build 😂 how when armor is capped

[@lain4231]

That's literally the barb. They have shouts buffs and debuffs and tank.

[@lornelthaltmer]

We need to have the ability to change the opacity of the visual effects of our moves to reduce cscreen clutter

[@MrLove-ty1si]

You're right about the rage incoming for Co-op. I for one. They better make the Mercenaries relevant and make full team to do that Dungeon "solo".

[@jbanks9491]

Get friends

[@MrLove-ty1si]

@@jbanks9491 Lol I have plenty of friends in the real world. My PC video game playtime is on my own, so no, I don't need to make fake friends for their sake.

[@flexibleknot]

The trailer cinematic is absolutely terrifying! What a job well done!

[@wordvomit100]

I have been waiting for a new class, but cant say i am impressed with this one.

[@theMagos]

You know nothing of it yet, except the name and one piece of artwork...

[@rabidkangar00]

​@@theMagos This. But in all seriousness, must we bitch about everything? I'm growing very tired of these whiny asshats who never seem to be satisfied.

[@krectus]

feels like Witch Doctor 2.0 maybe. So might be cool, but maybe not.

[@MrCleman1]

@@krectus Kinda Witch Doctor 2.0 but more of a fighter than a spirit priest ig

[@matthuck378]

From what little info we have, it sounds to me like a Rogue/Barb cross. Nothing like the Witch Doctor...Or sadly, nothing like a Paladin.

[@sombrego2260]

PoE has shown with multiple seasons that mercenaries are not fun, season of the construct has shown that mercenaries are not fun, Diablo 3 has shown that mercenaries are not fun. Annnnnd they make Mercenaries one of the main features of the first expansion... What? The Spiritborn is cool to me as it's finally something fresh and new but everything else already sounds totally outdated and missing the mark. Pets are just another way to sell cosmetic they are not a feature let's be honest. Give us more spells for every class, more parangon boards. Not more 25 bucks overpriced BS on a rotating store that does everything in its power to sell you BS.

[@Phaxey]

I disagree with your take on mercenaries. I liked mercs in D2 and D3. But I absolutely agree on your criticism of pets and the in-game shop.

[@Whelp140]

I lost count of how many videos I've seen you in the past couple weeks but you are spoiling us sir

[@skizafraz]

@Rhykker another great video, but there seemed to be static when playing this video, but not your other videos, just FYI.

[@discoviolenza1984]

The price of this DLC is garbage.

[@adzrani83able]

Agreed.its pricey

[@Boris82]

I can pay with garbage? Sweet, i can get some of that

[@JAndersonGhost0326]

They're going to put a group activity into a game without a group finder? Would love to know how they expect that to work.

[@darylandcat]

I expect trade channel to explode.

[@adammauer6424]

Friends , communities, discord the list goes on

[@silureswarrior6045]

Honestly not thrilled about the idea period, I stopped playing wow 15+ years ago for a reason Mmo lite is not why I play diablo

[@brandonjohnson9876]

Do we know they aren’t going to add a group finder in the expansion?

[@adammauer6424]

@@brandonjohnson9876 possibly

[@ChoseeComprende]

I just noticed that few of my mounts are missing from selection ... They are not gone, since my Barbarian still had it, but when i changed it, i cant pick it again since its simply not there anymore ... :-/ Was there any word about that?

[@dannyjoedaniel7903]

DUUUDE you got used in a diablo ad!!! big praise!!! love your stuff man!!!!

[@Rhykker]

Oh man where?

[@ItsTheGofa]

Asheara is Act I not II sir, thanks for the update video :)

[@KnEpH131]

Wrong. Asheara is from the jungles of Act 3 D2.

[@ItsTheGofa]

@@KnEpH131 Youre right, apologies sir.

[@iamgeorgesears]

inb4 spiritborn = reskinned witch doctor.

[@MrJoshcc600]

Witchdoctor monk

[@Yo_Muthas_Bush]

About the part of new skills, I really hope they finally give Sorcerer their 3rd enchantment slot. Being a Sorc main, that's the biggest thing missing in my opinion.

[@michaelreinsma6189]

To get all the pre-order goodies, You have to buy the most expensive version. Standard, which all I can afford atm, only get Snow Leopard pet and Mother's Lament.

[@Lineage4you2]

I don`t know but for me kurast paladin expansion would have sounded better.

[@beefcakeman1525]

i agree man this class is so whatever. people wouldve enjoyed this class more if it launched along side the paladin. now we just gonna say we shouldve gotten a paladin

[@Thallium212]

@@beefcakeman1525in a way I agree, but we barely know anything about the class. Like damn, it can’t be “whatever” if we don’t even have gameplay of it.

[@beefcakeman1525]

@@Thallium212 yeah thats fair. i just think the disappointment of not getting a paladin will bring it down which is kind of a bummer

[@BourbonJRA]

@@beefcakeman1525 I think we will get a paladin class eventually, probably in expansion 2. For this one, I agree it’s kinda meh but as the guy above said we know barely anything about it. It’s something different at least. I’m keen to see what it’s all about

[@vampiricalchemist]

Man I'd rather have new class rather than yet another classic. D4 is the only main diablo game with no new classes to the series. We just opened with 5 classic classes. Jesus, allow for something new every now and then.

[@mansoorhameed7075]

we already have "raids" in the form of legion events and world bosses, but now we can have it in a dungeon format instead of being a world event. I hope these can work as an alternative to nightmare dungeons

[@mas5517]

None of those are anything close to a proper raid

[@Boris82]

Yep

[@Boris82]

​@@mas5517 No one cares, we don't want World of Warcraft here.

[@user-bk9wt8gk1q]

So it's a split in the playerbase? Or is the difference only that i can not play the spiritborn if i don't buy the addon?

[@neme5i577]

It is very likely like in D3, where you can find Sader and Necro gear, but can't use them. But still be able to play with people who do own the addon/class.

[@Zumbakeny]

I love the idea of bringing in a co-op. It can be a partial focus or a majority of the game's focus. But it gives an additional play style and a way to play with friends. It also makes clans more valuable. Maybe adding co-ops, they will fix the clan system, as well.

[@Matt-xm9nd]

i dont group.....just cant be done by me, for those that can - here you go!

[@krectus]

They do this in Diablo Immortal, you go to the dungeon and team up with random people also waiting outside the dungeon, it's...fine I guess but not great. Sorta like World Bosses, then you go solo again afterwards.

[@piktok1]

@@krectus VERY bad idea, this would force devs to make the dungeon super easy so you can do it with randoms, just like world boss. TERRRIBLE dssign

[@Nebuli2]

@@piktok1 Yep. This strikes me as if it's going to either be too easy that it will disappoint people, or it will be completely inaccessible to most people. Seems like just a generally dangerous area for them to get into, and I hope they rethink requiring multiple people for it.

[@KnEpH131]

Solo self found or bust. I don't PvP either. Grouping is for speed-runners/blasters who will blast through to endgame and complain there is no new content and nothing else to do.

[@irthatkid]

​@KnEpH131 this guy has no friends

[@MrBreakdownBoy]

I was hoping for two classes, in particular a knight and monk-type class.

[@dewinter1411]

It’s never enough. Any company can make any announcement and someone will always want more or something else. Gamers can be a weird bunch.

[@TheAzulon]

@@dewinter1411 They are asking 40 bucks for the expansion (the most basic version, 60 for the deluxe), the same price as Helldivers 2 asks for the entire game. Of course we are not satisfied with 1 new char and 1 new act.

[@JoblessBuhdda]

They told us back in January. It was only gonna be one new class. Why for people always expecting something different you knew one class was coming.

[@TheTickyTickyTicky]

@@dewinter1411 because they never got what they wanted. Companies keep giving gamers useless crap instead of the things they want.

[@Knightrgt]

@@dewinter1411 meanwhile they laucnh two or three way cooler classes in the mobile game, we can bitch about overpriced trash content, saving my money for poe2

[@sunkeeper8318]

I always like the happiness and enthusiasm rhykker manifests when he is thrilled about something...you can see it in his voice and hear it in his eyes at the same time. not to mention the erratic hands

[@KaasTVNL]

awesome!!! can you please fix the noise in your mic?

[@d4rksyndicate]

the price............

[@makara204]

Wake me up when they finally have a Knight/Crusader/Paladin class.

[@savic1984]

same. i will be skipping this expansion. there is nothing there for me.

[@andrewtoledo181]

Paladins are dead. You see how they all fell if you do the side quests

[@savic1984]

@@andrewtoledo181 and they can all be resurrected by mystery magic. So easy. Using lore to explain lazy and cheap game designers

[@Frosty7575]

I am fine with the raid or whatever so long as the matchmaking is done well and done in game. I don't want to have to open a reddit lfg post just to do an activity.

[@mcshannon02]

I got an email I clicked and then clicked pre-order to just try and see price and it said not eligible

[@ArcticBanshee]

Awesomeness!!! That trailer reminded me of a Hellraiser movie.

[@murderycatdoll1380]

Me too! The First one already was soooo Hellraiser Like and i Love it!

[@MrNumbers6969]

i feel like were going to get every prime evil per DLC

[@fhoenixx5185]

Could of told you that after playing the story. There are 3 expacs at minimum. We get Baal after mephisto and then diablo

[@madrox8]

we are, it was one of the things they confirmed for DLC campaign plans shortly after release, and depending how well they do we may get more then just 3 and have other evils as bosses that havent been seen yet in D4 (azmodan, beliel)

[@brettlewis2900]

An expansion on the lesser evils is not needed. They can include them as a midway point boss easily and stick to prime evils being final bosses of an xpac.

[@DozenMarks]

What we really need to cap the game off is the final expansion having the big "Original Evil" or whatever that apparently all 7 Prime/Lesser Evils came from back when it was just one all-encompassing Super Evil. If that doesn't sound like a final boss for Diablo, I don't know what does.

[@oerandavis8750]

​@@DozenMarksnow that I can get behind felt I've been around since diablo began so I know exactly what your referring to

[@pensfan_traders8734]

Are they charging you money immediately after you preorder?

[@jaredgarlock1594]

Could the mercenaries be a way to have other players for those that want to solo the raid dungeons?

[@hardstyle4evajarhead]

just owning the standard editions the total with the base game + this DLC will be 170$ AUD standard editions...........

[@jheicobguzman6132]

yes i prefer my japanese game for phone. its free but i have to waste 100 dolars minimun for every new unit introduced (gacha games are hell)

[@pokermitten9795]

​@@jheicobguzman6132wut

[@deathnotary4969]

I would be okay with raids like the world bosses. Have to have a minimum level and item power and everyone on the server just auto loads into the raid like the world bosses currently do.

[@Silencer2869]

I'm ready! Looking forward to all the new things! 😊

[@ChaiChungYu]

Do we know how big is the expansion map?

[@neme5i577]

I have not seen anything datamined about that yet, but it will be south of Kehjistan and Hawezar, or just one side (if you take the river as seperator). If it is only one side, then likely the western part with the Torajan Jungles. www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fbi5quw0jrfqa1.jpg

[@Cameroo]

That cinematic was fucking incredible. Love the visual design of the new class. Really wanna know more. love the mesomerican design langauge

[@Mythos131]

If co-op is required, it's not for me

[@jheicobguzman6132]

dude its diablo. coop was never required. this new game mode will be ignored if they dont give it the best rewards the game has to offer

[@Mythos131]

@@jheicobguzman6132 I know it was never required before. But I'm not sure about this expansion. I'll wait and see

[@Anotherhumanbean12345]

@@jheicobguzman6132 yeah and so many people have trouble soloing the base game cause theyre bad. so yeah ofc blizzard will make a way for them to get carried by good players. waving "the best rewards the game has to offer" comes along with " you just have to put in the effort of two people" because leeches happen to exist. is still not an attractive offer.

[@JamieR]

Mephisto was always the coolest boss in the Diablo universe. Glad to see him return!

[@michiganjack1337]

I just started playing D4 last week and today I just unlocked the pet, I thought it was already part of the game, and said to myself wow they finally are borrowing from Torchlight (however the pets in D4 aren’t as robust as they are in Torchlight.)

[@Ubeer85]

I just hope the co-op isnt required. I dont want to play with toxic idiots saying my build isnt meta

[@Anotherhumanbean12345]

i don't wanna play with toxic idiots who think their trash build is worthwhile. you just slow people down because everything is scaled to meta efficiency. that means you're actively disregarding others wants and desires because you literally don't care about them. that's basically griefing others. we would rather you play by yourself too.

[@Ubeer85]

@@Anotherhumanbean12345 In what way is it toxic to play non meta? If the **raids** are optional its win win for all dont you think?

[@cinderden]

I thought they said no to wings and pets originally

[@grmigrim9834]

They said they did not include them initially because they thought it might be too much visual "clutter" for the release of the game, but that they would think about introducing them later on.

[@utmastuh]

Then they realized how much more money they could milk out of players if they sold them in the shop. It's also funny they are willing to kill visual immersion with these things but refuse to give the game a map overlay

[@helljumper_]

​@@utmastuhye...the real reason for the lack of map overlay is not immersion, but the fact that they want you to see other people in the world running around (potentially using skins from the shop)

[@CyBeR1129]

it was just about to time we reach this point to we got overflashy cosmetics... auto pickup pets... overpriced horse skins... its happening bois :) time to milk the d4 players. :) now people will lick d4 boots no matter what they do. :D

[@tuclance]

​@@utmastuhwhy u need a map overlay for? U can place a marker where u want to go unlike othergames... just follow the line. Super ultra easy. Havnt feelt the need for a overlay thats all over the sceen at all and i got plenty of 100's.

[@LordBriareos]

Hoping to snag the pre-order for my birthday. Excited about pets and mercs, since I play solo 90% of the time. Still feel like the Spiritborn is gonna be a reskinned Blood Hunter from Diablo Immortal but still interested in how it actually turns out. BH is my second favorite class, so I'll be happy if they wind up feeling similar.

[@musikvoodoo3851]

Isnt the release date in august? I thougt that in october it‘ll be in the xbox pass? I just watched the trailer again and it also says release is in august. Im confused..

[@countryc0unt]

you can't read american dates apparently

[@Warlock8ZERO]

Raids just seem like a bad idea to me, as they are typically designed around try hard guilds due to players needing to communicate to get a higher than average rewards with the more players that take part. It's always going to be better to do a raid with more people than solo, otherwise doing a raid would be pointless other than doing it for fun, unless it has unique drops or something, then it might as well be called a rift all over again. Then it's going to sudo penalise casual players for not being able to take part with efficient guild raids. Will be interesting to see how they get around this problem, if they do at all.

[@ekurisona663]

pre-purchase $40 - $90 😂

[@TheCosta5000]

$90 Australian wtf.

[@carterhearst2784]

It’s $35 with game pass!

[@Arkzus]

I thought about going back and finishing D4 when the new class came out, but now that I see what it is, I'm good.

[@user-hq5cd9fu4c]

I re really like your idea on how to incorporate the raids in their functionality into D4..if raids do happen I really hope they take that direction or just don't do raids..ty for another great video ,!!

[@Saul117]

no paladin or crusader class T.T, i wanted to do a throns build with a shield.

[@dantwosecstudio]

Necro can do thorns with a shield 😅

[@Anotherhumanbean12345]

@@dantwosecstudio its more their minions and it still feels like a pet build.

[@Ming_______]

I'll dream of Paladin and wake up to see everyone running around with big glowing wings riding their high fantasy WoW mounts. At least not-jaguar-warrior is a pretty cool class idea. Maybe it can go spear and shield at least, so javazon can come back in spirit (and maybe shields can be more than an after thought, if we're lucky)

[@JonathanWinchester-xc2nr]

Seriously i want my paladin. Excited for the new class, but my pallllyyyy.

[@Forestmarko]

perhaps in the next expansion.. it seems D4 will last a fair while longer (thankfully)

[@pokemonfan2630]

I think shields should be a main difference between pushing high pits and not, like in d2 chance to block was a big deal, i used a shield on my necromancer and it did nothing for me lol, for all the power you lose the blocking needs to be more effective.

[@Enodamus]

Honest question: My wife and I play this game couch co-op. Anyone know if we will need two version of the expansion? On Ps5, one game copy is enough so am hoping that this extends to the dlc. Anyone have extra info?

[@tomasrvb3011]

I don't think you'll need two copies of the expansion if you're playing couch co-op using the same copy. Not sure, though.

[@Enodamus]

​@@tomasrvb3011 This is the most concrete response I have seen since researching this topic. Thank you

[@AeAeRon]

I assume the coop part is remedied by the mercenaries?

[@jheicobguzman6132]

i hope cus i hate to deal with tards on my party. no matter thegame

[@CarySmith87]

​@jheicobguzman6132 you'd rather have an npc, than actual people who u already assume will be tards? Lol

[@hurfdurfy8167]

@@CarySmith87 At least you know what to expect from the npc, as opposed to some spastic who pulls another room on their own while shouting LEEROYYYYYYYYY!!!!! 🤣

[@jheicobguzman6132]

@@CarySmith87 yes. i hope someday in the future our new robotic overlords take control of everything

[@ScottLesperance]

Hey, a Druid with a spear!

[@jheicobguzman6132]

its a cat druid not the bear/dog we already have :D

[@Anotherhumanbean12345]

@@jheicobguzman6132 catdruidrogue

[@Anotherhumanbean12345]

I know, the lack of creativity is astounding.

[@CrimsonEnvec]

no paladin/templar sword/board dumb...

[@FoliumSakura]

idk how we have a diablo game with absolutely no holy based warrior to purge the world

[@IxJraI]

@@FoliumSakura paladins are literally done for in the lore lol

[@FoliumSakura]

i mean, if you want to put in lore that disables one of the major class fantasy archtypes, then sure! go for it!

[@GrimnirsGrudge]

Crazy thing about the lore, it can be changed on a whim! They don't even have to justify it or anything. If they wanted Crusaders to have a reason to exist, they could literally just make it up and disregard anything they've ever said in the past because consistency isn't a thing in Diablo anyway :D

[@Vmcf1968]

love your perspective brother

[@TheQuikMix]

This is a lot of good news, honestly, and it makes me happy to hear that they appear to be listening to fans. I hope it all comes to fruition.

[@vyktorzhuravlev8304]

Where is the paladin? )

[@BearInTheWoods]

D2. Just go play that?

[@jheicobguzman6132]

He is dead. you have to let it go

[@savic1984]

@@jheicobguzman6132 this is the honest truth. i hope everyone who wants a knight class doesn't buy this "expansion". i wont for sure.

[@captaincrossplay]

Just give us the Paladin instead, lizzard

[@Manbearpiet]

Witch doctor OOOyaaa

[@Caesar_1415]

Yup I'm getting back into D4, thank you!!!!!

[@Ayreon-TECsystem]

If you can't do the "raid" solo, i won't be playing that part of the game. I'm a solo player and I don't want to be pushed to team up with other people. I hope they won't ignore the core solo player AGAIN !!

[@marknadeau]

Can't be a raid ... imagine loading 24 other players inventories. It's just non sense.

[@MrJoshcc600]

You mean like the world bosses?

[@Em4gdn1m]

It's funny, when D4 first came out and they said an expansion would be coming in 2024, me and just about everyone else said it was too soon, that this was an obvious money grab, etc etc. But I'm eating my words today. I am super excited for the expansion, and it can't come soon enough.

[@lynch42o]

Shitties will be shitties, you betas can’t help yourselves. Addicted and raised in mediocrity

[@MrJoshcc600]

The end of 2024 is a year and a half after release. Most games drop dlc 6-8 months

[@tipakornjomko2998]

i really need to buy this if i wanna progress futher or just enjoy it ?

[@Conical187]

I'm a huge Diablo gamer, I've been playing D2 for over 20 years and I still do to these days. They got me really good with D4, I even purchased the ultimate edition and I felt stupid for doing it. They're not getting me again this time around. Not even at 80% discount.

[@norscout3031]

>Game where you fight Demons >No Holy Knight archetype Bizzard...please...

[@IdiawesKara]

RPG rules profanity

[@adammauer6424]

It will come eventually

[@Falthad]

The "holy" side is in shambles right now. Inarius is gone. The church is likely having it's internal strife. I would love to see the story of how the Angels try to save face here after Inarius's failure, because at this point, it feels like the people's faith has been rightly shaken. Probably a different expansion's story we'll see a Paladin/Crusader archtype. An idea I had heard was for the Paladin to have an option to be a Paladin of Hell rather than a Paladin of Light. Angels in this game are not objectively good by a long shot.... shit it took Tyrael to keep them from wiping Sanctuary out. Lillith, while her methods may have been misguided, wanted to enable the people of Sanctuary to keep their Nephalem power, not strip it like Inarius pushed for. All Inarius wanted to do was suck some angels off to get back into the high heavens. Anywho, I'm all for options, bring all the classes!

[@IdiawesKara]

@@Falthad more reason for US to have a true warrior of light archetype

[@norscout3031]

@@Falthad Sounds like we need a hero to step up!

[@kylewessels3606]

S4 ends August 6th

[@Truthseeker-iz3dj]

Season 5 will probably be a 2 month remix of season 2 and 4

[@Stefiou974]

I was like, is Rhykker trying to make a joke when he said "it's gonna be a pretty short S5" ?! Bc only 2 days for a season, gotta be a mistake 😂

[@tomasnovellino5980]

I'd love to see mercenaries being linked with reputation. So it could be a nice way to reignite interest for quest grinding in the upper map. I would also like the mercenaries to level up with us in a more interactive way instead of the robot spider and its stones

[@Pixelsoep]

As a solo player, I'm certainly not opposed to raids. Having said that, I don't want them to give other players advantages over people who play solo. I don't want to be forced to play the content; so no random currency drops, that can only be obtained from that activity.

[@chrisburke2192]

Still no Paladin or Crusader...ugh

[@jheicobguzman6132]

cries in Zakarum

[@Jimbozinya]

Meh, happy about the story continuation, disappointed in the class announcement. They should have just brought back the witch doctor and/or Amazon.

[@yulfine1688]

amazon wouldn't make sense here, it should have been paladin or crusader..

[@Jimbozinya]

@@yulfine1688 What?? They're right next to the Skovos Isles, surely their Sages, mystics or whatever would feel Mephisto's energy approaching... of course it would make sense.

[@yulfine1688]

@Jimbozinya well, you'd have to look at lore. A lot of them were killed in d2 and in d3 the majority of the world was killed off something like 97% I think. While there may be some left it is unlikely and either way it ties into akarat which is the paladin and crusader which rose on that area.

[@Anotherhumanbean12345]

@@yulfine1688 yeah because d4 is following the lore of the last few installments SOOOOOOOOO closely.

[@Anotherhumanbean12345]

@@Jimbozinya dude d4 don't even have diablo in it why do you expect it to make sense.

[@darkkenzi]

DO THE OTHER CLASSES also have option to hire a merc upon release????????????????

[@omnisomnia]

Honestly they could add a warrior skin for barb, with. Doctor skin for necro, wizard skin for sorcerer, amazon skin for rogue - do that in conjunction with a few weapon options and new skill options (all former skills get ,skinned’ up too though) - can’t do that for monk though or maybe you do that for spiritborn then later a crusader skin for pally or vice versa. Honestly just want an arcane wizard vs this elementals bs with sorcerer