Diablo 4 - S5 PTR: Undocumented Changes, Bugs & More

[@wudijo]

What have you been trying out so far? Anything you would like me to look into?

[@Mas-ij3ti]

The fact that sorcerer cannot do damage unless they use the new unique helmet that is bugged. Makes damage go from 1-3 million to 1-3 billion.

[@kerogre256]

Rouge executing PIT 200 mobs…

[@Truthseeker-iz3dj]

I was hoping to test Pit leaderboards in PTR but I see this isn't coming, maybe next expansion?

[@tomtomkowski7653]

I tried the new Chain Lightning with Sorc and it is terrible. Is good for Helltides but PIT100+ is a disaster. BTW: Where we can report the feedback? I can only see the 'bug report' button. D4 forum is the only place?

[@tomtomkowski7653]

@@Truthseeker-iz3dj To create a button in a game that would ask the server to make a select query on a DB is not that easy to do for Blizzard xD

[@tylerj3855]

With going back to hell, I’d expect it to be HORDES of demons. This looks like a regular event in the helltides

[@R_a_X]

Diablo is missing man. Demons aren't showing up to work.

[@jordongee2347]

Greater rift trial re-skinned as new content. Classic Activision.

[@Doso777]

Regular Events in helltides have more mobs these days, at least with profane mindcage.

[@hiddenxalpha7053]

@@Doso777 Well those aren't in the game anymore so..

[@folkmetalkid]

If they leave the compass and it's upgrade system as is, most of the players won't play this mode, you have to farm so much, for almost no reward.

[@dominikb9202]

Farm what ? You get plenty compass from the helltide. And then you need abyss scrolls to upgrade the tier on a fresh compass. Which are tradeable fyi. Correct me if I missed something.

[@glansberry]

@@dominikb9202 just from what I have seen via other videos, the compass drop rates outside of helltides are not optimal. And, some folks have reported compass mats have been bugged (ie deleting) when stored in stash..? (Not participating in the PTR due to being out of town without my pc). Otherwise, the reward is a waste of time (in the current state).

[@Torguish]

@@dominikb9202 WHICH disappear after you leave the place. WHICH won't drop 100% of the time. WHICH THEN needs to be used ON ANOTHER COMPASS THAT YOU HAVE HOARDED INTO YOUR INVENTORY. WHICH MEANS you THEN need to have MULTIPLE COMPASSES: A set to run through to get scrolls & a set to upgrade upto tier 8. 8D Yeah the system is utter shit as it is now. Hoping blizzard listens to feedback.

[@dominikb9202]

@@Torguish 99.9% wont be able to run tier 8 anyway. Also I dont think its worse than getting keys for duriel which is by far worse. Getting the mats run graig run varshan with another set of mats and then you are able to do duriel. I got 2 compass from 3 chest worth 275. Abyss scrolls disappearing would be an issue. Rob got two scroll from 89 or fragments from the event. So I dont see the issue. Run helltide and then you can so nonstop events.

[@jasonlucia6682]

@@dominikb9202 5 gold chests and probably 5-6 others, no compass. the loot is shit, it shouldn't be that hard to run.

[@marcusjones1399]

The fact the odd team is facing heat again cracks me up. Shouldn’t enjoy it being that funny but I do

[@Riffraffgames]

Maybe we can just have Season 4 again.. with the re-summoning of bosses QOL added.

[@Ganking553]

I quit ptr it’s too much effort to test the important things to me, lots and lots of grinding on a test server is not my thing.

[@Truthseeker-iz3dj]

Without leaderboards the gear you earn doesn't really matter much anyways as your highest pushes aren't recorded. So may aswell do PTR or play hardcore.

[@TaylorM-dh3uu]

Yeah how do they not give you infinite everything and all items? They r dumb

[@b.g.4277]

Same, PTR for 4 was exciting. Logged into PTR for 5 and just not motivated. Burned out on D4 and nothing about this season is motivating me to play it.

[@danielmuller2695]

Needs an easier way to get the stuff you need to test on PTR. Testing in D3 was much easier.

[@vzwson4995]

It’s not even fun lol. It’s awful.

[@Desta2434]

What is their obsession with keys for everything? If I want to do an activity and play the game don’t make me do something else I don’t want to do.

[@andrewp979]

Yeah it's kind of crazy. Like, if you want me to play that other content, make it fun or rewarding... don't make it outright gate other things that I actually want to do

[@ssjnaruto3350]

Welcome to the live service model. Its sole purpose is to force you play as much as possible without making significant progress towards anything.

[@Coerced]

Artificial way to force more playtime and more randomness because it is believe those factors force engagement (and addiction).

[@Magnus-q7g]

@@ssjnaruto3350 Thats entirely not true you even play other live service games? PoE has an entire list of content to farm and it feels fun and rewarding. In D4 there's just not much of anything, and they constantly just want to artifically make you slow and take time for minimal things. I don't get why they're so obsessed with making the game horrible to play for what? Like we want to play for fun, we don't want to play just to play, this is ridiculous. I don't know what brain rot is in charge of making content and these horrible changes but that person has to go.

[@ssjnaruto3350]

@@Magnus-q7g id personally blame joe piepiora. Given all the past dev streams, seems like majority of negative factors are his doing.

[@Tarrimaster]

I think they should have left the Iron Wolves reputation in the game TBH. It was nice content while you level and set your character up nicely when you finished it.

[@SamuelBrady-n1d]

Oh man this is gone? It made levelling far more engaging and streamlined for early game. I hope they revert this as the theme of iron wolves versus the hell tide fits the game regardless of the seasonal theme.

[@dolo2233]

Is there another way for us to farm sparks without the iron wolves rank system?? If not then yea they definitely need to add it back. Gives us unlucky players a way to at least add a shako or starless to our build each season

[@morris6174]

LOL in S4 I created three characters with the sole purpose to finish the iron wolves quest and obtain the resplendent spark, so that I could craft the first shako I've ever had XD

[@dolo2233]

@@morris6174 that's exactly why I've been playing this entire time. I'm working on my 4th character now and if I have time I'll make some throwaway characters for more sparks. They need to keep this system or add a new one each season that's similar

[@glansberry]

I have farmed 24-25 sparks this season! I have a method, avg around 6-7 hours per spark (5-6 with power leveling boost from a friend). I may do a video on my method TBD (been leveling this way since season 3). I am hoping they introduce new mythics with the dlc, which I can transmute after the dlc goes eternal. Because we all know, that without the Iron Wolves… us casual gamers are screwed on mythic drop rates. Edit: I prefer playing the leveling/spark content than mind-numbing pit farming (or future horde wave gameplay). Throughout all of season 3, I found 3x mythics ALL from NMD’s and Vaults (ZERO from Ubers with 200+ runs). F-that, waste of my time farming boss mats etc. S4 has been more favorable at Tormentrd Zir (3x mythics in around 50 runs). And, lol I got lucky and found a shako at level 55 in WT4 from the Blood Maiden.

[@CityBelowtheSea]

At this point, it might honestly be time to fire the odd team and let the even team work on the game full time for seasons even if that means seasons are longer. Like clockwork the odd season update is a disaster and it’s getting old this yin and yang of good and bad season updates.

[@renektonerinoonlyrino6773]

they mixed both teams, so there isnt really the og odd season team. its a ptr, its there for testing and feedback.

[@pr0adam]

😂

[@hiddenxalpha7053]

@@renektonerinoonlyrino6773 So both teams are bricked now, siiiiiiick

[@dok2k33]

As expected. Season “5” is an odd number. Bad devs team.

[@derdofe4225]

As expected. Trash comments in a D4 video.

[@steelewearinc6140]

You’re not wrong.

[@NeCoNLive]

AGREED!! hope they make the new content more solo friendly!

[@ChristianHeid7]

The FULL focus on this PTR should be on class and build balance. Blizzard has the numbers but is doing nothing to fix things. In terms of the new endgame system... Again... focus on CLASS and BUILD BALANCE to make the content actually meaningful. And difficuly or rewards should not be punishing solo vs group play either. Each class should AT LEAST have 1 build that is within 5% of every other class in terms of efficiency. And every build that BLIZZARD has made VIABLE in the game should be withing 5-10% of other builds for the same class. This is a MUST and game is still miles of getting close to this in the past seasons.

[@CraZYGeniusLim]

it's pretty obvious that the even season team and the odd season team don't talk to each other.

[@danielmuller2695]

What do you mean? The teams responisble for season 2 & 4 and the other one for 3 & 5?

[@steelewearinc6140]

@@danielmuller2695they said back in a campfire chat that there are two teams split between even and odd seasons. And the track record of season 1,3,and now 5 were horrible. 2,4 were fun

[@pablothefable]

@@steelewearinc6140 "and now 5" it's still some ways off, at least with it being a PTR they'll be able to act on feedback before the season starts

[@steelewearinc6140]

@@pablothefable well based on the ptr from 4 it’s going to take a lot more then gated events. And colors and sounds to make this season good. The ptr is trash and from the previous ptr they didn’t implement much from the feed back given from ptr to season start.

[@pablothefable]

@@steelewearinc6140 most of the feedback from S4 as far as I recall was quite good, so they wouldn't change much anyway. If people are saying S5 PTR isn't great they're going to have to fix it asap. I'm happy they're trying to add something to the endgame because pushing levels on the Pit is as shallow an endgame as I can think of and the only good drops come from the blood maiden which you'll have been farming since lvl 1 anyway.

[@Eas_Planeswalker]

Sad to see bosses. Was hoping for ever increasing waves so aoe builds have a way to shine. We already have game modes for st builds

[@SuhandiWijaya]

Woke up in the morning tried the Infernal Horde, then realized just a copy of the D3 or PoE wave of monster thingy then went back to sleep. Then realized again this is the ODD season 5. See you guys on season 6 🤣

[@danielmuller2695]

Yeah seems like both of the teams have different builds they are working on. With some issues/bugs coming back that were in S3.

[@SuhandiWijaya]

@@danielmuller2695 there seem to be a big disconnect between these two teams. You can see the difference in quality.

[@danielmuller2695]

@@SuhandiWijaya But the team of S3 and S5 has probably the task to create new mechanics/end game systems. Nonetheless D4 points in the right direction.

[@AlexandraSpeaks]

Diablo 4 is starting to feel like an amusement park in the worst possible way, everything requires a ticket to ride just let me do something without an entry fee please

[@Booshista]

that place is the shop.

[@4D_SpaceTime]

they are going the POE route ..

[@zachfern3190]

​@@4D_SpaceTime this is the exact OPPOSITE of PoE

[@Aaron-zl5gq]

that's blizzard for you, its why i want them to move away from season garbage there so inconsistent and bad at it across all games.

[@jordongee2347]

​@@Booshista😂😂 I literally came to comment the same thing. Tip my hat.

[@SilkStorm_101]

Met the Butcher in a NMD and he had at least 10x the hit points and was by far the hardest fight in any dungeon

[@GregorioGaliana]

What the hell are the people who make the odd numbered seasons thinking ? The malignant hearts were not well received, the mecha-spider pet was a total failure and now this! At least they did a PTR this time. Let’s hope they listen to you guys!

[@R-E-D-U]

Blue hp bar make sense, if you are in a pack of mobs it might be hard to tell what hp bar is yours if it was red. I have wanted a hp bar above player forever.

[@CJM738]

Thanks for the feedback

[@NeCoNLive]

Maiden does not feel rewarding anymore :( without the profane mindcage buff.

[@Frexuz]

I'm partially color blind, and the blue party health bar is so nice. I don't see the red ones well, and the game itself is already very red-ish. Blue is good :D

[@zacharyvestal4430]

I thought the thumbnail said “$5 PTR” and after everything I’ve heard so far I believed it lol

[@bighammer3464]

Ok odd team. We only have $5 budget for this season as I’ve taken a fat bonus for the great work we’ve done. Any ideas for season 5? Burnt out dev 1: ya I found this crayola box and saw that there actually are more colors and I kinda like this purple color. It’s really just red with some blue mixed in and we can add this to the game. Meh dev 2: I’ve been playing vampire survivor during work hours recently and thought we could also add this to the game but with way less abilities 😂

[@ClydeStokley]

We always joke about Blizzard not playtesting...but for real: do they play this at all before releasing?

[@Drauku85]

Based on the gameplay of workers from all their new livestreams and campfires there's maybe 1 or 2 devs with any type of skill in the game cause they were former content creators. Most of their testers seem like they've never played a game before.

[@thisishowthetruthdies684]

I'd been having the most fun that I've had playing Bash/Bleed and Heartseeker and now on PTR not so much. I can't even find/farm the uniques or mats to try something else because for reason unknown they kept the drop rates so low and anything over Pit 71 boss is basically a no go.

[@beingbeyonddat]

They're balancing the difficulty based on what barbs have been doing with their characters and those high pits. I think that before looking to make further changes to the pit they should really make all other classes as powerful as barb, which in my opinion is a well designed class because it actually does hardest content. All classes should be at that power level, then we can talk about the pit.

[@la7era1u54]

I'm not expecting much. The dev team that made this is the team from New York that does all the odd numbered seasons, and every season they make sucks

[@Deffine]

New York? Yikes, too much "odd" people there. ;)

[@MrMuggsly]

So blizzard has said they have 2 teams working on seasons so they sort of leapfrog each other. I am sure that is why these issues pop up because the teams are not working together but independent of one another.

[@danielmuller2695]

Yeah seems like they are working on different builds and not on the last state of the game. Or why would some issues/bugs from S3 come back.

[@EthanBeattie-wh4zx]

Yeah, I agree. Especially with the pit boss health getting re-buffed. I suspect the Odd Team was developing on a season 3 build, and just implanted an old version of the pit from before the nerf.

[@Deffine]

@@danielmuller2695 Lmao, they need to get their head in order.

[@UrHumanShield]

Which is incredibly stupid. The dev teams refuses to talk to each other.

[@MadsFeierskov]

I really hope they don't make the pit harder without buffing the rewards. If you have to do several hard runs to upgrade one level on one piece of gear, it's going to get really tiring.

[@ohno7582]

Pit is already way too grindy for the final 4 tiers. It needs a buff to loot as it stands not to mention if they buff difficulty again..

[@mattc9556]

With the amount of heat that Blizzard have incurred in the past for appearing to not test their content prior to releasing, this does nothing to help their rep. Looks like a bug fest. Surely a company of their size can afford a few game testers (true gamers) to provide feedback. Reinforces the theory that they work to a release date and whatever the state of things, it’s shipped regardless. With the amount of care that Gear Grinding Games are putting into POE2, this kind of workmanship from Blizzard will be showcased in an even worse light upon POE2’s release. Free game that works as intended vs a continual coding mess.

[@haylonix]

Blizzard probably should have done a minor placeholder S5 before expansion. Glad you guys are there sorting it out again. S4 was much much better thanks to the PTR gamers.

[@miragegaming984]

Why limit it to 5 waves? Why not do endless? 5 waves, option to cash out. Another 5 waves, another option to cash out. You get nothing if you fail. Risk reward. Go to wave 20 if you are strong enough for better rewards if you are stronk enough.

[@Coerced]

D4 keeps reminding me of that video of a former Blizz game developer talking about how Blizz has changed and all passionate and talented people are long gone

[@Dayemon]

The D4 team needs to have an emergency meeting with the D3 team to learn how to do a PTR the right way. I'm not going to test anything if I have to grind for it in a PTR.

[@MrGrim2u1987]

Why d3 was the worst in Diablo history..

[@Autruxx3]

​@@MrGrim2u1987still better than d4

[@bouidge]

Reading the comments its look like its the uneven season curse all over again. 1 doodoo 2 good 3 doodoo 4 great 5 facerip

[@danielmuller2695]

Season 6 with exp is going to be amazing

[@olliebeast1012]

They could take inspiration from the Tower of Chaos in Chaosbane and it would map on almost directly to this new hell tier mechanic thing. The Tower was actually pretty fun in Chaosbane. Would also love to see something like Void Crusades from Inquisitor: Martyr.

[@Draga01]

You think the Even-Team looks at the Odd-Season changes and go "FFS, WE JUST FIXED THAT!" 🤔?

[@wilsonjp23]

@Wudijo I tested the totem dagger and you are not able to apply crowd control effects to the totems. I also did not observed any double dipping or self replicating echoes. It was a little underwhelming.

[@flo5865]

meanwhile sorc has fun in pit 60

[@watersekirei5035]

Wait a moment! They added health bar & mana bar?! The visibility of maximum mana indicator (the white dot) looks good too! Big Yes to me. If they add options for adjusting size & color of these bars, it will be perfect!

[@Faifaaa]

I thought a PTR should have some sort of NPC that you can buy items/gear from so that you can test different builds. Now we're farming tempering manuals and scrolls that hardly drop. Also no idea why they would reduce the drop rate of the hearts in helltide. In the server that I play on, it's either bots not contributing to the hearts or people just looking at each other waiting for someone to insert the heart.

[@DK-zw4vv]

The best is currently in the Grimm down. After 3 rounds you have a boss and after the boss you can continue deeper or left with current loot rewards

[@fruitdealer_R34L]

Season Team Odd strikes again

[@ytubestolemyhandle]

Had fun in season 4, so I guess I can skip S5 and only come back for S6 again. Seems like the tmogs from battlepass for S5 all suck too, so why bother.

[@Deffine]

@@ytubestolemyhandle S6 will be the gamechanger anyways. Game balance will be changed in very different ways than it is now with Expansion.

[@andreiga76]

If this arena stuff is all they will have for season 5, even if they make it easier to get hearts/scrolls, it will be a failed season. I have 3 hearts in my inventory and I don't care to use them, did one run and it was boring as hell. Maybe, a big maybe, if they make rewards much bigger compared to pit/hell tides/bosses, I will squeeze some runs, otherwise pass like I'm doing for gauntlet.

[@andrewskidmore9955]

Have you done a build video for the build in the video?

[@treysturdevant1933]

Wudijo what are your views on the malignant hearts? I wish they would reintroduce then into the game as a permanent thing or atleast give us “legendary” gems to put into the jewelry. I do believe resistances are important and should be kept so giving us the option to include damage output material into the gems slots would make you have to decide between those and actually having resistances. It’d be a nice trade off. That being said the PTR looks like it’s filling its role and showing us the dumpster fire that we will be walking into and hopefully they can get it resolved

[@rotony1]

I'm glad we can see other party members lines and pins on the minimap and see the purple beam when a Uber unique drop but still no tempting fix.. Priorities right?

[@kostistsiutras4373]

who the fck was in charge of the design and the backbone of this event? He MUST be livin on Marsh, he managed to fail on literally every single step of this activity design and concept. Im gonna leave this here > Invest 30-40 BILLIONS of gold to make a triple ga Min maxed build and farm for infinite hours to get crappy materials then fight for 1 hour IN A GROUP to get two items with a single GA. WHO ON A MANAGING POSITION OF THE DEV TEAM APPROVED IT ACTUALLY?? Blows my mind. It feels more like a poorely designed last minute "Activity" to keep us busy with no gains whatsoever for 2 months OR that this activity was designed just enough to cover up the GIGA NERFS that happened and keep player numbers from goin down once again, either way Clueless ppl for sure. Reply

[@corey0tucker0ct]

Can anyone tell me if they have seen the +hydra heads manual yet? I have not seen it.

[@Morfus1128]

I would love you to address the math behind how Victimize is doing so little damage. My tooltip says 1700x % and its doing less dmg than the skill that proced it.

[@p0l4r23]

Elemental damage feels stronger. Specifically lightning damage.

[@kydelastra]

I've seen the loading screen show a seneschal bot from S3 a few times. Let's compare S3 with S5 ptr: 1. Farm materials to run? Check 2. Gather materials to select a reward at the end? Check 3. Very low rewards at the start? Check 4. Confusing/slow progress system for the mechanics? Check Coincidence? Maybe

[@abelgonzalez158]

I just wanna know when they fix sorcerers......................

[@manuelhernandez2017]

Fix, they will fix sorc... By buffing barbs. Sorc builds must be next to a barb to survive and get more damage

[@deceiver3730]

I do like the story behind the theme for the season. I expected a valient last stand against the infernal horde, but instead found the hells to be more empty than Sanctuary. You get more density and better rewards for doing Helltides compared to the new Infernal Horde event. Especially considering you have to farm and upgrade the event it should be at least twice or more as rewarding compared to killing infernal maiden in helltides. I want to battle the horde of enemies Inarius and the church of light army fought or similar threat. I would suggest you change the event to never ending stream of enemies that either upgrade by kill count or increasing at set times (starting with small demons upgrading to larger ones, champions, elites, bosses etc). Make it tiers of difficulty how long you have to survive the infernal horde l. Tier 3 example survive 5 minutes with the difficulty of mobs ramping as time progresses in intervals (every 30 seconds or so ) tier 8 being surviving for 10 minutes before fighting council. Base rewards on time survived, hardcore characters would have to choose their tiers wisely. You could still do banes and boons, attack a mass, fill a soul well, or destroy an alter etc to modify waves or give bane and boon but I believe would be better while in combat. You could give mini objectives during the wave if you fail it then you get a bane otherwise you get a Boon if you succeed. I also like the idea of being cast out of hell after defeating the council by a prime evil something or by the council itself and being left with a reward. Not sure how the portal to escape makes sense otherwise. I believe a true survival mode would be really engaging, with truly endless waves to a time. Keeping the highest survival time around 10 minutes then plan for a 2-5 minute council fight depending on your character’s gear/progression.

[@moinquin]

Blizzard cant make small season fun and without bugs, but peaople still pre order expansion. That's crazy

[@andregoepfert2745]

At least expansion comes on even numbered season ;)

[@janpesek4862]

I would not worry about accessibility to new mode, PTR is there to cache and fix those type of issues. New mode needs to bé rewarding and easily accessible to break monotonous gameplay loop from Season 4--Helltide forever mixed with som Pit for upgrade materials when Helltide blessed KZbin with gear. And change to Pit boss difficulty need to bé balanced against increased rewards. Pit as is now is fine for farming materials but it is unrewarding when it comes to gear. I do not mind more mechanics from torment bosses to be added to PIT as long as frequency of those attacks is toned down.

[@Betta82TV]

iYes, i have request. i am curious about golem build and how it perform

[@Teddimon]

Coldclip Aspect DOES NOT proc Eldritch Bounty despite making basic skill "as always cold imbued" (it should have be counted "when you attack with an imbued skill").

[@Jdiroe]

1.The new endgame Hoard mode is not fun to grind 2.tons of bugs like enemies taking no damage and getting stuck in walls 3.Pit bosses either get one shot or take next to no damage 4.not to mention the classes feel less powerful than before but that’s maybe due to the bugs

[@feuph]

But i guess the sound effect is awesome. God damn that fking sound. How about differentiating double and triple gas mini icons? The bugs? No? Just a fancy word for ubers and a freaking sound effect fr fr

[@smjkxsnoopy]

I was hoping you would find the new sword with the totem for testing. I am testing Andy’s flurry w some new aspects. I found the sword in helltides and it is super fun! I don’t have lot of crit damage or vuln since my build doesn’t require those stats but my damage is ticking around 250-300 million with the new unique. Hopefully it doesn’t get nerfed too badly

[@PevecG-qt9dl]

Infernal hordes - so just one more thing to farm for nothing. at least farming pit gives you upgrades for masterworking, so you have to farm that. but this thing - who is this made for?

[@MrFirefox365]

I was really hoping they would have more boosts because my character had no stygian stones, and I only had 2 resplendent sparks so I could barely test builds or farm ubers and I'm not about to run hrs worth of pits to get a few stones.

[@osbtm1258]

Its not hard to understand why they added stacks to pit boss. some classes are so tanky the boss becomes a tank and spank. Its to nerf barbs basically

[@Herbit00]

When does BETA end??

[@felipefarias4868]

Let me get it straight once and for all. as long as these bad decisions makers don’t being replaced the game will continue to be bad. Season 42-/ nice for certain classes and builds and that’s it. The game in it’s core is just bad. they do something good and manage to ruin it. It feels like they really don’t want to make the game good. and try to “save” qol changes for patches and season to attract people.

[@RobertLesterDodd]

I quit Season 4, which was a vast improvement admittedly, when I realized that there was no real way to farm greater affix gear. When the best way to get tons of loot while GA fishing is just sitting in helltides killing the maiden over and over, it's time to wait for the next season.

[@Gharon]

After all this time and all the failures you'd think they would finally get a grip on how to balance stuff so it's not overly grindy or boring right out the gate. Minor tweaks and all that sure, that's what tests and the PTR is for i guess, but it really feels like every mechanic they put into the game first needs 10 iterations before it's even close to acceptable levels. I know they said it's mandatory for their devs to play the game for a set amount of hours a week, it just doesn't feel like they actually do otherwise a lot of these issues wouldn't even make it to a PTR. Their number crunchers apparantly aren't crunching hard enough.

[@anthonylowe8819]

Damn Diablo you had us in the first half not gonna lie 😂 how can you possibly go backwards at this point it’s crazy.

[@Aaron-zl5gq]

what do you mean? the Diablo team has been doing this crap since launch, blizzard does this shit all the time, its one of the biggest issues with WoW, they constantly go 2 steps forward 1 step back.

[@feldon27]

Odd team strikes again. Thank God there's a PTR so they can fix it now instead of a week of emergency patches after emergency patches like the season of the boring metal dog.

[@sincacetona8112]

could you let me know how can you have 7 imbue skills?

[@ZarteHaferflocke]

If they leave the pit boss this strong glhf farm mastercraft mats only to test some builds in the ptr

[@zader39]

Blizzard: We noticed S4 brought some players back to the game. This was obviously unintended. S5 will get the ship back on course steering towards the iceberg.

[@Dwellerinshadow]

Pretty much how I feel about it... It's like they *want* people to leave -_-

[@RafaelW8]

* Blizzard sneezes * Wudi: HEY EVERYONE

[@drdynanite]

It's called being a content creator with your income being defined by your channel performance.

[@markxv2267]

Blizzard is not a person

[@steveozone4910]

I'll leave the sweats test the PTR. I'll just complain about what's broken in season 5 lol

[@giveemhellmike6956]

How can they permanetly fuck up all their changes...even tho its ptr...nothing works like it should be and half of it isnt when it comes live...

[@Essemlol]

Its the same issue that Simulacrum has in PoE right. Wave 1-30 where only the last 10 is any challenge.

[@MrMazvaz]

Instead of buffing content I wish blizz would rework [x]% damage multipliers and make a system for where/how they are available. Now it feels like buildcrafting is all about scouring your codex, boards, trees and inventory for multipliers and jamming as many as you can into your build. There is no room for fun interactions or synergies as if you miss a few multipliers it will severely impact your effectiveness, as most content is balanced based on absolutely bonkers abuse of ridiculous ways of multiplying your damage exponentially. I really think this could alleviate class balance issues as well like barb getting access to upto 4x more multipliers than other classes because of having more weapons. Imo no aspects or tempers should give stats that multiply your damage. Like bash cleave, Multicasts, dot durations etc. Instead multicasts, dot durations and the likes could come from over-skilling your abilities. E.g having 8 points in chain lightning would make it have 60% chance to cast twice. Or having 8 points in flay would give it 60% increased duration. Only more static things like paragon, skill tree, class mechanics and uber uniques should have flat multipliers. Regular uniques can have very conditional multipliers.

[@bobbehr9177]

Now that apparently the Uber bosses were buffed for sure

[@kevinmann2154]

Glad we have a ptr and a good community to test it. Keep it up.

[@redi4871]

Maybe they made Pit harder to compensate for a season power system..

[@PhrazeMuzik]

Two teams working on different versions of the game is how I presume these silly bugs make it under the radar.

[@HakujooX]

Seems like with season 5 being shortened anyway with the expansion releasing, might as well just wait for season 6.

[@darkomajstorovic5719]

I would rly like if there was an option to enlarge the health bar of enemy, so the sneaky lil ones arent so sneaky anymore😏

[@UltracoreUltraUranium]

Moze mini-grenade skill from BL3 with the totem. Crit with totem then those explosion crits can Crit😮

[@b.banner_hulk6867]

The torment stacks are literally one of the only things I hate. You should be able to invest enough time into a character to eventually tank a mechanic. The torment stacks make this impossible because no amount of gear will save you and you die. If that's in the PIT then probably not going to play the season.

[@brettlewis2900]

No one will run tier 8 infernal hordes in it's current state. Huge time sink for almost no rewards. You can just kill blood maiden 10-15 times and get items with a ga that much quicker (and open boxes). The tier 8 box at the end needs to be a guaranteed 2-3 ga item and 1ga+ unique to even make it worthwile. Otherwise i don't see anyone doing it for ga farming.

[@georgeb1298]

tormented stacks are good for the game. people will just have to get good and start dodging a bit instead of facetanking everything.

[@Tobez]

Blizzard: "Hey I need you to test drive this car we made. Only, the car can't go above 30mph, the power steering doesn't work and occasionally the car will refuse to start. But yeah! Give it a test drive and give us some feedback!" I jest but kinda D4 PTR in a nutshell sometimes

[@Quel_droma]

Dying to a boss in Pits & NM dungeons gives them like 99 torment stacks, it's like they have 99% less hp on the second attempt.

[@ayufever1978]

seeing the new rogue unique dagger effect do over 4 billion damage just means the sorc will get extra nerfs 😔

[@N0belz]

Which are absolutely needed! Sorc is absloute op! Need ice armor nerf asp and teleport more cd

[@chouGnoul]

@@N0belz and add a 4 sec Cd on chain lightning enchant it was so OP ..

[@captainDexter987]

@@N0belz Teleport should have a 1 minute cool down and cost 50% life to use.

[@dasgnampf4156]

Now just imagine there was no PTR for this patch

[@kevinranders]

eeeek. that focus/benefit to group play is total excitement killer. Potentially skipping S5 I 'spose.

[@Rasudido]

I know better than to trust an odd numbered diablo 4 season

[@____GoMeZ____]

I’m really happy they’re trying to add challenge in the game. Tormented stacks is good. Greater Hp is good. More interesting boss fights were needed honestly. It gets boring asf when you one shot a boss. The game becomes completely mindless and meaningless

[@Aaron-zl5gq]

you got to keep in mind the 1000 hour players that 1 shot a boss doesn't represent the majority of the audience.

[@MrGrim2u1987]

​@@Aaron-zl5gq Very good statement...

[@RetedRacing]

Stop playing Barb and you won't feel that way.

[@paulkasram]

They nerfed the pit mid season 4 and they may have loaded the pre-nerfed version of the pit on the PTR.

[@pandemoniumgaming6344]

Love the feature of health above your character and hopefully resources as I have a real issue with looking down at my pools to check probably and ADHD issue with to much overstimulation going on but if I can just focus on my character on the screen that'll be so much better for me.

[@Ray-mq6cy]

R.I.P

[@Will-ik1cb]

To be fair, season five is a two month filler before VoH, and there are a load of new items and affixes to play with as well as the new mode, and possibly a season theme too. I find it weird that people get so wound up by a PTR 😂

[@thedropbear574]

Keys are only good for Uber bosses that drop a hellfire torch