'Diablo': A Classic Game Postmortem

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@Neocorey11
@Neocorey11 7 жыл бұрын
Blizzard died to me when they dropped Blizzard North. You and your team were the heart of that company and your absence shows today.
@pearz420
@pearz420 5 жыл бұрын
The North Remembers.
@avarilewang3992
@avarilewang3992 5 жыл бұрын
The north remembers
@d_no_allyn_86
@d_no_allyn_86 5 жыл бұрын
Most definitely
@xraymone
@xraymone 5 жыл бұрын
@Terminal Heights haha
@mrtoothless
@mrtoothless 5 жыл бұрын
@Terminal Heights Hi, Activision :)
@Aurumai
@Aurumai 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of if not the best GDC talk I've ever seen. Absolutely love hearing his enthusiasm for his craft and to hear the insight from an industry veteran. When Blizzard employed mostly people like David, it's no wonder that they set the golden standard for video game quality in their prime.
@phantomspaceman
@phantomspaceman 6 жыл бұрын
"We'd sell expansion packs like Magic the Gathering with 50 items on a disk." That came full circle didn't it?
@Murzac
@Murzac 5 жыл бұрын
Actually no, it just shows that this kind of mentality and will to do it already existed in the 90s but as he said, logistically it was just not possible. It wasn't until the internet became widespread enough and easily accessible for everyone and fast enough that it actually became possible to do.
@pancake8133
@pancake8133 4 жыл бұрын
Laughs in The Sims
@Daz86.
@Daz86. 4 жыл бұрын
mtx in 96.
@ChuckstaGaming
@ChuckstaGaming 4 жыл бұрын
@@Murzac Yeah, thanks to the internet, the world are now gamers! Back then, geeks were the gamers.
@nonchip
@nonchip 4 жыл бұрын
"but we quickly realized that'd be an issue" i wish publishers nowadays would realize the same...
@ColonelRPG
@ColonelRPG 8 жыл бұрын
This piece is awesome, thank you David Brevik for all the hard work and passion and commitment and the fantastic games and legacy, awesome panel!
@StephanieLoveful
@StephanieLoveful 8 жыл бұрын
10% for an office, David? :) - Im gonna invent telephone calls on internet (Skype)
@benprendergast9868
@benprendergast9868 7 жыл бұрын
but I already have a phone
@vladimircokorilo8105
@vladimircokorilo8105 5 жыл бұрын
It’s funny how he mentioned Primal Rage during the Claymation story, because one of the two T-rex characters is called Diablo, and the ape is called Blizzard...
@lucasblouin3322
@lucasblouin3322 5 жыл бұрын
Best comment thx
@Pavl9k
@Pavl9k 5 жыл бұрын
I always played as a Diablo, great game
@The-Esoteric-One
@The-Esoteric-One 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Diablo looked like Diablo too, in dino form, haha.
@stead6157
@stead6157 4 жыл бұрын
Wait, what the hell is this coincidence???
@VADYCAN
@VADYCAN 4 жыл бұрын
Wtf
@evangould1344
@evangould1344 Жыл бұрын
My guy knew he was gonna do a talk on Diablo and he didn't know so many people were going to be interested in it XD Over 1M views on KZbin and I'm here 7 years later still interested
@neoian94
@neoian94 8 жыл бұрын
Lol'd so hard when he goes " We weren't even paying our taxes, we found out that was a bad idea.."
@lolmysteries
@lolmysteries 5 жыл бұрын
I was the directing Manufacturing Engineer at Technicolor at the time, producing one Diablo disc every 7 seconds. Aside from Microsoft 95 and 98, Blizzard was our second largest account at that time. Still have a few prototype Diablo and Diablo II discs in various stages of production, with gorgeous silkscreened artwork in 1 to 6 color prints.
@MontuOnuphrius
@MontuOnuphrius 5 жыл бұрын
pics or it didn't happen
@AnonymoStranger
@AnonymoStranger 4 жыл бұрын
@Dam Sen Yeah I don't think they have a need to prove anything to you or anyone else online lol
@Pan_Z
@Pan_Z 4 жыл бұрын
Still no pics. Guess it's a fake
@REgamesplayer
@REgamesplayer 4 жыл бұрын
@Dam Sen Your sceptisism is blown way out of proportion. People are not inclined to tell such random lies and such information often appears in comments as people who worked on those projects are really interested in googling themselves so to say. Furthermore, those comments often put interesting trivia information which otherwise is hard to fake. It is possible, yes, but a troll won't speak with such passion and attention to seemingly insignificant details about its development. What you people do here is just refuse to learn on pretense that someone is lying to you.
@REgamesplayer
@REgamesplayer 4 жыл бұрын
@Dam Sen Because of small scale and lack of gain and insider knowledge. Faking twitter account, pretending to be someone on the internet has at least entertainment value, but writing a random comment on youtube? The best you gonna get are potential upvotes for your comment and you actually have to put a lot of effort into faking such comment. In my experience, I never saw anyone pretending to be someone they are not on youtube. Like in a sense they are dev and tell what had happened behind the scenes. What I do see however is people coming up with wake stories about what had happened. The difference between these two is, one person says who he is or what his role is and then writes a comment about subject at hand, giving more insights into what happened which is not in a video. Person who pretends to know usually says a negative that this or that did not happened without going into any details. As for Life of Lucifer, he told a very minor thing, that when he was printing CDs, Diablo was extremely in demand at his factory. Now, here is a catch. Video said that Diablo received a massive endorsement from Diretx as free demo disc. Then you have another clue that Diablo was extremely popular game in its time. It is not hard to believe what he is saying, because it extends what video is saying from a different angle which nobody had thought about. Also, lying about working in disc making factory? Like, not only this is extremely creative, but also person has absolutely nothing to gain by creating such sophisticated lies. Your average troll is rarely sophisticated in his knowledge and intellect.
@Dovah21
@Dovah21 5 жыл бұрын
3 years later, the original Diablo is re-released on GOG. I am a happy man.
@skilllmatic
@skilllmatic 5 жыл бұрын
i just played it through. still kicks ass!
@Mradevans
@Mradevans 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Diablo was my introduction to gaming, and now it's time to start my daughter on computers and games
@ON-nk5of
@ON-nk5of 5 жыл бұрын
@@Mradevans I skipped a heartbeat from excitement. Oh how I love the game's ability to convey atmosphere.
@Dovah21
@Dovah21 4 жыл бұрын
@Interpersonal Communicator Hey man, some things in life are worth paying for. Namely, Classic Diablo.
@Mauro0
@Mauro0 4 жыл бұрын
@Interpersonal Communicator don't be a cheap bastard. If you want something, pay for it or make it yourself.
@mattmcluhan252
@mattmcluhan252 8 жыл бұрын
my mom saw the pentagrams in diablo and made me throw it away. so when i got it again i was careful never to start the game or pause the game in her presence.
@MsFlamingFlamer
@MsFlamingFlamer 8 жыл бұрын
Matt McLuhan 😂😂😂😂😂
@JonathanGannSLOOT
@JonathanGannSLOOT 7 жыл бұрын
Matt McLuhan I too had this problem as I was raised in a very strict fundamentalist Christian household but I found that if you used the pause/break key instead of esapce to pause, it would just tint the screen red and said paused in the middle.
@TacDyne
@TacDyne 5 жыл бұрын
Funny how different people regard religion. A church we were helping fix up a long time ago had a pastor who played Diablo in his office.
@googleinc6033
@googleinc6033 5 жыл бұрын
My mother didnt want me to play age of empire because they had priests.
@Lobiach
@Lobiach 5 жыл бұрын
Same
@timokampwerth1996
@timokampwerth1996 4 жыл бұрын
More post mortems need to be like this. self aware humor, tons of information and a very sympathetic speaker who values passion for his work over public speaking skills. Who cares if he umm-uuh's his way through most of it, he has so much passion for what he created with Diablo!
@TheBG077
@TheBG077 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you Daivd for all of your hard work and sacrifices in making such a great game! PLEASE come back and do another one of these for Diablo 2!!
@necrojustice
@necrojustice 7 жыл бұрын
The mandolin from Diablo 1 might be the best gaming soundtrack I've ever heard.
@nickwallette6201
@nickwallette6201 3 жыл бұрын
I wrote Blizzard back in 90-something, and asked if they had a soundtrack available. I have to paraphrase the response here, because it's been a minute.... The music dep't answered (see what I mean about it being a long time ago?): "we don't, sorry, but thanks so much for asking - it's quite the compliment."
@BL00DYME55
@BL00DYME55 8 ай бұрын
@@nickwallette6201 Aww, back when Blizzard was ran by actual human beings, and not soulless corporate NPCs
@calumryan6328
@calumryan6328 8 жыл бұрын
Telling a story: "uh, um, so we, uh. Uh. uh." Talking about complex programming: flawless
@melhorespod
@melhorespod 7 жыл бұрын
hahahahaah
@Gunth0r
@Gunth0r 5 жыл бұрын
note how the sound is like talking inside a well. some sound guy fucked up or someone sabotaged him. hearing yourself like that would make any speaker nervous
@Gunth0r
@Gunth0r 5 жыл бұрын
@@supplebiscuit then we should blame the architect / venue manager? No, seriously, proper sound guys should be able to handle that.
@Gunth0r
@Gunth0r 5 жыл бұрын
@@supplebiscuit and that, ladies and gents, is a failure of imagination (and know-how). There's things called: - filters - threshold - soundproofing - a proper lavelier mic that doesn't pick up the echo There's a ton of stuff you can do...
@Gunth0r
@Gunth0r 5 жыл бұрын
@@supplebiscuit threshold is a thing, if we're talking in general terms, but gates is what I meant (I'm no expert). And you can soundproof with painted egg boxes for all I care (no need for expensive stuff), it'll attenuate the sound reasonably well in combination with the lavelier. And no, that's not the only thing I said that made sense. I didn't mean to antagonize you, apologies. However, you just admitted there's no need for breaking the laws of physics, basically making our whole discussion moot. And yes, it is about imagination as well as acoustics (I do know enough physics and equipment to know about acoustics which enables me to *imagine* how one could improve the sound in that venue, which was my original intent, to help promote better sound by critiquing). Hyperbole and frustrations on both our parts? /hug
@Anonyminder
@Anonyminder 7 жыл бұрын
Legendary developer of a legendary game, huge respect to David and the Blizzard North team!
@Inogat
@Inogat 8 жыл бұрын
the end is awesome, when the guy comes in and give the money, that's great !
@meyakabrown4725
@meyakabrown4725 8 жыл бұрын
At 58:41. Ya that was amazing.
@ripoutyourprejudice
@ripoutyourprejudice 8 жыл бұрын
Kinda cringy, but awesome at the same time.
@Novous
@Novous 8 жыл бұрын
I thought it was kind of sweet.
@andrewsparkes6115
@andrewsparkes6115 7 жыл бұрын
Should've given HIM that copy of the game! People are allowed to make personal backup 'pirates' so long as they have paid for a copy, so it'd be metaphorically, literally and legally wiping the slate clean.
@AutodidacticPhd
@AutodidacticPhd 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that is easily one of the most entertaining things I've seen in these talks. I actually knew a band that would take a tip jar with the sign "Pirate Forgiveness Fund" (or something) on it. They swore they got more money in that jar than they actually got selling merch at some shows. I later heard that once they got a contract that their publisher made them take down the sign...
@stephendavenport316
@stephendavenport316 7 жыл бұрын
Definitely feeding off of the energy this guy is giving off! He's nervous as hell but you can tell he's so passionate. Awesome presentation.
@JasonTorpy
@JasonTorpy 7 жыл бұрын
If David Brevik asks you if you want his copy of Diablo. You say YES!!!
@TAURON85
@TAURON85 4 жыл бұрын
IKR. WTH was wrong with that guy?! Lol
@SalveMonesvol
@SalveMonesvol 4 жыл бұрын
I'd have him sign it, sell it for thousands and use that to afford playing diablo for a couple of months, or developping something
@ankixsounds
@ankixsounds 4 жыл бұрын
@@SalveMonesvol XD
@omikronweapon
@omikronweapon 4 жыл бұрын
Personally, I would have given the game to the guy who paid for his original pirated copy. Get together just after for a photo-op. Sign it. mutual respect. Make a great story for the game press. "guilt-ridden gamer finally gets chance to pay for pirated Diablo 1, is rewarded signed, sealed copy from creator"
@Alkis05
@Alkis05 4 жыл бұрын
He was shaming the guy, because he was trying to bad mouth his former employer. The guy had the good sense of not embarrassing himself anymore than that.
@superduperjew
@superduperjew 8 жыл бұрын
They need Blizzard North for the next Diablo game. Look what happened without them.
@hellinterface6721
@hellinterface6721 8 жыл бұрын
right. What a fucking joke D3 was. But then again has any video game been that decent recently aside from darksouls? The gaming world is a steaming pile of shit now.
@Sem5626
@Sem5626 8 жыл бұрын
yeah thats what happens when you ignore the hard fan base and concentrate on making it more playable by everyone
@getrekt8365
@getrekt8365 8 жыл бұрын
40 million or so copies sold of a piece of shit.
@stratotega
@stratotega 8 жыл бұрын
diablo 3 and thief being the biggest disappointments
@viking_II
@viking_II 8 жыл бұрын
Diablo 3: 30 million (due to Diablo 2 fame). Reaper of Souls: 3 million (due to Diablo 3 delusion). Do your maths.
@Siaynoq8
@Siaynoq8 8 жыл бұрын
I remember upgrading our ram fro 8mb to 16mb and suddenly Diablo was running totally smooth for me.
@UltromanTheTacoman
@UltromanTheTacoman 7 жыл бұрын
That moment when you finally popped in a Voodoo (3Dfx) card, and your game jumped from 25fps to 250fps!
@akse
@akse 6 жыл бұрын
Had similar experience in Diablo 2 when I upgraded from 64Mb to 128Mb :) Suddenly all the HDD lag was gone when loading new areas and such.
@SoftBreadSoft
@SoftBreadSoft 5 жыл бұрын
I bought Diablo and was crushed when I couldn't play it with 4mb memory LOL.
@xdeathsrk
@xdeathsrk 5 жыл бұрын
I remember "playing" D2 before we upgraded our pc, right around the time we got cable internet. Whenever I broke the last seal in Chaos Sanctuary, I had to wait for literally 25 minutes while Diablo spawned. I spent more time waiting than actually playing the game. 😅 Luckily we upgraded just before LoD hit. 👍
@Microphunktv-jb3kj
@Microphunktv-jb3kj 4 жыл бұрын
@@UltromanTheTacoman Lmao yeah.. voodoo 3dfx.. i was about to say my friend had it in crossfire lol :D sick stuff... UT 99 went from lagging in software graphics i think... to fucking something like a game from the far future... my eyes almost popped out of my socket from amazement... these young generations will never experience the shit what we did, tech evolved so fucking fast, that every year u were.. "Wow!" :D i think i havent had any wow effects in gaming for a decade+ already... last time something felt next level to me was dota2 closed beta.. and before that like world of warcraft launch lol... ;> Ur comment suggest u def played unreal tournament loool : ))) i remember also my friend bought entire new pc to play that game where u could slow down time ;D - Max Payne 2: :D damn how shit it looks nowdays haha.. Rumours has it.. max payne 2 drops to 15fps on Xbox... loooooooooooooooooooooooool :D
@plume852
@plume852 6 жыл бұрын
Man, I love these Postmortems, it's so inspiring and fun to see legends retell their zero to hero style stories with so much passion.
@mikeyoung9810
@mikeyoung9810 8 жыл бұрын
Man I loved that game. No sequel or game has matched that feeling I get still to this day when I hear the music and see the game.
@petertimowreef9085
@petertimowreef9085 8 жыл бұрын
I'm not a very hardcore gamer and I've never even played Diablo, but this enire thing was very interesting. It's just a joy to listen to friendly people who know what they're talking about.
@PleasestopcallingmeDoctorImath
@PleasestopcallingmeDoctorImath 8 жыл бұрын
Peter Timowreef thats why i listen to full, accurately subtitled hitler speeches
@petertimowreef9085
@petertimowreef9085 8 жыл бұрын
And how would you know the subtitles are accurate? Piss off with your hitler jokes.
@petertimowreef9085
@petertimowreef9085 8 жыл бұрын
***** Did you really think that I thought German was a dead language...? Really..? Point is that when you don't speak German there's not really a way to know if the subtitles are accurate.
@petertimowreef9085
@petertimowreef9085 8 жыл бұрын
***** If that were the case the adjective "accurately subtitled" he used would be redundant. The fact he used it indicates that apparently he believes there also badly translated subtitles available, which he was able to avoid. Why are you defending someone who jokes around about a man who said horrible things?
@erelane451
@erelane451 7 жыл бұрын
Read this en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law, never take someone serious when they bring up Hitler they're more of a statistic than holding an actual argument, and a troll.
@jhl248
@jhl248 8 жыл бұрын
27:44 Probably one of the most beautiful moments in game development history.
@tehjamerz
@tehjamerz 6 жыл бұрын
Actually it's all history
@Helmutlozzi
@Helmutlozzi 7 жыл бұрын
I will always hate neo-blizzard for calling Mr. Brevik a loser. RIP Diablo franchise.
@vOddy75
@vOddy75 6 жыл бұрын
What a rude thing to say. When was this?
@hellishinc
@hellishinc 6 жыл бұрын
@@vOddy75 Jay "bitch boy" Wilson. David made a comment saying he didn't think d3 was a good diablo game. Jay responded with "fuck that loser".
@PauloAM
@PauloAM 6 жыл бұрын
@@hellishinc damn! and the loser was right, so joke's on bitch boy
@gustru2078
@gustru2078 5 жыл бұрын
@Terminal Heights Yeah sure, people bought it thinking it would be good because of diablo 2 and pretty much everyone was disappointed. It got high sales but that's it. I played Diablo 2 for many years and still do sometimes. I stopped playing Diablo 3 after less than a year though and didn't bother with the expansion. That's how good D3 is. Regardless of the context of Brevik saying he didn't think D3 was good, he was right.
@Splatterpunk_OldNewYork
@Splatterpunk_OldNewYork 5 жыл бұрын
Diablo 1 will go down in history as the greatest game Beside Doom. Calling this man anything other than Genius is not using his proper title. Peasants always have opinions.
@MrRespen
@MrRespen 7 жыл бұрын
Just caught this today, was listening for background and had to stop everything I was doing to watch it. So many memories, but to name a few... I played so much that the music was soothing, and I'd leave it on to go to sleep. I remember logging on to battlenet for the first time and seeing players trading weapons by dropping them on the ground, and thinking to myself... this is the future of gaming. I remember contest on... happypuppy games regarding ideas for the sequel that I made a write up for. Nothing has compared, thank you, thank you thank you.
@wreagfe
@wreagfe 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks David, and all the people that worked on Diablo, for this game. It was so awesome, childhood memories. :))
@edwardingania1983
@edwardingania1983 7 жыл бұрын
I really admire his honesty.
@dannyglover8217
@dannyglover8217 3 жыл бұрын
Watching these chill ass dudes at gdc makes me hate my job that much more
@phadedlife
@phadedlife 6 жыл бұрын
Diablo WAS my childhood. I still play D2 even til this day (mostly MedianXL mod). Thank you for doing this David. It's nice to have some knowledge on you, the game, and the team behind it. Thank you for giving me joy in life, where there has been none otherwise. My life has been a complete mess, but I still have Diablo to fall back on. I know this sounds pathetic, but it is what it is. Hope to see new content from you!
@HECKproductions
@HECKproductions 4 жыл бұрын
gods when he fire up that demo with the menu music and the fat THUMP sound effect that brought up nostalgic memories big time
@CIubDuck
@CIubDuck 7 жыл бұрын
That hotmail story is absolutely depressing. 280 million... damn.
@joshuanorris5860
@joshuanorris5860 5 жыл бұрын
@Jonny B except there is interest. And things you can do with 40 million to let it grow properly.
@dunmermage
@dunmermage 5 жыл бұрын
You think that's bad? Back in 1990 Bill Gates offered to sell Windows to IBM for $80,000.
@takcus
@takcus 4 жыл бұрын
@@joshuanorris5860 yeah, for example their own Diablo expansion, (because of bigger studio and more of workers) Diablo III leaded by him etc.... another hunders of milions of dollars ;p
@omikronweapon
@omikronweapon 4 жыл бұрын
@Jonny B probably not gonna spend all of 40M though. (unless you're the "lets go nuts" type, and then you'd burn it back to 0 fairly soon anyway) On the other hand, even if he did just drop it in the bank, 40M is still 40M. You wouldn't refuse that just because it isnt 280M.
@omikronweapon
@omikronweapon 4 жыл бұрын
@@dunmermage that's crazy. But it's not quite comparable. Maybe it would've crashed and burned under IBM, managing it badly or something. Pretty big difference from buying a relatively small product and having to develop it into more, compared to getting 40M just for having a dude sit in your empty room.
@rum-ham
@rum-ham Жыл бұрын
I loved this game so much. Still do. Everything about it was mind blowing at the time. Great memories.
@PixelProphecy
@PixelProphecy 6 жыл бұрын
Just finished Diablo again on Windows 10 x64 Pro. Didn't even need the patch, but with 1.6 it plays a bit better. And seeing good old Tristram in 640*480 stretched up all the way on an UHD screen is quite a sight to behold :)
@stricker1eagle500
@stricker1eagle500 6 жыл бұрын
glad you enjoyed that mobile game :)
@werdelke
@werdelke 6 жыл бұрын
Damn, those pixels must've been as big as bricks, man.
@hrvojesincek3888
@hrvojesincek3888 5 жыл бұрын
@@werdelke HD mod does exist and its good.
@snuffeldjuret
@snuffeldjuret 5 жыл бұрын
@@hrvojesincek3888 Indeed! It is a lot harder though, I got my ass totally wooped first time I played. Just recently managed to kill Mr. D as a normal leveled and equipped warrior :).
@darovi
@darovi 8 жыл бұрын
Blizzard needs to put Diablo along with Warcraft 1 & 2 on the store.
@MrCoolibe
@MrCoolibe 8 жыл бұрын
no point, copy right expired i believe
@NinjaSushi2
@NinjaSushi2 8 жыл бұрын
You can download the abandonware.
@satan915
@satan915 8 жыл бұрын
Copyright on corporately owned works doesn't expire until 95 years after publication or 120 years after creation, whichever comes first. Still a long ways to go before even those old games would expire.
@BaDMrFr0zty
@BaDMrFr0zty 8 жыл бұрын
it's called walmart
@blazindragon296
@blazindragon296 8 жыл бұрын
lol to bad Walmart doesn't sell D1 and Warcraft 1 and 2
@riyadali4082
@riyadali4082 4 жыл бұрын
Words cannot express the respect and admiration I have for this man and his team. Diablo is so dear to my heart, all the memories growing up with that series.
@hackebeil20
@hackebeil20 8 жыл бұрын
"battle.net ran on one computer" - dafuuuuuuq!!!!
@UmbraAtrox_
@UmbraAtrox_ 7 жыл бұрын
Some say it still does.
@laughingskuls7000
@laughingskuls7000 6 жыл бұрын
explains why it always crashes
@zeromancer-x
@zeromancer-x 6 жыл бұрын
It's the same computer from 1997...
@XkidXuglyX
@XkidXuglyX 5 жыл бұрын
57:15 to relive this hilarious moment
@ac0rpbg
@ac0rpbg 5 жыл бұрын
Original battle.net was a basic IRC server nothing more nothing less. There were a lot emulated battle.net servers for pirated games. Now such services are a lot more complicated that even host the games for the anti-cheat protection and so on.
@acidarrow
@acidarrow 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, so much gold here for anyone who has spent any significant time on any of the Diablo series. Not to mention the extra insight for those of us who have some kind of programming experience. Fascinating.
@ArborDaze
@ArborDaze 8 жыл бұрын
Diablo 1 got me an internet bill of 1800 dollars one month, back when there was an hourly fee for some dial up.
@Truth_Hurts528
@Truth_Hurts528 8 жыл бұрын
Arbor Day you or your parents?
@ArborDaze
@ArborDaze 7 жыл бұрын
Me.
@rummy98
@rummy98 7 жыл бұрын
My local phone company used to have something called LOS which was a 40 mile radius for free long distance after the first $15. When the bill would come in they would still tally the full minutes used then show capped at $15. I remember getting $9000 and $11000 bills as I would sometimes leave the connection on overnight. I remember the first big bill we got and my dad's reaction when he misread it lmao.
@chrisskull7882
@chrisskull7882 6 жыл бұрын
Dude wtf...you have a game addiction I mean I got to level 50 on Diablo 2 in 4 days but dude you got issues...thats didn't cost me any money lol
@Sebastian_Najmanovich
@Sebastian_Najmanovich 5 жыл бұрын
rummy98 WHAT??? 10000??
@jackcristo1628
@jackcristo1628 6 жыл бұрын
I've been playing "Diablo 3: Path of Exile", and I'm enjoying it a lot.
@ssosso79
@ssosso79 5 жыл бұрын
path of exhile was def a better "diablo 3" then diablo 3
@blackb1rd
@blackb1rd 5 жыл бұрын
@@ssosso79 I just started POE with a friend (lvl 35 ranger now). Quite a bit more complex than any diablo game though. Any beginner tips?
@nobodyinterestingyou
@nobodyinterestingyou 5 жыл бұрын
Don't be a jack of all trade. PoE has a really flexible amount of skills configuration that let you be a lot of things.I'm playing the sorceress and the Scion character right now and I specialised them both Into something specific that still fits to my taste; One Is a necromancer and the other an archer all the way.There's a lot of room to experiment with builds and have fun If you don't follow any guides but you gotta have a clear vision still of what you want yours to be. So welcome aboard and have a pleasant stay with us In Wraeclast,exile (Y)!
@ccgb92
@ccgb92 5 жыл бұрын
ROFL best comment
@fu6817
@fu6817 5 жыл бұрын
I can't live with the leagues "forcing" me to restart the progress every time new league comes out.
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 6 жыл бұрын
33:28 Yep, 'Blizzard really got us, and got our game' - They turned down a TON of money because of the GAME... The game came first... Where is that in game creation now?
@Wylie288
@Wylie288 5 жыл бұрын
Gamers shit on games and make them fail any time it happens.
@CaveyMoth
@CaveyMoth 5 жыл бұрын
And I like that Blizzard smacked them around a little bit to make the game real-time. Game devs need to have their eyes opened sometimes.
@Blutzen
@Blutzen 5 жыл бұрын
You can find all sorts of indie devs making games as passion projects who don't compromise their vision for money, and that's sort of what Blizzard North and Diablo *were.*
@Microphunktv-jb3kj
@Microphunktv-jb3kj 4 жыл бұрын
Because the real Game is money creation :D
@nicolasroqe
@nicolasroqe 5 жыл бұрын
SO the brain behind one of the most ICONIC games wants to give YOU an unopened copy of the game: 53:07 -Do you want it?. - i have one, thank you. WTF?¿?¿?¿?¿???¿?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿
@Whateverworksism
@Whateverworksism 5 жыл бұрын
hahahaha he did not think that through, fuck me I'd frame it and treat it as a treasured piece of art.
@Kratatch
@Kratatch 5 жыл бұрын
@Deventh Apparantly he sold it...
@omikronweapon
@omikronweapon 4 жыл бұрын
IMO It should have gone to the guy that paid for his pirated copy. I know he might have turned it down, but that to me was the most deserving person there. He would have cherished the fuck out of it. Though, a little higher up in the comments, a guy is claiming to be the recipient and still having the game. I looked into it a bit, and there's sóme creedence to it. www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/4b3ian/i_got_an_signed_copy_of_diablo_from_david_brevik/ www.benjaminpirkey.com/ (his twitter name is supersulf)
@zeromancer-x
@zeromancer-x 6 жыл бұрын
More developers should do talks like this.
@JoshForeman
@JoshForeman 7 жыл бұрын
Hm. I started working at Synergistic (The studio that Sierra had do the xpac) right after they finished Hellfire. If it's any consolation, they shut us down within 6 months. Also, I NOW work for Mike O'Brian at ArenaNet, so it fun hearing about his earlier days. I hope Brevik splits that profit he just got with Mike after praising him so much! ;P
@robbhays8077
@robbhays8077 8 жыл бұрын
I remember that DirectX demo CD! I played the heck out of that thing. EDIT: That Dark Forces overlay was great. I forgot how revolutionary that was.
@DetectivePoofPoof
@DetectivePoofPoof 8 жыл бұрын
Wow that was probably the most entertaining postmortem I've seen!
@robertwhitis6132
@robertwhitis6132 6 жыл бұрын
This was the best damn postmortem I've ever seen. Rock on David! Absolutely amazing.
@karatechop7289
@karatechop7289 7 жыл бұрын
One of the best videos I have seen on KZbin. I was glued to my monitor, the whole time he was talking.
@szymonm.5045
@szymonm.5045 5 жыл бұрын
'-Do you want it? -I... I have one. Thank you.' Wait... WHAAAAAAAAAT?!
@Great.Milenko
@Great.Milenko 4 жыл бұрын
love this guy , he's funny, well thought out, CLEARLY knows what he's talking about and has a "I was there" bearing.
@BaneTodor
@BaneTodor 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, man, for your existence! This was pure gold and you made me laugh for full hour! Off course, I learned a lot.
@draphking
@draphking 8 жыл бұрын
Reminder that good games are made by people, not by a logo. The chumps working at Blizzard now couldn't make a game like D2 if they tried.
@wanghaifeng7998
@wanghaifeng7998 7 жыл бұрын
That's a bit too general, there are probably a lot of very passionate and hard working working at Blizzard. Not a lot of people making games would ever want to make a sub par gaming experience. Blizzard is made up of thousands of employees, why treat all of them as a single entity.
@Haannibal777
@Haannibal777 7 жыл бұрын
MrZurata Sure, but they made WoW and Overwatch, what's your point?
@deethanyter7324
@deethanyter7324 7 жыл бұрын
over watch and doesn't have the same kind of spark that old war craft and even WOW had. it seems corporate and kind of sterile compared to their older games, because they need to make sure it makes money. yea they want a quality game experience but its less a passion thing and more a business thing.
@jimmychongo3149
@jimmychongo3149 7 жыл бұрын
Most of the guys that developed vanilla WoW and the first few expansions are long gone and Overwatch is complete trash though.
@ezetreezy
@ezetreezy 7 жыл бұрын
engineering and art at blizzard are always top notch. the design of the games are debatable.
@zachm705
@zachm705 7 жыл бұрын
The Diablo series needs a reboot in the spirit of the original game. It needs to be small, spooky, intimate, simplified, and challenging.
@ripnephils148
@ripnephils148 3 жыл бұрын
Why do they unlisted this video?
@loreenamarlowe
@loreenamarlowe 2 жыл бұрын
I know right! I was freaking out thinking they took it down.
@64jcl
@64jcl 8 жыл бұрын
The turnbased engine at first was likely a good choice to have underneath this as it no doubt made the game state more "tidy" when he transitioned it to real time. Seeing how quickly he got it into a realtime state, indicates that the movement/animation of the player and monsters were all smooth for each time transition. A player can almost play Diablo a bit turn based as you can move a tile and trigger motion of a monster that then is in the "aggro range" to deal with them one at a time.
@DeathBringer769
@DeathBringer769 8 жыл бұрын
I mean even WoW later had similar things with aggro ranges on mobs, even though both games are in real-time. I wouldn't really equate pulling mobs one at a time to "turn based" though, lol.
@nekrataali
@nekrataali 5 жыл бұрын
I really want to know more about this in regards to Diablo 2. For those that don't know, Diablo 2 runs at 25 frames per second for each animation. Having faster cast rate, move speed, increased attack speed, and so on meant the animation for your character skipped frames in the animation. For example, say it takes your character 10 frames to complete an attack animation, but a monster 25 frames, your character will attack 2.5 times per second while the monster will attack once. This stuff isn't that important for playing against monsters, but if you're doing any sort of PvP, you had this shit down to a science. One of the highest skills you could master was how to de-synchronize (or "desynch"). This was when you flooded the server with so many inputs that when it went to skip over the animations, it could glitch, lose packets, and your character would appear invisible on your opponent's screen. A good Amazon, for instance, could desynch her run speed so that she's almost permanently invisible, "teleporting" next to her opponent, and firing off a large salvo of javalins right to her opponent's face. Paladins were probably the easiest to desynch with, while one of the hardest goals would be to achieve desynch'd whirlwinds on barbarians and assassins. The other thing is that duping in Diablo 2 was usually obtained by desynch. You create the conditions that cause the server to lose track of your character (or straight-up crash the server) and try and move items from one place to another (like the stash into the player inventory). The server loses track of your character, thinks an item is being held by another person, then you log back in and the server sees you still have your item, leaving the other person with the dupe(s). There's a lot of methods, but these are the basics behind most of them. However, none of the desynch methods are possible on Classic because players can't get enough cast speed/move speed/etc. to cause a server to crash. As a result, all items on Classic were either duped prior to v1.09 (when Blizzard introduced item numbers) or are legitimate and not dupes. I'd be really curious to hear Brevik talk about all this.
@terefer3
@terefer3 6 жыл бұрын
34yo here, great game, me and my brother got it with our PC upgrade - finally we had a proper sound card! Both of us completely gone, we SLAINED our mouse, because of the upgrade we have been skint, so we actually opened our mouse, and replaced left mouse button with right one - as right one wasn't as important! xD Still play it from time to time, great game.
@djobnoxious6407
@djobnoxious6407 Жыл бұрын
His dad still plays Diablo 2 after sixteen years of its release. What a wonderful feeling that must be.
@Ussurin
@Ussurin 8 жыл бұрын
That moment when GDC does better 20th Anniversary for Diablo than Bli$$ard Entertainment.
@d.l.918
@d.l.918 8 жыл бұрын
Blizzard today and Blizzard from the 90s only share the name. After Chris Metzen left, is there even one staff member left who was with the company in the early days?
@boskee
@boskee 8 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Misterzen87
@Misterzen87 7 жыл бұрын
Donald Trump's huge dingdong Maybe the janitor? :D
@Dracold77
@Dracold77 7 жыл бұрын
Well, Mike Morhaime, Co-founder of the place is actually still the CEO/president ;)
@Jurgen123445
@Jurgen123445 7 жыл бұрын
Lol Dude you replaced the Zs in the company name with Dollarsigns to indicate that they are only interested in the money nowadays! That's genius! I bet you're the first being in world history who thought of that! LOL!
@CondensedComments
@CondensedComments 7 жыл бұрын
48:00 Wow...thank you so much man, you really made an awesome game. Dang and I didn't even hear the baby part until I started writing the comment. Congratulations on the family man, from a Christian who plays the *heck* out of Diablo, if you see this, thank you so much and God bless!
@maxwuup2152
@maxwuup2152 8 жыл бұрын
how could the first guy asking a question NOT take the unopened diablo :o
@alexoelkers2723
@alexoelkers2723 8 жыл бұрын
I think he was just kind of on the spot and didn't want to seem like he was asking for it. I am sure he regretted it afterward.
@_Minecraft_ASMR
@_Minecraft_ASMR 8 жыл бұрын
He said he already had a copy, The person who asked for it later sold it, which is highly disrespectful as it was given under the idea that he was going to play it.
@alexoelkers2723
@alexoelkers2723 8 жыл бұрын
Mia S I would of thankfully taken it as a collector's piece even if I had a copy. Really kind of sad that it got sold in the end.
@DeathBringer769
@DeathBringer769 8 жыл бұрын
If he sold that then he is a scumbag, especially for asking it under pretenses of him needing a copy to play it. Bet he walks around thinking he's a good person too. Dirty liar, if that's true.
@alexoelkers2723
@alexoelkers2723 8 жыл бұрын
Deathbrewer it was you wasn't it?
@bastardtubeuser
@bastardtubeuser 8 жыл бұрын
hes a good speaker and a good guy for sharing some of the development and technical processes they went through. another fantastic postmortem
@DeuceGenius
@DeuceGenius 5 жыл бұрын
I just want to say thank you man. I never knew who created my favorite 2 games of all time. Diablo I and II :) i spent my childhood in your games and its inspired me as an evil fantasy artist for the rest of my life
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 6 жыл бұрын
Watching this after the announcement of Diablo: Immortal - Game development was so much cooler back in the day... it was all about passion, not money!
@UnknownGunslinger
@UnknownGunslinger 8 жыл бұрын
Oh man I remember Primal Rage! I used to love that game so much, why did I forget it?
@unkeneke
@unkeneke 4 жыл бұрын
GDC talks can tend to be tedious and hard to watch but this one flew by so fast, 1 hour was not enough, and I am not even a big Diablo fan. Would loveee to see a continuation with a Diablo 2 postmortem, thank you David Brevik for your amazing work!
@adrianofigueira2516
@adrianofigueira2516 5 жыл бұрын
so, they turned down 3do for blizzard, even losing half the money, and then blizzard fired them after diablo 2, LOD. Look at what Blizzard has become now. Ruined diablo.
@MichaelReznoR
@MichaelReznoR 4 жыл бұрын
Blizzard North left Blizzard on their own, they were not fired. See Max Schaefer interview for more details.
@george_denbrough
@george_denbrough 3 жыл бұрын
Diablo would have been ruined even if they stayed. David said in an interview once that if he'd been the lead on D3 then he would have done it like Marvel Heroes, which was not that good of a game. So it really doesn't matter.
@JohnDaniels
@JohnDaniels 5 жыл бұрын
This is one of my top five GDC videos 👍
@Tudumanu
@Tudumanu 8 жыл бұрын
Amazing talk, thx a lot David Brevik! This game was superb for the time and still is today.
@ChristopherAOBoyle
@ChristopherAOBoyle 8 жыл бұрын
"I have a copy in the box unopened." "Do you want it?" Guy in crowd: "I have one thankyou." If that was me: "OMG YES PLS OVERLORD THANKYOU GIVE IT TO ME" Absolutely amazing talk thankyou for the upload and plethora of information & guidance! The narrative of the game's production is so interesting and I only wish to make as much of an impact as this dewd.
@ElGeecho
@ElGeecho 8 жыл бұрын
Well, now I have to reinstall Diablo.
@CaveyMoth
@CaveyMoth 5 жыл бұрын
I have it on an HDD somewhere..dang it... Gotta break out my low-res monitor, too.
@snuffeldjuret
@snuffeldjuret 5 жыл бұрын
@@CaveyMoth Should be no need. I had no trouble playing on my modern computer! Although I prefer playing Diablo HD mod, it includes deleted content and Mechanics from Diablo 2.
@Microphunktv-jb3kj
@Microphunktv-jb3kj 4 жыл бұрын
d2 lod with median XL... or u will be severly dissapointed : ))))
@zerg47
@zerg47 8 жыл бұрын
The 90s were the true golden age and 96-98 were the best years in gaming. Pick 1997, you have: Diablo, Oddworld, Mario 64, Golden Eye, Fallout, GTA, Dungeon Keeper. The year before you have games like Final Fantasy 7, Quake, Resident Evil. The year after it's like Half Life, Grim Fandango, Ocarina of Time, Starcraft. There are no year after 2000 that can compete with that. Don't even try.
@eMaLiO36
@eMaLiO36 8 жыл бұрын
zerg47 damn! that's a lotta good games
@peterm2044
@peterm2044 8 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, 2007 though. Bioshock and TF2 and Halflife 2 and tons of others. Mabye it peaks every 10 years?!?! C'mon 2017!
@Dong_Harvey
@Dong_Harvey 7 жыл бұрын
Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2 came out early 2000
@GelebFlamebringer
@GelebFlamebringer 7 жыл бұрын
Deus Ex
@zerg47
@zerg47 7 жыл бұрын
I simply said that the amount of incredible games for a given year in the 90s cannot be compared to the next decades. It's like years for wine. You have good years, bad years. 1996-98 are just legendary for videogames, just pointing that.
@AoiKaze2000
@AoiKaze2000 8 жыл бұрын
Where's the link to the design document?
@frigidwinter5101
@frigidwinter5101 8 жыл бұрын
+AoiKaze2000 Right here: www.graybeardgames.com/download/diablo_pitch.pdf
@pearz420
@pearz420 5 жыл бұрын
Working on my first game, in Unity, and I feel like I am fortunate to walk on the shoulders of giants. David Brevik is one such giant.
@thewickinator
@thewickinator 8 жыл бұрын
Im eating this up Im only at 5 minutes holy shit diablo was the first computer game i played and i think it raised me when my parents wernt around from 7-9 years old
@anthonygrenier6509
@anthonygrenier6509 7 жыл бұрын
This video is simply amazing. Thank you David for all the time, effort and passion you've put in this game with your team.
@naomi-nada
@naomi-nada 7 жыл бұрын
I could listen to this man talk about developing games all day.
@mattiviljanen8109
@mattiviljanen8109 6 жыл бұрын
Thank You for finally giving me the name; Primal Rage. I played it when I was a kid and no other game has been as brutal; you fight until your heart stops. I've never actually played Diablo, or its sequels, but I do recognise the game and appreciate it and its influence. It's good to have these stories told, they inspire the next generation to stick to their high school ideas (and lets them know that the idea will change along the way).
@CharlesVanNoland
@CharlesVanNoland 6 жыл бұрын
"You don't have to worry about this anymore, the card does all this crap for you, so it's... you know........ Kids today..."
@slow9573
@slow9573 3 жыл бұрын
Dude this presentation is top tier. Internet history.
@karacter3369
@karacter3369 2 жыл бұрын
the way he did the convertion of turn based to real time is genius really
@Stephenson05
@Stephenson05 8 жыл бұрын
Amazing talk and great to hear about one of my favorite and most nostalgic games of all time.
@d.l.918
@d.l.918 8 жыл бұрын
I remember fighting the Butcher in his boss room, taking a savage beating, barely fleeing it out the door... only to magically teleport right back in front of him (and die instantly) when he hurled his cleaver through thin air. Sometimes the movement of your character sprite was really out of sync with the rest of the game.
@ON-nk5of
@ON-nk5of 5 жыл бұрын
A TRULY wicked demon, who bypasses game's logic with sheer desire to chop and murder you.
@Funkopedia
@Funkopedia 5 жыл бұрын
First time I got to the Butcher, he got stuck in a running animation behind a small rock formation, so I got to wail on him for free til he died. Never was as easy after that.
@raymondcostley4819
@raymondcostley4819 4 жыл бұрын
butcher does not throw his cleaver
@Ana_Ng
@Ana_Ng Жыл бұрын
@@raymondcostley4819 he's saying that the butcher attacked thin air cause on his screen his character was elsewhere. and then his character teleported back because although his character LOOKED like it was elsewhere, the game insisted it was where the butcher attacked
@ifstatementifstatement2704
@ifstatementifstatement2704 7 жыл бұрын
David is great! The best GDC presentation I've ever seen.
@Pringlesman
@Pringlesman 8 жыл бұрын
I love this talk. Sometimes people complain about how game X was only done for the money. And the comeback is always about how game developers are businesses and of course that's their goal. This talk really illustrates that sometimes the goal is to make a quality game first and hope that that turns into a profit after the fact.
@Youboob99
@Youboob99 8 жыл бұрын
And with D1 and D2 it basically did both, haha. And turned out to be a legendary game or two in the process, respect-wise. SOOO tough to achieve that.
@wildwest1832
@wildwest1832 6 жыл бұрын
idk in modern times it seems to happen less and less. Maybe more with indie games but not AAA.
@ExileLBL
@ExileLBL 5 жыл бұрын
thanks a lot youve talked about Matt, I was defined by his unique tones and chords.
@UserRandomized
@UserRandomized 4 жыл бұрын
I spent hundreds of hours playing this game and after seeing how excited you were to develop this game and the entire process, it was worth it. Also, my heart dropped when he turned down the free copy of the original diablo. I would put it in a gold plated frame and never open it :D
@Bkn_zv
@Bkn_zv Жыл бұрын
"We got feedback from players, and worked on the changes" Omg what a genius idea, we should contact Blizzard immediately and tell them about this!
@viking_II
@viking_II 8 жыл бұрын
Diablo 1&2 spirit continues in Torchlight, Path of Exile and Grim Dawn.
@bhaalgorn
@bhaalgorn 8 жыл бұрын
derpeter, why?
@sirbattlecat
@sirbattlecat 7 жыл бұрын
Viking II when I describe PoE to people I just say "it feels more like Diablo than Diablo 3".
@yellowblanka6058
@yellowblanka6058 7 жыл бұрын
Ugly, unprovoked attack to an innocent comment...yeah, this is the KZbin comments section.
@krisbayley9422
@krisbayley9422 6 жыл бұрын
and Torchlight 2 aswell
@emil1322
@emil1322 5 жыл бұрын
I have a lot of respect for David and his team, who despite pressure, chose not to release the game until it was finished. I love Diablo. It has brought a lot of joy into my life.
@ac0rpbg
@ac0rpbg 5 жыл бұрын
Games back in the 90s were the best games. They were done with love and passion and that was the driving force. Now it is all about making more money...
@kusog3
@kusog3 5 жыл бұрын
Sad state of the gaming industry
@Dousch
@Dousch 3 жыл бұрын
That’s why these talks are so valuable. Keeps me going when I feel like giving up on my own projects.
@Drachensingsang
@Drachensingsang 8 жыл бұрын
This is one inspiring talk. It's like looking back through a window. You can be there wihtout having been there. Fantastic!
@donov25
@donov25 8 жыл бұрын
It runs on windows 10! A buddy of mine and I play it all the time.
@adamstryker999
@adamstryker999 4 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite video, period. Best presentation.
@rosurobosu8546
@rosurobosu8546 7 жыл бұрын
listening to someone who knows his thing is so satisfying.
@heitorcruz7895
@heitorcruz7895 4 жыл бұрын
Man, this guy has an absolutely inspiring history about gaming career. Just what a I needed!
@DelkorYT
@DelkorYT 7 жыл бұрын
New game's name: Arreat Objective: Protect Mt. Diablo
@anon5119
@anon5119 5 жыл бұрын
The story about a warrior, climbing the mountain struck by the demonic meteor ridden by supersatan
@Samkiud
@Samkiud 6 жыл бұрын
Great, awesome talk. Best postmortem I have watched so far. The question about the possibility to acquire the game legally currently was freaking important.
@karbonista
@karbonista 5 жыл бұрын
One of the most amazing things about Diablo and D2 was the solid running. I know there were bugs that some people dealt with, but d1 was one of the first nearly-flawless game experiences I'd had. Imagine if XCom with that level of solidity. I think one of the reasons that differences of opinion on XCom are *possible*, about whether it's the greatest single gaming experience of all time, is that the buggy and crappy UI put a lot of people off. Diablo set a standard that Bliz held on to for quite a while. (btw, I'm a firm "battlegrounds killed WoW" gamer).
@DecibelAlex
@DecibelAlex 7 жыл бұрын
I'm so jealous that one dude got David's diablo copy. He should've asked for his autograph though!
@ecstaseed89
@ecstaseed89 7 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. David seems nice enough to do that for him too. Also hey I know you from your first upload, big castlevania fan whatsup
@optiorespb
@optiorespb 6 жыл бұрын
David Brevik: I have a dream to make a PC game. Blizzard 2018: Don't you guys have phones? Thank you David and Blizzard North for making D1 and 2. For me Diablo 3 doesn't exist.
@chrismorris5241
@chrismorris5241 5 жыл бұрын
Huge part of my child hood. Thanks David Brevik. Seems like a really awesome guy.
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