Diablo IV Beta Review - I CAN FINALLY TALK ABOUT IT - Initial Impressions

[@zaug1561]

This was once a fantastic comment, hence the amount of comments and thumbs up, but I am now sick of the notifications and want them to stop.

[@bravexheart7]

Pre order tomorrow.. the hype is real… trust me

[@PepeSilvia52]

its on game pass day one, if the deal goes through, try it for 1$ if thats the case

[@davehalliday8010]

Have faith. Just don't pre order.

[@TheSeeker225]

I hear you. Blizzard's reputation is in the gutter. I picked up Diablo 2 on day one and had zero doubts about how awesome it would be, but those days are long gone.

[@Grumptr0nix]

Having heavily played the beta, I'm not pre-ordering but will buy the game after release.

[@lordzhangfei7534]

I hope Magic and rare items will follow the same path as they do in d2. Being Magic can roll higher than any items in the game (3 to certain skill trees, Jeweler's, 40mf, and affix/prefix like that) and rare items have the ability to roll the best items in the game, even though you will never find a eth rep, cruel, knights, Fools, 40ias, 2os divine scepter with 5 to FoH and 3 to conviction, it was a nice thinking one day it would come. Also a free market is what kept d2 going for 20+ years. So I hope they have plans to keep the game fresh because without free trading it might go flat faster than they think

[@mapron1]

not free market, but offline playability and modders. 90% people play D2 offline, even after release of D2R. Offline mode will never be a thing for D4.

[@MarcusFunk1990]

Rares can now be upgraded to legendaries, so the hunt is gonna be for that perfect Rare base item to trade instead - it's still going to be there (just not exactly how D2 did it)

[@freshandsaltyjohnny]

@@mapron1 I e been playing Diablo 2 since 8th grade I'm in my mid 30's, I have never played D2 in offline mode. I have always had internet....

[@mapron1]

@@freshandsaltyjohnny I got access to the internet maybe 5 years ago. Probably you live in the rich country.

[@Ibanez723]

@@mapron1 90%? Nah. Most people play online for the trading aspect. Probably 70%online

[@XisoLate]

Glad to hear that the action during gameplay is slowed down and not all these insane visuals to where you don't know what's happening on your computer screen. D2 did this well as far as pacing of a fight with the exception of boss mechanics being too simple. The clips that were shown about it being dark as well as the music makes me happy so far. Now I'm mostly worried about item bloat when it comes to sets and legendaries that D3 had to the point where rares and magic items didn't matter all too much it felt in the time I played. Legendaries need to be super limited (like grail limited for the really good ones) even more so than uniques. Power level on them also needs to not be super nuts for the people who acquire legos to the ones that don't have any. Hoping the runes are closer to D2 style but more balanced compared to the other items. Others have stated that it's nice to gamble or find a rare item that can be used for builds like 40MF fortuitous rings you can't find on other item types. Blizzard constantly falls into the trap of not separating pvp itemization and skills with pve. It's impossible to balance monsters with all these abilities and HPs to that of another player's abilities, items, and smaller HP pool. I don't want endless systems like paragon leveling, rifts, or all those Inferno levels. It's normal, nightmare, and hell. Divide areas, dungeons, etc of the map like that would be amazing. I'm super curious how farming is going to go with it being open world compared to resetting games or maps in D2.

[@Daniel-rd6st]

I honestly liked how D2 handled character progression. You could get maybe 90% of power out of your chosen build in a reasonable amount of time, faster if you had a good mf build to farm items. This allowed you to explore many different classes and builds, . In D3 they tried to archieve this with the seasonsystem which mostly forces you to start from zero every couple of months. Both has his prs and cons but all in all i do prefer the D2 way.

[@MrHuntingClaw]

Honestly, D2 did a buncha stuff right which D3 utterly failed in, first and foremost, a reasonable power ceiling for most of the content. You could play nearly anything in D2 and still manage to beat nightmare and potentially even hell. Sure, you may have required crazy bonkers builds to do uber Andariel and the like, but how many people actually ever did them anyway or even knew about them. D3 items compared to D2 items were too overloaded, oh you didn't have that one unique which boost your dmg by 4-20x your normal dmg? Guess you will not be able to farm this even harder difficulty which by the way is like some perpetual motion machine where if you get strong enough for it, ya won't be strong enough for the next difficulty above it, and this will go on FOREVER. One specific single item never had that number bloating in D2 simply by itself, that was only in D3, seeing some of the items in D4, it seems they may be number bloating here too, making anything subpar feel weak and worthless after the first few hours.

[@manoqueenz]

If the D2 itemization and free trading was coming, I’d actually be super hyped for this game. That was really what made D2 so amazing. I’ll probably not buy D4 for that reason. It’s just not for me.

[@nathanb1886]

Agree 100%. The itemization and economy is what makes Diablo fun. If they don’t get the core stuff right, the rest of it just falls apart.

[@RudeDude563]

It's not Diablo game. They just named it so.

[@abrahammartinez3642]

Free trading just makes the game pay to win because of sites like jsp. I’ve been playing a lot classic wow pvp and I don’t have to worry about dueling a person who spent 10k$ on forum gold and just wrecked my shit.

[@ethan007]

@@abrahammartinez3642 not everyone play diablo for pvp

[@abrahammartinez3642]

@@ethan007 most people are not in it for pvp. But pvp was what drove the market for Diablo 2

[@WilliamAndrews0]

There is some conflicting information here. In Rhykkers video he said that legendary essences or whatever they're called are NOT tradeable, but that trading will be based heavily on trading great Rare Items that you can then imbue with the Legendary affix that you already have. Also the way the developers said it in the last interview I saw, it is not that it's more work to respec than to start a new char, but just that it won't be possible to respec an endgame build daily because the cost is higher. So it's more like, if you want to respec a high level char, you have to expect that you will play that build for at least a couple of days -> week, before you can respec again. Obviously if you have a char and farm for 4 weeks endgame content, you should have enough resources to respec that char multiple times, they just wanted to stop the D3 version of "i'm doing bounties, click, doing rifts, click, doing GR150, click, going for set-dungeons challenge, click" and play 4 different builds on 1 char in the same hour.

[@curtisking6696]

Rhyker is right on the affix trading. And also you’re correct on the gold scaling to respec. It won’t be a flip flop late game. Debrunski stealing content and not doing it well.

[@88KillaKeith]

So the the question that I have is, are we going to be playing this for 3/4 months and going back to D2 or will it be able to stand on its own?

[@shaquileoatmeal7365]

I think we already know the answer to that lol

[@zxql_]

Don't know what it is exactly, but based on all the footage despite it looking dark and gritty it still does not feel grounded. Feels like an mmo with your character flying above the content, in a sense. D1 and D2 feels very grounded, and the pace of this is very much like D3 and the character interacting with the environment feels very arcade-y.

[@zxql_]

@@dissociate_d Thanks, will gladly go back to D2r 👋

[@Antelano]

Yup. Everything looks so weightless.

[@maximhebert-gareau4461]

Yep I totally agree. I also don’t like all these UI elements for “dungeon complete” or level up, damage number, healtbar, …

[@contris1]

@@maximhebert-gareau4461 Bro i hate dmg numbers so much, copletely destroys immersion and just tell me i play jet another number game with some graphical overlay

[@ransom--]

To me it still just looks like Diablo 3 with a dark, bloody coat of paint on it and some new systems. Which, sadly, means that I am going to have to give it a hard pass.

[@mrj6]

God just let players trade like in D2. Stop trying to control the players, let the players determine the market. THATS THE FUN.

[@KatoKrazy]

If you can’t trade the best items you basically can’t trade.

[@blitzgash]

disappointing to say the least. I really wanted free trade like D2.

[@HighLanderPonyYT]

Free in today's Actiblizz world. Oh, sweet summer child.

[@KatoKrazy]

@@HighLanderPonyYT I don't think "free" means what you think it means in this context.

[@HighLanderPonyYT]

@@KatoKrazy You might be right.

[@gstvntt]

Remember cyberpunk guys, wait for full release, check reviews and in depth analysis Value your money

[@krunk485]

After Cyberpunk I will never buy a new game. I might pick a game up a year after release and only at a heavy discount. The industry has fallen too far and needs to have the rot removed.

[@gregleighton8558]

Is there an option to remove health bars above enemies and players, also remove damage numbers on screen? I just want the bar at the top of the screen

[@zafit02]

i was thinking the same, hate to see so many information on the screen, i want to see the monsters

[@Resouler]

he doesnt even care if the game sucks or not he just want to customize it i love it :D:D

[@Uncle19]

Im fine with the gearing goals AS LONG AS THEYRE NEW ITEMS. For example i like playing D2 and having double spirit / Lore / Stealth and the upgrading to fathom / nightwing / COH. What i dont want is having "Homing shoulderpads" which have 100 int and then suddenly i find "homing shoulderpads" that have 200 int... give me unique items

[@wildwest1832]

thats what its gonna be. Grinding to find the +15 int shoulders. Then grind for the +20.... Its either endless content scaled like that, or unique items that kind of give a final end game = D2

[@Uncle19]

@@wildwest1832 yeah I sure hope it’s the d2 method… you can still have things like a budget smiter with a 4os p diamond shield + black rune word which can successfully do content AND then super rare vex,ohm,ist for exile endgame. Then just scale your greater rifts so that exile can do gr100 and black runeword does gr50…

[@Cookingfan3000]

I got some bad news for ya bro...

[@UnStop4ble]

isnt it already confirmed that it has "smart loot" or is smart loot something else?

[@Uncle19]

@@UnStop4ble I think smart loot generally just means role based. So if crown of ages is considered a strength attribute item (melle) then it won’t drop for sorceress.

[@jonathanshivel1302]

That means they will be selling those items you can’t trade for. Without a doubt

[@SaulGoodman-w2x]

Looks like a cool game... to play while waiting for the new D2R ladder to start.

[@abrasivepartyc5416]

My thoughts exactly! haha

[@Resouler]

reality of it is going to be alternating between poe leagues and d2r ladders xD

[@TripppAU]

This guy gets it

[@DarkWanderer666]

D4 will be fine without your support. Just don't buy the game 😃

[@SaulGoodman-w2x]

@@DarkWanderer666 Sure. I mean D3 was also fine financially, right? Even though it rock bottomed almost every user review site. D4 better follow the D2 recipe is all I am saying.

[@MrTorrencio]

Thanks DB, appreciate the review!

[@jonashansen8907]

6:53 - I hope they make the item icons bigger than this, so you can actually see what the item looks like.

[@ughmas]

this - the item art looks so garbage and cartoony in these tiny slots - D2 and D2R items look infinitely better

[@Skibblez]

Agreed looks aweful.

[@vjudnich]

On the topic of trading, I remember an early discussion where it was mentioned that magics and rares to be valuable. So, being able to trade affixes makes sense. You can "build" a really good rare out of them. This takes in account a crafting discussion in the quartlilies as well. I like this. I hate in d3 that magic and rares suck after leveling. I like in D2R farming bases and having useful magic and rare items that you can use, even after completing all the acts and are farming higher content. You can do ubers and clone with these. You only need "end game gear" if you want to farm faster, which really means "farming p8 efficiently". Just a thought.

[@geistmachine2373]

I recall the same that the best items are going to be from a godly rolled rares and magics as a base, upgraded in quality, and having a legendary power imbued. Trading will likely revolve around trading good bases. Restricting trading ancients and beyond prevents people just making trading the best finished items and going from zero to hero without any effort. If this turns out to be true, it’ll make for healthy trading that requires understanding of what you want to make.

[@bravepotatoe7513]

that's why I liked Release d3, yellows were really good and even blues could be good neck/rings particularly

[@pdrizzle8120]

I think if they want a big launch and for people to actually pre-order this in mass they will have to open up trading. Otherwise it’s no different than playing a single player game in a sense. Like on every d2 ladder I hardly find runes but I find good uniques to trade for hrs so I can make my rws if not I’d be stuck with a ton of good uniques for nothing.

[@Dbrunski125]

Restricted trading is not my ideal choice but it's also not a deal breaker for me. As builds aren't restricted behind ultra rare items to work either. Game still has chase items but you can still make a build work unlike d2 and its massive reliance on infinity for example.

[@hotpancakes9814]

strictly speaking on the end game beta leaks i have read elsewhere on the internet, the trading was way more open than i thought it would be tbh. still not completely open like i would prefer, but better than i thought

[@pdrizzle8120]

@@Dbrunski125 not that it’s a deal breaker but I think more people will be waiting for it to go on sale vs pre order or buy day1. Especially with Microsoft mentioning a increase to 70 dollars on blizzard/activision games. The game has a lot of potential but for me trading will make me wait on it. I’ll probably still buy it though.

[@ethan007]

@@hotpancakes9814 just so you know, trading in the close beta is not essential at all considering how items drop. Well unless that change the drop rates from the close beta.

[@hotpancakes9814]

@@ethan007 yeah but active trading is a very nice way to keep the game alive and community engaged. being able to trade aspects is a nice way to still have some form of market. magic items seem pretty much useless just like in D3 (there are some magics in D2 that are actually useful). Being able to trade rares is nice, because they are good bases for legendaries, but no reason to take away aspect trading. that was actually a fun way for classes and players to intermingle

[@Skullsplitter2007]

Guess it will be another 10 years of D2 for me!

[@anthenyiscool2758]

If that’s true, i might buy d3 again and finally play it on pc.

[@turbo_brian]

Lol what a surprise

[@marshamatters9583]

Cant jsp all your gear, gotta work for it. How terrible.

[@wildwest1832]

Whats wrong with that? lol. sheesh just play what you like

[@simony9611]

@@marshamatters9583 I hate jsp too but d4 is just d3 loot and you find all your gear in 2-3 days lol… (yes I played the beta)

[@c3n5i]

is there a setting to not show damage numbers?

[@pires11d]

There is, actually. But the health bar setting is not working when the enemy is a champion, though. It still shows up over their heads even when it's disabled 🥲

[@Great.Gospel]

Hopefully they don't follow suit with their tight restrictions on later beta tests since I just watched a Jay Wilson discussion and he said it was a mistake that they only allowed act 1 up to Skeleton King to be seen in D3 since they were trying to keep the story under wraps and it made the game suffer overall.

[@rdubs1705]

I was surprised this recent beta was so restricted. I played the closed beat and revealed every inch of the map. It's huge!

[@datube5913]

I just had a mini panic attack. He was talking about the feel of D3 and D4 and when I looked over I saw what looked to be a spitting image of D3 and almost had a melt down. Until I realized IT WAS D3 then he switched to D4. Oh thank god lol

[@Edwinstewart88]

Lol I understand that part in my soul lol loved the lore hated the gameplay

[@andrespaz989]

If they screw up D4 as bad as D3 was originally then good riddance. They say fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me 😂. We all just want this to be a good game so bad 😤

[@LilGamingYes]

@@andrespaz989 D4 feels like a good mix between D2 and D3 in my book. There's two things I disliked, the items are all the same size like in D3 and the boss fights were too easy. Other than that I didn't have any complaints so the game should be good as long as not too much stuff is changed from the last Closed Beta which I was invited to.

[@Edwinstewart88]

@@LilGamingYes have any opinions on tier 1 and tier2 difficulties?

[@LilGamingYes]

@@Edwinstewart88 Haven't played T1, T2 was easy, T3 was rough at first but I got to it 10 levels early.

[@hotpancakes9814]

magic items are essentially useless. it’s nice we can trade rare items because they can be really useful legendary bases for aspects. i read during end game beta you could trade legendary aspects. i thought that was a really nice compromise. i really hope they will bring that back if trading aspects is really gone now

[@FzNd]

I read somewhere that magic items will have the highest range on affix rolls. If that is true, they might actually have their own little niche (similar to D2, where blues could be very desireable for certain things). No idea if that is true, though.

[@marsovac]

@@FzNd in d2 they had a niche for magic find, but i think there is no such thing in d4

[@KingCtm]

No trading? No thanks. "We are limiting trading due to our own incompetence of preventing bots and RMT"-blizzard

[@Resouler]

who cares about rmt , just stop bots xD

[@emmanuelguerrero3071]

All games with open trade have bots and rmt, so I guess all game companies are incompetent. FF

[@Resouler]

​@@emmanuelguerrero3071 you never gonna stop rmt thats what secretly make or break games belive it or not xD , as for bots fuck em

[@KingCtm]

@@Resouler blizz cares about RMT. That's the whole reason the D3 auction house was invented, to cut out the RMT websites.

[@KingCtm]

@@emmanuelguerrero3071 yes, your right. Solving the bot issue is so simple. Have real GM's. There's a reason boting gets worse when a company doesn't moderate their games. Blizz is the worst example of this

[@RareFXChrisC]

Is there the option to disable the damage numbers popping up on screen during attacks? It ruins the immersion for me.

[@Skibblez]

Agreed.

[@truthbetold7718]

The limited trading is almost a dealbreaker for me.

[@angelofbliss]

I just installed a 3070 ti, makes d2r look phenomenal. Not sure if I want a d4. But that lillith bro

[@Aizen_SSRB_Delumin]

Thank you for covering this, was really looking forward to watching it! The initial impressions sound really good so far! Fingers crossed the rest will follow like it as well!

[@DeathbringerDrago]

Your making a mistake being happy about NO offline play pal/

[@ramudon2428]

@@DeathbringerDrago I don't think anyone lauds not having an offline mode, at all. It's just that for many people it literally doesn't matter. I can count on one hand the amount of days I've had without internet in the last 5 years, so for me personally it isn't a very important thing. Would I like for the world to lean away from everything being subscription based and live service with paid seasonal content? Yes, absolutely. But "want" sadly doth butter no parsnips. For me, there are heaps of things that matter much more to me than the game requiring a connection. If you live somewhere where you for some reason have frequent disconnections or severe durations on disconnections, I totally get being more upset at it. Because it matters more to those people.

[@vholst]

My biggest concern is that even with Diablo 3, the initial impression was quite good, but it never went beyond the initial introduction to anything really worthwhile. The expansion fixed a few things, but they front loaded a lot of great stuff, and then it sort of petered off quickly into the mundane. I was hoping for more of a challenging and tactical experience mixed in with the action-oriented combat that it was advertising, and never really got it. It didn't help that they had some really bizarre ideas about looting and customization that ended up hurting player expression and engagement. The long term is where it always suffers, and it's something no reviewer ever gets a chance to really engage with, nor do they tend to go back and do a long term analysis, except for the dedicated. I started with Diablo 1, and D2 was a step up, with D3 being a few steps down, and it's expansion being a step and a half back up. My hope is that with the new designers in charge, the design philosophy has also changed. The big thing that kept people coming back to Diablo back in the day was it's addictive replayability, and I really hope they can create that for 4.

[@Grumbledookvid]

Your biggest concern SHOULD be cosmetics and Blizzard's monetisation models. This idea that cosmetic microtransactions are somehow 'OK' is utter idiocy: 1. Item cosmetics are meant to be an indicator of player status and power, cosmetics break this. 2. It encourages devs to prioritise cosmetics as they are the paypig, rather than in-game, achievable item sets. 3. It encourages devs to make the cosmetic items the most attractive, or players will just stick to what's achievable in game. 4. It removes content that should be achievable by PLAYING the game, and places it with a UI feature and real money. Yawn.

[@vholst]

@@Grumbledookvid It's a joined concern then, because selling skins removes them from play, or trivializes them if they are part of play, because why play the game if you can just buy the end game outright. Which people will defend because they My post was never about Activision Blizzard's garbage monetization practices, because nothing I say or do will stop the money grubbing behavior of modern video game developers and publishers. Wasn't a fan of it for WoW (which I'd argue is more egregious) or GW2, or how they're using it as an incentive to pre-order and buy the collector's edition (which doesn't even come with the game). Selling skins instead of them being rewards sucks, but if the actual gameplay loop sucks, then it's not even worth playing, with or without the microtransaction model.

[@egseven]

Man the game will never be the same without the original team and developers.

[@SaltedKillick]

You know what I loved? Diablo 2's version of faceless Tyrael. The voice acting of the Archangel was bang on. I don't know why they had to ruin a good thing in D3.

[@runerune-_-9727]

because blizzard a rtards :D and they make crap games

[@Steph1]

Can you educate us on how hard the game is? Eg do you get wrecked like the first time walking into Rakanishu, blood raven, Andariel or D1 Butcher?

[@Skibblez]

^^

[@bravexheart7]

You will die many times

[@LemosArt0987]

Totally agree with you on respeccing your character and allowing your class to do everything. That's one thing I didn't like about Diablo 3. I liked having a dedicated character for a build in D2, like two Druids one for Werewolf the other for Wind. It makes the characters feel like they have more of an identity as opposed to it being a class that you can put different armor sets on and then respec easily to play another build.

[@questor55]

Blizz has moved further and further into convenience. A respec in WoW takes ten seconds and is free. This always comes at the expense of an identity.

[@mr.m42]

I disagree. Allows us to experiment with builds instead of starting over and having to grind it out all over again just to try something different.

[@PistokoTheComeBack]

@@mr.m42 You must learn.

[@bipolarexpress9827]

@@PistokoTheComeBack it leads to people just making the same cookie cutter builds. Look at everyone using the same exact skills with the same exact rune words in Diablo 2. Wow so much creativity and learning going on there. So great.

[@HighLanderPonyYT]

All that does is wasting your time, requiring to build up characters.

[@FishYourHeartOut]

When loot drops will it be like D2 and ANYONE can grab it or D3 where its my char only loot? Haven't heard anyone talk on that point?

[@shattered-reflection8045]

I have always hated the bind on account garbage ever since I first experienced it in world of Warcraft. I understand that they are trying to do this too obstruct D2JSP as well as other sites from changing the game aspects but there has to be a better way. Those sites and other people will always find a way

[@matt80_s]

It's funny they did that because d2jsp is the only thing breathing life Into the franchise.

[@shattered-reflection8045]

@@matt80_s definitely agree with that for the current games most likely. I'll be honest though, I think people would enjoy the game much more if they didn't use sources like JSP. Things are always better when you have to work for them. I actually loved the Gold auction house on Diablo 3. I thought that was a great way for them to make use of gold aside from repairs lol

[@FoodDipFan]

​@@shattered-reflection8045 I think D2R would benefit heavily from an official trade website that doesn't utilize real money but Blizzard just can't resist the temptation to monetize their games further. If they made a trade website, it would have a real money option 100%.

[@matt80_s]

@Shattered-Reflection most definitely but the trade stytem in d2 resulted in jsp becoming huge.

[@Resouler]

@@FoodDipFan i think d2r would benefit heavily from a chat that does work propercly and game descriptions that actually show up.

[@GuySmithSmoke]

My expectation for this is a Diablo 3 with more maps. Hopefully I'm wrong.

[@jarnonooij80]

One major, major concern I have but haven't seen adressed (or missed it completely) is I hate the class specific drops... I love how D2 works, random drops... that is the MAIN fun for me in Diablo, chasing different items, getting an item or 2 for another class... then deciding to build around that!

[@Smilesdavis-md1fk]

Yeah…….. what makes d2 and d2r so special are runes, jewels, and charms. If they don’t have that I’m not paying or playing. The grind in d2 to finally see a ber drop or Jah rune or a 3/20/20 small charm is what makes d2 so much better. And the skill tree. But mostly the items.

[@J16179]

Is it only click to move? Or can you wasd move. Do you also know if they added controller support?

[@papapetad]

Boss difficulty is important. They must dig deep into POE and find a balance that suits D4. Dying to Hillock before even reaching town in POE is a legendary move. Wakes you up to the need for attention and skill, as does the difficulty spike when you reach act 6 after resists drop significantly "oh, resists are important, OK". And that ties into the intricacy and detail of POE builds. It should be a major source of inspiration because it is damn cool. Other than that, the look seems pretty spot on even for a beta demo. I do hope it does well and honours the D2 legacy while being a proper superlative to it. Looking forward to seeing more!

[@Resouler]

are u talking about brutal or whatever the fuck they call that ?:D cause never died to hillock

[@JB-qq1xz]

Give me fast paced POE not watered down, slow, no trading, no PvP. I’d play d3 if I wanted that crap

[@_Minecraft_ASMR]

@@JB-qq1xz Fuck POE and fuck D4

[@papapetad]

@@Resouler I haven't played many rpg's but meeting Hillock for the first time in POE barely a couple minutes into the game before you even reach town is a nice WTF moment. When you come from something like Diablo or indeed most games, you don't have anything that tells you to watch the F out right away. I think that's a really cool aspect of POE. Many argue that end game bosses are too much but I have no complaints about that. It's a fair reward for mastering the game. Anyway, overall, I just think there are a ton of things POE does right in the genre and Diablo could get inspiration from it while keeping true to the style of the OG. After all, POE took cues from Diablo. I think it's good to have both games offering a different take on the same concept but D4 has a lot to live up to and exceed. Blizzard have had a ton of time to work it out and a lot of criticism from the hardcore D2 following ^^ Should be interesting. Looks promising so far.

[@elyseaeternitalis7662]

@@JB-qq1xz No trading, slow LMAO nice troll go play the game and come back to us when it's done.

[@Vexrak]

I'm not buying or playing if trading is restricted. Maybe if it has hardcore permadeath open world pvp/pk zones i would play

[@leptinainccm]

If they restrict trade im not playing tbh. I think trade being fully open is one of the things that helped create community in d2. You can't necessarily get all the loot you want on your own. If you want players to interact with each other, then you have to install mechanics that make players interact with each other.

[@Blob_Marley]

Totally agree. I am afraid Blizzard is focusing too much on self sufficiency and the game will be a single player experience and friends may as well be NPCs.

[@Resouler]

but hey the point here is to sell you another diablo that doesn't come close to d2

[@Resouler]

@@Blob_Marley i dont play singleplayer games, they can mask it as multiplayer , still not gonna play it.

[@666TheMetalmaniac666]

Trade is good if platforms like d2jsp didn't exist. As it is of now l prefer no trade as wealth accumulated from d2jsp go over to a brand new game in terms of purchase power. And ladders feel bad since not every one is on the same wealth lvl.

[@Resouler]

@@666TheMetalmaniac666 wealth accumlated anywhere goes into a new game , jsp or not also no trading makes the game less fun . who cares if not everyone on the same wealth level like if you would solve that problem with no trade huh ? ... fcking mental, do you think a lot when you leave a comment like that btw?

[@sergueileonardoafonin7950]

IF it would be in spirit of D2 (or D2R) you would roam the open world forever while dealing with harder mobs and finding no healing pots or shrines. Would feel like a survival mode experience with a cool char.

[@blaynegreiner9365]

That wouldn't be the spirit of D2, though lol That is nothing like D2 and more like V Rising. Don't get me wrong, V Rising is a fun, cool game for what it is, but it is not a Diablo game.

[@justincampbell3132]

A true spirit of D2 would be having 4 inventory space and having to go back to town every 2 seconds to sell or stop everything you're doing to play Tetris in your bag menu.

[@messiahshow]

​@@justincampbell3132 Yeah I hate that with D2, I know people are licking D2's ass but let's be honest it have a lot of flaws with todays standard. Like no real end-game, sparse stash room, need for half inventory filled with potions and stupid charms. All that could have their own smaller belt or stash slot and most likely would in modern games. The stop motion of spells and such is not really that great either considering the flow Diablo 3 got with the rifts which was a nice thing in it's own way. And even though D2 have a lot of great and iconic sounds that are top notch a lot of the sounds are also crappy and makes no sense to what is happening on screen. Spells and skills GFX for some characters are a bit underwheling as well even if I do enjoy the less glow and sparks and so on that fly in overload in D3 even from arrows and melee heroes. The bigger skills still need to have some meat to them and they don't always in D2 which makes your pretty high leveled character still feel like a level 1. So a nicer progression of getting stronger and looking more badass with more and more great looking skills is a must to engage me these days. More blood, teeth and sweat flying from enemies when hit and less sparks and japanese inspired anime effects in my opinion.

[@sergueileonardoafonin7950]

@@justincampbell3132 that too ))

[@dontneedtoknow3099]

Any restrictions/ items / un achievable content if we were to play solo?

[@OneCreativeNickName]

I don’t get it. Why is dropping an item on the floor for others to pick up and use is such a foreign concept for these guys. Forget about trading. How about coop team play, sharing loot, playing the game with your buddies? Would it make sense to share all the stuff you find without ambiguous restrictions? Like Helloooo… Blizzard. Are you making a community experience game or what?

[@scdogg444]

I don't get it, why is any item that drops immediately gets a price value because of 3rd party websites, forums and sale sites. Why do players spend thousands of dollars to win in pvp for a fully decked out character. I don't get why d2 is flooded with spam chats selling items. Hell even the Chaos Sanctuary discord even PROMOTES Chinese bot items shops. See where I'm going with this?

[@FunFunFun120]

@@scdogg444 because D2 has a thriving economy. All the things you listed exist in the real world too. If you design a game well with good itemization, items will have real world value.

[@scdogg444]

@@FunFunFun120 thriving economy??? You're funny. The market is so flooded by the time I even FIND and Ist or a Vex rune it's worthless.

[@showmetheway2]

​@@scdogg444 Exactly! I get why people want it, but it will clearly allow third party people to ruin the game. It's time we accepted this.

[@OneCreativeNickName]

Guys, some people buy, others don’t. Can’t generalize everything based on one aspect. I also said that if you decouple trading - there is no coop/community fun of playing together. You just keep what you find and can’t give your buddy that bow you just found, for example. I would rather have a choice of trading and sharing openly vs doing the holy grail first and then start to enjoy the game building classes.

[@Iridiot]

when D3 had a level restriction for Beta , that's because they have done nothing for end game then . If they have this restriction again for D4 ... then that would mean they don't have any good end game

[@girthpapi]

The more I see from the beta, the more my excitement dies. It seems the only thing they're really getting right is atmosphere and combat, which is great, but the systems and itemization have been looking surface level since the dev blogs and nothing has been shown since to reassure any of it has been changed or improved. I dunno, I know beta isn't the whole picture, and I don't want to shit on people's excitement, but I'm tempering my expectations big time.

[@chrismoore1372]

JUST LIKE D3 :() :() :()

[@Skibblez]

Don't worry most vets to diablo I'm sure aren't excited, I'm not at all hyped nor do I have high expectations, I hope people learn to not pre-order just because it's a "diablo" game. We gotta stop that mentality or they will keep stealing our hard earned money. It's been 10 years and this literally looks like a reskinned "darker" d3, so sad...

[@69mihail96]

I wish they brought back the runeword system and crafting system as well (not the one they had in D3), it's super cool imo and makes D2 really stand out.

[@jiddick]

Just looking at the damage ranges (1300-1500) when attacking monsters is a really bad sign of crazy scope creep. It is so difficult for the player to get a grasp of the normal damage ranges when you start with so high ranges.

[@Netherlag1]

They shouldn't even have started actually creating the game before designing and establishing a proper loot system/ itemization. That should have been the first step, but right now it seems like the itemization is not more than an afterthought. Like instead of taking D2 and improving on it, they took D3 and tried improving on it. Why?? When D2 itemization was already miles ahead.

[@stanimir5F]

When did you played that beta you are reviewing? Because I also had access to the closed end-game beta and I had access to all classes (tested only sorcerer, necromancer and rogue though) and get to level 62 with the sorcerer. I didn't have restrictions in terms of zones and managed to get to the 4th difficulty (hell) but I didn't have access to any cinematics/storylines. Well there were side-quests (optional) but none of the main storyline. Is that another beta you are talking about earlier or there was a parallel beta during the same time?

[@abrasivepartyc5416]

I'll likely play through the story, invest a month or 2, then go back to Diablo 2 for another 20x years or so waiting to see if Diablo 5 is any better. Same thing I did with D3! :D

[@Skibblez]

^^

[@K.O.F.M.R]

Blizzard/Activision won't have me pre-order anything anymore. Lets see how the game is in 6 monts

[@PlaymeoffSia]

Hey, I remember watching you 2018, early 2019 when I living in a shelter and playing d2 plugY on a laptop, nice to see that your channel has grown! Unfortunately I accidentally formatted the USB drive where I had my singleplayer self-found characters and lost my Necro with 325% infinity merc, enigma etc. I've been on the D4 closed beta but I havn't been playing much lately because of the new WoW expansion and Starcraft. I think D4 needs alot of more dev time though as it is, the gameplay and content is kinda lacking to my tastes. Wish you all the best!

[@59fiftyD2R]

Where their any runes/runewords available during your testing? Thx for the review!

[@mrzazou3556]

No

[@jasonantbro]

1) The "spitting out of enemies" health globes/potions is a big turnoff for me. Not sure how much integrated they are with the game system (skills, buffs etc), but I would prefer something less "flashy" - It takes away from the darkness and grittiness. It feels like Sonic will jump in to collect coins >o< 2) No more inventory tetris - neither cold or hot on this one - probably less trips to town = more time out in the wild 3) The inventory and the item artwork is almost identical to D3 - not a big fun - it always felt a bit lifeless, like an afterthought - I would prefer for them to try something new - it's not like this was a major concept success in D3 4) Did I mention the health globes? >_< 5) The UI seems a bit....small? Not enough gravitas maybe? - can't really put my finger on it 6) Damage numbers are identical to D3 - not a fan - I guess you can just turn them off 7) I do like the environments and the overall atmosphere - at least from what we have seen so far 8) Skill tree looks decent - I think it will work 9) Character customization - I dig it - let people create and live their fantasies! - looks deep enough (but not too complicated to bog you down) 10) No health globes plz - it will hurt my moew-moew :(

[@SaltedKillick]

Personally i dont like the big flashy 10 million animations which puts out pallet of bright color. Imo, looks like repainted D3 geometry and architecture. Agree with the globes. I bet many of D3's sounds are still front and center. I still can't bring myself to finish D3 but still play modded d2 religiously.

[@askowalc]

This actually sounds pretty cool. I like the balance changes, and that it won't just be like D3 (being someone who started at D2, has enjoyed D3 a lot in the past, but lately has been all about D2R). Very intrigued and hyped about the game after this video! Thank you for posting the review! @Dbrunski125

[@DeathbringerDrago]

Everyone needs to spek out about LAN PLAY Or OFFLINE P:LAY with NO internet.

[@gabenewelltheprotector3548]

@@DeathbringerDrago Serious question. But what is significance of this? Just so you can host a LAN party and not have to deal with outside servers?

[@DeathbringerDrago]

@@gabenewelltheprotector3548 The significance of this is being free to play your game you bought with your own money OFFLINE without blowshard err blizzard being able to practice tyranny against its players. You people who are condoning online play only are brainwashed and there's no hope for you as far as standing up to blowshard err blizzard to stop this nonsense. If I lose internet I should be able to fully play this game. Tornado bad storms or anything can happen to knock a persons internet out for weeks on end. At that point BLOWZhard err Blizzard is not providing a service to the gamer at all. Making someone pay for something and not providing a service is against the law. Make it happen BLOWSHARD err blizzard. Offline play or lose popularity even more.

[@DeathbringerDrago]

Let the trolling begin.

[@goshu7009]

@@DeathbringerDrago You are correct. But on the other hand, you agreed to play for a product. YOu accepted the terms. I also preffer to have an offline mode and dont understand why they dont put it. I guess is from greed....... In general, computer games are stupid and not very well craeted with purpose. They are trying to put the new generation in the VR and all that crap. The old games with keyboard and mouse are in its last years, trust me on that. And its made artificially, its not a natural thing.

[@88schem]

Great video - just wondering, any stat point allocation when you level?

[@FnaAuto]

Doubt it, seems like they just want a mindless hack and slash that anyone can beat without effort

[@palpaladin315]

It sounds like a slowed down version of D3 to me. D4 needs to be forward progression from D3. They cracked open D2r, if they want to do more for that game; its software, no ones stopping them, and they should. Its never too late.

[@mk.gurenzero9434]

I totaly agree with everything said just a couple of questions, was you starting area limited when you were playing and was there a restriction for the character lever of some sort like being capped at level 25?

[@alexcunningham9012]

Literally the first things he said lol

[@a-aron14]

Haha this comes off as a review from a prison held at gunpoint reading a cue card, but appreciate you saying what you could say about it! :)

[@DiabloSlayer88]

DB what made you join the Maxroll team? GG vids man always enjoy them

[@Dbrunski125]

*Quick note. You can't trade extracted Legendary affixes at the moment. Would be a cool compromise though for the trading community if you could though. The intention here is you can still salvage a really rare legendary quality even if it drops for a different character. Hope you enjoyed the review and are as excited for D4 as I am !!!* Discord: discord.gg/xy3EynP Support the Stream !! streamelements.com/se-6922588/tip Become a Channel Member !! kzbin.info/door/Fc8CBNDUFLc1hN5UayNR8gjoin Twitch: www.twitch.tv/dbrunski125

[@_-_945]

🙏 great video. Appreciate the content!

[@hotpancakes9814]

wow that’s weird, from what i read about the end game beta you could trade extracted legendary affixes. that’s a disappointing change if true

[@pokedadsam9041]

I think this is good. To be honest it makes high stat GG rares more valuable. Becuase now you can take that GG rare and slam a legendary aspect from a garbage roll legendary you smashed

[@rollcageuk]

as long as I don't need to kill diablo 200 times to try and get a rare drop or rune then it's fine. D3 had loot too easily, but D2 was ridiculous with some items being so rare they are next to impossible to get for anyone who is not completely committed. The runes needed for some "mandatory" items were ridiculous.

[@kadafibawss1902]

Just looks like D3 with toned down colours. Still missing the sense of dread from D1 and D2. World is too welcoming, feels like the monsters have just been mopping the floor waiting for the player instead of the hopeless barren wasteland that was D1 and D2. Also where is the music ? These games were defined by the creepy and rustic music constantly playing in the background. D4 is just silent ? Come on Blizzard.

[@Entropix41]

Is there a way to turn off the floating combat text?

[@michaelmcclung1829]

I have said it before and I will say it again, d2r is exactly what d3 and/or d4 should have been. D2 lod is still the best game ever always has been always will be. I don't like the taking the skills off items and putting them on others, maybe I am just old and set in my ways or maybe I love d2lod to much lol

[@marekcieslak7602]

System requirements please... I currently use i7 7700HQ 16gb ddr4 GTX1070 laptop but planing to change next year with 13th gen Intel and RTX40 mobile series debut. 1440p, highest details and all on in easily worked out 60fps is the target. What platform are you playing on?

[@ryno1745]

Thanks DB! Enjoyed hearing your opinion of the D4 Beta! As more of a D2 fan I am definitely optimistic about D4 and the direction they are taking it. Hopefully they take all the feedback on board and make it the best game it can be! 🤞🙏

[@cheryljenkins3299]

Copium

[@ryno1745]

@Cheryl Jenkins No copium here... I'm of the opinion that D4 actually needs to evolve and modernise from D2... They can't just do a carbon copy of D2 with minor changes like some of these D2 fans expect... Blizzard has got to try please D2 & D3 fan bases while also trying to push D4 ahead of all the other modern ARPGs out there right now... It's impossible to please everyone...🤷‍♂️

[@Unknown-sz8kg]

Copium

[@IzpAH]

is it possible to disable the damage numbers ?

[@chrisjones6002]

The respec options in D2r are pretty good I think. It's not unlimited but not super difficult either. I used to hate it in the old days of D2 when you would make one little mistake with a character and you either had to live with it or start all over.

[@JoeJoe-mq7xh]

The good old classic days lol

[@yelram6698]

Are there not an unlimited amount of respec tokens?

[@chrisjones6002]

@@yelram6698 you can get as many as you want but you do have to farm or trade for them. There's been a time or two that I wanted one but didn't have it. You could make it a little harder if you wanted but I don't want to have to start a new character instead.

[@razorgames8066]

what video card did you play on? and what about fps?

[@Dbrunski125]

3080ti and 4080. both ultra quality 1440p 165 refresh rate monitor

[@Ekinpot]

The title should be "restricted review"

[@slaypner4997]

Is the characters using the actual weapons in D4 or is it just skillanimations like in D3?

[@KvotheD]

Thank you for the video DB, very informative (considering limitations) and interesting! I'm still not over that i had no opportunity to try closed beta as 2.5 years Diablo content creator. sigh :/

[@Bowazon]

Do we know if anyone outside of the NA region got beta access?

[@KvotheD]

@@Bowazon closed beta - yes. This kind of press beta - don't know

[@KvotheD]

@@Bowazon just searched for diablo 4 and upload time today - there are a lot of vids from that beta.

[@Bowazon]

@@KvotheD can't.... too busy being excited over making a Rogue for D4 🥹

[@burningheart2909]

I want respec to be reasonable, not a job. Also, up to 20% more camera zoom out would be nice. Map overlay. Quick dialogue. What do you all think?

[@Resouler]

no expectations here, if it survives a year might try it but not gonna get suckered into another diablo again that can't beat d2

[@emmanuelguerrero3071]

What Diablo game hasn’t survived? So in other words you will be playing, just a year later. Why not just say that then? Also D2 is not AS great as people make it out to be. It isn’t flawless… Ive played all of it and in hardcore. Its at its best in hardcore classic. Or fresh ladder hardcore expansion. Even then the dsjp community, dupping ruins any real competition. Its a silly game at times with its silly merchant aura meta among other weird things. Im personally over it as you can tell.

[@frizzman1991]

I like limited respecs, perhaps gated to max level. I loved the thought and consideration that went into building my character back in the day. Other great examples include Dark Souls and Bloodborne. It makes my decisions feel more impactful in a way that I enjoy... though I certainly understand not sharing that feeling.

[@devosb85]

But do you already know your full spec when starting the game? You gonna make 5 barbs to test & feel how they play and what you like the most?

[@kingVibe111]

You can give yourself head pats for your epic choices in skill point allocation all you want but easy respecs aren’t hurting anyone.

[@taper3595]

Great video! I was just kinda confused on the trading part of legendary aspects. According to some other yt videos on the press release beta, the uniques, legendaries and their aspects will be account-bind items and therefore untradable. This would make the trading system useless imo since it wouldn't matter in the early (frequent gear changes) nor the late game (focus on legendaries and uniques). Hopefully they will change this later on and implement a trading system instead of just having a trading chat section.

[@christopherpaulo6818]

You can turn rares into legendaries through crafting. So you’ll be able to trade those God roll items. But I agree with you.

[@taper3595]

@@christopherpaulo6818 I might be wrong here but from what I've heard you can unlock the codex's legendary aspects just by completing dungeons (so it's gonna be relatively easy to obtain) and if you apply that aspect to your weapon you will only get the base roll (for example if a legendary aspect can add12%-24% dmg, if you add it from the codex you will always get 12%). If this is correct, people still won't pay as much or at all for these types of legendaries. But I recently realized that there will be tons of necessary materials for crafting so I guess these could be selling a lot.

[@thomasgoode7322]

On progression and loot/gear: Good. class/build viability throughout the game is so important. I hated, and still hate trying to find 5/6 1-in-a-billion items in hopes that you can SOMEDAY MAYBE play a build. Love the chase, hate the abysmal play without god tier items.

[@douglasduda9826]

One thing I learned from playing a awesome diablo 2 mod that few people know of (Eastern Sun) is that having TONS of different items constantly dropping that are all useful in different ways creates a Addictive and fun as well as rewarding feel. Its not quite there in the base game. I can't do wow because all you do after you max lvl is case items from dungeons and raids to get a tiny upgrade in stats... if players do not feel rewarded they won't play.

[@brokoryfoods]

I am a solo/party self find player. Don't care about trade. But there should be the option to trade anything if you want. Or make a serve where trade is allowed and another server for players who like self find journey.

[@joejoe722]

sounds cool, I hope they expand the crafting aspect such as rune words and cube recipes

[@_Minecraft_ASMR]

Confirmed not to be such a thing

[@alexcunningham9012]

@@_Minecraft_ASMR runes are confirmed to be in the game, but not at launch. probably first dlc, like d2 classic to lod

[@_Minecraft_ASMR]

@@alexcunningham9012 Runes have been confirmed by devs to NOT be in the game or to be included.

[@alexcunningham9012]

@@_Minecraft_ASMR I think my comment got deleted because I linked the gamepur article but you can search it if you want. There was a group interview with Joe Shely on Dec 7, 2022 where he said they will add them in the future, just not at launch. "Diablo IV game director Joe Shely confirmed to Gamepur in a group interview that Runes aren’t in the right place that the development team wants them to be in at this point in time, so the Rune system won’t be available at launch. “Players who engaged with Runes in Diablo II have a very specific expectation about what that word means in the context of Diablo,” Shely said. “The design that we were discussing for Runes back at that time [BlizzCon 2019] was a different design that took Runes in a different direction. As we’ve continued to develop the game, we’ve thought about how important it is to make sure that when we say, ‘Hey, we’re adding Runes to the game,’ for players who remember those from previous experiences, that they live up to their expectations.” Shely continued, “We’re going to take a little bit more time to make sure we get Runes right, and so they won’t appear at launch.”

[@cuneoluis]

You are the only person i would listen talk about this game

[@gargantuaatroli1423]

Diablo 2 and Resurrected forever❤

[@Resouler]

just fix chat and descriptions :@

[@Ghidorah00]

Unlimited customization with little cost is a catastrophic design choice for a RPG. If I don’t have weight behind my character decisions I stop caring.

[@alpaca2328]

I really hated the drop on level unique with cringy effects instead of d2 specific level uniques with awesome stats as anchor point for your build. Really missed that, the rush you get from dropping an anchor point is kinda gone now.

[@ZxLayER]

What’s the concern about preordering?

[@AaronWOfficial]

I like the approach they took with character progression better than diablo 2's this time around. The main problem with diablo 2 is to be efficient u had to do a "leveling build" to get through normal and nightmare fast, and then use 1 of ur 3 free respecs later to go to ur endgame build. And then to get more respecs you have to farm for the token which was quite annoying. Now not only do u not have to do this leveling build anymore and can just play whatever path you like the look of, ur respecs are only limited to how much resources you have. I know many ppl may think this is "less hardcore" but imo its not. Being more restricted on builds isn't hard, it just limits ur freedom on how you want to play and many players like myself find it annoying. It is not a huge problem in diablo 2 since diablo 2's length is not that big and you can get through normal in an hour easily, that is why hardly anyone complained about it because it was just a minor annoyance. This game however seems like its going to be much longer than diablo 2 (especially since they announced seasonal updates with new acts added to the story and stuff like this), so it makes sense to make the builds less restrictive this time around.

[@buffalotitan6123]

I guess making you think about the choices you make is bad. Tokens added another level of depth to the game, and God forbid if you have to farm them then randomly come across another good item along the way. Lets just give everyone what they want at all times. Progression in Diablo 2 was basic, which was a good thing. There was no specific leveling build because there were no immunities until end of Nightmare beginning of Hell difficulty, so what are you talking about? You could literally be any build up until that point, and all you needed was a sunder charm to literally do any build you wanted. You must have started D2 when D2R came out because your response reminds me of a retail WoW player.

[@swistedfilms]

There seems to be a lot of screen clutter as you're fighting. I hope there's a way to turn that off. Also, let's see if this absolutely requires an internet connection like D3 did. If I can't play without an internet connection then I don't want to play.

[@d8l835]

1:50 the second you said this, the footage looks IDENTICAL to d3 lol. You could have told me that was d3 and not d4 and i would have absolutely believed you

[@Dbrunski125]

I mean yes they are both top down viewpoints on a character casting spells or initiating attacks lol.... but you can't tell a difference in game pace or color palet? idk fair enough

[@Digitt6]

@@Dbrunski125 it really looks like d3 but with a darker color palette. Go compare the graphics to the path of exile 2 footage. Even d2r looks way better than d4 is looking. Very disappointed with their visuals

[@Dbrunski125]

I thibk the game looks better than d2r. To each is own

[@d8l835]

@@Dbrunski125 im not trying to throw shade or start an overdone flame war between d3 and d2 lol. Honestly just all the huge numbers and stuff flying in this little corridor as hes blitzing through there just gave me major d3 vibes. Its been ages so i could be way off base, just thought it was funny coincidence at the exact second you were saying it thats what i felt

[@Dbrunski125]

@@d8l835 I respect the difference of opinion. Apologies if I came off as a dick. Been taking a lot of flak for just saying I mostly enjoy the game so far

[@setasan]

Jist a small thing, I HATE those damage numbers popping there. Can you disable it?

[@Dbrunski125]

Yes

[@Lonoty]

I agree 100% about choices being meaningful with the limited respect. Unlimited respect is just meh...

[@MindlessTube]

Nah leveling new characters is so boring, i rather be able to respec.

[@zachkoa]

@mindlesstube agreed. I don't wanna dump most of my gameplay hours into leveling up new chars trying to figure out the best build. And I'm sure the casual player doesn't want to either lol

[@SaltedKillick]

Put a huge in-game coin $ cost on it after the first batch of respecs. That'll balance it out.

[@jbghumanjr]

Ty for this! BEYYOONNDD stoked for this game!!!

[@jeezybaby43]

Never clicked on a video so fast

[@MW-zy5gi]

can you play with WASD for movement on keyboard?

[@refikalpertuncer8512]

This time i will definitely wait and observe the game for at least a month after it is released before i purchase it. Won't make the same mistake as i did with D3 ten years ago. I have been playing D2 (now D2R) for 20 years and if D4 turns out like D3 then it is D2 forever for me.

[@ivantodorov8850]

Smart decision. People must stop giving money for half baked products.

[@obZen327]

How did u not even talk about the actual itemization / affixes on the gear. Weapon dmg, stats, unique and in-depth affixes, etc.. Prolly cause it’s exactly like d3, which blows.

[@maxdg6504]

Class design, tree design, and boss difficulty are very important. It seems Blizzard did not want to take a lot of risk with the tree, and basically, if you want to play a fire sorcerer, you place points into the fire abilities in your tree. POE is extremely difficult, and not for everybody, I feel D4 could have went half way, but instead, they did not take any risk. I doubt there is any great combo to discover in the tree, most characters will be exactly the same with the tree they designed.

[@bravexheart7]

Completely false .. there many many build options

[@alexchorel-campanozzi8275]

Am I the only that finds very unappealing all those big dmg numbers? In the video we saw transition from 12 dmg (which is fine) to 3000 dmg very quickly in a progression I assume is from lvl 1 to 25

[@overbored1337]

I didn't like it. Hopefully there is an option to turn it off..

[@Wicked_Goblin]

Yeah you cant trade legendarys im out

[@onurerdogan4647]

great comments, was it made on gunpoint?

[@Dbrunski125]

it was. no probable possibility that the game is even remotely good.

[@dmtr1287]

Thanks for you video mate. And well that's too bad news. As far as i understood from your video there is no ultra-rare uniques like in D2(griffon and etc for example) and there are heavy restricted trade. Let's be fair - it's garbage Diablo 3 system again. There are no excuse for this. Honestly i probably wouldn't even buy this game.

[@kolai1987]

I didn't hear this in the video. I heard that you can play a build from the jump without needing to grind for a specific piece of gear that makes the build 'viable'. I heard in the video that there still will be chase items to grind for.

[@Dbrunski125]

Nope there is ultra rare chase items in the end game that are very difficult to find and are big power gains for your build. It differs from d2 as in builds aren't locked behind insane to find items to be viable. Like how a javazon requires griffins and infinity merc to be worth using.

[@FoodDipFan]

@@Dbrunski125 To be fair, Diablo 3 also has those items too. You have to grind for ancient primals which requires you to wade through thousands of legendaries.

[@Dbrunski125]

@@FoodDipFan yup that is accurate

[@ethan007]

@@Dbrunski125 unless things are changed from the close beta, i doubt there are really this super rare power gain gear for endgame, or does they mean the ancestral tier gears, then it is going to be a very boring endgame gear grind, due to the fact that you can get the same uniques from a lower tier, say sacred tier, so i presume what the dev meant is, you will still do fine with your build using this sacred unique but the super rare one is the same unique but an ancestral tier (yes that is super rare from the beta). Just my 2cent

[@wildwest1832]

The affix or limited trading is just a game of semantics. Its will be min-maxed quickly, and those are either valuable/rare or not. If they are not trade dies off quickly because no one cares and they focus on the valuable rare end game items/mods. If they are then you get bots and it turns into exactly like D2 with all trading focused on those valuable items. Its an illusion of choice that most people dont really understand, and later on will see what happens