DIALING IN BRUTAL DRUMS w/ Vildjharta & Buster Odeholm

Buster Odeholm mixes the guitars in "Den Helige Anden" by Vildjharta
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[@youtubechannelyo188]

Next video: AMAZING drum tones by Buster Odeholm - All guitar mixing.

[@nihilisticinquisition7150]

So in order to get a heavy af guitar tone I need to put Saturn on snare, kick and toms? Awesome, thanks URM!

[@mauricioacasiete4555]

Same xd

[@hannibalbarkas1350]

Well, it's called a mix. The guitar alone can sound like a fart in the wind for all I care as long as the mix fucks ya know.

[@nihilisticinquisition7150]

@@hannibalbarkas1350 I guess we can assume that most people are aware of that. I always like Buster as a guest on the show - I think his mixes are great and he did an outstandingly good job on the new Vilhjarta Record. But don't you agree that a video called "DAMN THOSE GUITARS ARE HEAVY!!" in which there is not a single guitar tone to be heard nor any sort of reference to guitar is at least a bit...misleading?

[@hannibalbarkas1350]

@@nihilisticinquisition7150 Yea I get your point

[@nenntmichbond]

Yes, I think they got their clips meddled up here

[@DantesGrill]

"when you're attaching it to the snare you're urunh... teh.... smnia?" "Yeah." ... "YES"

[@xGIJewx]

Whoever runs the KZbin channel is dropping the ball lately.

[@deverlines]

This guitar tone amazing!!!

[@colorsunseen]

Damn these vocals are just crushing! Didn't know you can do that using only Omnisphere. Anyway I love Periphery, glad he joined them, his bass parts are phenomenal. 🌚

[@BillyPalmerMusic]

what a comment colors

[@valerinaatas]

Best comment ever😂😂😂

[@rowanjeffree1094]

Good video, nothing to do with guitars tho

[@ColtonVanceMusic]

He’s creating space for the guitars dude. It’s a starting point to the whole mix for him.

[@hannibalbarkas1350]

@@ColtonVanceMusic Yea getting a guitar tone is the ez part. Just throw on some Neural DSP thing and low cut the bass in front of it lol.

[@DarkerThan00]

Saturn can seriously be used on every channel, it's a gem

[@norwardradtke1361]

Hahah at 17 mins I “out loud” said “wow really?!?” And he responded a half second later in the video “yeah really” 😂

[@jackclay9145]

Buster is truly a gift to the genre, this man is a prodigy

[@MartinBellamyMBDrums]

those guitars sound a heck of a lot like drums to me LOL Im glad I checked this one out. Awesome tips!

[@XiyuYang]

Here's something I've been doing: use the envelope follower in Saturn 2 to modulate the amount of drive and pre-drive EQ parameters - essentially controlling drum room sound like a reverb, you can dial in shorter "decay" for high frequency bands while lengthening the sustain for lower frequency bands. Saturn 2 is a *really deep* plugin, I feel like I can accomplish the majority of my mix just with this plugin.

[@norwardradtke1361]

Oh dude Map the ext sidechain/envelope follower to the dynamic knob and it’ll tighten up the room the same way

[@mee887]

Nice video. Please do the video on Vildhjarta guitar tone. It's always been a big mystery on Vildhjarta guitar tone.

[@silenc9]

They'll probably never reveal that. And it's understandable

[@sirbonple]

im trying to reply with tips on vildhjartas tone but youtube keeps deleting my comments for literally no reason :D im gonna try to split the comment up into multiple comments and hopefully yt will keep it up

[@sirbonple]

“they're nothing spectacular tho, the djent is pretty much the bigbottom with the t-75 cab off axis..the fx booster ON (important to find the guitars midrange sweetspot, would recommend jerking around on values from 46-52 on the mid freq knob on the fx-booster). i also use a boss-ge7 infront of the pod boosting some volume and cutting some low endish grease hope this helps a bit =) edit: bigbottoms mid at max”

[@sirbonple]

they use line 6 pod xt’s with the bigbottom amp and with lundgren m7 pickups. i’m not sure about the specifics for under vatten, but i found calle thomer’s profile on sevenstring (his username is “seyd”) and this is what he said about his guitar tone back when masstaden first came out

[@ryanberry5594]

those heavy guitars sound a hell of a lot like drums to me

[@rmp5s]

And not a single guitar was heard...😆

[@svarogstudio]

Wrong title aside, the thumbnail just about sums up my mixing... saturn on everything

[@nenntmichbond]

Absolutely! Please show me your nix using saturation only, sure sounds great

[@svarogstudio]

@@nenntmichbond Didn't say only, saturation amongst other things of course.

[@dayanmcar7578]

Vildhjarta guitar mixing please!

[@aftertheendtimes]

Buster! I think you way to mix and shape the sound is in it's own league, you are a bit of a treasure, Wish you a awesome 2024 wish you also health and new creative path's thank you a ton man for your presence 🤘🎸🙏🙏🙏

[@norwardradtke1361]

In FF Saturn you can get the room sound to disappear by turning the dynamics knob all the way to the left, this same trick works for mic bleed. It just tightens up the transients and works as a subtle gate on your sounds. Try to to get the the hi hat bleed or room sound out of your snare

[@norwardradtke1361]

Wow literally the trick I just commented is the first suggested video under this one….thanks Allmind

[@JoeyC4D]

When designing I always get the "hotkey" tips, its cool to see how buster handles that in the moment, they are useful but learning them on the spot is so difficult personally

[@MrMapacheco]

don't mind me, just yoinking this preset for personal purposes

[@tumaggz]

Been an avid user of Saturn for years, on about everything. Love the reassurance from one of my favorites!

[@jonborrmann3124]

Heavy guitars, my ass.. Dont think I heard one guitar riff.. all drums..🤨

[@KRayxKodessA]

I watch these videos with great interest, and no fucking idea what they're hearing or affecting.

[@jacksmith4460]

if you cant afford saturn, try Klanghelm IVG its great for guitars and loads of other things and is free (saturator/compressor) Its not multi band but you can focus it on a specific area more or apply across the spectrum, also has cross talk which adds width, great for busses

[@nenntmichbond]

You can always split your track into the frequency bands by EQ in the mixer if necessary :)

[@vitrih0lic]

This is awesome stuff!

[@nenntmichbond]

Literally watching the mix right now haha Buster is the best, although I don't love his mix here too much. Will by Abyssal Mouth right after this

[@louistremblay1218]

yeah, i mean he had to start from scratch and had like 2h for the livestream to mix it all, i guess its pretty damn good.

[@nenntmichbond]

@@louistremblay1218 yes, and he wasn't on his usual setup, jet lagged and all. What matters is seeing his techniques and I really just love watching him doing his thing

[@SmConnally1984]

I don't know if this is a dumb question or not but would this work if I don't have a room version of each drum? Like could I just double the kick, snare and toms and apply this to the double, then blend it ... Or would it get out of control since it's not that more distant room mic signal?

[@pitchatan]

Wouldn't work to well (phase issues even if you EQ it), if you want a "room" to work with you can mess around with sending your snare,kick and toms to a reverb with a high mix value... takes some tweaking to get right but it works. I usually did this with reapers reverbs while using various samples that did not have a room sample with them. Another thing you can try is finding free room (or paid..) samples, even if they aren't matched up with your dry samples they can still be used to get good results.

[@kristijanfistrek9055]

Basically his guitar is a kick drum. Got it.

[@MZFKLoose]

My drums started sounding like a guitar - thanks Buster!😀

[@prashuryagoswami6122]

wrong title

[@goatsurgeon]

This is why the Klon pedal has people going nuts, it does the same thing about but it’s analog. Your rig isn’t quite the same without it

[@norwardradtke1361]

Now I’ll have to try the big bottom amp from my pod through fab filter Saturn lol

[@queenpurple8433]

Why not use Saturn 2? Much better quality

[@conorlambert4233]

This was recorded on nail the mix before Saturn 2 was a thing.

[@guacamole2402]

Start from here and work yourself down the comments. It gets weirder and more awkward exponentially :D

[@JBMetalProductions]

dat saturation is spicy bb grl

[@leonidas3357]

Cool I’ll give this a watch if I want my drums to sound fake and over-processed.

[@matforsbon]

You can't blame Freud for this one URM A

[@shreddykruger3612]

i need to get all these plug ins he uses but damn theyre all like $150 plus :(

[@AJDOLDCHANNELARCHIVE]

Drums*

[@martinmorales3195]

Does anyone know what drum samples is he using in this mix?

[@eternalinfestation]

I assume it’s ggd but I need confirmation

[@eternalinfestation]

Invasion specifically

[@BorisFedonin]

Vildhjarta is spelled wrong in title

[@Kannonify]

"Sponsored by Sonnox" * uses a single fabfilter plugin for entire video * (not a criticism, just an observation :P)

[@BrofUJu]

It's for the entire live stream, not just this video which is cut from there.

[@Kannonify]

@@BrofUJu ahhh I see. Welp, still relevant for the context of this video I guess :)

[@nenntmichbond]

@@Kannonify in what way?

[@Zoidberg13197]

YO WHERE THE GUITARS AT

[@ryanAcumming]

Video maybe was mislabeled

[@Darko.mp3]

URM you have such a great thing going, pls don't fuck it up with misleading clickbait-y titles

[@FriedTheo]

Were there acoustic drums recorded for this track?

[@conorlambert4233]

They’re programmed.

[@FriedTheo]

@@conorlambert4233 boo!

[@JUNKO____]

@@conorlambert4233 They were still recorded somewhere, right?

[@nenntmichbond]

@@FriedTheo for some bands it's about clarity and precision over 'trueness' and organic feel

[@SolipsisStudios]

They ended up recording real drums for the album release but these multitracks are for the single version.

[@JamesLewis777]

who's getting in trouble for uploading this wrong

[@thiagoveloso5615]

stick to the title next time please . no guitars

[@disengagetattoos5074]

Did I miss something? lol did they change the title?

[@MegaLaban12345]

Vildhjarta is misspelled in the title. Fix it.

[@BigMuff75]

Boy, thats boring.

[@insertanynameyouwant5311]

1-st version of Saturn? Are you amateur? lol

[@nenntmichbond]

Software will always improve over time. Does that make every nix before the latest update bad?

[@insertanynameyouwant5311]

@@nenntmichbond of course

[@ryken_]

URM is toxic af

[@omnomaly7458]

How is URM toxic? I've only had good interactions in the community and been a member for 3 years

[@ryken_]

@@omnomaly7458 joking...They make very click batey titles and post memes all the time. They know how to get the kids in

[@nenntmichbond]

What

[@Existomalus]

Not a single guitar was heard in this entire video. Guitarists, turn away now to not waste your time.

[@mityaIvanov2023]

WTF !!!! where is the BRRRRRuuutal tone of guitars???? This video about drums!!! I hate drums!!!

[@AsmusThomsen]

BOOOOOOOOOO - clickbait or an honest mistake? If you did this on purpose ... shame on you. If it's a mistake - well, shit happens - I just want to hear some heavy guitars so looking forward to that!!!!

[@nenntmichbond]

Buy the fokken course then haha This is free and this whole channel is golden

[@johnconte9625]

wack