Minecraft's Adventure Update - Replay and Retrospective

[@MrAbgeBrandt]

One of my biggest gripes, that is often overlooked in discussions about Adventure and later, is the animal spawning rules. In beta, you'd have neutral animals come and go, and any grassy part of the map would feel alive during the day at least some of the time. Since Adventure, animals stayed instead of despawning, but also barely any new ones ever spawn in during the game, instead they are spawned with world generation. This has made leather armor harder to come by than iron, and porkchops a really unsustainable form of food. But most importantly, the world feels empty and sterile, and also static. You'll always encounter the same animals that you've fenced in probably, and then never see any other ones around your base.

[@smokagaming]

Very good point! I dont think a lot of people realise this either but I greatly understand wym when you say it makes the world feel static. Its a shame too.

[@badsip]

Yea passive mobs basically spawn in a chunk until a cap is met, then spawning is no longer allowed. I can only assume this change was added since animal breeding was gonna become a thing. And since they probably wanted you to start breeding animals early, they wanted a more natural feeling where you could “exterminate” local populations of animals if you didn’t control yourself.

[@breefolf]

one thing about the adventure update is that minecraft really got its 'look' in this update - if you took a screenshot of 1.7.3 most people would recognize it as old/beta minecraft, while any screenshot past the adventure update would probably just be recognized solely as 'minecraft' - it could be from any version post-adventure update

[@bitnewt]

I think around this time they specifically got an artist to make textures and give the game a more cohesive look instead of it all being done by the programmers.

[@zacharycoleman1117]

@@bitnewtthat was years later. It’s a lot to do with the lighting and color updates.

[@TheBcoolGuy]

1.14 came out in 2019. @@bitnewt

[@BigCheeseEvie]

Agreed

[@Sirhephaestus]

@@bitnewt Ironically making the game look a lot worse.

[@-AAA-147]

I think the brewing stand is based more on alchemy and less on witchcraft. Probably why it looks a bit like a chemistry set since alchemy was basically proto-chemistry.

[@dialko2596]

Fair point

[@veryverbalsquid]

@@dialko2596 your actually just Judeau man. Its crazy!

[@Sapsche]

Mojang originally intended the cauldrons to be the brewing "station" , but they thought the process was too complicated and scrapped the idea, the cauldron itself stayed in the game.

[@charliesnark6535]

​@@Sapschedamn I love the idea of throwing shit in and stirring a cauldron to make my potions I actually like that idea better than the brewing stand as it is, sounds more fun

[@ShiroCh_ID]

@@charliesnark6535 it also gives more sense of discovery and interactions, something like Redstone and Create mod achive in design(and lately trails ruins and trials chambers)

[@BubGames]

i got the game in november 2011 so i grew up with this update. i did play a bit of beta minecraft before this on cracked free to play versions of the game but my most fond memories are from the adventure update.

[@CinnaMochi789]

BUBGAMES?? what are you doing here???

[@kirbogames9664]

eating a sausage roll mate@@CinnaMochi789

[@WammyOfficial]

typical dub for bub

[@parallaxninja456]

Bubgames and Dialko cross over... Never thought this would ever happen but i love it

[@camma...]

holy shit big ups bub massive fan

[@KingHeatray]

"Oh magma cube! I like these guys, adds a little life to the nether" *immediately beats it to death

[@conorjohn490]

20:33 "ok so it's uhh currently night time and currently uh -oh shit" Some things never change.

[@raymondmurdock8603]

As someone who mostly plays modern versions breeding pigs with wheat is so unsettling that just hits an uncanny valley wrongness LMAO

[@dialko2596]

These were the old times. Carrots weren’t even a thought in our tiny brains

[@lordedmundblackadder9321]

I love strongholds because they feel old, but the portal being unbreakable and floating and whatnot feels really ancient, like this old, now-dead, civilization found the portal and built the structure around it, and the fact that there’s sometimes already eyes in there makes me think they tried to activate it and failed? If you know Elder Scrolls lore it really reminds me of the Dwemer trying to activate the Heart of Lorkhan and causing the sudden and unexplainable disappearance of their entire race.

[@__.t0ast._]

Elder scrolls mentioned

[@AbuseForViews]

@@__.t0ast._Wow what an obscure franchise

[@macaroni745]

​@@AbuseForViews kind of other than skyrim

[@Juni_Bowman]

“Tried and failed” as an idea is really funny to me because of how easy it is to make work

[@dopesickdog]

what grand and intoxicating innocence

[@O_______________O]

i only found this channel recently, but im quickly coming to love it, your relaxed commentary style is incredibly refreshing

[@CinnaMochi789]

ikr? It's very cozy almost ASMR like

[@O_______________O]

even the more clasic gameplay style is very relaxing@@CinnaMochi789

[@CinnaMochi789]

True!@@O_______________O

[@StragetyMTG]

IIRC the Xbox 360 version of Minecraft introduced the village before the villagers were implemented, so you found the structures but there were no friendly mobs in sight. It really added an uncanny feeling which I still remember today, walking into a completely undisturbed yet abandoned place and just wondering, "where did everybody go?"

[@maxx_2245]

Same thing with the PC version, actually! There were one or two versions I played on as a kid that just had abandoned villages scattered about. Very uncanny, looking back

[@ShiroCh_ID]

so xbox 360 edition might be based on Java/PC edition beta 1.9 pre relases or something, that one PC version with villages generation but no Villagers or Pigman in sight

[@tennoio1392]

I like the silent black screen pauses between some parts. It adds authenticity and atmosphere to the video.

[@WittyBubblez]

It's like some time was past between the snippets

[@croozerdog]

i remember being really happy with the hunger bar, making lil farms and animal pens and stuff, my friends all hated it

[@MrTerrorM]

I'd say beta was more survival in a way that you couldn't just run from mobs? Like nowadays there is nothing dagerous in minecraft unless you seek it. In beta you have to watch out every time you meet a mob because you can't simply outrun it

[@desdera7583]

sorry but i strongly disagree you can outrun them (was able to outrun spiders downhill without hitting them to slow them down, and they jump) you can easily abuse AI (literally no pathfinding, not sure when they changed it) you can just avoid them during nights xD they don't see that far and you can "sneak" between groups newer versions make it easier in many ways sure, but can't see it was ever about survival besides famous first night, either way you end up shaping the world you created, be it beta or release

[@nwefe]

you can, though?

[@desdera7583]

@@nwefe akeletons, creepers and zombies always, spiders as i said, i tried only downhill, on flat terrain might be an issue, upwards depends

[@nwefe]

@@desdera7583 i mean you can, actually, outrun mobs.

[@turkey_for_life8495]

I would argue it is alot more survival based since 1.19, especially the nether and massive caves,in earlier versions (I.e beta) it is very easy to basically make it that mobs don't spawn due to smaller caves and the nether was had hardly anything.After you beat the ender dragon you don't need to go back..

[@LB_]

8:55 it's because you can't sprint in earlier versions. We got sprinting and hunger at the same time, which completely shattered any difficulty there was in the game when trying to survive against the monsters in the game. Not only could you just run away from any encounter, you could also carry stacks of food instead of having to carefully budget your inventory space. The old food system and lack of sprinting placed much more emphasis on trying to actually survive difficult encounters since you couldn't just run away and you had very limited healing potential.

[@WammyOfficial]

A feature-length film? I'm getting my popcorn

[@dialko2596]

It wasn’t supposed to be this long but… the length certainly got a bit out of hand

[@TheBoyRyansChannel]

​@@dialko2596I believe this is where I say "that's what she said"

[@physis_shenzai]

@@TheBoyRyansChannel no you dont

[@TheBoyRyansChannel]

@@physis_shenzai That's what she said

[@dialko2596]

Who is “she”? Is “she” in the room with us right now?

[@hatmaster7774]

It's so weird watching this video Seeing and listening to someone explain and play this version over like it's new is throwing my brain for loops, but making me nostalgic in many way Whilst I love and honestly prefer a lot of stuff this version brought (minus the generation) I can understand the issues and complaints, especially towards the villagers, so having the different views is really fascinating And finally, thank you for the great content! Been binging a lot of your stuff and love the vibes you give. If you had started up all the ay back in the golden years I 100% could've seen myself watching you Keep up the great work Dialko

[@98_martin90]

I've always felt that the adventure update made the first changes to the game that gave a true foundation to alter the game from a solely sandbox experience into one with story. As you mentioned with the addition of villages it added life into an otherwise lifeless world which has only been further increased which each update since, drastically changing the way I personally feel when I play the game. I'm aware this is widely known but I think it is often missed when discussing the difference in feel between beta and the later versions.

[@dodedidadodadido]

I love the audio quality and the mouse clicking in the background, it reminds me of old let's plays. Sometimes imperfections in videos are kind of nice.

[@kuman0110]

actually it reminds me also of some imperfections you can hear in older versions of Minecraft soundtrack, most prominently piano 1 aka dry hands

[@CinnaMochi789]

This was me and my brother's first Minecraft update so I kind of have a soft spot for it. We had this really crappy computer that ran this game at like 5 frames per second it was magical!

[@alexios7147]

Hope this comment is not too long but I just wanted to share my experience as an old school Minecraft player. I came over from an even older "building/ sandbox" game called Blockland. My friend, his older brother and I used to play Blockland constantly in back in 2008. Then I remember about a year later his older brother was telling us about this new game called Minecraft (he was into game development and I imagine he learned about Minecraft on some forum because he was an incredibly early adopter, pre indev). I remember watching him play and actually disliking it originally because It didn't have weapons or vehicles or anything haha. But once my friends basically quit Blockland to play Minecraft instead I felt the need to try it out. I got in around Alpha 1.1.0 and instantly fell in love. The atmosphere was what made it for me, the game just had this mysterious allure. What I notice a lot of people say is that some look back on pre beta 1.8 with blind nostalgia and that is why its so beloved, but I can give my anecdote to the contrary: I remember hating when the changed the grass color to a more olive green in late Alpha! I remember hating the biome additions/ getting rid of winter mode! I remember hating when they added short grass! I remember when beta 1.8 came out.. I hated every addition! The change in terrain generation, the even more muted colors, hunger, endermen (etc). And when the game was finally officially released.. I just felt like it was not the same game I once loved. It lost its charm and mystery to me. It became too much of an RPG and I was disappointed in the direction development went. I thought it was stupid that this game even had an "ending" not to mention that it felt like a forced joke. Making the entire end of the game be a spin off pun of Slenderman seemed so silly. I remember rumors about the "red dragon" Notch wanted to add, the non-zombie pigmen, overworld strongholds, abandoned villages, heaven dimension. The silly looking villagers, Slenderman pun based (Ending, Dragon, mob) and the RPG mechanics all seemed so awful in their place. I kept playing release for a while but after the old school pure survival servers started dying off in favor of mini games, I quit and I didn't play from 2012-2019 I now have been running a server on the latest versions for the last year, where me and my girlfriend play and I really think the game is now in a better spot than it was in the 1.0 - 1.11 period. The nether update, Ocean update (and others) all work great with the turn the game took back in beta 1.8. If the game is going to have RPG mechanics and bosses, the additions over the last 10 years all make sense and help add that vision. I enjoy the modern game a lot, it's still the best building/sandbox game I have ever played, but nothing will ever come close to the good old days of classic - beta 1.7.3!

[@zacharycoleman1117]

I still miss the old survival servers. I started playing in beta 1.8.1, but I played on one of the last servers of that type for years. I still miss it.

[@austinboi]

where’s the slenderman pun bro, I’m genuinely curious about this now

[@totallynotarobot3651]

@@austinboilol endermen

[@themc3140]

An interesting anecdote about Endermen is that they could've been a nod to creepypastas in general, especially surrounding the game. At the time, due to some model stitching errors, white dots would sometimes appear in caves, starting the urban legend that an entity with white eyes would stalk you while you were in caves. Considering their pitch black skin tone and glowing eyes, I personally feel like this is what endermen were supposed to represent, especially since they were revealed as just a 'creepy mob'. Plus, I don't think the name 'Enderman' was chosen solely because it's a Slenderman pun, Notch only ever referred to it as a 'Subtle Reference'. Anyway, Endermen are probably my favorite of the hostile mobs despite playing beta 1.7.3 a lot more recently, so I guess I felt the need to defend it, lol. Really interesting comment, btw.

[@Garfield_Minecraft]

where is TLDR; of this?

[@leeworley6727]

This update was huge and everyone I knew loved it. Im shocked people didnt like it when it first came out.

[@Geffro]

Ye, I was pretty positive towards the update at the time

[@brunogamesbr1]

It was this update that killed that charm that old beta version had, the game basically felt completely different, I started playing in the beta, i felt that difference, i didn't mind it, but im sure many did and i understand why

[@unnamed7398]

My adventure update experience was soured because my old beta world w/ aether mod my dad installed was ported to beta 1.8 (I was 6 at the time lol). If you ask anyone what they'd rather play it's gonna be the aether mod.

[@Sapsche]

It's way too easy to get sidetracked in modern Minecraft, sidetracked by filler material - which *is* nice to have, but beta is about bare necessities and I guess that's why people say it's more about survival. I get a lot of stuff done while playing beta, whereas in the latest snapshots there's always the thought of "Oh, I haven't got bamboo, I should head out and get some. Oh I haven't got a conduit, I should head out and look for treasure! Oh I haven't got camels yet ..." But at long last, I made sure that I worked off my imaginary list and a lot of the items are only sitting in the chests! It's great that Minecraft flourishes as it does, there have been games before that kept players entertained for more than a decade, but a sandbox game like this has so many options and then some. As long as the community keeps on playing they'll make sure to try to keep them coming for more. Figuratively speaking, of course you can bring your flashy action figures and your model spaceships into the sandbox, but it's quite safe that you'll be too involved playing with those before you actually start building that sand castle that you wanted to and "always dreamed of". Modern life, at least for me, is too fast and cluttered, so at times I prefer a more stripped down version of escapism that is called old Minecraft. Like you already mentioned, that eerie, mystic feeling of being alone is great and it's way more palpable in beta.

[@dialko2596]

Absolutely. The relative simplicity/focus of old versions is one of the main reasons people like them.

[@Emperor_Creeper]

"Enderman are easy to cheese!" *The Enderman proceeds to telelport behind him and continue it's murderous attack!*

[@tobiasseifert549]

nothin' personal kid. *SLASH*

[@Emperor_Creeper]

@@tobiasseifert549 *AAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*

[@LoserLoiue2009]

@@tobiasseifert549DIALKO HAS FALLEN!!!!

[@song6771]

Your little commentary about Villagers, and how just finding Abandoned Villages would have added more to the atmosphere, reminds me of Halo, oddly enough. In the original trilogy, the Forerunners were a mysterious, long lost race who only had left behind their giant constructs and terminals, and the sense of unknown about them added this layer of unease while wandering the Ark and Alpha Halo. But now we've straight up fought Forerunners, we've seen what they look like, and it diminishes the feeling of a civilization long lost.

[@RedSpade37]

Your "Creepy Stuff in Old Minecraft" was a hit! Now I'm going through your channel, and I have a good feeling about this video, too! Minecraft is amazing!

[@aldeenztheman]

Dude, i love the slow-paced, slightly mundane, yet realistic reactions to events makes me feel so relaxed man. This is awesome.

[@lorm_]

I think generated structures provide an opportunity to transform them into something new and more personal. It's another form of inspiration, and as such promotes creativity

[@rumahuoraoksenu]

Completely agree with panes and new chests feeling like something from a mod. They always felt alien and not quite fitting the rest of Minecraft in my eye. Anvils too to some extent. I remember back in Beta we would all just use an iron block for an anvil. In fact, there was a bukkit server mod that let you combine equipment for repairing and that was done by right-clicking on an iron block with each item. Anyway, great retrospective video - looking forward to the future! 😄

[@dialko2596]

Ok so it’s not just me! Imo the worst offenders in modern MC are banners

[@vojtechnology5463]

What about grass and torches? non full blocks have almost always been a part of the game. The thing that you don’t like is that these new additions are a step away from the nostalgic feeling of Minecraft that you like. Ask your self what additions to beta you would like, and if you can’t answer that question then it’s probably because you simply like the feel/vibe/nostalgia of these old versions. Instead of the game taking a fundamentally wrong turn.

[@dialko2596]

@@vojtechnology5463 Grass is definitely the closest to that “non solid” look in beta. Actually there are still some old Minecraft folks who don’t like the grass. Torches kinda too, but they’re so ubiquitous they sorta just blend in. I don’t think it’s about nostalgia (I grew up with glass panes, if anything they’re more nostalgic for me). I just genuinely like the look of solid glass and chests better

[@BanakaiGames]

Wow you mentioning that plugin activated a memory I'd forgotten

[@LordSluggo]

@@vojtechnology5463 It not that window panes are non-full blocks, it's that they're not a division of a cube, taking away from the original aesthetic

[@pollo3122]

I know what you mean at 24:00 while the glass panes look fancy and can add depth to an otherwise "flat-faced" house, I find the blocks more natural and more versatile. They make the inside of a house feel more solid too.

[@calebjames5600]

The hype leading up to this update was otherworldly, you had to be there. We looked back on it with mixed opinions but the lead-up was crazy.

[@loganator2688]

I’m really loving your content I love the way you think and how you play the game. These videos are extremely relaxing.

[@dialko2596]

Awesome, make sure you SMASH THAT LIKE BUTTON!! (Really though, glad you enjoy 👍)

[@Unfiltered_Raven]

to me everything after 1.7 was a turning point. it became more about polishing rather than going for is this good for the game. what kept happening and is still happening is this feature creep that adds more and more lag, forgotten features or useless mobs you will forget about a month after the update comes out. it has this weird clash of styles with the old and new. adventure is not the problem, its the corperation that needs new updates every year because of some kind of idea that it will kill the game.

[@jared_bowden]

I wonder where the "needs new updates every year or it will kill the game" mindset comes from. Most other games aren't like that, and it feels like constantly having to add 'features' no one wants isn't the best use of a company's money. I didn't know, it would be interesting to have an inside look at Mojang's financials & corporate politics.

[@robbyjohnson9684]

Would be really fun to load a world in beta, with beta terrain, and then to update it to adventure and get all the new block and updates. You could get a texture pack that keeps the old vibrant colours and it would be the best of both worlds.

[@techmark3665]

You would only keep the old world gen for the chunks you loaded before updating it. All new chunks generated would be adventure world gen.

[@Pan_DaPan]

Your videos are awesome dude, I love watching them and having some nostalgia, even though the first time I played Minecraft was in 1.2 or 1.3 Wasn't expecting a 1.0.0 playthrough, it's really cool to see. I still prefer the Beta, I like its colorful style too

[@tawmias]

One particular thing emblematic about this specific update and old Minecraft as a whole that I kind of miss is how the new features would pretty clearly reflect whatever Notch and the rest of the team were interested in at the time. The Adventure update was developed and released around the latter half of 2011 and the mania for Skyrim among the "core" crowd of gamers and developers was fucking huge at the time. You can tell the dude was on a huge ARPG kick and was extremely hyped for Skyrim's release while developing the update. The great majority of features added in the Adventure Update really just reflected whatever features he liked from The Elder Scrolls and other ARPGs he was into in 2011 - Old medieval style villages with stone churches, libraries and forges, the ability to enchant your weapons, alchemy-inspired potion brewing, big and dangerous structures like mineshafts, fortresses and strongholds, and, perhaps most obvious of them all, the big dragon endboss you had to kill to roll credits. I kind of understand people not really vibing with how RPG-centric this update is. I don't really think an "ending" to this game was necessary either. But man, I don't know, I think this characteristic of old Minecraft development was really charming and made the game feel so uniquely "Indie" in a way that it hasn't felt in a very long time now. Updates reflected whatever the developers were interested in at the time, because it was just a small team of people adding things that they liked from whatever they were playing. It was neat!

[@xFluing]

The thing with the glass panes and why they seem to thin is because they are just that - a texture with no thickness. They eventually got an actual real thickness / block model with the update that added stained glass, release 1.7.

[@bramblesthatcat3243]

I mean this in the best way possible, but this video made me cry. This is the version I first played on back when I was a little kid and idk if its your casual/calm cadence, nostalgia, the fact I'm watching this at 2am, or a combination of the three, but I feel like I got sucker punched back into 2011 and I'm watching Paulsoaresjr's survive and thrive series or some adventure map. This video gave me so much nostalgic comfort, thank you for reminding me of the good times. I'm definitely gonna be an active subscriber. Edit: also when you mentioned how people had issues with the size of Abandoned Mineshafts (around the 1:10:20 mark) their criticism had some merit (at least for the time) as there was a bug until 1.0 (i think it was patched out by then) where if you entered an abandoned mineshaft, any new chunks you entered while still in the mineshaft would generate more mineshaft chunks instead of ending the mineshaft and generating more cave. this meant that if you were unlucky enough, you would be stuck in a labyrinthine eldritch mineshaft that would never end and endlessly generate, trapping you inside unless you found where your first entered it. So yea I can understand why ppl had issue with it lol

[@gv6206]

I can't find any bug report related to this but minecraft wiki has a good gif comparing the early 1.8 mineshaft size to later versions, where you can see they were absolutely huge in comparison to today. de.minecraft.wiki/w/Datei:Mine_Ausdehnung_b1.8.gif

[@Van4eus]

Eldrich cursed mineshaft is so cool!

[@pollo3122]

1:11:09 bro got poisoned so hard he got sick IRL, masterful roleplaying skills.

[@dialko2596]

They need to nerf it

[@itsmeguys6321]

i remember playing in alpha when starting the game as a kid. As a kid I didn't keep uip with things like update notes, I would just log in and it would be updated. I remember loading my world and spawning in a swamp, seeing the nasty colors, then seeing a hunger bar. I fell to my death, cried that the game was bad now and quit. I was a kid so I came back the next day and enjoyed the game just about the same lol. Good times. Minecraft was the first ever pc game I played and I still play it to this day which is absolutely insane to me.

[@apertioopening3425]

I personally don't think the adventure update ruined Minecraft, but it did knock down the first domino that would eventually lead to Minecraft's ruination

[@bookerlebello5957]

I think this early era of full release MC had so much untapped charm. I fully agree with your villager critique, and the muddying of the games atmosphere. I have always seem Minecraft, when I play it, as a more medieval fantasy RPG esque world, a world I can shape and explore, to make my own stories... and just adding NPCs or lore to a game like that(not that a sandbox can't have lore), just ruined a lot of that creativity for a younger me. This world was what I made of it, what me and my friends create shape this abandoned landscape. My biggest gripe with modern, less so with this version, is that the game is, to me, no longer Minecraft but a minigame hub like early roblox was. The same trite mundane tedium over and over again. This is why I love builders, they are the lifeblood of this game, they make it prettier than it already is. Bit of a rant. Awesome video!

[@sesameoil0009]

a year ago i made a world in 1.0 and beat the enderdragon on my own for the first time in that version. admittedly i love it despite how mundane it can be sometimes

[@dragonogon]

your comment at 44:27 about abandoned villages is very interesting cuz they actually did add abandoned villages later on. not too sure when though. but they're all run down and stuff with cobwebs and whatnot. they're pretty rare but they're def an interesting addition methinks

[@ReachTea]

Currently went from Beta 1.7.3 to release 1.1, going to be going through the updates and doing everything from each update, it's really fun to experience the updates as they came originally I also really dislike villages, takes away the whole "your own world" now it's just a world with ugly ass people in it constantly taking cool locations

[@deadclicks]

Awesome video. You've got great commentary skills. Very laid back type of deal

[@dialko2596]

Thanks so much 👍

[@kice1102]

sprinting made survival much easier compared to beta. I'm pretty sure thats why people say beta is more survival focused. Speaking in a more abstract sense though, adding a final boss and leveling is also a sign of a shift in focus for the game. Giving the player goals like that distracts us from focusing on how to survive and develop a base and instead on how to grind enough to beat the objective. Giving the player goals dramatically shifts how they play the game.

[@zladvevo9724]

One of my favorite videos I’ve watched recently. Really like your calm style. Instant subscriber!

[@flamma1114]

I started playing on Xbox with the castle tutorial world idk which version that was but I never really played in these very old versions. Out of the new versions I feel like 1.18 is the best one. The caves and cliffs world generation. It felt really fresh but at the same time I miss the old generation. It was also pretty soon after the nether update which is imo the best update. (Right above aquatic). Your gripes about the game after playing beta is interesting. It adds to the aspect. I’m also happy it’s not how new gen Minecraft vids are with are all fast past. With cuts every 2 seconds and also scripted as well.

[@leviklopfenstein8158]

I think the enchanting system is cool, I wish Mojang would make it more relevant again. Now with trading and anvils, you hardly need an enchanting table at all.

[@dialko2596]

So true! I love making enchanting rooms; buying/farming books isn’t as fun

[@Kira-ji2ft]

It used to be this mysterious thing you would tap into for small improvements to your gear. Now you create industrial slave farms to increase the effectiveness of your gear by an insane amount.

[@kracko1367]

caves in post-adventure 2011-2012 are actually insane sometimes. i dont think the generation is intentional but its fucking awesome

[@enemote]

Really love these longer rambly videos along with the gameplay, you could do this more often.

[@cinfdef]

I remember almost always when i played old versions like this one, 99% of the time i'd spawn in a swamp and it always just felt drab :/

[@GioGioPietromica425]

This was my first version of Minecraft as well, it’s really nice to get someone else’s perspective on such a core part of my childhood experience

[@adamcerny2227]

With hunger, i kinda like it, because it gave you a lot of food options which help if youre making a base, its food yes but its sort of a decoration too.

[@itzpoppyseed]

ive been gradually watching this video over the last few days and ive fallen asleep 3 times while watching bc i was always watch it in bed haha, minecraft has got to be the most relaxing game, even in the other dimensions

[@dialko2596]

Yeah, I’ve been told I put some people to sleep… but in a positive way apparently haha

[@itzpoppyseed]

@@dialko2596 yea, your first beta video definitely did that as well

[@Geffro]

Me and my friends were super excited when this update came out. I felt a super big sense of mystery with mineshafts and other structures, like you said. I was super excited to have melons for some reason too haha. I was surprised when I more recently learned that people didn't like it. Although I have to admit that the older versions have a lot of charm to them, and it's fun to revisit because it's such a different game.

[@astec9051]

Bro, your voice is so soothing. It is so fun to just stick your videos on in a background when I play mc or study. Please continue doing this type of content! Maybe another retrospective would be cool? Thanks again man

[@Noblereach36]

I started minecraft right before the adventure update. My first world was a small dirt hut on a small dirt island. Imagine my surprise when the game updated. Had no clue what was going on. I enjoy both versions in different ways. Pre adventure is fantastic because of the simplicity and focus on building and mining. Post adventure is the one I played the most and generally enjoy. I do wish there was a mod that combined the 2. Not in a better than adventure way, a proper merge of the two. Would love to fight the enderdragon in the beta. I also like how the beta has non stackable foods. Although cooking the food is a bit annoying I believe a whole stack of food is kinda overpowered.

[@dialko2596]

Same! A mod that simply combines the best features of the two versions would be awesome

[@PEPSIMaxMusic]

49:58 you're correct. Nether Wart is only found in Fortresses in both Java and Bedrock, but it WAS found in "soul sand fields" in the Legacy console editions.

[@maxjendri4677]

I started a new minecraft 1.3 survival world while watching this. I started around 1.3 back when i was younger

[@dialko2596]

Nice! 1.3 ain’t bad; written books are great

[@L0rdMace]

I think that the adventure system lends to help with enchanting, but I think with beta the absence and difference in game mechanics makes for enchanting to be unnecessary

[@cretium805]

As someone who also grew up with 1.0, official release 1.7 felt a lot like the Adventure Update to golden age Minecrafters. I already didn't like swamps and jungles were too common for the aesthetic I wanted, but now they also added huge savannah biomes, dark oak trees that despite the cool planks had really predicable leaves that just look like a flattened sphere, more flattened terrain, less caves, and no more oceans to explore. The only upsides were the new commands for creative, the mega taiga, and the stained glass that can be used to make very cool windows, but for some reason they gave them a very bland shade. At the same time, I do recognize that beta had these mountains full of life that were lost in the Adventure Update. I found that planting spruce saplings on extreme hills biomes bordering a taiga gave a nice combination of both beta and 1.7+ in silver age 1.0-1.6.4.

[@shodan6401]

This is a really good video. It kind of stung a bit hearing you say that you grew up with it, since I was well in my thirties before Minecraft was even a thing. Then it stung a bit more when you said that you grew up with the dragon, since that came even later, but fair enough. I really like this version. I appreciate the added content and the washed out colors don't bother me too much. I also like the really large biomes. When I first started playing seriously, I began with 1.8.9 because I wasn't confident with my graphics card. In 1.8.9 in my first world (which is the one I stayed with), I kept to my spawn point which was on a small Plains, but surrounding me were ridiculously huge Mountains biome, Covered Forest or Dark Forest - there was a name change at some point, plus a massive Jungle biome, and River Mountains biome. And no Ocean for thousands and thousands of blocks. In any direction I really couldn't navigate. I had no sheep nearby, and what I didn't know is that there was a weird bug that didn't play any sheep sounds at a small distance. So, I literally spent an in-game year without a bed. Every time I went looking for sheep I'd end up lost, particularly after running from a creeper, and since it was so difficult to navigate the terrain, it took me forever just to get anywhere. I remember one day I was chopping down a tree, and while my axe was hitting the wood, I thought I heard some distant sheep. But as soon as I stopped chopping, the sound was gone. It was then that I realized what was happening. Fortunately, the Phantom mob wasn't in the game yet. Eventually I carried this world over to 1.16.5. And I only did this because I really wanted some other lighting options other than torches and glowstone. But beyond that, you can literally see how much easier the game became. Within two minutes of spawn, there's a village or two, you have a bed within seconds. Usually iron ingots and food. Everything is on a silver platter before you even start. I think it ruins the fun of the game. I enjoyed watching you play this version. Thinking I'll have to try it myself.

[@cute_robobop]

i feel like the villager designs somewhat fit minecraft at the time. just these things that exist and made you go "what the fuck is that" when you first found them. really fits the other mobs introduced around that time like endermen or pigmen that arent based on any pre-existing fantasy creatures or just regular farm animals. that being said them doing nothing and lacking any sound design was a really weird choice and made the villages feel really unfinished

[@barelyaiden]

i'm very accustomed to modern minecraft since i took the route and decided to stay up to date with the latest, but i started playing around when 1.7 just came out, first versions being 1.2.5 and 1.5.2 and every time i try to revisit them and play them i'm just so used to all the quality of life changes i just end up getting bored or frustrated :( for the longest time i didn't understand why people preferred not having hunger and not being able to sprint, decided to try out Better Than Adventure last month and honestly? i kinda get it now! it was pretty fun playing but most of my enjoyment from the game comes from playing with friends and most of my friends play bedrock on console so that was a lost cause as well, kinda interesting how bedrock cross-play ended up dividing players more than bringing them together in a way haha this was honestly a pretty fun watch and was a gentle reminder what minecraft was to me when i first started playing and it's a feeling that's hard to replicate for me

[@damienpatzlaff8432]

Really enjoyed this video, was playing Beta 1.7.3 & was looking for something to listen to/watch while I play. I started playing MC right before the Adventure update, so my first moments in Minecraft were still beta, but the Adventure update still holds a lot of nostalgia for me. Good takes & I agree with a lot of what you had to say.

[@retrosonichero7995]

9:11 I know I'm super late on this, but I thought I'd provide some insight. Given the fact that Beta Minecraft up until the Adventure update didn't have sprinting, the game, in general, felt more dangerous to most people. If you were in an encounter with an enemy, it was often very difficult to escape, especially if there were a lot of them and/or you were in an enclosed space such as a cave. The combat and movement was more "methodical", if that makes sense. You had to plan your moves a bit more and scope out the area. Nowadays you can just go "oh shit" and sprint away if you overestimate your capabilities. You can literally survive the entire first night without a shelter or bed just by sprinting around enemies and periodically eating. This was absolutely unheard of pre Beta 1.8.

[@Firegroupfugl]

I once sailed like an hour or so in one direction without finding any land. WOW

[@scooter__131]

the house is cute and has a nice view of the sunset !

[@kukifitte7357]

It's so fitting your profile picture is judeau. You're both equally chill

[@dialko2596]

Chad Judeau fan

[@-alexanderhosch-4828]

I remember watching Paulsoares Jr back in the day playing the Adventure update. I got my account around that time too. I remember building a outside libary house thing in a Taiga biome and then a minecart track that ran through it. I don't know why I built the libary thing outside, especially in a cold wet enviroment.

[@catbug2080]

I recently actually did the same exact thing playing 1.0 again. I was inspired by your videos and I thought it’d be cool to check out the first version I played. Nothing like the older versions ngl.

[@presidentirinavladimirovna7054]

I love the cozy, relaxed, and unscripted nature of your videos man. Super nice to listen to

[@deltainfinium869]

The beta being more survival focused thing is probably more in comparison to the modern versions of minecraft rather than 1.0

[@CassidyBassidy]

It feels like after adventure, you were in more control of the fantasy of the world, while in before you just had to live with in the fantasy. There was monsters and stuff, and they were generally stronger or just as strong as you, but then you could just outrun them all. All the magic stuff they added is cool, and i can enjoy, but it gives you way more power over the fantasy around you that the game loses much of its challenge and atmosphere

[@dialko2596]

Interesting point. People have problems with the old enchanting, which I get. But the randomness of the enchantments made it feel like something you didn’t understand, or couldn’t control, like you said.

[@bgjck]

I actually like the flat plains in Minecraft Release 1.0.0 because I remember as a kid always wanting a big flat are in my survival worlds to be able to easily build a big base camp/town area and it’s more annoying when there is less flat land 😅

[@dialko2596]

Yes! I like having them sometimes but I don’t like everywhere to be flat. I wish there was terrain generation with the best of both worlds

[@theoo.2019]

Watching all of your videos on Beta actually made glass panes and the new chests look off to me now so thanks for that xD

[@JaCrispy3060]

Enjoyed this chill vid man. Enjoyed every little thing you brought up. Makes me really wish I could go back with my friends and play and talk about all these features.

[@Poabis]

I grew up playing a lot of the beta versions. When release came out I wasn’t sure how I felt about it at the time. Minecraft was always just Minecraft for me. Coming back to Minecraft and even going back to the Beta versions, the biggest difference for me was that release gave people a goal to reach the last boss. For most games that makes sense, but for Minecraft it felt like it was a game intended for players to find their own endgame, to make their own goals. Which further enhanced the sandbox for me. I love both versions a lot, but both are fairly different games. Your channel is the reason I’ve been getting back into the beta versions and I’m having a blast! Thanks so much for your content man! Keep it up!

[@Sleepyhead1211]

To answer your question about why cauldrons are in the game, I believe they wanted it to be possible to have a nether brewing setup, as the water won't boil away if it's in a cauldron.

[@dialko2596]

You might be a genius (or I am dumb)

[@rattusskelly6393]

Also on bedrock you use them to dye leather armor

[@hera7884]

The potions are both alchemy and witchcraft. I wanted mountain ranges that extended like 4 maps side by side. Have plains on one side, desert or Mesa on the other.

[@happygofishing]

I started playing 360 and then PC 1.6, but 1.7.3 still feels like home. In retrospect, I'm happy with most of the features they added in 1.0, except the graphical changes, world-gen, movement and hunger. There are mods available that add 1.7.3 world gen to modern minecraft, but it just feels, wrong.

[@pepaigea]

Me standing at the edge of an ocean: "If we kill all our enemies over there, will we finally be free?"

[@sarahrichards1281]

I actually like the drive the hunger bar gives towards building a sustainable food source, it gives you the push in a direction of building farms or domesticating animals. Although i agree that a village design that would be more abandoned and like discovering some lost town/civilization would have been more interesting and lend itself to the game's other structures. Like if you could play Minecraft today without any prior knowledge of the game and you wonder through all the beautiful landscapes feeling alone. Then bit by bit discover the evil monster that rise with the sunset, abandoned mineshafts, dilapidated ghost town villages, Temples with protected treasures, hellish fortresses and finally an entire stronghold long empty built around an indestructible portal. It would all be so intriguing like solving a puzzle once piece at a time of an ancient and lost world.

[@theoo.2019]

I started playing Minecraft on Xbox 360 and Pocket Edition (don't remember which I played first) and I grew up with the Adventure Update but also remember when there was no hunger bar and the biomes were much smaller on PE. Those were simpler times that I wish I could go back to.

[@adamcerny2227]

Want to mention another thing, i dont know if its implimented in this version, but in later versions you can collect stuff like lava/water in the cauldron

[@destiny4963]

I think that there should have been archipelago systems in the massive oceans to give them more life Perhaps there could also be more island specific biomes like the mooshroom biome.

[@JacobWHill]

I remember being so absolutely hyped about the adventure update, talking about it and looking at screenshots of it every day with my friend. I'm pretty sure an early version of the update leaked onto the internet prior to its intended release, and that was probably the most exciting day of my Minecraft career. I certainly wasn't disappointed back then! Now, though, I realize that the 1.8 update made the game worse in a lot of ways and is probably the least fun version you can play, without the interesting world generation and simplicity of Beta and without all the new features that would be added in the coming years that'd make modern minecraft more fun.

[@zebulan1485]

The fog change came in 1.18.1. If I recall correctly, it was done to try and optimize the amount of actually-visible terrain at lower render distances (because in the old fog, far away chunks ate up processing/rendering effort despite barely being visible)... but as you noted, it came at the expense of making the fog itself less appealing.

[@dialko2596]

Good to know. I knew it had to be recent-ish because I really noticed the new fog when I went back to new versions

[@strawb3rrysparkl3z5]

I love to watch these while I draw, so relaxing and fun. I already watched all of your Minecraft videos so I'm rewatching and it's still fun.

[@Wisteria64]

the villagers crying as Dialko calls them wierd and ugly to their face

[@braunreal]

with other youtubers I can't say I've ever been captivated by the so-called "professional" commentary. This laid-back presentation, however, kept me fixated the whole time. Keep up the great work!

[@ScarryHarry93]

I think this update was when I really got into MC and loved it. I like the survival aspect and having more to think about than JUST gathering block (which was about all you did in early beta - mine stone and build castles lol, but with far less blocks than now). It's nothing like the adventures you can do now, with ruins and chest loot, but it at least gave you a reason to leave spawn. Whether that be to find food, or new biomes, ect.

[@lowtier6565]

You can gather the egg with a torch. by placing it two blocks below where it rests and breaking the block it's resting on, like gravel or sand.

[@stanislavmachulskii7061]

Great vid Dialko! I'm really glad you're positive towards this version, I also started playing after Adventure update so I really enjoy new versions as much as the beta ones. Would be cool to see you playing modern minecraft too, your opinion on 1.21, like maybe one short playthrough?

[@dialko2596]

Yeah I’m actually already kinda thinking about it

[@camma...]

this is the version that 'ruined' minecraft for me, i still played after and had lots of fun with friends, but beta 1.7.3 is the platonic ideal of minecraft for me, it just feels like the game has strayed so far from what made me love it back then. it's certainly still a great game, one of a kind, but its just not the same anymore, and to me that's tragic

[@kice1102]

I agree with most of what you say but I think the potions/enchantment table don't fit as well is because they're added mainly just to serve the player. It feels like a cliche way of giving players more fighting power to take on the final boss. Those things could have been implemented in a much more natural way. Probably by excluding leveling and also making potion/enchant effects more varied and interesting rather than strictly beneficial.

[@partyinpiplup7883]

I feel like beta 1.7 is a full game, which is ironic cause it's beta, the full game is 1.0. But the difference is that you really feel the lack of features in 1.0. There's the lack of needed revampments of features, the boring world generation, and other stuff. Maybe there's a "complete" feeling version before modern and past 1.0 but it is a more gradual change. As of now I feel like the only two version I really care about is beta 1.7 and modern 1.19. Caves and cliffs was an awesome update that revamped the generation and the deep dark is awesome. But beta is so nice with the generation and is kinda it's own feeling from modern minecraft. The game is kinda done, it already has a great balance. Post beta only gets better with updates, like you get more biomes so world generation isn't as boring anymore.

[@LoganBrickfilms]

Jeb was originally going to have potions be made in cauldrons but the system was too complicated both to code and for players to understand

[@valcarter]

This sits right between the golden age Minecraft and the modern Minecraft. Personally, i like BTB content because they remind me of my childhood, they give me nostalgia, but i don't really like playing beta anymore. I always thought that Minecraft was rather a building game than a survival game, i really enjoy building automatic farms in the modern version and having all the new blocks. Aaaand even tho having all those block palletts i always build a beta-styled town in all my modern worlds. I like to mix everything together as much as i can.