This could be the best esports gaming mouse

[@fireguy615]

This EC2 user has both on order and I can’t wait to try them out. Very happy to see the ergo crowd getting love this year from good manufacturers with also the XLite V3 around the corner.

[@BOMBICHKAA]

can't wait for Xlite V3!

[@htkenan]

I'm in the similar boat, got EC2-CW on the way and debating on the OUTSET. Any thoughts so far?

[@catart2633]

@@htkenan personally went from DA v3 pro > ec2-cw > outset ax, shape wise the outset is easily the best among the 3 for my hands.

[@htkenan]

I ended up ordering both EC2-CW and OUTSET and settled on the OUTSET by far. Returned the EC2. Thanks!@@catart2633

[@TheJtorres182]

@catart2633 can you share your size dimensions please? My hands are 20x10 and i think the bigger a mouse is, the better.

[@BlindBison]

I love Vaxee’s mice from a build quality standpoint and their shapes are good too, but for me the Outset with its raised back hump feels too tall in my hand to be comfortable for relaxed fingertip grip and it just kinda hurts my hand after awhile. What I’d really love is an official EC1.5 / EC2L since the EC2 shape is awesome imo but a bit too small while the EC1 is just enormous. Vaxee is basically the one company I’d trust to make their own EC clone and probably have it be as good if not better in some ways than the actual EC mice, but so far they’ve refrained from cloning it.

[@Xerpocalypse_]

Having just recently purchased and been able to use the Thorn, I agree with you 100% on the shape. The Thorn just feels so natural to hold. However, the wired Outset AX is still one of my favorite mice and will stay in my collection for those times when I want to tilt-grip.

[@dontcarecaredont]

Disagree on the shape, as someone who does naturally tilt grip the outset ax shape is way better

[@middle_pickup]

The deathadder v3 completely changed my mind on mice. Ergo all the way babyyyy. Interested in trying this one soon. Keep up the fun reviews, and good luck in the algooooooooooooo.

[@albanzon]

Abductor - moves away Pollicis - thumb Brevis - short It's a short muscle that moves your thumb anteriorly in opposition to the palm Thank you, I'll see myself out

[@DiamondLobbyReviews]

thanks doctor

[@Ico938]

You absolutely killed it with the comparison at 3:35 This was my exact experience and the reason Thorn was a much better fit.

[@HanzeHenrik]

These reviews are so much better and more innovative than most of the other channels.

[@Kreege]

Just bought a thorn about a month ago to replace my dav3, but was very close to going with the outset. Its great to see the ergo crowd finally getting some options that arent IE 3.0/EC clones.

[@darth_cheezus]

What made you pick thorn. I’m torn between Outset and Thorn to replace my Dav3. Just way too big and I need a bit more support on the right of the back of the mouse in my palm. I’m also torn on getting NP-01s. I want an in between of Viper V2 Pro and GPX. Viper size alright but bit to short and GPX2 a bit to high 😤😒🤣

[@Kreege]

​@@darth_cheezus Ultimately the significant weight difference is what swung me towards the thorn. I also found the dav3 pro to be a bit too big, which was my main motivation for seeking a new mouse. The hump on the thorn is more centered(the slope to the right isnt as significant), and it is further back on the mouse so if youre looking for more support towards your palm the thorn will definitely deliver it. never used any ambis

[@HeyMaruniko]

Not really bleeding edge technology, but your review seems show this mouse is more refined, and very consistent to use. Something for those top tier players demand. They not really into specs, but actual performance. Its more like Zowie's approach (ironically) but Vaxee has more on development, lesser on the gimmick. I think Vaxee mice is for Zowie's fan but refuse to pay $150 for 2019 spec mouse on 2023.

[@yasinarslan208]

Hey thanks for the review. I'm using razer deathadder V3 Pro and it is bulk and big to me. My hand size 18.5x10.5cm and using pincer claw aka relaxed claw I guess. Which one win for me? Thanks in advance.

[@io-rj6sk]

hay i know ur a g403/g703 fan. so i just wanna ask since u know how light and snappy the clicks are on the g403 prodigy (hero v1 braided) not the newer logitech clicks post 2022. but how does the clicks on the vaxee compare to the OG logitech g403 clicks? coz i really love it light and snappy but logitech have moved away from that. also how does the vaxee ergo shape compare to g403?

[@ImPipkinrick]

With the Vaxee, would there be a worry about double clicking years down the line?

[@poleon2003]

The big reason why Zowie and VAXEE have among the best build quality among gaming mice is simply due to the fact that both zowie and vaxee are Taiwanese like the thing about Taiwan is that they're really among high quality across the board when it comes to electronics and believe it or not almost everything comes from there while other brands like Logitech and Razer are more US/EU based and don't seem to care about quality in general so yeah it's no surprise that Zowie and VAXEE are arguably the top standard of gaming mice in terms of build quality rn

[@nookyyy]

Hey, are u sure your mouse has black shell blue dots in it, cuz ive opened mine and i have black shell pink dots in them ? ( would be interesting to know if they really use different switches for the same mouse ) cheers

[@ohimdabiggestbird]

what is your top mouse recommendation?

[@p0Rp]

Have you received a review unit of the Sprime PM1? They specifically tried to mimic the g703 shape and it's half the weight, I'd love to see a video on that from you

[@CRAiCED.]

Ive been maining the dav3 with 4k dongle and love it but its not the endgame for me. Something is slightly off in it for me so have been looking for a change. I have been going back and forth between the Thorn and AX but then Maxgaming got the fnatic x thorn in with a 4k dongle for €110 while the AX with no dongle was €140. Had to get the thorn

[@HeyImBrim]

IDK why but the thorn creates pain on top of my hand after prolonged use. Outset doesn't.

[@betwetter00]

good video, this mouse has an interesting shape, kinda wanna try if u have the time u should review the darmoshark m3s varun

[@k1shaw123]

when will the attackshark x3 review will be done?

[@Ausf.D.A.K.]

The wired Outset AX is the best mouse I've ever used.

[@zlibz4582]

good review man , nice style !

[@noir2286]

Great review and keep up the great work. My choice of gear is weird and I had been using the Keychron M3 for the pass few months. Its not the best or famous mouse but it covers all my needs. The Lamzu is eye-catching but cost 200 more than my Keychron where I'm from😂

[@dragonfruitsoup1008]

yo so my budget is 200 dollars and I'm looking for optical switches with at least a 2k polling rate my preferred shape is a ergonomic, what mouse do you recommend for me?

[@ohimdabiggestbird]

razer deathadder v3 pro or logitech g pro wireless 2?

[@tinpot_numbee3910]

What switches does the zygen np-01s and xe uses? Please let me know Diamond 😢

[@DiamondLobbyReviews]

i'm pretty sure all their mice are using the same ones

[@tinpot_numbee3910]

@@DiamondLobbyReviews are the clicks on the sora 4k more snappier and tactile than their mechanical versions? Bc im thinking of getting a gpx for their switches and the shape

[@DiamondLobbyReviews]

i think they are softer, the optical omrons feel like old omrons

[@tinpot_numbee3910]

@@DiamondLobbyReviews oh so i guess the lightforce switches feel snappier and tactile anyways thanks for your feedback

[@jjc3272]

Another massive dub. Best channel for sure. Cheers.

[@andyderp6473]

But the real question is will there be a xm2w? can pigs learn to fly? or can Arsenal actually stay in the top 4 two years in a row? can't say which one is more likely.

[@prajwalmodak8865]

I was sold the moment you said it had no software

[@Legostiks]

Hello , can you review the deathadder v2 x hyperspeed?

[@TheMukosei]

Ordered a Lamzu thorn today as I was disappointed with the DAV3 (especially the scroll wheel)

[@r0id-CS2]

I love lamzu shapes and weights. But they use a really bad switches and feel cheap quality after a while used

[@DiamondLobbyReviews]

i think they're going to move away from them based on the maya having mechanical switches now

[@r0id-CS2]

@@DiamondLobbyReviewsohh i see , i have the 4k version and weird noise on right click, anyone have the same issue like me?

[@HunnyFPV]

@@DiamondLobbyReviews that is such a good backwards trend

[@AverageJoao]

DO I NEED TO BUY THE VAXEE VXD01 Receiver ?

[@DiamondLobbyReviews]

NO. they sell separate receivers if you have a 2 PC setup and want to use the same mouse for both and don't want to swap dongles.

[@AverageJoao]

I love you, thanks❤

[@glashausAimz2]

the x2h mini is my mouse of the year. i really can't find much to complain about and thus i found out it's me. i am actually the one that sucks at aim😂

[@r2bot]

bro I've owned so many mice and the x2h mini performs the best for me but now i just recently got the outset and its just as good such a dilemma to have. :/

[@glashausAimz2]

@@r2bot i am saving for the finalmouse lol, but quite frankly i don't think i need anything better than the x2h... at least for now. i put some tiger ice v2 skates on it and use it with an equate plus v2, which i find based alone for glide and the 50x50 size.

[@r2bot]

Only thing I dislike about the X2h are the clicks but I agree with the mouse is sweet

[@Sakeus]

Mine should arrive today. I ordered X2H mini - its got the hump just like zygen NP-01 which I like and is much lighter. I thought Outset AX would be perfect because I have tilted grip, but nah, did not click with me.

[@glashausAimz2]

@@r2bot i just compared them to my v2 pro. the v2pro clicks are a bit harder to activate and feel snappier, but they aren't that different. it's the same optical switch i believe? anyway, after the dilemma with the mechanical switches in the xlite, i am happy i can set them to 0 debounce without any issues. what i noticed is that i can slam click them, but that never happened ingame so far. not even in hard scenarios in kovaaks or aimlabs.

[@Ejziponken1]

Ugh, why is it 73g? Even DAv3 is only 61g...

[@amirulizzat2114]

i thought that was tinker's "greetings" for a second lmao

[@DiamondLobbyReviews]

that would trigger my ptsd

[@adb2130]

even better coating than Endgame gears xm1r? shocking

[@underh1gh]

got orange one and ditched ax, ec2cw, thorn, dav3, prime and every ergo fckers AX wireless is goat

[@kesamek8537]

Most likely the best mouse reviews on KZbin, certainly equal with Boardzy/Optimum/etc.

[@Zensaitv]

Really would like a ldat or the xlat final mouse latency testing for these mouses.

[@daniellozobia5386]

You can use the NP01s as a proxy (Vaxee's penultimate release), the wireless tech will essentially be unchanged. Click latency at 2ms debounce is approx. 3ms measured with an LDAT. Vaxee has announced they are also working on lowering this in the future with a firmware update.

[@tinpot_numbee3910]

6:04 😂

[@CalvinoSinclair]

bioshock chain tattoo brother

[@jiehu1337]

Side buttons is ignored

[@MatthewZhou-i8s]

i live in china and actually the inphic mice are good

[@noodlotgg350]

"the best silver player"!? RUDE!... But accurate 😅

[@Gabriel-it5jy]

what a tough choice...

[@D4CXVII]

jeeeee uhhhh 300👍

[@pav1u]

mm720 is the shape to aim for.

[@bob-ge5js]

g703 clears

[@PapaJuansPizza]

Jokes on you I’m 0/100 RR Gold 1 player! 😤

[@Evan-xs8ts]

73g is too much when the thorn is 20$ less and cheaper

[@realevermore]

No

[@salemkhamis6788]

Idk man looks super cheap material and the quality doesnt look great

[@Shrykull10]

thankfully we dont get computer mice just to look at them then

[@AlexSosa_]

it will outlast any other chinese hype lightweight mouse

[@nonri500]

Well, it's apperent you've never seen or touched a vaxee mouse irl.

[@salemkhamis6788]

@@nonri500 i havent the mice i got are razer basilisk v3 pro and the g903 ,i dont like these light mice that are so small i have big hands and this small ass mouse aint gonna do it for me, ive tried the finalmouse starlight phantom medium and sold it cuz i didnt like it

[@yhiz4757]

​@@salemkhamis6788when will gullable consumers (you) learn that higher weight doesn't = higher quality