LilyPichu learned Guilty Gear Strive *TOO* Fast

[@LoneRatatouille]

Says to not ask about the BBL then proceed the explain The BBL unpromted

[@P0rk_Sinigang]

Diaphone folded under literally zero pressure lol

[@juandor9789]

😭

[@Bonjamin9726]

The funniest part was Lily was fine with not knowing, but he still explained it

[@bakataco1818]

He really wanted her to ask about BBL Dizzy.

[@kouyuunt-t5453]

BBL Dizzy what a timeline we live in

[@caiovinicius5204]

Xrd dizzy was BBL dizzy indeed

[@NaoyaYami]

"We use numpad notation" "Why? You play on numpad"?

[@ignis488]

actually yes, before hitbox was a thing, I plays on numpad as P2

[@NaoyaYami]

@@ignis488 I will probably never forget playing Guilty Gear XX #Reload (my first fighting game I was conscious of as such) as P2 on arrow keys + numpad. Or Little Fighter 2.

[@nahuel3433]

True, we should just use one notation. Numpad is best. Lets use that. Debate over. Thanks for listening.

[@Idealist_Metaphor]

Agreed, it’s literally the entire reason notation exists lmao

[@Mr.Faust3]

@@nahuel3433 I love democracy ❤️

[@phillyjones3028]

Oh I hate her for asking "why"

[@Idealist_Metaphor]

@ but like….. why

[@bassbusterx]

Nah, tekken notation works great for 3rd fighters

[@strymoon]

diaphone explaining his name on guilty gear like the 12year old me explaining to my mom why I set a half naked anime girl as my desktop wallpaper

[@meat.]

he is such a soy

[@lagspike7763]

OK but numpad notation makes sense for anime fighters because it makes cross-language discussion much easier

[@EpsilonKnight2]

It works for pretty much any fighter including Tekken where asia uses numpad+button names. So for example a giant swing from King would be 641236LP instead of the other notation. I personally really think SF should use numpad so a hadouken is just 236HP or whatever.

[@amiablereaper]

​@@EpsilonKnight2numpad notation my beloved. I love turning combos into math.

[@EpsilonKnight2]

@@amiablereaper Once you understand it then it's honestly still more universally legible than somebody saying "forward down down forward punch" for dragon punch/shoryuken. You can make it another layer dumber by saying "forward down down forward forward" when in reality the last forward in the notation is referring to the old term for medium kick, so you could also say "DP motion forward button" lol.

[@Boyzby]

People keep saying this, but I very much doubt a significant number of people are actually reading things from other languages instead of learning from people in their region. It just reads and sounds way more confusing.

[@amiablereaper]

@Boyzby This might surprise you, but fighting games are actually kinda niche. Not every game is gonna have twenty KZbinrs fighting to tell you the same information. Back when bbtag was a thing the only good combo guides were in japanese with no voiceover or subtitles. If not for notation I would have been totally lost. Similarly, the only person making Battle for the Grid guides, parkerlad88, spoke English, so number notation likely made the videos more comprehensible to the Sentai crowd as well.

[@onomayonnaise]

it was really funny seeing lily hear about numpad notation for the first time

[@Krackatoa]

Putting in that good work.

[@hubertkrakowski722]

The funny Faust guy casually chilling in the comments.

[@CatgirlKazu]

4:15 Lily, the council of fighting games has convened over this and determined that numpad is correct, with an exception made for Tekken. That said, all minority groups are generally tolerated except for the radical fringe who uses traditional Street Fighter names for punch and kick strengths.

[@RocketSlug]

Funny enough, I believe there exists a numpad notation standard for Tekken, it's just very niche and I'm not sure how widely it's used

[@Sheltur_0311]

saying fierce in 2024 is insane tbh

[@dylansetright3359]

​@@RocketSlug it ends out looking like a mess and well no one gets it

[@abonham82]

I’m going to forward, short, roundhouse you for this villainy

[@makkapetanovic6838]

It took me an absurdly long time to understand wtf a "low forward" meant

[@JiroTheFro]

Yo! Coming from the livestream here. I just picked up Guilty Gear not too long ago and coincidentally started maiming Elphelt as well and this felt like a free private lesson lol. Thanks for taking the time to teach Lily and for putting this vod up, I’ve learned a lot from it and can’t wait to learn more!

[@Theywantthedro]

Hearing LiliPichu genuinely react to how cute Elphelt design is great! I remember seeing the Dust takeoff air combo looking awesome, but then learning it’s not optimal to use. T-T

[@Its_Toko]

21:32 The way lily said "And that's when I do the Roman Cancel... No? Okay." was really funny also Hotashi at 56:06 lol

[@kombatjenning]

This is confirmation you're a mad scientist, Diaphone. 😂😂😂

[@Heidern98]

As a dude who has been in the Guilty Gear scene a long time, seeing a popular streamer from a younger generation learn and enjoy this game like this makes me hopeful for the game and communities future. Glad to pass the torch.

[@venexo1434]

It’s funny that you say younger generation when in terms of being a popular streamer she is actually on the older side with her being 30+ years old.

[@no_nameyouknow]

Fighting games may never be the most popular genre again, but they offer something that you can't really find in other games and I think that will keep them around for those of us who are looking for that for as long as people play video games. Good to see some positivity, we should always welcome new players no matter how old or young, you rock!

[@outsideboxer1448]

LILY IS OLD AS HELL. Jk but been watching her for 10+ years i think lmao

[@beatrix4519]

18:00 omg finally someone acknowledges the fact that grabs are integral in strive I keep hearing people say strike throw is weak in strive because throws aren't worth much but like almost every character has a tick throw set up and several characters have spots in their pressure where they can add a throw in to mix you and you even have characters like baiken who gain a lot of value off a throw whether that's through tether or mad oki

[@daikoooo]

Strike throw has a pretty shit risk/reward ratio and most characters usually have better options to mix. If you succeed the damage is pretty low and if you fail you might lose half your hp and your opponent get to run his shit (this is by far the worst part). You'd have to spend meter to make it worth or to make it safe and that kinda sucks in comparison to other options. There is a reason Ky players would rather spend that meter on instant overhead rc's. The only character who truly makes it work is Sol, because of insane pressure due to meterless plus frames that make you explode if you retaliate in any way. Any other character is better off running their character specific offense (high/low, crossups or even chipping to death). That doesn't mean that throw is shit in general though, its still a good tool to throw opponents off and create a higher mental stack. Its just not something that is used a lot for a good reason.

[@Creamy_snack]

@@daikoooooverhead kiss crying in the corner rn

[@Mimic-kun1]

I really like how the button clicks get picked up by her model

[@sodashaq7451]

Gotta say, I was never into guilty gear TOO much because I didn’t quite understand how the game worked, but you broke it down very well and taught me how to properly play elphelt and have me a new drive to get back into this game. Thanks for that, this was my first fighting game I ever tried

[@maxterminatehole2086]

the leg end of bussy mane

[@barrybeakdriver]

Man you would hella cook as a coach for this if sajam ever does a strive slam

[@cellphish3839]

Mister Jam has it out for this game since hackerman, doubt it'll ever happen

[@barrybeakdriver]

​@@cellphish3839 he's said before that whatever people are interested in playing he'd be down to do a slam for so I doubt his own misgivings about the game's online would stop him if enough people wanted to play strive

[@SoFishtry]

Doing god's work here. Love the run up gold burst into "who taught you that" combo

[@jaxler8387]

FULL COACHING VOD LETS GO!!!

[@Nooctae]

I love that she's so hype about the idea of learning numpad after she gets it.

[@MaesterofEvolutions]

I saw this from Lily's perspective. You are goated my man Diaphone. :D

[@TyniWins]

Villainphone creating Demon Lily is the timeline I am here for.

[@tallergeese]

It's awesome that she can pick up any game and immediately have a top player/coach tripping over themselves to show her the ropes. Haha. I hope she keeps trying out other fighting games to get exposure on them and their communities. I would guess the next one she tries would probably be Rivals 2 though, since she's friends with Ludwig.

[@lickumdry6016]

23:13 this is definitely obvious to non beginner players but the jab jab here is leading into a really helpful part of a gameplan. Instead of jab jab though going for a better reset hit then cancelling/using mix options between crossup, low, overhead and throw after resetting obviously leads to restarting the combo mitigating the scaling from the pre reset hits. Having her think about essentially dropping a combo at a advantageous time to go into that mix is a great way to exchange a guaranteed combo damage for a mix leading to a fresh combo getting more damage out of it than just finishing the standard combo. I feel like having her consider stuff like this while it might be difficult to get used to intentionally stopping a canned combo would be really helpful and once you get the feel of it and open up options for bigger comeback damage in exchange for risking losing her turn. It's insane how many people especially below celestial will fall for the reset into mix especially with a character like Elphelt and just how much more damage you can get out of just one small alteration.

[@SophistictaedDevil]

Teaching 101: Start with common nomenclature and work you way up based on your student's familiarity to the terminology is

[@randomdude9367]

Can't believe lil bussyman came back for one more job

[@MFOberon]

I'm here for the special guest appearance of Lil bussy

[@razielkurogane]

Lately I've been getting into Strive a lot. It's just a bit complicated for me to learn older characters considering their guides are well.. Old. Some stuff may not work anymore. And I really wanna learn characters like Bridget and Baiken. So hopefully the main man BBL Dizzy gets to revamp his Bridget guide, eventually.

[@malttz9129]

Funny how it was Elphelt, a guy literally put a bot to play and won at CELESTIAL XD But still love her and if you don't know exactly how to use her kit you will get swooped, great thing my favourite streamer learned my favourite game!

[@evilded2]

1:06:06 THAT'S MY GOAT CRAZY1112345 RIGHT THERE!

[@crazy6555]

I LOVE SKYFISH RAHHHHHH

[@illfate757]

I used to wonder why games used num pad notations too when I first learned Soul Calibur 2 back in the day but it instantly made sense. Num Pad notation is actually to keep things from being even more confusing and to keep notations universal for different languages. It also keeps directional inputs separate from button inputs its really that simple. Explaining in notations before in the forums would look like, QCF C or or QCB B or FC C, HCF B, and seeing 236C , 214B 2C and 63214B, It might be confusing at first but once you learn it its just as recognizable as anything else. I learned a lot combos from Japanese videos back when Guilty Gear X wasn't popular here because of the notations and I also imported SC2 so I could get it early because it wasnt sold in the states at the same time.

[@Mario_bland]

I'm just here for the drawn diaphone

[@raymundomuzones4533]

1:26:05 Welcome to the real world. You gon' learn today!

[@kenmastersX]

Hell yeah complaining about notation then learning it asap after, goat

[@Blue_Shardow]

I really like your videos! :3

[@salty4266]

So Lilypichu plays GGST? I was scrolling around on Gamebanana looking for skins for the characters. I found an LilyPichu skin for Elphelt. Not gonna complain because it looked amazing and I downloaded it.

[@ElegantEgotist-114]

27:47 holy shit wait that could be a nasty tick throw set up actually. If you land before the bomb goes off, or get the overhead or land into low, and confirm with bomb Guilty gear (Strive) really is a mashers paradise

[@Okami_HD]

Whilst having a bunch of different systems for notation is annoying, if people grouped up to make one that works for everyone, it’s just one more different way to write the notation, most people will stick with the method they learned first.

[@abonham82]

There’s an XKCD for that

[@Kniightisa]

1:16:07 that scream tho 😂

[@tntxgoodin]

I was under the impression that numpad was the universal thing in pretty much every fighting game but the words after are different.

[@kenmastersX]

So numpad is standard for all games in Japan, but for MK/tekken they use numbers for face attacks. A lot of the old US players use things like qcf, hcf and dp, etc. For their notation because it makes sense when you learn it. But numpad is pretty universal for all languages so it's encouraged. You'll have the pushback from people though

[@aspekt7631]

Best way to learn GG is to play without blocking in the beginning... Just to get the speed and hang of the gameplay style down. This is totally different to SF.

[@stale.bread.enjoyer]

As an SEAsian, numpad is the objectively correct notation as it transcends the language barrier, unlike that insanely wordy illaoi combo the official 2XKO account posted (which didn't use numpad)

[@maxcar7298]

There's something so satisfying in seeing new players learn the game

[@nazuna_central]

YES GIRL! Lily kills it in Tournaments I swear.

[@jokingbr]

Already better than me

[@Mr.Faust3]

Lilypichu is a voice actress?

[@evilded2]

Sure

[@mixmasterX28]

Yup va of sayu in genshin impact

[@Mr.Faust3]

@evilded2 thank you for clarifying

[@oktapus]

Also a streamer and she makes music too

[@levelzapstudios1145]

As someone who started with sfv I almost died irl the first time I got hit by elphelt rekka(now that I'm more used to it I actually quite like the matchup)

[@kenmastersX]

Also, I want to add that chibi Diaphone is a heartwarming sight

[@natman2939]

The troll ironically was teaching a great lesson about DP’s.

[@KLVNID]

Were yall doing local or is it possible to do training online with another person?

[@sova_thatguy6187]

Theyre in a online room just playing versus

[@evilded2]

This is goated.

[@matthewsmith9162]

Those avatars look way better than most vtubers. They are so cute.

[@Its_Toko]

Anyone know the song name at 21:08?

[@tobennaokeke626]

Still in the Dark

[@Its_Toko]

@@tobennaokeke626 thx bro

[@LegendaryMythril]

diaphone hates 5[D] but it's an excellent meterless super punish (i miss when it also punished burst)... not that a new player should worry about that stuff lol

[@dylansetright3359]

Considering how heated she gets over the entire Tekken cast she's really gonna hate Goldlewis and Slayer the more and more she plays Strive

[@DreYeon]

Bro all the ads are stacked at the end huh? Got like 6 50sec ads

[@abnormal_titan26]

Bruh said don’t ask then explained it anyways

[@sergioruiz-x2w]

Bruh half the people playing strive don’t even know how to deal with Elfelt’s freaking reccas bro

[@nugieboy]

Diaphone plays on numpad confirmed 4:06

[@ImCroozy]

Great, now make her react to all the songs

[@desOOOm]

I gotta lock in

[@digijohnny2501]

I remember Lilypichy from 13 years ago when she made "teemo I love you" song. I haven't followed her that much, but If she starts playing Strive, she'll probably be my favorite streamer. I also love it that her avatar "speaks" during dog barks.

[@catinacafe7105]

No no no no no no she becoming jwong nooooooooooo lol "you going to learn today!!"

[@Counselor-yj8hk]

wait... you guys DONT play on dedicated NUMpads?

[@lordkuragari]

nice she plays Elph so maybe ill learn some new stuff

[@natman2939]

I get it was partially because she was playing Elphelt but I can’t believe you’re acting like 5D isn’t good. Maybe it’s because I play lots of characters that use it for mix but doing a 5K or 2K into either 2D or 5D is life. especially when I can make it safe with cubes or Eddie or error shenanigans.

[@shun0825]

hitbox is good but for me I still like fight stick

[@francocruz75]

I watched her play she's pretty ass rn, but she is learning fairly fast

[@dylansetright3359]

Going for string her string into grab is such a Tekken player thing to do and she did it right away once she actually started playing

[@byejimmy8645]

W

[@wampaisen]

tekken notation just seems the easiest to me

[@ultimaq8730]

Yoyoyoyo wtf Lilly is playing Strive??

[@phillyjones3028]

4:07 Lily daring to ask why on the numberpad notation is like asking her ancestors "Why do we eat rice?"

[@KAIsibs]

4:10 The fighting games I’ve played; Here’s light, medium, heavy and your special. The fighting games I’ve seen: Alright you do 1,4,2,3 into half circle HPHK

[@bstnicky]

w

[@LecorbakOfficial]

🐕🐕🐕🐕🐕

[@nekoraver6179]

poor diaphone. got judged so hard for his name lol But real talk. Cut back on the micro managing during the game. it's good to chime in if they are having major trouble or asks, but trying to direct their every move just gets annoying. you can tell she got to the point where she stopped listening to you unless she really didnt understand something.

[@stupid_shrimp]

God, i hate elphetl

[@ScopezMan]

Numpad notation needs to go, Directional notion is the only way

[@Nooctae]

Anime players communicate with Japanese players a lot more, numpad makes more sense for it.

[@waves9515]

Nah numpad notation is super easy to understand for anyone with half a brain

[@roarkviolet1912]

Numpad can be easily used for text and direct conversation. It is also universal so isn't subject to language barriers. Directional *can* do the same as numpad but is very awkward and clunky in text form when explaining long strings and is not universal across the language barrier, additionally directional motion isn't completely 1-1 with all inputs for example qcf is exactly what it says on the tin but DPs/flash kicks aren't described with their motions at all. Use either or it doesn't really matter as long as you aren't using traditional street fighter nomenclature.

[@freyzerb.castro9124]

why?????

[@internalscreaming8835]

Maybe I would have blurred out the gender politics happening in the side of the Testament round... Really hard to focus on the game with that, and rather uncomfortable 😅 All I have to say is Testament canonically is beyond gender and is referred to by they/them! (Edit: and in previous games, used he/him!)

[@ElegantEgotist-114]

Can you explain why it’s hard to focus on the game when you can just not read it. That’s what I did and it was fine for me. Genuine question, no shade I promise

[@ThisisCitrus]

Directional notation > numpad notation

[@mcbill7352]

Nah numpad is way easier across languages. 623 universal across all languages, forward, down, down forward is not. Also you cant really type in arrows either.

[@alexsvedegard]

I would agree if it wasn't for the advanced inputs, like how would u describe a DP input with directional? 😭

[@Paulynomicon]

What a goofball

[@ZachStarAttack]

I want her to fight a really good zotto

[@ZachStarAttack]

I still hate the fact that she just chooses characters off of aesthetics so much. It kind of annoys me. not to diminish anything she's done in the game though

[@KnockFGC]

Imagine choosing a character because you think they look cool and you connect with them emotionally. Lol. Lmao, even.

[@frobish2018]

Aite but like how should she choose who to play then?

[@dimyxer5913]

Isn't that how everyone picks a character? At least that's how I picked😅

[@OatmealM913]

There are plenty of high level players across all fighting games that do this too

[@markjack9772]

So you really do just only pick characters based on how good they are smh🙂‍↔️

[@Kafkas_Coat]

BBL Drizzay 🎶

[@shexxie]

I'm learning a lot from this 🩷