GGST Season 4 Is A Buggy Mess (But It's Still Fun)

[@Aisoreta]

I wanna just remind everyone that the patch notes SPECIFICALLY STATED that this patch was designed to bring down the damage of the game by buffing everyones health, but they also buffed most if not everyones damage and in return leads to the most amount of TOD's and 80%+ combos in the games history, where just having 25% risc now means you're at kill percent

[@nora-yc6fi]

Unless you're Bridget Everyone has more effective health against her specifically

[@DrazGames]

@@nora-yc6fi I know everyone hates dealing with her mix and are probably happy about this, but really? They couldn't have given her a *little* more damage?

[@stray6164]

@@DrazGames lmao no

[@francocruz75]

They butt fkd Millia Rage with her health and ground damage nerf

[@ragnarok67]

Nago's new 6H damage says hello.

[@PonytailFC]

To reiterate a point I've been making a lot lately. I spent 3 years learning how to play Potemkin and mastering kara cancels. If this change had come earlier I would welcome it, the fact that it's come 3 years in feels wrong to me.

[@Hastalapizza66]

I agree, there are so many moments of me playing like normal just to fumble because I tried to do the old inputs for heavenly or airlines

[@zhaoyun255]

3 years? How about the old school Pot from X to XRD and Testament from X to +R like me has to UNLEARN 20+ year of experience in order to learn the new Pot? 3 years wasn't as punishing. The new Pot is more in line with the old Pot with the good old HFB mixup. I drop Testament as soon as I played him for 2 hrs. BORING AF imho.

[@AlexT7916]

@@zhaoyun255 while I understand your argument, you also should expect that not everything stays the same about a character when going from a game to another

[@zhaoyun255]

@@AlexT7916 You don't have to tell me that. AC+ and +R Testament are very different character despite having the same playstyle. Heck, I even play EX Testament and EX Slayer since they are all VERY different from their normal counterpart. Note: So as AC+ Pot, AC+ Pot is a complete different character compare to his former X to Slash even though having the same pressure.

[@fifinokoe1745]

Kara cancels must have been fun to do but honestly Pot is a waaaay better character now than before. Everyone's only complaining about an input motion they took away and forgetting the fact he's way stronger now

[@bombcolor1273]

I'm so salty over Axl rainwater vacuum just dipping like my dad did when I was 4

[@nanite8878]

Me too, man. RIP any stylish pressure.

[@Dude9106]

Why does arcsys hate axl? I have a hard time understanding why they just can't let us have fun

[@StarWagi]

I mean... the rensen change is really nice...

[@mathewhaight]

Those cigarettes aren't going to buy themselves.

[@Halfwit_658]

​@@StarWagichanging [4]6 to 236? That's terrible

[@greggreg3209]

Side note, met zando at this past evo and didn't know who he was ((my 1st time at evo)) I asked him if he wanted to play a casual while grandblue was on. He said he was practicing and his hit box unique. cut to my shock seeing him on the finals stage. was insane

[@HuevoBendito]

You did a Forrest Gump lol

[@djsharky3822]

The changes have been celestial in size

[@wweis6772]

They elevated bullshit to a new floor

[@rickberny1424]

I said this on another video, but I’ll throw my cents here too. The reason this patch is so devisive is that some characters were treated in one way, with one design philosophy, other in a completely different way and philosophy. Some characters like ram, nago, golddick, pot,were reworked or buffed to refresh them a bit and bring out their identity, not really considering balance but just a breath of fresh air into the game, even though some, like nago and ram, just got new toys or changes last patches. Other characters like sol, asuka, axl, sin, milia we’re reworked/nerfed to limit or take away options and bring them more in line with the balance direction. Some characters got the Christmas patch that went “fuck balance, we want you to have fun” other characters got the corporate patch of “fuck fun, you need to step in line and be balanced”. Depending on whitch group your character belongs to, you are either having fun like “yeah games broken but hey new shit to play with” or dooming like “my character got gutted and shit taken away AND now I have to deal with more -insert buffed broken character- on top of shit like ky infinite or ram launching you on getting hit”. Arcsys needs to get their shit together because splitting the community like this based on what characters they arbitrarily want to improve and what characters they barely tolerate can’t bring anything good, expecially as one patch and the next are generally months apart

[@snamsinsheep1540]

I was honestly livid watching the new balance trailer with my brother as a Millia main. I was trying so hard to figure out what they even changed while other characters were getting wild ass buffs out of nowhere 😂😅

[@Maxler5795]

I think the root issue might be that they hired a new team and/or reduced the current one, having them crunch like hell and even take a new direction (ive said for a while it looks like theyre inching the game closer to something like street fighter). The evidence i propose is the bugs, complete overhaul of at least 3 characters, removals of things like sol j.214[K] in less than a year from its introduction, and the fact the patch released on the last day of october.

[@Sir_Bucket]

Keep in mind Daisuke retired earlier this year. This is probably one of the new management's first patch. I would say they did good. It's not perfect of course, but it is fresh and interesting. having that kind of creativity is more important for me than getting the change right from the first try.

[@Maxler5795]

@@Sir_Bucket idk if they did "good" but i cant ssay they didnt try something interesting.

[@smithbabies7886]

They gave Faust a golf club. It has like 2 meaningful interactions.

[@Sir_Bucket]

As a faust player, this perfectly on brand. Faust has a lot of niche move that are only useful if you know how to quickly improvise with them. It's like constantly trying to cook a meal with what's left in the fridge'

[@TheN00bula]

The golf club had the potential to fix a lot of his issues but they made it -18 and completely non-disjointed. He is fundamentally the same as before other than some of the new item play, which is a shame since he has already felt power crept last season and his matchups spread just got even worse. The Japanese Faust players are normally pretty optimistic but even LeoFaust is dooming on main now… It actually might be over

[@smithbabies7886]

@@Sir_Bucket dude, adding spoiled milk to the fridge isn't going to change what you can make that will actually be good. Now if it wasn't spoiled, then now we'd be cooking, but it's all chunky and stinky right now.

[@xChieftainx]

I refuse to fight this version of ram cause the amount of me outplaying ram for her sword to rob me is insane

[@tangled55]

lol

[@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034]

Just outplayed 🤡

[@JokersHunt]

Coming from a person who picked the game up and wants to play zato but was looking into ram before the patch kinda don’t wanna play her if she is buglethal

[@xChieftainx]

I'm still wondering why they shot Jacko like the thing they gave Jacko for the nerf was genuinely terrible

[@GiantGunt_EthanRalph]

Ikr she won ONE tournament and arcsys decided to nuke her.

[@HolyTrinity-bz4li]

Agreed tbh they need to revert the changes they made to her 2D. There’s barely any Jacko players left. I guess they want her to be represented even less 😂

[@ShadeVial]

​@GiantGunt_EthanRalph I swear they do this for all the highly technical characters. First it was zato, and now jacko and asuka

[@Stardust_Torna]

Still new to playing Guilty Gear and I thought the stuff with Ram was like a feature. I play more Xrd Sign and Rev 2 and I realized how Ram's swords would get cancelled if I got hit but in Strive the swords still come out regardless if I got hit. Noticed the bug when playing Strive w/ my friends

[@bananaboy2373]

This is the guilty gear on crack patch. And we were already on speed

[@Macer84]

Garuda Impact being made into a projectile somehow makes Johnny an even more one-sided matchup against him, since you can now just say “no”. 10/10 (I’m a Johnny main)

[@mrpinguimninja]

I'm kinda disheartened that they seem to only nerf the hardest characters in the game. The best Zato can get, it seems, is them walking back on their own changes from past seasons, so the character isn't really buffed, and HC has been nerfed twice already while being the hardest character in the game, Asuka was the only top tier actually nerfed, and he's one of the hardest characters in the game. Makes you wonder what's the point of putting in the time to learn a harder character for them to frequently gut it. At the same time, May, Sol, Nago and Leo seem to never be nerfed and either keep their place and strength or get stronger. Also, it makes absolutely no fucking sense to completely overhaul a strong, arguably top tier character like Ram or Goldlewis and leaving Millia out to dry.

[@Macer84]

“Other characters could Kara cancel in different ways…” Johnny Guilty Gear:

[@Maxler5795]

8:12 Trust me, no. Outside of the core gameplay, things like ping detection (which for some fucking reason checks your pc's clock to calculate ping???) towers and general joining a match expirience is so buggy that it would make gonta scream of joy.

[@Ramsey276one]

Surprise Danganronpa! XD Miu: NonoNoNO Gonta, it's a programing term. There's no in insects inside the computer *I SWEAR* [SCARED OUT OF HER T!+$ ] Q_Q

[@Maxler5795]

@@Ramsey276one reminds me of a meme i ssaw a while ago. gonta pulls up to a gamestop "excuse me, i would like a copy of cyberpunk 2077! i have been told it has plenty of bugs in it!" just... dont tell him the origin of the term.

[@simpsama9011]

I can't believe this is the patch I started playing Strive in LMAOO it's really fun though!

[@joh1-z9j]

same dizzy got me into the game

[@simpsama9011]

@@joh1-z9j this is beautiful... Ky got me into the game lolz

[@hazzy5714]

lmao yeah I bought it on sale no idea a new season came out or anything, went in fully blind

[@demetripresley7329]

i mean, my boy bedman is now actually good so im happy

[@shadowmaksim]

This is weird to hear. While I'm not personally into it, "Strive" is still arguably one of the most popular fighters on the market right now...and it's experiencing this many issues. Though this does remind me of the last fighter ASW infamously rushed out that ended up having numerous bugs and other similar design issues... "BBTAG". It's almost kind of funny how history repeats itself. Oh well, at least "Strive" is likely to get fixed unlike that other time.

[@bovid2750]

"Every character got touched at least a little bit" new favorite GekkoSquirrel quote

[@hollowsongs3504]

One character that really gets me right now is Goldlewis, and it might just be because im bad/dont know the matchup, but he feels busted right now. I have a friend whoes learning him, and maybe he just counters the fuck out of bridget and dizzy, but i feel like I'm getting destroyed. His minigun also is so demoralizing, the increased length at full meter (which he gets so quickly for some reason??) just has me sitting there for a good 5 seconds, watching my health slowly drain. With his blockstrings doing as much as my combos at this point and being able to hard knockdown at full screen with minigun just to setup drone on my ass and do another blockstring, it's getting annoying. Maybe im just bad and don't know the matchup (probably lol), but if yall know how to beat goldlewis i'd appreciate it lol

[@alexsvedegard]

Goldlewis has kinda been a secret S tier for a WHILE, players like Leffen have already acknowledged this, but with this change yeah, as someone who can easily reach Celestial, Lewis is for SURE top 2 rn

[@lucas_lipp]

Bro, same, though. I'm not great at the game, but I was destroying my friends with Dizzy, and then one of them pulled out Goldlewis, a character he doesn't usually play, and he just DESTROYS me. He just kinda killed me in two interactions by chaining the same move into itself like four times, back to back, and watching more than half of my health bar just be *gone* felt wrong. I'm assuming a lot of this is just me being bad, but trying Nago and seeing his chipp damage be about the same as Nago's massive sword was just... eh

[@lil_Alii1]

as a GL player i disagree with ur placement Gl top 2 ur telling me slayer and johnny worse than GL? nuh bro maybe he's 5th or 6th ​@@alexsvedegard

[@SS5SS5]

In this Behemoth Typhoon... You can Behemoth Typhoon into Behemoth Typhoon

[@a_wild_Kirillian]

Well, yeah. However, you probably need to be more aggressive with space control and pressure and use your resources like FD and Deflect shield on defence. While being aware of his gauge: you can probably predict the minigun usage. Big task but having a plan helps with the learning speed.

[@TheRezule]

6:15 : "Four years later!" As an Xrd Ramlethal Main, Its been longer than 4 years

[@Iguro-sonic]

I wanted Jam kuradoberi in season 4 😭

[@ZachStarAttack]

the worst bug is how baiken is saved from zato's tier but zato is about the same viability wise

[@bradjenkins2861]

The only problem with Zato is that it takes actual skill to play him in a baby game. Go play against a really good Zato and tell me if you get to play the videogame. (odds are you won't)

[@ZachStarAttack]

@@bradjenkins2861 His "only problem" isn't that he takes skill. it's that he's bottom tier on the tier list and no one in their right mind believes he's anything higher than mid tier hahahhah

[@Sir_Bucket]

​​@@bradjenkins2861 me when I can destroy your entire pressure and defense by pressing P once: "truly it's a skill issue"

[@bradjenkins2861]

@@Sir_Bucket how do you press that punch button and take away all of zato's pressure if he's pressuring you? FD then throw it out? LOL You've told me nothing but the fact that you've never played a good Zato. Take a stroll outside your little bubble of bad players and see whats out there.

[@Sir_Bucket]

@bradjenkins2861 No need to be this aggressive lol. But more seriously, Zato can't attack for very long because of Eddie's meter. Even when he can, the smallest gap in his pressure means he looses his turn immediatly. Zato's problem isn't that he can't pressure, it's that one block/mistake will lead to him loosing the advantage. Guilty Gear is a game where reversals do explosive damage, that added to Zato's low health means those reversals are catastrophic for him. This is a character with the same health as Chipp, who has a less rewarding offense than Chipp, and the worst defensive toolkit in the game. I know gamers often complain about balancing for no reason, but Zato-1 is a character you have to play perfectly otherwise you loose. This isn't a skill-requirement anymore, this is just poor game design. A 9F player shouldn't have to play like a celestial player to beat other 9F players.

[@ShadeVial]

as an asuka main, mana regen nerfs makes the character way more punishing and polarizing. But i get it punish the resource character for bad resource management. But the super nerfs (yes even bookmark, the increased cost is significant and compounding on other changes) not only is mana even more rare to come by with the cube super not allowing for channel mana but even on hit now it kinda sucks? On top of losing to almost any full screen super in the game on reaction to the super flash (slayer, johnny, baiken, aba, and nago from experience and probably sol, bridget, ky, chip, pokemin, and may) making it unusable in neutral its damage is so mediocre im pretty sure just using it on a red roman cancel would always be better. Id even take a buff to like tension mana channel cause idk what else to use it on and it feels like im playing with half the mana most of the time. Even the changes to stuff like instant mana regen feel weird cause at least with that you could use it in an emergency along with bookmark super to get a full bar of mana but now the amount it gives feels kinda pitiful. At this rate im surprised they didnt nerf reduce cost with it and throwing cubes in neutral at all went from bad to just suicide.

[@T4nkE-ng1ne]

Considering how much things were switched from being regular attacks to projectiles, and vice versa, it makes me think that they might have had major back end changes to either system, either to allow for more attacks to contest projectiles (or just more interaction in general, example: Johnny's mist finer), or streamlining the development process in the future. Edit: or maybe it's them crunching it till the last minute, but this alone shouldn't really be the reason for moves that weren't touched much to be affected Edit2: pushing deadlines back for preorders have legal issues, I don't know if that is the same for season passes, but I don't think you are allowed to delay a product too long under an agreement that you're going to release it by a certain date and the customer has paid.

[@saibot2269]

who needs a test server when you have the live one - arc system works 2024/31/10

[@sidsscrumpy1647]

nobody is talking about it, but arcsys have reworked anji, of all characters, yet again! Like, he's the ONLY character that was reworked every season in one way in another, mostly they just removed his most damaging (and fun) routes and gave him some niche stuff in return with the only exception of S2 where arcsys added a few rin-ch combos. Ngl this specifically made me finally drop anji after 4 years and switch to Potemkin and, my god, he's literally a Potemkin from xrd but better. I'd say the glue-eater of strive is easilly in top-5 rn. His normals are very punishing, his 5 hit combo ending with garuda or flick deal solid 30% on almost every char with no risk meter, his 4 armour moves, 1 of which is a grab, are hilariously broken and lead to situations I shouldn't have able to escape but did. And on top of that Pot now has a proper mix-up with 6k in corner (leading into overhead mega fist, grab, air grab (hpb) or mashing 2p), making him yet another character that has a better 4-follow-up mixups than anji, a character defined by his 4-follow-up mixup.

[@nethstar]

Your theory on arcsys not having a lot of time makes sense if you remember they STILL haven't given some of the base roster a new move.

[@Skinwalker_Club]

This patch taught me the Burger Nation will always be up ✊🏽🍔

[@NollyProject]

Seeing the positives (intentional and otherwise) of Ramlethal's new quarter circle forward Slash is strange to me, because I hate the change not because of what it does on hit, but rather, the fact the old one was a go-to anti-aerial I relied on, and now I have one less way to just swat someone out of the air when I play as Ramlethal "Boiga" Valentine

[@ninjakame1553]

9:31 you talk about a different bug than the one shown on screen lol. The explosion guard crushes if you didnt block the inital sword toss but you talk about hitting ram not cancelling the toss. Either way those are both bugs ive seen and as a ram player im abusing it on my friends while its there lol

[@Jaspear-m1r]

Always loved since joining strive that the ggst devs will try some crazy shit to fix the game. If Don't go well then they change again. Keep it up devs❤

[@royalche3se]

I NOTIVED THE LEO BUG IMMEDIATELY AND THOUGHT IT WAS JUST A FEATURE

[@johnhoag6720]

As a testament player, I’m giving fun. Like I’m playing the same game outside of pot and ram counterplay but I love fighting the majority of characters in this game rn which isn’t normal for me.

[@thelawditself5586]

Goldlewis my beloved eternal low tier

[@megafirefo4783]

😅

[@Izigurand]

He needs it

[@alexsvedegard]

Totally not an S+ tier or anything.. 😭😭

[@Leffrey]

He’s called a low tier because he lowers you HP just by existing

[@romainvicta.]

Is the Discord link supposed to be expired? Because it is.

[@SaturnnsStash]

I was so disappointed with the patch, but the second I switched off Testament and picked up Dizzy this is the most fun I've been having in Strive! It's so buggy atm but I LOVE the non-bugged changes. (Now they just need to give testament a significant buff for once and I'll be even happier)

[@zhaoyun255]

Testament is just a former of his shadow self. I enjoy the Trap Style of Testament more than a generic Mid Range Zoner with a lame ass Stained curse for a cheap ass replacement for his old Curse system. Testament needs the Trap Style back more than ever. In the old school GG, Testament was mainly low tier to mid tier at best until AC+ and +R where he's undisputed top 1. However, he required for you to have deep understanding and adaptability of his toolkit to be utilized correctly. Strive Dizzy is just Dizzy with her main flaw removed (since Dizzy state no longer in Strive. She might be the case like ABA and Slayer when they are ported practically unchanged but their major flaws removed.)

[@Darksencevious]

Sol Badguy scares me now

[@giantdinoboy8264]

I unironically love the bugs and hate the intended changes.

[@AliasAnimates]

ive said it a thousand times, but ill say it again, i liked the flow of rams throw and pick up swords, it was one of the major things i liked about ram, and taking that away left me feeling like many of the potemkin players, yeah ram is better, but they took away what i liked about the character. she is not fun anymore. and knowing i likely wont ever be able to manually pick up swords anymore, i dropped the character. I know alot of people hated it, but i loved it. and it sucks to see it go.

[@MoriBoita]

just wait until unika and lucy bend the game backwards when released, thats's gonna be a whole building filled with c4

[@cheezandtoast]

me and my friend just got the game he rly like ram I really like potemkin its funny as a strive newbie we both became interested in those in specific

[@besterenfan]

8:02 redditto? Right?

[@Anthy_pantz]

Dibby....

[@mrblooper1994]

Here here Potemkin, show me in this dustloop page where the developers touched you!

[@LenaScott-w5z]

At least they said the bug fix is coming later this month, so I’m probably gonna wait till then to really keep playing the game. I’m okay with them giving characters these crazy changes for the season 4 launch, but I hope in future patches throughout the season they can smooth things out. Other than the bugs, it’s kinda similar to the season 3 launch imo, where that season was kinda a mess at launch due to hard knockdown with wild assault wall breaks, even though wild assault was cool on paper. I hope this season ends up being similar, where they make these changes that are cool on paper more polished to make them actually more fun in practice

[@ggmasterguiltygear6315]

WAIT POT HAS BLUE WILD ASSAULT NOW? time for a new video baybee

[@Leffrey]

It’s great for overpriced “we have kara pot buster at home” type shenanigans, but I do still find myself still wild assaulting into attacks and sliding to far in combos.

[@ggmasterguiltygear6315]

@@Leffrey Witness me..ill show you power,in about 2hrs

[@Yxazel]

I honestly love Rams Sword, it reminds me of melty blood and gave me the desire of playing her again. I wish it wasn't a bug, and if it is Aww... But if it isn't Les goooo!!!!

[@dillon9]

At least Elphelt got buffed.

[@dprime2185]

Mortal combat 1 did sell one million more copies then guilty gear strive but it’s concurrent players across all platforms is around 1/5 of what strive gets along with the fact that Mortal Kombat had less entries than under night Evo. So I think strive is 100% replaced them in the big 3

[@themlgjeff5618]

This update ruined almost all my combos for sin

[@Hamisback]

We just going to casually gloss over the Ram, rekka 1 dash canceling into rekka 1, and not getting the dash canceling lockout so they can loop back into rekka 1...

[@beanman9760]

Guys I don’t play strive but I have to know is Faust good in this update?

[@undine623]

I stopped playing strive for a while and decided to come back once the patch dropped, but now I'm not sure if I should wait until the bugs are fixed or just play and deal with it at the cost of my sanity

[@KonoDmaxda]

I would say play it if you can, if youre having fun, and just laugh at the bugs cause theyre gonna be going away soon, hopefully

[@benisign]

Low-key I prefer the idea of gg being more extreme like it used to be as long as they keep nerfing damage. I want more moves and more weird shit with interesting manual execution.

[@breezer2401]

As a Test main, S4 is my end. I shall be swaping to Dizzy now. She is better Test.

[@lucas_lipp]

Are they actually that much worse? I play a bit of Testament on the side, sometimes, but was really looking forward to Dizzy, so I just played her for a few days and had the time of my life. Then I played Testament against a friend and suddenly struggled a lot, and thought that I was just simply worse than I used to be, or maybe Johnny just has a good matchup against Testament. Anyway, I'm just gonna blame the balance patch now. Me being bad at the game? No, sir! It's the balance that's at fault.

[@breezer2401]

@@lucas_lipp S4 jonny’s mist finder deletes projectiles. It’s actually a lost matchup. It’s not that Test is bad, but over the last 4 years every character has been buffed in some pretty big way besides them. The whole giving each base roster character a new move really pisses me off because there are some characters that needed that a lot more than fucking sol and ram.

[@ham9134]

I like new pot I could Kara easily but I like pot buster trades it’s funny keep in mind I also love raam in Ki who can also do the same thing with his grabs

[@Leo98pm]

10:15 then just wait? Like if you knew you weren't gonna have fun why did you enter the tournament?

[@gamingandanimeftw]

He usually plays in SaltyEU to meet his 1 online tourney a week quota, but both TOs for it got sick this past Monday, so he just entered the tourney he discussed here instead

[@jeffthomas122]

Less than 10 minutes late🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

[@CARAMELMADLAD]

Hey, I just came back to Guilty Gear, and I just hit floor 9 (I was floor 6 before). Am I making good progress, or is floor 9 still considers beginner level?

[@Mossyifer]

my only complaint is that on round start ramlethal is literally unbeatable with 90% of the cast and that slayer got no real nerf, because oh my god getting moved down a floor because I didn't guess right on a slayer's overpowered cross up makes me feel so terrible

[@a_wild_Kirillian]

I can understand the frustration of losing against Slayer, I had some (especially after losing for 20 minutes against a F10 Slayer in the Park). But why would you care about floor changes as if it really reflects your skill level instead of how much of a win/lose streak you have? FGs are volatile, you're going to lose big. What matters is when you do cool things. And turn on "Skip rating update sequences" if you haven't.

[@k4iizzen]

jack o valentine😝

[@99loolill]

It feels the team changed.

[@AndrewBoss-o8f]

you forgot sol badgy

[@acemaison2834]

I think good amount of patch besides bugs , pot , ram and ky it seems almost good. But I’m not a fan especially with them nerfing jack-O’s mix and giving it to dizzy . That was just dirty and I hope if they ever decide to give the other characters and maybe jack-O a new move they better not nerf her again .

[@jayfeather7676]

I have to say im in the same boat, like i know people are pissed, and i know things are buggy as hell and this is factually a pretty broken patch release, but damn im sure having fun lol

[@aubrey143.]

i would love to try out this patch but I genuinely cant even play a single online match :)

[@arbetor12]

Where you playing from?

[@aubrey143.]

@ Us east coast

[@arbetor12]

@aubrey143. really? I'm playing in the uk and from there I can find some players in West Coast. You playing at peak hours?

[@sparkred4565]

hey im a baiken player, im happy with the buffs considering last patch (yes i am bias)

[@SaviorAnthon]

Me too, I'm just blocking out everyone else complaining about their mains and having fun with my strong character. Also, it's nice to see everyone else deal with their characters being worse, which is what us baiken mains had to for a while.

[@sparkred4565]

@ she deserved it after not being compensated last patch anyway

[@doubled9645]

I want danzai to hit 10 times next patch

[@leonlindkvist]

i have only play this version twice so for me i see no issue

[@angryalicorn8535]

Johnny just lived in season 4 before patch so they just threw something random in

[@Zeek0079]

I think maybe arksys spent more time on the 3v3 mode than they thought.

[@baka_telas4266]

Testament johnny and other characters got major changes last patch thats why they didnt get any significant changes now

[@pateceinsanity7715]

Testaments patch was more so for consistency and fixing already existing issues, but not anything that changes the characters playstyle in a significant way

[@baka_telas4266]

@pateceinsanity7715 gravr reaper going farther, teleport being made less laggy andsuccubus staying on teleport are not changes to sleep on

[@Marcomax742]

If anything, this patch got me back into Strive. So it succeeded in that. On the Potemkin and Ram changes, they sort of feel like the kind of changes you get in an MMO update. It's not just about buffs or nerfs, but about adjusting playstyles. I can't remember fighting games doing that.

[@PowerAids]

They may have nerfed potemkin... but i got very funny moments from fighting dizzy with him (please dizzy mains never use ice field when fighting a potemkin)

[@ashtonallen7524]

Ape escape music. Blessed 🙌 🔥 😎 but :( for guilty gear.

[@sharzinlalebazri5673]

I know Strive shills are known for being delusional, but you consistently take the cake.

[@4ainik401]

Guilty Gear fans: The game's a buggy mess🤣 Tekken fans: The game's a buggy mess😭

[@firework0097]

I wanna say that im REALLY lovin the patch i just hate the bugs

[@haoshydranoid9462]

As a Ram main, I hate the rework. They removed skill expression using her rekka cancel and every other change to her moves make her feel bland to me. I understand why they would want to change the swords and I like the idea because I understand that it was brain dead. But this rework feels way too much for me. She feels brain dead in a different way now. Makes me feel like we might as well get a new game/version because they keep making these big changes and adding in new mechanics to the point where it's nothing like the way it used to be and straight up breaking the game. Blazblue and older Guilty Gears at least basically gave us multiple similar games to go back to if you don't like the patch/meta of the current version. You can't do that here because these are mandatory updates everyone has to deal with in a game that has always been very different from the others. Some of my other mains got weird changes too. How many times am I supposed to readjust to characters I already paid for in the same game? We're paying over a hundred dollars on this game + dlc that they can't even maintain properly. R.I.P.

[@sintwelve]

I love the new potemkin. That kara cancel stuff was hard to train for. It was really difficult incorporate it all the time.

[@VoidCloaker00]

TRRRRUUUUUUEE FACTS

[@SuperBigCheesyTV]

Strive as a whole is a genuine 5/10. Is it an awful fighting game? 100% I’ve played way better. The core fundamentals as a whole for this game (especially this patch) are now out the window. The meta just consists of “low risk, high reward” and it’s never gonna be fixed. On the contrary however is this game really fun? No. But I can’t help but have a good laugh here and there with buddies of mine. This game is amazing on a casual level but at a competitive aspect my god why the hell did we not nerf the right characters 😭

[@Adair.c]

Yummers

[@MorbyLol]

and they still haven't fixed the matchmaking

[@thejackofnotrades3844]

Im still salty about the sol nerfs

[@SupremeLordBruv]

YAYYYY Guilty gear strive and hard dru-

[@Concrete21]

This is my favourite patch so far. Made the game so much more fun. ( I play johnny)

[@arw000]

I'm not happy with this patch and my character got buffed... It feels like the changes to characters were like, trying to make strategies that are common on lower floors more viable. Problem: The "correct" (good) way to play the character changes as well... The changes to May's 5h are just too absurd. Our reward is too high. I really don't like it when the good things to do are not the fun things to do...

[@dylanmemmott9094]

Throw pops stain btw

[@argus5597]

They should make arbiter negative edge so we can have unblockables better than stain pop that would have been more needed last season ;-;

[@KH0RNE]

as a pot main? i'm enjoying potemkin just as much as i did when he had kara cancels. i do miss karas, but i also love the skill expression we get with our combo routes now, and our armor.

[@whiteflamesbluefire5080]

I play zato that’s all

[@CompressionPolice]

Adding karas to the game was an awful decision. It just makes balancing way more messy and severely skill-gates a few characters' best options.

[@giantdinoboy8264]

I think it was a good way to limit grappler complaints from low level players which are where a lot of the grappler and zoner complaints come from.

[@Wolvahulk]

8:45 still smaller than League's bug list (Yes I know it's not really comparable) lol.

[@totallynotdio1311]

-lucy and unika instead of characters people wanted like jam, roboky, zappa and raven -focusing resources on 3v3 mode instead of what the players wanted -slayer terrorising players -and now this cursed patch (bugs, goldlewis and johnny cracked for no reason, chip gets a weird rope move instead of just giving him the teleport back, ky ram and goldlewis bugs, ram and pot reworks, kara cancels gone, my beloved rainwater on axl is ruined, and many characters got undeserved nerfs or the buffs werent enough like with zato...) Overall... arcs keep on loosing. I really hope theyll bounce back during s5 (if there will be one).

[@AnthanKrufix]

People have not shut up about where the 3v3 mode is since it was announced last season. And I heard a complaint a day about how Season 3 didn't have any newcomers only old characters.

[@fadetoblackened4407]

Strongly disagree with the potemkin discussion, saying that they’re catering to the casuals whereas they’re catering to the pre-strive pot players is debatably just wrong

[@pateceinsanity7715]

? How

[@fadetoblackened4407]

@ By giving him back HFB recovery and buster range, like he had in every game pre-strive?

[@pateceinsanity7715]

@@fadetoblackened4407 they can do both of those things at once

[@someaccount5200]

This is a perfectly normal Arcsys patch. They've always had patch notes that felt like they were just throwing darts on a dartboard for balance changes

[@harrylane4]

Yeah, if anything a patch this chaotic is a sign of the old pre-strive arcsys peeking through

[@someaccount5200]

@harrylane4 "let's nerf Noel 4D for the fourth time in a row"

[@dmfyre]

yeag

[@Gjrafy_the_noop]

Hello gekke