Did ANYONE Win The KAT-Randle Trade?!

This deal is a lot of things - a cost-cutting move for Minnesota, a perfect fit for New York...and ultimately, a potential lose-lose for all involved.
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[@chauhanashish9825]

The Timberwolves did the best they could to get out of the financial situation they were in. And for New York they got a Stretch 5 who can shoot the lights out

[@OLAOnlyLegendzAllowed]

It's a Win/Win in my opinion. Saying it's a Lose/Lose is wild lol

[@pimpnamedslickback7780]

Not a stretch 5 can’t protect the rim

[@chauhanashish9825]

@@pimpnamedslickback7780 everyone knows that Karl ain't a good defender and he gets into foul trouble a lot as well

[@pimpnamedslickback7780]

@@chauhanashish9825 yep. If he matched up with Gianni’s or embiied he’d foul out by half time

[@brandoni241]

​@@chauhanashish9825yeah, and if Mikal, Hart, and OG weren't good defenders, it would be a problem. Theres still only 6 teams with dominant offensive bigs and KAT isn't a bad defender. He showed he can play solid defense in spots...

[@sorn4947]

Timberwolves getting insane flexibility for Ants prime and getting to pay their young talent while also being able to make another move or splash FA signing while adding one of the best contracts in the league is in no way a loss. Saying the league average offense will somehow get worse is absolutely wild after trading for a top great 3&D performer and McDaniels had a down year. Adding Dillingham off the bench as well as having Naz Reid in the second unit. Ingles has a good catch and shoot 3. I just don’t see how Minnesota after arguably having an improved offense won’t be a top 4 western seed.

[@kevinlam4550]

Cap flexibility doesn’t mean jack shit when you don’t attract free agents. No one is going to sign in Minnesota in free agency no matter how much money you have and how competitive you are as a team. They’ll sign someone(s) with that flexibility but it won’t be a star player and they’ll end up overpaying the players they sign to attract them.

[@robojimtv]

​@kevinlam4550 It's not about pure cap space. It's being able to operate with a full size MLE rather than be at the second apron.

[@konzza]

I wouldn't go as far as describing a team with Rudy Gobert on an untradeable max contract having insane cap flexibility. Not saying this to have a go at Gobert, but just stating the fact from salary standpoint.

[@robojimtv]

@@konzza he is entering the final two years and they can work with him to turn that final PO year into more years at a lower number (basically change the final 46M into a 3/105 for example)

[@konzza]

@@robojimtv Yes. In two years they might have insane flexibility.

[@tylerriley2587]

We don't know just sit back and watch🍿🍿

[@OLAOnlyLegendzAllowed]

This could be a potential Finals Match Up now. That wasn't the case before the trade. I REST MY CASE

[@tylerriley2587]

@@OLAOnlyLegendzAllowed 👎 New York lacks depth; floor spacing will be crucial for the Minnesota Timberwolves. and Ant and Randle are two guys who need the ball in the hands out there on the floor

[@AVu89]

Oh we know, Good luck on having Kat to stay on the floor lmao

[@AVu89]

@@tylerriley2587 you dont know wtf you're talking about boy. You sit back and watch Thibs run your players to the ground.

[@tylerriley2587]

@@AVu89 I know I Thibs rep; if I were a young player, I wouldn't want to play for a coach who runs his guys into the ground and gets injuries yearly, especially when you're young and haven't hit your prime. I think the Timberwolves won the trade, but you have two big guys, Randle and Gobert, who can't stretch the floor.

[@Will-db6vs]

As a knicks fan, randle has been pretty fine on offense with either hartenstein or robinson on the floor, so the spacing wont really affect him just more so ant.

[@nbapbaupdate8338]

Minnesota Timberwolves STACKED right now 💯

[@jj47k.]

Guess not lol

[@tylerfosse7336]

Having Naz start and have Randle come off the bench and run his own squad is the way to go. I'd even leave Donte to come off the bench with Randle.

[@TheBlue312]

in what world would an all star like Randle agree to come off the bench for someone he’s better than?

[@HoopsAficionado]

The Knicks were right in pulling the trigger on this one. They got an adequate replacement for Hartenstein. They are easily a top four team in the East and a threat to make the Finals.

[@zhou.mp4]

donte divencenzo should not be included in that trade i would love to see the nova 4 in the knicks together

[@balltalkdeep]

this guy should narrate all the vids like this

[@andredornelles8014]

Thanks for the video. Everyone have been talking about the positives (theoretically) and don’t realize the more realistic negatives

[@winstonellis1240]

Towns is fr the tri-state and he played for Kentucky. He's built for this moment of his career 👌🏾🙌🏾☝🏿💪🏽⬆️🏆

[@JeremyFrey-u3w]

Knicks obviously win

[@rnuke_rocket]

The Harden-Simmons trade was the real lose-lose deal that's tough to beat 😂

[@curtishardaway3366]

We got pg out of that deal by getting out of Simmons contact 🤷🏾‍♂️💪🏽

[@CurtisFutch]

Before u predict is a lose lose it must play who are a Jeannie in a lamp

[@jeffe2222]

There's nobody who can convince me the Wolves didn't win this trade. Traded an anchor for a couple of life preservers. Connelly just keeps cooking. It's amazing.

[@FSanducci845]

Yeah, the twolves won that traded alright 🤣

[@jj47k.]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@NiteOwlVibes]

Knicks lose important depth, grit, defense, bench 3point %. Wolves just lost a big body that could rotate in and out to handle Jokic. This is 100% lose-lose. Randle is terrible in the playoffs, Kat was on the bench in crunch time throughout most of the playoffs last year. 😂😂😂guys its the Knicks lol this is a second round exit to either the 76ers, Pacers, or the Heat.

[@chris5947]

Yeah Knicks did

[@icedtea5433]

The knicks won, obv. Kat is a slightly better player statistically than J Randal. Like, literally in every stat, it's wild.

[@sirfrescobar4830]

Except KAT’s contract would’ve buried the wolves

[@AVu89]

Knicks won? lmao delusional Knicks fan think they're title contenders with KAT. Yall fix gonna learn!!

[@bdubzzzzz]

​@AVu89 lmao no doubt. He didn't even mention KATs massive contract or how the Wolves got DiVincenzo on a very team friendly deal and a valuable 1st. And got out of KATs awful contract so they can add a player that could actually be the 2nd best player on a championship team. Unlike KAT who proved again this year against Dallas that he ain't it

[@bdubzzzzz]

Do you not realize that the Knicks also traded DiVincenzo and a 1st to the Wolves which are very valuable assets? And that the Wolves have a perfect replacement for KAT in Naz Reid who is wayyyyy cheaper? And that the Wolves are gonna let Randle walk after this year so they can sign an actual superstar instead of paying KATs bum ass $55M/year for the next 4 years??? Most casual take I've ever seen 😂

[@EJWZ0]

​@@AVu89how are the Knicks not contenders? The team is stacked

[@shakalaka1477]

big win for denver

[@davidtran2026]

Twolves played well enough with Naz Reid taking KATs position in the starting rotation when KAT was hurt. I think the Wolves will be fine. I have more questions with the Knicks utilizing KAT and his questionable playoff history.

[@75aces97]

Nah. With the loss of IHart and Robinson out till January NYK needed a center. Not only did they get one, but one of the most efficient on offense. It cost them a productive forward who was an awkward fit and a good 3D guard who was about to lose minutes. Not sure what to make of this for Minnesota. On the surface this could be a downgrade, but they still have Gobert, so i could see this still worling out for them this season. If nothing else they have more cap options next off-season.

[@stephyngreen5299]

Nobody is putting an all star/all nba player on the bench, Randle has already played with a non shooting center so this would be a smooth transition. Plus Randle is a better passer inside the paint

[@tgfd2114]

This video is just me striding the Knick’s lmao

[@v2platy801]

I’m 🎉🎉

[@carlandrewbermoy667]

denver nuggets won the trade, the trio of gobert, kat and naz reid stopped mvp jokic but now its gone. 😂

[@Jamellii]

Wolves boutta be an 7th or 8th seed. Towns is a lot more important to that team than people think and Ant is going to want out.

[@ReyDonovan-kv4jd]

They did it to maximize the window for Ant to win. KAT is a role player not a complimentary piece

[@AJ_savage16]

Towns is soft and doesn't play defense that's why he was traded

[@nydibs]

Towns missed 30 games last season and 50 games the year before. Wolves did fine without him

[@EJWZ0]

Ant has years before he wants out. They literally made this trade for him and the future flexibility of the team to add talent. They wouldn't have be able to do that if they kept Towns and continued to go deeper into the luxury tax. Yall need to educate yourself on these new rules because they are very restricting.

[@Mcpaholtz71]

I’m amazed at the number of unqualified people opining on the NBA. This channel is more about BS than the NBA.

[@MFCHYLL]

First video I disagree with

[@JayTeeProds]

I see a Randle swap at the deadline but they could also do the impossible like Kawhi to Toronto

[@Bsfnelz20]

Not even gonna get close to that championship 😂😂. First round exit

[@timocruz510]

Randle is Kawhi??

[@keithjenkins5617]

Perfect take 👍

[@chapmanandchapmanproductio974]

Yea towns is a total stallion !!!! Aka an um !!! This makes sense now !!!!!

[@davidpalmer5967]

All Trades can be Wins and Losses

[@canadianchungus701]

I disagree - I think Minnesota's worst trade was the package they gave to UTAH to bring in Gobert so KAT didn't have to be center and minimize his defensive weakness. Trading Kat out is the best thing because it let's all the other guys develop, and outside of scoring, he doesn't bring much to the table. With Randle, at least you can put him in the post or he can get down the driving lane. On the flip side, why Knicks did it kind of doesn't make any real sense... they have no real post presence aside OG Anunoby and yes KAT had his best years with Thibodeau coaching him, but does that justify paying 50+ million for a guy who's basically a rich man's Ryan Anderson?

[@ReyDonovan-kv4jd]

The same Gobert who made them relevant and a contender? You clowns don't watch basketball

[@Brooklynquietmoney]

@@ReyDonovan-kv4jdthey still Gave up way too much bro and he got a contract that nobody will take plus he looked bad in the playoffs

[@Weebei]

I think the Wolves won. KAT wasn't a great fit for the role needed. But we will all see together this season.

[@trevorhandberry2158]

Wow. The Wolves “won” really?! lol a Randle and Gobert tandem is TRAGICALLY HILARIOUS! Yall seriously think the wolves got BETTER?! No they got worse THIS YEAR! The Knicks won this trade AS IT STANDS. Randle is a bench player in TODAYS league. Bro KAT is a WAY WAY WAY WAY BETTER player than Randle for both teams. lol I can’t believe people think The Wolves got better but the Knicks got worse? 😂

[@nydibs]

@trevorhandberry2158 - Randle was an all star last year, saying he’s a bench player is wild. And even if he is, that would just mean that Naz Reid gets more minutes. KAT has been terrible in the playoffs for the wolves, he needed to go, he’s not worth 60 mil a year

[@nbapbaupdate8338]

Rise or another fall for Charlotte Hornets new ERA & new owners you're next video theScore 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@peterakin5793]

How did the Hornets lose this one???😅

[@febriz6057]

Some extra poor souls are now fated to be drafted by the Hornets.

[@robojimtv]

They got second rounders and cash lol

[@RedRanchu]

Now if the TWolves can get rid of Gobert, THAT would be even better

[@pg13pacernation30]

THE MINNESOTA TIMBERWOLVES ARE MAKING A HUGE MISTAKE BY TRADING KARL ANTHONY-TOWNS. The starting 5 is undeniably worse without KAT. This was a a top-five starting unit in the league, were the best defensive team in the Association for long periods, and were on the doorstep of the number one seed in the Conference. When replacing KAT with Naz Reid or Julius Randle in the starting lineup, it’s a clear downgrade in talent and star power. One could make a case for improved depth with the addition of Donte Divencenzo in the deal and the sweetener of the draft pick, but usually when you lose the star in the trade it’s not a good sign - and this is certainly a net negative in that respect.

[@tresdonharris5088]

KAT wasn’t even in the top 5 best two man game on the wolves….

[@EJWZ0]

They had to trade him for financial flexibility or risk being in deep luxury tax hell. They would have had to win the title with KAT next year or be screwed for years to come. The risk was way too great and Edwards is still super young to build around.

[@chrisgoodwin2745]

The media loved the wolves last year because of Kat and ant so the Knicks get Kat wand he is all of a sudden a bum. Leon Rose Is the best executive in the nba and people are not realizing that yet. The Knicks are by far the best team in the nba

[@nydibs]

KAT was considered a bum until the wolves finally had some success last year. Then he went back to his bum ways in the Dallas series

[@Brooklynquietmoney]

@@nydibshe’s legit multiple time all star and made an all nba team but hey yea sounds like a bum 😂😂

[@JC-od3tg]

I think they both won. The Timberwolves got less expensive because they were no where near contenders so what's the point of being this expensive and the knicks got better.

[@rale2701]

Denver won this trade

[@kauaandrade4098]

I still feel like we should've sent Deuce instead of DiVo

[@mullen25]

uhuh uhuh and kat been out tons of games of last 2 seasons with injuries. but whatever.

[@PYHUFNY]

Randle too

[@astromatto2154]

U guys are too low on the defense of KAT in these playoff. plus the thibs effect.

[@iitchydog8770]

Not enough ball to go around for Ant and Randle

[@christophertaylor4703]

This is a very information point of view

[@kevin54524]

Lose lose for all? The hornets got picks and cash though😂

[@DreBruh]

do a video about the jaguars and the doug pederson stuff please guys

[@bossaudio12]

Dumb take saying Knicks can kid towns defense better than Minnesota could... this guy is just yapping

[@denn15m8]

Wolves needed to get rid of Kat, and they got donte which is a win for them, they will just trade randle now

[@cinnabar546]

Wolves poverty franchise lol kat literally top 3/4 center in the nba

[@DaFactsNoNonsense1713]

It's always a "lose-lose" situation, when two teams trade players to each other, that neither team wants. Why would either team, want the other guy, that the other team didn't want?! KAT's an overgrown kid, who's more interested in playing video-games, then playing NBA-basketball for Championships, while Randle stopped being a "star" player, the second he got paid. Don't expect these guys to help these teams, when they didn't do that with their previous teams

[@XtraLife90]

no facts all nonsense

[@DaFactsNoNonsense1713]

@@XtraLife90 that's why you commented, instead of saying anything that mattered

[@XtraLife90]

​@@DaFactsNoNonsense1713 I'm sorry you're sad

[@DaFactsNoNonsense1713]

@@XtraLife90 you're sorry? You're just here to say you're stupid, without being forced to do it

[@sirfrescobar4830]

@@DaFactsNoNonsense1713tf kinda comeback is this

[@DaemonPix]

The wolves are better off now. They need players who are actually on the floor.

[@datruth1906]

Every trade is a potential lose-lose. I can take any side of any trade and make it a lose with poor performance, money issues, lack of longevity, or injury. The Randle disrespect also continues. Not a horrible breakdown but I just hate the bait titles

[@GARIONN1]

Towns still way better than Randles

[@technicalho]

i dont think this guy watches basketball, please hire someone better (the score)

[@PobodyNerfect-k7j]

Didn't watch the video but answer is yes: KAT is Embiid 2.0 and will never win unless he's a role player being carried to the championship. My Denver-less bracket had MIN vs. BOS in the final and it would have happened if not for KAT being #2 on MIN.

[@christophertifre2018]

Knicks gave up too much and have no bench

[@TheMarslMcFly]

Saying the Knicks have no bench has to be the most idiotic take I've seen in all of this

[@kevin54524]

Thibs just need 2 non starter😂

[@Brooklynquietmoney]

Lmao what u don’t ball huh mcbride is a dog precious is a solid big man and hart is legit a 6th man of the year Contender u r buggin bro

[@PYHUFNY]

McBride, Payne, Shamet, Achiuwa, Robinson, Sims ...

[@kelvinpresley307]

I think they both won...

[@posivibe989]

Take wrong by not mentioning Naz

[@JoeCash89]

2:04

[@danyoung-eq2he]

Denver Nuggets is the true winner😅

[@ReyDonovan-kv4jd]

They were a loser the second they let Pope leave and signed Westy

[@tresdonharris5088]

This video screams “box score” watcher, I give Knicks fans a week into the season before they’re sick of KAT’s offensive fouls.

[@flamingbow3]

Knicks for Clicks

[@FallenFromNeptune]

Very rarely do I disagree with a Score vid. These were wins for both. Julius is an Ironman (minus his shoulder last year) and Donte is a bucket. As a fan of NY, I’ll miss them both but ecstatic for the spacing Kat gives us. Plus we’re still waiting on Mitch and he can take his time and recover.

[@kevinlam4550]

Makes no sense for Minny! Randle is still going to want a contract regardless of how healthy he is. He ain’t giving Minny a discount deal next year. Randle < Towns offensively and in age. He wants a large long term contract like Towns. Unless he goes insane with Edwards, paying him that much is like pretty much not doing that trade and being stuck with Kat’s contract.

[@cynicaltimber3455]

🙄

[@daanishgupta]

Fire your analysts please because they don't know ball.

[@uncleandy.crypto]

this whole channel is a lose lose. trash

[@studadon1]

You're reaching. 😒

[@dretowers5977]

Lose lose they both trash👎🏿 Towns soft asf and play on the perimeter on offense even tho he 7 ft and Randle injury prone inefficient scorer

[@stephyngreen5299]

Nobody is putting an all star/all nba player on the bench, Randle has already played with a non shooting center so this would be a smooth transition. Plus Randle is a better passer inside the paint