Having watched each and every episode of this series I have to say that this is unequivocally some of the best journalism I have seen in quite a while. At first I was amazed that such quality reporting about our own f-ed up election and political system came out of Australia. But the more I thought about it the more I realized that it is truly an indictment of the American media system as a whole. It seems that no network or platform in the US has the wherewithal or the balls to do something like this. Kudos to ABC for this example of first rate journalism.
@jameshenderson48763 күн бұрын
"They were not deceived, this what they wanted." Inscription on the tombstone of American democracy.
@eaofdeath1874 күн бұрын
Can we please get this level of coverage BEFORE the 2025 Australian election? I know the ABC has been scared of accurately covering Aussie politics since Howard cut funding and ScoMo filled the board with former Liberal politicians but the media has a responsibility to inform the voters.
@Roosimpson5 күн бұрын
My only complaint about this series is that it is ending. Thank you for the awesome work!
@ABCNewsIndepth4 күн бұрын
More to come! If You’re Listening is a weekly show!
@matpk4 күн бұрын
@@ABCNewsIndepth Project 2025 USA = 1935 Germany 🎉
@LiamDooley-ki1jz4 күн бұрын
I feel informed and depressed. My kind of journalism.
@davidcoleman7574 күн бұрын
The title of this excellent series is looking increasingly prophetic. From recent developments it's obvious that America is clearly in deep, deep trouble.
@stuntguy30005 күн бұрын
ABC's coverage of the 2024 US Election has set the bar high. Well done to everyone involved, fantastic shows.
@JudyFayLondon5 күн бұрын
Couldn't agree more. Very profound.
@RidgeyDidgeDude5 күн бұрын
🤣Every one of them said Trump couldn't win?? ✊🤗 Yeah, they were spot on! 😁😆
@Squashed8Ball5 күн бұрын
@@RidgeyDidgeDude BS None of them predicted the outcome of the election. 🤡
@Jabid215 күн бұрын
And the best part is, none of the U.S. news outlets bothered to provide this depth of coverage and context like Australia’s ABC did. I’ll give it to Australia for this.
@Andy-zu3tv5 күн бұрын
Don't you mean low bar, they were more or less campaigning for the donkeys and their insight was so acute they were expecting the donkeys to win.
@dearbronte6864 күн бұрын
"But I didn't think the leopards would eat MY face", sobs a woman who voted for the *Leopards Eating Faces Party.*
@simonclark36874 күн бұрын
The best coverage of the US election anywhere. As a Brit, I enjoyed the "Who Broke Britain" series, but this one was a different level. Hope there's more in-depth series in the future!
@shirleyhaugaard96435 күн бұрын
It tells me that Americans are completely and utterly lost.
@infin8ee5 күн бұрын
Not all but the half that are being force marched along this dystopian time line are the ones I feel sorry for. The others wanted this insane clown show.
@LaSpastica905 күн бұрын
American here. I voted for Harris and have been severely sick to my stomach since the election. I definitely feel like our nation is lost. And Trump is a master manipulator. He used people’s anger against them. I see now how Hitler did it. I am very afraid now. I never thought this would happen.
@Shiggystardust5 күн бұрын
America is an oligarch. When you have only two options it can seem that way. People are just trying to survive. And can you blame them? Biden in his second day of office signs executive orders about trans rights in sports yet does nothing for years to address the border crisis. This sends people the wrong message on where a governments priorities are.
@martinwalsh52125 күн бұрын
Lost forever
@94marci5 күн бұрын
So sorry to hear that. lets hope that the next 4 years will be over soon..@@LaSpastica90
@Sendu75 күн бұрын
With Merrick Garland delaying and stalling the insurrection case, Trump had little to fear as a "victim".
@jasonvoorhees61524 күн бұрын
There is no Insurrection.
@austinbeige4 күн бұрын
Damned if you ban, damned if you don't.
@MichaelSorensen-bl3ec5 күн бұрын
Do Americans actually go to school for an education, or do they just pick up whatever their extremist of choice is ranting about at any given time?
@dimitrivforvictory2714 күн бұрын
There education system, especially in red states has been gutted beyond belief, and they are easily programmable with propaganda. If you believe so vestments in god, the Bible, the kiddy fiddling churchies it’s easy to get programmed with propaganda for political agendas, especially when they wrap the things into one cultish football team of devotion.
@meredithhall545 күн бұрын
A villain, a martyr and now our king. What those who voted for him don't understand is that they will be hurt most now that he's back.
@johannavanklaveren664 күн бұрын
And as Canaris demonstrated, traitors to fascism sit at the very top.
@uromvictor4 күн бұрын
That's what u decide to believe. 😂😂😂.
@Preetvnd4 күн бұрын
@@uromvictor and you believe Trump is King 🤣🤣🤣
@unknown5150variable4 күн бұрын
What gets me is that they don't se that they're the main target and victims of his con, they just don't get it. But if something happens, maybe they get hit financially, I think,at least I hope, a lot of them will start waking up. Lol if 5hat happens they're not going to be happy about how they've been used and lied to. They've already been pumped full of anger and pent up rage, if they lose control of thisQult it's going to bite them in the patootty, BiGGly.
@mronions72505 күн бұрын
Amazing series, what a line to end on.
@nromk5 күн бұрын
So we could ban people from our store for disruptive behavior, but social media sites can't ban politicians for disruptive behavior?
@dimitrivforvictory2714 күн бұрын
Apparently it’s ok to just, lie. About everything. Over and over again. I mean the meet fact they have creationism and flatearther stuff so prevalent in there society, idk how you get through to them. Easily programmable NPCs
@MacrobianNomad5 күн бұрын
Great conclusion to a great series! The fact that InfoWars was bought by The Onion in a state sanctioned auction was beyond satire and just the perfect ending to Jones’ empire 😂
@MichaelSorensen-bl3ec5 күн бұрын
And so satisfying.
@Merc3995 күн бұрын
LOL was it though? I think you should google that xD and then go watch Infowars because they're still on air rn. As Infowars xD It's hilarious you pretentious, morally and factually incorrect authoritarians always want to silence anyone who disagrees and live in some intentional echo chamber. well too bad. not happening.
@Merc3995 күн бұрын
why don't you go ahead and Google that sale. just double check that real quick xD the sale was reversed and Infowars is still on air as we speak. how does that make you feel? :) does your authoritarian desire to silence anyone you disagree with make you squirm when you hear they're still on air? I hope it does fr xD
@asheronwindspear5524 күн бұрын
@Merc399 NOPE. Jones had just filed to have it reversed. It hasn't actually happened. Once again, your closed media loop has only given you half of the information that you need to form an informed opinion.
@Merc3994 күн бұрын
@@asheronwindspear552 The Washington Post - "Judge Pauses the Onion’s takeover of Infowars over auction concerns" the hilarious part is the actual highest bid is by people who support Infowars and will leave Alex editorial control xD they put in 3.5 million when the Onion only put in 1.75 million LOL. They've been live in studio since Thursday evening of last week my dude
@mblakenichols5 күн бұрын
As an American, I am thoroughly embarrassed and let down by my fellow countrymen.
@martin22894 күн бұрын
As a Canadian, I fear I'll soon be experiencing the same sensation with respect to the next federal election here that's likely to see a Trumpish right-wing acolyte voted into power.
@websitemartian4 күн бұрын
the world is getting fed up with you leftists . 😡
@martin22894 күн бұрын
@@websitemartian Wow, speaking for "the world"... Talk about hubris.
@matthewestrada52174 күн бұрын
@@martin2289it's happening like it or not
@annoyedaussie39424 күн бұрын
If you believe the propaganda from either your Democrats or Republicans ok I agree with you and you should be ashamed. If you don't then hold your head high.
@sinbadasia4 күн бұрын
The health of democracy relies on the integrity of the parts contained within . Trump did not rise alone, there are many complicit parts - those that thirst for power, and not least a media that's lost its way.
@indrajitg4 күн бұрын
Absolutely amazing series! ABC should make a separate playlist just for the America's Last Election series. Till then, here is the list of all parts of the series: Part 1: The Big Lie kzbin.info/www/bejne/fYCkaIGujtuMgck Part 2: The fake elector plot kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4DYamdpi82Di68&t Part 3: Trump’s plan to reject results kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKvLeZqOibZpobs Part 4: Will Trump pardon January 6 rioters? kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJusdXaKe5etbs0 Part 5: The one thing Trump demands of his new cabinet kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJiaiaeJlp6keaM Part 6: How censoring Trump fuelled his comeback kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5_dmpx-YtGVipo
@BigBoiiLeem5 күн бұрын
Thanks for this series. Aunty has been the MVP in terms of coverage of this election, just really fantastic stuff.
@MrQWUK4 күн бұрын
Thanks, this has been a brilliant series, I've watched as the episodes have been released. I love the style and production quality, as well as the balanced and objective analysis. I can't wait for more from Matt and team.
@thethirdman2254 күн бұрын
The only bit you left out was Trump’s ability to capture headlines. That woman can complain all she likes about a ‘biased media’ but Trump got all the headlines in a way the Harris campaign could not. In short, it doesn’t matter what you say as long as they spell your name right. When he was not in the headlines, his popularity dwindled but as soon as he announced his intention to run again he was news again. And the more outrageous he became, the more insatiable became the public’s appetite for stuff about him. Sunlight did not disinfect.
@skinny364014 күн бұрын
this is genuinely good journalism
@duaneb215 күн бұрын
You act like all Americans wanted this, when 50% of us voted against it!
@Squashed8Ball5 күн бұрын
150 odd million votes in total between Trump and Harris .. not even half of your 330 plus million population .. half your population is apathetic about the future of their country
@benbaker29655 күн бұрын
Not what I wanted. God help us
@nigeltaylor725 күн бұрын
"They were not deceived, this is what they wanted." The country with nukes. The country whose nuke subs we're paying to pilot for them. Yep.
@johannavanklaveren664 күн бұрын
And as Canaris demonstrated in naval intelligence, traitors to fascism sit at the very top.
@sinbadasia4 күн бұрын
based on the supposition that the proletariat have a reasonable grasp of economy and civics.
@BradleyCloete4 күн бұрын
"Falsehood flies, and the truth comes limping after it" - Jonathan Swift
@tartarus2165 күн бұрын
Thanks for this series.
@TheAbrantino5 күн бұрын
Yes it's great I'm Portuguese and never miss one
@atomar4 күн бұрын
Thank you so much Matt, for this awesome 6 part series!
@josephj65214 күн бұрын
Great series. Thanks. 👍 I read comments elsewhere that some Trump fans were saying Democracy is bad. I kid you not! They were comparing Ancient Rome, which was an oligarchy republic where only people of a certain caste could rule & be in the senate. So bizarre. Maybe they need to travel to North Korea.
@JoelReid4 күн бұрын
a great end line there: "These people were not deceived, this is what they wanted."
@leemiller87304 күн бұрын
I don't understand what their idea of justice is. What exactly are they hoping for that will benefit them and punish their oppressors. Thank you for a great insightful program.
@TomWhi4 күн бұрын
Really good series, well presented and well produced. I’m hoping to see more of your coverage in the future!
@maxdakota1114 күн бұрын
Imagine this: A foreign network that does a better job at reporting news than our domestic broadcasters. Ah, that would be the ABC (Australian Broadcasting Corporation). They do great work, and I rely on that foreign perspective, along with other foreign outlets, to receive balanced news reporting. It gives me a better perspective as to what's going on in other places on the planet.
@Kwauhn.4 күн бұрын
You guys are right on the money about censorship. My comments on this very video are being removed for citing Trump's racist rhetoric, even given ample context. Trump and Bannon being deplatformed was, indeed, _bad_ for freedom of speech and accessibility of information.
@SweetDreams-wt7vo4 күн бұрын
Simply, superb series. Thank you.
@stevenwells994 күн бұрын
Congratulations Matt on a remarkable series. The quality of journalism is outstanding. Well done on such an incredible job. I really enjoyed this episode. More please! Especially local politics. 😊
@nevinphil4 күн бұрын
Have loved this mini series. Thanks to Matt and everyone involved.
@Nutz0004 күн бұрын
This was an amazing series. Thank you to the ABC and everyone who worked on it. Hope to see more in the future! ❤
@unknown5150variable4 күн бұрын
The fact that everyone calls them fans and not supporters should have been everyones clue from the beginning.
@MortalBane5 күн бұрын
Fantastic series I’ll be watching all of your upcoming and past episodes of if you’re listening
@MrWansty4 күн бұрын
outstanding level of journalism ,well done to all concerned respect from the U.K keep it coming
@diegoinjapan4 күн бұрын
Thanks for putting this together. It was so great and insightful! Cheers!!!
@indoman88874 күн бұрын
A third of eligible voters didn’t vote in the 2024 presidential election and despite for Trump’s win in the popular vote, in reality he only represents about a third of the eligible voter population. Not much of a mandate, but that is also irrelevant.
@bashmcbash68045 күн бұрын
Very powerful last line.
@sarcasmo575 күн бұрын
Powerful last words as we head into at least 4 years of chaos, probably many more.
@TheAbrantino5 күн бұрын
America being America like always ever
@hsquared87745 күн бұрын
Let’s hope it’s ‘ Only in America’. We don’t want this divisiveness in Australia 🇦🇺
@mknights335 күн бұрын
Aus is 5-10 years behind culture. We follow the US, mellow it a little and mix it into our laconic version. But it's certainly coming for our isolated island.
@Squashed8Ball5 күн бұрын
@@mknights33 plenty of right wing nonsense flying around the place here already .. woke and DEI slurs being vomited in their echo chambers
@TheAbrantino4 күн бұрын
@hsquared8774 to be fair Australia doesn't accept lots of people from outside,not a lot of diversity there... So it's easier not to get divided and be comfortable with the problems in the world... Just a thought
@mitchellmackinnon60195 күн бұрын
I appreciate the solid research and deep dive in this series. Bring back 'if you're listening' now and tell us everything will be okay 😂😂
@brett22bt5 күн бұрын
It's not going to be Okay for a long time. That guy's in for life, and by the time he's finally gone, he will have successfully transformed the US into a one-party state.
@Hillary4SupremeRuler5 күн бұрын
@@brett22btthe supreme Court already consolidated the one party rule when they refused to enforce the will of the people in the voting rights act and said it's ok for red states to enact racial gerrymandering. Dems flipped a bunch of house seats but Republicans on North Carolina redrew the maps along racial lines and illegally awarded themselves 3 free guaranteed white gop districts. Same in Alabama, South Carolina and Florida and others I cannot think of at the moment. The SCOTUS basically rigged the house election to all but ensure GOP rule. Thats not even counting all of the voter suppression, illegal mass purges of voter rolls, and states like Texas and Florida not allowing DOJ civil rights division representatives to monitor elections like they do every year. Also thousands of people had ballots thrown out in the mail or didnt even receive them until after election day along with a week's worth of mail that had been held back for a week or more. That was purposely done by Trumps USPS fixer Louis DeJoy. Then Musk had illegal lotteries and fraudulent voter registration websites and was human trafficking black laborers from the south into michigan and Pennsylvania tricking them into working for Trump and flying them across the country and then informing them once they got to the destination that they would be working for the Trump campaign and if they didn't hit a ridiculously high number of targets, that they would be stuck and stranded in other states and would not be paid or have their lodging or travel back home paid for. And sleepy Joe did nothing about all of this.
@kyperactive4 күн бұрын
@@brett22btThis is the type of pessimism that causes division. Have a little faith man, you are fearing an imaginary enemy.
@brett22bt4 күн бұрын
@@kyperactive Or could it be that the fear of an imaginary enemy created by Dictator Don is what motivated so many people to vote for him?
@mikestanmore26145 күн бұрын
Alex Jones has just reached the "Find Out" part of his saga.
@uromvictor4 күн бұрын
You still have no idea. 😂😂😂. He is a phenom. He will be back and better.
@Hochspitz4 күн бұрын
As I was listening about 40 minutes ago, I was reading the comments and there was an interesting thread to which I left a reply, one of many and I also left a comment. I have just refreshed and was amazed to see so many auto deletes, including that thread and my own original comment. Anyway, this was a top notch series!
@3minutesofglory7004 күн бұрын
Left leaning media likes delete things they dont like…which involves ideas that relates to experience over things things that dont correlate to a narrative
@bernadetteP99995 күн бұрын
This has been an exceptionally well done series
@joebullwinkle50995 күн бұрын
Great Series on how Trump made it back to the Presidency! As you say, America has voted for this guy a 2nd time with full knowledge of what he is, including Latino's who are going to bear the brunt of deportation efforts, in what ever form they take! So, let them all eat cake!
@Merc3994 күн бұрын
@@joebullwinkle5099 do you even understand that reference? Marie Antoinette and the let them eat cake quote do you even really know where that came from? Its a reference to the upper class gutting out the lower classes while engaging in a level of indulgence that lacks self awareness... The current moment is one of populist uprising... Which is what came after she was attributed the quote (the French revolution)... You're using it backwards in a way that makes no sense and makes you look like Marie Antoinette lol
@kyperactive4 күн бұрын
This is a bad statement. Let them eat cake is utilized when someone in power decides to not take in the severity of the issue. People know full and well what they signed up for. Hardly a case of not taking it seriously.
@michaelwallace42984 күн бұрын
Absolutely first class series of reports. Lucid, clear, focussed - well researched, unbiased, actual reporting. A rare thing, sadly.
@susansmiles26304 күн бұрын
Thank you so much. I only wish that the US media was a smidgen as. good and intelligent as you provide. What the hell are we going to do? The Vanals Got the Handles!
@USMC-Goforth4 күн бұрын
The democrat party is dying out and unpopular to those of us in our 20s.
@topologyrob4 күн бұрын
To your great shame
@USMC-Goforth4 күн бұрын
@topologyrob it would be different, were they to adjust to modern times and fight for what we actually want. Sometimes, I wonder if they are stuck in the 1960s.
@OilBaron1005 күн бұрын
Great work Matt.
@laurencapwell1805 күн бұрын
Loved this series. What the Trump voters don't realize is that while our government is far from perfect, it could be A LOT worse. And that's the most likely outcome with Trump. A lot worse.
@kyperactive4 күн бұрын
Are we sure about that? I feel America has lived through that "worse", something has to give.
@uromvictor4 күн бұрын
Keep making excuses 😂😂😂. Nice cope.
@jackiechild97405 күн бұрын
👏 this series was so well done! It's nice that there is real journalism still happening in the world! 🙏❤️
@markmulholland67964 күн бұрын
Unfortunately I am forced to use Rumble because for some reason it streams the SLS (Street Skateboarding League). The ads are literal scams and the most common emoji in the chat is trumps face. Why the premier skateboarding league is on this boggles the mind.
@missendlessly934 күн бұрын
Love “If You’re Listening” and would love a video on the “sunlight is the best disinfectant” theme!
@CamMcGinn19814 күн бұрын
Brilliant series, Matt. Thanks for the interesting content
@krons66954 күн бұрын
The best counter to bad information is good information. The idea, false or not, is that they censored because they didn't have better information.
@aprildawnsunshine43264 күн бұрын
Saying they were not deceived is a little disingenuous given the whole tariff issue imo
@eocs52855 күн бұрын
I had goosebumps at the end. Kudos Matt Bevan and your team. I thoroughly enjoyed this series.
@drjones17365 күн бұрын
Keep going strong ABC…..the world is watching and it needs help…
@mammaherbst97035 күн бұрын
If you have to choose between the devil and the deep blue see, you’re going to make the wrong choice.
@guystevens54295 күн бұрын
Great series, however I fail to accept that the vast majority of Americans wanted Trump back in. The vast majority of the registered voters did, but considering they don't have mandatory voting, who knows.
@gregorywallis555 күн бұрын
Another great show Matt. Well done.
@debrad.47354 күн бұрын
All bullys are victims ! The world knows this!
@AHDONIxTOxSHELIONI4 күн бұрын
No mugs were harmed in the making of this video 😅
@intrusivethought5 күн бұрын
Amazing series.Kudos!
@3minutesofglory7004 күн бұрын
When it says public broadcast service, it means >50% govt owned
@dannii_L5 күн бұрын
PLEASE do that episode you mention @3:04
@aa.88235 күн бұрын
So, are social media companies private and have their own algorithms and editorial polices driven by involvement? Or are they public squares that should be regulated?
@user-sr1kc6jj2b-p1q5 күн бұрын
It’s a Carnivale where the main attractions are playing an inverted version of themselves. The thing about a carnivale is that most people get tired of the craziness which is why it only lasts for one day a year, but some prefer it to normal life. And IMHO that is why so many are leaving Xitter and moving to BlueSky. One day or week a year of disruptive craziness a is enough.
@Kitgilmore5 күн бұрын
superb series!
@bibibombibi5 күн бұрын
Good job to everyone that worked on this series. It’s devastating to see what has become of America and the world. When will mankind ever learn.
@goblin33594 күн бұрын
"These people were not deceived. This is what they wanted." Gunna have to go stare at a wall for a bit. Let that one process...
@chrisweldon-ho5xr4 күн бұрын
Brilliant as always but so depressing
@happymediumwill74134 күн бұрын
“These people were not deceived. This is what they wanted.” Holy $hit. Makes 100% sense to me
@marcyates43235 күн бұрын
And out of their population , 180,000,000 did not vote
@gustaaf18925 күн бұрын
Not the entire population can vote of course. Voter suppression also contributed to the lower Dem vote.
@uromvictor4 күн бұрын
@@gustaaf1892 please stop with that conspiracies. Voter suppression 😂😂😂. U didn't have mail in vote to cheat. 😂😂😂. That's what happen.
@Karosse5 күн бұрын
So incredible. One of the absolute best journo's modern Australia has. And from my home town of Newcastle! /o/ Thank you Matt.
@maxheadrom30884 күн бұрын
There's another problem: censorship is totally contrary to a fundamental idea in American culture - freedom of expression.
@maxheadrom30884 күн бұрын
And it was not a perception that Trump was victim of censorship - he was indeed victim of censorship. NOTE: I'm not American - I'm Brazilian. I have always voted for what in the US would be considered "extreme left" but we here call "social democracy" or center left leaning towards the center and not the left.
@legandery5 күн бұрын
Mark Zuckaberg kicked me out. I lost 30 pages. He doesn't believe in freedom of speech.
@seanmartinflix3 күн бұрын
The republican party let him run. Don't for get it. I get to say I think you are on the right track. I know people that where delegates for Bernie and voted trump. He is there false hope. Y they don't see it? "I do not know"... He want's so meany things that are bad for almost every one.
@oldskills5 күн бұрын
Thank you for this series, it was frightening and fascinating all at once. Fingers crossed that the USA survives another trump term.
@tempura.j5 күн бұрын
Fantastic series. Thank you @ABCNewsIndepth
@Richy.Boi.5 күн бұрын
Such a wonderful series. If only the Maga yanks could see it on Fox News.
@LightningAussie5 күн бұрын
Great Journalism, fair and balanced and somewhat scary.
@Leel3ones894 күн бұрын
Wonderful series. I'll be subscribing and looking forward to sain reporting. Even if it comes from so far from home.
@andrewcoulthard-clark4 күн бұрын
This has been an outstanding series, that I've thoroughly enjoyed from its outset - I would love to see a thought-experiment running through all the possible likely outcomes for the next four years...
@DelphicSpider5 күн бұрын
Love the show Matt, I hope there's more to come.
@ABCNewsIndepth4 күн бұрын
Sure is! Four more episodes to come this year, then back in 2025
@ShirleyYAJOKIN4 күн бұрын
ABC youtube... Comments are turned off. Comment sections that are open are heavily censored. "Sunlight is the best disinfectant."
@topologyrob4 күн бұрын
Incumbent governments globally have struggled in the face of the pandemic-triggered inflation, not just in the USA.
@loosegoose24665 күн бұрын
America has fallen
@stevebryan24464 күн бұрын
I kept telling people censorship was always wrong. The idiots just laughed.
@sather584 күн бұрын
Amazing work, hopefully you can provide equally researched coverage of the Australian election in 2025.
@Michelle-bn1fu5 күн бұрын
Social media is a cesspool and shoukd be closed across the board for the good of all people.
@evamurray25645 күн бұрын
I agree. This is why I do not use social media. But to attempt to ban social media is just as insidious as social media.
@exF3-865 күн бұрын
@@evamurray2564 You're on social media right now.
@nateduggan31465 күн бұрын
Free speech absolutist here.. Stopping people from speaking and voicing their opinion, is the stupidest thing ever.. I'd rather let them speak so i can make my own decisions thanks, don't need government or some goober telling me what i can and can't believe. You shoukd always be careful, about banning and stopping ones speech, it's a very slippery slope, they'll eventually come for your speech.
@PyroManZII4 күн бұрын
But it just raises the obvious question doesn't it? What happens when someone uses their free speech to call for violence? I mean the free speech absolutist could say that they never committed a crime as they simply used their free voice, nothing more. But if I was a gang leader and my only crime was to use my voice to order my members to commit murders surely a court of law would deem me guilty right? Surely a court of law would determine that I didn't have the right to post my request for hitmen in the local newspaper? So where is the line? When do you stop saying "oh yeah don't mind racist Bob there who is spreading deranged theories about deep states, we can determine the truth for ourselves" and start saying "oh wait, Bob just asked his supporters to murder people"?
@jvdos5 күн бұрын
Anyone else remember those Rumble adds with the “KZbin” costume and the “Rumble” guy that made it look like he was the normal one while KZbin censored a bunch of stuff on the table? I remember seeing those and having no idea that it was the right and conspiracy platform for a couple years.