Did Breitling Copy Rolex? | Watchfinder & Co.

Is the new Breitling Superocean Automatic just a Rolex copy? Watch to find out!
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[@charles_the_elder]

I really don't see much copying of a Rolex. It's a fairly unique design.

[@almac9203]

it does look like a Rolex with some Tudor. It is handsome but there is nothing original about the design.

[@clo2715]

It reminds me of the CITIZEN PROMASTER 200M GMT Diver BJ7111-86L

[@a3marketing991]

Agreed

[@Domowoi2]

That's just for clicks

[@JamesAlexander14]

@@almac9203 Absolutely. I couldn’t see any similarity between the two.

[@artsohc]

My issue with the price is that it’s still higher than an Omega SMP which has an infinitely better movement.

[@vincej3573]

Movement here is seriously disappointing

[@jasonhall10]

I can’t agree more. I loved the old version and feel like they’ve made it worse for more money. No reason to buy this over an SMP.

[@ahmed-A.112]

a tudor is nicer

[@jasonhall10]

@@ahmed-A.112 Totally! You can get a BB GMT with a more complicated movement and longer power reserve for the same price.

[@Bredes1]

@@jasonhall10 actually a thousand dollar less

[@frankpentangeli7945]

The Navitimer is one of the most iconic watches ever made. It's right up there with the Submariner and the Speedmaster in terms of timeless designs. I only know a little about the Navitimer's complicated functions, but frankly I don't really care. What I care about is how it looks and how well it's made. And the classic Navitimer is absolutely beautiful!

[@Reladan187]

I have to agree. Looked waaaay too much for me at first. But it really grows in. I like this new line aswell

[@chrishammer5925]

It was the first flight "calculator" I believe... really cool function, not just to look complicated. The watch is an icon. The movement, is actually the most accurate in my collection to include rolex, omega, glashutte, etc Within 1/sec per day. I love it

[@BlackWipeout]

I agree 200% I nice video about this watch --> kzbin.info/www/bejne/eoG9Zqqlf9N4jpo

[@rosschops9509]

It’s nice to know it’s loved somewhere because it doesn’t chuff my bits at all. Horses for courses.🤷‍♀️

[@chrishammer5925]

I feel like it's a "fad" now to just hate on Breitling. lol There are some real reasons as to why in the recent past, yes. But, I do feel like it's almost popular to hate on Breitling now. This watch looks like a dive watch, not a Rolex copy

[@watcheswithabdullah]

A Seiko 5's basic automatic movement is also 'fine'. But at the price Breitling's asking, I think the people would want a little more than just 'fine' 😂Great discussion as always btw!

[@reudigerrudiger6452]

Thats right, if i spend more than 2k on a watch i want a inhousemovement.

[@Jeepsteve1982]

It technically is in house and it's COSC

[@PONOVO1000]

@@reudigerrudiger6452and what benefit do you have with in house movement? 😂

[@petrokersta5293]

Any dive watch that is not a supercompressor case will have a rotating bezel. Rolex Submariner is an icon no doubt. Blancpain Fifty Fantoms and Zodiac Sea Wolf were amongst the first dive watches introduced along with the Submariner in 1953. Yet no one would compare modern divers to those.

[@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess]

50 fathoms was earlier than the submariner. It came first

[@vintageswiss9096]

$5,000 for this ETA Breitling, when you can get a Tudor with an in-house movement for half the price. Breitling is taking the piss…

[@Drsavation]

in such way, breitling DID copy rolex, as in, taking the piss

[@_DioBrando_]

Spot on. Breitling needs a reality check with this. I feel like people would rather just spend a bit more to buy an Omega or save their money and buy a Tudor. People on a budget will look a little deeper at the specs and hate the ETA movement and people who have money to burn will just buy a Rolex or other hype brand. Extremely confusing decisions with this watch.

[@DavidDatura]

I like the look of these a lot. The ETA movement with only 38 hours power-reserve puts me off them somewhat though.

[@ryangallagher7439]

If the power reserve is putting you off then you don't really Like it.

[@DavidDatura]

@@ryangallagher7439 says you 😒

[@almac9203]

​@@DavidDatura they need a powermatic 80 movement.

[@eyeheartsushi2212]

But as a three-hander the 38hr power reserve makes it tolerable.

[@OceanCCC]

the 38h 2824 actually is better than the 80’s

[@realnicesuit]

I read some bad reviews about them but when I saw it in person I was hooked immediately. It's beautiful and eye catching in person. I bought a 44mm Turquoise face on a bracelet and bought my wife a white face 36mm on a bracelet. We are in love. Great piece. The bracelet extension was a major thing for me. It's so nice and needed. Saves you from running to get links taken in and out. Bracelet is comfortable once you size it correctly. Lum is super bright. I would suggest that anyone whose interested go and see them in person instead of listening to bias reviews on Social Media and on KZbin. This goes for any brand. Nice one Breitling!

[@DeanBaco]

I tried some out today, they do look great on the wrist! I wasn't convinced by the pictures and early reviews but in reality I really like it. It's quite a step away from the outgoing model (which I like too, more of a toolwatch vibe on that one). I don't really go with the Rolex comparison, seeing that it's based on an earlier model. Great summer watch, so I got one (blue/black one on the blue rubber strap, which is awesome, by the way) and I'm getting the bracelet after the summer to switch things up. Having said that, I miss my 'old' (outgoing) SuperOcean 44, I may still get one while I can, to be honest

[@zhicaofang2354]

Two thoughts: -Despite some similarities, the new Superocean is still distinguishable enough from the Rolex Sea Dweller, especially given their more colorful dial options as well as color contrast between the main dial, the inner bezel and the outer rotatory bezel. -Just can't convince myself to pay more than $4,000 retail for this watch. I'd either spend a bid less to get a Tudor Black Bay, or spend roughly the same amount to get the Omega Seamaster 300m. The Superocean just doesn't pack enough aesthetics/history/function to convince me to give up on similar products from two more recognizable brands.

[@Reladan187]

Agreed. There are similarities, but it’s not like I went ”ouch that’s a copy”. And since this is a homage for their own design, I don’t think this is a copy. And I have to agree on the price tag. Should be lower. They could’ve taken the route to a more affordable Breitling with this one, since it has an eta inside

[@donaldneo4317]

Well you will be paying below 4K after 15 ~ 20% discount which should be no problem getting from the AD.

[@insearchoftheperfectwatch934]

BEFORE Rolex, BEFORE Patek, Doxa had dive watches with a turquoise dial much earlier. In keeping with orange dials being the "Professional" and black dials being "Sharkhunter" their turquoise is the "Aquamarine."

[@lainwhatsap4937]

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[@ErikL727]

Pre-Owned Tudor diver: 3k Pre-Owned SMP or Planet Ocean: 4k This Confused Breitling: 5k+ Superocean Heritage remains the best Breitling diver. The rest all fall short on design & spec choices.

[@eyeheartsushi2212]

Agreed. The more I think about which Breitling I’d get, the more convinced I am that it should be the Superocean Heritage or (for more money) a Navitimer (which of course is not a diver).

[@ErikL727]

@@eyeheartsushi2212 I have, and love, a Navitimer 41mm with the 7750 movement. It's amazing and quite affordable, comparatively speaking.

[@yooseemotoringchannel3357]

They need to fire all their consumer research department. They really think 46mm is going to be a bigger seller than 40mm? How can they be so out of touch?

[@eyeheartsushi2212]

It’s baffling they chose 46 over 40 or 39mm.

[@jodysilvia2]

I'm not a fan of the new dial but the new case and clasps are really nice.

[@StephenMorganCanada]

Lovely looking watches but for price, Omega 300M all day.

[@mikemush9741]

"42 it is" is exactly what I thought until I saw them in person yesterday. They wear small. I normally never go above 42, but would definitely not get the 42 in this range. Way too small. I would absolutely get the 44. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I would also strongly consider the 46. Amzaingly it felt great on the wrist! Definitely check them out in person before deciding on the size.

[@d.jacobush.7389]

There is no model 37-41 mm, but that is the sweetspot for most people. Does Breitling do this on purpose to sell as little watches as possible?

[@Not-a-bot222]

Yes, basically just out of touch

[@raredanceclassics]

Go try one, the 42mm feels a lot smaller, and looks it because of the clever use of colors and the size of the dial. I have very skinny wrists and even the 44mm didn't seem obscene on my wrist when I put one on the other day. I've tried smaller watches that feel a whole lot bigger than these do.

[@MERKAMGCLK]

I have always been luke warm on Breitling.....until now! I really like these very much!!!!

[@call1a1rich]

every diver has to look similar in some way. it’s what comes with the watch. this isn’t about rolex at all. cause you have to say that every diver copies the fifty fathoms…

[@rava2107]

I've got to be honest the last watch I thought of was a Rolex when I looked at this Breitling watch, I personally think that it is pretty unique!

[@NW-lj6oo]

You guys are very generous and the look back into Breitling’s dive watches is very helpful. The chapter ring however, should have stayed in the past and I cannot think of another OEM with a similar configuration. There are some Seiko cues with the SLA023 type bezel and SRPD like dial, but I suppose there is very little originality left in the luxury watch market.

[@lainwhatsap4937]

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[@nickstokes7178]

For 4,500 dollars they're competing with a Zenith Chronomaster on the secondary market, their competing with Omega, Tudor... etc, etc... i just cant justify the price V.S. the movement V.S. the market. That said, i like the Bronze/Green.

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[@Guitarorpheo]

Oofff expensive for an eta based watch. An oris is half the price, with an in-house movement.

[@jlg395]

The Slow Motion looks amazing. They should have stuck with that.

[@adbraham]

The unnecessary extra concentric chapter ring; the shiny bezel; the short hands that don’t make it out far enough toward the bezel, the unnecessary combination of numerals and indices . . . YUK! This is what happens when professional “design” teams, totally divorced from end user requirements get involved! Good grief! Whatever happened the “form follows function”? On the plus side the clasp is a real improvement.

[@SinnMaster]

the end user requirement is flexing on the poors, don't kid yourself watches are just jewelry

[@antonioau_gb89]

38 hours power reserve in 2022 said it all for this watch beautiful watch though

[@frankpentangeli7945]

This SuperOcean automatic really looks nothing like a Rolex. But however you feel about it being a bit of a ripoff has no real impact in my view. I only wish I could like it more. In fact I don't like it much at all. I MUCH prefer the models Breitling released last year and earlier this year: the Premier, Top Time and Chronomat lineups.

[@eyeheartsushi2212]

Yes. Last year’s lineup was very good.

[@maximilianmohre1886]

The old one had a small seconds display, so you could always tell if it was running. I think there are to many compromises with this breitling: lugs look to short/small to make the big diameters wearable and the hour hand would look fine on a chronograph's minute hand but looks off as a nornal minute indicator.

[@sideshowbob32]

I feel the price needs to closer to TAG Heuer, rather than Omega. Not sure why somebody would buy the Superocean when the Superocean Heritage is the same price but has in house movement. Either way I think an SMP300 is a much better purchase which is what I went for. It seems the specs have been downgraded as well, the previous 44mm was water resistant to 3300ft, the new one only 1000ft... (not that it matters for a desk diver) Still only 38 hrs power reserve as well hmmmm..... I really want Breitling to succeed but this watch is no from me.

[@lainwhatsap4937]

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[@rosschops9509]

Strongly agree up until you made me visualise the bloody valve on the smp.🤦‍♀️

[@sideshowbob32]

@@rosschops9509 The valve gives the watch character!

[@rosschops9509]

@@sideshowbob32 The big geezer from The Goonies has character - I wouldn’t wear him on my wrist either.🙄

[@sideshowbob32]

@@rosschops9509 Each to their own, I don't think it would be an SMP without the valve, I'm a fan

[@ikirikchi]

Unlike its historical predecessor this Superocean has very busy (or even clumsy) dial for no practical reason. Why making it resembling the Superocean Slow-motion if the Slow-motion function is not there?

[@Davidlongstride]

I like the black and white model. As soon as I saw it the Zodiac super seawolf appeared in my mind. I definitely wouldn't purchase this brand from an AD at that price though.

[@cubex68]

I love the Breitling ETA based movements, never had issues with it. I wish it was priced more towards BB58 with 44, 42, 40 and 36mm variant and NO it doesn’t look like a Rolex, imho.

[@lainwhatsap4937]

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[@donaldneo4317]

The 42 wears like a 40 when I tried it on side by side with my GMTc, the dial design makes it look smaller and the short lug to lug combine with the "thiness" makes it wear smaller.

[@powerplay3573]

There’s not a lot of love out there for this which is a shame, I like it. I find it pleasing on the eye, a solid everyday wear. I’ll be picking one up at some point.

[@jordifernandezescobar3889]

Not at all, in fact looks much nicer than the Rolex. Nice watch with many options and no terrible waiting lists

[@lainwhatsap4937]

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[@ghst822]

now they just have to artificially limit supply

[@ashleychambers7602]

I’ve just bought the black 46mm with the bracelet & the rubber strap (couldn’t decide) and it looks beautiful in wrist and like most people say it looks far better in the flesh

[@gelmibson883]

The old SO line had the potential to be a classic. It looked classic and fresh at the same. Hat cool technicals. Why they don't put this homage into the heritage line? This watch has a cheapend bezel, no screws and it has play. The bezel is a fingerprint magnet. It is 700m less water resistant to the 44mm, 200 to the 42. The caseback is so cheap unbelievable. The saved money on the date. As well they didn't used the safety ring around the glas to protect is from hits. Still u pay 500€ plus. The new clasp is way to thicc and doesn't match the vintage style and don't get me started on that cheap lasered logo on it.

[@steve_troy]

Exactly what I was thinking. The old model was a great piece for a relatively affordable price. Nice styling, heaps of colours, strap options and sizing. This seems like it should have been a limited release in the heritage line.

[@jameswilkes3186]

I was a big fan of Breitling early 2000's but they got away from those designs and went sideways for me. Colt 40.5 was a great daily wearer, tough and stylish. Sad to see this now.

[@DrDarkStar68]

My wife thinks it looks like an Explorer. In other words, it looks nothing like an Explorer ! Seriously it looks fantastic on the wrist and makes its own statement.

[@billleonard6662]

So I own two Breitling watches and absolutely love the brand. Getting ready to grab the new navitimer as I think I the new look is a lot less busy and think the b01 is a great movement. One of my breitlings is an avenger 45 (2019) and it is an extremely strong watch. Looks great and very durable watch. As for the super ocean I think they hit it out of the park with this new look. The only similarity between the new super ocean and the submariner is the deep see model. Not with the standard sub. I will also say that the arrogance of Rolex and how they sell watches always steers me away. Don’t know if I will ever purchase a Rolex due to these practices. Great job Georges Kern! Keep it up as I’m a brand loyalist!

[@SIZZO76]

I agree

[@giacintoboccia9386]

That idea of the slow chronograph is wonderful! I find it so interesting

[@thegorn]

I like the all white for women, and I like the bronze/green for men. The large white inner rehaut is just too much white for me (as a man). But all white on ladies is quite fetching. The biggest head scratcher is no 39-40mm version. As you say probably the most popular sizing for the bulk of wrists out there.

[@michaelriera6277]

1) Breitling wear smaller, 42 mm sits on wrist closer to 40mm , you have to try them on. 2) 26 jewels, no longer ETA, now Selitta.

[@lainwhatsap4937]

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[@JizzyNinja]

Honestly I wish they just made the watch they took inspiration from, the dive chronograph. The double minutes tracks of this one with the bezel and dial just feel a bit meh to me. There’s a lot of cool potential here but pretty meh imo

[@ValueRedApples]

This would be solid if it was 3k, anything more and the design/value just comes up short

[@eyeheartsushi2212]

Agreed.

[@markbowman7240]

cool watches just a shame about the power reserve 38 hrs is way off today

[@Bennie_Bee6]

An ETA2824 for $5000!!!! I don't care what it says on the dial. Its a lovely looking watch IMO but I just couldn't part with $5k knowing that it uses movement which appears in other decent branded watches (Oris/Tag Heuer) etc, for half the price.

[@Eric_Nielsen]

Can't wait for *journalists* to get one with a non-working movement so we can read what 'a week on the wrist' is like, with of course no mention of weight or thickness.

[@Jack.Napier]

Loved this episode. ✌🏼

[@treyperry9722]

I don't think it looks too much like a challenge at all. But I would only even consider the bronze. BUT if I want a diver that's cheaper than a sub... BB58 and Seamaster are really the only options in my mind. I actually just got my bb58 in about a month or so ago

[@PeteMcConvill]

Man, theres a world record challenger in the most click baity stretch ever.

[@egorkharchenko742]

I really don’t get how market is missing out on the new chronomat. It’s an amazing watch with superb movement. The bracelet quality and design are amazing and feel better then those of omega. It is super comfy on the wrist

[@Blatamie]

Would like to request the Serica 2303 to go along with some of the other micro brand reviews y'all have done recently. Thanks for the great content!

[@WatchesOnWood]

just feels like Breitling had an opportunity to take an oddity in from their past and to revamp it, for the modern era when quirky is more admired these days than outright practicality. But instead it just feels like they've been lazy and not really thought about how to make it better. Topped off with the eta, it just feels like it lacks effort - which is a shame because I like what Breitling have been doing lately.

[@carattentat4944]

The 'BOY GEORGE'S' watch world’s constant feasting on the past, with each regurgitation looking less and less elegant and original, is really unhealthy. Breitling has taken the new Superocean to the abyss of shame, and replaced it with something that looks so cheap and clumsy as well!! And all because of the greedy cannibalising their back catalogues content,and instead of coming up with a REAL dive watch the 21st century demands for !!

[@NitroModelsAndComics]

4-6 k for an ETA 2824? No thank you.

[@jamessymington2466]

Sorry that Deepsea is not an attractive watch whereas the Breitling is quite good looking I suppose. I didn’t like it to begin with but it is growing on me a bit.

[@josephweaver9755]

I think the watch looks nice, but I'm not crazy about the hands. Especially the minute hand.

[@lainwhatsap4937]

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[@robcarrier1969]

Oh the irony of a Geckota advert in the middle of this video.

[@dec1aim_flow432]

The big similarity is really the bezel. The rest you guys push it a bit. Good looking dive watch, luminous pips are square not round, no triangle at 12,… I mean… it’s just the bezel (which does look very similar to rolex)

[@d.jacobush.7389]

Exactly, but these guys are obsessed with Rolex, so they have to compare every watch to it, apparently.

[@call1a1rich]

@@d.jacobush.7389 do you follow the channel? rolex hypers? you are just wrong…

[@diavalus]

@@call1a1rich he is not, they do compare anything to rolex nowadays. And if you followed the channel, you would know they mentioned they do so because just putting something next to rolex will increase the number of views.

[@diavalus]

The bezel is heavily inspired from the old Breitling, so it was not inspired from rolex.

[@eyeheartsushi2212]

@@diavalus Agreed. They clearly brought up Rolex for views.

[@ScottAF68]

Personally I really like it! Great job Breitling!

[@theSUPERmere]

It looks more like Tudor Pelagos. (The rectangle indices)

[@hayios0]

Copied Oris? ... Unsuccessfully.. Thought the heritage was heritage On the Navitimer they removed the one calculator someone could use on a chronograph.

[@ingra888]

That’s a good question, I do see elements of Rolex in it but I guess it can’t be helped! If you were given a paper with a blank watch stencilled on it and we’re asked to design a clear to read basic divers watch face! What do you think the out come would be? Oh the Orange one looks a bit like the Doxa

[@eyeheartsushi2212]

The turquoise also looks like a Doxa.

[@fedomandez]

Missed opportunity: the internal rehaut should rotate

[@leeharding8306]

The case has a Rolex vibe 🤔 this is a miss for me. Speed less and get a Tudor or spend more and get a Omega. I would get the Omega as it isn’t much more money but it’s much more of watch.

[@bowerbirdstyle7661]

I love all the coloured ones, especially the green and gold.

[@kbbarton1]

Nice looking line, great color choices... but that big square on the minute hand is a deal breaker for me.

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[@_DioBrando_]

Why didn't Breitling just reissue the original chronograph?? It's design is so unique! These new superoceans are just a huge miss imo.

[@treyperry9722]

Why not use the movement from the bb58? That movement is crazy accurate, 70 hours, semi durable...

[@danielwarton5343]

The white dial looks like they took their design cue from Christopher Ward’s Sealander

[@gladlawson61]

Love it. I think it is nice to be on a surfer squad ... my liking is blue dial and bronze. Green is posh as u guys sometimes say

[@wristygymnast1384]

Why not the B01?

[@GamerLoon6712]

Can someone verify for me about the calibre movement been use in Avenger and super ocean ? As there are people talking about Sellita movement and ETA movement , this is really confusing . Thanks

[@eyeheartsushi2212]

I know it’s a new release but I never saw the Rolex similarity until this video pointed it out.

[@GMack17]

Nice looking watch. I can’t get over the movement specs though.

[@thehideoutbarandgril]

Hey hey I’m going to watch this video but If I hear any slander about Breitling I’ll come find you two.

[@fastdays_1]

I see no resemblance between the two

[@CaptCanuck4444]

Would like to see a titanium cased version.

[@krasnaludek298]

Zero desire to own any of Rolex’s gawdy jewelry nor support a company that treats consumers like 💩. Breitling is producing classy & clean timepieces - love the new Superocean lineup.

[@timothybrooks1429]

Divers don’t use a dive watch to figure out how much air they have. They check the air pressure gauge. The watch is to time their dive to make sure that they don’t get too much residual nitrogen.

[@GutterLivinStargazer]

I absolutely love the Navitimer Cosmonaute (24 hour dial). I get that it's busy and not for everyone but damn, I love it!

[@pr33tu_]

It's giving invicta

[@brettgosper6003]

if the big square element on the minute hand was half the size, I think they would have nailed it... currently it looks way too big - and overcrowds the dial

[@smiffter97]

Breitling need to start using inhouse movements at this price point as Tudor and Omega are offering far superior watches, even my Hydro Conquest has an inhouse 70hr power reserve movement and that is a third of the price.

[@siblej1]

I like it, but 42 is too big and 36 too small

[@hullabamoo]

I’m a fan of the 57 paradise edition! 😍

[@fakenewsisthenews3542]

These new SO's are really nice looking! I want one!

[@adammich01]

Wish they put something between 36mm & 42mm. They have 3 sizes between 42-46, which seems a bit unnecessary. I feel more people would rather than a 39mm or 40mm vs 46mm...at least I know I would. Maybe I'm wrong and the market for this watch is on the bigger side but i'd love to see a size between 36-42mm

[@MrUpsetGamer]

The case shape looks identical to my Casio duro and I don't know how I feel about that

[@finesse49]

I guess not making a 38-40mm size doesn't matter for an ugly watch.

[@anthonyburee650]

Is Seiko decided to make a Rolex this is what it would!!!

[@andrewbow271]

The Duo Graph is my favorite Breitling

[@chrisallan4591]

I like it, the green on bronze in particular. Pricing is a grand or two too high. As far as being a bit too Rolexy... "A dive watch is a dive watch is a..."

[@simonliao6430]

For that price, I would instead get an Omega Seamaster 300, in-house movement, ceramic bezel, "date function"...

[@stevebolan5727]

Don’t see Rolex here defo more like older Breitling references

[@anthonyjarrad141]

I can get passed the 38 hours of power reserver as it's an Amazing no date! It's abolsutley no issue to wind and adjust and run....

[@jorgenvandeburgt8670]

Why are the hands so short?

[@Amplitudeproblem]

The new Navitimer is fantastic looking but a bit overpriced even with the in-house chrono movement. This new SuperOcean is OK looking but insanely overpriced, especially with the 2824. Even with the new management, Breitling is still resting on their name too much. Tudor gives you more watch but arguably less name. Omega gives you more watch and more name.