Did dangerous tackling techniques start at Storm? | NRL 360 | FOX League

[@canwelook]

Of course it was Melbourne. Cameron Smith objecting? What surprise.

[@jest3167]

Why was there wrestling coaches before Smith debuted then ?

[@TheQovas]

@@jest3167 how arrogant are you? It was to roll players onto their back to slow the play the ball down. Storm mastered it to make the player submit.

[@jest3167]

@@TheQovas I would rather be arrogant then ignorant…..

[@TheQovas]

@@jest3167 do u live here my guy? I've just seen your comments everywhere in this comment section you my friend are delusional 😂 🤣

[@jest3167]

@@TheQovas Delusional I’m not living in a fairy land where the storm invented wrestling in a game that already had wrestling coaches there’s a massive difference between inventing something and being the best at it

[@dubbkenobby6542]

Cameron mad because brandy is spot on 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@gengarpokemon7731]

Brandy is right, storm brought in all these tackling techniques to the game and they were getting away with it, they slowed down the ruck, slow down advantages and get their defensive line set and they got away with it so every other club began adopting it.

[@loxxovvoxxol2896]

Brandy said the Storm introduced the hip drop tackle....largely due to the fact that he's an actual moron. The slowing of the ruck began with the Roosters, despite what the Sydney media tells you. Go back and watch Stickys Roosters and tell me I'm wrong. Then I guess they had since conceded and hired former Storm players as members of their coaching staff - not the dumbest idea to be fair....maybe the bog average teams should be doing that too.

[@iamyouyouareme9905]

Brandy is saying what everyone has known for years.

[@Tully_23_32]

And saying loudly for years. All supporters from all clubs have been saying it for a very long time but every club supporter in the NRL were jealous of Melbourne. I remember watching Cam Smith at Parra in the back play & he was the dirtiest of the lot but he & his mates were untouchable, it took Cam 300 games to get sin binned for a back chat 🤣

[@garybaltiejus7248]

Since the arl became the NRL EVERYTHING has turned to 💩 including the introduction of the storm/dolphins I say eject the Melbourne f**king storm and the Redcliffe f**king dolphins who do nothing but piss people off and bring back the Bears/Steelers as their original entities and let's get back to the good times

[@nicknackpaddywhack2159]

Off the top of Cam Smiths head he had a free boat and a house and so did all his mates but they weren't cheating the salary cap

[@omnitheus5442]

GI, Slater, Cronk, Smith and Bellamy were all in on it as well as their agents. All of them should have been rubbed out for 2 years due to it. But instead they all doubled down on it.

[@imalwaysright]

Why didn’t you post Kenty defending his mate Ricky 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@kw5732]

100% 🤷‍♂

[@TheBlackguard]

“When was the last time you saw a chicken wing?” Origin game 1 this year. Munster on Cleary. Not exactly making a good argument there Buzz. 🤔

[@Ausbrahdave]

Is Cam Smith serious ? His latest explanation is lol worthy 😂 saying there is 100 years of footy and as if they invented it 🤣

[@tim0895]

There’s plenty of things storm brought in • chicken wing • grapple tackle • crusher (ending players careers) • billy slaters slide tackle • billy slater catching a highball and studding people in the face. • purposely slowing the ruck down • purposely throwing the ball into players at dummy half •cocain and table dancing party’s • salary cap rorting • ref manipulation • never winning back2back premierships List just goes on, feel free to add any of they were missed

[@loxxovvoxxol2896]

You forgot; *Being more successful than whatever team you support.

[@tim0895]

Actually there not more successful. Since the Melbourne storm entered the nrl they and my team the roosters have both won 4 premierships and you don’t win if you get caught blatantly cheating so No one counts there stripped titles. And considering the roosters beat the pansy’s with 12 men in a grand final and have won back2back I’d say it’s more leaning the roosters way.

[@Scooty_Scooty]

@@tim0895 everyone knows the Roosters are protected by the NRL, if they were treated the same as every other club they wouldn't of won those titles. Well they prob still beat the Warriors but the others? No way.

[@tim0895]

Still got to beat the team on the day and that my friend they did all by themselves. You only have to look at 2019 GF everyone’s talking about poor raiders got robbed, roosters were the ones who had there players legs snapped from under him after a kick and no penalty was going to be given and the only reason they got the ball back was because of the rules when it hit there trainer. the 6 again was not a 6 again, again the referee wanted to give the opposing team another advantage with another set of six only to be corrected by the touchie.

[@tim0895]

For a storm fan to say another team is protected by the NRL is hilarious.

[@martinpye549]

Brandy is bang on right. He seems to have an ongoing issue with the Storm, but he's right.

[@ronanrogers4127]

Brandy doesn’t need to have been to a Storm training session because he’s seen them play every weekend…what a fool Smith is.

[@aximusroh6453]

Exactly mate! (I came to find this comment 👍)

[@michaelvrckoff6966]

Yeah for sure they started all the dangerous tackles . They've been doing it so long Cameron Smith thinks it's normal

[@flyflower1619]

Greg's safe from defamation, no way Storm will challenge in court, that's how you know he is right besides 'thats just common knowledge'.

[@thesquire6352]

what do you expect from a club of cheaters, always happy to brake an arm or leg to slow the ball down.

[@killswitchcommentary981]

Yeah all 16 teams are doing it

[@someoneunseen5168]

@@killswitchcommentary981 as bad as melbourne? Haha be real.

[@killswitchcommentary981]

@@someoneunseen5168 yes so many teams do it just look at the Broncos or the Roosters and The Panthers

[@my2656]

I bleed Maroon but in this instance, I stand 100% behind Brandy. He nailed it as to what the NRL world truly think of those Storm grubs. They’re the worst thing to happen to the game & Bellamy’s legacy is all about salary cap cheat, the numerous dangerous tackles that he brought into the game. Smithy - stop it mate. Don’t stoop any further. We’ll know about the Storm cheats.

[@jest3167]

Can't blame the Storm when every team has wrestling coaches

[@omnitheus5442]

Cam Smith was one of the biggest grubs to play the game. He performed the chicken wings and rolling pins till the NRL clamped down on them. Still remember the garbage he spouted to the referee when Mckinnon was on the ground. Never apologised. Never thought he should. I hope when people reflect on Smith's legacy they remember the garbage as well as the rest from him particularly when looking at his candidacy for becoming an immortal. Same with Slater (who I doubt makes it now given how much better Teddy is and Churchill was).

[@jest3167]

@@omnitheus5442 Tedesco is nowhere near Slater never will be and C Smith is top 5 dead or alive

[@someoneunseen5168]

@@jest3167 they all wrestle. Only the storm invent the grubby tackles. And thanks to the storm, there are 2 seasons with no "winner".

[@jest3167]

@@someoneunseen5168 Actually I’d Blame the NRL for those 2 seasons as they’re the ones who poorly police the salary cap or punish clubs appropriately for breaking rules Look at the Sharks got done for performance enhancing drugs went on to breach the salary cap 5 out of 6 years before and after but allegedly not during their premiership winning season

[@MERCURYSUNSET]

Is Cameron Smith serious ? His response to Brandy was laughable .The coaching of wrestling may very well have started in the 90's as part of training , but the tactic of adding of wrestling moves to the defence patterns of teams didn't kick off until Melbourne .Not to mention some of the stuff they have done over the years morphed into MMA style moves .

[@cvarikos]

Whoever started them.. just get them out of the game as we don't want to see players sidelined for months. Whether the nrl employs sports medical people to judge 'unnatural' positioning in tackles. These players have played enough to understand what is good and bad positioning of a tackled player so by their actions it can be deemed whether there is intent to hurt an opponent. The other way to confirm what brandy is saying is counting the suspensions of every club related to wrestling holds. Jason Stevens I remember said he got tackled once in a game against the storm and I deadset couldn't breathe. Very scary.

[@beaver4777]

Im 100% with brandy bout time someone said it.

[@ThorOdinson-rh8mq]

It’s brought up a month before finals every year…

[@loxxovvoxxol2896]

It's been said ad nauseum for over a decade....probably closer to two decades. Massive surprise that it's Brandy running his mouth, pushing his Panthers agenda like always...and look, it's almost finals...so time to throw shade at the Storm for no reason at all. Next headline will be; "Storm invent head high tackle"

[@BluntedRazor98]

Lol Kent at the end saying if Storm would be as dominate without the wrestle. Melbourne won in 2020 when the set restart was added to target and eradicate the overused wrestling tactics

[@michaeln537]

The set restart didn’t eradicate the wrestling unfortunately. If the refs gave set restarts for wrestling, every Melbourne storm game would turn into a farce as there would be at least 150 set restarts.

[@boganbob2708]

In a Rugby League players poll an overwhelming 49% of players voted for the Storm as the dirtiest team in the competition.

[@Scooty_Scooty]

So more players combined voted that the Storm weren't the dirtiest is what your saying?

[@DabDabGoose]

@@Scooty_Scooty lmao, it means 15 clubs shared 51% of the vote and 1 club has 49%.

[@tim0895]

@Bogan Bob Speaking facts there Bob. Don’t need to listen to the storm fan boys trying to defend them, listen to the players that have had there’s arms and legs twisted and have been kicked in the head by the grubs when the purple fairy’s are losing

[@boganbob2708]

@@DabDabGoose The scary thing is that they are allowed to vote, drive cars and have kids Frightening stuff.

[@aximusroh6453]

Nuf said!

[@youareawesome5236]

About 15-17 years ago my brother had a friend who was hired by The Storm to teach Brazilian jiu-jitsu to the players. He said he trained them in key locks ( I think he called them ) on shoulders n elbows as well as knee n ankle twists. I don't know MMA but my bro showed me a chimera or kimore n it's a chicken wing tackle. MMA guys apparently break n dislocate shoulders using it.

[@explicitmoviesvideohighlig4831]

Yep you don't know mma

[@explicitmoviesvideohighlig4831]

At 3:28 you see Adam Blair grappling. In MMa it is fine to do that because you have 2 arms to move around & put yourself in a better position but in NRL with ball in one hand and to have another player do that to your other hand, that's just simply a dirty tactic that has been introduced into NRL football. Moves like that should be banned rather than the shoulder charge.

[@youareawesome5236]

@@explicitmoviesvideohighlig4831 that move was what my bro did on me, from the ground, my hand behind me n he used both hands to lever at my shoulder backwards. It hurt like hell. I understood why MMA guys tap out. Agree with you, outlaw that MMA stuff. The shoulder charge is okay though.

[@jest3167]

@@explicitmoviesvideohighlig4831 People get injured broken arms etc from wrestling whereas players have died from head contact from shoulder charges and there would be countless former players who would have brain injuries from head knocks caused by the shoulder charge

[@killswitchcommentary981]

Mate you've heard that story on youtube and now saying that was your brother what a load of BS

[@holyghostpilgrim]

It's true. Didn't stop other clubs from jumping on board though. 2 blokes on that panel are deadset duds. Whiney girls

[@johnpsaila9563]

All this proves is how much other fans and clubs hate Melbournes success.Storm are the most hated club because they continue to have success year after year.

[@ruru.5085]

Wrestlings been in our game way before the storm but Kearney took the idea to the club and the rest is history

[@AyyFuji]

Storm are the biggest crybabies about criticism, if the wrestling and all the techniques aren't out of Melbourne, why were they so efficient at it for years? Why were they the best at the wrestle? Like c'mon, grow a pair and suck it up, as Braith said, they pay no attention to the praise they get for being a powerhouse of the game, and focus on the justified criticism of their play. Always gonna hate that club.

[@jest3167]

None of the worlds current best at any sport invented the game they're playing just because you do it better doesn't mean you invented it

[@etsnation4961]

Watch that grub Asofa hurt as many panthers as he can in retaliation.

[@beaver4777]

Slater throwin his feet first at a potentional try scorer? I was a huge fan of him but when he started doin that i was so filthy.

[@hansoloburger2322]

Matthew ridge

[@Scooty_Scooty]

You were filthy huh, what did you do about it? Nothing I net, what a flog, if you were actually filthy you would of done something about it.

[@Tommyty10]

Also melbourne don’t get charged either way

[@williammcgechie4504]

Paul Kent..what an angry little man, in fact you could say he's a total 'kent' !

[@shanewilson199]

That I like… can I use it? A fair call… he whinges along with the best.

[@williammcgechie4504]

@@shanewilson199 thanks for that, go for gold, knock yourself out ! totally agree !

[@kyleelefantis664]

Sounds a lot like Paul Kent’s response to Craig Bellamy’s response on NRL 360 a while ago on felise kaufusi getting suspended for approx 8 weeks

[@dinandnozi2943]

Matt Tripp didn’t miss a bit😂

[@beaver4777]

Buzz is a goose he said charges!! doesnt mean they didnt do it cmon buzz.

[@rupertgrech7097]

Brandy is completely correct. Thanks Melbourne, NOT.

[@redderssredder72]

on ya Brandy !! Couldn't agree more.

[@ashleyramage6958]

Melbourne Storm 🏆

[@killswitchcommentary981]

Does anyone else get the feeling this show wouldn't exist if it was for Melbourne like come on there are 15 other clubs to talk about

[@justicebroker2271]

Well there is a lot of footage from past games to go off to see where it came from.

[@Gangazz4Life]

Everyone just hates Melbourne because a non rugby state managed to produce the best & most winning nrl team in the game

[@sydneytoker7390]

By paying their players 5 million more an average per year

[@DabDabGoose]

they didn't produce, their entire junior system is in QLD.

[@killswitchcommentary981]

@@sydneytoker7390 like the Parramatta Eels or Cronulla Sharks didn't do that? Or the Bulldogs and now the Roosters? Did Melbourne take drugs to gain an advantage like the Sharks?

[@sydneytoker7390]

@@killswitchcommentary981 at least parra had the courtesy of coming last the years they did that

[@killswitchcommentary981]

@@sydneytoker7390 so did Melbourne but the eels didn't come last in 2016 mate that's the year they got stripped of 12 points and was allowed to play for points that same year when the club was cheating the cap for 3 years

[@jimbomclachlan5892]

Storm has always been the favourite team of the nrl! Trying to steal afl fans to support nrl, it will never work lol

[@thestoicwhinger]

Bingo. They couldn't afford Melbourne not being successful. Imagine them supporting the Titans in the same way

[@RU-Aussie]

Well no one goes to RL games in Sydney

[@davidtaliai996]

I don't like grubby moves like the grapple tackle or the chicken wing that melbourne players did but as far as their wrestle and clinch to slow the PTB and reset their line i don't have a problem with that. There was nothing illegal about it i hate how fans and ex players hate on it.

[@thestoicwhinger]

The NRL looked the other way because they enjoyed the storms quick success. If not for a whistleblower they may have also escaped penalty for cheating the cap! The problem is that the NRL let it slide for too long. Hell even now Melbourne get away with murder in the ruck with few penalties. The Panthers now enjoy the same leeway

[@garthwright8769]

Its fairly well documented the roosters started all this in 2002, they win the gf doing it everyone follows suit, the call was red, two men basically catch a guy up top for no offload, third man comes in down low to guarantee a slow play the ball, the storm just perfected it, adding all sorts of dodgy stuff to hurt people, they win a bunch of gf's doing it, easy fix penalise the third man in, if two men have got someone and momentum has stopped its not necessary for anyone else to get involved, they only trying to slow the play the ball or hurt someone

[@MJBOGAN]

Clear lineage. Bellamy starts at Brisbane under Wayne Bennett. Bennett brings in a bit of wrestling coaching as it applies to football and how it's played. Bellamy goes to Melbourne, makes a career 9f being like Wayne and expands the wrestling training to the point where it begins to change the game. Other clubs got on board too, but I feel like the worst offences were usually Melbourne so they became the poster girls for it all

[@jamesjohnson8316]

Up the storm ⛈. Everyone is just jealous . Go smithy!!

[@deaddropholiday]

The solution is obvious. If these holds are being TAUGHT by the clubs - then the clubs should be the ones penalized. Take points away. They'll vanish in minutes.

[@aximusroh6453]

👏👏👏👏...............👍

[@ThurstonWatt]

good call!

[@sallymay24]

Bluh bluh bluh …same time every year …must be nearly finals time

[@chrissteer3733]

The wrestling is a symptom of a problem which is rule changes.. I would say most teams adopted it at the same time

[@rayfarrugia8601]

Cameron can’t handle the truth

[@mrfryfilmguy]

Is that even up for debate? I thought it was just a known historical fact.

[@beaver4777]

Finally somthin deasent from this show!

[@jimmyharris7563]

their spelling?

[@damonmlinaric9254]

It is a well known fact that pretty much every dangerous tackle was introduced by melbourne while craig bellamy has been there

[@johnpsaila9563]

Just listen to Brandy commentary on Storm games bias as hell.

[@6420BT]

Brandy on the money there

[@garybaltiejus7248]

Yeah I don't remember dangerous tackling being a thing before the storm came on the scene

[@tracimckinstry8741]

Brandy should be careful before he opens his mouth, he should watch some of his own teams matches from the 90's. Heaps of hip drops by pathers of yesteryear plus some nasty and aggressive tackles around players necks by himself plus planting a knee into Big Mel's stomach. He obviously has amnesia or the onset of dementia. Bad tackles, aggressive play has been around for years and years. When you look back, they were just as bad as current Nrl games, if not more, they just weren't penalized as much as today.

[@thestoicwhinger]

That was just MG tho

[@jumpinallans]

Yes. Next!

[@jordanslays_]

They can’t say cam smith is wrong by saying every club does it now when randy and the panel continue to bring up their own evidence of people in every club saying “this is how we did it at Melbourne” Happens in every game now especially those in the top 8 (cowboys, sharks, panthers, storm, bunnies) and the panthers are notorious for it I don’t know how they have avoided this with plot armour

[@Odd1x]

4:34 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@matthewsherwood15]

Before they wanted b.smith suspended for more than 3 weeks for calling ref cheat in heat of the moment. Then next week think 1 week is too harsh for a Ricky Stuart character assasinating a player for when he was 12 years old xD

[@galesly8787]

💯💯💯 they did start all of these tackles 💯💯💯

[@mathewsmith8593]

Look what happen to Alex McKinnon that was against the storm 🤫👀

[@SPSki]

Are you serious. Are you serious , no but Are you serious Brandy

[@menshealthspace5341]

Yes, grub Smith and his Melbourne and QLD mates.

[@damoinau]

Isn't it weird how the Storm is the only club to make a man a quadraplegic? Says it all.

[@anippere]

It's true. For Cam to say, go back to 1990 and you will see that Wrestling coaches where on the team ist of trainers is also true. BUT! They weren't being coached the type of tackling techniques that the Storm wrestling coaches were teaching. Either that or the Storm players got those techniques completely wrong. Either way, there is no doubt that these poor tackling techniques came from Melbourne.

[@pixelpotato4874]

Melbourne Storm Menu: Chicken Wing Hip Drop Leg Chop Elbow drop(N.A.S sauce added) DELIVERY ONLY

[@killswitchcommentary981]

So funny to see people are still crying over something that has happened over 10 years ahahaha not like Parramatta or Cronulla was over the cap or on drugs 🤣

[@thestoicwhinger]

How many have parra or cronulla put in wheelchairs

[@killswitchcommentary981]

@@thestoicwhinger he ducked in that tackle mate go watch it if he didn't duck his head like that he would of got put on his chest.

[@peluskonabe6131]

One has been inducted in Hall Of Fame, the other hasn't. Rightio Brandy... Cry more. Cam Smith the GOAT

[@Bgrande2255]

How many years of footy has there been?? come on saying Melbourne invented this is so dumb the club isn’t even 25 years old Melbourne like to bend the rules as they should cause anyone would they’re talking about tackles that happen maybe once or twice a month like come on who has seen a chicken wing? Can’t name a time I remember seeing one

[@DownUnderThunder]

Yes I'm with brandy they kept doing it because the nrl allowed it and commentators allowed it. Cameron put a player in a clear chicken wing and acted stupid to the ref's by saying what's a chicken wing he knew what he was doing

[@el-elarts4612]

Who is Brabdy?? Never heard of him 🤔🤔

[@batzorigbatbayar9062]

Obviously, not a big fan of NRL...He is a former great of the game.

[@smithy2]

He was a great player, but I can't stand his commentary, it's like he's watching a different game half the time

[@dwyanecamilleri8023]

Alex McKinnon was put in a wheelchair at the hands of which team? Thanks

[@kevdimo6459]

Ok let’s just say it came from Queensland players and coaches. Who took it to Melbourne!

[@brendandredge626]

Melbourne started it all u carnt defend them mate

[@ryanhartin7377]

Yes

[@martingoodef811]

Storm is known for grub tactics in tackles, look at the latest episodes on Nelson doing the elbow drop. Cam you can’t defend it, you will only make yourself lose public respect, you can’t delete previous games available on the internet for everyone to judge. Melbourne Storm us grub tactics to be successful.

[@fanaraveora4562]

Yes definitely bang on!!!

[@magichead79]

Modern techniques, yes.

[@carsyah6836]

easiest question ever. Yes, wrestling bullshit started with Melbourne. end of discussion

[@bondoqbn7318]

Storm have always been a dirty club.

[@fanaraveora4562]

Cameron it not unfair it was the the rite accusations!!!! Everyone who watch NRL League can see it all started from Melbourne Storm who Brough it back again everyone saw it. STOP 🛑 denying it..Cameron🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

[@RU-Aussie]

Glad Melbourne is living in your head

[@xdeadyoungx]

I like MMA, Biffo is even better but MMA will do

[@ayr4455]

20+ years ago a mate (Wrestler) from my GYM asked a Knights assistant if he wanted him to show the players some wrestling techniques etc, that he thought could be beneficial. The assistant declined along the lines of, what use is it. This was before any wrestling etc, etc was in the NRL.

[@timhayes3336]

they should of gotten a coach and team of footy players instead. they haven't been any good since then.

[@gregbuckley1078]

And they recon Cam Smith should be an immortal, never ever.

[@damianclark550]

Obviously yes.

[@gazman2769]

People going to hate success

[@maxpower5573]

I am no fan of the Storm... like not even a little.. and I do think they brought a lot of these tackles in to the game..... With tht being said, I don't understand the fuss? Like why is Smith and the Melbourne Chairman reacting so poorly? Melbourne have been competitors for a long time, and part of how they've gained their advantage is being meticulous in many ways like preparation and bending the rules. It is not the responsibility of a single club to play in the 'spirit of the game' - whatever that means. The rules that were created to counter what tactics the Storm brought in, was made by the NRL and it highlighted the flaws or lack of ruling in the game. It is the job of a club to win as much as possible within the confines of the rules. They bend the rules, other clubs follow suit to stay competitive, NRL counter it via new rules or penalisation. I'm just confused at the vindication of Melbourne and also the reaction from Melbourne as well.. also Buzz is an actual simp.

[@shuzzbot]

Ha, he forgot the old 40-nil GF he sat out for his very own wresting spesh the chickin wing. 40-nil, 40-nil, 40-nil.

[@Aaron-fj1hl]

8 in a row

[@boganbob2708]

No one plays in Melbourne. Or all of Victoria for that matter. So the Storm don't have 8 of anything. The real representative record is actually 21-0 held by NSW.

[@goodboydaz]

@@boganbob2708 cry about it

[@boganbob2708]

@@goodboydazI thought you would be crying at the lack of men in Victoria 21-0.

[@weburnitatbothends]

I'm with Brandy, spot on mate

[@RU-Aussie]

Your the one

[@Jack-gv3mk]

Cameron smith is such a cat. Everyone knows storm play filthy. That's how they have been winning for so long. It's bellamy. He started IT ALl... and we call him the best coach. He's the dirtiest coach.

[@michaelschultz3230]

They're paid to argue?

[@smithy2]

Storm play dirty, they are allowed by ref's to play dirty all the time, so give me a break them having a cry about it..

[@Mac-jx8uj]

Seriously, Cameron ? Brandy is dead right .

[@warriorsfan1602]

Penalty Melbourne!!!!!

[@peterlambert1355]

Of course all clubs do it. They are copying the Storm who introduced each of these tactics and are easily the best at finding “innovative” ways to skirt the rules. Same with the salary cap, all clubs cheat the cap, but no one were ever as good at it as the Storm (well maybe the Roosters 😁).

[@ZIGSVIDS]

Only all dangerous tackling techniques have come from Melbourne...all of them

[@Scooty_Scooty]

So Melbourne invented the spear tackle and shoulder charge aswell?

[@volkbeathollowaydealwithit2714]

Brandy needs to retire for good

[@jimbob5773]

Sillyness highlighted here, If it's wrong it would be penalized from the get go

[@PLock-cc4ml]

Greg's taking point was off. He should have suggested ways to redicate the bad tackle styles in the game now rather than saying which Club introduces it and won Premiership. This is coward or low level taking. Disgraceful.

[@Tommyty10]

Here’s my opinion Christian Welch openly said we need to keep the game slower and can’t keep speeding it up so can they legitimately not content without illegal parameters to win the ruck