Did I finally find it!? The BCW 6 Drawer Card Catalog | A BtDB Review

[@beyondthedeckbox]

It's been brought to my attention that the BCW 6 Drawer Card Catalog has had it's price raised to $118.99 since I released this video. I was very disappointed to see that. I understand these boxes are very expensive to ship and that is part of their cost, but at essentially $120... Just wanted to make sure you were aware of the price hike.

[@memnarch129]

Yeah I was commenting on another video whos topic was apropo to this ones. I did the math for the comment and you can buy 50k worth of card storage, 10 of BCWs basic 5k card boxes, for the same price as 1 of the Card Catalog. Im also looking for, have been for a while, comic storage. Their plastic bins are 35 bucks each, versus their cloth ones being 15 and betting the cardboard ones being like 3 or 4. Any company that produces plastic storage solutions REALLY need to rethink their pricing. With 3D printing becoming so affordable there is quickly going to become zero reason to pay 10+ dollars for these kinds of things considering if someone designed the files the likely cost of materials to print would be less than 5 bucks.

[@_t.wrecksyo-yo3386]

Sure, it's expensive for each catalog, but if each drawer indeed holds about 1200 cards, that's 3/4 the way to one of those grey bins. To house the about same amount of cards the catalog hold, you'd need 4.5 grey bins, costing $162. Seems like a no brainer that the catalog makes more sense.

[@TachibanaTengoku]

@@_t.wrecksyo-yo3386 2 5 rows cost like what, 10-20 bucks? Hold 14k unsleeved cards Card penthouse holds like 10-12k and are like 40 bucks, same thing as the catalog just made out of cardboard and uses vertical 800 ct boxes

[@respirs]

I just saw the card catalog on the BCW website and I immediately came back to KZbin to search for you!

[@DnDJordanL]

First of all! YOU ARE A HERO in making the original video of comparing the two, and the company is a legend for listening and coming up with this! There were a couple days where I was debating how difficult it would be to design my own product, etc. Honestly I think the price is fair. It’s the shipping that puts it over $100 that hurts 🤕 I see it being a feature thing being hard to move or “topple” if you will…yeah 6 drawers make sense but wonder if 2x2 would’ve been more practical or even a 1x3 🤔

[@nickguppy]

You should be able to get free shipping from any distributor selling this at MSRP, we get a discount for a reason.

[@DnDJordanL]

@@nickguppy oh dope! Thanks for the info! Then in that case yeah $100 sucks but is reasonable I feel

[@nickguppy]

@@DnDJordanL - Yeah, honestly I hate that this price is what it is, but since I know quite a bit about how they ended up at this price, it does kind of make more sense than it initially seems. Everything is so expensive now. Hope youa re able to get some. I have 16 of them in my game room in 2 kallax units and love them already.

[@DnDJordanL]

@@nickguppy ooo those look cool and practical! I would love to invest in something like that however I’d like to toddler proof it if possible, any suggestions? 🤔 I was looking at something like this: “Storage Cabinet with Doors Adjustable Shelves - 65" White Tall Kitchen Pantry Organizer with Metal Handle/LED Lights/Human Sensor - 5 Tier Display Bookcase for Bedroom Living Room Office”

[@p0keDAmo0seyXD]

Congratulations on the rebrand, life changes, etc. Get your coin my friend and I’ll always watch through your ad reads! I found you based on reviews and love these videos. Content I’d love to see more from you is your takes on upcoming sets, those completing the set videos (I’m sorry I don’t remember the series name), and content based around deck creation, maybe even vlog-style when you’re putting together a new deck, your draft kit, etc. I as a new-ish player would love to watch an experienced one gear up for their Friday night because I feel intimidated!

[@dangusmedia]

I may or may not use this as a stepping stone for the next Podcast episode.

[@glacyneyla-tradingcardgames]

Thank you (and BCW) so much, I love it!! ❤.❤ 100 $ / 90 € (I'm from Germany) is a okay price, I guess. 🤔 Three Dragon Shield 3-drawers cost 90 € together as well but DONT fit magnetic holders. 4x Ultra Pro Pro Binders cost 100 € and hold 360 x 4 = 1140 single sleeved cards.... 1/8 of the BCW drawers for the same price!! 😮😮😮 And of course, Pro Binders can't hold magnetic cases or toploaders. 😅 And as you said: the 4-row drawers cost 45 $ so it's understandable that the 8-row drawers in better quality cost 100 $! 😊 The only problem: Only ONE German seller has them... -.- Okay I have to order NOW!! 😂😂😂

[@PhoenicopterusR]

I'm honestly a bit shocked at the price of these. The MTechCave catalogues you talked about before are $139.99 for a 12 row of nearly the same dimensions (14 1/8" and 14 3/8", for MTC and BCW respectively). Obviously, it's worth mentioning the time for building the MTC catalogues but like...for $60 less? that seems worth skipping over the BCW's drawers.

[@Kazz1187]

I had to do a double take. Just about triple digits?!!!!

[@matthewkrumlauf9990]

Getting into magic again and I have so many cards that I am trying to organize. So much stress on getting proper space. So these reviews are so good for me!

[@jeremya446]

Thanks for the review and congrats and the changes and rebrand! I'm using BCW cardboard 800s and 1600s in a dresser. I like being able to take them out and work at a table. I think my collection would need to expand significantly to justify the cost for this but it does look really nice.

[@nickguppy]

Having personally switched, these are SOOOO much better. The 3200's are incredibly annoying with having to flip the lid under the feet. The 1600's solved this and added a handle but these are even better. But they aren't cheap and obviously if one has already invested in one setup then switching is difficult.

[@mathbun]

Great review and thanks for bringing this to my attention! Some type of card catalog for my cards is a holy grail item. Since you mentioned the price and did some comparison, I wish you would've compared it to something like the wooden ones you previously showcased on the channel

[@beyondthedeckbox]

That comparing review is coming soon. Waiting on the wooden version of this (that will fit in the Kallax) to come in the mail. Thanks for watching!

[@MementoNerdi]

I agree with you that this is EXACTLY the design that perfectly fits the needs of most private collectors, including myself who has a half dozen of the older generic 5-row cardboard flat boxes plus another few of the smaller 2-row ones, and am overflowing from those as it is. This would be a perfect sturdy replacement as the drawers would allow stack-ability along with a small bit of convenience when searching for a card, if only they were also removable for portability to a table or workbench. That said, what might be your opinion on if someone were to take this product and try to develop a 3D-printable version with some feature changes? If so, it may not be as durable of a product compared to the injection molded plastic like this but could be a much more cost effective idea depending on how much filament it may require. 🤔 Pardon the noise and the burning oil smell, it's just my mental gears at work! Lol.

[@UrbanTarantulas]

So, can you fit graded slabs in here? Card savers? I can't seem to find that answer.

[@beyondthedeckbox]

I know it can fit magnetics, screwdowns, and other things like it. I can't say for certain with graded slabs. I don't have any with me right now to test but I will have an answer for you in a couple days.

[@polymvth]

Great review! Definitely an interesting product, and the cube shelf question was exactly what came to mind first, thanks for covering! Would be super cool if someone made a 9 drawer that exactly fits a cube. I’m currently using a 9 bottle divider in a single cube with card board trays, but the mdf material is thick so it’s limiting the cubby holes. Would probably have to be a non-stackable, single unit to maximize inner drawer space.

[@dangusmedia]

I'm using a 12 drawer wooden system from Etsy. It wasn't cheap, nor did I like having to build it. But it fits perfectly. Now if only I had less cards....

[@Savedin1080p]

You should check out the MTech Cave drawers he mentioned, they have a 12 row that fits a cube! It's worth checking out!

[@dustin89clanton]

After fighting a shelf stacked with Dragon Shield storage containers for years, this new storage system looks amazing.

[@lanmarknetworking3034]

Maybe ill check it out! I just put over 100,000 commons in the 4 row bcw plastic boxes but those are in cabinets... these can be left out and work great to grab whatever whenever!

[@tinkan93]

I’ve given far too much of my personal time thinking about just buying this product, due to the price, and what I’ve come up with is that shipping is more this product so damn expensive. Shipping for BCW to send to distributors or to stores. Shipping for distributors or stores to then send to buyers. It’s the tcg storage equivalent of a 2010 tumblr page, shipping shipping shipping!! And idk the more I think about it I kinda feel like this is super niche product might be worth it? Thanks for the video btw.

[@nickguppy]

A ton of the reason is the shipping. As a BCW distributor, shipping the 3200 bins has SUCKED. They factored that in here and while it might be less good for consumers, its very appreciated for those of us that are distributors and would prefer not to lose money since everything has to have free shipping with Amaz*on controlling the industry.

[@poultrylord7300]

Been waiting for this as soon i saw these!

[@pb-bx1ll]

Great video, thank you

[@beyondthedeckbox]

Thank you!

[@kapiatgatas]

If they build one, what's the next one up? We tend to forget they are in a business to make money. Not to make us all happy. Like the different deck boxes I have? The best one is still Ultra Pro Tower or Satin Tower. They could not come up of anything new, except making it glitter or made from recycled materials. If only Ultimate Guard quality instead of Ultra Pro. Before CNC machines and 3D printing, I made one from plywood for bolts and screws. As a craftsman, I made my own library card style cabinet with drawers for my MTG cards. BCW made 6 drawers stackable. For the cost, I came out a winner with 24 drawers for less what BCW is asking for.

[@Andulvar]

$130cad isn't too bad. Plastic seems sturdy, design is decent. Usually cost is materials, design, and machining. As well as shipping materials and product. Spectre here on KZbin has a good video explaining the costs of making plastic figures, this helps understand costs when it comes to anything made with plastic from figures, to miniatures, to things like this.

[@beyondthedeckbox]

You are correct. I was fortunate enough to get an email from the designer after this video released and he explained that most of the cost is in the shipping. One of these costs the same amount to ship as three 3200 Card Bins which pushes up the cost significantly. While I hate to see the price that high, I can understand why. Thank you so much for watching!

[@williamdiehl117]

I had 4 of the 3,200 count storage bins and needed additional storage. I had been eyeing the Card Catalog option, like you that was what was my ideal solution. I was to a point where I had to get more storage now and couldn't put it off any longer. I ended up deciding on getting an additional (4) 3,200 count bins, simply because I agreed with your reasoning on the price. I couldn't justify spending double the cost, especially when I would need several of them. The cost disparity gets even bigger if you buy 4 of the 3,200 count bins at one time, the price drops from $44.99 each to $33.74 each. Which means you're basically getting one for next to nothing. Not to mention you get free shipping on orders over $100 - I am fortunate that I live close to where BCW is, so I can just place and order and arrange to pick it up in person which I have done on small orders.

[@nickguppy]

Without getting into specifics, since the distributor pricing on these is *LESS*, you could probably work with a distributor on a bulk order of these and save significantly. Why they didn't build any of that into the volume pricing like their other items is odd but I was told it was due to the bulky nature of the products and the fact that they have to ship individually (other items have a carton amount that is equal to the price break such as 4 for the 3200's).

[@williamdiehl117]

@@nickguppy I have what I need for now. But down the road I will need more as more sets come out. I buy and keep a large quantity of Lorcana cards. My goal is 2 playlets of every REGULAR card.

[@aceofspades6667]

Can this fit bcw one touch mags or is it too narrow? If I wanted to take one of these to a show is it portable? Not seeing a good way to carry filled one. If at a show I would want to take the bin out but yours shows it sticks in when you pull it all the way. Is it easy to remove a drawer if you want?

[@LordJaroh]

Those do look nice, and look like they might fit in my bookshelf arrangement nicely (might be too deep. I will have to measure). Hopefully they do a slight future redesign with lowered edges on the drawer (so they aren't so tall on the sides as you said). It'd be interesting to see a smaller version of these that could be assembled and have handles and such for portability (I have large planar cubes that would love to live in cases like this to be able to transport to people's houses for playing), but I do agree that too many cards would make them unwieldy. But maybe having a 4 row modular version might help. And yes, the price is quite excessive for what you get. Sure, it is fancy, but it is missing the bells and whistles that would truly put it over the top and worth its price. My knee-jerk reaction is that I would pay $60-$65ish for something of this nature (less if smaller of course). I would definitely not pay $100 US for it.

[@nickguppy]

I had the same thoguht about lowering the side for the middle portion but then that limits the ability to open it any amount you want and it to hold steady without sagging... so that doesn't really work. As for portability, I would not trust using this for a portable solution, its just not designed for that. As for the price, its expensive, I just think everything is getting more expensive and these suck to ship cross country and they tried to plan that in. Maybe later on the price comes down, I do not know. But the distributor pricing is less and its appreciated.

[@MrAscetic23]

Hey i was wondering if you've seen the Dragon shield Fortress, its a three drawer kinda binder thing? This thing seems cool but less modular.

[@beyondthedeckbox]

I have! I'm looking grab one here soon and will definitely be doing a review on it. Thank you so much!

[@xyton4201]

Looks awesome. Due to the price, i would maybe only buy it once or twice and use it for high value cards. But due to the price, id rather get something else. $70-75 usd is what i would personally pay for this kind of product.

[@allnovieveryday]

When these were in preorder I remember them having pretty good discounts on buying multiples ie. 2-3 come in at like $75 for example or something like that, I see now all those bulk rates are completely removed in addition to the price hike. Perhaps this is to counteract their random coupon code discounts. Even at $100 its a tough ask, hopefully the success for it leads to more innovation and competiton from competing storage companies... It is just a plastic box after all...Not like these things are nice clear acrylic with brass hardware. I've tried finding similar sized acrylic boxes from Target home decor for example but the dimensions are just ever so slightly off. Based on cost it seems totally doable to make them from nicer materials at that price point.

[@bradleyc127]

240 toploaders at 35pt im guessing? What about the total amount at different pt.'s like 55pt, 75pt and 100pt cards?

[@Evaders99]

A Card House is just too big for a Kallax shelf. But I found these 4-row 8000+ trading card storage boxes that are cheap and work well. Stack three high and you can pull each drawer out from its box pretty well.

[@nickguppy]

These are so insanely perfect for the kallax thought, just put 16 of them in my game room and it looks like it was designed for them.

[@fredmyers503]

great video. only question or thing i would like to know. is how does a kallax hold them? is it a tight fit, to much space leftover can 2 stack in 1 cube etc. . .

[@nickguppy]

Its perfect, its 1 of these per cube, they literally designed it with that in mind.

[@Badassest]

I need a deck box where if I'm losing I can press a button and a golem pops out to lop off my opponents head. And if someone else has one it nukes the store and neighborhood just to be sure.

[@scottcampbell9515]

This...this is SICK! Plus the mention of using it with IKEA furniture? *mind blown* A+ review. Do you have any suggestions on how to store playmats?

[@Savedin1080p]

MTech Cave has some playmat drawers! Check out his affiliate link so he can get a commission!

[@scottmacwatters]

These look so good but my current shelf is only like 10” deep at most 😢

[@Savedin1080p]

MTech Cave has some 10" deep drawers! You should check out his affiliate code!

[@sIosha]

Apparently they raised the price $19 in the last couple days.

[@beyondthedeckbox]

Thank you so much for letting me know! I have pinned a comment and updated the description with the new price. I was disappointed to see that.

[@scottcampbell9515]

Can these hold ultra pro deck boxes?

[@beyondthedeckbox]

It can hold the thin plastic ones, but the satin towers are just a bit too wide for them.

[@scottcampbell9515]

@@beyondthedeckbox Awesome thank you. I have the Ultra Pro deck boxes with the card art on the front so if that's what you're talking about then it'll work.

[@willyice704]

If they could make this more affordable I'd replace every card box I have.

[@electrospud9230]

Nice! something I really want to get, but unfortnately not available in my part of the world which sucks 🤔

[@nickguppy]

Everything can be shipped... for a price.

[@TheRawketLawnchair]

bad news its 118 now.

[@beyondthedeckbox]

Thank you for letting me know! Was disappointed to see they raised the price right after I dropped the video.

[@truce11]

Glad they made this but that initial price is rough... Esp from BCW.

[@nickguppy]

If you find a BCW distributor, maybe they will make you a deal.

[@thevampiresaint]

Now they're $120 :D

[@brianmarini4841]

it's great but at a hundred smackos, ill keep my white cardboard

[@KimberlyAllen-e4v]

Rau Throughway

[@NsyteIcyShadow]

$100 for this is robbery in my opinion. $50 is the absolute most I could see this priced but even then I would be iffy. This shouldn't cost more than like $40 +Tax and shipping. I can go to my local cardshop and buy 12 4 row 3200 count cardboard boxes for $102 plus Tax which would make it about $110 in my area. That's two boxes per row on this thing. It sucks cuz I'm really trying to find something that makes it easier to store a bunch of cards but everything I find is just crazy expensive or it doesn't fit my needs. Guess Imma just have to stick to cardboard for a while.

[@nickguppy]

Unfortunately I think you are forgetting these are made in china and shipped overseas and then shipped to a distributor and then to you, thats a lot of shipping. Thats why large bulky items just have to cost more. There is far more than $50 into making it and all that shipping. WIth that said if you find a distributor, and especially if you want multiple there is probably a chance they could work with you on a discount to get it at least slightly closer to what you are stating. Its just that your numbers aren't really practical for 2024.

[@NsyteIcyShadow]

@@nickguppy Unfortunately I think you are forgetting that it doesn't matter where it comes from. This is an American company not a Chinese company. If this was an Australian company or something then it'd be a totally different story but it's not. My job as the customer isn't to cover your inefficiency in costs. That's your job as a company. If 80% of your cost is shipping then you need to re-evaluate your model and do it better. I'm not gonna pay $20 for a slice of bread just because it came from Russia. Edit: It's also $99 on their own website that I would have to go pick up myself at their own warehouse. So that means it costs them like $60 per unit to be shipped from China? Cuz the materials and labor for this aren't even that expensive. They really are terrible at cost management then.

[@nickguppy]

@@NsyteIcyShadow - I am very sorry I replied and upset you so badly. I was just trying to state things are much more expensive now than they used to be. You are absolutely correct it doesn't matter that its made in China. My guess is that if they could make it in the US for less they would, so that makes my point irrelivant. I don't agree with your math at the end though, as I know what my cost as a distributor is. But I do not work for BCW or set their distributor costs or MSRP. Good luck to you sir and again I am sorry I upset you by replying to your comment.

[@NsyteIcyShadow]

@@nickguppy I'm not upset with you I'm just upset with BCW and the ridiculous cost they're trying to get away with. Are people gonna buy it? Absolutely cuz there's tons of collectors out there with disposable income. It's not gonna be for me though. Out of curiosity though what's your cost on the product and how much do you sell it for? I'd like to compare some numbers if possible.

[@nickguppy]

@@NsyteIcyShadow - Strange timing, we just got an email from BCW a couple hours ago today that prices are changing for 8/1 and this item is one of them, its going up to $118.99 UGH... I don't think I can really defend that price, but as I predicted the said the cost increases (which are on about 90% of their items) are said to be due to the international cargo shipping cost. I'm sorry that I can't post my cost on the internet though, part of the NDA of being a distributor.

[@DnDJordanL]

Lucky 14th comment! Year I grad’d high school

[@ImAnerd568]

Looks great but I can’t bring myself to pay $100+ for it.

[@ViXoZuDo]

I love it, but not for 100... I would definitely buy it at around 60. For $100 I could easily manufacture it out of plywood.

[@nickguppy]

I feel like you haven't seen the prices of plywood lately LOL - but seriously find a BCW distributor, maybe you can get a discount. Not sure about the price you stated, but closer to it for sure.

[@ViXoZuDo]

@@nickguppy 4-ft x 8-ft 3/8" plywood is like $30... 2 of those should be more than enough... maybe even 1 if you plan it perfectly.

[@nickguppy]

@@ViXoZuDo - I'm sorry it was only intended to be a light hearted joke about wood being more expensive than it used to be. I'm absolutely sure you could build one for the cost of a sheet of plywood... but it wouldn't be as nice.

[@xternalpunk]

Yeahhhh I'll keep my cardboard boxes that are way cheaper. But thanks for the review. Remember when Prof used to do stuff like this before he sold out.

[@hizeru2029]

How has prof sold out?

[@stumduffins]

It's $120 now 😢

[@beyondthedeckbox]

Thanks for letting me know! Was disappointed to see they raised the price.

[@cressentwolf]

Can someone direct me to a legit link to this product????

[@beyondthedeckbox]

Here is an Amazon affiliate link and this listing seems to be in stock. amzn.to/3SScjjc The main BCW website is saying it's on back order. Hope that helps.

[@joejojo5966]

absurdly expensive for something that they make for like 10$ probably lmao.

[@chitiz1246]

primer comentario xD

[@georgeramos3632]

Dude WTF….all you did was talk. Show us how the cards fit inside the drawers….show how the cards fit in with top loaders and or graded cards…