Jesus multiples the loaves but Mohammad multipled the qurans!
@MartinezzJT3 жыл бұрын
@Halim Yacob Those little high school tricks don't work anymore here 😀
@eviorwayne26503 жыл бұрын
L Lawliet you do know jesus will come to quote you on that only then tell him the truth why you disrespected his fellow messenger
@eviorwayne26503 жыл бұрын
Indigator Veritatis you are going to get destroyed :) its a holy book not to be taken lightly
@marcuslow13863 жыл бұрын
@Halim Yacob lol have you actually read those verses you are quoting at least?! We all know it is all cut and paste. Do be so ignorant and lazy. Educate yousellf about what you are trying to say to others.
@blackmamba62533 жыл бұрын
@Halim Yacob Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things." Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot. (See also: Response to Apologists) Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help." (See also: Response to Apologists) Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah'). (See also: Response to Apologists) Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward." The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, who were led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. This is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers. (See also: Response to Apologists) Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who disbelieve, fight in the cause of Taghut (Satan, etc.). So fight you against the friends of Shaitan (Satan)" The Arabic for the word "fight" is from qital, meaning physical combat. Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks." (See also: Response to Apologists) Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those of the believers who sit (at home), except those who are disabled (by injury or are blind or lame, etc.), and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives. Allah has preferred in grades those who strive hard and fight with their wealth and their lives above those who sit (at home).Unto each, Allah has promised good (Paradise), but Allah has preferred those who strive hard and fight, above those who sit (at home) by a huge reward " This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is this Arabic word (mujahiduna) used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption. (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad, which would not make sense if it meant an internal struggle). (See also: Response to Apologists) Quran (4:101) - "And when you (Muslims) travel in the land, there is no sin on you if you shorten your Salat (prayer) if you fear that the disbelievers may attack you, verily, the disbelievers are ever unto you open enemies." Mere disbelief makes one an "open" enemy of Muslims. Quran (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain..." Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self-defense? (See also: Response to Apologists) Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement" (See also: Response to Apologists) Quran (8:12) - "(Remember) when your Lord inspired the angels... "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle, given that it both followed and preceded confrontations in which non-Muslims were killed by Muslims. The targets of violence are "those who disbelieve" - further defined in the next verse (13) as those who "defy and disobey Allah." Nothing is said about self-defense. In fact, the verses in sura 8 were narrated shortly after a battle provoked by Muhammad, who had been trying to attack a lightly-armed caravan to steal goods belonging to other people. (See also: Response to Apologists)
@craigmatchett69533 жыл бұрын
So most Muslims don't understand how there can be 1 YHWH but 3 persons..... but they can believe 1 Quaran but 700 "perfect" same same (but different) versions? Hmmmmm?
@ruthybeauty3 жыл бұрын
Yes dear
@rafi50893 жыл бұрын
@Morgh123 make a chapter like quran
@borneandayak67253 жыл бұрын
@@rafi5089 no human can make a chapter like Quran, because Quran are the most corrupt book ever written. No one can compete the Quran in term of corruption.
@premlatamahale32563 жыл бұрын
Muslims understand everything very well, it's in their dna to not show acceptance.
@user-pk2ol8qv2y3 жыл бұрын
@@rafi5089 The Jinn already made. Quran Chapter Jinn. Take care bro.
@Psalm3163 жыл бұрын
We love you Jay. Keep providing concrete evidence. The lure is ridiculously getting exposed. Keep sharing to the lost Muslim souls 🙏🏽
@bilalnezha84883 жыл бұрын
Please Advise his to ask for a debate so u'll know if his lies will stand. The Guy is so ignorant and ridiculous.
do you know what a sheik is. "a leader in a Muslim community or organization."
@monogenes30913 жыл бұрын
GOD bless you Dr. Jay Smith, you're great! thanks for your service and opening up the Islam myth.
@Friedrichsen3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all your hard work making this info available! I'm looking forward to your next video :)
@olanipekunonatemowo44523 жыл бұрын
Jay Smith, you are wrong. 1000 Quorans please. 🤣🤣🤣
@josephcasley79793 жыл бұрын
There is no Koran. Period.
@Josdamale3 жыл бұрын
Well done. Amazing work. Why aren't Muslims dealing with their own religious text?
@craigmatchett69533 жыл бұрын
Lol... which text? #1 or, # 17 or #700? To many to choose from. But remember there is only 1 Quaran 🤣
@zimma23303 жыл бұрын
why aren't christians dealing with the 50.000 mistakes found in the bible?
@Josdamale3 жыл бұрын
@@zimma2330 My dear friend, as you know the Quran and the Bible tell us that Jesus Christ is the eternal, divine and uncreated Word of God. The Bible is a book written by human beings inspired by God that points, like all prophecy does, to God the Word becoming flesh and making us humans like God in eternal life and the divine nature. As God is love so we become love. This is the way of life. The person of Jesus Christ, which is absolutely singular, is the Word of God. He exists as perfect God in the divine unchanging nature, and as a true human being in the human nature he took from the Virgin Mary. The Word of God is a person who is both divine and human, and this is what the Bible teaches us. You have to agree that a recitation of Arabic words in the 7th century produced by Bedouin warlords is not the eternal, uncreated, and divine Word of God.
@neilsavage89153 жыл бұрын
@@zimma2330 lol there are only 31,102 verses in The Holy Bible. Did you get that number from the false prophet mickey moe 😂😂😂
@kojoti66273 жыл бұрын
Christian prince show today from their Islamic books on Arabic that they are 890 different qurans go and watch his video...
@osababinladen4203 жыл бұрын
Sounds like each different quran has it's own exclusive Allah. We are discovering now that more Allahs exist.
@someonethatisachristian3 жыл бұрын
@Kakashi Hatake You can't sweep this under the rug: Acording to surah 85:21-22 there's one quran existing in heaven. Which is it? 26 different arabic versions of the quran presented: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpTSfnVuo6-Ko9k 7 different hafs versions presented: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a2q1hmRqj850qpY NOT Qira'at or Ahruf differences (since this recording, it's increased from 60000 to 93000 differences in 30 different arabic qurans): kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6HWn4uDj5qfe6c Yasir Qadhi have no answer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJXFoqWqe82YjLs 200+ quran verses missing from a single chapter: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pKDYeWR_aayre9k Sana manuscript: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jqezfnevd9GIhqM What hadiths say about corruption in the quran: Some Verses were LOST (Ibn Abi Dawud, Kitab al-Masahif p.23) Some Verses DISAPPEARED (as-Suyuti, [d. 1500sAD] Al-Itqan fii Ulum al-Qur’an, p.524). Some Verses were FORGOTTEN (Sahih Muslim, [d. 875 AD] Vol. 2:2286, p.501) Some Verses were CANCELLED (Sahih al-Bukhari, [d. 870AD] Vol. 5:416, pg.288) Some Verses went MISSING (Sahih al-Bukhari, [d. 870AD] Vol. 8:817, pg.539) Some Verses were OVERLOOKED (Ibn Abi Dawud, Kitab al-Masahif p.11) Some Verses were CHANGED (Muwatta Imam Malik, [d.795 AD] p.64) Some Verses were MODIFIED (Ibn Abi Dawud, Kitab al-Masahif p.117) Some Verses were SUBSTITUTED (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 6, Book 61, Number 527) Some Verses were EATEN BY SHEEP (Sunan ibn Majah, d. 1277) 33 different versions of the arabic quran by name: 1. Qaloon 2. Al-Susi (Ibn Katheer) 3. Khallad 4. Idrees 5. Warsh 6. Hafs Ad-Duri (Abu Amro alBasri) 7. Al-Laith 8. al-Bazzi 9. Al-Azraq 10. As-Susi (Abu Amro alBasri) 11. Ad-Duri (alKisa’i) 12. Ibn Shanboodh 13. Al-Asbahaani 14. Hisham 15. Isa BinWardan 16. Sulayman 17. al-Bazzi 18. Ibn Dhakwan 19. Ibn Jammaz 20. Ahmad bin Farah 21. Qunbul 22. Showba 23. Ruwais 24. Shujaa’ bin Abi Nasr Al-Balakhi 25. Abu Amro Al-Ala 26. Hafs 27. Ruh 28. Al-Duri (alHasan alBasri) 29. Hafs Al-Duri (Ibn Katheer) 30. Khalf 31. Ishaq 32. Al-Hasan bin Said Al-Matuu’i 33. Abu Farah Al-Shan-budhi
@billy11323 жыл бұрын
Dear Bro Jay, Thank GOD in CHRIST JESUS, for yr deep reading of the koran. Thank GOD for your boldness to expose the untruths of this religion!!!
@abukhamis93293 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/paHGhqaKd9B8g6M
@isaiah53apologetics563 жыл бұрын
Love your work, from Kenya!
@saulien36753 жыл бұрын
Always so good, Thank you Dr.Jay!
@christianguyapologetic59973 жыл бұрын
mr Jay when are you coming to Nigeria to teach some of us Apologist
@josephcasley79793 жыл бұрын
Is that not where the Boko Haram are operating? Is it wise to come there for an Islamic basher?
@AI-dc3zo3 жыл бұрын
Do you have a channel?
@messianicsheikh19283 жыл бұрын
Yeah. It's true we need this in Africa for gospel to the lost sheep. If there's that opportunity, remember me too my brother.
@messianicsheikh19283 жыл бұрын
@Adam Musthafa Funny no where to hide for fake prophet now. We will continue to expose you everywhere.
@arastusattarad65303 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much brother Jay. I have been sharing yyou videos with people in Pakistan. These are eagerly awaited and much loved. May Lord bless you and keep you in good health, we all pray for you. Bless you.
@robertbuscho45473 жыл бұрын
Love your analysis.
@christislord70033 жыл бұрын
So islam is the religion of mujahid! Wow this is new learning!
@christislord70033 жыл бұрын
K P first problem the Birmingham manuscript is only two pages. Where are the other rest of 114 chapters? Second problem the Birmingham is different from hafs and it has variants. Look at the dots. They are different. So why use hafs? Third problem. Look at the dates 568 to 645. The first quran was compiled on 650 by uthman! Muhammad has no quran during his life. This manuscript rejects all islamic narratives.
@abukhamis93293 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/paHGhqaKd9B8g6M
@messianicsheikh19283 жыл бұрын
If Muslims believed that the quran came from Allah they wouldn't really play with it as they do.
@Katz7773 жыл бұрын
Thanks to God for we have Jay !🙏❤️ you are fantastic, and have so awesome an energy. You can make theology so exciting!. Let this power be with you🥳✝️💐💕
@SandeepKumar_V3 жыл бұрын
Allah said he will replace his words as long as he finds something better than the precious revelation. Allah is still changing his words even after 1400 years!
@Billy_Mandalay3 жыл бұрын
lol
@Dave84King3 жыл бұрын
it is not even al'lah that changes the words, but man. al'lah must be an idiot since these Islamic scholars have to go behind him to correct or change his words.
@MartinezzJT3 жыл бұрын
Make that 1400 versions on my bill 😅😅😅
@Pissarrio3 жыл бұрын
can you point me to the verse in quran where is says that allah will replace his words
@SandeepKumar_V3 жыл бұрын
@@Pissarrio S 2:106
@davidmcintosh34683 жыл бұрын
AWESOME! I am so excited to hear about Haf and how he beat out all of the contenders!
@toriojennifer37133 жыл бұрын
Dr. Jay what you are uncovering now is common knowledge for the eastern christians from a long long time.
@marcuslow13863 жыл бұрын
Shame that they did not speak up or share the information or did they?
@Yuyup73343 жыл бұрын
@@marcuslow1386 Well I think, unlike it in the west, it is because the situation in the east in which they were was far from being conducive for them to do so.
@marcuslow13863 жыл бұрын
@@Yuyup7334 probably. It is high time christians of different denomination and tradition move towards unity. A fractured christian world is a poor witness to our Lord. But let not the strength of unity be ours that can boast of but from and for God.
@Yuyup73343 жыл бұрын
@@marcuslow1386, agreed!
@musqul85663 жыл бұрын
It is not and has never been a common knowledge among the Muslim masses. They believed the lies they have been fed. I don't think we realize how really important this work is.
@ukwelinauwazi55233 жыл бұрын
Una uchambuzi mzuri sana...ubarikiwe sana kwa somo zuri... *EAST AFRICANS ARE WATCHING YOU* Be blessed in the name of Jesus 🙏
@user-vt3vg4xs2t3 жыл бұрын
Professor Jay, I am a Christian from Iraq, how can I speak with you?
@amhenotepakkardius55043 жыл бұрын
Iraq had one of the oldest churches in Christendom. Islam over centuries, with systematic persecution, decimated it.My church in India had its bishops from Iraq Chaldean St Thomas traditions. We pray that it will be restored.
@amhenotepakkardius55043 жыл бұрын
@K P This is what is "seeing the woods for the trees". Read the Gospel of John where Jesus says I and my father are one" Before Abraham was I Am" You do not understand the Holy Trinity ,that's the problem. Qur'an's oldes version is the Sana a Manuscript. It shows overwriting and Erasures. Some presevartion indeed. Where are the ayaths -more than a hundred relating to adult breastfeeding and stoning to death in chapter 3 of the Quran? In A Isha's own words, they were "eaten by a tame sheep" during the funeral preparations of Muhammad. That's some preservation indeed. And then the logical fallacy of your argument .You try to distract attention from the subject at hand by talking about the divinity of Jesus. We are talking about the Quran preservation .This is called red herring fallacy. Running away from the topic to hide behind allegations of some kind. Don't try to fool people. They are cleverer than you moronic Islamists.
@amhenotepakkardius55043 жыл бұрын
@K P arguing with a proven fact looks really absurd
@scottthong92743 жыл бұрын
How can all the different qiraat be the one Quran like the one unchanging one in heaven? Quantum physics. This is like Schrödinger's Cat which is both alive and dead. We shall call it Schrödinger's Qiraat. Truly the Quran must be of divine origin for containing such advanced science! 😏
@scottthong92743 жыл бұрын
@Mahmood Ali The issue is multiple. For one, it's not just same word with different pronunciation but different words. For two, it's not just vowel differences but the rasm consonant letters. For three, it is entire words and sentences changed or missing. My comment is to popularize the term Schrödinger's Qiraat, but if you're on Pfander channel you should know all the many serious problems with the Quranic text as covered in the videos.
@scottthong92743 жыл бұрын
@Mahmood Ali The problem with your neat theory is that Uthman clearly told the committee that if there were any disputes in different recitation, write the finalized text in the Qurayshi dialect. Writing down the Qurayshi dialect needs the vowel marks. Which came 20 years after Uthman according to you. So how did Uthman achieve this fest of writing the Quran using vowel marks from the future?
@scottthong92743 жыл бұрын
@Mahmood Ali Wait wait let me see if I get you straight... You are saying that Uthman managed to record the Qurayshi dialect in textual form using only the rasm, without any diacritics? 🤔
@scottthong92743 жыл бұрын
@Mahmood Ali Then my question is how did UTHMAN get his team to write the Quran in the Qurayshi dialect if dialectical marks HAD NOT BEEN INVENTED YET???
@andrewyjh893 жыл бұрын
@Mahmood Ali Hi, could you tell how you came to that definition of "dialect"? Because it doesn't sound like the common definition of dialect that is generally accepted and assumed by people. Also, different words in different dialects, as you mentioned in your comment. Do you have any credible sources for that? How did you come to that conclusion?
@franciscussuyapno73813 жыл бұрын
_God bless you CP & JS!_
@user-pk2ol8qv2y3 жыл бұрын
Jay Smith a couple of days later: Did I say 30 Qur'ans? My bad, I should have said 100's ... of 1,000's!
@kofimicheal69413 жыл бұрын
Dr. God bless you for your work.
@realmikemartins3 жыл бұрын
✋✋I had to watch this video 2wice . Wow . Thanks for sharing this ❤🧡💚
@henrychristian48103 жыл бұрын
Respected sir ! Happy to learn from you.
@josevergara61613 жыл бұрын
Allah the God of confusion is master of twisting the minds of Muslim...
@perfectlypreservedvariantq48753 жыл бұрын
Great video Dr. Jay..God Bless
@Kopie08303 жыл бұрын
Do you have sources of the different types of quran in pdf form or perhaps links to them?
@AtamMardes3 жыл бұрын
It is not illegal to think, so try to think about it: *A 50 year old so-called prophet of God who is supposed to teach morality ends up marrying a 9 year old girl.* Think about it.
@Notreallyhereanymore6 ай бұрын
lol these claims are insane
@R2026I3 жыл бұрын
These Guys transmitted the Quran like Covid 19 spread hahah hahaha😂😂😂😂
@emmauajustnbuvi36783 жыл бұрын
700Qiraats amazing Good presentation stay blessed
@savior28993 жыл бұрын
Mr.Jay Smith, destroys the history of islam.....cronology, as it's just tries and errors done by muslim writers to fit the things in those times....but failed😀😀😀😀😀😀
@savior28993 жыл бұрын
@Md. Abdul Kadir Akash I think you don't went through the full video, and the previous of jay Smith so you are saying it....check your scholars eg: Yasir qadhi: there are holes in quran....check the holes for the book from heaven...
@someonethatisachristian3 жыл бұрын
@Md. Abdul Kadir Akash actually it's a corrupt text based on a false theory that is regularly updated, nestle aaland (NA26, NA27, NA28 etc). Here you find the bibles that are allways updated and have flaws, like NIV etc. Watch bob from soco films video on text criticism. King James follows the traditional church text and isn't changed. Want a very accurate bible, choose King James. Want a bible that's easy to understand in 2020 English, get NKJV because old fashion Shakespeare English is a bit hard to understand for some. NKJV may be less accurate and faithful to septuagint than KJV but it's like KJV with a bit of paint, so it's easy to understand. There are other bible translations but I know best the King James bible and every word or supposed "problems" in it I've checked out, from hell to unicorn to "Thou shalt not kill", turns out to be accurate. www.kjvtoday.com and www.biblehub.com to compare to hebrew or greek
@henriksparre4933 жыл бұрын
Islam is truely horrible thank God it is dead.
@RichardCrusader3333 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Jay, you are the best.
@JohnDelVentomusic3 жыл бұрын
Good to see Shady Nasser’s work here.
@musqul85663 жыл бұрын
Jay wears brown shirt Quran: Ah sh*t here we go again
@ianofliverpool77013 жыл бұрын
Yes but there all perfectly preserved.......somewhere
@ericthegreat78053 жыл бұрын
Do you have a larger version of the graph with the dozens of transmitters?
@truthnationet89263 жыл бұрын
We love you dear! Continue exposing the truth! This will eradicate so much suffering from the world!
@muhammadluqman2173 жыл бұрын
can we have references of all the qirat? because all of them are without references. please provide. i need them for my research. Thanks in advance.
@michael58073 жыл бұрын
In Germany we call that funny game "Stille Post" ~ "Chinese Whispers"
@mikegreen22293 жыл бұрын
Readers and Narrators and Transmitters, oh my! I don’t think we’re in Kansas anymore Toto
@AbcManTr3 жыл бұрын
Gosples eliminated and compiled for 400 years. texts corrected.
@thetruthwillsetyoufree8913 жыл бұрын
LOVED IT!!
@mohammedismail76283 жыл бұрын
I'd studied Qira'at (Quran reading science) & I'll list here some points: 1) Quran at first was never intended to be written as a manuscript; but rather to be spread "vocally" via trusted recitation then by repeated memorization. This goal was achieved during the life of Prophet Muhammad PBUH - for at least 10,000 follower after him - and over 22 years Quran had been revealed -a chapter by chapter- in which was supervised by the prophet to give the chapter its name and to sort them in order - even though when some "long" chapters were not revealed completely yet. Most of Meccan "earlier/shorter" chapters (86 out of 114; ~60% of Quran) were revealed completely in Mecca within the first 13 years and stayed stationary after that time while new chapters take place but although same kind of qira'at conditions applied to Quran as a whole. 2) Sources of all different narrations of Quran were simply the Sahaba (companions of the prophet) themselves, none of them tried to hide anything heard as they believed that the Quran is a kind of "hyper-text" which can be overloaded with more than one form/syntax/semantic/interpretation etc. For example, the most famous difference in qira'at is in chapter 1 "Al-Fatihah": verse no.4; which has two qira'at: (ملك يوم الدين \ مالك يوم الدين); one vowel letter difference in the first word translates to (King of Judgement Day \ Owner of Judgement Day). The above chapter is specifically the most frequent read chapter daily by all Muslims at least 17 times during every prayer - and so assuming that transmission errors which lead to such two different forms is excluded and the other assumption which is this verse was intended to be read using both words (but not at the same time). Most of the companions heard one form but also some others heard both forms in different occasions and when they were asked to teach others either they narrated only one qira'ah or they narrated both. Here is how more than one qira'ah come into existence and the people who took care of transmitting all such kind of differences of narrations (mostly at pronouncing some vowels/letters/tonation, but also in some cases could be changing of active/passive/spelling/verse counting, some cases come as fixed rules and others are irregular, in so there was a necessity for a new science to keep track of all complexities) 3) Many inaccurate things were mentioned such as counting of narrators as separate Qurans rather than to be mentioned as "Paths" according to Qira'at scholars. Names of people were elected to refer shortly to the famous reading in a specific regional place, not to honor the reciter himself. Some Narrators were counted twice for the same person having two different sources of qira'ah; such as with "Ad-Duri" or "Khalaf" You can listen to sample of a chapter of Quran read continuously with all possible 10 qira'at here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nKXdm3p5f8-lkLs
@shainazion4073 Жыл бұрын
There is absolutely no proof that people memorized the Quran. We have no proof of what they supposedly memorized.
@AS-jj4dv3 жыл бұрын
It is common sense that it would not be possible to preserve a book/manuscripts letter by letter at a time of oral traditions and difficulties to keep record of written pieces in distant regions. I am now wondering if the meaning and the texts have been substantially changed, and if so in which direction? Can the changes be traced back, and how far back?
@DrAmrSaeb3 жыл бұрын
It is very clear the lack of scientific consistency and/or approach or methodology in this matter. I can not blame them because they inherently lack the systematic way of dealing with any issue. The main problem here that though the British education worked hard with the Indians and Pakistanis to teach them this systematic and logic scientific thinking and still they come out and defend this RANDOMNESS !!!!.
@DrAmrSaeb3 жыл бұрын
@HB Net lol, we the pharaohs, made science while making history !!! who are you ?!!!!!
@DrAmrSaeb3 жыл бұрын
@HB Net And I will go with that !! which science did the Arabs provided humanity ?!!! Tell you before you answer me, non of the names you will mention are Arabs !!
@DrAmrSaeb3 жыл бұрын
@HB Net Literally, you can !! and with simple DNA analysis from the science of West that you call them KOFFAR you can prove it or deny it. However, the cavemen in North Africa can not be compared with Pharaohs !!
@DrAmrSaeb3 жыл бұрын
@HB Net Your logic is really messed up !!. To you shallow knowledge, the word Coptic means old Egyptian and it applies to both Christian and Muslim Egyptians. Also, go read and learn and you will know why the Egyptians joined Islam !!. It is not out subject here !!!
@DrAmrSaeb3 жыл бұрын
HB Net Another retarded answer, my field of speciality is molecular population genetics, however both modern or traditional genetics has nothing to do with your kind !!
@Speakers1543 жыл бұрын
Just finished watching. That was epic! Hundreds of different Qur'ans! That is incredible! Yet Muslims still believe they only have 1 quran. Amazing!
@yudhierahawarin253 жыл бұрын
I love to see you colaborate this topic with CP Mr. Smith...
@ngobijerry46073 жыл бұрын
Great research done
@paladinhansen1373 жыл бұрын
I will be taking this information and using it in my ministry in the future. Right now im working on Jonah. Using sources from John Kostik and the Tanakh from his work on his three part series on Jonah, as well as reading the Islamic sources that are in the Qu'ran. Muslims are going to be in a real shock! The Qur'an has a lot of holes in its narrative!
@JettoGospel3 жыл бұрын
Can you create a meme with all 30 Qur'ans and title it "which version Qur'an" and let's make it viral.
@mikegreen22293 жыл бұрын
Who would have a more accurate understanding of George Washington? Thomas Jefferson, or me? C’mon, it’s only 200 years later! 🤣🤣🤣
@jdshl84233 жыл бұрын
What amazing science this is! If Darwinian evolutionists had charts for the creatures they claim were intermediates that looked like this, I'd believe it! LOL! It doesn't take rocket scientist certification to know the charts are seriously damning. We have these charts, and we're finding more and more of these variant Qurans, and also that none of them agree textually. Perfectly preserved indeed!
@johnstewart32443 жыл бұрын
Jay. Can you comment about the Tubingen manuscript that Dr Shabbir Ali has recently been enthralled about? Thanks
@truthdefenders46943 жыл бұрын
In November 2014, the University of Tübingen in Germany announced that a partial Quran manuscript in their possession (Ms M a VI 165), had been carbon dated (with a confidence of 95%), to between 649 and 675. The manuscript is now recognized as being written in hijazi script, although in the 1930 catalogue of the collection it is classified as "Kufic", and consists of the Quranic verses 17:36, to 36:57 (and part of verse 17:35). (It's only a partial manuscript, just do a search on it)
@johnstewart32443 жыл бұрын
@@truthdefenders4694 yes, I would like to hear what Jays thoughts are on it and if it any way alters his theories! Apparently it is early and the only dots on it are written in a different colour and appear to be added later!
@Gorillarevolta3 жыл бұрын
It's interesting that the ad hoc hadith they use to explain the mess -comes centuries after muhammad -is inconsistently graded (though that could be from different isnads in fairness) -sometimes says 'this quran' (ie 'this recitation') rather than 'the quran' perhaps simply in reference to the 'recitation' of surah al furqan rather than the entire quran itself
@bodonagtegaal12143 жыл бұрын
Hatun Tash have a long way to go. Hopefully she does not go bankrupt ...
@rudolfsroyer60293 жыл бұрын
Proud of you Jay. Jesus bless you 🙏👍
@ExtraEcclesiamNullaSalus3 жыл бұрын
Can you have someone compare the oldest reading to Hafs since it's so later.
@aboebsp3 жыл бұрын
hello Sir when will you wear any batik again?
@kafirlindaclark61483 жыл бұрын
17,100 VIEWS Dr. Jay! Wooohooo!
@kafirlindaclark61483 жыл бұрын
@tigerarmyrule It is my daily prayer that Muslims start questioning their books and their man. Once they begin to question, Jesus can make a crack in their armor, like a tree seed in a rock wall.
@kafirlindaclark61483 жыл бұрын
@tigerarmyrule exactly! God bless you tiger!
@abukhamis93293 жыл бұрын
23.Your Lord has decreed that you shall not worship anyone except Him, and [He has enjoined] kindness to parents. Should they reach old age at your side -one of them or both- do not say to them, ‘Fie!’1 And do not chide them, but speak to them noble words. 24.Lower the wing of humility to them, out of mercy, and say, ‘My Lord! Have mercy on them, just as they reared me when I was [a] small [child]!’ 25. Your Lord knows best what is in your hearts. Should you be righteous, He is indeed most forgiving toward penitents. 26. Give the relatives their [due] right, and the needy and the traveller [as well], but do not squander wastefully.
@donalddavid12623 жыл бұрын
JAY is the content of the Quran changed and some parts are missing from the original or just there are variant readings? It is not clear from your presentation. What are Rawls? I am really confused.
@truthdefenders46943 жыл бұрын
There is no "original".
@najiullah483 жыл бұрын
In Islam, Qira'at (Arabic: قِراءة, lit. 'recitations or readings') are "the different linguistic, lexical, phonetic, morphological and syntactical forms permitted with reciting the Quran". Pronouncing "Apple" in 1000 different ways doesn't make it a "Banana"
@MU-we8hz3 жыл бұрын
Galatians 6:7 "Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap." For a long time muslims say that Christians have many Bibles and that they have one perfectly lreserved Quran. This has turned totaly against them now. God will not be mocked!
@MU-we8hz3 жыл бұрын
@K P hahaha. And then came the sana manuscript. Perfect preservation you say? Shabir Ally and Yasir Qhadi already destroyed that.
@reylambarte56153 жыл бұрын
Even the prophet will be incapable to explain all of this only alla maybe, muslim scholars where are you?
@reylambarte56153 жыл бұрын
@elli bull i tried to point out that it is impossible to explain the scriptural problem of the quran regarding its authinticity, maybe alla only can.
@reylambarte56153 жыл бұрын
@elli bull i agree
@joseph299933 жыл бұрын
What is the difference between half ( 9th century) and half ( 1924 ) ?
@taecart80833 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@deanreid17903 жыл бұрын
Who incited Divid to count the fighting men of Israel God did- 2(Samuels 24:1) Satan did-( 1Chronicles21:1) I would like someone to tell me which one of these verse is the correct?
@PraveenSingh-id9qx3 жыл бұрын
Word "Nikah" has a great meaning please have a look at it in Arabic and then see rituals for nikah like "Mahr" or money for marriage or contract.
@reidvanastrea3 жыл бұрын
Wait whaaaaaat
@henryluna91733 жыл бұрын
Dr Jay Smith you're doing a fine job our God Almighty God Three One is speaking through you to save the innocent Muslims who have been kept in the dark for a very very long time now they are informed they may decide to follow Lord Jesus Christ. The very foundation of Islam is falling apart thank you Dr Smith. Keep up the good work. Cheers.
@sergioterra92323 жыл бұрын
Where in Florida are ya?
@ruthybeauty3 жыл бұрын
Wow
@dohnlabalaba9470 Жыл бұрын
Isn't brown a symbol of Protestantism? I always love to follow your explanations on Islam because it helps me to explain it to my friends and I point them to listen to you on KZbin.
@pr70493 жыл бұрын
Islamic books say 8️⃣0️⃣0️⃣-9️⃣0️⃣0️⃣ different Qurans according CP‼
@pr70493 жыл бұрын
@K P Two turkish muslim scientists, professors, have examined all the oldest Quran fragments and manuscripts. Birmingham fragment contains surahs 19-21 only partially. These are preislamic stories of seven sleepers and Moses. The turkish scientists have concluded that there does not exist none fragment or manuscript from Mohammeds time, nor uthmans time, nor ibn Maliks time. Carbon dating hives is different thing than carbondating the text. For example in Sanaa fragment the turkish scientists found another text beneath with ultra violet light. The earlier text differs from the text above proving according them Quran developed, There was no finished text from Jennah tablet then. All the oldest Quran fragments are just small parts of Quran and whole manuscripts come a bit later. The texts are actually written 200-300 years after Mohammed. That does not differ from hadiths much. Even Hafs Quran has 7 variations today.
@khalmakh23693 жыл бұрын
According to your dream.
@pr70493 жыл бұрын
@@khalmakh2369 Your scolars: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d3_SZ5eOmJecY5I
@pr70493 жыл бұрын
@K P The hives are older than the text. Only the texts carbondateing is is scientifically significant not the hives. Tubingen is only small fragment and the muslim turkish scientists did not regard it even uthmanic fragment⚠️⚠️⚠️
@pr70493 жыл бұрын
@K P Watch your scolars explain kzbin.info/www/bejne/d3_SZ5eOmJecY5I
@craigmatchett69533 жыл бұрын
Dr Jay, it appears to me that the "god/idol" of allah is actually the spirit of pride and power. As a cult they idolise both. As a cult they highly value both. As a cult they seek both. Their version of paradise is made up of both. As a cult they DO NOT seek meekness, gentleness, servanthood, selflessness, sacrificial love, genuine fellowship. So their foundation is flawed, their religion is man focused, their god is hedonistic ... all equating to anti-Christ, anti YHWH.
@agape13253 жыл бұрын
Allah is a black stone 😀😀😀
@mohammedjamil22773 жыл бұрын
@@agape1325 moon god like in many muslim countries they have star and crescent on there flag ie Algeria Tunisia Morocco turkey and Pakistan. These are pagan symbols very striking and damning!💯
@agape13253 жыл бұрын
Taqqiya super 👌
@mohammedjamil22773 жыл бұрын
@@agape1325 ex Muslim from the uk
@agape13253 жыл бұрын
@@mohammedjamil2277 👍
@paulhodireff92603 жыл бұрын
Are there copyrights?
@cuteawais3 жыл бұрын
what u r doing is absolutely going to change the current muslims and their future generations; but only if your information gets to them. A lot of muslim dominant countries simply ban channels like youtube or anything that questions the mainstream narrative. I have a lot of faith in you along with other ex muslims who are doing their best to bring light to these islamic issues. You guys will succeed. Inshallah.
@andyb37203 жыл бұрын
Are there printed copies of the uthman Quran?
@josephcasley79793 жыл бұрын
Yes he wall killed reading it. It is not available for public consumption because it was not Hafs - the 1924.
@user-dq8gf3nm2h3 жыл бұрын
ഹല്ലേലുയ hallelujah
@user-dq8gf3nm2h3 жыл бұрын
@Layla Bartholomew me from Kerala,I have a youtube channel , defending faith
@Mikhail-fh8ms3 жыл бұрын
Dr Shabir Ally has no responded...one authentic Quran.
@JeaneBF3 жыл бұрын
Really!!! 100😳
@BINGOHINDI3 жыл бұрын
قَالَ ادْخُلُوا فِي أُمَمٍ قَدْ خَلَتْ مِن قَبْلِكُم مِّنَ الْجِنِّ وَالْإِنسِ فِي النَّارِ ۖ كُلَّمَا دَخَلَتْ أُمَّةٌ لَّعَنَتْ أُخْتَهَا ۖ حَتَّىٰ إِذَا ادَّارَكُوا فِيهَا جَمِيعًا قَالَتْ أُخْرَاهُمْ لِأُولَاهُمْ رَبَّنَا هَٰؤُلَاءِ أَضَلُّونَا فَآتِهِمْ عَذَابًا ضِعْفًا مِّنَ النَّارِ ۖ قَالَ لِكُلٍّ ضِعْفٌ وَلَٰكِن لَّا تَعْلَمُونَ (38) 38. ( Allâh ) will say: « Enter you in the company of nations who passed away before you, of men and jinn, into the Fire. » Every time a new nation enters, it curses its sister nation ( that went before ) until they will be gathered all together in the Fire. The last of them will say to the first of them: « Our Lord! These misled us, so give them a double torment of the Fire. » He will say: « For each one there is double ( torment ) , but you know not. » 39. The first of them will say to the last of them: « You were not better than us, so taste the torment for what you used to earn. » 40. Verily, those who belie Our Ayât ( proofs, evidence, verses, lessons, signs, revelations ) and treat them with arrogance, for them the gates of heaven will not be opened, and they will not enter Paradise until the camel goes through the eye of the needle ( which is impossible ) . Thus do We recompense the Mujrimûn ( criminals, polytheists and sinners ) . 41. Theirs will be a bed of Hell ( Fire ) , and over them coverings ( of Hell- fire ) . Thus do We recompense the Zâlimûn ( polytheists and wrong- doers ) . 42. But those who believed ( in the Oneness of Allâh - Islâmic Monotheism ) , and worked righteousness - We tax not any person beyond his scope - such are the dwellers of Paradise. They will abide therein. 43. And We shall remove from their breasts any ( mutual ) hatred or sense of injury ( which they had, if at all, in the life of this world ) ; rivers flowing under them, and they will say: « All the praises and thanks be to Allâh, Who has guided us to this, and never could we have found guidance, were it not that Allâh had guided us! Indeed, the Messengers of our Lord did come with the truth. » And it will be cried out to them: « This is the Paradise which you have inherited for what you used to do. »
@auliahanna2473 жыл бұрын
can it reach thousand cuz it's great to see it in larger number
@kotielombard47063 жыл бұрын
Why is it that when I watch your clips there is always a Ramadan or Muslim advertisement?
@chriseasterly51423 жыл бұрын
Because Muslims watch the channel. KZbin algorithms will play ads to the targeted audiences.
@chriseasterly51423 жыл бұрын
USA USA see above. Generally a lot of Muslims watch. KZbin is just playing the ads because the supermajority of people watching are Muslim. Not everyone is. I get the ads also.
@jimblack81043 жыл бұрын
What on earth is going on here🤔
@jimblack81043 жыл бұрын
K P I think you are missing the point. There are different variations of the Quran today. Uthman burned all the scriptures once he wrote his version so not even his version is the original. I have seen online very old scriptures and they are very similar to what is around today. Thanks for your input.
@jimblack81043 жыл бұрын
K P can you provide evidence for any false information please.
@jimblack81043 жыл бұрын
K P that’s not what the Hadith says I just says they were burned. This document you keep mentioning. Is it even the full Quran? I don’t think it is. I guess you can’t provide any evidence about false information in this video.
@donaltspartan7373 жыл бұрын
Jesus....😲 !!!
@mickyfinn93313 жыл бұрын
Every time I watch you videos I get an advert from Islam say how great the prophet is. Hopefully this draws our brothers to the one true God and his Son.
@beliveroneGod3 жыл бұрын
Two Quran fragments unknowingly held since 1936 in the University of Birmingham’s manuscript collection have been definitively dated to the era of Muhammad’s life. It is this last point of controversy that the Birmingham discovery illuminates. Clearly, Quranic verses with a very close match to the version we have today were being transcribed during the Prophet’s lifetime.
@aleksey44883 жыл бұрын
Come on Jay this is your chance 100 is good evidence to do any debates, stop hiding this information in your channel, your Christian followers are full about. We are waiting for this debate on pins and needles.
@josephcasley79793 жыл бұрын
He said the debaters will only debate whether in 1924 there was only one new version of the Koran. Otherwise the topic of whether there is one Koran will attract no interest. What with holes in the narrative and patches in the manuscripts.
@Billy_Mandalay3 жыл бұрын
You can't see how he's already debunked the claims of your false teachers thru these videos ? The ball is in THEIR court now. The onus is on THEM to prove that allah's 'pure' koran has NOT been corrupted by human hands. They CANNOT.
@aleksey44883 жыл бұрын
@@Billy_Mandalay He even did not show any different meaning Verse vs Verse, he must in this future debate, to show for the people just 2 different Qur'an, I see this is enough. If he wants to win Just show for Muslims how this vers have a different meaning than the other same verse, and what the effect that happened to the meaning of a full verse when the word is changed.
@Billy_Mandalay3 жыл бұрын
@@aleksey4488 Some of it were shown in the other videos. Keep looking.
@aleksey44883 жыл бұрын
@@Billy_Mandalay Can you copy the exact time where he has shown the differential of verses?
@abukhamis93293 жыл бұрын
102. Do those who disbelieve think that they can take My servants for masters instead of Me? We have prepared Hell for the hospitality of the faithless. 103. Say, “Shall We inform you of the greatest losers in their works?” 104. “Those whose efforts in this world are misguided, while they assume that they are doing well.” 105. It is they who rejected the communications of their Lord, and the encounter with Him. So their works are in vain. And on the Day of Resurrection, We will consider them of no weight. 106. That is their requital-Hell-on account of their disbelief, and their taking My revelations and My messengers in mockery. 107. As for those who believe and do righteous deeds, they will have the Gardens of Paradise for hospitality. 108. Abiding therein forever, without desiring any change therefrom. 109. Say, “If the ocean were ink for the words of my Lord, the ocean would run out, before the words of my Lord run out,” even if We were to bring the like of it in addition to it. 110. Say, “I am only a human being like you, being inspired that your god is One God. Whoever hopes to meet his Lord, let him work righteousness, and never associate anyone with the service of his Lord.”
@fariakabir72623 жыл бұрын
I think Bible has more and more updates then windows10🤣🤣🤣
@gamer2popspops9703 жыл бұрын
Thanks to God, it’s not a problem for me, because even with there being different versions of the Qur’ân, like those of Ḥafṣ and Warsh, it’s not impossible to find out the correct version, by closely analysing the passages within them.
@gamer2popspops9703 жыл бұрын
Ḥafṣ: 3: 146) And many a Prophet qâṫal (قَـاتَـل \ قٰـتَـل, fought) and, along with him, many ribbîyûn (religious, learned men). But they never lost heart for that which did befall them in the Way of Allâh, nor did they weaken nor degrade themselves. And Allâh loves the Patient Ones. 147) And they said nothing but: “Our Lord! Forgive us our sins and our transgressions, establish our feet firmly, and give us victory over the disbelieving folk.” 148) So Allâh gave them the reward of the World, and excellent the reward of the Hereafter. And Allâh loves the Good-doers. Warsh: 3: 146) And many a Prophet quṫil (قُـتِـل, were killed) and, along with him, many ribbîyûn (religious, learned men). But they never lost heart for that which did befall them in the Way of Allâh, nor did they weaken nor degrade themselves. And Allâh loves the Patient Ones. 147) And they said nothing but: “Our Lord! Forgive us our sins and our transgressions, establish our feet firmly, and give us victory over the disbelieving folk.” 148) So Allâh gave them the reward of the World, and excellent the reward of the Hereafter. And Allâh loves the Good-doers. The subsequent Verses show that the Prophets (عليهم الصّلاة والسّلام) did not get killed, but were granted worldly victory over their enemies, so Ḥafṣ' version of the Qur’ân is correct and Warsh' version is wrong, at least in this case, so truly, Allâh has preserved the Qur’ân, even if different versions exist, like He preserved it before Caliph `Uthmân burned versions of the Qur’ân in dialects of Arabic other than the Qurayshî dialect (which he and the Prophet Muḥammad (صلّى ٱلله عليه وآله وسلّم) spoke in, therefore, this is the dialect in which the Qur’ân was revealed), so as to preserve the Qur’ân in its authentic dialect of Arabic. Let people properly read Ḥafṣ' and Warsh' versions, to see which ones contain the right words of the Qur’ân, and which ones contain words that are not in the actual Qur’ân, by reading them Verse-by-Verse, like I did.
@user-dq8gf3nm2h3 жыл бұрын
Hai, dr jay I too am a youtuber defending faith but not as big as you, a drop in ocean
@mexrobert35633 жыл бұрын
What???!!# Wowwww...~
@potentialmaxed49433 жыл бұрын
Look at this kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4Glfol4YqaIma8 This guy doesn't know what he is talking about.
@lovetruth7253 жыл бұрын
what a chaotic school of thought...?
@futuremillionaire47473 жыл бұрын
Well... let’s just say that the standard narrative has holes in it