DID IT SUCK? | Doctor Who [Evolving Daleks In Manhattan MEGA REVIEW]

[@lukeskywalker8543]

"This is America, JUST GIVE HER A BLOODY GUN!" Harry-2019

[@funnycreature2331]

-Which would be incredibly expensive and difficult to obtain in the time setting. Yeah sure, psychic paper could get a bank to hand over money, but it'd be time consuming to travel into the city etc.

[@nightowl8477]

@@funnycreature2331 - well i mean they had guns just laying about.

[@thatonedude]

@@nightowl8477 who said they want to give her a gun? It could be given to anyone. Why her.

[@bendream544]

@@thatonedude because she only had a stick remember? Pay attention dude.....aargh who cares it was utter rubbish. Two wasted episodes worth! .

[@funnycreature2331]

@@nightowl8477 have you ever shot a gun? If so, remeber your first time shooting. It's not something that you just pick up and it takes time and effort to be able to hit moving targets reliably, Martha lives in London as a nurse, shes probably never seen a gun. Also, why would she need a gun? It's made quite prevalent that the dalek doesn't care about bullets.

[@marilynmalone1381]

4:13 no, he didn't "abandon" his family, his parents didn't have enough to feed themselves and so he HAD to go. It's quite simple, they had to feed the rest of the family and him being the oldest, he had to make his own way in the world.

[@sorrenblitz805]

Finding it kinda hard to understand why he couldn't provide for himself without becoming a hobo like why couldn't he find a way to help his parents?

[@BIONICLECLAYPOKEMON]

@@sorrenblitz805 There's another comment breaking it down, but The Great Depression was an awful time; in some situations, the benefit of an extra pair of working hands in communities severely struck by the Dustbowl [Not a famine, per-se, but a period of aggressive crop and soil failure which occured during The Great Depression] did not outweigh the cost of having to feed, clothe, and shelter another individual.

[@maddythehunter1025]

The reason he didn't suggest to send them back to their families is because of the question he asked Sec beforehand. He asked him if the memories of all the hybrids could be given back, but Sec told him no, making it basically like sending a dog's excavated head back to the families of someone who lost their dog.

[@rollingon5566]

I think someone with incredibly severe Alzheimer's is a better comparison

[@nifralo2752]

@@rollingon5566 no a lobotomy

[@Leon_Tyler]

it is dumb, but I like it. for some reason I like the characters, I love the creativity and I love the bit where the doctor loses his sonic and is helplessly trying to pull off the panels, it's a proper 10th doctor watchmojo top 10 moment. it's dumb but it's got a lot of charm... like love and monsters!

[@YourBeingParanoid]

Children's episode to sell xmas toys - and it worked. I prefer this to anything from the current junk Dr who has turned into 6/10

[@obgaming109]

Same

[@Pun1sher69]

I give this an 8/10 because the characters are good and the Dalek s plan to convert humans into dalek s now there is something that I don’t like how the dalek s killed sec just because he wanted the doctor to help them

[@dalek4463]

We don’t talk about Love and Monsters

[@JordanGrimmer]

"Dalek Caan, more like Dalek Can't" shouldn't have made me laugh but here we are.

[@TheSmart-CasualGamer]

It's Caan. Not Khan.

[@TheIshikawaRin]

@@TheSmart-CasualGamer I thought it was Khan wtf

[@TheSmart-CasualGamer]

@@TheIshikawaRin Could be worse. The card game called Dalek Jast, Dalek Rabe.

[@etanu8308]

@@TheIshikawaRin i thought it was khan as well whaaaaaaaaaat lol

[@robertpercival1790]

Dalek Caan? more like Garlic Naan

[@mpg272727]

Remember when the 12th doctor went on about the Hybrid, saying a half human half dalek hybrid could never happen? Even the BBC forgot about this episode

[@karkatvantas9557]

"The hybrid is not a half-dalek. Nothing is a half-dalek. The daleks would never allow that." The daleks turned on the half-dalek immediately. They didn't allow it.

[@libertyadams5961]

@@karkatvantas9557 true

[@Gengu]

Wasn't it half time lord not human

[@minepose98]

@@Gengu The Hybrid was stated to be a hybrid of two warrior races.

[@MistaFisto]

I though it was half man half dalekpig or was it half mandalek half pig

[@alexandriahunter2125]

For a being who never seems to have sex, the Doctor sure puts his DNA into a lot of people.

[@treymcdermott6414]

Ok you can say that it’s bad but how dare you be dissin “You put the Devil in me” that S L A P S

[@meris8486]

The version in the show is bad, the soundtrack version is great

[@WithADashOfPazazz]

when it popped up in the end of time i was like WHEEYYYYYY! 😂

[@Thomas_of_the_forest]

@@meris8486 agree the soundtrack version is better (and an awesome song) but the show version is decent

[@billycrook3662]

THANK YOU

[@spicus446]

4:05 During the great depression, the eldest children would sometimes leave so the rest of the household could have enough supplies. It was particularly prevalent in situations where the costs of another mouth outweighed the gains of another pair of hands (like during the crop failures of the Dustbowl.) These "hobos" would usually hop on trains illegally and ride the rails to look for work (spoilers, they usually didn't)

[@21700r]

"Like a Lady" doesn't mean "Like a female", it means a noblewoman, a Lady of the peerage

[@SNSWoTClan]

Him not knowing what a Lady is and complaining about it among other things just as bad in this video makes think CinemaSins wrote the script for this one.

[@alicesophie123]

Honestly tho, like that was such a weirdly stupid line from him??

[@serixskylark]

9:49 I can’t stop laughing at this screenshot Jesus Christ Just _NYOOOOM_

[@serixskylark]

Emma Feustel HWHAHAHAHHS

[@SoftPillowWithAKnife]

𝙎𝙣𝙞𝙛𝙛 𝙨𝙣𝙞𝙛𝙛 I smell a possible meme template

[@Iapetus7849]

The song called "You put the devil in me" is not that bad to be honest. It's just that in this episode it was performed ON STAGE by the actress and then it got abridged in post production

[@2dtrash19]

11:37 Wouldn't they be unable to fit through the tiny manhole cover?

[@rollingon5566]

I know it's incredibly stupid but I love it compared to literally any dalek story post series 4. Like they actually have an idea. something to say, a somewhat 3rd dimensional villian, but the presentation. Oof

[@Jokie155]

The Magician's Apprentice/Witch's Familiar, Into the Dalek.

[@hoovybear8642]

I remember watching this episode as a kid, and with my name being "Laszlo", I thought that this episode somehow knew who I was. Gonna love being a stupid kid.

[@TheDanishGuyReviews]

That's honestly fair, considering how rare that name is.

[@gittingerandris7154]

@@TheDanishGuyReviews It is Hungarian, so yeah it is rare ( it is my middle name

[@abavendarlocke5455]

Dalek Sex. That's what I'm hearing. I can't not hear it.

[@etanu8308]

no no no no no no nonononononononon-

[@baronvonlimbourgh1716]

The subtitels also say dalek sex.

[@thestuffoflegend1320]

With the bit with the Doctor screaming at the Daleks to kill him, it sort of makes sense in regards to when the last time he met them he'd lost Rose and it ties in when in Daleks in Manhattan he says "they survive they always survive while I loose everything". Think about it you've not only lost your planet and your people to these things but they resulted in you loosing the woman you love as well; of course he'd be dealing with some emotions during this whole ordeal and I feel at this point he's just bloody sick of them so offering up himself as a sacrifice makes some sense.

[@oliver_burnell8684]

I always loved these episodes. Probably nostalgia 😂. I do think the prosthetics on the Pigmen and Human Dalek are really good, along with the music from Gold

[@flaviusbelisarius7517]

6:41 It clearly means Lady as in the title and not the lady we just call every woman these days. It's the same root as Ladylike.

[@dylancohen9201]

Always thought introducing a character by them breaking a loaf in two and calling them Soloman was a bit on the nose

[@TheSmart-CasualGamer]

I love this two-parter. I love it. Always have, always will. And The Dalek Sec Hybrid's head's tentacle things were all motorized. All SIX of them. It's very impressive stuff. And the Doctor goes along with Sec's plan as he's really confused. He still sees him as a Dalek, but one who's not evil. They also took Sec with them because HE'S A DALEK SCIENTIST! If they left him underground with Dalek Caan, he'd quite possibly escape!

[@Malice-and-tragedy]

I think they setting in the 30s was only for the tower part

[@TheSmart-CasualGamer]

Works though doesn't it? Imagine basing it in the architecture from the 60s? NOBODY likes 60s standard architecture.

[@WithADashOfPazazz]

i always thougt that the doctor never intended to go to the slums of new new york OR new york, the tardis sometimes doesnt go exactly where you want to go.

[@MiniatureRanni]

Finally, a review of Daleks in Manhattan that isn't just "DALEK SEC LOOKS WEIRD LOL"

[@SwfanredLotr]

I actually loved this story arc since it tried to put the villians in a desperate situation to the point that they would try new creative methods to survive. Its really sad that Dalek Sec got the short end of the stick since he began to become more symphathetic and was able to see the problems with the Dalek mindset. If only they had let him survive, he could've become a potential companion for the Doctor, who he considered his equal.

[@hammerofpraxis9646]

You dont seem to understand how genuinely devastating the great depression was

[@GuineaPigEveryday]

This is one of the episodes i remember most vividly as a kid, i remember all the scenes as well and the dialogue. Idk why, it was just so creative and engaging as a kid to see these kind of ideas, and it was quite dumbed down so easy to follow too.

[@Pendleton115]

11:35 the Daleks couldnt get up the ladder because the man hole cover was obviously too small for a Dalek to fit through, even if they can fly.

[@funnycreature2331]

I think you shat on the episode too much and some of the break downs didn't really make much sense. In particular the worrying dalek and the thing with the guy in the flap cap. I know it's a silly review and everything, but it felt a little mean spiritde like a grudge almost, rather then charming as with other vids.

[@tristansteinbomer3256]

U have a good point. I rate this episode 8/10 Mainly because it had Martha in it, if she wasn't in this episode then I'd rate it 9/10 I find Martha as kinda an annoying brat. She's mean anytime someone mentioned Rose, when she left the doctor she joined UNITS military task force (which if course uses guns something the doctor doesn't like) And when Martha met Rose she was kinda mean to her. Atleast Rose and Sarah Jane became friends after the had a argument, Martha just kinda got stuck on hating Rose

[@WithADashOfPazazz]

​@@tristansteinbomer3256she's not mean everytime rose is mentioned she is rightfully annoyed at mkst rose mentions being paired with a disparaging comment aimed at her. as for unit it was the doctor himself who got her the job in the first place and she tells him thay she does not use guns. if he didn't want her in a military environment, why make her work there? and your last point is just not true. maybe you need to rewatch. when martha sees rose for the first time she literally says "oh my god he found you." she was happy for them both and the pair even share a hug.

[@elberno4243]

"More like Dalek Khan't" - LMFAO

[@FilthyTrot]

I thought that I was going to watch an analysis into the episode that delves into its pros, as well as its cons and not a TV sins video.

[@funkytikigod7039]

I remember really enjoying the dynamics between Dalek Sec and the rest of the Cult of Skaro in this episode

[@jimslav6973]

The thing about living in New York is you quickly realize 99% of "New York" scenes in movies and television are actually filmed in New York-like cities like Vancouver. Even quintessential films like Annie Hall have scenes where they're talking at the arch on 14th Street in Washington Square Park, turn the corner, and are suddenly 40 blocks north at Central Park. But who cares? So many movies are set here that the bad accents and sets from Daleks Take Manhattan really don't bother us. It's just for fun.

[@Wishdreamerx]

I remember actually wanting Dalek Sek's plan to work, with the new Dalek race moving to a new planet, thus rooting against Martha trying to figure out what the Daleks put on top of the building. Dalek Sek deserved much more! I too had this moment at the end of the episode of: ''so that's what the Face of Boe meant! A new Time Lord ra... oh, and they're dead.''

[@laughercake3156]

Don't you fuckin' dare be bad-mouthing 42

[@XanderWhovian]

I kinda think that you're being needlessly harsh towards this episode. Yes it's got flaws, but there were many things that you twisted into something negative. 1. Frank didn't abandon his family in desperate times, he was strong enough and noble enough to realize that he was getting to be a burden on family resources, and left to fend for himself, so that the rest of his family might be able to live semi-comfortably. 2. Well, Solomon is shown to be a sort of clever man, so you can probably say that he realized that despite the doctor having an english accent, there's a bit more to him than that. 3. I mean, just because Tallulah is a lady, doesn't mean that people have treated her like one, she's definitely got that character that implies she's no stranger to being treated like dirt. And even if you disagree, you can't assume that she's not endured grotty little haters in her life. 4. In the episode, they mention that the human shells are completely empty, everything that they were has been irreversibly lost. So the doctor just made the best of a bad situation. Even if they can't restore the shells, he feels that sec's plan is the next best thing. i do think you did make some pretty good points, though. One that stands out to me was how they only brought pig slaves up to deal with the doctor, martha and "the pig and the showgirl." One of the Daleks could find another way up, and fly up to the doctor from ground level, and the doctor could have a climactic showdown on top of the empire state building with the dalek. The Dalek firing at him and the doctor taking cover behind various bits of scaffolding. In the end, the dalek is (somehow) defeated, with it's "elevate" malfunctioning, and it plummets from the top of the empire state building to it's explosive death down below. That would have been awesome to see. P.S. at 12:58, you've just inadvertantly proved that david tennant does a much better "do it" than Shia.

[@SwfanredLotr]

Thank you. I also felt this review was way too harsh.

[@benjaminadams1918]

Americans are just as tired of seeing New York but it's always fun to see the Doctor in America for us

[@izzyfedeli7214]

I actually really like this episode and the plot and characters I think it’s really creative lol

[@raptyrn1290]

8:32 DID IT VORE?

[@E.K939]

"Dalek speach" we can go up stairs but we are still working on the ladder modules. Pleace don't interfere.

[@Rognik]

I'm a bid disappointed Garfield didn't get turned into a hybrid. Then I could've made a Spider-Pig joke. Alas...

[@masonwells990]

I just realized your name was changed to "haunted house" and I love it, the video is 10/10 as allways

[@dominickeijzer5844]

I find it funny that, after leaving the British Empire, America would make the EMPIRE state building.

[@piplup2009]

A neat concept with a hybrid dalek being controlled with human emotions to the point where dalek sec would pass off as a real human, if it wasn't for the silly looking head

[@scottmiles824]

Didn’t realise how crazy this two parter was😅 Tbf I really like the talk The Doctor has with the Daleks towards the end

[@danielfox8383]

Unironically these are my two favourite episodes in all the show. Also poor Sec needs a hug

[@sam_4481]

one thing that really annoys me about these episodes is that they refer to the slum as "Hooverville" as if that's its name and theres no other hooverville which is stupid because in the depression era, ALL of the slums were called Hoovervilles, so they should really call it "THE Hooverville". it's such a little thing but I find it so annoying

[@retrogamelover2012]

Honestly, I kind of wonder if the series could ever try and touch upon the whole hybridization concept from these episodes again, and potentially do more with it. Like say, at some point other daleks eventually find the remnants of dalek Sec's experiment and try to use it with differing results and goals, depending on those daleks in question.

[@emperorpicard6474]

4:04 I didn't realize spider man was in doctor who.

[@jordanadams3622]

i for one, quite enjoyed this episode of doctor who, personally i found interactions of the characters toi be quite epic, i would recommend this eopisode to my friends, who may have not seen the show before, thank you for your time

[@genesismagimash]

I actually liked this episode... A lot I guess I'm in the minority, but I found some parts quite compelling, although that might just be because I love Dalek Sec and found the finale to be quite an enjoyable ride. It is cheesy, it is silly, but I found it enjoyable in a way that I didnt find in episodes like love and monsters - There was an effort here to make a good episode, and though the scripring isn't great and the acting is only just passable, the concept of Sec reallising that he needs to evolve and the final showdown were really cool imo.

[@LostJourneyUnderClouds]

Thank you for including Shia for that "DO IT" scene, magnificent 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@Laura-ti2tm]

I laughed out loud so many times, I sprayed my screen with tea. I actually liked this 2 parter 😂 but loved your hilarious take on it❤

[@mrflibble1259]

Are we getting a Lazarus review? I actually really like that episode, always have

[@N3RDYG0GGLES]

I honestly expected you to completely despise this Dalek story and find nothing good about it considering the hate it gets, so your somewhat balance between honest criticism and praising what was interesting about my literal favourite two-parter left me pleasantly surprised. To me there are reasons for some of the weird stuff that goes on (though not all of it) and what always impressed me was just how much Loren’s performance got to me as Dalek Sec. He does a lot of subtle things such as the very gradual change in the way he speaks and the use of certain words even compared with the Doctor. He’s probably the smartest and definitely he most artistic Dalek there is, so seeing those emotions change him to the point where what the Doctor calls gene solution, he poetically calls “the life blood”, is really interesting. Apparently it was his choice to even do that voice as the hybrid, because he was originally told he could just use his normal voice and didn’t think that sounded right. Also in Frank’s defence, back in the day lots of older kids of families leave home to find work so that their family doesn’t have to feed them too, and often send money home if they can. Aaaaaaand the soundtrack music called Evolution of the Daleks has Hebrew lyrics that apparently mean “What is going on Sec” which was hilarious.

[@mahino420]

the reason the doctor didnt revive them and send them back is that dalek human told him their memories are wiped or something of that sort.

[@MarkverseYT]

I didn’t realise that was Andrew Garfield, now I’ll never look at Spider-Man or this episode the same thing again

[@JOCoStudio1]

Maybe that's what Dalek Sec meant by sacrifices- they all got stung! I have no idea why I found that so funny.

[@ZWtcp]

Every time Dalek Sec's name was followed by an s-sound I had to resist the urge to laugh

[@tommoolenaar3901]

The bit when sec consumes that guy honestly fucked me up.

[@msredfox]

I love the editing to this video, lmao

[@jemimajust827]

can you PLEASE do a review of silence in the library/ Forrest of the dead??

[@dominickeijzer5844]

I think the reason the Daleks didn't ascend with the main lot is because the GAP WAS TOO SMALL.

[@CineScarborough]

I still really like this two parter. Dalek stories are great.

[@TheDoctorOfThrills]

Okay but it is accurate that he would abandon his family. The dust bowl occurred in these times, and people would just up and leave because it was so bad to live there

[@malmwest1832]

human dalek used to terrify me, and lowkey, it still does

[@saskruffriders8234]

The pig slaves don’t give chase to The Doctor. Kinda like in Zygon Inversion, where “Bonnie” attempts to shoot down the Dr, the Dr survives with parachutes and then NO Zygon gives chase and just let’s him get in a car??

[@dalekemperor1984]

The Doctor does suggest reviving the humans but Dalek Sec says that everything human was lost.

[@bendream544]

That Tallulah creature borders very closely on Bonnie bastard Langford when she did her impersonations of Shirley Temple in the 70's and you cannot get worse T.V than that (except other Bonnie bastard Langford shows!)

[@jeffblimsfalcetto3748]

"that Tallulah creature" is so accurate

[@pantasaron9253]

tallulah also called the doctor a hot potato in a sharp suit

[@destendgem]

Looking at the sewer hole, yeah the Daleks weren't getting through their. Why didn't they send the pigs? Good question.

[@reecechambers9818]

the fake fun thing happens a few times to foreshadow the gun in the finale the master thinks martha is making

[@thgesocnegekoska3356]

"Fry up his hair" dont fucking touch david's hair...

[@SpagTheDwarf]

Dont you mean. Did it *SUCC?*

[@martinmaguire-music6692]

Did it *SECC* ?

[@samuelbarber4154]

I did like this episode, but I didn't see it as that good. One thing I found was that the 1930s New York setting wasn't really important to the story, it was just a backdrop.

[@EyrieVOD]

That RadioTimes cover always stuck with me after getting spoiled, I remember my friends and I always speculating on what episodes will be about and that ruined it for me that week :/

[@heygamers7918]

whenever i hear that dalek sec human theme i just hear 'IT'S A HOO-MAN DA-LEK!'

[@matthewsmeets]

Doctor Griffin in Who, just as funny as whittaker being a doctor in 'Trust Me'

[@lukemcellin8736]

16:06 im not mentally prepared for a bald Tennant

[@randomcomentor16]

I honestly can't hate this episode (seeing as it was the first episode of Doctor who I ever watched).

[@SkibbidyYibbidy]

*Sniiffffsssss* UGGGGHHHHH thats the content I needed

[@Xegethra]

This is why Daleks suck. "We don't emote" *Is emoting immediately thereafter* "Emotionless" characters are always flawed, they always emote, they have to or they don't do anything, have goals.

[@bondfall0072]

I think the only time I've seen an emotionless character work was Yugi nagato from The Meloncholy of Haruhi Suzumiya. They play it completely straight that she's an an alien with no emotions.

[@FortoFight]

Tuvok from Star Trek Voyager is a decent one

[@bondfall0072]

@@FortoFight I forgot about Tuvok. Oops

[@bendream544]

@@FortoFight this is Dr.Who not trekkie territory!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@leejones8582]

Nearly 100 years later and buildings are more important than the homelessness look at Manchester Town Hall and the Homeless problem.

[@johnashley327]

I'm glad Andrew didn't use that accent as Spiderman.😂

[@krathoon2338]

He probably wasn't wearing any gloves because it was the Depression.

[@atomicvinylreviews3420]

I honestly love these episodes

[@TheKingMgee]

God I wish David Tennant would put his DNA in me.

[@edwardslater2252]

Its kinda freaky I decided to watch these two episodes earlier today then this just came out! XD

[@rakhshas6727]

The reason he put on gloves was because Dalek sec originally wasn't going to have monster hands..

[@drconners5103]

I can’t believe spiderman is in this two parter

[@PedroGBSilva]

The thing is, I know it's bad, but I just like it

[@The_Eyes_Have_It]

That time Spider-Man got merc'd by Pig-Man 😂

[@camedy902]

YES!! please keep these videos coming

[@joecowell8188]

Have you done a did it suck for silence in the library/forest of the dead)

[@TommyLednorMusic]

1:54 - I’m confused as to why you think Martha should have a problem w the Doctor taking her to NY… is it bc of the story before being set in NNY?

[@bobbimorse8460]

2:19 llandaf fields, cardiff, wales*

[@flashstudiosguy]

"Central Park" was more than likely Cardiff Park

[@lucifersdevilishdetails.]

Not only dose he put on gloves he dose it twice

[@berserkasaurusrex4233]

I totally forgot Andrew Garfield was in this.

[@fromthethirdplanet]

Talula IS WONDERFUL, PERFECT AND ADORABLE

[@NICKatronMC]

5:05 This edit made me laugh, I won’t lie