DID IT SUCK? | Doctor Who [TIME OF THE DOCTOR REVIEW]

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[@RoboDoesEdits]

16:07 The gran comes back in Series 8 to comfort Clara after Danny gets hit by a car and dies

[@HOTD108_]

18:31 It's not infinite regenerations. The Doctor says explicitly before fully regenerating into the Twelve that it's a "whole new regeneration cycle", which would mean it's just 13 new regenerations because ever since the 1970s it's been established that one cycle is 13. And yes, I am ignoring the Timeless Child, because if Chris Chibnail is going to ignore 60 years of character history for no reason then it's only fair we ignore his brainrot.

[@Jaeden_Phoenix]

Then Rassilon said in Hell Bent "I wonder how many lives we gave you?", implying they're not sure how many new regenerations he got.

[@jackstuhley1745]

You dont even have to ignore the Timeless Child because it's implied the Doctor got Chameleon Circuited into a Time Lord biology, with the 13-body limit included.

[@miloadhami6954]

I think there was a missed opportunity for series 7 about the doctor being mortal due to having no more regenerations it would’ve been a good concept

[@blueberrycranberrycherry]

Saying the silence are just dangled memberberries is dumb. We literally got a solid conclusion and answers to the silence story. Doing the enemies to allies trope but actually in a cool way. and it was fucking badass that scene of him walking with some of them swinging his cane come on

[@greendiamond2604]

Don't blame moffat for the timeless child bullcrap, all he did was reintroduce the concept of giving more regenerations, letting it be unspecified but might just be 12 more.

[@sanddagger36]

Trenzalore is the problem with this whole season of Doctor Who. I don't think they planned to revisit it so soon after "name of the doctor" but i'm pretty sure Moffit was just trying to wrap up all lose threads before the next season because he was not sure who was returning. Matt Smith didn't return but Moffit and Jenna Colman did, which meant rushing the impossible girl arc did not pay off. However, how they solved Matt Smith leaving wasn't much better. They had previously introduced Trenzalore as the death of the doctor, which meant it should've stayed that way and just never come up again because the series would never end and the doctor would never die, but not knowing if Moffit himself would return he decided to solve the regeneration issue along with his death of the doctor issue. But then he made Trenzalore a prairie town with nothing special about it. The doctor lived there for 300+ years. Are you telling me technology did not develop at all in that time? I get that there is a budget and a time limit, but all they had to do was split it into a two part episode, perhaps even have Matt regenerate on a cliff hanger and have Capaldi resolve everything in episode 1 of the next season. Again, lack of foresight to know who was returning prevented them from taking this route.

[@jackstuhley1745]

It's hard for technology and infrastructure to advance when you're constantly under siege and have a blockade separating you from the rest of the universe. I agree about making it a two-parter though, you could have ended the first half on a cliffhanger with the revelation that the planet he just stranded himself on was Trenzalore.

[@doodoo5594]

i think parts of this episode are really cool conceptually, it always just reminds me how much potential moffat’s era had to tell a really interesting looped story about how the doctor creates the silence to protect the time lords after DoTD and over time the message becomes skewed and they end up as zealots tryna kill him, like wedding of river song had the chance to give time of the doctor a massive lay up, but instead moffat decided to kill off madam kovarian and forego any potential foreshadowing in that episode

[@joelsoetendorp3279]

There seemed to be a point where moffatt was making Dr who without peril and sherlock without mysteries

[@xproflipscarab]

Fair criticisms throughout but damn dude... Smith's send off scene is one of my favourite moments in Doctor who... 11 and Pond are near peak doctor who for me... To have the actors reunite for a final scene especially after Clara's mediocre run was really touching... I dunno how to put it into words, Matt Smith and Karen Gillan's journey through the show just feel really special to me compared to the rest of the companions. Not to mention Smith just fucking kills it with the beautifully written speech about change...

[@reeceemms1643]

I think the recapping is for just encase you forgot about the stuff. Remember there was all of season 6 between then and now. Plus also probably for new comers just to bring them up to speed. Though I also heard the original idea was to make the Siege of Trenzalor was meant to be a series.

[@Frank-Einstein-Madman]

*This episode certainly had it's faults but it's a billion times better than anything post Capaldi!* ❤

[@HOTD108_]

It's so funny that people are now acting like the quality of writing during Capaldi's wasn't already in the toilet just because what followed happened to be even worse. Getting set on fire is certainly worse than having your legs broken, but that doesn't mean getting your legs broken is suddenly good. Don't get me wrong here, Capaldi as the Doctor is fantastic, possibly my favourite Doctor tbh, but everything else around him is such a wet blanket. Chibnail took that wet blanket and wiped his ass on it and kicked all our dogs, which is a million times worse, but a wet blanket is still a wet blanket.

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[@mickieg1994]

​@HOTD108_ I'm in 100% agreement, capaldi wad such a stunning actor he could spin anything into gold, even so his seasons were weak, the writing just wasn't good enough.

[@Frank-Einstein-Madman]

@@HOTD108_ Your comment sums up everything!!!

[@neilgodwin6531]

So many issues... Handles is cute and fun, but Cybermen are not robots, they are cyborgs. Without a human brain, Handles would be an inert lump of machinery. Why the Dalek eyestalks? Seems to be a Leitmotif, with the Doctor waving one around for no discernible reason, on a ship he doesn't recognise. Why would humanoids with two functional eyes need a retractable eyestalk? What function does it serve. Other than telling the viewers this is a Dalek slave. The Robomen of the 60's were better realised, the TV version was actually scary. (They were not played for comic effect, as in the movie). Instead of an eyestalk, an implant appearing would be better. Then we have the wooden Cyberman. How does the network of electrical impulses that controls the neural network of humans, and the network of electrical impulses that control electronic machines work through wood? Spoiler. It doesn't. Worst of all, previously it took 6 Time Lords to pilot a Tardis, properly (Journey's End). Now one woman can pilot it better than the Doctor.

[@aaron2k026]

0:21 I can spot the Knights of Cydonia intro from miles away😎

[@BobPsomiadis]

I thought this should have been split into two episodes .Too many good ideas were squashed together in one episode .

[@LoneGh0ste]

This episode didn’t make the Doctor immortal, that was Chibnall with the Timeless Children. This episode gave him a new regeneration cycle with an indefinite number of regenerations. This means that the show could’ve kept going for as long or as little as it needed. If they decided to end the show at Capaldi they could’ve said the time lords only granted him the one extra regeneration. If they decided the show needed to end 5 doctors later, that could’ve been the number. The fact we didn’t know how many lives were left opened a lot of possibilities and I’d argue lent more stakes to regeneration before Chibnall wrecked it. The Timeless Children robbed regeneration of all stakes and Russel’s bigeneration robbed it of all finality and drama. I’d say all moffat did here was renew the show and actually provide more uncertainty about the doctor’s future that other writers could’ve capitalized on but didn’t. Ik you’re not too big on moffat as showrunner but I’d say his hands are clean of this particular crime, imo the way he handled this restriction (which was never actually a hard rule in the classic show, only the revived show interpreted it that way) kept things open for future showrunners to iterate on and it’s the BBC’s incompetence of hiring old men and past showrunners that’s led to the show’s downfall. Even if you don’t like his era, I think moffat did the most to keep the show evergreen out of any modern showrunner.

[@Limes_not_Lemons]

Honestly this episode is pretty meh, but the open ended-ness of his new regeneration cycle was incredible. It broke the rules but established new ones. That's the problem with The Timeless Child, we don't know the rules so it's harder to believe. The new cycle is normal regenerations but we don't know the number, he could die for real any time, that's honestly more exciting than knowing how many numbers he has left before they have to break the rules again. I don't hate the idea of The Timeless Child, I just hate how easy it's become to make The Doctor immortal. There's no established limitations, there's no rules. As much as too much explanation can ruin things, not enough explaining ruined it even more

[@timtheenchanter265]

Don’t think the timeless child makes the Doctor immortal. Is it not fairly explicit that once the division mind wiped them the regeneration cap was set for hartnell. It’s a bad decision but not really for a lore reason, if anything it doesn’t change enough. This revelation means literally nothing for the character of the Doctor.

[@timtheenchanter265]

Also pretty sure it was a hard rule in the classic era, at least by the mid-baker years.

[@Voltaic_Fire]

I truly do miss Doctor Who, I watched it for decades and thought it was going to be there for more. It was the singular show I paid the TV license for but now it is just a memory and the reason the BBC doesn't get my £150 a year. At least I get to occasionally watch these videos, watching something you love with a new person is very close to watching it again for the first time yourself.

[@purefoldnz3070]

even Matt Smith was disappointed with it.

[@theentity5201]

Clara rocking a killer black leather skirt, she's been taking notes from tegan in 84'😅

[@KutayYavuz]

I hate this episode because I still can’t get over the fact that we spent 50 years with the Doctor becoming 1200 years old and all of a sudden, after one episode, he is 2000. The writers trying to play god for the series sucks. Oh also, after The Timeless Children, none of the stuff about the 12 regenerations matter anymore. They ruined it.

[@Synthpopper]

Such a weird era, but imo it's all uphill from here until the end of s10

[@shahnazbibi7086]

The VFX & CGI are fantastic

[@leejones8582]

The episode is a mess but the regeneration speech always makes me cry.

[@joelsoetendorp3279]

One of the things I find baffling is Moffat writes some of the sharpest most disciplined scripts like Blink. Where by setting up rules anyone can grasp he writes not only great who, but stuff anyone could love. Then he writes this Incoherent it's all a fairy tale garbage. Mixing sub sitcom jokes in. I think a similar thing happened to Douglas Adams and most other show runners. There's something odd and poisonous in working for the BBC I suspect

[@patrickrowland3932]

Matt wasn't given infinite here just 1 more cycle Chibnall is the one who mentioned infinite

[@SPM0717]

No, in Hell Bent, Rassilon says "How many regenerations did we grant you?" so even he doesn't know.

[@qfnoyvoy6353]

Still think the little speech 11 gives about change to be one of the best bits of NuWho

[@matthewbolitho-jones]

I like The Time of the Doctor

[@davidmyers2912]

Come on Harry. The truth field emanated from the crack and the Time Lords not the papal mainframe. The truth field was there long before the papal mainframe arrived.

[@Mzdiva924]

I never liked this episode. I’ve watched it once and never went back. Mind you, I’ve watched this show numerous times.

[@steelbarber]

Harry you certainly can’t ruin an episode of Doctor who for me lol

[@thomascampbell2669]

Its Interesting to note the reuse of the 'Four knocks' theme from The End Of Time in this ep. I loved it at the time but it's definitely as effective here as in 2009.

[@thomascampbell2669]

I do recall good reuse of Tennant special themes in The Day of the Doctor (Altering Lives)

[@jackstuhley1745]

Good call. I think my favorite reuse of the music from the End of Time was how Gold incorporated the motif of "The World Waits" into the track "The Sun's Gone Wibbly" from The Eleventh Hour.

[@vortexalliance9938]

The episode not perfect but you were too harsh with lot of the points, just felt like you was just trying to be only negative

[@noneya3635]

This just rounded out a stupid couple of seasons of fairytale doctor Who with a nuclear regeneration. Just proves how poorly Moffat handled the Whoniverse.

[@Bobbymaccys]

The king has returned

[@AidanDrotzur-uz5sz]

I want a review of torchwood s4

[@TaeSunWoo]

Not me hitting the “Clara and 11th Doctor griddy” at 10pm

[@CryptoSeb]

Nor having Christopher play the 9th / war was a crime but we understand why he won't ever return... unfortunately. That would of made this a 100/10 even though this is a good story with what they had. 9ths personality like during the "dalek" episode... omg just imagine... "I've got to do it, I've got to end this" Rose- "no doctor" 9th - "Rose that thing all my people I've got nothing left"... imagine that

[@peterullinger2814]

The Doctor doing basically a Kamehameha was .... rough and cheap. The writers did not find a way a solution rather than this deusexmachina-$417.

[@Emerald_Knight_Games]

heres the thing we have seen how destructive regenerations are with the end of tennants original run as the 10th doctor damaging the tardis, considering we don't know what biologically went on with his body maybe unlocking the extra regenerations made it more destructive or just the fact it was the sudden rush of pure regeneration energy that made it way too explosive

[@Emerald_Knight_Games]

also heres the thing the doctor just suddenly started to regenerate he wasn't damaged to fatally injured by anyone so maybe that had something to do with it idk (either way i understand your point and fair enough)

[@tabularasa0606]

Yeah, not a big fan of the episode. Entertaining, but one big plot hole.

[@qfnoyvoy6353]

Has issues but has one of my fav regenerations when he talks about change.

[@Lefty7788tinkatolli]

I actually liked this episode. Was it a bit convoluted? Yeah. Was there a bit too much going on? Yeah, sure. But I still think this is a very emotional episode and pretty damn heavy for a Christmas special. I can overlook some of its flaws because I just enjoyed the episode anyway, and that's what matters. If I were to nitpick things the way this reviewer does, I'd probably say different. But at face value I'd give this episode a solid 7/10.

[@ectowhite]

Another story that failed to engage me . Matt Smith deserved better.

[@nathanwhitehouse8237]

I knew you wouldn't like this episode from previous dmall comment. I love the episode. The regeneration is iconic and the passion of the doctor as he kills all. This episode can't be blamed for post series failures. Thats the work of others. Its a fun episode which clearly doesn't suit you. The point of no lies is that this is Trenzalore. The town turns into what we sor in a previous episode if the time lords don't give him regeneration energy. When Clara says the Doctor is his name the time lords can only see how true that is by the fact nobody can lie here. I think it's brilliant. One of my favourites and I think the angels look fine when they appear. I don't know much about editing though so easy for me to see no difference. Glad your rereviewing heaven sent after your shocker of a review before.

[@blueberrycranberrycherry]

I just don’t think he likes doctor who in general to be honest, he likes the concept and certain episodes but not the show. This one he was annoyed it’s all being spelled out but then half of his nitpicks are things not being spelled out….

[@Arbiter1414]

@@blueberrycranberrycherry I think he basically likes rtd 1 and doesnt like much of anything past it, this where he complained about all the nostalgia and the doctor saying goodbye to amy all i could think is ok but you loved journeys end and end of time which were infinitely more egregious

[@aemondtargaryen972]

This was the last episode of Dr. Who I ever watched.

[@tonyaboyer4547]

I’m just completely baffled by this episode. No rhyme or reason, just chaos pretending to be a logical wrap up of the nonsense from the previous 3 seasons

[@RyannM8]

That doctor who moment brought back some of my favourite moments from 2009 KZbin

[@TheToonMonkey]

Yes. Yes it did.

[@ethanmcknobbyknees1017]

Love these! Glad to be early

[@lordbritannic]

Clara was ok not great not as good as Amy but better than bill.

[@Frank-Einstein-Madman]

Bill was good but would've been better without all the romance BS and constantl references to her sexuality!

[@lpc9929]

The the bacteria

[@Paul_1971]

At this point since RTD2, I now consider any Nu-Who from RTD1 onwards just as big budget poorly imitated/written fan-fic, just like JJ Wars & Kurtzman Trek. Fans of originals trying to mould it in their own image and not succeeding particularly well, tainting the original legacy.

[@RyannM8]

Yay! I’m so early

[@wardjunior1450]

Yeah pretty perfect episode.

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