Did Jesus predict his Death and Resurrection as the Gospels claim?

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[@massivechafe]

This makes so much sense. I am an entrenched Christian and have never understood how Jesus' death could somehow forgive our sins

[@benzfml6651]

Paqe;edhe kjo ka kuptim qe thua ti,i rrenjosur krishtere dhe kembngulni ne ate qe e thirni veten te krishtere i nderoni emrin vetes dhe jezusit e therisni krist,doni ta therisni besimin nji te vetem ,ne fen e juaj te cilen e quani fe simbas tekeve te juaja,dhe te tjeret njashtu si ju shpikin fe,dalin te tjeret thon jo jo kjo rruga,jo jo kjo eshte libri,jo jo kjo eshte ceremonia e cila duhet per te bere qe te keshe fen e caktuar-ne veten tende je nji besimtar ne na mashtron njeri sy e njeri vesh-Prsh shum💓

[@tbishop4961]

The vicarious atonement is a trap. Once you've bought into it, you can safely ignore all the passages where Jesus explains how to behave

[@snakejuce]

Oh, you again haha. Hope you're well.

[@benzfml6651]

@@tbishop4961 prsh;lejoje shkrimi yt qe te perkthehet ne Shqip apo gjermonisht

[@benzfml6651]

@@snakejuce prsh;ne qoft se eshte e mundur lejoje te perkthehet ne Shqip apo cjermonisht

[@juliusnovachrono4370]

Assalamu alaikum Paul, you honestly remind me of my old ethics teacher. I do hope you continue these videos, learning more about different religions is honestly an enlightening experience.

[@snakejuce]

❤️

[@Reign-3]

*How did Christianity become a global religion?* Jesus was *only* sent to the lost sheep of Israel and *Not* to the whole world (Matthew 15:21-24/ John 1:11) When a Canaanite woman cried out for Jesus help he rejected and answered her: “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.” So how did Christianity become global religion? the answer is, it was at the hands of Paul who distorted the original message of Jesus. Paul left all Israelis, Canaanites, Samaritans, and went to the pagan Romans to present to them a new Christian religion that differs radically from that brought by Jesus. Paul's students were all non-Jews with the exception of only two or three! Jesus says: “Take heed that you are not led astray; for many will come in my name, saying, . . . *”The time is at hand!”* Do not go after them. Luke 21:8 Paul says: the night is far gone, *the day is at hand.* Rom.13:12 Paul’s name was Saul of Tarsusi, and he was an extremist Jew, and one of the prominent enemies of the original Christianity, he was severely hostile to Christians and *harmed them* he was hunting them down on the roads, and dragging them off in handcuffs to prisons and torture chambers! *Part of this dark history* of Paul aka the founder of Christianity, is found in (Acts 8:1-3) *Paul (or Saul) would invade the church and enter homes, dragging away men and women, and handing them over to the prison!! (Acts 9:1,2)* Look what he did to innocent Christians (who believed Jesus was just prophet) The thing here is Paul, who had been so hostile to Jesus. was so determined to corrupt the religion, that he decided to become a follower himself. Without warning ,he suddenly became a believer. When he tried to reach out to Jesus' disciples, they all were suspicious of his intentions, as nobody had imagined Paul would convert, except Barnabas, who believed in him. However, even Barnabas himself later *regretted* it. According to Barnabas' Gospel, Paul was preaching beliefs different from Jesus. It turned out the disciples were right when they rejected Paul. And yet the Church accepted 14 books written by Paul and adding them to the New Testament. Paul alone is responsible for more than half of the Christian Bible's canon. *“And when Saul (Paul) was come to Jerusalem, he assayed to join himself to the disciples: but they were all afraid of him, and believed not that he was a disciple” (Acts 9:26)* Strange, how the *disciples* of Jesus *feared* Paul so much, yet he's been made a central figure in Christianity, even second only to Jesus himself! He remained an enemy until Jesus’ death, and only after it he claimed to have a vision. He started preaching beliefs that contradicted Jesus' teachings, and ignored the disciples' opposition. He was talking about Christ despite never meeting him. When Paul traveled to Damascus, people were *shocked,* hearing him preach in the name of Jesus, see: (Acts 9:20-21) They were confused and shocked! Doesn't it seem strange that Paul, the greatest enemy of Christianity, got to set the new doctrine on his own, while his disciples, who knew Christ and learned from him, failed? He even persecuted and accused them of being deceitful. The Christian faith as we know it today was based on the theology Paul constructed in the years 40 to 67. During that period there were no sacred texts yet, the four gospels were written decades later. Jesus followed the previous law Matthew 5:17, or are they going to say Jesus lied or didn’t know how to express himself? And follow Paul because he claimed he heard from Jesus? The canonical Four Gospels (were influenced by Paul’s letters) were written in Greek, and Matthew was written in Hebrew. But neither Greek nor Hebrew were the languages Jesus spoke, the Gospels confirmed he spoke Aramaic. Where is the original Gospel of Jesus? You will never find answers.

[@johnbrzykcy3076]

​@@Reign-3 Why do you say "You will never find the answers"? Respectfully....

[@mohamedsmaili297]

@@johnbrzykcy3076 I pray to the One true God whom prophet Jesus son of Mary (peace be upon them both) had worshiped to guide us to the truth. Ameen Hello again John. The One Creator of the Messiah and the Holy Spirit (peace be upon them both) says: (16. And mention in the Scripture Mary, when she withdrew from her people to an eastern location. 17. She screened herself away from them, and We sent to her Our spirit, and He appeared to her as an immaculate human. 18. She said, “I take refuge from you in the Most Merciful, should you be righteous.” 19. He said, “I am only the messenger of your Lord, to give you the gift of a pure son.” 20. She said, “How can I have a son, when no man has touched me, and I was never unchaste?” 21. He said, “Thus said your Lord, `It is easy for Me, and We will make him a sign for humanity, and a mercy from Us. It is a matter already decided.'“ 22. So she carried him, and secluded herself with him in a remote place. 23. The labor-pains came upon her, by the trunk of a palm-tree. She said, “I wish I had died before this, and been completely forgotten.” 24. Whereupon he called her from beneath her: “Do not worry; your Lord has placed a stream beneath you. 25. And shake the trunk of the palm-tree towards you, and it will drop ripe dates by you.” 26. “So eat, and drink, and be consoled. And if you see any human, say, ‘I have vowed a fast to the Most Gracious, so I will not speak to any human today.'“ 27. Then she came to her people, carrying him. They said, “O Mary, you have done something terrible. 28. O sister of Aaron, your father was not an evil man, and your mother was not a whore.” 29. So she pointed to him. They said, “How can we speak to an infant in the crib?” 30. He said, “I am the servant of Allah. He has given me the Scripture, and made me a prophet. 31. And has made me blessed wherever I may be; and has enjoined on me prayer and charity, so long as I live. 32. And kind to my mother, and He did not make me a disobedient rebel. 33. So Peace is upon me the day I was born, and the day I die, and the Day I get resurrected alive.” 34. That is Jesus son of Mary-the Word of truth about which they doubt. 35. It is not for Allah to have a child-glory be to Him. To have anything done, He says to it, “Be,” and it becomes. 36. “Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. That is a straight path.” 37. But the various factions differed among themselves. So woe to those who disbelieve from the scene of a tremendous Day. 38. Listen to them and watch for them the Day they come to Us. But the wrongdoers today are completely lost. 39. And warn them of the Day of Regret, when the matter will be concluded. Yet they are heedless, and they do not believe. 40. It is We who will inherit the earth and everyone on it, and to Us they will be returned.) Surah 19 maryam (mary) ayah 16 to 40 from the Holy Quran the final testament revealed by our Creator Rabbuna Allah Almighty to the last of his prophets Muhammad (peace be upon them all) May our Beautiful Designer the Most High have mercy on us. Ameen

[@gopaulangappan8407]

Slavery still exists in Quran & eloquent in lies Truth be told it's a Manuel for slavery human Trafficking Muhammad broke all Ten Commandments directly given to Moses Quran is eloquent in Deciet and Confusion of Universal proportions You are right It's impossible to produce such incoherent scripture like Quran endorses wars genocide slavery abductions human trafficking grooming of children and free sex with slaves Muhammad alias Allah allocated to himself 20% of looting and plunder including 20%of women and children captured after wars and killing of all men and boys even those who surrendered Just because Quran talks about one God and promote genocide and violations of all forms of existing Universal Human Rights Declarations worldwide is in itself absurd Islam is genetically engineered religion Allah is the alias of Muhammad created to protect himself from the eternal and horrendous crimes committed by him Read The History of Jihad from Muhammad to Isis by Robert Spencer. This book reveals the eternal genocide of peaceful civilizations by Muhammad Quran Islam and Muslims throughout his life time to date Allah endorsed and enshrined slavery abductions human trafficking and grooming of children and Allah explicitly and unambiguously authorized Muhammad to recieve 20% of War looting plunder including 20 %of women and children abducted after wars as slaves Allah authorized Muhammad and his Muslim followers to free sex with slaves whenever they desired and trading of slaves in the market place Quran violates all current Universal Human Rights Declaration and is a million times worse than apartheid youtube.com/@dawahoverdunya

[@delatorrecilla]

Thank you for the commentary. Make sense. Alhamdulillah no confusion in Islam. Clear and pure

[@contemplatively]

Excellent commentary, brother. May Allaah subhaanahu wa ta'aalaa bestow His Kindness and Guidance upon you.

[@fidelcatsro6948]

ameen amigo!

[@contemplatively]

How sad is it that the damage done by Paul and the Roman Empire to faith has taken so many centuries of conflict and so many souls to be lead astray 😔

[@nwelll]

Really? Paul was Divinely inspired as the Apostle Peter acknowledges. Who confirmed Muhammad teachings?

[@peacesalaam816]

Inspired by Satan!! Noone else!

[@contemplatively]

@@nwelll My friend - I think we both agree that not everyone is an apostle just because they claim to be. What are your criteria for knowing who's a real apostle and who isn't?

[@nwelll]

@@contemplatively If then theyre not real Apostle according to you why Muhammad copied details of Virgin Mary's life from the "Protoevangelium of Apostle James". The story of Jesus making life from clay birds from the "Infancy Gospel of Apostle Thomas?

[@homer1273]

@@nwelllyou are delusional! no one confirmed false apostle Paul who admitted that Satan came to him as a light in the desert. Paul not only admitted lying in romans 3:7 but also admitted that he constantly was visited by messenger of Satan who tormented his cursed Saul

[@mn-lt4kq]

One God , One message one path from day one ...the word came out long ago .

[@dtrez3866]

One delusion.

[@IsmailIsmail-mi9ns]

@@dtrez3866 you are the deluded!!!

[@iggythedragon3980]

What a beautiful masterclass of introduction - development - conclusion. Keep it going brother, may God bless you and open the eyes of the Christians through your channel. Ameen

[@Z3styz3d]

So excited! NEW EPISODE :D

[@maxmorris4562]

7:10 8:20 9:06 10:17 12:59 Commentary 14:28 15:32 19:14 20:01 How gospels present them 23:48 27:14 Explained well 30:15 Gap in knowledge explained scholars and people going to church 32:43 Conclude

[@issamali1]

Allah subhanuh mentions in surat annour, the correlation between forving others to receive His forgiveness 24:22) Let those among you who are bounteous and resourceful not swear to withhold giving to the kindred, to the needy, and to those who have forsaken their homes in the cause of Allah; rather, let them forgive and forbear. Do you not wish that Allah should forgive you?

[@harharharharharharharharha240]

I love the longform videos Paul! Keep it going I hope you are getting rewards from Allah for spreading wisdom to us Ameen ❤

[@islamicreel281]

آمین ثم آمین

[@YassineJ]

May God bless you for your work. Your videos are very interesting.

[@Logia1978]

Amazing brother. I will show this one to my mother.

[@sacredrider]

Excellent episode. Jazakallah Paul

[@user-tu5pg5mc4n]

Masha Allah bro. Educative as always. Jazakallahul kheir.

[@wwk17]

Another very useful insight - Thank you

[@hafiz5001]

Jazak Allah khair dear 👌 amazing lecture 🎉

[@victoriam.2935]

Astonishing! Thank you

[@Arsim93]

Thank you so much! It was very intersting! ❤

[@BloggingTheology]

You're welcome 😊

[@renatolopez6337]

@@BloggingTheology The Book of Isaiah and the Book Daniel predicted that the Messiah WILL DIE. For He was CUT OFF [ KILLED ] from the land of the living. - Isaiah 53:8 Messiah shall be CUT OFF [ KILLED ] , but not for Himself. - Daniel 9:26 And Jesus Himself prophecied that He will DIE. " Behold we are going up to Jerusalem, and the Son of Man will be betrayed to the chief priest and to the scribes, and they will condemn Him to DEATH, and deliver Him to the Gentiles to mock and to scourge and to CRUCIFY, and the third day He will RISE AGAIN. - Matthew 20:18-19 Can you prove al lah is god. Simple question, - Is the word of al lah a PURE LANGUAGE that can cleanse man's soul? - Does al lah have a soul? - Does al lah knows the secrets of man's heart?

[@Rizwan-sb4pl]

@@renatolopez6337 Isaiah 53:10 says he shall see his his offspring. Jesus did not have any child, so it’s not about him. 70 weeks prophecy starts in 603 BCE. And the messiah that’s mentioned to be cut off after 62 weeks is Onias |||, who was killed in 170 BCE. Also it’s not about jesus

[@brotheryosef3066]

Thanks for this.

[@ckotty]

Great analysis of a profound belief and beautifully simply explained When even prominent Christian scholars advocate for false attributions within the New Testament then every Christian should question what they read and research it before making it doctrine Much appreciated, thanks Paul

[@dtrez3866]

"Prominent Christian scholars" 🤔 Lmao.😅🤣. A real prominent scholar, like bart ehrman, says the author of the koran copied from "christian storytellers". 🙄🤔😮. Now, as if by magic, the opinions of real verified "prominent scholars" is rejected and discarded by you. 🤣.

[@IsmailIsmail-mi9ns]

@@dtrez3866 So bart ehrman is saying(The universe is expanding) is taken from Christian story tellers!!!How sad & how foolish both of you!!!

[@dtrez3866]

@@IsmailIsmail-mi9ns Nope. That is not what bart ehrman is saying. Ehrman is referring to stories in the Koran about jesus. Ehrman says the author of those koranic stories took them from "Christian storytellers".

[@samcrawford9556]

Excellent. Thanks

[@mahaebeid6256]

Impressive effort, Paul 👏

[@Zarghaam12]

Interesting! Now I can delve deeper into this topic which puzzled me a lot. Thanks for the references, esp. Geza Vermes. I've been reading Vermes's *The Real Jesus Then and Now* . Excellent book! BTW, talking about it, *intercession is not only allowed in traditional, classical Islamic schools*, i.e. non-Salafi, which is a new innovation (!), but is even encouraged! The 2nd caliph repeatedly preformed 'istisqaa استسقاء' , using Abbas Ibn Abdul Muttalib as an intercessor! Bulkari talks about it (below), and many other examples mentioned by Bukhari, Muslim. Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani, Jajaluddin as-Suyuuti etc. etc. This is Bukhari hadiith # 1010: حَدَّثَنَا الْحَسَنُ بْنُ مُحَمَّدٍ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ الأَنْصَارِيُّ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنِي أَبِي عَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ الْمُثَنَّى، عَنْ ثُمَامَةَ بْنِ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ أَنَسٍ، عَنْ أَنَسٍ، أَنَّ عُمَرَ بْنَ الْخَطَّابِ ـ رضى الله عنه ـ كَانَ إِذَا قَحَطُوا اسْتَسْقَى بِالْعَبَّاسِ بْنِ عَبْدِ الْمُطَّلِبِ فَقَالَ اللَّهُمَّ إِنَّا كُنَّا نَتَوَسَّلُ إِلَيْكَ بِنَبِيِّنَا فَتَسْقِينَا وَإِنَّا نَتَوَسَّلُ إِلَيْكَ بِعَمِّ نَبِيِّنَا فَاسْقِنَا‏.‏ قَالَ فَيُسْقَوْنَ‏.‏ Narrated from Anas:"Whenever drought threatened them, `Umar bin Al-Khattab, used to ask Al-Abbas bin `Abdul Muttalib to invoke Allah for rain. He used to say, "O Allah! We used to ask our Prophet to invoke You for rain, and You would bless us with rain, and now we ask his uncle to invoke You for rain. O Allah ! Bless us with rain. And so it would rain." Reference: ========= Sahih al-Bukhari hadiith # 1010, Book 15, Hadith 5 Invoking Allah for Rain (Istisqaa) كتاب الاستسقاء Chapter: Request of the people to the Imam to offer the Istisqa' prayer [3] باب سُؤَالِ النَّاسِ الإِمَامَ الاِسْتِسْقَاءَ إِذَا قَحَطُوا

[@homtanks7259]

JazakAllah'u khairan

[@azch6424]

Assalam Alaykum brother Paul. Jzakallah khayran for such an interesting and enlightening video. I wonder if the majority of Christian historians who consider prophet Mohammed PBUH as a prophet are secretly Muslims but cannot profess it outwardly because of the outrage it might cause, not to forget the ending of their sources of income from the church.

[@ts4095]

Thanku very interesting facts !!!

[@hassanmirza2392]

When it comes to Judeo-Christian religion and tradition, Paul's knowledge shines!

[@johnbrzykcy3076]

I agree that Paul of Blogging Theology is a good scholar and educated. But as a Christian believer, I like to listen to various scholars, including Christian, Muslim, and others. No disrespect intended. Peace

[@truthmatter9972]

Just so simple and beautiful .... Thank you so much Sir.

[@johnbrzykcy3076]

The aspect of God's mercy and forgiveness is indeed "simple and beautiful". The mystery of God's love as the foundational aspect of Christianity is also beautiful because Jesus' life was the ultimate example of love for creation. May God ( Allah ) guide each of us to see His love.

[@truthmatter9972]

@@johnbrzykcy3076 You and I should see and feel Allah's love every single day. Dispit all our sins, example worshiping a partner with him, HE continues to provide for us and bless us with health and wealth ..etc. For your own good Brother, worship the only one true God that Jesus PBUH used to worship and stop making partener ship with HIM.

[@truthmatter9972]

@@johnbrzykcy3076 I wish you really understand what you are doing John. All the best kzbin.info/www/bejne/bYq8lGakd8t3oKM Muslim Asks Rabbi Tovia Singer: Why do Christians Ignore the Torah’s Prohibition of ‘Shirk’?

[@johnbrzykcy3076]

​@@truthmatter9972 As a Christian believer, I really like when you said "You and I should see and feel Allah's love every single day". Although I don't refer to God the Creator as Allah, your comments and honesty are excellent. In fact, I need to ponder what you said because I struggle to "see and feel" the love of God. So I appreciate your comments. Peace of God to you and your family..

[@truthmatter9972]

@@johnbrzykcy3076 First : The Creator of earth and Heaven in English is called God .... right , in Greek called Duss , in Hebrew called Elohim, in Aramaic “the language of Jesus” called Allaha in Arabic is called Allah. So Allah means God …..oky. Goggle Allah and see the meaning, you will understand. Next time when you do to church ask for Arabic Bible ...... and try to find Arabic Christian to help you to count how many time " Allah " name been mentened in the only first page of Genesis . Second: Why do you straggle to feel and see Allah/God’s love ???? I see that you read and write and most likely you hear and see….You live in USA in beautiful Florida ….. All these thing are free gift of love from God to you …….what else do you want ????Many other human being do not have any of that. God is showering you with love …. It is so sad that you do not feel it. Perhaps you take things for granted which you should not do. Third : my questions were very simple once, start with the first one : Did Mary knew that she was giving birth to God and breast-feeding God and change dipper to God? Yes or No

[@mohamedshaafi9581]

Love to see an interview with such a Christian scholar.

[@fidelcatsro6948]

Geza Vermes died aged 88, 10 yrs ago

[@sgma4m]

As for death and resurrection, Jesus Christ warned and called who denied His Death and His Resurrection ...for human concern was ... SATAN! (Matthew 16:21-23, Mark 8:31-33).

[@Msi696]

Assalamualaikum uncle Paul, could you please make a video on the 1924 Cairo Quran and who wrote it?

[@zulhafis9858]

Allah already tell us in al Quran. It wasnt their eyes were blind but their heart. That why when their own christian expert tell the truth about their gospel. They still denied it. Thank you brother paul have share a lot of fact about christian understanding. Love you commentary. Easy to understand.

[@sgma4m]

Who is the mythical Quran Allah being in heaven? Unlike the Biblical God, the Quran Allah had no capability to appear or incarnate in some visible creature forms as desired for his direct communication? But contrarily, he used the blind Waraqah, the illiterate Mohammed, and one mystical demon in cave to misguide people against the God salvation in Jesus?

[@fatimavanderschyff3571]

Fascinating commentary ... thank you for your hard work ... like and subscribe 👍

[@AbdulRahman-cv7nv]

Assalamu'alaikum Bro Paul. I really appreciate you and your videos viz islamic dakwah. Is is possible Sir, to get Dr Zakir Naik and Dr Bart to have a discussion? I have viewed many Dr Bart videos but the latest(?) on Jesus' Resurrection was truly interesting. I pray to Allah may Dr Bart will open his heart to accept Islam.... It would be eye opener to all academicians of christian faith... Wallahuaklam...

[@Chandransingham]

Interesting but you need to be careful referring only a few scholars and normative references. There are others too. Bart himself referred to Harper Collins' commentary of the Bible. There are series Cambridge commentaries. And the New Jerome Commentary ed by John Collins. The parable of the sower by Jesus (Matthew 13/18-23) might help. Seeds those fall in thorny grounds get into problem of understanding. God bless you.

[@kausamsalam8543]

As-Salaam-Alaikum. Thanks for the thoughtful commentaries and reading suggestions. Perhaps it’s human nature to accept complexities of any situation rather than simplicity. Still, may we regular humans coexist harmoniously with all Faiths in our journeys through lives, for Allah’s sake.

[@johnbrzykcy3076]

I'm a Christian believer and I really appreciate your comments. Thanks for your respectful response to others. Peace of God to you...

[@muhammadnursultan9704]

Did u support falsehood by agrees with them?

[@hoopoe9629]

Br. Paul you’ve exceeded my expectations in this one! Extraordinary. If these Christians believe in the prophethood of Muhammad (peace be upon him) will they not then embrace Islam?? I heard an Islamic speaker claim that Jesus (peace be upon him) was not a Jew, as he did not have a Jewish father - and despite the tradition, he said, the lineage is through the father, not the mother - and unlike other prophets mentioned in the Qur’an, Jesus does not say, “O my people,” but rather, “O Children of Israel!” I would be curious to get your take….

[@johnbrzykcy3076]

I'm a Christian believer and I appreciate your mention that Jesus said "O Children of Israel." I need to research that. I've never read the Quran but maybe someday I will. Peace of God to you....

[@dtrez3866]

Proof that islam makes muslims completely ignorant. What does it mean in islam for someone to be "the messiah"? Jesus as the messiah was a jew by definition.

[@hoopoe9629]

@@dtrez3866 you’ve asked a question that has an answer. “Al-Maseeh” in Arabic literally means “wiped one” or “one who wipes,” or “The Anointed One.” This may have been from his being literally anointed with blessed oil but he was also anointed with blessing. Jesus was specially chosen by God to perform miracles, heal the sick, and bring the good news of God’s mercy to the lost sheep of the Children of Israel. The law was burdensome and he was sent to lighten that burden. He was raised up by God and will return in the end times and defeat the Antichrist.

[@ArabianMemelord]

Great topic! May Allah bless you.

[@fidelcatsro6948]

ameen

[@mohammedsahor]

“The truth has come and falsehood has vanished. Indeed, falsehood is bound to vanish.” ~ Qur’an 17:81

[@alib7489]

Salaam brother Paul

[@fidelcatsro6948]

Wasalam amigo!

[@BloggingTheology]

Wa alaykumu s-salam

[@redvoice896]

La ilaha illa-Allah ☝🏻

[@gr4707]

10:14 fascinating

[@yusufk5298]

Paul, a reviewer of a 1000 books should write one book , What Did Jesus Really Preach?

[@abdurrazzak2970]

May Allah Bless You. Uncle Paul.

[@fidelcatsro6948]

ameen

[@Badri31333]

31:09 wow 🤯 - hope you can help bridge that gap اِ نْ شَآ ءَ اللّه because we care about our Christian brothers.

[@johnbrzykcy3076]

Thanks for your respectful response. We also care about our Muslim brothers ( and sisters ). Respectfully from Florida...

[@johnbrzykcy3076]

Very interesting. As a Christian believer, i believe that Jesus' crucifixion was a "sacrifice of love" for us. Wow.. i really appreciate your sharing the parable of the Prodigal Son, one of my favorite stories in the New Testament. I don't know it all. Only God is all-knowing. If Jesus crucifixion represents a sacrifice of love, who am I to reject such ? Of course this points to the mercy of God the Father. " God knows our weakness". Excellent. I agree. I don't agree with the idea that Jesus' incarnation is just a " metaphor" ( depending on what is meant by "metaphor" ) but i appreciate the opportunity to learn about John Hick's book. Respectfully from Florida. Peace of God to all Muslims and Christians.

[@truthmatter9972]

Why you are not muslim John?

[@johnbrzykcy3076]

​@@truthmatter9972 If the word "muslim" means "submitting to God", then I hope God helps me to understand better. But from my understanding, I have problems with the concept that the Quran teaches Jesus was not divine. I believe Jesus was crucified but I question "why" did Jesus have to die on a cross? What was God's plan for Jesus? I know the Gospel of John says that God sent his beloved son Jesus to us. But how does Jesus' crucifixion "take away our sins"? Anyhow... I am no scholar so I prefer to read scriptures that I understand better, such as the stories about the Prodigal Son and the Good Samaritan. May the All - Knowing God guide each of us. Respectfully....

[@truthmatter9972]

@@johnbrzykcy3076 Why do not you come to the Ef Dawad forum or to Hmaza Den and get all these questions answered to you ?

[@Aquacrystal78]

​@@johnbrzykcy3076 Quran teaches Jesus was a Messenger of God,Messiah who was born miraculous on God Command "Be and it is" to a virgin. According to Quran, God only made the Crucifixion appeared as Such to the enemy of Jesus but Jesus wasn't actually crucified rather was raised alive by Angels into Heaven without death. According to Hadith another Man willingly taken his appearance was crucified in his stead. FYI Crucifixion of an innocent cannot nullify the burden of Sin of another Human Being.That's Not Just at all.God is Most Just. Every Human being bears the burden of his own sin and good deeds. I guess you just ignore this part of the Bible Ezikel (20) The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

[@doneracer5994]

@@johnbrzykcy3076 John, The 'wages' of sin is death; after physical death comes spiritual death. Read Leviticus 17:11, Hebrews 9, 2 Corinthians 5:21 & John 6:53-54. Peace.

[@youtubeaccount3230]

12 people won’t be able to forget if Jesus said that (we know he didn’t)

[@aryansoe]

In the Lord's prayer, the person is praying directly to the Father; seeking His forgiveness for the person's repentance & asking His refuge for wrongdoings & evildoers. Clearly, there is no mediator between the person praying & the Father. And no mentioned of any sactifices needed for one's forgiveness

[@sgma4m]

FYI/E. Unlike Paul and John Hicks' very narrow view, people may interpret and twist any phrase or any story with any biased way, out of context, as desired. And for the Biblical teaching, John Hicks ignored the basic Biblical teaching that, the name Jesus, ie. Yashua in Hebrews, itself revealed the meaning "God is salvation", and "Emmanuel" means "God is with man!" as mentioned in Mt 1:18-25 As for the Lord's prayer, it is a typical teaching from Jesus to show a basic prayer: Man as the Son on earth may pray to the Father in heaven! It taught "a trespass against other people" (not a trespass against the Holy Spirit,...b/c any sin against the Holy Spirit is unforgiving sin as confirmed by Jesus. Also note that there is no term "God/Allah" used in this prayer! Moreover, this prayer clearly did not teach the whole long history story from creation to salvation and to the end, specially it did not teach people how to redeem Adam's origin sin, and how to restore and reenter the lost Eden garden ...because no man had no capability to do it except God. Assume Adam knew his sin and honestly repented his origin sin, why did God not forgive his sin, but contrarily God still kicked Adam out of garden ...until today. It can be a reason, and that's why the OT Bible were written in a long period to prophesy the coming Messiah for his salvation mission. WONDER whether or not you heard a very strict law "blood for blood and tooth for tooth" as taught by God for his God justice? And WHY did God teach some sacrifices in blood, such as male circumcision, sacrifice of the son Issaic, sacrifice of lamb to redeem personal sins before the Ark of Covenant with the witness of one Jewish priest in the temple? These bloody rituals must have their reasons relating to human sin, and God provided these visible pre-figures as examples to help people to realize the coming sacrifice of his own son as the Savior in order to redeem human sin (origin sin and personal sin) and restore the lost Eden Garden for man. Understood?

[@dtrez3866]

That would be like saying a muslim prayed to allah. Did that Muslim wash first or not? It is a given, right? Well the same applies here. The request to be forgiven is not outside of the torah laws. The torah laws requires that even after repentance, for sins against people, an animal must die for the person to have made atonement for their sin and for their sin to be forgiven. I'm sorry to say, you have been decieved.

[@muhammadnursultan9704]

​@@dtrez3866I'm sorry to say you don't know anything about Judaism lol.

[@dtrez3866]

@@muhammadnursultan9704 I never made any claims about "judaism". I said "the Torah". The torah, as in the laws that God gave to moses.

[@khairt1731]

Best evidence I saw was the video of Ahmed Deedat - Crucifixion or Cruci-fiction ? Very good lecture

[@aumyousefnasser9359]

Even in Jeremiah chapter 7 from 21-32 God didn't commended to sacrifice .

[@doneracer5994]

@aumyousefnasser9359 The Law of Moses, where God commanded sacrifices for His remission of our sins, is the Torah (also called the Pentateuch), the first 5 Books of the Holy Bible: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy. Jeremiah is a Prophet whose book is not specifically about the Law of Moses.

[@ConsideringPhlebas]

Church fathers like Augustine, Aquinas, Chrysostom, Cyprian, etc. do indeed affirm that God can forgive sins at will in their commentaries on the Lord's prayer. Venial sins especially. And gotta love the critiques of people like Vermes. The tone of his writing oozes hatred for Christianity. But his critique of the resurrection narrative is much less plausible than the Gospels' narrative. Vermes and those like him expect us to believe the apostles would all have had superhuman conviction, and would have gleefully and stoically submitted themselves to be tortured to death, having just seen the same happen to Jesus, simply because he preached martyrdom. Had the Gospel read the way these critics say it should, people like Vermes would've dismissed it as pious fables.

[@traviswilson36]

If you believed someone died and 3 days later someone came telling you they were alive again I think a rational reaction would be to deny them. I fail to see how that proves Christianity is false.

[@herbcandlearchive]

It's really about him 'coming back from death', aka what Christianity claims to be a miracle of his, hence making him God. It's about him dying in the first place. The entire situation of his 'death', his 'sacrifice' and the meanings behind all that is what proves Christianity to be false. He didn't die for anybody's sins, especially not his 'creations', (Of course, all according to Christianity and its scripture), it's not exactly sacrifice as he didn't choose to be put in that terrible situation, but even asked for help from God to rescue him, and God (the Father) did not answer his calls. The entire crucifixion matter is very self-contradictory, and has flaws and irrational details that cannot be, in any way, linked to God.

[@traviswilson36]

@herbcandlearchive I was going to reply to you but you have an anime girl as an avatar. Be gone, weeb.

[@AbdulRazak-sx3xd]

Passion predictions themselves probably a lot are later christian creativity. It is unlikely Jesus predicted his own trial and crucifixion and resurrection. Otherwise, how the disciples were in total confusion when the alleged events occurred.

[@tomasino3572]

Salamaleykum. How can the apostles have misunderstood the meaning of a resurrection if Lazare was raised from the death in the first place? More probably, never Jesus (as) told any such thing about himself and it's a very forgery, as usual unfortunately.

[@jenniferjoseph5914]

These are folk stories.The true reason is all about gathering wealth.This is why The Vatican is very rich. All the money from churches went to Rome to the Head of the church, Rome. ( pope).

[@safyafarooq2878]

Salamualeikum Brother Paul. Can you imagine that Christians see the God of the old Testament and of the Quran as harsh, and punishing unloving, but the God of the new Testament as pure love and forgiveness? My grandmother has read the Quran and said that it's similar to the old testament. An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth..... They are confusing justice with mercy and forgiveness. Justice ist just, but mercy stands over justice, is more beloved to Allah. Allah is just but he can be also mercy and forgive. And we too are encouraged in the Quran : "....... but it's better to forgive..." And truely if you think through the theological concepts of Christianity till the end, then it's very confusing, illogical and if taken as true, then actually really cruel and harsh and not capable of forgive. Not capable! God and not capable?! Sorry English is not my mother tongue. I hope I could make my thoughts across understandably. Salamualeikum

[@yasminee52]

True and what’s more fascinating is that GOD calls himself in the Torah as AKHAD and Rakhman on the other hand God in the Quran is being referred to as Arrahman and Ahad which means the most merciful and the one ☝️ it is unquestionable that the source is one God the Almighty the creator of the heavens and the earth .God is very angry at the fact that people can’t see him as merciful that’s why he keeps repeating the terms ( Ghafour / tawab/latef/Rahim/Rahman ) the Quran came to remind us of who God really is THE most powerful the one the absolute and the most important the most generous and most kind ❤️

[@safyafarooq2878]

@@yasminee52 I agree with you sister. ❤️

[@lejenstudio]

The writer of the Gospel or rather the note taker so are the story teller have no knowledge of what had actually happened on Friday, Saturday and Sunday. The prediction of Jesus death is a made up story or just a guess to figure out the incident. Jesus never been crucified. It's not him who's carried and then died in the cross but his follower whom mistakenly identified as Jesus by Pilate Pontius.

[@heryoneheryone3664]

All humans are responsible for their own sins in akherat

[@RAVPower-]

If Jesus died for our sins, why then resurrect again?

[@fidelcatsro6948]

he took the weekend off.. Paul of Tarsus turned it into a doctrine!

[@RAVPower-]

@@fidelcatsro6948 I mean there is no point to die for the sins of others if I get resurrected again? Don’t know if I was clear.

[@fidelcatsro6948]

@@RAVPower- yes thats what i was trying to meow as well

[@johnbrzykcy3076]

​@@RAVPower-I don't understand your point about Jesus' resurrection. I think Jesus' resurrection was evidence to His apostles and followers that He was indeed divine. And Jesus' resurrection pointed to the reality that all people will someday be resurrected. And the resurrection of Jesus was proof that death cannot be victorious. Satan and sin shall be defeated. Respectfully...

[@truthmatter9972]

@@johnbrzykcy3076 Come on man ...give up all this hersay

[@danvankouwenberg7234]

Matthew 5:17 Douay-Rheims Bible Do not think that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets. I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. Christianity is not a simple religion. These arguments against them are common from atheists and protestant heretics/ apostates. The Church is there to help us understand these things.

[@canbest7668]

As there is insufficient evidence to believe in a resurrection this is an obvious no

[@philipk9783]

The never ending discussion that leads nowhere

[@johnbrzykcy3076]

But does the narrow, winding path actually lead to the cross ? It can't be nowhere if historically it was called "the place of the skull". Or was it a fable ? I actually agree it's a "never ending discussion" but I think it's good to ponder why Jesus died. If the discussion helps me to submit to God, then indeed it leads somewhere ! Respectfully....

[@truthmatter9972]

@@johnbrzykcy3076 Good replay John ... May Allah guides you to true teaching of Jesus

[@AbuBakar-mt1vn]

Its all about contradictions of the teachings of jesus n paul

[@doneracer5994]

@AbuBakar-mt1vn Muhamad was a false prophet, who, possessed by a demon from the start, was not chosen by God to understand the Gospel. So Muhamad instead decided the Gospel must have been a book written by Jesus, which, of course, Jesus never wrote since Jesus IS the Gospel.

[@a.lerner8468]

Something I have never been able to reconcile is the concept of justice in religion. If I kill someone, or steal someones money, or rape someone, I have committed a "sin" in the eyes of God. OK, so all I need do is declare my "sin" to a man dressed in black and he gives me words to recite and declares I am forgiven in the name of a man who died 2000 years ago. Sin wiped out .. no punishment as I have atoned. What do you think the someone I killed, or stole from, or raped will feel ? JUSTICE for the victim ? If in this world everything has a "price" why not with God and his son . An egotistical and unjust family, believe in me and my son is all i ask of you... to heck to the victims of your actions !

[@johnbrzykcy3076]

I'm a Christian believer and I appreciate your comments. Something we need to ponder. Thanks...

[@a.lerner8468]

@@johnbrzykcy3076 Thank you for your kind and wise reply...

[@doneracer5994]

@a.lerner8468 I was raised Roman Catholic, where sinners confess their sins to men. The priests are supposed to be mediators between God and men. But the Bible says "there is only one Mediator between God and men... Jesus the Christ." I'm now an Evangelical Christian. Evangelical Christians confess to Father God, in the Name of His Son Jesus, through the Power of the Holy Spirit.

[@a.lerner8468]

@@doneracer5994Hi, my point was not to whom one confesses ones sins... it is the basic tenet of vicarious atonement... does not seem "JUST".

[@doneracer5994]

@@a.lerner8468 Are you a muslim, atheist or "other"? If you are muslim, then how is it "just" to the injured party if you only tell Allah you're sorry and he forgives you? In Christianity, we are to repent to God first, then make an effort to reconcile our sin against the other person by apologizing to them, paying them back, or whatever is right and just for us to do. As far as vicarious atonement, if God is Holy and Who He says He is, there is *nothing* humans can do to make our sins "ok" with our Holy God, because God abhors sin. When Adam and Eve first sinned, God already had His plan for what He had to do in order to re-estalish our relationship with Him- And it wasn't what WE had to do---it was what GOD had to do. In Genesis 3 God metes out various judgments against those who brought sin into His perfect world. Adam, Eve, and the serpent all hear of the consequences of their rebellion. To the serpent God says in Genesis 3:15: "I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and her offspring; He shall crush your head, and you shall bruise His heel.” This verse propohecies the Savior of mankind, Jesus the Christ. We know Who wins in the end...and it is not the serpent. It is Father God through His Son in the power of His Spirit.

[@OmarAhmadMD]

please see it is clear there is an error in jesus’ understanding of the scriptures about him and in the garden of gethsemane he was assured by god that he would be saved and it was so jesus did predict that he would be crucified as the scripture had told him that but the word unconscious is the same word as death in hebrew and we know he did not die as the quran clearly says that in nisa and death by crucifixion did not result and it only appeared to them that he had died but blood flowed when his side was pierced indicating he was alive at that juncture and they did not break his legs that he would have died from internal hemorrhage and it is clear that jesus thought he would be killed but god in the night before his capture reassured him he would not and so events transpired such and the word death in the scripture is actually meant to mean unconscious and it is a metaphor that jesus rose from the dead and that is in my book and here i made it clear that it was improbable that jesus would have survived a near certain death but for the will of god working through pilate to save him and letting him go while the other insurgents were killed by breaking their legs omar Mark 8 Jesus tells his followers that "the Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders, chief priests and teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and after three days rise again". When Peter objects, Jesus tells him: "Get behind me, Satan! You do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men". (31-33) Matthew 20: 17-19 Now as Jesus was going up to Jerusalem, he took the twelve disciples aside and said to them, "We are going up to Jerusalem, and the Son of Man will be betrayed to the chief priests and the teachers of the law. They will condemn him to death and will turn him over to the Gentiles to be mocked and flogged and crucified. On the third day he will be raised to life!" Nisa 4:157 And for their saying: We have killed the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, the messenger of Allah, and they killed him not, nor did they cause his death on the cross, but he was made to appear to them as such. And certainly those who differ therein are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge about it, but only follow a conjecture, and they killed him not for certain: Excerpt From Holy Quran Maulana Muhammad Ali books.apple.com/us/book/holy-quran/id439664271

[@needmorequarts1081]

Every prophets knows about their time of death and isa ibn Maryam is alive not dead for surely that he was raised to Allah himself saved from being killed by conspiracy of the Jews and none of the people of the book except that they will believed in isa ibn Maryam before his death, all Christians, Muslims and even Jews believed in isa ibn Maryam is a solid evidence that the Messiah is still alive not dead or killed as the Qur'an has foretold.

[@justice70567]

Short answer: no.

[@james-yf9wm]

Muhammad preached the gnostic Jesus not the real Jesus......the stories of Jesus in Islam were taken from the gnostic Gospels.

[@muhammadnursultan9704]

Do you know Jesus?

[@james-yf9wm]

@@muhammadnursultan9704 Yes he is my Lord and saviour

[@brianbucher1313]

If traditional Christianity is wrong, as Islam suggests....Then why did God wait six centuries to correct it? Waiting that long guaranteed it to get entrenched in culture, thereby guaranteeing the damnation of millions of people...Why?

[@medinamariam5405]

The Christians who lived between the time of prophet Muhammad SAW to Jesus.. The ones that truly follow the teachings of Jesus ( Follow the law, Jesus is not God but a prophet, No trinity, only 1 God).. Will enter Paradise as these people are considered believers and Muslims. This sect of the true Followers Jesus was there.. But when the Romans took over and adopted Christianity, The Romans killed every one who disagreed with their version of Christianity. Those Christians who lived between Jesus and the prophet Muhammad SAW.. who never got the chance to hear about Islam or true teachings of Jesus (Monotheist, follow law, and Jesus not God).. They will have a different test on the day of judgement.. so they may have a chance to enter paradise if they manage to pass the test.

[@zzzzzzz5620]

You shouldn't create these kind of thumbnails

[@nenemens]

For this man to say forgiveness was only by repentance in Israel is ignorance. Jesus Christ was literally killed on the Passover. The Passover feast itself marked an event when God spared the lives of Israelites who had the blood of a lamb applied to their door posts and killed all firstborns in the houses of the Egyptians and others who didn't apply the blood of the lamb. Exodus 12:1-30. The Israelites were under a system of animal sacrifice for forgiveness of sins written in Leviticus chapter 4 and chapter 16 of the old testament. As Israelites who were covered by yearly animal sacrifices made on their behalf by the high priest they had access to God to ask for forgiveness of sins through repentance. Similarly in Christianity when a Christian sins we still ask for forgiveness of sins and repent. God is able to accept repentance without demanding punishment for the past sins because the sacrifice of Christ in the new testament and the sacrifice of animals under the old testament covered the punishment. As a just judge God must punish every sin whether you repent of it or not. In Christianity and Judaism God put the punishment on the sacrifice.

[@adildodo2046]

in the Holly Quran Allah Said That he told Jesus that he will lift him up to heaven and that he will save him from being crucified or killed, Allah (God) continue in the Quran saying that they didnt crucify him and they didn't kill him ( Jesus) but Allah lift him up, and tbey thought they did so, but they didnt🙂❤️🙏❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@tbishop4961]

It doesn't say "save him from being crucified"

[@adildodo2046]

@@tbishop4961 if you want the proof, go to the Holly Quran or google it, go Soura (chapter) Annissaa verse 156_158. its so interesting you will be fascinated. 👌🌹

[@badonlikoy5571]

Jesus said, I desire mercy but not sacrifice for I did not come to call the Righteousness but the sinners to repent (Matthew 9 :13). Jesus died for defending the truth, so that people will not commit sins against God. because He was accused of Blasphemy by those people who do not believe in Him. Jesus said, The reason I was born and came to this world is to testify to the truth (John 18 :37). So Jesus never deny the accusations of the people who do not believe in Him. And He stood up for the truth, even to the extend of His death. That is why Jesus was crucified and died. That is why, We Christians believed that Jesus died for our sins but it doesn't mean you are free to commit sins. Jesus said, If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not be guilty of sin but now they have no excuse for their sin (John 15 :22). Jesus said, For I did not come to be served but to serve and to give His as a ransom for many (Matthew 20 :28). Jesus said, This is My blood of the covenant which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins (Matthew 26 :28).

[@BenM61]

You: “He stood up for the truth, even to the extent of his death.” But your books claimed your Jesus was crucified because he claimed to be the king of the Jews, a capital offense in the Roman law: Mark 15:26 And the charge inscribed against Him read: THE KING OF THE JEWS. Matthew 27:37 Above His head they posted the written charge against Him: THIS IS JESUS, THE KING OF THE JEWS. Luke 23:38 Above Him was posted an inscription: THIS IS THE KING OF THE JEWS. John 19:19 Pilate had a notice prepared and fastened to the cross. It read: jesus of nazareth, the king of the jews.

[@asrafnauman4327]

The Father is God... 1 The Son is God ... 1 The Holy Spirit is God... 1 --- and they are one (1)...= 3 So God sent God to sacrifice Himself to atone for the sins of all mandkind??? Really confusing!!!

[@badonlikoy5571]

@@BenM61 king of the Jews is not the charges against Jesus. It was the Pilate who wrote it. The charges against Jesus when He claimed that is the Son of God (John 10 :36). That God is His Father. When Jesus said, destroy this temple and I will rebuild it in 3 days. Breaking the Sabbath Law etc.

[@truthmatter9972]

Misquting Jesus ....read Jesus seminery

[@badonlikoy5571]

@@asrafnauman4327 God didn't send God. But The Word of God Himself turned Him into being and appeared to Abraham as a human (Genesis 18:1). And the Word became Flesh and dwelt among us (John 1:14). That is why Jesus said, Abraham was greatly rejoiced to see My day (John 8 :56). Jesus said, I was with God before the world began (John 17:5 & John 17:24). That is why Jesus said, you would surely die in your sins if you don't believe that I Am He (John 8 :24). Even from the very beginning that God is not alone. Because who is this being saying, I was there before everything put in place (Proverbs 8:22-36). That is why God said, Let us make man in Our image.

[@robertpundsack1363]

Yes he did. I get this guy being a non believer in our God . Does not have ability to hear Gods truth. I suggest disregard ,read for yourself the truth of God in His words. Given to any person who hears His truth. Jesus. Came to die . For you. And rose to be your savior

[@asrafnauman4327]

Father is God ..... 1 Son is God.......... 1 Holy Spirit is God.... 1 --- And they are one (1)..= 3 So God sent God to sacrifice himself to atone for the sins of all mankind??? Really confusing

[@johnbrzykcy3076]

I agree that your interpretation of "So God sent God to sacrifice Himself " is " really confusing". I'm a Christian believer and although Jesus' crucifixion in regards to "sin" is still a mystery to me, my lack of understanding does not negate Jesus' love for us. Of course I would hope to understand better, but only God is all-knowing. If God the Father sent his beloved Son Jesus to be the perfect and ultimate example of "love", then who am I to reject such a love. I respect Paul from Blogging Theology. I try to respect Muslims. But can our finite, limited minds completely understand God ( Allah ) ? I'm basically on here to listen and learn. Because I don't know it all. Respectfully from Florida...

[@asrafnauman4327]

@@johnbrzykcy3076 In summary it can be said that the Bible consist of Old Testament, New Testament and the letter of Paul. The Old Testament is taken from the Jewish Torah and translated into the Greek. New Testament or 4 Gospel wrote by anonymous, this was said by christians experts. God's name (God the Son) was adopted from a Jewish descendant by being given the name Jesus. Paul wrote his own gospel (romans 1:1). Because of Christianity teachings come from various sources so that in them there are many contradictory teachings and confusing. In Islam there are two guides namely the revelation (Al-Qur-an) received by Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) from Allah and the sunnah of that Prophet. Full of respect to you Brother

[@sgma4m]

FYI/E. The Trinity God is making more sense ...when the True God is not like "one Single Man in heaven" for counting as imagined by some people! As for math, you forgot some other advanced maths: 1x1x1 = 1 , and 1 with power of 4 is still 1. As for God's self-sacrifice, I am not confused or surprisingly with it .... because the true God is the unique one in spirit who self-exists everywhere and anywhere as desired at the same time without limitation by any dimension. When his Son's body poured hid holy blood and died to redeem human sin due to his love to man, but later, his dead body resurrected and ascended is more important in religion... when Jesus proved all dead people at the last day will be resurrected ... like Him. Did you know when God self-exists, then God can self-resurrect? Boldy Death with Man is a BIG disaster, but Body Death with God means nothing ... b/c God is spirit and eternal.

[@asrafnauman4327]

@smga4m It seems that you are a high-level expert in mathematics and therefore I ask you to answer or solve mathematics as follows: 1a x 1b x 1c = ???? 1 god the Father x 1 God the Son x 1 holy spirit =???? 1 god x 1 god x 1 god = ??? You wrote "... because the God is unique in spirit ..." What is conceived, born and breastfed by Mary and circumcised on the eight day is also called a spirit??? John 5 :26-27 26. For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son also to have live in himself. 27. And he has given his authority because he is the Son of Man. "How to kill a spirit on the cross??? You wrote "... holy blood and died to redeem human sin..." Exodus 23:7 - Have nothing to do with a false charge and do not put an innocent or honest person to death, for I will not acquit guilty. Deutronomy 24:16 - Parents are not to put to death, for their children, nor children put to death for their parents, each will die for their own sin. Ezekiel 18:20 - The one who sins the one who will die. The child not share the guilt of parents nor will parent share the guilt of the child. The righteusness of the righteus will be credit to them, and wickedness of the wicked will be against them.

[@johnbrzykcy3076]

​@@asrafnauman4327 I don't quite understand everything you said but I appreciate your honesty. There are indeed some confusing scriptures but the foundational aspects of Christianity, which state that God the Father sent His beloved Son Jesus to be the ultimate example of love for mankind, is beautiful. How can we reject such love ? I'm thankful for God's mercy and love because I'm not worthy. I hope I can desire to submit to God. I do appreciate your comments. God's love and guidance to both Muslims and Christians. Respectfully from Florida...

[@sgma4m]

GOD MYSTERY with the LAMB of God: Jesus in the Bible was called as an innocent animal, ie. the LAMB of God in his salvation mission, But be careful, this Lamb is the Lord of lords, King of kings! (John 1:29, Rev 17:14, Rev 19:16). NOTE: By literal sense, some readers thought the Biblical terms looks silly or contradictory..., but by their context, it is the whole truth from God for humankind.

[@anthonyderosa7730]

Selaamu alaykum. Nothing is more frustrating than a christian trying to defend the gospels with the gospels. They say the gospel is proof because of eye witness accounts...from the gospel... meanwhile it further proves christians dont even know their own book. Each gospel has a different "witness" account lol. Each chapter says a different amount of people and conflict who was even there 😂😂

[@sgma4m]

FYI/E. All Biblical books including Gospels are the God-inspired books that were written by man with his human language (not with God's standard language). As for Gospels, each writer clearly had his own writing style and his own view to describe each event with his own witness or other witnesses. Two or more witnesses saw the same event, but they can describe it with some differences due to their different angles of view and understanding. It is so normal, so their differences can add or supplement for more details. For example, When I and you read the same Biblical God or the same US constitution, but in fact, you and I may have some different interpretations, and that's why people must pay tax to maintain the Supreme Court and Congress, and pay fee for the lawyers. Agreed? As for God's self-sacrifice, I am not confused or surprisingly with it .... because the true God is the unique one in spirit who self-exists everywhere and anywhere as desired at the same time without limitation by any dimension. When his Son's body poured hid holy blood and died to redeem human sin due to his love to man, but later, his dead body resurrected and ascended is more important in religion... when Jesus proved all dead people at the last day will be resurrected ... like Him.

[@johnbrzykcy3076]

Of course "each Gospel has a different "witness' account". I see no problem. Each author was inspired to write about Jesus' life but they did so from their own perspective or experience. Since the Ancient Near East was mostly an oral culture, I think the people who listened to the Gospel stories would carefully listen and appreciate the minor differences. No disrespect intended to you. I think I understand what you are saying. Peace of God to you.

[@johnbrzykcy3076]

Of course "each Gospel has a different "witness' account". I see no problem. Each author was inspired to write about Jesus' life but they did so from their own perspective or experience. Since the Ancient Near East was mostly an oral culture, I think the people who listened to the Gospel stories would carefully listen and appreciate the minor differences. No disrespect intended to you. I think I understand what you are saying. Peace of God to you.

[@doneracer5994]

The Gospel is easy to explain: For God so loved the world that He sent His only Son into the world, so that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world but that the world might be saved through Him. Anyone who believes this can tell you... ...who and what they were like as sinners before they met and got to know Jesus; ...how they met Jesus; ...and how they have changed for the better since meeting Jesus Christ.

[@0786AHA]

God knows and executes the future. To think God came to commit suicide to save man is just bad drama. And sin to boot. 😂😂☑️☑️☑️

[@aussierob7177]

Jesus died so that our sins could be forgiven, and we once more had the right to enter heaven. Baptism erases the stain of original sin and any personal sins committed. After Baptism, all sins committed have to be absolved and forgiven. Because Sacred Scripture is inspired, it must be read and interpreted in the light of the same Spirit by whom it was written, otherwise Scripture will always remain a "dead letter".

[@fidelcatsro6948]

sacrifice is when someone dies permanently..someone who dies and then gets up again means the person took the weekend off..not a sacrifice!

[@hksy2k]

I have a question can a Christian go to hell? Even temporarily like for his sins that he committed in this world? Can you also provide source Thank you

[@aircommandslipperz]

@@fidelcatsro6948i like your point!

[@B1ackC3t]

You mean the same spirit that give different interpretations, doctrine, and dominations of Christianity?

[@RynneFdin]

What happen if someone never baptised?