Did Martha Argerich ever play Beethoven’s Emperor Concerto?

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Max Lima

Max Lima

Күн бұрын

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@ericsteph
@ericsteph 4 жыл бұрын
I love how Pires says 'oh come on' it's like 'oh come on martha, cut the crap please' lol
@MaxLima1
@MaxLima1 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, me too lol
@rationalthinker-2024
@rationalthinker-2024 4 жыл бұрын
this comment is hilarious :)
@Paroles_et_Musique
@Paroles_et_Musique 4 жыл бұрын
because she is polite. Nonetheless, Argerich has a very limited repertoire, she plays again and again same things (of course fantastic), so you all have no idea how would she play something she doesn't like or feel comfortable with. Probably bad, there are tons of great pianists who do that.
@rationalthinker-2024
@rationalthinker-2024 2 жыл бұрын
@@fellipegalacho1874 yes, well said. many people confuse Martha's recent choice to focus on "limited repertoire" with Martha's career. Martha has played pieces that pianists don't even dare to touch like Rach 3rd, Strauss Burleske, Liszt Piano Concerto 2, Bartok, Prokofiev Piano Concerto 1, Mozart 25, and many other pieces like you said. The fact that now she decided to focus on her limited repertoire is her artistic decision - sometimes she goes back e.g. see the Chopin Piano Sonata 3 she recently played --- but stating that Martha has a limited repertoire is really inaccurate because she really showed in her career that she can play anything she wants to play.
@nefertithy
@nefertithy 2 жыл бұрын
@@Paroles_et_Musique "Argerich has a very limited repertoire" are you joking?
@stucoy1
@stucoy1 5 жыл бұрын
Martha's recording of the 3rd Concerto with Abbado is my favourite recording of the piece
@hernanmunozratto5899
@hernanmunozratto5899 5 жыл бұрын
She also played it at Buenos Aires teatro Colón many years ago. I want with my father. Directed by Ligia Amado. She was soooo powerful
@rationalthinker-2024
@rationalthinker-2024 2 жыл бұрын
@@hernanmunozratto5899 kzbin.info/www/bejne/b4i2dqiVl8esipo
@horia4558
@horia4558 4 жыл бұрын
WE NEED THE EMPEROR CONCERTO RECORDING QUEEEN MARTHA
@MrDouxlotus
@MrDouxlotus 5 жыл бұрын
"i used to learn in 3 weeks" hmm okay i guess i'll just cry
@_oooo_4675
@_oooo_4675 4 жыл бұрын
Don't cry, she forgot it after
@kevinseverine2528
@kevinseverine2528 4 жыл бұрын
When you reach a certain level u can learn almost anything within days... But, to play something correctly as she implied, one need time, regardless of one's level. Plus, she is a piannist it's her job...
@jarodfrancocamiloaga7281
@jarodfrancocamiloaga7281 4 жыл бұрын
that literally brought me to shame in a matter of nanoseconds
@zomb7138
@zomb7138 4 жыл бұрын
Just improve your sight reading.
@classicalmusiclover4029
@classicalmusiclover4029 4 жыл бұрын
Alexito It’s not that hard. Learning is a skill
@MaxLima1
@MaxLima1 5 жыл бұрын
My favorite thing in this video is Maria João Pires's reaction at 00:09
@theamateurear
@theamateurear 4 жыл бұрын
Two legendary pianists in one video. Piano historians take note.
@vova47
@vova47 2 жыл бұрын
Only one legend - Martha!
@andrejmarkovich7008
@andrejmarkovich7008 Жыл бұрын
She is so cute! “ I don’t want” LOVE IT!
@xhenimane5114
@xhenimane5114 4 жыл бұрын
The Divas of piano!!!
@TheSzopen123
@TheSzopen123 4 жыл бұрын
DANIEL BARENBOIM ENTERS THE CHAT
@RaineriHakkarainen
@RaineriHakkarainen Ай бұрын
Daniel Barenboim is a second-rated pianist with thin colorless dry cold piano sound! More colorful beautiful piano sound than Barenboim=Wilhelm Kempff Emil Gilels Radu Lupu Artur Rubinstein Vladimir Ashkenazy Grigory Sokolov! More genius than Barenboim=Sviatoslav Richter Solomon Cutner Grigory Sokolov Maurizio Pollini Stanislav Bunin Maria Grinberg Murray Perahia Alexei Lubimov Dinu Lipatti Stanislav Igolinsky! More powerful louder than Barenboim=Mikhail Pletnev! The Second Loudest ever was Lazar Berman! The 3rd Loudest was Erwin Nyiregyhazi! Beethoven wanted louder instruments piano fortes!
@RaineriHakkarainen
@RaineriHakkarainen Ай бұрын
Barenboim is only famous but not that good! Barenboim is the most over-rated ever!
@bw2082
@bw2082 2 жыл бұрын
Not only is Martha the queen of the piano, but also the queen of the humble brag!
@Frances6889
@Frances6889 Жыл бұрын
Yeah. She is very kind and humble, a truly genius lady.
@arturotrevino8524
@arturotrevino8524 Жыл бұрын
I don’t see her as humble in any way, as false humble for sure, “when I used to learn in 3 weeks” that comment is totally unnecessary and in front of another colleague is kind of inappropriate
@bw2082
@bw2082 Жыл бұрын
@@arturotrevino8524 actually she was being humble. She could have learned it in a couple of days if she tried.
@arturotrevino8524
@arturotrevino8524 Жыл бұрын
@@bw2082 I’m not saying she isn’t capable, let’s say, she can learn anything she wants in a weekend, saying that in front of a colleague is kind of presumptuous and unnecessary, and also is not entirely true, she undoubtedly can read and play that concerto in 3 weeks, but when you hear other pianists like Zimmerman, Pogorelich, Hamelin, etc, you know there is more that 3 weeks of sight reading a concerto, that’s why I found Martha false humble,
@somerandomnon-importantper3219
@somerandomnon-importantper3219 Жыл бұрын
​@@arturotrevino8524 I can assure you that this particular colleague, Maria João Pires, does not find that impressive at all. Learning a piece in three weeks may sound impressive to us mortals, but for concert pianists in their prime it's pretty much a triviality
@nefertithy
@nefertithy 2 жыл бұрын
La mejor parte es cuando Joao Pires es 00:41 con el "come on" como diciendo no digas estupideces Martha jjaja. Solo demuestra que Martha es como muchos genios en extremo crítica con sigo misma y perfeccionista.
@BenSadounJeremie
@BenSadounJeremie 4 жыл бұрын
Those times when i used to learn in three weeks... 😵😵😵
@KaisarAnvar
@KaisarAnvar 3 жыл бұрын
Such a humble Queen❤️❤️
@debbenarie
@debbenarie 4 жыл бұрын
CListening to Martha Argerich is like hearing the piano become a drop of magic descended from heaven
@justinbenglick
@justinbenglick 4 жыл бұрын
Nice to see a giant show humility.
@valeo6820
@valeo6820 5 жыл бұрын
Max . You are the BEST. Thank you.
@gerardpaire304
@gerardpaire304 3 жыл бұрын
Elles sont trop mignonnes !! Toutes les deux... "Non non je joue très mal le 3...", "Non non je ne joue pas le 5...". Ce sont d'immenses artistes, et leur modestie n'a d'égal que leur talent !! Elles sont magnifiques, merveilleuses, je les adore !!!
@Qee7en
@Qee7en 4 жыл бұрын
I love how Maria is kind of into it as long as she can do three and four. Martha might as well have screamed NO straight in his face. But my God, imagine if that would have happened...
@AntonGerzenbergPiano
@AntonGerzenbergPiano 5 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure that the Bayerische Rundfunk has a recording of that. I don't have it but I know it exists...
@thetanktoppianist6312
@thetanktoppianist6312 5 жыл бұрын
She learnt the Emperor concerto in what, three weeks?! 😦
@Nettovox
@Nettovox 5 жыл бұрын
Se pra ela, ela toca mal o terceiro concerto, imaginem ela numa banca de piano kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk... Martha é a minha paixão!!!
@pghagen
@pghagen 2 жыл бұрын
I heard Martha saying, in the past she learned 5th concerto in three weeks. But now she said she cannot memorize the concerto within three weeks anymore. She needs more time now. So let's hope she starts studying the 5th concerto again. About 3rd concerto she said, she plays it bad.
@luizfernandg
@luizfernandg 4 жыл бұрын
And do you know that the Ravel's Concerto she really loves is the one for the left hand? But never played it inpublic because "she was afraid of showing too much of herself"!
@MaxLima1
@MaxLima1 4 жыл бұрын
I know that! Such a shame she never played this concerto. It would definitely benefit a lot from her technique and musicality.
@pablogutierrezmendez5673
@pablogutierrezmendez5673 3 жыл бұрын
i had no idea! How did you learn about this?
@luizfernandg
@luizfernandg 3 жыл бұрын
@@pablogutierrezmendez5673 That's in the book L'enfant et les sortileges, her biography! Very interesting book, in french or spanish.
@BuddyStewart94
@BuddyStewart94 4 жыл бұрын
Whenever I see her I wanna hug her.
@facundogonzalez6423
@facundogonzalez6423 4 жыл бұрын
So she played the Emperor...come on Max, find that recording 😄
@christopheeric8218
@christopheeric8218 5 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful video ... do you have more ? 😀
@ligiamoreno8782
@ligiamoreno8782 5 жыл бұрын
Menino, cadê esse vídeo na íntegra? To chorando de rir aqui!! 😂
@MaxLima1
@MaxLima1 5 жыл бұрын
Lígia Moreno kkkkk o vídeo inteiro é sobre um festival, daí a Martha e a Maria João só aparecem em um pedacinho, infelizmente.
@ligiamoreno8782
@ligiamoreno8782 5 жыл бұрын
Saquei...
@harpguy18
@harpguy18 4 жыл бұрын
Guy: we do the complete Beethoven concertos shared between both of you Maria: LOL good luck with that, Martha let’s change the subject look at this measure right here.... Martha: Nope.... cancelled..... next
@fragavillanuevajorgearthur9057
@fragavillanuevajorgearthur9057 3 жыл бұрын
You made my day, LOL
@apsum31
@apsum31 4 жыл бұрын
I want her no.5 with seiji ozawa!!!!!
@lucaspgsanti
@lucaspgsanti 5 жыл бұрын
THATS a question I always wanted to know.
@herrbrucvald6376
@herrbrucvald6376 5 жыл бұрын
why doesn't he understand that she said she doesn't play the 3rd well, not the 1st??
@Angelo-z2i
@Angelo-z2i 4 жыл бұрын
Because the pronunciation is similar
@dannyAU4606
@dannyAU4606 4 жыл бұрын
I think he said third, coz the pronunciation is quite unclear...
@andrewsegrest7040
@andrewsegrest7040 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@tamerlan2677
@tamerlan2677 Жыл бұрын
"The third I play very bad so I don't want"😂
@jeanjeanduchateau9420
@jeanjeanduchateau9420 5 жыл бұрын
Somebody can tell me when and where Martha played the "Emperor" , and with what orchester, and Under whom Conductor;? Jeanjean du Château.
@nikolaacimovic8854
@nikolaacimovic8854 4 жыл бұрын
Elizo Virsaladze hat performed all 5 recent in Tel Aviv for one evening...I think the great pianists are very very critical upon themselfs even knowing of own talent, they know how music performance in its fine details very hard to achieve is...It is far far more than to learn concerto in three weeks...
@MaxLima1
@MaxLima1 4 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you. Eliso is an outstanding pianist, by the way!
@nikolaacimovic8854
@nikolaacimovic8854 4 жыл бұрын
@@MaxLima1 Yes...I am glad that you like her performance...Maria Joao and Martha also,in their own ways... I would also add Idil Biret,turkish pianist as one of the greatest female pianist ever.She is 75 now,very modest person and her Repertoir is outstandig and her musical abilities are enorm great...Check her recordings,you would love it...I sm pretty sure...
@pneron2032
@pneron2032 2 жыл бұрын
That's too much. Who wants to sit through 5 concerti?! Not me
@PM_ME_MESSIAEN_PICS
@PM_ME_MESSIAEN_PICS 8 ай бұрын
yvonne loriod learned bartok 2 in eight days
@JuliaPikalova
@JuliaPikalova 4 жыл бұрын
I wish I could see the opposite - how they both fight for Beethoven: "I want to play the 5th! -- No, I want to play the 5th!" I find it sad that they both are saying: not me...
@myklkay
@myklkay 2 жыл бұрын
I want to play the 3rd as bad as her....
@MaxLima1
@MaxLima1 2 жыл бұрын
hahahaahaha
@rigel48
@rigel48 5 жыл бұрын
I find it strange, and at the same time sad, the way this artist has to devalue herself. She says she plays the third concerto very badly? her recording with Abbado is far from bad, and was also awarded a Grammy Award in 2005. For the fifth concerto, if she likes it, and with maybe a little more preparation, she should be an excellent performer. She has the strength and the nobility of soul for it. As for the fourth, her refusal to play it, and the explanation she gives for it, has more psychological aspects than musical aspects. For someone who rightly claims to be a good interpreter of Beethoven, it is very confusing. There are many pianists who are much less gifted than her and who do not have as many scruples to play the complete set of Beethoven concertos.
@jameshakai1662
@jameshakai1662 4 жыл бұрын
It's a common trait of high level artists to be extremely self critical, though I do agree that Martha here is being TOO critical
@Steinwaytoday
@Steinwaytoday 4 жыл бұрын
well, Pires does play the 4th one amazingly. But you're right about the other things.
@Quotenwagnerianer
@Quotenwagnerianer 4 жыл бұрын
The woman is turning 79 this year. At that age even professional musicians do not expand their concert repertoire any longer. They only play what is stored in their muscle memory for decades. So if Martha does not have the Beethoven Concerti prepared, she certainly will not learn it now at that age. That is simply unrealistic.
@willemboone7912
@willemboone7912 3 жыл бұрын
@@Quotenwagnerianer There are exceptions though: he uniqiue Shura Cherkassky learnt Ives' Three page sonata when he was 82!
@MrInterestingthings
@MrInterestingthings Жыл бұрын
Pires is looking at the music. Classical musicians are looking at the same damn scores for 70 years even the orchestra players have he same music. Is she looking at Martha's writings on the score.Ive never heard Pirez in Beethoven yet the little lady won the Beethoven prize .I cant imagine her in op.53,57,op.10 certainly not Hammerklavier . I can't imagine her even in the 2Chopin Sonatas !
@carlosjavierguzman1509
@carlosjavierguzman1509 5 жыл бұрын
El Concerto 1 lo toca fabulosamente, las mejores versiones que escuché son de ella . Lo mismo el N° 2. El 3° no podría decirlo porque directamente no me gusta la obra. Me encantaría escucharla tocando el N° 5.
@pneron2032
@pneron2032 2 жыл бұрын
I want to know what Maria Joao was going to say about the sforzando
@markgreen2146
@markgreen2146 5 жыл бұрын
アルゲリッチの皇帝は、キャンセルされた苦い思い出が(T . T) ピリスとアルゲリッチ。なんて豪華な!
@tabd6840
@tabd6840 5 жыл бұрын
ゲルリッチまるちゃん 皇帝キャンセルして、モーツァルトに変わったんでしたっけ?
@markgreen2146
@markgreen2146 4 жыл бұрын
こんばんは。 そうです。グルダ追悼で。しかし皇帝キャンセルのショックが大きくて、モーツァルト20番のコンチェルトの演奏会には行きませんでした(T_T)
@zebeauv
@zebeauv Жыл бұрын
Ce quiproquo… j’adore !
@juanjosenamnuntavarez7553
@juanjosenamnuntavarez7553 3 жыл бұрын
Vaya...y ahora lo tocarà?
@davidgoodman8280
@davidgoodman8280 Жыл бұрын
Did Martha ever play the 2nd PC of Rachmaninov?
@MaxLima1
@MaxLima1 Жыл бұрын
Not at all. I am not sure, but I believe it was announced she would play it some time in the 1980s but then she didn't
@alexpappas6290
@alexpappas6290 4 жыл бұрын
That man (conductor?) looks familiar - who is he?
@TheIpazia1
@TheIpazia1 5 жыл бұрын
Peccato! Sarà poi possibile che Argerich suoni male il 5? Se lo dice lei! Interessante il video, grazie mille per la condivisione Max 🤗
@skyrim7750
@skyrim7750 5 жыл бұрын
È un'affermazione da rispettare ma da prendere con largo beneficio di inventario. Anche Lazar Berman non era soddisfatto delle sue incisioni degli studi trascendentali di Liszt, eppure a noi appaiono (e sono) dei capolavori interpretativi.....
@ezequielstepanenko3229
@ezequielstepanenko3229 4 жыл бұрын
Not very well in argerich's standards means heavenly awesome in normal people's standars
@angramainiuu
@angramainiuu 4 жыл бұрын
My reaction: 0:41 🤣
@머유니-p6h
@머유니-p6h 5 жыл бұрын
hahaha
@YonatanSetbon
@YonatanSetbon 4 жыл бұрын
cmon martha, mr pawn is board T.T
@flagelumdei8138
@flagelumdei8138 2 жыл бұрын
She can't-. Also Brahms. Her repertoire is very limited. Lets face it.
@DanielLopez-zt4ig
@DanielLopez-zt4ig 4 жыл бұрын
Cake sound logged in.
@tobiaspeter6555
@tobiaspeter6555 7 ай бұрын
So, actually, Martha has a very small repertoire and doesn't play very many pieces up to any standard worth mentioning, and why bother ... and so forth.
@jjgghhjk
@jjgghhjk 7 ай бұрын
Chopin? Schumann? Ravel? Prokofiev? Liszt? please, go see a shrink.
@tobiaspeter6555
@tobiaspeter6555 7 ай бұрын
@@jjgghhjk :-DDDD You seem to have totally misread my ironic comment. Go see a shrink yourself!
@flexaeterna
@flexaeterna 3 жыл бұрын
Gosh what an awkward dialogue
@maelperron_guerra4946
@maelperron_guerra4946 4 жыл бұрын
This is just humble bragging...
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