Did MSI Fix the Claw? - MSI Claw A1M Post-Update Review

[@HanSolo__]

"I'm not so much into handhelds..." Pulls out three pieces. 😄 Cool video. Euro tech/gaming hardware channels FTW!

[@michaelthompson9798]

Awesome to see our Techtesters Team 🥰💪👍smashing out the videos and I’m always looking forward to their reviews 😇🥰🥳

[@TechTesters]

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[@CraftBeerTastic]

How does she do these all in one take? Zero jump cuts! 10 out of 10!

[@Daniele-c3w]

Interesting video, but I don't think it's a one take^^

[@HanSolo__]

Daniel Owen does 2-3 takes in 20min+ video. All with zero script. But he is a teacher.

[@Daniele-c3w]

@@HanSolo__ This is not a single take

[@jonathont5570]

100 redos lol

[@Tintin_desi_billa]

She's on fire! 3 vids in 3 days

[@FuelX]

Yes, so many videos this week!

[@CrackedMB]

True

[@shreyasdharashivkar8027]

TeamGroup T-Force Z540 SSD is out and I am excited for its review man.

[@FuelX]

@@shreyasdharashivkar8027 I also want a SABRENT Rocket 5 and Crucial T705 reviews. Maybe Nada will eventually rank the latest gen5 nvme against each other.

[@bigjalapeno5347]

There's been a bunch of updates, I'd be interested in watching a revisit!

[@zeo_here]

If you had a handheld gaming channel id watch for sure🤣 your shots are amazing.

[@robertcochran7103]

Thank you for posting this excellent evaluation of the MSI handheld. I really appreciate the points you make. I have no experience with handheld gaming platforms, but I really like how well you present. The videography itself is outstanding. I hope tht MSI and Intel respond with corrections to the issues that you point out. Thank you so much for an excellent product analysis.

[@Xanduur]

I can’t get over how goofy and cool the name of this is…THE CLAW!!!!!

[@Bert439]

The biggest issue with these other gaming handhelds is that they are squeezing in 1080p high refresh rate screens. When they should have just slapped in a 720p 90hz screen instead. Valve knew their hardware was under-powered at launch and opted for a 60hz 800p screen.

[@thomaszinecker1785]

They dropped with outdated old gen 2 junk

[@blind9376]

glad someone has done this to compare with the early bad reviews

[@hk6926]

When a sponsored video can't still save a product 😂😂😂

[@draco2xx]

future pc handheld devices looks promising especially how convenient it is, ps5 and xbox will eventually become irrelevant except for exclusives. im very excited too see what asus, msi and other tech companies will make

[@shaolin95]

Legion Go is the current King

[@thomaszinecker1785]

It is

[@NateNakao]

It's also worth looking at a company's track record with regards to customer service and whether or not they learn from their mistakes. Both MSI and Asus ROG have developed terrible reputations for their customer service while Valve is known for being very customer-friendly. Obviously, any company can change and improve, but just like you shouldn't buy a product based on what it promises to offer in the future, it's unwise to buy something from a company known for bad CS based on their promises to turn things around.

[@itashious]

Actually, just bought this for my nephew for his 10th birthday since he seem to be getting into PC gaming, I had been looking at the ally for a while and switch to this option because it was a bit cheaper and more affordable I know it certainly doesn’t perform as well as the asus ally but for a 10-year-old it’s going to be just fine, new egg offered a free 1Tb micro sd pro card to go with it, and also MSI is a pretty good company that I trust that they’ll come out with fixes in the future give them some time

[@ToGrimmToWin]

Ally is considerably cheaper for me

[@clem9808]

I really want the flexy aesthetic of this device. It's the most bad ass aesthetic around for now.

[@NuckenFoob]

interesting that your cyberpunk was stuttering so much, with latest Intel drivers i've seen other reviewers getting 50fps+ on 1080p and no stutters. did you update the intel drivers or just the MSI BIOS?

[@TechTesters]

Both of course.

[@djbuknard]

@@TechTesters It definitely isn't consistent with other reviews and my own experience. With Bios 106 (as in your video) and the most up-to-date arc drivers at the time of your video most people got over 50fps. With Bios 109 or 10a plus the latest drivers and extreme performance with overboost, Cyberpunk is now averaging closer to 70fps, a massive difference to the 30fps and stutterfest in your video. Sadly I think something was missed in the settings? Also Baldurs Gate 3 is now considerably smoother (as is Starfield). All that said it was a great review but I would love to see an update! I have the SD Oled, Claw and LeGo and the Claw is now my favourite handheld!

[@Patrick73787]

Nice and fair review Nada. Keep up the good work. Personally I would never buy an Intel Arc based handheld that doesn't come with at least 32GB of RAM as they typically need more RAM than their Radeon counterparts. 16GB is simply not enough for the MSI Claw especially in those heavier titles showcased here.

[@unkown34x33]

also doesn't matter how big the battery is... without proper optimization it doesn't matter. it's really sad that I'm outside picked Intel and I was trying to pick up the pace.... fire the board members lol

[@zocher1969]

Why is DLSS next to the titles at 3:19, ARC graphics doesnt have DLSS support. Did you mean XESS or FSR?

[@Kumoiwa]

I am confused as well... Should be XeSS right? I think XeSS is actually one of the strongest selling points of the Claw

[@TechTesters]

You’re completely right. Force of habbit. Will pin a comment later today to clarify!

[@Narwhalicorn0204]

Better hardware doesn't mean much when the frame times are inconsistent. Which is a problem on all windows handhelds. I'll wait for when Steam Deck 2 comes out to upgrade

[@ifredtandy]

Excellent review. It would be nice if you recorded various computer peripherals.

[@nimbulan2020]

The battery life is behind the Steam Deck, but it's definitely ahead of the other Windows handhelds.

[@darrooxx]

Een eerlijke en echte recente die je bij andere niet ziet.

[@TechTesters]

Always. 👍💪

[@LifeoftheWarrior]

Thanks for the video! Will you do a comparison on the PC handhelds?

[@TechTesters]

Welcome! Not sure yet, maybe if some interesting models come out?

[@kensredemption]

I’m sorry, my brain has to strain to focus between the three different accents I’m hearing. lol

[@usmcmsgt5487]

Steam Deck OLED 1TB is awesome and no issues so far.

[@urband10]

In my country, after rebates it cost me around 300 usd, and I'm planning to use it with geforce now, for me it's perfect.

[@MegaKiri11]

When Asus ROG Ally X releases in black with larger battery... they will look indistinguishable!

[@xxneroxxx4996]

I don't see a problem with hardware at all the problem seems to be optimization everyone is making games for AMD and invidea, Intel ARC is still brand new and is not optimized yet. Even AMD isn't fully uptimized AMD driver updates have broken games that have been around forever Luke skyrim fallout 4 and falloutnv. I actually like Intel is trying to take on AMD in the APU market they just clearly need more optimization

[@godmagnus]

Oooh, the claw's gonna get ya! You're afraid of the claw!

[@arthurmorgan1724]

Did you upgrade your gpu from a 3080ti to a 4090 . Just asking because a couple of months ago i saw a lady who was reviewing her 4090 said that she was upgrading from a 3080ti for work and i was like damn i wanna do this kind of a work . Anyways I didn’t knew that you were a gamer mom , so i subbed immediately . Extremely jealous of your kids 😊😊.

[@TechTesters]

Hope I helped? :)

[@darrooxx]

I see the intel arc structure is not fast and have enough performance than the ryzen handhelds ?? Is that opion right ?

[@fearless_H2]

I would take the Steam Deck over other handhelds. I like Linux and I don't mind tinkering if I need to. Also, at 3:09, there's brackets at the average fps for Tony Hawk Pro Skater. Is that just a typo or is the game capped at a specific fps?

[@DallasUzumaki]

Can it run games on high settings? Or should i buy a 4070 laptop?

[@stefistefi6069]

you should test in 720p...

[@johnathaan1]

Very insightful video the only piece of feedback I'd have is that you mention the steam deck alot in this video which personally I dont think is a fair comparison seeing how the os is completely different windows is notoriously bad for power management on mobile hardware and has been for a long time not to mention that the steam decks steamos is built for the steam deck and its hardware and valve has their thumb on the pulse of the specific branch of linux they're using for their system personally I am very surprised to hear the battery life gains you experienced with this system seeing how intel is also known for laughable power efficiency on mobile and desktop I am extremely glad to see a company go with a processor that isnt amd honestly its been getting boring seeing z1 extreme and 7840u and 8840u systems on the market it was making the market very stale in terms of content for those systems there's only so many videos u can watch on the same chip in handhelds before it sounds all the same which is no fault of the content creators

[@johnathaan1]

I also agree with the fact that the msi claw is very expensive and the lower end model with the core ultra 5 needs to be cheaper even further then it is currently

[@JuanCAraujoS]

I think Valve saw it all quite early. Microsoft might become the one blocking the way for handhelds.

[@shreyasdharashivkar8027]

The new TeamGroup T-Force Z540 SSD is out. Will you review it?

[@TechTesters]

I'll see if I can grab one :)

[@gregyance9901]

I do not believe that you play videogames, but your insight is great as always

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

at least the person is true bro 😬

[@wilddogwatching6457]

thank u for the lego links in the description!

[@daftpunk672]

I wonder if this device would perform worse/same/better if it had SteamOS or something akin to it loaded onto it?

[@dangerwr]

SteamOS is currently built around the Steam Deck's hardware, which is AMD based, so it probably wouldn't go well without having to jump through hoops to work with Intel. I have no idea what Arc is like on Linux, but that would be an immediate indicator.

[@daftpunk672]

@@dangerwr your not wrong but that’s why I said “something akin to it” but maybe that’s why you don’t really see something like it. As it is a pretty big investment to delve into and then support, but maybe the could use those SteamOS alts like ChimeraOS as long as it still supports Arc I guess.

[@yasirrakhurrafat1142]

​@@daftpunk672chimera, bazzite (kinda the same as chimera). Needs to be tried on it!

[@Mohat1991]

TBH, Although it's true that other Handhelds have been out for a while and are more mature in product and optimization, but this is something that MSI already knew when they were launching the Claw. They have introduced a product that in some cases is more expensive than the Legion or Deck, and at the same time with much less performance and optimisation. I think this product is simply not worth it even in the long term. And its not like they are creating something new or new competition, as Intel is doing with Arc vs Nvidia and AMD, its just some corporate greed which wants a piece of this market without any innovation or at least good performance.

[@nathanjuan6042]

Rog Ally Z1 extreme is a better buy. I was considering buying a switch lite before then I saw a demo unit of ROG Ally and tried it and fell in love of it for the first try. The weight and feel is great perfect in my hands and its very light as well and the screen 1080p with VRR I tried the Horizon 5 looks great on it never experienced any lag or stutter and the game looks very sharp and crisp on it having 1080p with 120hz . I never regret buying it and very happy with my purchase having to play gamepass because it has free 3 month game pass, epic games, Alan Wake, Kingdom Hearts , Genshin Impact and my Steam games there is no limitations to it and the Armory Crate is very clean and easy to use. I'd say it was perfect if it weren't for the battery life but hey I can sacrifice battery life if I can play all PC games and in 1080p.

[@unkown34x33]

based on everything I saw, yes for me the ally is the one! z1 extreme of course

[@kennymccormick8295]

A light switch? Switch light? Maybe you should look into a Switch LITE.

[@DenkoYugo]

Feels like a good first product, let's hope the follow up irons some things out

[@TechTesters]

Exactly!

[@hokayson6518]

You have to assume Intel strong-armed MSI into using Arc over AMD, I'd have thought by making Arc dirt cheap to buy from them but judging by the retail price that's not the case! Maybe it was a discount on their broader CPU catalogue for their laptops or something. I like competition, but it's gotta actually be a close competition, not...this 😄!

[@EGMGaming712]

You should try out the ROG Ally as well!

[@TechTesters]

I wanted to grab one but at this point I'll probably wait for the Ally 2. Annoys me a bit that the SD card issue still persists.

[@majinmal1072]

⁠@@TechTestersexactly this. I would like a more powerful handheld to pair with my steam deck oled le (which I love and use more than my beastly gaming pc) but I refuse to spend that kind of money on a product that I know has defects. That along with ASUS scummy practices makes me hesitant. I may get a Legion Go or wait to see what improvements ASUS makes to the Ally X.

[@qwerty6789x]

holding the Claw. 1. Windows OS 2. Intel hardware

[@derbelgischefrank]

hi..buy or not buy????????

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

they kind of makes my older posts obsolete lol, but good for everyone

[@Rkcuddles]

Ooo I love those pants!

[@jaynosowsky9708]

You should of just bought the rog ally ...it destroys all of them...everything is amazing but the SD card reader...but ibjust upgraded the ssd ...so don't need it.

[@Xanduur]

So several games didn’t work with the system when it first came out. Just like my steam deck. Still love the deck, but there are games. I just can’t play on it.

[@marcusgillespie8343]

How much was she paid to promote the dead claw

[@Kingvoakahustla]

You need to review the real best handheld gaming unit the ROG ally X. Ally X beat them all. Hand down.

[@OledBurnInKing]

I hope that msi will make an msi titan in a handheld gaming device with msi dragon center and msi afterburner. I wonder how msi claw handles games like control, crysis remastered, metro exodus enhanced edition, and microsoft flight simulator etc. I like these games due to graphics especially crysis remastered with can it run crysis mode since crysis remastered is my favorite game to play as use a reference and benchmark. Crysis remastered is my reference and benchmark because of can it run crysis mode in every graphics settings with native resolution, upscaling like dlss and other upscaling settings are always off since I never upscale the games. I always have dlss always off, v always off, v sync always off, the maxed out graphics sliders maxed out for every game, unlimited frame rates always enabled and frame rate cap always off for games that support these settings. For crysis remastered, can it run crysis mode always on intentionally because that's how I play. Ray tracing always enabled, dlss always off, v sync always off, motion blur always off, ray tracing experimental boost always enabled. I use these crysis remastered graphics settings on purpose when playing in native 4k on pc since I like to play the game that demands every last bit of hardware with can it run crysis mode because I enjoy the graphics alone. If there was an option for can it run crysis mode for every game, I would always enable it even when the game struggles to play the game at any decent frame rate.

[@ronm6585]

Thank you.

[@TechTesters]

You're welcome!

[@juliaskriek9700]

Still can’t make up my mind buying a steam deck vs an other handheld…

[@TechTesters]

I'll just say I'm happy with my SD OLED as a pick up and play device for travelling.

[@juliaskriek9700]

@@TechTesters okay, :) I’m almost sold to SD…the only thing I worry about is that the RoG or any other handheld has “better” hardware for almost the same price or slightly higher right now… im building a good steam library and I play heavy games on console but I want those heavy games running on a handheld as well

[@maxdave9590]

Just buy the LENOVO GO, it's better, it's easily upgradeable interms of the NVME ssd, and it's got a Bigger screen, better for your eyes

[@BleepBlop-rh9lm]

Why did they go with intel though? It's much worse compared to AMD 8840s or something.

[@afistfulofpimples1745]

Why don't you use proper grammar?

[@VarjoPira]

Ally Extreme just went on sale for 649€ here. Core 7 Claw is around 999€, with extremely (ha) weak retailing. I always root for the underdog, but that is quite the hole you're in, MSI.

[@temmychristianto6905]

My battery stuck in 80% msi claw A1M, please help

[@_TrueDesire_]

Battery saving feature, never drop below 10% and never go above 80%.

[@sheratedis]

Intel ARC just can't compete right now with AMD graphics. Nothing wrong with CPU performance

[@finraziel]

You're really comparing it against the wrong product... The first choice when looking for a handheld is steam deck or windows. Windows has some advantages which is almost all of the advantages that you mentioned for the claw. But if you do go for windows, then you'd have to compare the claw against the ROG ally and the legion go (and maybe all the Chinese handhelds). Crucially all those others have AMD SOCs (basically all kind of the same one too). So really the question first is AMD or Intel? And while I love that Intel is trying to break into more powerful graphics, for now I really wouldn't recommend buying them unless they're way cheaper. And they're not. So for now if you want a windows handheld, going with the claw is the sucker choice. Go for one of the AMD handheld and you get all the windows advantages but with proper reliable performance from AMD. And that's only if you want windows, to be clear. Personally I don't, I much prefer my steam deck.

[@jackykwan2580]

Don't know why MSI want to shoot themselves on the foot with this and hurting their brand with this product since they spend so much money marketing their brand for performance and gaming. This is just such a bad marketing move.

[@siqthepunk]

Just drop the price below the rog ally, it will fix everything.

[@AM93000]

Stunning

[@bad_emil8945]

Intel can't even be properly cooldown on dekstop immagine on this mess

[@deathshade777]

Why you compared the 2 worst handhelds and not the real systems with the z1 extreme like the rog ally x

[@Goalier95]

no thanks MSI/Intel.... will put my money down for the ROG Ally 2024... great timing MSI

[@TechTesters]

I'm still happy with my SD so far, but curious what the Ally 2 will bring.

[@Goalier95]

@@TechTesters I love my OG Steam Deck, didn't upgrade to the OLED model but I sure do miss the power/VRR screen and better Windows apps of the ROG Ally...just didn't like the SD card issue and poor battery life. I'll give it to MSI for trying though.

[@latibass]

Software updates can't fix bad hardware.

[@Testimony201]

Simple. But some Manufacturers can fix that tho, to some extent. Let’s use the Google pixel’s camera for example prior to the 6 series and beyond. I know it’s different but at least u get the point.

[@TechTesters]

Seeing how much Arc has changed since launch, I'd say software can do a lot more than we'd expect. Still need more though.

[@l.light_9]

​@@TechTesters 💯

[@Saif0412]

I'm afraid the Arc GPU just isn't on the level of the the AMD 780m, plus the fact that it's way more expensive means there's basically no reason by the MSI Claw.

[@danavidal8774]

​@@Saif0412I think the GPU can, problem with iGPUs is that are CPU dependant and Intel CPUs are just not efficient at all so less power to the GPU, it will never overcome that problem

[@unkown34x33]

unfortunately with this price point, terrible implementation of upgradability, with Intel burning, no amount of update will fix this thing....

[@davelaion]

Dead on arrival. Nice vid!

[@mariotomenbang2955]

The claw is not fixed. It broke a nail

[@maxim_si]

Why are u using FSR and DLSS but not Xees????

[@TechTesters]

That was a typo. Will post a new image asap

[@vinterskog]

Just buy an Ally.

[@jamaalmeans6984]

Everyone just get the rog

[@Gamezone-ze3oz]

Lol the Asus ROG Ally 2 is getting announced today.

[@dt6esdff413]

fr?

[@calmarfps]

That was quick. Instead fixing and tweaking the problems of the V1, Greedy Asus went with V2 and wants money.

[@Gamezone-ze3oz]

@@calmarfps Asus have actually done a great software job on the ROG Ally

[@Gamezone-ze3oz]

@@dt6esdff413 in a few hours yes

[@KarlParl]

Not it isn't. It was the Rog Ally X, and they didn't really give any details.

[@miketran4289]

Nah.. it's junk thanks to being a Intel device. You are better off with a new Asus Rog Ally X or a Lenovo Legion Go with AMD

[@jeji5860]

800$ but worse than 600$ Rog ally? No thanks

[@senseidownhill5081]

There‘s no review to the deck ? My day is ruined …

[@outlet6989]

Hi Nada, I hope your day is full of fine things and even better wine. Your video didn't interest me as I'm addicted to PCs. I only watched your entire video because I like watching you more. Have a nice day and enjoy your wine.

[@TechTesters]

I will, thank you and you too!

[@doultonevans]

Yeah the video she makes are great but that product from MSI is the purest of JUNK AND have the nerve to sell at premium price not humble at all on the entry into market with there prices don’t be a experiment subject!

[@kalitvenec]

😊

[@mapuiatluanga3202]

👍👍❤❤❤

[@Pro4TLZZ]

Its s bad product

[@ManFromManila83]

Yup, thats the MSI Flaw!

[@patrickcadette]

😁😁😁👍👍👍

[@OscarOmarPosadaSanchez]

❤👋🏾🇲🇽

[@Claud1995]

nice ad, msi still bad

[@hokayson6518]

Not a great ad when the conclusion is "don't buy it" 😄