Did NBA take the indefinite Draymond Green suspension too far? | NBA | SPEAK

Emmanuel Acho, Joy Taylor, LeSean McCoy and James Jones reflect on whether the NBA took Draymond Green's indefinite suspension too far or not.
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[@OPrime9]

This show is starting to turn up, that intro was creative!! I like the energy they have with this cast. Great stuff SPEAK!!

[@D.ocument.The.Journey]

This been the best show since Shannon left undisputed tbh this the only sports show besides nightcap I watch now lol

[@deonpowe9259]

Agree but they let shady get away wth awful takes. Shady takes are more abt who he likes and joy always agree wth him although joy is very knowledgeable. James is the only person tht challenges him on the show. Acho does sometimes but joy never does; joy does hve unique perspectives whn she goes there but most of her takes are lead by shady's opinion!

[@OPrime9]

@@deonpowe9259 I can’t disagree w that fully, but every show/cast has its biases and flaws. Keep in mind these 4 haven’t been together for very long; they were experimenting with a bunch of different cast mates for awhile. So like any set of coworkers, it’s going to take some time to gel and get things right. The First Things First cast has years under its belt, I think if Speak can hold onto these 4 long enough I think they have the potential to be at least as good as that show (which I also like a lot).

[@ViPushN4More]

Get Shady a defibrillator. My boy was dying during this segment 😂. Good start to the show 💯

[@kingdawg5830]

​@deonpowe9259 Both Shady and Joy are Pennsylvania natives, Joy from Pittsburgh and Shady from Harrisburg. Both have Pittsburgh ties and bias to some degree with Shady being a former Pitt Panther. It sort of makes sense that they share the same bias and even perspective about things

[@MarvKevea93]

He’s out of control. Period. No excuses.

[@mathewdistefano2489]

I’m really tired of seeing him assault all of these players and not take any responsibility for it. When other players take cheap shots at him and the crowd cheers, then he’s the victim. Draymond is a punk and I could care less if he never plays again.

[@ricboy8296]

Yup! This isn't football or hockey

[@hoverpilder1905]

Draymond Green = Narcissist and a Bully

[@hoverpilder1905]

@@ricboy8296 or UFC

[@tokdo4960]

Draymond should have been suspended indefinitely after the Adams groin kick. He's finally not getting super carried by all stars like steph, KD, Klay, and Iguodala. Even now they didn't permanently fire him. It's disrespectful to the rest of the players.

[@hoverpilder1905]

@@tokdo4960 and disrespectful to the league itself. They enabled him, now they have to tolerate him

[@UjuNduka]

I don’t understand how Shady has said all Dray’s past actions were justifiable but is also saying that the league let this go own for too long so he blames them for letting it get too far and not checking him earlier…was it all good in the past or was it problematic but ignored? Not making sense.

[@darrengordon-hill]

Don't think too hard shout the dumb things "shady" people say

[@kingphayce5778]

It makes a lot of sense if you are capable of objectively. Stop acting like you don't understand the concept. When you are winning or succeeding and making a lot of money, people have a tendency to overlook a great many questionable actions or behaviors. Only when ish hits the fan or things go left does reality strike and wonder "how could we not have seen this from him?" YOU KNOW DAM WELL WHY🤷🏾‍♂️

[@loststoryproductions]

Man the beginning is so extra 😂

[@betonblack3621]

It's why I love this show

[@tigers7834]

They must have forgotten how many times he kicked people in the groin. That was crazy back then and he was never checked for that back then

[@DJTheoSF]

That is Nuts!

[@bbyflip1]

don’t forget eye poking

[@kennethsherrill5021]

Right! Kicked my man Adams in the nuts twice 😂

[@ricboy8296]

I wouldn't mind seeing him suspended for more than 40 games to teach him a lesson

[@tigers7834]

I had forgotten about the eye pokes and him just tackling people or grabbing people out the air

[@masterscheme1]

Exactly Acho... And the thing is... Spiritual discipline is what maximizes you... because it's our foundation... if your emotional responses is similar to a toddler... then you have not grown up... and when you have a lot of talent and other things that guard you from accountability... you often don't see the need for maturing spiritually... which was the primary point of us being planted here to begin with... Either way we prepare for this... and EVERYONE is capable of emotional control... ego stops that... he don't even want to truly apologize... same things toddlers do... We Love em though and definitely gonna pray for him...

[@WhatAboutsAndWhatifs]

Amen

[@TheRealMichaelP]

Ayo Acho explaining himself when describing the Pastor was nuts 😂

[@Dazza0187]

The excuses for Draymond Green are amazing, now he has anger issues and needs help? If you behaved this way in any other company you would be fired from your job and if you behaved this way in public you'd be up on assault charges. And it's not like this is a one-off incident!

[@glorypaxson]

Classic athlete special treatment. As soon as he is in the real world full time he will do something dumb and hopefully then the world throws the book at him.

[@darrengordon-hill]

CAPES ON FOR DRAYMOND

[@williambrightman1375]

​@@glorypaxsonspecial rules for special talents,until you're talent isn't so special.

[@johndough6206]

@@glorypaxson lmao you literally praying for another mans downfall. Jealousy is a beast

[@glorypaxson]

@@johndough6206 jealousy? Lmao The guy is rich sure...but im.not jealous of a guy who is clearly not right in the head. Jealousy is reserved for people like LeBron who have all the talent in the world AND have their life in order. Draymond is no one to be jealous of.

[@postmastersgt1670]

😂This is really becoming my favorite and most entertaining show.

[@mrblue___]

Yup. Close second. I usually watch it last lol

[@Boomi_Dog]

First things first better

[@natefrierson776]

@@Boomi_Doglol

[@Chingon559]

His actions cost the Warriors a chip. If that didn’t change his behavior, nothing will.

[@Flare8124]

Funny because Warriors fans who want him gone say he was carried to those chips but also say they lost because he missed one game lol which one is it?

[@JArchie_317]

But he won 4

[@stevebrown985]

Cost them a chip and Kevin Durant

[@cedriclloyd5571]

Being that they won the next year, it wouldn't change as he feel he repaid it back by not getting suspended in the next Finals

[@jjparks9263]

He has 4 rings lmao that’s not even a factor

[@marcomena9331]

Shady - Joy - JJ - "get him some help." This is the same crew, except acho, who were cool w/dray putting gobert in a headlock. Now he's gone too far?!? Huh?

[@PaulWilliams-rw8ci]

This had nothing to do with a teammate

[@darrengordon-hill]

"Help a struggling millionaire" Worst charity ever!!!

[@williseabon894]

Exactly!!! This is the comment I was looking for...

[@johndough6206]

gobert deserved it

[@Mannythedon24]

Joy was waiting to throw in that towel 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@scavara]

He deserved the suspension because of his actions. I see nothing wrong with the decision. Keep up the good work Adam Silver.

[@billeh60]

Okay Karen

[@breannamaiden9970]

​@@billeh60Its facts he makes poor decisions

[@salvadorsanchez3031]

⁠@@breannamaiden9970worse he gets away with poking eyes and flagrant fouls on NBA Players like Kyrie, LeBron, JJ, Jokic

[@bwebb8924]

Adam Silver is absent. David Stern woulda been front and center laying down the suspension

[@FatherofFFD]

🎯

[@Tyler1999_]

I love this show man. Hilarious and the chemistry is everything. I look forward to seeing this show all the time. 😂💯

[@mattgibney4085]

Look forward to? Yea naw but I’m not gonna lie it’s improved from what it was. This still fox worst sports talk show

[@bernardocantu77]

anyone know why david helman left? i mean i know he has his own show? but did he leave just for that? i liked him and mccoy arguing. now its boring.

[@Tyler1999_]

@@mattgibney4085 yeah I mean everyone is entitled to their own opinions. If that’s what you think, good for you man. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@Tyler1999_]

@@bernardocantu77 this show isn’t boring. If it’s so boring, Why are you here? You obviously just want attention right? SPEAK is a top 3 show in my opinion with Shady McCoy, Joy Taylor, Emmanuel Acho, and James Jones.

[@mattgibney4085]

@@Tyler1999_ one thing is my opinions and another is the fact this has less viewers than undisputed or first thing first

[@kenbright8417]

He the reason Durant left

[@dwightwordlaw5170]

Right

[@giffondhall9214]

Fax

[@kenbright8417]

So how I see he messed up a lot of championships

[@natefrierson776]

Durant should’ve never went there

[@tedgraham6548]

Draymon knows how the rules works and he knows players don’t want to get injected like him. Draymond knows good and well if he did this in the mid 90’s early he would have got jumped and stomped.

[@coreejacobs4780]

Yup, I think he knows people are too afraid or maybe don’t even care enough to check him back and he uses it to his advantage which is kinda corny because you’re kind of bullying people you know either can’t or won’t fight back

[@michaelmalone1028]

Injected lol

[@theanalyticalrevolutionary3415]

I love how they keep glossing over the real issue regarding Draymond 😮

[@Keokzz]

I’m deeeeaaaad 💀 wasn’t expecting that intro. Shady was hitting them combos with form 😂

[@victoronumbu1035]

These guys are wild for boxing

[@sanbell]

I heard the opening segment on Sirius and needed the video bad.

[@masterscheme1]

If Draymond wanted to grow up for real... He woulda had about 7 chips possibly... 1 for the Lebron 1 and likely another few with Durant wasn't alienated...

[@javarzshinall9396]

You can say that about 80s basketball players but they say the league soft but they let guys hit u

[@TownBizz-r1d]

Dey might have 6 cuz if he ain't f upn 16 dey would not have 17&18 so u never know

[@masterscheme1]

@@javarzshinall9396 I think we have trouble confusing physical play with toddler level emotional control and that being tough... two fighters can literally fight each other to a bloody pulp and don't have these feelings towards each other... Why do we even have refs..? if someone can just do this over and over... is it going to take a major injury or death for us to take it seriously..? Is that how we gonna teach kids to deal with things when they are frustrated..? just violate anytime you just frustrated... where is the line..?

[@jasonandrews1770]

If he did what he did anywhere else hed be in jail by now. But because its on a basketball court its just " passionate play"

[@smk4428]

😂 this show is crazy now 😂 you can tell they like each other

[@Omgitzhuncho]

“This isn’t even an old school thing to do” well based on how they talk about it basketball was basically Wwe back then so🤷🏽‍♂️

[@AilmanF2P]

Players weren't sucker punching people back in the day, it was physical but to stop you from getting easy points. Backhanding someone thats not even looking at you is not old school basketball.

[@tinman67tn]

Shady just exerted more energy that he did during the two seasons he was given Super Bowl rings..........combined.

[@mosessam9929]

This is the time the speak hosts have read the information and really provided the right kind of advice. If I am an athlete I would listen to this kind of advice to further help my team rather than be off the court. We love you Dray, you'll figure it out and get back in top form. Hopefully we'll not wait too long

[@popsc3202]

He's heading towards a Ron Artest moment. Need to get this squared away fast!

[@ScoKnows]

I don't think he THAT tough

[@popsc3202]

@@ScoKnows Its just a matter of time before he karate chops a spectator on the jugular!

[@ScoKnows]

@@popsc3202 😂😂😂😂

[@stuartperry8141]

Why did they need that? i think he gets too much credit for his emotional leadership. The first championship he may have help lead the team with Steph and Klay. I believe Kevin Durant had more to do with the winning the next two Championships then he did. The last championship - Poole, Wiggins, along with Steph carried the team.

[@MrMenace3210]

A dude can get caught on cam slumping his teammate and the teammate gets traded, AND the guy collects his ring days later - you think that guy knows anything about consequences?

[@ricboy8296]

GS hasn't done anything to fix the problem. It's good that the NBA stepped in.

[@Gabe-bz1we]

Exactly. I just wrote that.

[@javarzshinall9396]

Media lying Draymond getting suspended didn't xost them 2016 they were going to lose either way because that game was a blowout that he couldn't stop

[@tigers7834]

Yeah he missed game 5 if I remember correctly. He was there in game 6 and 7

[@DJstainlessGND]

That’s a sick intro

[@jordanmedlin4265]

Best intro man🤣🤣🤣

[@caper087]

I found it funny when shady got in achos way and acho was like “omg I’m not on camera” trying so hard for the camera to see him lol, 🤦‍♂️ this guy 😂

[@ellouisemiller4534]

Need to send a message to others players and future prospective players, also.I dont think it was taken far enough, not at all !!!!!!

[@cbeyond1957]

No, they are not going too far. He has been getting away with his little sneaky antics for a long time, and it has been unchecked. How many guys has he kicked in the private parts and got away with it. He was doing it on purpose, which is clearly shown in videos. Nobody has been inflicting any of those acts on him. It may have happened a couple of times to him, but it was clearly an accident in those cases. Then, too, the way he gets up in those refs face, yelling. Screaming and cussing and also to the guys on the floor is ridiculous. It like he is out there trying to intimidate people and start fights screaming what you gonna do about it and all that kind of stuff. He needs to be suspended.

[@RaylinBanks-tj9zl]

Shady vs Leveon Bell 😂😂😂😂

[@Thebulish]

lol one of the best shows, love the chemistry

[@benvalverde5260]

He acts out when he can't handle the person he's playing against. When his opponent is getting the better of him, he resorts to physical violence. The league & his organization enabled him for years. He needs to be taught a real lesson. He's been giving more than enough chances. He's been given ANOTHER chance by not getting kicked out the league. He's not gonna change, he's at the bottom half of his career, after years of enablement, he's set in his ways. Mark my words, it won't be long after whenever he comes back, he'll be in hot water again, BOOK IT! He no longer belongs in the league. He has no respect for anyone, not even his own team mates.

[@superior1723]

Wow, the best line was "Anything goes down go get your little brother because I know he's coming with bad intentions." LMAO 🤣🤣😂

[@Semperityy]

😂🤣😂 this is actually a great segment. good stuff today

[@tonijones83]

I love the show. You guys have cool outlook on players and the sports. Except Shady and Joy when discussing Dak😂. James you my guy. And it’s not just bc you root for my Cowboys QB either 😂. Everyone really is good keep up the good work.

[@paulcarey6793]

Charles Barkley said it best. Draymond is getting older and his ability is declining. He's upset and acting out. As for indefinite, imagine telling your boss you are taking an indefinite vacation. The word indefinite doesn't relate to me.

[@MOREACCESS]

The intro😭😅 Best show on TV “Speak”🔥

[@terrancesmith8050]

Lmfao Shady wit the tie em up move 😂😂😂

[@websoup]

Charles Barkley said it best on Dan Patrick...the root cause is Draymond's deteriorated skills. He has to resort to beeyatch moves and cheating because his skills can no longer keep up with even average opponents...he needs to retire not keeping to resort to beeyatch moves to make up for his loss of skills

[@jaraunrobinson654]

People forget he Apologized as he stated it was an accident and he never apologises for anything he didn't apologises when it came to LeBron Rudy or sebonis or punched Poole in practice

[@MyRoBeRtBaKeR]

Shady! Pick at him? Nobody is picking at him, we're fed up with him!

[@tigertolliver5199]

I don't know. He really needs any help. I think it's just in his nature. I could be wrong or could be right. Everything is an adorable as usual till you find somebody that really knows his character. I never heard of anyone said he needed any help help me out of here. Am I right or wrong? But well I hope you guys have a prosperous 20, 20 24 season. Keep the show going. Keep the energy up. Draymond I think he has enough money. I don't think the money is the issue time for him now. Move on to bigger and better things.

[@darryuslowe6843]

The opening was hilarious!!!! And i really needed the laugh. Thanks yall✊🏿

[@mikeyoung4130]

That boy Acho out here PREACHING

[@joseplascencia4408]

Every game u can see a deteriorating player that knows he is done but needs to do something to justify his contract

[@becomingnursechyna]

Anytime Shady has props it’s gonna be a great shoes 🤣🤣🤣

[@kevincannon9564]

Ok y'all win best sports show on tv right now

[@properking9019]

That opening is hilarious.

[@robotclark]

One of the better discussions I've heard on Draymond. Nice job.

[@chrisharris7903]

Acho been said Draymond needs to get punished for his antics while everyone was praising his "toughness". Now that you see his true colors everybody switchin up

[@dtcoachdtreacts]

NGL these guys get on my nerves but that intro was golden 😂

[@ezmoney1896]

😂😂nice. This show is #1 on all levels.

[@willlazenby1050]

JR Smith only got 2 games for knocking out Jae Crowder with his elbow under very similar circumstances.

[@9o1myles2]

JR Smith wasn’t coming off a 5 game suspension just 2 weeks prior

[@ComedianMoGreen]

😂😂😂hilarious intro

[@sumterlb]

"Go get yo lil brotha" 😂😂😂

[@random9727]

Draymond needed time off and wouldn't get it no more sick days or vacation days so he pulled the ultimate stunt to attend to a meeting and not missed the opportunity of a lifetime thinking life after basketball

[@leobutlerjr543]

But all tha old heads that played back in the days say " Player's of today are toooo soft." How do you want it?!?

[@EDWARDTHEEAUTHOR]

This is what happens when the media calls you a hall of famer and pay you that much money when he never had to lead a team so he feels like a big dog

[@Quon_speaks_scents]

Shady is hilarious 😂

[@phillipmalvo4337]

I love the creativity

[@apollo1251]

Speak is my favorite show

[@LSturdy]

I always feel like I am Looking at a Fox News Audition ,

[@jasonandrews1770]

Whats therapy supposed to do for a guy that says hes proud of who he is and will never change?

[@monroehatcher3844]

Shady & James DRAYMOND Sparring 🤣

[@jasN86]

lmao what a great segment. Love watching this show!

[@mikejames2756]

Honestly the Steven Adams LEG to the groin was the worst. Natural basketball move? You didn't mean it?

[@hoverpilder1905]

GSW should rescind Draymond Green's current contract. They can re-negotiate a new contract when he's ready to come back

[@Michaeldelarosaa]

Best show on FS1 Wtf they was doing in the beginning got my stomach hurting when acho looked like a linebacker pushing Shady out the way yooooo 😂😂

[@LeroyCrawford-e5m]

The Detroit Pistons got away with this stuff for years

[@MrPhillipsTheChangeAgent]

Dude in pink giving great analysis. On a different level.

[@augie2802]

If Basketball is a team sport then punish his team for his action. Take away draft picks. I bet someone in that organization well make him get his act right.

[@SipWayne]

Fr💯

[@IBdaPrince]

Nowhere near realistic. Every team sport is a team sport. The team doesn't babysit players. The organization is not responsible for his on-court actions UNLESS they specifically tell him to do those things and that has to be proven. The Warriors are being punished enough in losing games, and ultimately, a championship. If he won't correct his behavior, that's on him and his legacy and he'll have to answer to his team for letting them down and not carrying his weight.

[@jcampbell07]

his punishment is not getting paid when suspended

[@augie2802]

@@jcampbell07 lol a few thousand dollars to a guy with millions to his name. Lol yea that'll show him. 🤣

[@Healedmindset]

That’s what what’s next. NBA did Memphis that way if I’m wrong my bad

[@redzbass6254]

Acho needs to simplify his speech.

[@marcusarmijo0824]

James is hilarious 😂😂😂😂 His story about his kids was great!

[@saleemwrightpst]

Fire second child analogy! Having three children myself that man couldn’t have told nothing but 100% truth on that one! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@anthonyclay9694]

Sprewell got 68 games for choking his coach. Draymond got ZERO GAMES for punching out Jordan Poole! Make it make sense!😳

[@anhtannguyen5577]

This show desperately needs Wiley back

[@zerotolerance923]

How you defend him kicking someone

[@donnyluff93]

Acho preach bro preach

[@CR_22]

I like that so many people learned a new word

[@GaryTurbo]

Warriors fans are still going to defend him

[@mawenzi4647]

Not all of us.

[@MoeDrums]

Shady could’ve boxed fr

[@wizzysworld6280]

Great opening 🤣🤣🤣

[@JehovaStan]

draymond doesn't fight; he's strictly a cheap shot artist. Sucker punches, kicks to the groin, and chokes from behind.

[@johndough6206]

Acho pulled out his tap dancing shoes didnt he?

[@rodjones7448]

Amazing intro 😂

[@keronjack]

No they not 2:31

[@Felwinter97]

Yall having too much fun on this show💀🤣

[@timothymcmillan6954]

Acho would make a great pastor

[@markushayes]

No. Suspending him until 2028 might’ve been taking it too far.

[@ericspicer5132]

that opening was so stupid lmao

[@philb.1502]

The thumbnail makes no sense. Did the NBA take it too far with the indefinite suspension? How will we know how long it will be? 😂😂