Did OnlyFans Model Stab Boyfriend in Self-Defense? | Courtney Clenney Case Analysis

[@Thankgot]

The titles of model and fitness influencers are to be used loosely.

[@NickvonZ]

Roger THAT!

[@melimel2990]

For real!!!. Nothing but a bunch of social media skanks.

[@uglybetty8747]

Exactly!

[@mmm5225]

There is no modeling agency paying them.

[@sarahalderman3126]

Sex worker is now synonymous with both it seems…

[@thedudeabides2531]

No doubt in my mind she killed him in cold blood. In the elevator, she was absolutely unhinged while he was the one defending himself.

[@lourenssianturi4373]

agree

[@sashachitownvillegas6850]

yes indeed& freinds of theirs said she was always attacking him.

[@Cinder_311]

Correct

[@RationalGaze216]

It's weird that she only stabbed him once tho, right? She seems like the type who would leave a corpse with hundreds of stab wounds and probably wouldn't stop until the blade broke off or got stuck in a bone.

[@Cinder_311]

@@lauraschachte4162 not me! She was wailing on her. She was obviously not afraid to do that. Esp calling him names. If she was ao scared would she really do that? Give me a break. Just bc he was big doesn't mean she wasn't the aggressor

[@cherylhaskell9830]

Courtney waited 13 minutes after she thrust knife into his chest to contact 911, but spoke to her mother twice during that period of time.

[@suesmith4289]

She is a little devil girrrl.

[@nonicosio]

she is guilty ....

[@Arizona_lilly]

I’d call my family to say. Bye too

[@mysteryof7]

After she called 911, she tried to run the clock out on him by stalling in providing the address when the operator asked for it repeatedly; her bf had to use his last breaths.

[@longydongy1004]

She had to follow instructions

[@bauhnguefyische667]

So he was choking her and she just happened to grab a knife before getting choked out. Who believes that?! Booh shet!

[@lf9341]

Agree.

[@Italia-b5z]

Hollywood style

[@jamaljones7884]

@@Italia-b5z lol so she had the knife then on her

[@milkywaydre2754]

she was sleeping with a knife in her bra yeah 100%she just kill the n1gga bro

[@W0rkknPr0gress]

@@jamaljones7884 premeditated 💯

[@goldenlights1407]

She told the police she “threw” the knife at him.And the knife struck his shoulder.But the medical evidence say’s that’s not possible they said.They said the evidence shows she stabbed him with the knife.

[@intenseday06]

She was probably so out of control that she didn't even know how it happened.

[@lionr1470]

Im not saying that is what happend, but why is it not possible ?

[@qlee7886]

@@lionr1470 unless you are a captain america ,that way u could throw a knife at someone who happens to be 10ft away from u and still get 3 inches deep in the chest.

[@lionr1470]

@@qlee7886 ''The impossible is impossible , whats possible is possible''

[@lionr1470]

@@qlee7886 Exemple for the imposible is the theory of evolution exemple for the possible is the fact of throwing a nkife to make it stick.

[@itzyzaza2008]

I just saw the video of the two of them in an elevator. She was violent and out of control. He was mostly calm. Her behaviors in that elevator as well as the behaviors she demonstrated after his death cause me to believe that she most likely continued attacking him once they got off the elevator, but this time she added a knife.

[@Amanda-el9dx]

I agree, but I saw her hysterically trying to close the elevator before he got in. Was she trying to get away from him? He showed a lot of restraint with her, but could he have known there was a camera? We don’t know what happened before they entered the elevator, but Courtney was definitely the aggressor in the elevator. Those two should have never gotten together. Hopefully, we can find out the truth and justice can be served.

[@itzyzaza2008]

​@@Amanda-el9dxI saw her left hand holding the elevator door open as she was hysterically or angrily banging on the buttons on the screen. I also noticed that she did not seem to have an emotional response when he entered. She continued to hysterically or angrily bang on the screen and then turned her attention to him when he said something to her.

[@Amanda-el9dx]

@@itzyzaza2008 I’ll watch it again! Side note: Courtney is just so unlikable too. In her IG stories, she can barely string a sentence together. She’s very pretty, but I don’t see many redeeming qualities. None of her friends seem to be sticking up for her. That says a lot.

[@realreviews4017]

And we all know why she was let go after the incident by the police. A fkn disgrace. Put her under the jail.

[@Catsss1017]

Yeah self defense my ass. Yes he could have easily knocked her out, if she was so abused she would be terrified to provoke him into beating her. She seemed like she’s done this to him multiple times and don’t care.

[@victoriawilliams2786]

Ya Doc, my first question was "How would someone gain the leverage needed to lethally stab someone else in the chest, while being choked?"

[@pthesmith]

@@cht2162 Was he asleep?

[@raphkitchen]

She could of stabbed him any were else apart from the chest

[@victoriawilliams2786]

@@raphkitchen True. But that still doesn't answer the obvious question. I hope your day/night is going well! ✌😎🤘

[@77greenside49]

The video of the fight in the elevator shows their interaction one another... with her clearly being the aggressor.. but him still deciding to stay in the relationship... just a bad choice all the way around.. no one can say what really happened in the final moments.

[@SoulforSale]

She says she threw the knife

[@mogamatismail5961]

Hey Doc, a bit of correction....she initially said that she threw him with the knife from a distance.....the coroner noted that the wound was from an downwards position, like someone lifting her hand and stab with strength...

[@yasuke9317]

Yep. She told the cops she threw the knife. That's some serious knife work if it stabbed him by its self. All her friends said she was the aggressor in all of their fights.

[@kansaspeach7727]

The Coroner report is "telling!" The fatal wound was not inflicted by a knife "thrown." A "downward" thrust...forceful. So heart broken 💔 she goes to Hawaii 😳 I quit listening to this mumbo jumbo after reading this comment! We now know Ms. entitled is a murderer.

[@billydamnit]

"May have struggled with regulating her intake of substances." As a recovering alcoholic, this is hilarious. I'll be using this one! 😂

[@loose_phlegm3047]

Recovering heroin addict here. The struggle is real. Stay sober friend. Keep your head up

[@kl1736]

Recovering addict here! We do recover ❤️‍🩹

[@scuwopguwop_0715]

Plot Twist: Whenever Dr Grande Says He’s Not Diagnosing Anyone! 😂He’s Secretly Diagnosing Everyone! Top Of The Morning To You Doc!

[@tankthearc9875]

lol

[@davidmiller7837]

yeah he is he thinks we are stupid,i see his racist heart

[@MelancholyArmy]

All im going to say that if the roles were reversed he would be arrested and in prison. I do agree that evidence doesn't favor either side completely. I think it's more likely that she stabbed him and he fought back but we will never know.

[@tankthearc9875]

she should be guilty of manslaughter at least as any male would. take into account her exs statements. she has a violent temper.

[@laneatkinson6441]

I agree. However, it makes sense: the average man has the size and strength to seriously injure or kill the average woman with only his bare hands. The average woman needs a weapon if she is to have a chance against the average man, even if he is completely unarmed.

[@michael567jober]

@@laneatkinson6441 does that mean me as a soft smaller guy, i can stab a big strong man if confronted with a fight the man is not backing down to

[@Deathbybigmac420]

@@michael567jober 🤝

[@michael567jober]

@@Deathbybigmac420 what

[@TheDweller212]

This is kind of false. The police said she didn’t have any bruises on her when they arrived.

[@chuksrichard3598]

Exactly, the police said no bruises were found on her, I don’t know where Dr Grande got his statement on that

[@luvthistufft6285]

*She was more apt to kill somebody with her car, than a knife*. Dr. Grande is the best!!!

[@Ena48145]

"Based on her history, she probably had a better chance of killing someone with her car than with a knife." Dr. Grande always with the one liners 😂

[@augustek5382]

@Jen Agrippa that was in reference to her driving under the influence and being caught 2 times. Luckily she managed not to kill anyone then...

[@cliveedwards2958]

@@augustek5382 exactly...tbh I tune in to hear these witticisms and over here in UK we tend to like gallows humour ..It would be a pretty boring recital of facts without it..and in my opinion, dr Grande delivers with respect and just a little wink

[@dianaprince3176]

It’s good, but it still doesn’t beat the one about Satan dressing up like Kenneth Copeland for Halloween.

[@cphillips123]

@M M Zing!!!✋🏽😆🤚🏽🚘

[@cphillips123]

@@dianaprince3176 Bbaaaahahhahahhahaaaa That one was good!😆👹👿👺😈😆

[@rejaneoliveira5019]

Excellent final thoughts Dr. Grande. It’s really sad to hear about cases like this. The mental health cost of domestic violence is very high not only for those involved but also for future partners and families of victims. That’s a wound that takes a long time to heal. Thank you for the thoughtful analysis and I hope you have a great Sunday!❤️

[@pocoeagle2]

Nice new picture of you, Rejane 👍🇳🇱

[@rejaneoliveira5019]

@@pocoeagle2 Aww, thank you so much Ben!☺️

[@bthomson]

Rejane - Would like to take some of these people and teach them manors and how to live a decent life! Just about everything they do is destructive! No consideration for their families!

[@rejaneoliveira5019]

@@bthomson Exactly, I keep wondering from where these patterns of toxicity come from. I tend to think that apart from the genetic component, inadequate upgrading and sense of entitlement may contribute to such destructive patterns.

[@patricknez7258]

Very well said. Great point about it affecting people in the future too. I feel like the negative effects of domestic violence, like other types of abuse, can reverberate through multiple generations. Sadly

[@m.f.richardson1602]

I still don't understand why people stay in toxic relationships. It's like they feed off of one another. Another reason to stay alone. Always interesting. Thank you. Peace 💕🇺🇲

[@kina18]

Some people are addicted to drama and chaos.

[@bthomson]

MF. - Regulation of substances is the important factor imo. People are social creatures and do not usually thrive without company. Hope you have at least one friend you trust! We are with you!😏

[@mstea3232]

"She's not the Crocodile Dundee of Only Fans" 😆

[@m.f.richardson1602]

@@bthomson You are so nice. Yes, I have one friend. Thank you for being so kind💕🇺🇲 Peace

[@andreasluxbr]

Low self-esteem, lack of support, history of toxic relationships in the family, there are quite a few reasons. People always connect in some way, sometimes this connection is based on negative experiences.

[@user-cs1un6sp1wRennata]

"Two young people who had more money than common sense" I agree with your analysis Dr. Grande! Thank you for your coverage of the case. ♥

[@chinchillamdgamer]

Not very respectful to the families

[@rigby0world1]

@@chinchillamdgamer The families that created these two? I don't believe respect should automatically be dolled out.

[@KayDejaVu]

She had the money. Not him.

[@intenseday06]

@@KayDejaVu, if he was managing her "career in Only Fans", that means he had money too. It doesn't matter if he was getting money off her if that was the agreement they had.

[@johnny10grasp3]

@@rigby0world1 I guess you knew the man personally and have never made a bad decision. If we could all only be as perfect as you.

[@pup9892]

I worked 9 years for the state prison system and I have worked 6 months at the county jail. The most common charges have these things associated, from most common to least common. 1. Drug related 2. Alcohol related 3. Domestic violence. Usually it's a combination of two of these or all of them. I would bet it's also true for this case. If we could fix these problems in society, jails and prisons would mostly disappear. Lives would not be lost, or wasted doing time in prison.

[@awkwardautistic]

Good luck with that.

[@onyx2576]

@Jen Agrippa 💯

[@springfauna1465]

I work at a transitional, in-patient housing facility with women who are coming off alcohol and drugs. The women we help have a lot of state assistance and great quality care. But even with all that, we have to deal with their poor upbringing, mental health issues, and addiction that sometimes takes them right back out! It literally DOES take a village to combat part of the problem!!!

[@pup9892]

@@springfauna1465 At times I feel some people are unfixable. When a person feels like they are not broke or don't want to be fixed, what can we do? I have had conversation with a man that has cycled through my jail more than. 20 times in the past 40 years. He is homeless, an alcoholic, and a drug addict. He has told me he has chose his lifestyle, and doesn't want it any other way. He says he shouldn't be in jail because he has never hurt anyone. He is just living the life style he chooses. And he is correct. He has never been charged with a violent crime. The only answer I have for him, is that you know drugs are illegal. This man will never accept help because he feels like he doesn't need it. I have come to the conclusion, that people in these groups are a permanent social class. As a society we have to learn to manage the situation. It's a balance between what is best for them, and what is best for society. It's so complex, that's why I feel we haven't found an answer. Also, it's imbalanced. They are a class that normally contributes nothing back into society, and takes a large amount of the assets, such as policing, jail space, county funded homeless shelters and drug rehab. The best society can hope for is to give them the minimum amount of services to survive. They will not fill a job that's open, or pay taxes. They will not attend jury duty, or volunteer. Maybe that's why fixing the entire problem is complex. Only one side holds all the chips in the game. If you have nothing, you have nothing to lose.

[@springfauna1465]

@@pup9892 Oh I totally agree!!!! I see women all the time who are in this program only so they can suck off the system, and they bounce from program to program throughout the city getting free medical, free counseling, free coaching, free housing, a car to works program, free continued education, it's unbelievable!! AND they're protected by HIPPA which ties our hands behind our backs in ways that give them way too much power!! But... there's always one or two who turn their lives around and graduate the program. They get their kids back, and they go on to live successful lives!!! And that's what gives me hope!! I'm 16 years free of alcohol, and if I can at least plant one seed as an example, then I've done my job!! All the best to you!! 🙂🙏

[@Dtown1996]

If it was the other way around the guy would’ve been indicted immediately

[@garyacker7388]

Not a doubt in my mind, she killed him

[@Hadria7777]

Absolutely

[@garyacker7388]

@@Hadria7777 your much better looking than she is judging from your photo.

[@IzzyBizzyBooBoo]

You mean if SHE was pimping HIM out in Miami? Maybe.

[@straumboney1903]

@@IzzyBizzyBooBoo I thought this kind of thing empowered women?

[@salliekim2727]

She was caught online having a drink in a hotel bar with her dad after being released. What a strange thing to do. I’d be mourning the loss of my loved one at home. And staying out of the public eye. Sucks for the guys family.

[@lonecapricorn9518]

I saw that clip, the lady that posted was shaming her. I know I would have maybe left the house to go to the food store or something quick, but not a damn drink

[@millions2nette]

Good point! She killed him and she has permanently maimed others prior to him.

[@rashadwest4788]

I know a chick that would do this…. Lol some are just crazy and self centered

[@Splexsychiick]

After being released maybe she decided to stay at a hotel to avoid media. Or her dad was staying there. It's not strange at all if that's the case...people drink when stressed. She killed her boyfriend that's pretty traumatic. Staying alone with your thought after something like that I image could be extremely unpleasant so some people find comfort being out in public. While others cope and favor solitude.

[@samlsd9711]

So she got away with murder.... nice... Black men need to stay away , the hell away from these kind of women.

[@CFarnwide]

“More money than common sense”… explains a lot of things these days.

[@NickvonZ]

I do not understand this "OnlyFans" stuff at all. It seems some people get RICH being "OnlyFans models". It's odd to me, because I have read that there are photos of nude women on the Internet for FREE! I can't say for sure, but that's what I've read. "Influencer", "Psychic Medium" and "Life Coach". The 3 "job titles" that make me want to hurl. Each worth what I remove from my cats' litter pan each day.

[@pookispalaceoflove6518]

There are also millions upon millions of free videos of adults doing rudies for free ……,. Allegedly 😌😂

[@pinkyteel525]

Job titles=cheap, not useful, not employable, but got ass,

[@kina18]

Probably desperate men and women thinking if they support these models on only fans, they might get a date with one.

[@bthomson]

Love the "asking for a friend" insinuation!

[@pookispalaceoflove6518]

@@bthomson Nobody insinuated anything

[@georgered6867]

Courtney Cleeny openly said she only dated rich black men.....however even in relationship she got this only fans as her source of income. Well...what do you expect of a relationship with a narcissist woman and a man who wanted white woman and openly hating black women.

[@Bri-nc8yp]

Seriously… don’t feel sorry for him. You can like a certain group of people but to put down your own race to uplift another is not within your best interests.

[@georgered6867]

@@Bri-nc8yp i feel you been following this case and Ive seen alot women spoke bad about him putting down his people but praising the woman who killed him.

[@IzzyBizzyBooBoo]

@@georgered6867 He wanted a white woman because he thought they were easier to control and pimp out than black women. I guess that worked out for him...for a while.

[@Bri-nc8yp]

@@georgered6867 Yes! I followed this case. Black women have drawn their support away from him and have made it known that we will not protest or back his family up due to his rants on Twitter about white women being better than black women. Even comparing white women’s areola’s to that of black women’s and saying white women’s look better. Now, as a black woman who prefers white men and dates almost exclusively white men (American & European) because that’s what I am most comfortable with and find attractive. Since Kindergarten my first real friends were white boys so that’s what I know & what I feel comfortable with. However, I could NEVER put down black men to uplift white men especially not in public spaces. I could never say white 🍆 look better than black 🍆 . Thats basically what this dude said. That’s insane. I can’t put down my own race even if I like something different. That’s insane to me. This case would have gotten traction had black women fought for him but we are sitting this one out.

[@bthomson]

This comment helps shed some important light on this case. When a participant in a DV incident is not able to defend themselves (being deceased!), anything we know about the situation adds to the understanding.

[@thereal4113]

I'm so glad you are covering this issue Dr. Grande. When I learned about the murder and news coverage, I was extremely upset about how the matter was handled. I support the victim's family and hope justice is served. 🌵🌵🌵🌵 '

[@IzzyBizzyBooBoo]

He was a pimp. He also happened to be an ethnic minority...doesn't make him a victim. He could have avoided the whole thing by not being a pimp.

[@FranSanTeeth90]

This was a guy who acted out randomly and aggressively to BW that he didnt even know. Do you doubt that he probably was aggressive to his partner?

[@thereal4113]

@@FranSanTeeth90 I am not in a position to judge him, but there are documented instances on her agression and DUI's (2?) I may also be a little biased after viewing a video of her and her dad socializing in the bar of her building the next day. If you accidentally killed someone who you were intimately involved with, you don't go to "Happy Hour" the next day. This girl is a brat who thinks the rules don't apply to her.

[@FranSanTeeth90]

@@thereal4113 If he was stalking me and smacking me around?! Oh my sweet summer child...I'm throwing a party and my stepdad (Daddy RIP) is working the grill! 💥

[@FranSanTeeth90]

@@thereal4113 Next, you can't include her shittiness and discount HIS. He was absolutely unnecessarily confrontational. His tweets were the cyber equivalent of yelling fire in a crowded theatre. With that in mind I wouldnt be surprised if he (at best) took the piss out of her and (at worst) mentally and emotionally abused her up to and including home invasion.

[@leylamoody3177]

I can't wait until you do an update on this case as it progresses! Excellent analysis, Dr. Grande! ❤️

[@murse_life]

She's unfortunately a product of our sex-fueled culture. She's young, "good" looking (by societies beauty standards) and emotionally immature. She's someone that's used to getting what she wants because of how she looks not her personality or how she thinks.... and unfortunately Christian lost his life because of his inability to see the many red flags she possesses.

[@LordBaltimore009]

Even one domestic violence incident tells me that a relationship should end. I've never heard of a relationship even improving after that. I have heard of many ending up with one or both partners dead. End it!

[@heathennation9448]

I agree

[@taurahelms3068]

You revealed some very disturbing things about both people that I didn't know until now. This was a very toxic couple that seemed low on the therapy that they each required and needed to go their separate ways a long time ago.

[@lostandfound5145]

prostitutes are not typically known for their healthy relationship patterns

[@BBWahoo]

Bitchez be crazy

[@abigailjohnson568]

She probably chocked herself and bruised herself to make her case. Some women have bruised their own bodies by punching themselves. Anyhow, she will get away with it. It’s usually that way. Her looks wins people’s sympathy and they will believe her story. There are many good looking, wonderful, and highly educated African ladies out there. He chose misery and death. He thought he had gold based on her appearance, but what he got was a tombstone. Soon, she will move onto the next man.

[@dianevanderlinden3480]

these guys don't seem to learn. Too bad it's too late for him.

[@thecraplordsell4575]

Lol race doesn’t even matter since their are a handful of crazy black chicks in America. Either way, it’s all garbage.

[@archiefitzpatrick6966]

Some of those women you call Africans, according to GOD in his word the bible, are Israelites, did you know that the blacks that were brought over here on cargo slave ships and scattered around the world are the real biblical Israelites or Jews according to the bible and historical documents and archeology

[@Maziedivision]

My ex-roomate would brutally smack herself in the face during arguments with her boyfriend and then when a neighbor would call the cops, she’d lie and said her boyfriend did it. It’s called hysteria. I would not be surprised if this sick bitch feigned the same thing.

[@ld3418]

Like Amber Heard case, my narcissist mother used to tell stories of my father's occasional violence in arguments away from home. I continually witnessed my mother's physical attacks on my father who was never violent towards her or anyone, while my mother physically attacked me, maids, and others who "angered" her. Female violence on men who would never strike women covered up by female lies seems must be addressed. Thanx.

[@yolipurpleflower9895]

My mother was always the violent aggressor towards my father and the rest of us kids in the family. Eventually, my father snapped. I lost both parents to a murder suicide.😪 Though this happened a long time ago my life has not been the same.

[@winterwilliams3618]

@@yolipurpleflower9895 So sorry for what happened to your and your family. Lots of love and good vibes your way.

[@ladyd900]

@@yolipurpleflower9895 so sorry this happened to you. I hope you find joy and peace in spite of this experience

[@yolipurpleflower9895]

@@cht2162, thank you so much! 🌹

[@millsykooksy4863]

So true!!

[@sarahhartley2067]

“Surely she was not the crocodile Dundee of Onlyfans” is my favourite quote in this one. Particularly as I’m Australian! 😂 Another great video Dr G. Thanks ☺️

[@anthonyanderson1875]

Staying tuned for the update based on new evidence and timelines

[@RadChick]

I remember hearing that Christian was stabbed in the shoulder. So I was surprised to hear later that he had died. I wonder if there was just the slightest delay in the sense of urgency in getting him to the hospital by EMS as the location of the stab wound likely didn't seem lethal when obviously in hindsight she had hit a major artery or vein and he bled out inside.

[@mc_zittrer8793]

Man, suddenly the bachelor life doesn't seem nearly as harsh when there's women like her on the market.

[@norbacsam]

She now faces murder 2nd deg charges... and being extradited from HI to FL ... kind of strange circumstances and inconsistencies around her allegations... Please Dr G An update is in order

[@MDWJS]

if he was the aggressor that elevator was not an indication of that- she didn't look afraid of him.

[@gravydog1]

Knife wounds are every bit as dangerous as bullet wounds. Particularly in the trunk/abdomen. Of course she is guilty and will get off. Any guy that’s dated a semi-hot girl with anger issues knows this.

[@lostandfound5145]

The biggest lesson for young men here is to not take abuse from a woman lightly. You think “she can’t really hurt me” with her shrill yells and pushes and slaps that don’t particularly hurt, so many a man is more inclined to write it off and let it go. Eventually, most abuse victims break down and fight back. And once it starts to escalate, it invariably results in someone being maimed, dead and/or in jail. Abuse is never ok, no matter how tough you think you are, no matter how much you think you can tolerate, everyone should have a low threshold of tolerance for abusive behavior.

[@mystikast]

@@lostandfound5145 the problem is no one believes men when they come forward. I myself tried to get a restraining order after I broke up with my ex-fiance and she simply said "she was madly in love and it made her act irrationally after the break up", the judge asked her if she "was fine now", she replied yes, and he didn't grant my restraining order. She called the police ON ME, after I found her fucking another man in my bed, and lived in my apartment (at no expense to her) until I could hire an attorney to kick her out.

[@lostandfound5145]

@@mystikast I’m so sorry that happened to you. That’s so unbelievably horrible… but I do believe it completely. The system is so broken. I completely understand where you’re coming from and totally believe you. I know it won’t really make you feel any better, but it’s not just happening to men. Women are also not believed and the courts don’t do a damn thing for women, either. I’m pretty sure the courts only ever help people that are complete dirtbags or liars. Well, it definitely feels that way. But it’s not men, only. It is women too. Sadly. Women aren’t believed and the cops don’t help and even when there is evidence people regularly say things like “what was she doing to make him so angry?” That is why “believe all women” became a thing. Which isn’t the answer. Women also don’t come forward because they know it will be an ugly mess if they do. There has to be a solution to the problem apart from Jesus coming back, but I definitely don’t know what it is. The best thing I can say that I’ve learned is to get everything on video. That’s the best defense anyone has.

[@mystikast]

@@lostandfound5145 Thank you for the kind words!

[@lostandfound5145]

@@mystikast you know, the truth is that miserable, evil woman that abused you will never find contentment or happiness. Because that comes through virtue and caring about others and responsibility and hard work. She’ll never understand any of that. She won’t know what it means to love someone and so she’ll never appreciate being loved. It’s tragic. But self inflicted. She’ll never understand the joy of gaining wisdom through self reflection and self improvement. She won’t grow and mature and be a better person. You learned a lot from that experience. You grew wiser, better, stronger. But she learned nothing. She only nails her own coffin. I hope you’re able to one day find compassion for her misery. She’ll never have anything but fleeting happiness which is as shallow as she is. Nothing deep, meaningful or real. And this life is just a mirror reflection, a mirage. The real life is after, with Jesus, when what we have learned and how we have lived is going to measure out worth as a soul. None of us measure up- but the person who doesn’t realize that, the person that doesn’t feel remorse, work for improvement, the person that doesn’t care about the suffering they cause- they aren’t exactly making the cut. I feel sorry for them. At a distance. I hope you find real love from a virtuous woman. And keep your eyes on Jesus, because that’s the real key. That is where you’ll find everything. Anyway, I want to say F that b*tch. Haha. But also, I don’t need to, because she’s doing it to herself.

[@vivianwilson7183]

The bruises on her were old bruises. Not only did she wait for a period of time to call 911, but when they were asking her questions, she wouldn't answer. For example: house, apartment, etc. Go back and listen to the recorded messages, check out her friends' and ex-boyfriends comments, read the notes kept & watch the tapes. Everyone can't be wrong. What if the shoe was on the other foot. What would your analysis be then? Inquiring minds want to know.

[@delsijoy705]

I heard that he initiated the break up and she wasn't happy about that. She has a witnessed history of physical aggression, she's an alcoholic, which contributes to poor impulse control, and her story is damn fishy. She needs to do some time in prison. She will reap proper bad karma, one day.

[@millsykooksy4863]

Judging from her past history she’s going to end up murdering someone else

[@LalithoTheRedBorderCollie]

She dumped him and he didn’t want to leave lol. The apartment was in her name only.

[@katehack1677]

Thank goodness. Sometimes Dr Grande's soothing voice is just what the the doctor ordered. Love the variety of topics covered as well.

[@gordontarpley]

I was one of your very early subscribers and out of all of your videos, "Crocodile Dundee of OnlyFans" is the funniest thing you've said. Literally still laughing.

[@bthomson]

Among many!

[@lewismatthews4247]

Courtney did not call the police, it was the condo staff. She did not want the police called.

[@amasvodka]

Everyone should check out Bodybuilding and Bullshit’s video on this incident. Courtney has a history in the fitness scene.

[@PecanBaby...]

Courtney was the aggressor in this relationship and I hope that she goes to prison for a very long time. If you find yourself in a toxic relationship please don't hesitate to leave it when it is safe to do so. Trust me you will never change that other person so don't even try to, if somebody truly loves you they would never dream of hurting you in such a physical way. I myself left a da relationship whilst pregnant and I never regretted my decision not once, please don't stay in a toxic environment believing you will change them, trust me it's never going to happen. No matter whether you are a male or female never stay in a relationship were you are getting physically and emotionally hurt, you can be alone and you will survive without them, if I can do it so can you. We only have this one life to live please make sure it counts and be happy you owe it to yourself.

[@DeRussellMasina]

Some of the best news 📰 is from this KZbin channel. Objective breakdowns, sticking to the facts when reporting

[@gerry2345]

I like this vid. Good insight and great analysis.

[@keyfiender799]

He was dying, she called her mom. Case closed.

[@claudinejames7731]

Yes, avoidance of relationships with violent, substance using, agressive people, romantic relationships or ANY kind of relationship. Stay safe everyone. 🌳🌳🌿🍐🌿🌳🐝

[@mustangnawt1]

Through the years I have learned that it is not important to talk things out immediately when things get heated. Retreating is smart. U can also absolutely go to sleep with an issue. Imo whoever came up with that was either an idiot or a person who can’t leave well enough alone. Calm and reflection. And if someone shows u who they are, believe them. Get outta there permanently pronto

[@bthomson]

This seems to me to describe Johnny Depp's efforts (or so he says and some others back him).

[@lillidaisyASMR]

To be fair I can’t sleep if I’m upset because my anxiety will have me laying there all night with no sleep at all.

[@astridjaye6224]

I can hardly sleep due to anxiety and severe insomnia though I see your point only one of us would be sleeping

[@jayg5391]

Just don’t go to sleep near them or you’ll be stabbed.

[@annresnik6059]

I assume that the police couldn't believe she was guilty because she was small, pretty and he was much bigger than she, but I believe she was guilty. She was not stabbed: he was. Self-defense doesn't fly when she is not bruised and has no broken bones, etc. Sounds like a girl who knew she was pretty and used that knowledge to control men who were more agreeable. Sad he couldn't have left her.

[@annresnik6059]

Possible he attacked her. Still, she is alive

[@EM-tx3ly]

She's healthy 5ft 9 strong and good KO with Shaun Rowden a Mr Olympia who happened to receive a broken jaw by her Christian had no chance plus Courtney was very abusive to him even explicitly dropping N word in a heated argument Just because she's smoking hot doesn't absolve her from murder

[@kvacka]

Something like this could happen to Johnny Depp too. But then he wouldn't be able to tell the truth like Christian can't tell his side of the story. I'm just surprised that only one stab killed him while she was being choked? Hmmm, "Amber", I don't think so.

[@springfauna1465]

I thought about that too!! Would be interesting to see this case if it goes to trial. Also kind of reminds me of Jodi Arias except that she was totally brutal!!! What is with these young women??

[@shrapnel77]

@@springfauna1465 In Courtney's case, she gets constant validation on OnlyFans. Most chicks on there are not too stable mentally. Men swoon over her when she was a druggie, alcoholic, toxic person who you would not want to be around. They only see the physical and she actually is not that attractive, just pounds of foundation and surgery. She most likely grew up in a household where her mom could have hit her father or she used physical violence as a way to solve disputes.

[@Chuck_EL]

@@shrapnel77 it's scary to me ,because women like Courtney are still out there on only fans on any other social media grooming lonely and desperate men to "Save" them

[@aboutagirlnamedjessie]

Yes, thank you and I completely agree! Love the message with this episode! Amazing work, Dr. Grande! ♡♡

[@trevorthetherapist4200]

Guess who else was born in Austin Texas and got a couple of DUI's before attempting to destroy her relationship partner. Amber Heard. If you meet a woman and she tells you she hails from Austin, Texas...RUN!

[@belvyjordan9953]

🤣🤣🤣You are funny

[@LDiamondz]

Dr. Grande, can you do a video on the mass shooting in Buffalo, NY that happened at a grocery store over the weekend? The shooter was only 18 and had a hatred toward many groups of people, according to his manifesto and social media. He seems to be really disturbed. RIP to all of his victims. All innocents. A sad case. ☹ ❤

[@btetschner]

Some of these cases really highlight how dysfunctional modern relationships can be. Those two seemed very immature. This case reminds me of the one where the girl pushed that older woman in the city and she died after hitting the ground, it is just so unlikely people would die like that with a single stab. Thank you for the video.

[@keysaysassah]

Not really modern relationships. I volunteered at a hospice in college and there were so many people who opened up and told me about how their spouses (usually male spouses) beat and humiliated them and they didn't know it wasn't normal

[@btetschner]

@@keysaysassah It's a really modern relationship, websites like that didn't even exist in the past. Even though the stories might not be true, I have never heard of a girl breaking a guy's jaw in an act of unexplained aggression.

[@justsayin895]

She had stabbed him before. And also stabbed another boyfriend

[@samlsd9711]

This is very sad, what a senseless loss of life....

[@recardo5862]

I'm so thankful for this content.Please keep up the good work doctor it's much appreciated😊

[@bthomson]

Yes! Dr. Grande seems always to be even handed! His analysis of like situations is clear and reasonable.

[@bthomson]

What is difference between analyzing and diagnosing? I think the situation is analyzed but the person( or people) are diagnosed. Therefore I do not think Dr. Grande does diagnose any individual . 🤔

[@bthomson]

(This comment was for the comment below - it somehow got switched?)

[@randoman750]

Hi Doc, love the videos - Congrats on 1 Million, it's nice to see that this kind of content is still appreciated by many people out here on the internet! Could you please do a Dr Drew analysis? I'm not entirely sure what to make of him.

[@emmyrose1802]

I’d watch this! Of course I watch every doctor grande video! So…

[@Mama_Bear524]

I’d watch

[@mopes2713]

My common sense tells me to stay away from romantic relationships with any women who is involved with sex work or pornography. I guess some people’s common sense differ from mine. How can anything good come from dating a person like that? It just feels like an accident waiting to happen.

[@greenlenny3926]

Your common sense is right on

[@kbcguevo69]

Yess how is this not common sense

[@cottontails9003]

Good morning Dr Grande. Its sad that ,it was a toxic relationship. Fame , money and substance abuse, don't mix, it would be better if they got out of that relationship. I personally think she could be charged with manslaughter. Thank you Dr Grande. Great analysis and informative topic. Edit Also, my apologies. Thank you once again Dr Grande.

[@LDiamondz]

Hello lovely one! ❤ Great comment. I agree, she could be found guilty of manslaughter. Murder would be too hard to prove, probably. How are you doing today? And how is baby Noah? 🥰 I hope he let you sleep tonight! ❤❤❤🍀🍀🍀🌷🌷🌷⚘⚘⚘🌹🌹🌹😎

[@Rogueviewer1]

Dr. Grande, it’s important to note that the boyfriend made disparaging comments about the women of his own race while pedestalizing his OnlyFans girlfriend. For this reason, there has been and will be no social justice action taken on his behalf. He was a scourge to his community, so it is what it is.

[@Aboma2012]

I know it is horrible and that became his demise. But that doesn’t mean he is Murderd her.

[@bthomson]

Need some clarification here. Whom do you think is at fault? I would be interested in your opinion here.

[@FranSanTeeth90]

@@Aboma2012 Do you think a man who randomly cyber attacks a whole race of ANY women was a healthy and pleasant Goodfellow?

[@Rogueviewer1]

I *think* they were shitty people who got together and she outshitted him. But I *know* black people - especially the women - don’t give a shit about him or the case outcome. If anything, we feel sorry for the family because he was such an embarrassment that the community doesn’t care to avenge.

[@FranSanTeeth90]

@@Rogueviewer1 MisogyNOIR and Misogyny are different sides of the same rotten penny

[@RealChrysq]

The video of her attacking him in the elevator is heart breaking.

[@Melinamiu007]

She was on the phone with her mother for 10 min before calling the police. 10 crucial minutes.

[@australien9455]

That right there, proves her innocence among other things.

[@australien9455]

It was also her apartment, not his. He only had some of his stuff there. He'd been staying there but not necessarily welcome to live there fully. She had also taken a restraining order out against him prior to the incident. Whether it was still valid or not, I don't know but I do know those things should never expire, or at least no where near as quickly as they do. Some women don't know they can expire and find out the hard way.

[@beejme9time]

Interesting you did not mention the multiple prior knife incidents, i.e. her stabbing him in the leg, her slashing his face, etc. Seems like pertinent info

[@jakedalton6236]

Great video👌

[@robbchastain3036]

For sure big social-media popularity can adversely influence a relationship and perhaps it messed with this relationship as it did the one involving the van-life couple. And definitely, Dr. Grande, the exit ramp is the best option when there is more tension or jealousy or whatever than anything else. And whatever happened to simply dating and courting? All this living together before people are ready to live together is too often a really bad scene with a harsh outcome.

[@troy3456789]

We all say we would leave. It's not as easy when you are emotionally wrapped up in that relationship.

[@robbchastain3036]

@@troy3456789 I agree as altho' I am now 62 I recall the feelings and confusion of being/not being in a relationship in my mid-twenties, a time when one is still young yet nearly a decade out of high school with all those expectations of success of life in the fast lane and the '80s were just that way. Yet, I am thankful that it was just dating and that while my heart was broken, I did walk away graciously, yielding to her desire to be with another guy even as she said I could keep calling her. And I certainly thank the Lord for the strength and will to do that, not that I called it the exit ramp or anything fancy like Dr. Grande.

[@troy3456789]

@@robbchastain3036 I read a terrific book called "Divorce Busters" by Michele Weiner-Davis when my marriage was in shambles. It's goal is to reunite couples. Even if the other has moved out; the relationship can be saved [if the relationship isn't toxic, it may be savable]. She tells the reader [the one who is interested in rescuing the relationship] to avoid calling the other at all costs. She tells the reader to make a list of the top ten things you would be doing if you were not all consumed and worried about the relationship; then do them. To be honest; it was very powerful and she moved back in after I stopped calling her. We did have two kids in school afterall, so I was the single dad there for awhile. I realized at some point that she was the toxic one and I decided I was better off without her, and she didn't want anything to do with our kids. I think the reason I wanted her back was simply because she rejected me, and that was a powerful move against my ego. She went on to marry 4 more times [and cheated on all of them]. I remarried once to my wife now for over 18 years and we are faithful to one another.

[@xXHireneXx]

You think people can afford to live entirely on their own? Cohabiting is the future of relationships now along with a slew of other consequences should it not work out. I blame the economy.

[@lostandfound5145]

@@xXHireneXx I was going to say the same thing, the economy has really messed things up. Also, people didn’t used to “court” the way nostalgic people seem to believe. There was never a time that was better in regards to relationships! Before, you were married super young and often without any say by the woman. Then women were trapped, no matter how toxic the relationship was. Divorce rates are high because now that women can work and support themselves and leave, they simply don’t tolerate the bs they were forced to, before. Marriages were not happier and more fulfilling before. At least not for the trapped spouses. Once you live together you may as well get married, though. It is difficult to separate once you take that step, so might as well date until you’re ready to get married and have kids. Anyway, the older methods did not work and no way are people going back to that mess. People need to evolve and seek more therapy. That’s the real solution

[@deborahwinter5018]

You are so right! Run don’t walk ! Exit fast! Been there, done that Sad to admit it!

[@DottieMinerva]

My professor in my addictions counseling class put on a Dr. Grande video about Group Counseling and I could barely hide my excitement.

[@MuhammadO19]

@4:16 I believe Shawn Rhoden you referred to was Mr. Olympia of 2018, a bodybuilder

[@SadieMage]

I’ve almost stabbed my ex while being strangled. I pulled it from under my seat of my car and literally almost stabbed him. They block you in. You can’t run. Edit: luckily his roommate ran outside and pulled him off JUST in time bc I had also laid my elbow into the car horn for help too. So lucky bc he was gonna for sure kill me , as he had just kidnapped me from my place-broke my door down and tackled me in my doorway. Crazy. So glad it’s long in the past but yes , I think this story adds up.

[@angeleyes3386]

It adds up for me too. People that have experienced DV or a situation like this understands this as a possibility. If I had a knife my ex would be dead rn luckily for him and me, he just went to jail.

[@DMONEY2000]

Cool story bro

[@SadieMage]

@@DMONEY2000 the purpose wasn’t to share a story, but to offer an example of the state of mind people can slip into when in a state of panic. Personal stories are the most absorbable way to share information. Beyond that, the entire point is to offer an alternative possibility. Sure, when we’re looking at statistics, personal stories have no bearing on the current statistics. It doesn’t negate the findings or conclusion just bc you had a different experience. (Ie just bc you eat ice cream in winter time, or don’t eat it in summer, it doesn’t negate that the fact is that I’ve cream sales tend to increase during summer. It’s irrelevant) But in a court of law, it’s different. You’re factoring in if there is most likely no other possible explanation for the evidence provided, in the way it’s provided . And in that case, individual stories absolutely do have bearing. If this case of state of California vs blah blah had a person where it looked similar but it was discovered that the defendant was not guilty in that case , and perhaps evidence later came out that even proved that, then that does change the trajectory of the current case. It is reasonable doubt.

[@nineteenfortyeight]

Except that's not Clenneys story. She said she threw the knife at him from 10 feet away.

[@SadieMage]

@@nineteenfortyeight wellll that’s sketchy. 😳 people do get worried abt stuff like false imprisonment but that is bizarre. I feel like if you’re in a state of shock after something like I suggested you’d probably just keep replaying the incident and you’d be pretty honest abt what occurred. So the knife throwing comment before changing her story is really weird. Good point.

[@domicadom8865]

She didn't call for help for 30 min while this dude was dying...

[@cottontails9003]

A very good morning Dr Grande. What a toxic relationship, personally I agree with your analysis on this one. It would would appear these two people, should have left the relationship. Fame, money and substance abuse , don't mix. I personally believe she is allegedly guilty of manslaughter. Thank you Dr Grande. Great topic and informative topic.

[@zenawarrior7442]

Hi Momma...hope you had a great day with the family & Noah😉💚💛🍩🍭🥤🌷Agree with you. So many of these toxic relationships, based on ego or need vs love. Personally I'm tired too of the racial claims-sometimes it's just a bad situation period, zero to do with race.

[@cottontails9003]

@@zenawarrior7442 Thank you we did 😜❤💙

[@zenawarrior7442]

@@cottontails9003 😉🥰💟Welcome. Sleep well tonight....🦉😴

[@bthomson]

Zena and CT - You guys are important to me. Your comments (and Rejane's) always are🎯

[@zenawarrior7442]

@@bthomson Thanks friend. Appreciate that alot. Have a great day😊💚🍦🌹🪴

[@veronicamoody3981]

Courtney Clenney was clearly aggressive and unstable and appeared to be under the influence of drugs in the videos. They said she had been doing coke, and that substance can make people very aggressive and alter their decision making, especially when mixed with other substances, like alcohol. That is not a good mix or situation for someone who already may have mental health issues and for someone who feels entitled.

[@Arch497]

Are we calling sex workers models now? Well then, I'm not skint or a deadbeat, I'm financially disabled.

[@Arch497]

I'm an Influencer for the hobo lifestyle choice

[@Arch497]

I'm a recycling enthusiast?

[@Arch497]

PHSE? Post-housing stressed entrepreneur

[@monikathomas4985]

‘He worked as her Onlyfans assistant’.... nice way to put it Dr. Grande 😅 And your face as you say it... 💀😂

[@blitztim6416]

I find it hard to understand how people think it’s normal to have fights in a relationship. Tragic consequences like Brian and Gabby.

[@60sbabydoll777]

I watched the interrogation video. She is a murderer. She seems to have BPD and NPD

[@djmurps1587]

Hey Dr. Grande, would you make a video on the recent and tragic shooting that occurred in Buffalo. There’s a lot of politically motivated discussion including misinformation; I’d just like to know the facts and psychological commentary

[@erica6488]

I live in Buffalo sad day

[@cokedupgirlscout]

@@erica6488 me too. I still can’t believe it finally happened here. I figured every city in the US would probably have to deal with a mass shooting at some point, but I guess I never really thought about how heavy it feels once it happens at home.

[@zenawarrior7442]

Agreed. Accusations aren't facts. The shooter already was in court on a wknd. Odd. Sad though.

[@vik.1903]

No matter what the motivations were, terrible tragedy nonetheless. Terrible. Thoughts and prayers to you all!

[@cokedupgirlscout]

@@zenawarrior7442 that was just his arraignment. Arraignments happen 365 days a year, and I have to imagine they prioritize high-profile cases like this. The FBI is involved. They’re not going to waste any time.

[@telinhajp]

Hi Dr. Grande! Hope you're doing great! ❤️

[@raqueldevesa4302]

New evidence just came out not looking good for her.

[@wolfesound]

May this kind soul rest in peace. Men need a lot more attention for also being victims of such heinous abuse. Whoever you are, please get away from people like this criminal. See them accurately. They are not charming, beautiful or anything you wanna have anything to do with.

[@johns3927]

Welp, video evidence has come out of her being the violent aggressor in the relationship.

[@yvettedurbangirlsa]

Crocodile Dundee 🤣🤣🤣 You go Dr Grande 👏

[@ZA-co9vj]

I seriously doubt it was self defense. There is a TMZ video of her beating the crap out of him in an elevator and he did not hit her back.

[@ricardodavila9000]

Dr Grande is awesome!

[@RobVespa]

Discrimination and hypocrisy are bad. Pulling out the race card (or the abuse card or the...) when it isn't warranted is a disservice to those experiencing genuine issues.

[@bocabec6744]

I am old. 74. I saw a story about a girl who is in jail for a murder she was involved in 21 years ago. I saw a picture of her and it was like a jolt of electricity shot through me. I tracked her down and sent her a letter. We have been writing for nearly two years now and I am in love with her. She is 44 and has never asked me for money. I think she may have a slight chance to be paroled in 2023. If she does get out she wants to help out her parents. I have asked her if we could meet for coffee. I said I won't take much of her time. I have made it clear to her that if drugs, alcohol, or drama pop up in our relationship I will head on down the road. She has genius level I-Q but messed up bad while she was drunk and drugged. What a wasted life. I do not want to set myself up for pain. I have been hurt by the laws of attraction in my past, but being the old Marine that I am, I keep plugging away and getting a letter the old fashion way is really nice. I am not afraid of her and I believe her. I'm too old to put up with BS.

[@australien9455]

I think that's a great story and even better, it's a true one. 😊

[@Andersonsdanish]

Just seems like people are wired to seek fame, fortune and outer-beauty. When these things aren't fulfilling, we are lost.

[@monstrousanimal5578]

Great analysis

[@jakemiller270]

Were the religious beliefs she had I shall not drive sober? In all seriousness without evidence on either side it is hard to bring charges. Granted text messages will tell alot and may be the biggest evidence cause the facts are she stabbed him and was bruised. Did he have to fight her cause of the knife or did he attack her 2 days before and she was ready with a knife the next time? The cell phone messages will come back to haunt her or help her imo.

[@noluthandomaleka8652]

"the cocodile dundee of only fans" 😂😂😂

[@garyacker7388]

Thank you Dr for another insightful glimpse at more narcissistic women destroying other people's lives.

[@TaraSmallss]

I don’t know anything about this case, and I have no opinion either way, but if she’s telling the truth it’s sad that people don’t believe her because of substance abuse. I’m a recovering addict, and I was sexually assaulted a few years back. I called the police immediately, and had to go to the hospital to get a kit done on me. I was honest about my substance abuse, and from that point on police didn’t take me seriously. Detectives ended up dropping it, because they didn’t believe the word of an addict. It makes me so sad how we’re treated like garbage by some police, even when we’re the ones victimized. Either way I hope the truth comes out in this case 🖤

[@MrGtk010]

If rolls were reversed he would of definitely have been in prison

[@majlordag1889]

True

[@charliemiller1934]

It is not believable because the man is a victim of domestic violence. The cost is so sad and I hope at least the victims family get some resolve to move on from their loss.

[@DeyvsonMoutinhoCaliman]

Since she stabbed him only once, I think there is good grounds for the self-defense argument.

[@Aboma2012]

Nah. It is like saying since person shot once at head that is good chance for self defense. More like murder.

[@bthomson]

Yeah but once was enough!😓💀

[@cutienerdgirl]

@@Aboma2012 It's not the same thing at all. Normally, when someone stabs someone multiple times, they aren't allowed to claim self-defense. One stab can be seen as self-defense if there are claims of the person who was stabbed being repeatedly violent.

[@Ytremz]

Outrageously stupid take.

[@Aboma2012]

@@cutienerdgirl yeah no sorry that may work for her because she is in Florida and white and rich but not for anyone. She could have planned that and she has violence tendencies. If this was other way around we wouldn’t have this argument

[@hippygirlfriend4937]

I’ve been waiting for this!!!!! Thank you dr grande

[@BigZebraCom]

Just a reminder, I'm not diagnosing anybody in this video; only speculating what could be happening in an OnlyFans™ Boyfriend Shish Kabob like this.

[@LDiamondz]

lol. 🤣 Shish Kabob! That is so funny, and oddly enough, I think that's the name of my new next door neighbor! 😁

[@BigZebraCom]

@@LDiamondz If your neighbor is named 'Shsish Kabob' I think the next bbq is going to be interesting.

[@LDiamondz]

You know what? I think you're on to something! Cuz every time he buys a new grill, one of the other neighbors steal it! 🤣

[@sondrayevette1451]

I believe she murdered him and has anger management and control issues!!! Yes I think it is because he was African that he is being seen as the perpetrator. She didn't have to kill him; why not end the relationship, it was obvious they weren't compatible? When the police are called in a lot of domestic violence situations in Los Angeles, the first time they are given a warning that if they are called back again someone goes to jail; as an apartment manager I've seen it happen and that certainly curbed the violence and they ended the relationship and moved out soon after that. Fortunately it has only happened 3 times in thirteen years. It sounds like they could have benefitted from couple's counseling but you have to be ready to do the work and be painfully honest to bring about change, unfortunately a lot of people are more interested in being right rather than working things out!