Did Instagram Model Defend Herself with Impossible Knife Throw? | Courtney Clenney Case Analysis

[@MrAnthonyIII]

The fact that Courtney had already stabbed Christian on previous occasions proves that this wasn't a one-time, spur of the moment instance of self-defense like she's claiming. She was committing ongoing abuse, and she should have been in jail long before it got to this point. The idea that "since women are smaller and weaker, they're no threat to men" is not only incorrect and ignorant, but also deadly

[@raquellofstedt9713]

Yes!

[@1stcal11-b2]

I love Doc, I do. But he's simping for Courtney right now. He wants her to get temp insanity and walk in six months, not knowing she doesn't know or care about anyone but herself. Me personally. Onlyfans is destroying women. It's teaching women that they will have power for about five years of their lives. Then they have to live the rest of their lives knowing that there's nudes out there on the internet that they think onlyfans has protected, but it's everywhere. My brother is a superintendent and he fired two teachers for having onlyfans accounts, and I absolutely support my brother on that. It's very important in this case, that we do not let this woman get away with this cry, specifically because she is a woman on onlyfans. If she gets away with this, we are proving that every cute white girl, and if you've ever seen her without makeup, she's far from cute. She doesn't even look like the same person, however if she gets away with this. We're proving that all it takes is a smile and being a white girl, to get away with a crime.

[@Somero5115]

It frustrates me cause…. Weren’t we calling out women using their power to call down the police on black men sometimes to deadly consequences like 5 years ago? Is that not a repeating theme in North American history?!?

[@killerqueen873]

That would traditionally be the case but being armed with a weapon changes as u don't need to be particularly strong to leave a mark with a knife or any sharp object

[@LDiamondz]

She stabbed him a few times before the last, fatal time. I don't think she planned the murder, she went too far in a fit of rage and stabbed him. I agree, it wasn't self defense. As far as women being weaker and smaller, so not a threat to a man goes, it depends on the people and situation. In this case, a knife was the great equalizer. I hope she spends the rest of her life in jail.

[@pri.sci.lla.]

No she stabbed him on purpose and it wasn’t the first time. He should’ve left after the first time. Stabbing someone is so extreme.

[@krissteel4074]

Being stabbed is extremely unpleasant and a great indicator that being around someone likely to do it again might be a bad idea. I honestly don't know why he stuck around. Chances are there was some kind of deeply ingrained stupidity, but there comes a point (pun intended) that even the dumbest people will make themselves scarce after the first stabbing.

[@ToquzOghuzKhaganatekhan]

At least she is frontstabbing at least

[@andrewpease3688]

I can only see 2 good reasons to stay

[@krissteel4074]

@@andrewpease3688 Free money and not having to work? 🤡 Yeah, I can see the appeal but there's also not too many jobs you have to wear a stab vest to work.

[@pri.sci.lla.]

@@krissteel4074 no… s3x and money

[@pattil7947]

“Beauty fades, dumb is forever “ quoting Judge Judy…🤨she needs to go to prison.

[@brigidspencer5123]

Without the bleach and make-up she was a plain Jane.

[@LDiamondz]

She was no beauty in the prison jumpsuit picture. No make up, bad skin, no bleached hair. Some people are pure genius with the make up brush.

[@tamitatangoto5134]

@@brigidspencer5123 No; I don't think she's plain. Her whole life has changed, she's in prison. The reality has sunken in by now. Her looks are reflecting the devastation that is now her life. I imagine she is given food that is much like food in a hospital... GMO and highly processed. Most women that look as good as she did, eat a very high-quality whole food diet. In other words fruits and veggies fresh and quality organic meats. I'M NOT FEELING SORRY FOR HER. I'VE gotten many compliments on my looks,☺️ but under her circumstances I'd be looking just as RAGGEDY. You would likely also not be fairing very well under the same circumstances. JUST SAYIN😳

[@tamitatangoto5134]

@@LDiamondz Her life is hell now. No wonder she's looking rough.🥴 The Bible says "you reap what you sow."

[@brigidspencer5123]

@@tamitatangoto5134 I really don't care what you think. Without all the war paint she is just a Plain Jane. As for it finally sinking in, I highly doubt it. She probably sees herself as a victim. I used to be a Probation Officer & all my clients were "victims" and hard done by. When they are finally given their freedom they screwed up again because they were "victims" and I would have another "reunion" with them. This shallow, self-absorbed & abusive young woman belongs in Prison.

[@tracyking5945]

Dr. Grande is like the North Star. We’ve come to rely on him to make light in a dark sky. You always know how to give us a reason to smile. Thank you Dr. Grande! ✌🏻❤️🤗

[@wildebt]

Wow, this is a prime example of how Instagram profiles are manufactured facades that do not represent reality. It's obvious to us here, but it is insidious how it affects children and adolescents..

[@DiscernmentNow]

Absolutely!

[@melodyann44]

Exactly 💯 true.

[@mrjjman2010]

Shit, it affects a lot of immature adults too. Lol not that you wouldn’t agree. It’s just a little nutty to me after so many years of knowing many of these people are very unhappy. Or at the very least could be completely lying.

[@richardcoughlin8931]

I was going to say that she wasn’t the sharpest tool in the shed….

[@janecoe9407]

courtney was very pretty lady but a psycho....

[@jmcieslak0]

If you're in a relationship with someone and they stab you, I would recommend not moving in with that person

[@furlycee]

Weird it’s only second degree murder, I can’t think of anyone who stabs someone in the chest who wasn’t planning to kill. She deserves life in prison, this is one of the worst cases of domestic violence by a woman that I’ve ever seen.

[@mariosargiropoulos1715]

Second degree murder does mean intent to kill. It just doesn’t mean premeditated. Second degree is her going crazy in that moment and deciding to kill him. First degree is her planning to kill him ahead of time. I believe you’re thinking of manslaughter, which is when you unintentionally kill someone.

[@RedMissileGaming]

because it wasn't premeditated. wasn't planned.

[@Arizona_lilly]

One of the worst ? You seen? They have woman say worst .

[@jocelynastheart2732]

try the jodi arias case!

[@mariepratt5844]

Agree 💯💯💯

[@CeeCee-j9w]

“Restrict their use of clothing” Dr. Grande’s shade is epic😂😂😂

[@bluebestfriend]

He's shady throughout this whole video. Put a bad tastes in my mouth.

[@rikkifitnessmama]

This guy Christian made a social media post a few years ago that he’s doesn’t date black women because they are “ghetto and loud”. I find the circumstances of his death Ironic.

[@mario-qi3yw]

Thank you for your analysis in this case. I feel so bad for the young man’s parents.

[@Hoffmanpack]

They were part of the problem. Enabeling behavior leads to bad consequences

[@AsWeSpeak154]

@@HoffmanpackWhat? Christian was a grown man.

[@tonyhill8300]

Do you really not understand what he was saying ?

[@Flamsterette]

@@Hoffmanpack What? *ENABLING

[@daveatkins3568]

I’ve been in relationships like this and they’re both as guilty. He was leeching off her money and he made her look edgy

[@rogerm3708]

While she was on the phone with her mom, Christian lay dying as she tried to determine how to handle the situation

[@buttersstotch6752]

Mom help how do i still blame him for this, its not my fault, he messed up my sandwich order and i get jealous when i'm drunk, high and hungry.

[@dearbrave4183]

​​​@@buttersstotch6752 possible. But from the recorded conversation she was blaming him for cheating. There's more reason to believe that was the reason he was stabbd. And if these physical violent incidents were recurrent then it's possible so was cheating

[@siouxd799]

That’s so sad

[@bobdole870]

@@dearbrave4183 when someone cheats on you, you should leave. Not cope with it by stabbing them occasionally. He should have left long before he got killed. I wouldn’t believe anything she says because she’s already been proven to lie. Sad from all angles.

[@HeavenEarthFloral9]

Her mom didn't tell her to hang up and call 911. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

[@Jeanne90275]

He was addicted not just to her, but to the lifestyle. Sad because it wasn't worth dying for. Thanks, Dr. Grande.

[@lizzylivin27]

Well said, I was just saying he was living off her

[@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777]

he was a real cuck of a boy

[@mariaseidi4023]

@@lizzylivin27 Exacly ,he didnt live her because She had Money ...(problably he was the" Help" for the ONLY fans content ,chaufer, ... Besides that everybody knows that for many black men Having a white partner that others men want its seen as a big 🏆 to they low self estime.

[@freemanontheland507]

He was addicted & trauma bonded, unfortunately...

[@alyonavam9040]

Exactly, I binged on her vids from other creators and none offered this take, which was obvious to me. He has nowhere to move to (being apparently a successful crypto trader….) he mentioned in one of his notes to her that he believed she was “his luck to help him with his goals”. He is not to blame for her actions but he definitely played a willing participant in what ended up being his demise. He put her addition to her and material benefits over his safety. And I believe however toxic she was , she sensed it and resented him for it . Toxic, toxic relationship but sadly not at all uncommon

[@beachgirl468]

This girl is so guilty! She's physically, mentally and verbally abusive to her partners and it finally caught up to her. The only thing a knife like the one she had would do when thrown "10 ft. across the room " at anyone is BOUNCE off of them- not sink 3 inches into one's chest/clavicle area and and penetrate the subclavian artery.... that was her big mistake by claiming she "flung" the knife at him🙄🤦‍♀ Love your videos Dr. Grande- thank you!❤

[@abdisamamedia]

@@Kevin-Schmevin you are sick. Go back to drinking the Kool

[@beachgirl468]

@@Kevin-Schmevin don't fool yourself, you couldn't be more wrong. They reconciled and were already back together-she had already allowed him to move back into the apt. the day that she killed him. (She even tells the detectives that during her interview/interrogation). She was extremely jealous, emotionally unstable and she is an addict- which contributed, imo, to her abuse of Christian....and on that horrible day, she took her anger and abuse too far. She not only killed this young man but she ruined her life too.

[@latyshal.2286]

@@Kevin-Schmevin You're wrong. Very wrong. There is evidence to prove that she was very abusive to her boyfriend. I hope she's convicted and sentenced to at least 20 years in prison.

[@eikoqdupree101]

She felt no guilt. She believed her looks can get her out of any of her bad behavior. Lots of time the law let's them.

[@pri.sci.lla.]

@@Kevin-Schmevin if you’re subscribed to her OF and sad she can’t make content for you anymore just say that

[@SureJungle23247]

I've been throwing knifes since I was 12 about 30 years. It takes a lot of timing if your going to tumble the knife during flight, you consider distance, number of spins etc. If your going to thow the knife like a dart you still have to release the knife from your hand taking into account rotation. These no way you can just peg a knife at someone and get any accuracy, so na she didn't throw it.

[@January.]

*knives *if you're going to *There's no way

[@SureJungle23247]

@@January. autocorrect sux

[@buttersstotch6752]

The knife is a serrated Global, they're built with an off center handle, and a curved blade. They're close to impossible to throw effectively, the handle's weight will imbalance the knife when it hits. Given the difference in height, he was literally on his knees when she stabbed him.

[@SureJungle23247]

@@buttersstotch6752 Yeah, you need the blade and handle to balance in the centre at least roughly, the more off balance the more useless the knife is to throw.

[@Flamsterette]

*YOU'RE *KNIVES

[@askew9976]

Thank you for highlighting the abuse and control that women have over men. She is no innocent fragile doll. She killed him. She has her pick of anyone on her Instagram that she could use. She’s a nobody trying to be somebody. She wanted him gone. Disgusting.

[@It-is-me...Melsie]

SOME women, yes.

[@kimberlys8422]

the 911 call was heartbreaking; this was a case of domestic abuse; men are abused by their female significant others and don't hit back often times. She was a psycho with a substance abuse problem..

[@lawv804]

It happens all the time, and it happens to good men who refuse to strike a woman under any circumstance. They don't feel they can reach out to the police for help either, because cops don't take female on male DV seriously.

[@KIIINGDAVID1]

shaddup .... no it's not .. It was straight up murder .. She stabbed her other bf and has a history of violence.. Tired if females lying to other females ... She murdered him ... If she was a different color we wouldn't be having this conversation 😉

[@buttersstotch6752]

It's so sad, he probably felt like he could help her, and that if he left, she'd self-destruct. Abusers just love screaming "Look what you made me do to you" at their victims. Like it's his fault for not getting far, far away from this delusional little spoiled brat addict. Society is SO eager to blame him that its struggling to literally flip the facts upside down starting with "both sides" ism. Why didn't he leave her? Because sometimes, people change for the better when someone is kind to them, even at their worst. Bro could have slapped her like a mosquito. What is love? Baby don't hurt me, no more.

[@kimberlys8422]

@@lawv804 That elevator footage made me mad. I'm glad she's in prison because I don't believe for a second she flung a knife.

[@BariumCobaltNitrog3n]

I think the abusive man-killer will be popular in her new home if she can control her sense of entitlement and anger issues. She will have no problem with substance abuse in a Florida prison.

[@FrankBenlin]

Stab me once shame on you. Stab me twice shame on me. Stab me three times, well damn, you just killed me.

[@windymaerain]

lmao

[@sylviarobinson5952]

🔪🔪🔪

[@christianbrix4311]

6:38 is probably a pretty accurate depiction of what most instagram models look like before all the make-up, fake tan, and filters

[@chop2093]

Yep. Guarantee that 99% of them aren’t anything special without makeup filters ,etc. not sure why these weak men put up with these crazy women just because they somewhat look good

[@lesliewheeler7071]

I just wish ppl would stop falling for the fakery. Falling for these egotistical narcissistic psychopaths. Letting them get away with it all because of perceived attractiveness. Shallow people attracted to shallow people. This all makes me sick.

[@dammar117]

Most men fall in love with the eyeliner. The sad thing is that this girl is naturally pretty, and many others are, but they don't believe in their natural beauty. They need Maybelline to seduce.

[@missyann7588]

@@dammar117 I agree. She was very pretty before she started injecting her face and whatever else she was doing….and not even 25 years old. And it’s SO OBVIOUS when they have work done. I’ve seen other girls in their 20s do things to their face and IMO, all it does is instantly make them look 15-20 years older.

[@hollyfabiani]

I thought everyone new that?

[@yogalayne]

Their lives were drama, drama, drama. Only fans and crypto currency careers‽ No doubt their relationship was tumultuous; their lives were completely chaotic. These two lived in their own La La Lands and were emotionally immature. Sometimes when an individual is somewhat clever and manipulative, they think think everyone else is stupid. These two thought they had the upper hand on one another and everyone else. Sadly, all these factors catalyzed disaster and destroyed multiple lives.

[@ToquzOghuzKhaganatekhan]

Stay away from delusional people

[@bluecollarlit]

I feel sorry for the other tenants in the Florida condo. Imagine that chaos entering your living space.

[@klynn014]

Especially paying that much

[@nonprogrediestregredi1711]

Absolutely. Talk about being neighbors from hell. They seemed to be as low class, so to speak, as they come.

[@colico14]

Well, it is Florida.

[@nonprogrediestregredi1711]

@colico14 Excellent point. As Homer Simpson so eloquently stated, "oh, not Florida, that's America's wang!".

[@Bamawagoner]

@@colico14Miami is its own state. If you don’t believe me, just ask them.

[@kadzo6614]

"Euphemism for being unemployed" 😂😂. Dr Grande is lethal. 💕

[@karennash2085]

I just discovered this channel and I’m hooked. I love a great intellect combined with a wicked dry sense of humor. :)

[@MacMilly707]

The way he said it too. 😭🤦

[@patb2582]

Pretty ignorant comment to make considering there are crypto millionaires. A few years ago being a KZbinr was a euphemism for being unemployed as well.

[@TeresaRodriguez-bx7is]

@@patb2582 I’ll pa

[@yayger825]

Grande gonna roast and toast them.

[@asdfasdfasdf]

My goal is to live life in a way such that I will never end up on this channel 🙃

[@ursulatroxler7428]

Dr Grande please give us your thoughts on self hate in Black Men in America . This young black man hated his blackness and that is why he latched on to Ms Clenny

[@TourettesMajestic]

So far I’m waiting to see actual evidence that the DV went “both ways”. So far the only things against Christian are that he yelled back a few times, and one person thinks Christian charged at her once? Sometimes things aren’t what they appear… I’m sure there are witnesses who thought “oh yes I’ll testify for the poor abused woman who accidentally killed her violent boyfriend” who may be shocked knowing the full details… But who knows ? Maybe he really was the aggressor. I’m sure the truth will come out at trial

[@onyiturner5345]

Exactly!!! I was thinking the same thing! From what I have been seeing, I assumed the bruises found on her (like on her leg) were from her throwing/kicking stuff around the apartment or at most self-defense.

[@crownjewel832]

Sadly it’s way to easy for the racial aspect to also skew people’s perception of who the aggressor was expected to be.

[@tamitatangoto5134]

@@crownjewel832 Yeah the white girl was CRAZY 🤪 anybody could see that. I haven't even hung on every single thing said about this case and I can see that she was spoiled, and definitely let her position online go to her head thinking that she was some kind of a celebrity or something! The fact that she had stabbed him a couple of other times without him dying definitely Empowered her to do it again. The only good thing that has come from Christian,.. the young man dying, is that he will be Resurrected. Acts 24:15,; John 5: 28,29.

[@dammar117]

I watched this case on another true crime channel, hosted by a person who does extensive research on the cases, and Christian was presented as a domestic abuse victim. The analysis included a few words on the rarer situation of male victims. Dr G., who's supposed to be a psychologist, didn't even touch on that! Also, that channel noted how the case would have dismissed as self-defense had it not been because his family insisted on an investigation, in a clear case of racial bias, another thing that wasn't touched on in this video. I think that Dr Grande has lost his original purpose.

[@davidharris4923]

I was thinking the same thing!

[@suziehart6581]

Christian Obumseli had never been arrested for DV. Courtney has. I wouldn't say the violence went two ways It was indeed toxic and they did fight and argue a lot but from what I have seen it was always Courtney who was the aggressor towards violence.

[@jareya]

💯

[@jamesparlane9289]

The starting point for the Police is to arrest the male and this will happen as a matter of course unless the evidence is overwhelming that he did not advance on the woman. Then as a last resort they MAY, but not often, arrest the female.

[@dearbrave4183]

I have more reasons to believe he was just as toxic after reading his resurfaced tweets where he bullied black women. I wouldn't be surprised he was the verbally abusive and her the one to respond with physical abuse

[@lawrenceamevor339]

Exactly! The violence in no way went two ways. All the evidence of abuse pointed at Courtney as being the one who meted it out.

[@jamesparlane9289]

@@dearbrave4183 You are trying to raise the "he asked for it" defense. Any contribution by him never included a weapon.

[@TheScapegoat420]

I think the stab in the leg would have had me trying to walk away. So sad. I'm happy I learned my lesson. Gotta be picky these days.

[@joanmikeska8484]

This is funny. I mean Dr. Grande funny! Ha

[@shahidabdoullakhanzorovr1564]

Gotta be sharp, and on point.

[@AutummJoy]

It’s a shocking difference of her pictures before jail and while in custody! Wow. Nothing makes me think they are the same people!

[@tamitatangoto5134]

Yes it's very sad what horrible food and rotten surroundings in prison will do to your looks.

[@amywade4035]

no makeup or filters in the court pic duh

[@chewiescustompuzzles]

@@tamitatangoto5134 I worked in the dept of corrections for 24 years, the food was actually good. We had a nutritionist visit the facility 4 times a year.

[@erindooley2141]

That is how makeup works🙄

[@reneeburbine7]

No more cocaine so she’s putting on that weight

[@jenniferthompson6280]

all of their friends said that she was indeed the abuser, that he would only hold her to keep from being hit..they all say he was such a good guy, he started recording her bc he was afraid she would one day kill her.

[@lumedeon8471]

Why not just leave? He was no vulnerable wife with 5 kids. I’m sure he could’ve gone home to his parents.

[@dearbrave4183]

​@@lumedeon8471 or got a job. It was too convenient to stay.

[@Hoffmanpack]

@@lumedeon8471 money and a woman... that's why he selfishly chose to stay. Money he sold himself to her for her money. She killed him probably over a sammich.

[@deedk]

Do you not think he could suffer from "battered wife syndrome"? It isn't just women who get emotionally entangled. Stop the victim blaming.

[@tamitatangoto5134]

Three blessings, what do you mean by "she would one day kill her?" He was concerned she would kill herself?

[@jendine1663]

I think her anger was due to him getting her sandwich order wrong on this occasion. It's too bad he did not realize he would be better off without her. This is how I would imagine a relationship between a violent narcissist and a co-dependent to be like.

[@Andrew-qb8eh]

It's not about the wrong sandwich order, it's all about the way how she was angry on him, because he switched off his phone while he went to buy some food, so she could not track his location, she was jealous of him, had a suspicion, that he was cheating, Courtney was controlling Christian in all ways ever possible, i think maybe he also tried to check on her phone sometimes, but i am not so sure. Him didn't need to return to her, an only need is to go away, she was fed up with him more than he thought.

[@ahnraemenkhera7451]

@Jen Dine. Precisely the power dynamics & governing dynamics between these two individuals, from the outset. Narc vs. Target/Victim. Victim believes Narc is capable of “love.” Neither has any idea of “danger” vs. “romance.” 🌱💐

[@jendine1663]

@Billy Mumphry haha! No subway sandwich could be bad enough to make me want to plunge a knife into a man’s chest. I agree’! It would have been more delicious than jail food!

[@jendine1663]

@@Andrew-qb8eh you are right! I forgot about her tracking him! I don’t think he was cheating. Maybe he turned it off to make her jealous during periods when she ignored him because he wanted her attention? What a toxic dynamic! Hopefully she can do life in prison. She’s pretty on the outside only and a monster within. She’s actually not looking too good these days either. She almost got away with murder pretending to be a pretty, delicate victim. I’m glad Christian’s family was able to bring the truth to light.

[@ryanfraser167]

She said he got her sandwich order perfectly right, argument was about him having his location on.

[@nonprogrediestregredi1711]

The sense of entitlement and arrogance by her seems to be off the charts. If these are the instances of abuse that we are aware of, imagine the instances that were not reported and remain unknown to the public. In the back of his mind, he knew the danger he was putting himself in and stated as much. I cannot imagine lowering my self-worth enough to put myself in harm's way as he did. Regardless, I certainly hope she gets the maximum sentence.

[@Kimberly63]

And BOOM! There it is! My favorite YT channel, then off to bed. Thank you Dr. Grande!

[@noelle1225]

Appreciate your analysis, Dr Grande, along with your snark, which is easily missed unless you pay close attention.

[@dammar117]

His snark used to amusing when he began dabbling in it, but now, that's all he's about. The expert psychologist from earlier times is gone. I watched this case on another true crime channel, hosted by a person who does extensive research on the cases. Christian was presented as a rare case of male domestic abuse victim. Also, that channel noted how the case would have dismissed as self-defense had it not been because his family insisted on an investigation, in a clear case of racial bias. These were two major and interesting points to analyze, but nowadays, Dr Grande is more concerned with cracking jokes and inserting snark.

[@noelle1225]

@@dammar117 I also watch several true crime channels from a wide range of personalities. I’ve found that if I’m not satisfied with their knowledge and insight, I just move along. Maybe you should too.

[@dammar117]

@@noelle1225 Don't shut me up.

[@lauralaforge558]

@@noelle1225 don't be a hypocrite. No one is forcing you to respond to comments on a KZbin vid. You could always take your own advice and simply move along from comments you don't agree with. See how that works?

[@lauralaforge558]

I would say the snark is nearly impossible to miss.

[@catwhisperer2736]

This case is so sad and so crazy and chaotic.

[@cmack7281]

She actually succeeded in manipulating the police and had it not been for Christian's family and the public outcry, she would've never been charged.

[@AnnieAbundance]

The irony of the victim stating he found bw soo unattractive, loud and violent on his twitter account but ultimately he met his end at the hands of a ww 🤷🏿‍♀️

[@pasteljoelle126]

Exactly. Stayed with a woman even though she did everything he was stereotyping black women for. It’s super ironic and just goes to show the “attitude” isn’t what he had a problem with.

[@TheePrettyGirlSwag]

On top of that his family wanted black women to be the social justice warriors for this cause. So proud that black women stayed silent & let the “preferences” handle it.

[@LisePlansandJournals]

Well you know in the black man’s eyes ww can do no wrong. He went back after being 🔪’d once. Oh well.

[@Cleric_al]

OMG the wounded wall smackers always looking to land some "ironic" comment on this topic 🙄. As if they are any better but they're not - statistically not individually by the way 😂

[@ohdear2275]

​@@LisePlansandJournalsStabbed twice before. Once in his leg, once in his face. The third stabbing killed him.

[@switchb5913]

I'm so glad you recognized and pointed out Christian had low self esteem. No one with a sense of self worth would go back to the verbal physical abuse.

[@jacksgl777]

Sad story. Whenever, “whenever” you begin physically fighting with your spouse or partner, the relationship is over. When you are physically fighting you have lost respect for one another and therefore have no relationship. Leave, and move on to someone you respect. Especially if weapons are involved

[@cottontails9003]

What an entitled, enabled and spoilt woman. Christian certainly didn't use his critical thinking skills. This woman seems like she lives in another reality. They both had a toxic relationship. I believe she did allegedly killed him. Thank you Dr Grande. Brilliant analysis, tragic outcome and informative topic

[@January.]

*I believe she did allegedly kill him.

[@mythoughtsandme5413]

Often people in toxic relationships don't realize they are in a toxic relationship

[@zenawarrior7442]

Hi dear. Heading to bed, just saying hi. I agree with your comments, all good ones. Sending a hug...✨️🌷💙🤍🌉🌚♥️♥️♥️♥️

[@zenawarrior7442]

@@January. No need to correct her, we know what she meant.

[@January.]

@@zenawarrior7442 Thanks for sharing

[@mariosargiropoulos1715]

I love that there’s a direct correlation between Dr Todd becoming more soft spoken and him becoming more cold blooded in his dead pan disses.

[@johnmellor932]

A little princess that was given too much and never told no.

[@jenniferthompson6280]

she had stabbed him in his leg one day bf this fatal attack..they discussed it in txt messages between the two..she was proven to be very emotionally unstable in recorded phone calls, so so sad, he seemed like such a gentle guy in the recordings , begging her to calm down and get along, and to stop treating him so badly.

[@lumedeon8471]

If he was recording, he may have been unusually gentle to make himself seem like the good guy. He may have been just as awful as her. He did perform adult content with her on OnlyFans.

[@dearbrave4183]

​@@lumedeon8471 Exactly. It was no accident she kld him but he was not innocent either. It's possible her rages though inexcusable were due to cheating.

[@shahidabdoullakhanzorovr1564]

@@lumedeon8471 Assumptions. Prove it, or pipe down.

[@shahidabdoullakhanzorovr1564]

@@dearbrave4183 She actually cheated. As far as we know, he was simply accused.

[@coletteday712]

@@shahidabdoullakhanzorovr1564 Thank you! Even Dr. Grande saying 3x the DV went both ways without providing substantive evidence is disappointing. She KNEW he wouldn't hurt her

[@arleneshanley9889]

Can't wait for your analysis on this. I watched a documentary about this, and she seems really narcissistic.

[@thealexanderbond]

Lol, every single 'influencer' on Instagram is narcissistic, that's kind of a basic job requirement...

[@tonyhill8300]

And him parasitic

[@Throatzillaaa]

Whats the name of the documentary?

[@miasaurusxx]

@@Throatzillaaa following

[@Aurorawolfpack]

Great analysis and case presentation! Dr Grande is great at presenting personality traits and actions which otherwise could be misinterpreted! Thank you!

[@jamess2483]

It’s very sad that he didn’t leave. If he did, he would most likely still be alive

[@nancyk7954]

This time I felt your analysis was accurate and reasonable. I do not think there were many surprises in this relationship. It's my impression Courtney is no more than a spoiled brat, a grandiose narcissist; text book. A product of her upbringing and her physical appearance that allowed her to fully develop into the monster that she is. He loved living in her limelight because he could, it fed his ego to be seen with her, he viewed his magic and power for being able to real her back in. They both wanted to be the prize, which was pure delusion. He was was lazy and superficial. This is a story of two idiots who found each other and thought they were in love. Prison will be a the right place for her. I think it is where she needs to be, though I doubt it will rehabilitate her, it's simply best she's not free to roam around. I'm sure her fans are shocked. The good news is her life is now public. When she gets out, I hope she finds someone who is more her equal. Let's hope there's never a prison baby, she'd be a horrible mother. I would not wish that on any child, but more important, the world does not need another Courtney.

[@ZoeF.O]

When she gets out? From where? Lol

[@dearbrave4183]

I think they were two narcissists who found each other. The only difference is one was into knives as well

[@SLUBUG]

Let me guess....you're white right? You just called him lazy...so the victim was a lazy black man? Wow...

[@michael567jober]

there are many of her out there. problem is simps love those type even when they get abused. i’ve been beat on by women before and after calling police i got laughed at. luckily i got out but some ppl are trapped whether it be financially emotionally etc toxic relationships are never worth it! this case is full proof of what can happen

[@MelancholyArmy]

Can he not just be a domestic violence victim? From his texts to her, he seemed to be very in love with a low self esteem like many victims. His net worth was higher then hers was. It is very telling that if the roles were reversed that no one would ever call her lazy or reduce her to an idiot if she passed.

[@deecee901]

Sad that poor guy. Seemed like a good person.

[@Scrabbledat]

I like the way you just tell us the evidence clearly, I have been seeing lots of news about the parents being arrested and not a single news outlet would share any info or summary on the case so I was super confused.

[@haizeabezala]

Narcisists, male or female, drive their partners nuts and often use this against them to trapped them or excuse themselves from their abusive actions. In this case, this had dramatic consequences and a human lost his life in vain.

[@edithandlez]

How do you not feel bad after stabbing someone you lived with and had fun times with at one point? That’s so sad :(

[@ToquzOghuzKhaganatekhan]

At least she is front stabbing

[@scottricci5063]

Narcissistic sociopathy? Even tho he probably instigated alot of the violence between them, she deserves everything she got coming.

[@b.m.t.h.3961]

She might be a sociopath or narcissist and they tend not to feel sympathy or empathy for others.

[@coachtracyeden]

Narcissists don’t feel empathy for others

[@elizabethwarman9028]

Good evening Dr Grande, as always I learn from your videos. Have a great Sunday.

[@williamnewell3837]

The courtroom photo proves that makeup was her best friend.

[@michaelconnolly7681]

Stabbing is very extreme. It's a pity he didn't realise that the first time it happened and ran out of there.

[@thomasbramwell9592]

This should be a warning to people. If your partner (man or woman) puts a hand on you, even once, you leave! If you dont, in a way your saying its OK to hit me. You leave him or her straight away no matter how much you love them. Its over!

[@tamitatangoto5134]

I agree Thomas.

[@thomasbramwell9592]

@@tamitatangoto5134 Thank you ❤️

[@buttersstotch6752]

Abusive women everywhere: "he must have started it, he was provoking her, this was secretly mutual somehow." All the same rationalization that people just instinctively "know" is garbage when they hear it from abusive men. Poor little rich girl was more hot garbage than a dumpster fire. To her, the worst part of her clumsy narcissism isn't the murder, just that she has to sober up in custody. People knew Amber Heard was a terrible person, but they just HAD to try to make it johnny's fault somehow. The only reason people give courtney's version of their relationship ANY credit is that he's dead and can't refute her effort to pin it all on him. Given their size difference and the angle, he was literally on his knees when she stabbed him. She had ALL the advantages, and treated him like property. The video of her trying to manipulate the cops the apartment called because of her behavior is so obvious. She's CONSTANTLY calling attention to her chest and trying to tell them what to do. It probably usually worked for her.

[@LDiamondz]

There is no excuse to what she did. But, don't most killers make up lame excuses for why they did what they did? Usually ends up sounding like, "He/she made me do it." It's all lies, whether the victim is male or female.

[@annereidy7981]

I don't think he was on his knees when she stabbed him, only point I disagree with you on, but he should have had some sense of how dangerous she was and gotten well away from her.

[@jenerin905]

@@annereidy7981 With this logic, women who die at the hands of their abusive man should have known that they were that dangerous and gotten away. This is blaming the victim and putting the blame firmly where it belongs, with the person who committed the murderer and abuse. This completely overlooks the manipulation and financial control (it was her apartment, he worked as her assistant so she controlled the money) she had over him.

[@annereidy7981]

@@jenerin905 yes, and some do get away! In this case though it seems that she was the bread winner and he was dependent, it's the dependence and lack of opportunity which is vital and the prospect of being pursued if you leave. Men have a tendency to be more confident out in the world. This isn't blaming him, just wishing that he had gotten away.

[@anitat9727]

She's budget Amber Heard

[@zenawarrior7442]

I heard of this recently. She's a cold narcissist. No one deserves to be stabbed, too bad he didn't get away sooner. Always good thinking points. Thanks Dr G😊💜💜

[@January.]

What human being "deserves" to be stabbed.

[@migz_8894]

Looking forward to seeing how the trial unfolds

[@felixdap1047]

listen this lady clearly had an arm like a cannon, the knife throw is 100% believable!!

[@dicksdaughter2274]

I peeped that too!

[@armondtanz]

What about the angle? If you have a knife grpped in your hand and the blade is pointing down then this would be consitant in the downward projection when striking in an over arm motion. Hes a lot taller than her?? So he would of had to be charging her at a weird angle.

[@celeca7]

@@armondtanz Not true. She didn’t stab him on the top of his head. It was in his chest. Anyone can raise a knife and stab at a downward angle the area at their own height.

[@armondtanz]

@@celeca7 Yes, im agreeing with u. The problem is the angle and him standing there. Shes smaller, if thrown the knife should enter at an upward angle, but this depends on his position and posture? Not looking good for her. Sounds like an easy case.

[@celeca7]

@@armondtanz Oh I see what you’re saying. Yes hopefully it will be an easy win for the prosecution

[@amelia_k1082]

There's something AWFUL about how quickly and easily the money comes to these social media influencers. It's like too much money falls into their accounts without actual hard work or intelligence. This girl seemed to become a spoiled brat, in part because she didn't know how to handle a mature person's lifestyle with all that money. Most educated people work years and years to earn six figures and in all those years are the normal day to day struggles. I believe she felt entitled to getting her way whenever she wanted it because she had financial means. IMO, she's rotten.

[@Logan800]

well said

[@cardo1111]

A crypto currency trader often a euphemism for being unemployed. Classic Dr. Grande.

[@donique8256]

🤣😂🤣🤣😂

[@will4688]

Another great analysis Dr. Grande. I have that same shirt. Great taste.

[@8326nazir]

I love that Dr Grande likes this. He’s such a character. lmaooo

[@mattb541]

The violence may have gone both ways, but was his more defensive? The only video and audio we have proves she was categorically the aggressor physically AND psychologically. It's possible because she was the breadwinner she felt she had ownership over him and could treat her property however she deemed fit.

[@peekaboots01]

That's my take also. Her being so successful and him becoming her assistant put him in a subservient position. She didn't respect him because she was providing. In one video clip she complained to police that he didn't pay rent.

[@pri.sci.lla.]

@@peekaboots01 her perspective kinda does make sense though. She emasculated him and he allowed it.

[@lumedeon8471]

If the audio came from him, he could’ve behaved calm and gentle to come across as the nice guy. Sometimes people push buttons then start secretly recording once they’ve successfully riled the person up. Not saying that’s what happened in this case. She sounded unbelievably unhinged in one of the recordings I heard. Again, did he set her off first? Because I don’t understand how he could’ve put up with that crazy behavior.

[@dearbrave4183]

It was mentioned physical abuse went both ways but abuse isn't just physical. He was refusing to pay rent, which implied that they had agreed to share the costs. And there are tweets of him that resurfaced where he constantly bullied black women and said derogatory statements about them, so it's possible he could have been the verbally abusive one in the relationship. And of course, possibility of cheating wouldn't be a surprise since he didn't work and needed to be maintained and the times they had fallen out , he most likely needed a place to stay. Who knows, that could have also been the reason of their multiple fights that got him to leave or thrown out in the first place. While she seems to have been the instigator of physical violence, and was wrong for stabbing him and justice should be served, I can't see him as a victim.

[@mattb541]

@@pri.sci.lla. I agree, you shouldn't tolerate emotional abuse. But that doesn't takeaway the fact it was abuse and she was the abuser

[@barbieblue3336]

The police interview of her is interesting. If you're abused, imagine that being you dead, in the hospital, your abuser not caring much about what he or she just did to you. Mostly just caring about themselves. Drugs, addictions make things worse, but he liked the money most surely, and her attractiveness

[@DottieMinerva]

This was so obviously and rapidly escalating to a dangerous conclusion.

[@WiserInTime]

You'd think that if your partner stabbed you that would be the end of the relationship after the first stab. Wow.

[@sylviarobinson5952]

🔪🔪

[@annereidy7981]

Good analysis Dr Grande! I think you covered all factors with a well balanced view.

[@vict6131]

I don't see when christian was ever abusive towards her besides being her victim

[@stanford2590]

When simping and entitlement bears its fruits

[@hiarhu746]

Just throwing this out here because some people seem to have missed it. The deceased was a successful stock trader and had a net worth of $2-3million. Her net worth at the time of the killing was roughly $2 million. They were not financially interdependent in any way.

[@TheSarah730]

If he was so successful, why did his family need to open a gofundme to bury him? Dr grande said Christian took a cut of courtney’s only fans income. Would a successful stockbroker do something so ridiculous? The man was unemployed and financially dependent on Courtney.

[@ohdear2275]

If he was independently wealthy, I wonder why his family started a GoFundMe to pay for his funeral. I do believe she was providing for them both but he worked for her as her assistant. I also believe she murdered him. I think she is a narcissist and he was her codependent victim, that they were trauma bonded.

[@cindyp1337]

​@@ohdear2275maybe being foreigners, they didn't know how to access his money. Don't know

[@FemmeNatal]

She cut his face, she stabbed him in the leg, she broke a previous boyfriend's jaw. It was inevitable this woman would kill someone. She needs to stay behind bars.

[@jessieyork4508]

💯

[@jenniferthompson6280]

we could all have 2 million followers if we had her filters and knew how to photoshop..don't believe me, look on yt at her in court, looks like an imposter.

[@tamitatangoto5134]

Here you are again three blessings picking on her looks. You'd look worse than that if you were in Court after being in prison, for MONTHS. The FOOD ALONE in that place would turn you into a monster to look at.👾💩

[@godzillamanstreb524]

I hope they detail each & every episode of violence in court….Christian was trauma-bonded….it takes up 7 attempts to leave a domestic violence relationship

[@onlyoldnavy]

Wow she looks different without all the makeup

[@stephj9452]

That's why that social media is fake life.

[@Lirin]

She looks rough for 26. Holy. I hope she never gets let out.

[@videoinformer]

I wonder why she would think her story that she threw the knife helped her case. Throwing the knife obviously hurts her case in every way. Most importantly, it takes away physical threat to her as her justification if he was 10 feet away and unarmed. That alone is enough to convict her. On top of that, unless she was an expert knife thrower, it makes her story unbelievable.

[@abdisamamedia]

Christian was never abusive Dr G. Not a single time did he perpetrated any kind of abusive action against her. Let's be honest and stop pulling and pooling them under one umbrella.

[@DennisNeijmeijer]

His bias towards women, not believing they can be the only abusers in a relationship was evident since Amber heard.

[@Greenmountainferns]

I watched his videos on amber heard, and he was just as critical of her as anyone else. Having said that, this woman is an absolute disgusting psychopath abuser. Have you ever listened to that recording that Christian made with her calling him a “dumb n word” over and over again? What guy would tolerate that? You’re gonna let somebody stand there and say that to you, and just because they’re hot you’re going to take it? That was crazy.

[@Stepatee]

First mistake was letting people call him Toby.

[@justblaze.]

Africans on some other ish

[@DavidPortera]

Tragic story. But I still caught the “ based on what whittle evidence …..” comment. Very Subtle Doc!

[@grantclarke180]

Thank you Dr Grande much appreciated

[@kimberlys.7097]

Your so right and this describes 90% of this generation who have grown up with social media!!!

[@derkeheath5172]

90%??? I'm guessing you don't know many (or any) young people.

[@ParentingIsPlanning]

Great video, Dr. Grande. May I introduce the racial component of a black man from the African continent which was fodder for white supremacy and worship of whiteness despite cruelty and oppression. In the 1970’s series “Roots,”by Alex Haley, “Toby” was the name hoisted upon the enslaved African, Kunta Kinte, who was beaten into submission by his slave master. This woman represented a fantasy of freedom, social ascention, increased self-worth and despite the violence and degradation; he could sleep with a white woman, no matter the cost.

[@4thMonth_April]

“…Just another violent encounter…”. What?!!! Seriously?!

[@rullmourn1142]

We don't claim her here in Austin...No.

[@cindyp1337]

She was becoming increasingly aggressive?!?!? Isn't that what most drug users become, losing everything?!?!?😮😮😮😮😮

[@chinchillamdgamer]

Seriously, it's kind for Dr Grande to even call her an Instagram model. We all know she had an OF account and what kind of "modelling" she did.... So uh... That was her main income yes.

[@A-Michele]

You mentioned multiple incidents of domestic violence on both sides but only mentioned violent incidents by Courtney. Hmm. The prosecutor asked her father if he felt his family would be safe if Courtney was released on bond and illuded to a previous incident with her own family. Were the police called to their home in TX? We'll find out everything in the trial. Personally, I'd rather be "unemployed" than violent.

[@al_from_australia]

hmm sounds like a recent court case where a dog stepped on a bee and a finger was almost severed. Ok then he fell on the knife while making balloon animals.

[@germainewright7348]

"Restrict their use of clothing!!!" OMG...I laughed so hard. 🤣

[@tobyc3435]

Dr. Grande your videos are getting me through a tough time, I alway look forward to your analysis thank you

[@Marconi121]

You're either lying or you're disturbed if you're watching other people's experiences of murder to "get you through a tough time". Who goes through a day of emotional turmoil by watching a video and going "ummm yes the way she stabbed him is really calming". Seek help.

[@janpierzchala2004]

@@Marconi121 Look, to divert attention, to relief brain from tough time depressing thoughts you need powerful real life dramas told in an interesting way. This happens here, and awareness that there people going through rough time out there helps in the "you are not alone" vain.

[@Marconi121]

@@janpierzchala2004 1. This is a brutal murder not a "drama" 2. Really not sure how a black man being stabbed in the heart for doing nothing wrong helps your "at least I'm not alone" idea. Unless you're a murderer who needs reporting.

[@janpierzchala2004]

@@Marconi121 You are coming here to mourn victims, others are tired of mourning and experience also other feelings while watching and listening.

[@janpierzchala2004]

@@Marconi121 Every murder is brutal as far as I am concerned, but you seem to be oblivious to brutality of some murders.

[@missyann7588]

She absolutely controlled him financially. I personally don’t believe he actually had a job. I think she took care of him financially in every way. I mean, the girl was a millionaire. He got a taste of it and didn’t and couldn’t let it go. It doesn’t excuse what she did by NO MEANS. But he doomed himself for staying because he didn’t want to get out and get a job and pay his own bills.

[@allenmontrasio8962]

When there is a power imbalance, wherever it lies, the overly powerful person *will* abuse it.

[@Justablakman]

I don't understand why grande keeps saying it was a give and take in terms of abuse. Doesn't sound like he did anything remotely close let alone equivalent to what she did, but of course we have to protect that woman at all cost even when she's flat out guilty. If the roles were reversed I wonder if you would be so adamant about relaying the idea that it was two sided abuse.

[@keodi1]

Well said I definitely pick up Bias in his analysis. Courtney was very much agressive, so how was this abuse both sided?

[@jimc.goodfellas]

Everyone's an Instagram model now

[@GoldenBoyXCM]

no wonder with all that makeup

[@pri.sci.lla.]

Because anyone can post pictures of themselves online. These people aren’t models.

[@tamitatangoto5134]

Not Me!😳

[@newworldgrover8588]

@@tamitatangoto5134 it’s never too late to start 😂…

[@matthewheeke4377]

I don’t think he was stalking her. They moved to Florida and into the apartment together. He had no place to go when she would kick him out and all his belongings were in that apartment. It’s not stalking when you are just outside until your psycho girlfriend decides to let you back in.

[@latyshal.2286]

"restrict their use of clothing" 😂

[@Heywood.Jablome]

Tyronne and Stacy gone WiLd! 🤪 He didn't stay because of love, he stayed because she's the most attractive mate he could secure. He knows the months and years of cows that await him if he walks away from crazy..

[@rickbrenner6079]

She was financially well off and he didn’t have to worry about finding a “real job” as opposed to a “Crypto Currency Manager”. She was his free meal ticket on top of the fact that (like you said), looks-wise, that was the best he was going to do with women. So it’s clear why he stayed in the relationship and rationalized her violent behavior towards him as “gestures of love.”

[@tamitatangoto5134]

@@rickbrenner6079 IT is not uncommon for children to grow up in households where they are neglected abused and berated,.. Christian could very well have been from such an upbringing. He wanted to love this young woman, despite her volatile arrogant tantrums, and way's about her. She probably made his life seem exciting in comparison to his upbringing. When she was being nice she was probably very nice. But that just never lasted 🥴 I believe that Christians future is still to come. The bible promises a RESURRECTION of the Dead. Isaiah 26: 19,; Acts 24:15

[@anitat9727]

6:38. That's her without all the effects. She's okay but not worth dying for

[@LisePlansandJournals]

He stayed because in a black man’s eyes, being with a ww, no matter if they’re unhinged, is reaching nirvana. His tweets say it all.

[@Heywood.Jablome]

@@LisePlansandJournals yeah but we generally like to send them our fatties. Ain't right swerving outta his lane and snatching up a physically fit retarded ww.

[@mr.beatspt.2969]

She was cheating on him during their relationship but yet she was always monitoring his activities. Smh…Men, we need to follow the advice that society always tells women. When you see the 🚩🚩 get out, run and run fast, it could save your life.

[@btetschner]

I imagine that it would be easy to lean on physical beauty because it is valued so much. It is likely many models overestimate their abilities because they know that they can lean on their beauty. I am surprised that no one intervened in all of this.

[@cottontails9003]

I've seen the police interview with the police. She seems to believe she is the victim. Both had a toxic relationship. Neither used their critical thinking skills. I do believe she didn't mean to kill Christian, but the fact she did she needs to be accountable for her actions. Thank you Dr Grande. Brilliant analysis, tragic outcome and informative topic.

[@BFRandall]

With self-defense, the analysis is different. The question of homicide is established. The legal burden then shifts to the defendant to prove justification for the murder. Self-defense is an affirmative defense. So the question is whether Courtney Clenney will likely be able to prove self defense. She has the burden--not the state. Moreover, the burden where deadly force is used in self-defense is higher than where non deadly force is used. Courtney likely needs to show she could not have retreated herself before employing deadly force against the person who had equal rights to the dwelling. I do't think "stand your ground" applies.

[@Throatzillaaa]

This woman was just getting comfortable stabbing her boyfriend 😮 I worked at a domestic violence shelter for women and kids for a couple years (and I heard many heartbreaking stories from the women) and this story is genuinely shocking to me.