Did the Church Actually Hate Copernicus? | Adam Ruins Everything

Animated Adam unravels the truth behind Nicolaus Copernicus' "troubled" relationship with the Catholic Church. Watch full episodes of Adam Ruins Everything Presents: ReAnimated History on truTV!
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[@krombopulos_michael]

This really misrepresents Galileo pretty much as badly as it thinks everyone else misrepresents Copernucus. The Church's dislike of Galileo had much more to do with him openly insulting them than it had to do with science. And even then, his punishment was just house arrest, not torture or execution or anything people associate with blasphemy.

[@rminkof]

Yes, but Galileo still denied what he considered to be the truth due to being a "good" catholic. The church may not be that bothered by science ( it is a source of power, after all ), but it certainly has other issues.

[@stephenking5852]

House arrest doesn’t sound so bad. You get to be imprisoned in your own home.

[@TheFlames376]

good point

[@misseli1]

Krombopulos Michael That's what I was thinking

[@voiceofreason467]

House arrest, for life, with zero possibility of continuing his experiments. Yeah, it certainly does seem like he wasn't persecuted with that context. And in case you couldn't tell, that's what sarcasm in text looks like.

[@bialymisiek4737]

Y'know, i'm Polish and this is the first time i ever heard that Copernicus was "hated by church", I didn't know people actually believed that.

[@Truenofan86]

oczywiście nawet w propagandowych podręcznikach do historii nie było niczego o nienawiści kopernika przez kościół

[@tonystark8757]

Its because they're mainly from myths that were floated around in Western Europe and the Anglo-sphere among Protestants and Enlightenment Thinkers. The reason you haven't heard about them in Poland is probably due to the distance from Western Europe and the lack of Protestants. Over here in America, its basically a coin flip for whether history teachers share the made up myths or actual history, for comparison.

[@galaxyclass1361]

The Roman Catholic Church has a very bloody history.

[@notofficialpickles507]

Galaxy Class wdym no one even said a word a bout it and you randomly bring it up

[@GThe-su9kl]

It's pretty much what Tony Stark said. The same thing happens / happened in France, but it was more political and less religious (roughly, since Spain was the Defender of the Faith and France was competing with Spain, French people used the same myths as the protestants about the catholic church).

[@angryyogbuscus1578]

Of course, it is also important to remember that Galileo was on good terms with the pope, even after he began publishing his astronomical papers. To paraphase a quote from the pope, "The bible teaches how to go to heaven, not how the heavens go."

[@JDubOnTheLowdown]

Angry Yogbuscus Oof. Got em.

[@cseijifja]

then he made some, questionable claims, and all good will was lost.

[@TerryBradstreet]

Unless you read the Book of Enoch, where it does tell us how the heavens go. Enoch explains how I can look up and see Orion every single night, with his position only turning clockwise in the sky. That should be impossible if we're on a rotating globe that orbits a star which is itself moving through space, because that would mean I would always see new stars from new angles, and almost never see the same Orion more than once, let alone every single night in the exact angle and almost exact same position as the previous night.

[@iminavegetativestatestudio1730]

@@TerryBradstreet the reason it never changes angles is because orions belt is a group of different stars aligned in the shape of orion. The stars are SUPER far away. Like, very far away. So of course you can see it when we orbit. We are not moving fast enough or far enough for it to start escaping our view. Its the same concept as when you are driving on the road and you see the hills on the horizon. Notice how the hills are "following" you and not moving away. That's because they are huge and very far away.

[@TerryBradstreet]

I'm In A Vegetative State Help me If the Earth rotates 360 degrees on a central axis then there would have to be at least one night where Orion isn’t in the night sky because it’s on the other side of the planet. And that’s ignoring how the Earth is supposed to revolve around the Sun, so sometimes Orion would be on the other side of the Sun. Everyday people are using stronger telescopes than were available 50 years ago. Why would they question science if not for finding proof?

[@papal1500]

I thought Copernicus published his book on his deathbed? That's what I was taught in class

[@erikstyers4005]

I think that was Galileo

[@Xo-3130]

Alexander Garrison That was Galileo

[@nordicnostalgia8106]

That's what I learned from Nine Worlds hosted by Patrick Stewart

[@joshuanaumowicz5115]

You are correct sir. A lot of people did that mostly because if they would be punished they were on their deathbed so who cares and a final work always is more popular/interesting than the stuff in between. He did talk openly about it however.

[@sdg131]

That was Galileo

[@Bansheexero]

Actually, Galileo was supported by the church too until he wrote a book where it had a character based on the pope which made fun of him during a time of political tension within the church, so he reacted to that.

[@Mariomario-gt4oy]

Luke Schwarz uh actually no. He dedicated his book to the pope and got his book banned when their theology was seen as attacked by his ideas

[@quleughy]

Yep. Galileo’s biggest enemy wasn’t the church. It was his ego.

[@quleughy]

But to be fair, that’s not to give the Catholic Church a pass. Persecuting someone because they called the Pope a simpleton is still authoritarian in nature and against the principles of free-speech.

[@Mariomario-gt4oy]

quleughy what are you talking about? They EXPLICITLY state he was jailed for his heretical claims about the world and was forced to recant it. Him making fun of someone doesn't get you jailed.

[@tomatensoup190]

Luke Schwarz he wanted to critisize how simple minded the church and their world view is. This is a legitimatw thing to do. Not a smart one though.

[@electricmaster23]

Most people think this about Galileo, not Copernicus.

[@marsfischer7161]

electricmaster23 yeah can confirm this

[@fireemblemaddict128]

Yeah, and it turns out most people are right. Adam has been running out of things to talk about for a long time now.

[@coreytaylor447]

can comfirm, no one in my class even knew who he was

[@Sectormann]

electricmaster23 youre right

[@benfoster1018]

Didn't even know who this guy was until now

[@johnnygyro2295]

Priest: Your Holiness! Capernicus' new book says that Earth actually revolves around the sun! Pope: Who cares?! I'm trying to figure out the miracle of how Jesus turned water into wine! Me: This guy's asking the real questions here...

[@fathertime38]

Everybody gangsta till the pope becomes the Ponderer

[@iamsinistar8971]

One of life's greatest mysteries.

[@anthonypalo8191]

Or the bread turns to body and blood, a eucharistic miracle. Im serious though

[@LukeMaps]

@@anthonypalo8191 We don't have literal miracles anymore. The ability to confer miraculous gifts was by the laying of the apostles' hands. When the apostles died, the conference of miracling ended. And when those that had the ability to perform miracles died, miracles ended. We don't need miracles now that the Bible is in its entirety.

[@butterball33]

"One sin more heinous than burning books, is not reading them." - Ray Bradbury

[@astrophonix]

Two points missed, Copernicus delayed publishing the book until he was on his death-bed, and he said he wasn't saying the sun was literally the centre, just that this approach made calculating orbits much easier.

[@Xo-3130]

astrophonix Regardless the church used his model for theoretical work on astronomy. They at the time treated it like string theory.

[@aaddiis45021]

Well people knew Earth is round wayyyyyyy before Copernicus.

[@tadm123]

@@aaddiis45021 We're not talking about whether the earth is round, but whether it revolves around the sun.

[@portocredito]

He didn't 'delay' publishing the book until he was on his death-bed. He died of complications from a stroke as it was being published, a big difference. Back then it took years to develop a book and many months to go through all the steps to publish. Copernicus could not forecast that he would get a stroke. The book was planned in 1539, he died in 1543. One of the guys that helped Copernicus plan his book was the local Catholic bishop. A summary of his ideas were published 2 years before anyway, so the death-bed publication is a myth.

[@blasterelforg7276]

Copernicus didn't say that. The guy who printed his book added it without author's approval.

[@veridian4433]

But the real question is *Did Trapp hate Pat?*

[@fulgeralbastru]

well..Does Katie love cocaine ?

[@iluvmyswamp7948]

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[@adamramizovic8330]

Veridian The real question is.... WhO wAz fHoN3

[@saladfingersasmrparty9768]

Veridian no. He just wanted the true crime documentary to make him famous

[@nathanrail-road9662]

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[@danielmalinen6337]

Actually five bishops blessed Copernicus' thesis before they banned it and established own monastery to study Copernicus' observations. And while Galileo was investigating this, he just said that Copu was right in all time. As a result, Galileo was promoted to head of the Papal Academy of Sciences. Unfortunately, times were not favorable for Galileo. (source: The Story of God, With Morgan Freeman by National Geographic)

[@danicocktail1473]

Very interesting! I'm from Poland and I knew that initially Catholic Church was not opposed to the scientific discoveries of the renaissance, but in fact contributed and supported these discoveries in many ways. What I didn't know is that the Protestant Reformers were initially so anti-science (though I appreciate their contribution to enlightenment and capitalism later on!)

[@ranelgallardo7031]

The Protestant reformation legacy is evident as they’re the ones against evolution.

[@anthonypalo8191]

Yes they instituted the first universities. Because knowledge to them was understanding God and teaching knowledge was charity to others.

[@Kris-lu1rs]

That is almost criminally oversimplified

[@L30N4tER]

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[@Kris-lu1rs]

Most humans are criminally stupid. Especially those who call humans criminally stupid

[@custos3249]

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[@someguy3263]

Rising Horizon Gaming Let's keep pointing fingers shall we.

[@Kris-lu1rs]

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[@oscardufosse]

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[@BrokeBot]

Doofus actually...

[@Crystal_Bull]

Reminds me of Veritasium.

[@AlexAegisOfficial]

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[@slavturtle7222]

Doofus

[@ethanpatel3622]

Just so y'all know, the Bible doesn't actually say that the earth revolves around the sun. The problem arises from a misreading of a passage saying that the sun stood still in the sky and the misinterpretation that it meant the sun revolves around the earth. When in actuality it was obviously the earth that stopped spinning

[@EPrimeify]

TruTV: Adam, we need to get on Season 3 Adam: I'm fucking tired and burnt out. I just wanna stream on Twitch all the time. TruTV: Well you've got a contract for another 2 years. So you can't say no. *Adam sighs* Adam: Fine. I'm too lazy to put on pants right so, so let's just do an animated season.

[@PKWinning07]

Wait he has a twitch stream?

[@gerardomunoz6725]

"Actually" the real problem the church had with Galileo is that they hired him to write an objective review on 2 opposing scientific theories but instead Galileo wrote a completely biased paper that included an insult to the pope. Also Galileo had no real evidence to back up his theories which even his scientific peers at the time called him out on the bogus evidence he presented.

[@gunterheisler]

Why do I think that the narrator is a box trying to sell me insurance or a sad middle aged man with a scientist father in law making a pitch about apples

[@shizuwolf]

Gunter Heisler what about a talking dog with a boy named Sherman

[@Monstradon]

Goddamn it, Jerry!

[@thomasmacdonald8735]

He's actually a lawyer trying to pin all his crimes on Jake Peralta

[@alexlee2581]

Is anyone *H U N G E R Y F O R A P P L E S?*

[@Cobalt985]

_snaps_ Yes!

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[@gozzilla177]

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[@richleebruce]

Actually, Adam and College Humor got a lot wrong. Yes, Copernicus worked for the church his adult life and was a clergyman. Yes, he was a Catholic Church bureaucrat. Yes, the leaders of the Protestant movement rejected his teaching on astronomy, that was the reason that some cardinals and the pope liked him. They wanted to use his ideas to undermine the Lutheran idea that the faith should be determined by the Bible alone. The church gave Copernicus money, published the book, and the pope allowed Copernicus to dedicate the book to him. They pushed him to publish earlier, but he was so afraid that he waited until he was about to die to publish. Not exactly heroic. Great scientists are frequently cowards who delay the publication of their own work. Frequently their fears are exaggerated. Darwin and Newton were much the same. Scientific observation at the time of Copernicus did not support the idea that the earth orbited the sun. They could not observe a parallax shift in the stars as the earth orbited the sun. This is why Aristotle and ancient scientists rejected the theory that the earth orbited the sun. It is also the reason that renaissance and early modern scientists rejected the same theory. It was not until hundreds of years later that we could measure the parallax shift. So the theory of Copernicus gained a hearing largely because it was useful to one side in a religious fight, not because the evidence supported it. By the time of Gallello, there was an anti-Christian movement in Italy that supported the Copernican theory. Furthermore, time had shown that the original justification for the theory was false. The pope and several cardinals had thought Copernicus would wreck the Protestant Reformation. Obviously, the Protestant reformation survived. Through all this the Catholic Church carefully avoided taking a doctrinal position on the scientific issue. Sure they tried people for heresy for supporting the Copernican theory, but those were simply administrative mistakes. Thus the Catholic Church remains infallible on doctrine.

[@frederickoftheartic2209]

It's been 3 years and I'm surprised nobody asked for sources yet.

[@anthonypalo8191]

What a bunch of falsehoods, you claim the Church supported Copernicus that espouses Heliocentrism, then stood against Galileo who espouses the same. Straight up fiction. Defies all logic.

[@londoncrow500]

What is Parallax shift?

[@robustanybody5138]

​@@anthonypalo8191well it has more to do that Galileo stated them as facts and not theory without proving it And the fact that the church sponsored him and he released that theory as a fact would tarnish the church

[@naive.834]

'Who cares? I'm trying to figure out the miracle of how Jesus turned water into wine' me when i overthink

[@DenderFriend]

They're really exaggerating how misinformed we are about him

[@femcelgirlfren]

Batman yup

[@DenderFriend]

Ben Wangler don't worry I don't

[@mynameisconnorimtheandroid6080]

bombkirby how is making a comment connected to taking it personally?

[@nettart4924]

That’s how they get views..

[@fumarc4501]

But we are misinformed and this is a cartoon and you’re not even real.

[@thrushhattstewohlgern5006]

Funny how Galileo is rarely portrayed as the jerk he really was. Or how he actually got in trouble with the Church

[@CasualNotice]

Everyone knows the earth is really a self-expanding algorithm in a complex interdimensional simulation. We are all NPCs in some space god's game of The Sims.

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[@samc2450]

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[@fulcrum2951]

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[@Joearango481]

Oh no, copernicus my most beloved childhood hero. How will we go on.

[@monroerobbins7551]

I love this show; they correct themselves, they do lots of fact checking, and has experts on the show to back it up. Plus, the fact that it’s funny makes it easier to listen to and enjoy it.

[@Sihengli]

I've been waiting for this one

[@OurFoundingLiars]

Adam forgot to tell you that fidget spinners are made after Copernicus’s first model. The world is fidget spinner shaped. Keep asking questions.

[@robiu013]

copernicus? wasn't that a horse in yugioh?

[@catherinevo6060]

robiu013 no, I don't think so

[@sthlng2180]

Tfw people start assigning the word ''Copernicus'' to that rather than a pioneer.

[@fumarc4501]

robiu013 oh you

[@redgames5645]

robiu013 You disgust me, you racist pig

[@finris1]

And survived being hit by a car, and yugi's body when Tristan missed the catch.

[@whowhowhowhocomeon]

“Please take out your textbook, and throw it in the fire.” Words we all wish to hear

[@robertgotschall3262]

and every Catholic School I have had experience with (both as a teacher, and student), teaches this. Its only been a shock to people I know who already do not like or know anything about Catholic Church history. He was a priest, for cryin' out loud.

[@earloflemongrab5664]

Is that the voice of Jerry from rick and morty?

[@MalitisLP]

thought the same thing

[@buttfartlickknee590]

Chris Parnell… he's in lots of stuff… (SNL, 30 Rock, Archer… etc)

[@SomePeopleCallMe]

You should do Adam Ruins Mars Bars

[@s.d.966]

Thanks for it, Adam.

[@rafaelarelayze3830]

I love this video its super fun and helpful

[@SzpanerPL1]

Mikołaj Kopernik!

[@stephenking5852]

Huh?

[@ILoveYouSylvanas]

@@stephenking5852 that's his actual name ^

[@marcinboch2215]

Nom

[@chaowingchinghongfingshong3109]

Not really, since he was a german, his name was Nikolaus Kopernikus

[@zongsoe]

@@chaowingchinghongfingshong3109 no. Kopernik was born in the kingdom of poland in toruń and was not german. He was born when poland was occupying prussia.

[@nettart4924]

IM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE MIRACLE OF HOW JESUS TURNED WATER INTO WINE!

Soi el numero 14

[@Redbird-dh7mu]

That is the real question we should be trying to answer

[@fvckem260]

It was just one of the first magic tricks pulled in the history of mankind.

[@ashwiensewpersad2927]

flufflepufflover me 2 😂

[@MyReluctantTheology]

I'm really tempted to send this to my pastor. He made a side comment about the church condemning Copernicus, but it was a minor detail of a presentation he gave. I would have mentioned it when he opened up for questions and comments, but at my church, there are so many people who are highly opinionated. I'm glad that my pastor allows people to question him, and not only that, but he also allows people to correct him on misinformation.

[@kevinmencer3782]

I've always had a hard time figuring out how this myth even started. Even if, for some reason, they found it doctorinally vexing, wouldn't someone just say "The Earth revolves around the Sun, and so too must the people of Earth revolve around the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost"?

[@snowangelnc]

I would say it's because they would have been assuming the earth was at the center no matter what religious beliefs they happened to have had. They would not have been the only society in history to have gotten that wrong. The verses that supposedly teach the sun goes around the earth are full of the same phrases we use today. Think about which sounds more natural to us - "The sun is coming up," or "The part of the earth that we are on is rotating toward the sun." Just because we say the sun is up, the sun is high in the sky, the sun is just above the horizon, etc, doesn't mean we don't know that the earth revolves around the sun. It would make sense that if they thought the earth was the center of the solar system then they would take those verses as confirmation for what they already believed. Then when they were told that the sun was the center while the Bible still said the sun rose and set, and they didn't know what to do with that.

[@TonkarzOfSolSystem]

"But father, last week you said the sun revolved around the earth, what else can't we trust you about?"

[@kenabbott8585]

If you mean the myth of geocentrism, because of the Greeks. Through most of the medeival era and later in the Renaissance, the Greek and Roman empires were considered to be the absolute pinnacle of knowledge, and if you had some idea that disagreed with what some ancient Greek said, then you're just wrong. We did the same with medicine, holding onto outdated Greek ideas like the Miasma Theory of disease because the Ancient Greeks Said So. If you're talking about the myth of Copernicous being persecuted, it started with the Draper-White Thesis. Draper and White were amateur historians and professional atheists who made up the "Conflict thesis," the idea that the Classical Roman and Greek empires were bastions of scientific and social and artistic progress (and not general hellholes where 98% of the population were slaves living in their own shit and the rest spent most of their time buggering kids for fun), and then those eeeeeeeeebil Christians decided that learning stuff was a sin and banned it all, casting us into the Dark Ages. That's why Columbus and Magellan became such heroes--supposedly, the bad ol' Church told us the world was flat, and anybody who said "Wait, then why does that ship seem to disappear when it goes down over the horizon?" got burned at the stake, but then brave freethinkers defied the church and we entered an age of learning and enlightenment. That's also where we get the persecution of Copernicus, the burning of the Library of Alexandria, Giordani Bruno as a martyr to Reason, and all the other bullshit.

[@xMDawg19x]

I guess with Rick and Morty on a hiatus, the voice of Jerry has time for this show!

[@mrmoseby8247]

That’s jerry from rick and morty

[@kot_filemon3936]

Its a nice surprise that you make a video about a historic figure from this part of the world soo thank you very much, we finally feel included, thus so many polish people commenting this video, enjoy the discussion in polish xd + I just wanted to mention that Copernicus and I come form the same town. Seriously.

[@squirrel6102]

TheNica183 I almost died yesterday

[@theofficialbobsagetyoutube604]

I showed this to my history teacher, I then got sent home for it

[@Krshwunk]

Awesome ... until the Galileo part ... there's even more ridiculous myths surrounding that fellow

[@isopodmemes6180]

Is the person who speaks to adam the voice actor of Jerry

[@weebmaster8414]

Glad you figured that out. Because Jerry is the narrator here

[@brianabryant3555]

Me: Writes a 35 page essay my teacher assigned and turning it in at 12:01 The Teacher: 1:05

[@jameszetterman4487]

This was narrated in part by the guy who voices the box in the Progressive insurance commercials.

[@fuckologic1202]

So… As usual, Lutheranians screwed everything

[@jbiondo6]

Literally learned about this last week.... couldn’t have made the video a week early smh....

[@gnewt75]

These animated Adam ruins clips are addictive.

[@gamolly]

Wow I feel so much smarter without actually having to substantially inform myself about anything... thanks, guys!

[@mptvofficial7880]

2:19... Is that... *HALO THEME SONG?!*

[@AnacondaHL]

wait, so the answer is still...yes? what exactly was ruined here?

[@phantasosxgames8488]

People think that the Catholic Church was against Science as whole , with proactive persercution , especially in cases were it was possible to prove by maths. But the truth is that the Catholic Church helped many of those scholars and even helped them , it's only when the counter-reform occured is that their stance changed. So , scientists persecussion is not from a theology reason , but in a political one. An example of political division was the entire creation of the Anglican Church , simply because monks didn't want celibacy and the king wants a male heir so he tried to divorced his wife to a younger one to try again.

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[@Baryonyx89]

What was ruined was the idea that the Catholic Church was oppressively anti-science. The reality is that the fundamentalist Protestants were the oppressive anti-scientists while the Catholic Church was just riding the bandwagon of public opinion for the sake of maintaining popularity.

[@thevampirefrog06]

Also they don't go into this in the video, but Copernicus' big treatise on heliocentrism wasn't even published until after he'd died (he was still finishing it up). Can't persecute a dead man. The Catholic church was (and still is) actually super into accurate astronomy, because that's how you calculate certain feast days and the like (eg. Easter is the first Sunday after the first full moon after the spring equinox). The then-current geocentric models were crap at this, they had to be insanely complicated and constantly re-adjusted to fit the data because the opening premise was just that bad. So when Copernicus came along, with his simple model that was way way way more accurate, the Church was actually pretty psyched about it.

[@darexinfinity]

It felt like this was a minor correction rather than something being ruined. As if the Catholic Church wasn't against science for hundreds of years.

[@rijuchaudhuri]

From this point, I think Adam can single handedly alter the course of history. He's boggling my mind!

[@milanamusings]

MY FAVOURITE SEIRIES ON KZbin

[@justin764]

Yep, that’s what us Catholics do.... *HISSING LIKE A VAMPIRE*

[@durdleduc8520]

“Please take out your textbook and throw it in the fire” Why isn’t this done in modern-day schools again?

[@TwitchyTopHat1]

Did you just create a KZbin style sub-series to your show? Niice

[@AHumanPerson02]

But his name was: ,,Mikołaj" 😓

[@juliachodak4343]

Lord Ścierwojad Yeah but a lot of historic figures names are translated to be easier and its not weird. Just like translation Szekspir for Shakespeare

[@JTCubing916]

Julka Chodak but nicolaus sounds nothing like mee-ko-why

[@haradream7394]

He was actually more German than Polish Both of his parents were German He studied on university's dedicated only to German students

[@adrianbigboss5685]

Józef Piłsudski Um actually, his DNA matches Slavic people, which supports the theory that his father was a Germanized Pole. His surname is polish, he served the Polish King etc. The concept of nationality didn't exist back then, but he still was born and lived in a Polish controlled land.

[@pingu4238]

You're all wrong. His actual name was "Niko Kopernikainen" and he was 100% Finnish!

[@l.a.u]

Greetings from Toruń to the hometown of Copernicus ^^

[@brandonneilsta.teresa3494]

I was today years old when I realized it was the Protestants who were responsible for the ban on his book, not the Catholics.

[@sophiaageitos2763]

Never knew this THX Adam

[@fathertime38]

Should’ve given Copernicus a Polish accent.

[@lemoinecopiste1691]

Julius II : "Oh he dedictate for me? So lovely"" history annedoct fun fact I search that since a while think Adam!

[@Borderose]

La Chaine du Moine Copiste. Alexander threw better parties.

[@lemoinecopiste1691]

think for the advice i will take a look on it

[@yeyeoni9196]

I think the reason why the church was so interested in astronomy was because it says God put the heavenly bodies to mark the seasons and that was a major impact in the determination of the deterministic view of nature that science views seeing the universe as a clock

[@anthonypalo8191]

Its a way of understanding God and his creation. And teaching about this knowledge to others is charity.

[@fulcrum2951]

I like how hate or negative issues attract attention more than positive things or compromise

[@NewMessage]

When is he gonna do one on 'Ancient Historical Sites' that aren't real? 'Adam Ruins Ruins' has got to be in the works.. Or one on Neo-Paganism? 'Adam Ruins Runes'?

[@ADAMan123]

lol

[@christianjefferson5539]

0.37 he should’ve said “okay boomer”

[@chaemina8011]

Whoever that is watching this in 2020, have a nice day in this horrible year

[@jeromealday614]

Seems like Adam is the only one keeping the channel alive...

[@Amanwithbones]

So money was the reason for heresy.

[@neroblack2704]

Amanwithbones watch enough of these and you'll realise money is the reason for pretty much everything.

[@mynameisconnorimtheandroid6080]

Amanwithbones Hold on, when did they mention money? What I gathered from this video was that they did it to attract people back and/or to keep the still Catholic christians. I mean, sure more people would make them more money but it was mainly about influence

[@berengerchristy6256]

and the more influence they get the more money they get. the more money they get the more power they have. its always about money

[@eugeneflores6153]

Human greediness is the bane of all problems

[@II-tv1fc]

"I am trying to figure out how Jesus turned water into wine" --- Pope knew what was important

[@jmurray1110]

​@Mark Inglese probably telekinesis and particle shifting this would be that he used open top or airated vessels and transformed the air into the necessary atoms at a fundamental level or something like that that or it never actually happened guess where my moneys at

[@jmurray1110]

@Mark Inglese it was an off the cuff explanation for a myth i don't believe in at least its a mechanism unlike the magic usually contributed to it

[@jmurray1110]

@Mark Inglese perhaps but i like ragging on religion

[@mjstory1976]

Love this series

[@LFTRnow]

Glad I came here after seeing the ~1.5 min version of this. That one leaves you very confused. This one is far better.

[@waver7275]

*The POPE?!!??!*

[@ohyeahyeah2698]

Yes we support science. We are not closed minded baffoonz.

[@doctorrussia]

At first I thought the video was going to be about the fact that Copernicus was not the first person to discover that the earth revolves around the sun. It was actually Islamic scholars like 100s of years before him.

[@Xeno7373]

They mention it in the full episode

[@doctorrussia]

Menan Kubilay oh that's good

[@justbreathe549]

Actually one of the first ones to propose that the earth orbited the sun was a Greek astronomer, Aristarchus of Samos.

[@robustanybody5138]

Nope it was greeks

[@jameshojnowski8455]

Galileo was punished for two things. First, the Pope requested Galileo publish his works only as a theory, alongside geocentric theory, due to the ongoing Protestant Reformation which was using the Church's tolerance of heliocentric theory as a line of attack against them (The Pope at the time and Galileo were actually friends). Galileo refused to do this. Galileo then published his work in the form of a play where he called the Pope an idiot. In a time when the Catholic Church was literally fighting for its existence against Protestant groups trying to replace them, it is understandable that the Catholic Church went after Galileo, if not right. That said, the trial of Galileo was often extremely mischaracterized. Despite all the pretty artwork showing him standing trial in a huge room with hundreds of witnesses, his actual trial was in a room with about 5 others, where he recanted and was sentenced to indefinite house arrest. House arrest where he was allowed to continue to his studies and experiments, and from where he even published his best work (and most accurate) on astronomy. And yet today Galileo continues to be used, especially by Protestants to try to showcase how "intolerant" the Church is of science. Despite the fact that without the Catholic Church we would have no University for all these people to criticize from.

[@melogavenue]

Gotta love how Jerry Smith's voice actor from Rick and Morty is in this.

[@manssjodell8619]

Just to sum it up: the thing you have heard about the church rejecting copernicus theory is false but also true but definitely not whilst it still is true at the end.

[@JKNation]

T F.W. you do history and they just gave catholics some British accents and the Protestants German

[@natansandle9284]

What's wrong with the Protestant having a German accent?

[@JKNation]

Natan Sandle nothing it was just the English were Protestants absolutely and totally against Catholics

[@Santiago_Nyczka]

Weren't the english of the Anglican Church?

[@seb0rn739]

Martin Luther has a german accent because he was german.

[@camclarke7006]

That is a true fact. And they were especially against the Irish Catholics. >:(

[@johnpeters9254]

The voice of the announcer guy sounds exactly like Jerry from Rick and Morty. Is that the same guy doing this?? Btw love the episode.

[@Goozzie]

oh shit, I just realized the voice actor for the guy arguing with adam is the same guy that voices Jerry in rick and morty

[@maksszczepanski6386]

Is it just me who thinks that americans are lied to when it comes to history? We don't have that problem in Poland. Do americans even know what country Copernicus was from?

[@AHumanPerson02]

Maks Szczepański obawiam się że nie a to przez zmiane jego nazwiska na mniej polsko brzmiące 😓

[@maksszczepanski6386]

Kompletnie zmienili jego imię z Mikołaj Kopenik na Nicolaus Copernicus. Kto to wymyślił?

[@sickinsidelv9256]

Maks Szczepański I'm not even kidding, I never even heard about this man in school. American schools are more about teaching kids how to act and follow direction rather then learning to think for yourself.

[@hamatee3175]

Maks Szczepański I haven’t even started learning about him yet so I guess poland

[@maksszczepanski6386]

You are correct but if you live in america you will probably never learn about him

[@vortrexs6312]

up next adam ruins iziz

[@Mayeur000Donz]

"Malory Archer never even registered he spy business under government registration!"

[@Walterdecarvalh0100]

This is such a simplified version of history.

[@chefbanjo8139]

That jingle at the end sounds like 1-800-Cheerios.

[@kimbrolyy]

Yup, many scientists wanted to discover more about god's creation. So religion and science worked together

[@imorokr]

If by worked together you mean the religious elites funded their work, sure. Still, I don't think you can really say we've learned anything from religion... like at all.

[@tomatensoup190]

Kimberly Brouwers but scientists were bound to bibles dogmas and premises about the world. Therefore divergent views and analytic conclusions were just titled as theories. Some people had a problem with that.

[@animaljp3]

Except for the bible says different things than what science says. Not caring what the bible says allows for science to grow. Caring about it chokes science

[@dilanasjonaitis6893]

irainbow Talk for yourself. I, for example, completely disagree.

[@pranayr9284]

Religion went with creationism. Science went with Evolution and Big Bang theory.

[@rewer]

That’s kinda awkful

[@fancybulldogs1053]

rewer U

[@fulcrum2951]

Awkful

[@user-hr7xk5bp4u]

نلاتببردذ

[@arturoortega1101]

Nice video

[@finedandy9514]

THANK YOU ADAM

[@kenabbott8585]

And here I thought this was going to involve the truth. Silly me. The simple truth is that *everybody* thought Copernicus was something of a nut, until Gallileo published his book. Even then, Gallileo had little scientific backing for it until Kepler and Newton manage to work out the physics of it. Martin Luther mentioned Copernicus once, John Calvin not at all. Because of what we knew and didn't know about science, opposition to Copernicus--lack of understanding about inertia, for example, and the inability to find a stellar parallax--came from other scientists. Likewise, the Catholic Church's "persecution" of Galileo had nothing to do with a fear of science or of the idea of heliocentrism--and the claim that they did it because they wanted to be more oppressive than the Protestants is the kind of ridiculous bullshit that displays "I'm an atheist because I believe in reason" for the ridiculous lie that it is. Galileo taught that his theory, which at the time was unproven and full of errors, was solid fact. He was told that he could teach heliocentrism as a theory, but not as proven fact--he did just that, and called the Pope a dummy in the bargain. Cardinals expressly told Galileo that if he could prove his theory was fact, then Catholic dogma would be changed to match it.

[@briancampbell1645]

Recheck your sources. The pope's real problem with Galileo was that he meddled in Theology in direct opposition to his agreement with HIS FRIEND the pope. The pope's problem was not the science, but the fact that someone untrained was making theological proclamations AFTER agreeing not to, while at the same time deliberately insulting the Pope himself. Dinesh D'Souza, "What's So Great About Christianity" Chapter 10. Also Arthur Koestler, "The Sleepwalker: A History of Man's Changing Vision of the Universe" (New York: Penguin, 1990), 432. D' Souza lists source after source disputing the false myth that the church's problem with Galileo was his science. It was rather, his poor political acumen, and his failure to abide by his agreements. Sometimes even scientists are taken in by myth rather than fact.

[@blackpenman]

Lol quoting Dinesh D'Souza. You're totally right btw, and many reputable sources back your claims up, but Dinesh D'Souza is not one of them.

[@austinfarley4971]

It bugged me so much why I recognized that other narration voice but couldn't put my finger on it.

[@codecatx5]

I can only hear Chris Purnell as Jerry. Which really makes this a special kind of fun to see him get schooled.

[@sansding473]

Galileo didn't deserve that

[@Borderose]

Sans Ding. He kinda did. Galileo was said to be kind of a dick sometimes. He called The Pope an idiot despite the guy being on his side for a minor issue. This ruined the goodwill between the church and Galileo as well as the Medici who employed him: he became a political liability despite being their prized intellectual.

[@AaronPaulIbarrola]

Sans Ding Yeah. The pope is a monarch. He's lucky he didn't it wasn't a more stern King he insulted. I'd say he was saved from making that mistake by being tucked away safely in his little home.

[@MaMastoast]

So yea the catholic church did hate him, only a little later than first presented it the video

[@Baryonyx89]

"So yea the catholic church did hate him" No, they didn't. They saved face by giving the impression of hating him. The fundamentalist Protestants were the ones who actually hated him.

[@stephenking5852]

Fundamentalism sucks. Religions should be moderate

[@Redbird-dh7mu]

He was actually dead for a pretty long time before he was considered bad by the Church. They didn’t actually hate him as well, they just acted liked they did

[@seanmichaels8060]

If the Vatican ever gets in the way of science again, scientists can just drop an atom bomb or a dirty bomb on Vatican City. Problem solved instantly.

[@kubaniski]

Publically signaled against him. It was a case of on one hand we can support the theory and risk all of Germany turning Protestant or we can countersignal the theory and we might lose Germany and gain what? exactly?

[@trashman3539]

is it just me or does the narrator sound like jerry from rick and morty?

[@ZeldafanNr2]

same voice actor

[@C3Pinko]

Just a Pole proud of copernicus passes by.

[@GummyBear651]

That voice sounds an awful lot like Chris Parnell...