Did the Concrete Crew SCREW US!? It's Falling Apart after 2 days

[@russellwatters5891]

We call the mix on site trucks here in Florida, concrete on call trucks. The slab crew was good about trying to catch the "self leveling mud", that driver deserved to be terminated. Sometimes with those setups, the potash and lye doesn't mix well. I've seen it a few times in my 44 years. Blistering and flaking. As far as the slab crew is concerned, they look like almost all the concrete crews in Florida, and most know what they're doing. I wouldn't have a problem hiring them at all. Sorry for the bumps in the road. Love ya'll ❤️

[@NomadicHooker]

I agree. Whoever judged these guys by "LOOKS" is shallow. Looked like laid back"Good Ole Country Boys" to me, but they knew what they were doing. Ridiculous to judge that way. I blame the mix more than anything. That stuff was certainly soupy.

[@pinkmosquito22]

Same here in Central NY

[@VictoryOutdoorServices]

That contractor was like, Eeeeeasy Money! Seriously though, that should come back out and be redone.

[@jcl1201]

It’s 100% on the foreman as soon as the wet cement starts out he could have rejected the concrete period he knew it would not pass a slumb test

[@juanengelaar7069]

If these concrete guys really had so much experience, they would have stopped the truck pouring the concrete, because they saw it wasn't mixed correctly, but they didn't. And furthermore, if you pour concrete under the sun, you have to cover it with plastic sheeting and keep it wet for new days in order to have it dry at the correct speed.

[@territurner4115]

Jason and Danielle. So sorry this happened. Whatever you do, Dont Just Settle. Get an opinion from someone beside those two companies. This is YOUR FOREVER! This is the "foundation for your life together". Best wishes for a successful solution.

[@johnnelson8956]

Bull crap! Any crew worth their weight would have rejected the load.

[@FAST_EDDIE]

💯 This is exactly what I was going to comment.

[@mikeroth3628]

I’ve been doing it 24 years. What’s happening to the top of the concrete is called scaling it’s because the finishers got on it too early didn’t allow all the bleed water to come out trapped it in between the top layer of finish concrete in the bottom, it’s only going to get worse and it should’ve been saw cut Every 8 ft.² and it’s called a jiffy mixer that mixes on site and the only thing they changed in the cement dust is there allowed to add a percentage of lime dust to the Portland cement instead of using fly Ash or slag as a filler

[@w0wva]

Absolutely the only way to correct this the right way is remove this old pour and redo completely. You see, a wet pour weakens the entire thickness of the concrete. You're just seeing the beginning of what will happen in 6 months to a couple years. This will crack and start decaying and turn to sand. You can do what you feel best, but I will guarantee you that would never EVER pass a core test, even to the minimum standards.

[@timwilliams849]

Yes both the concrete crew and supplier know that it will continue to deteriorate

[@jacklabloom635]

I would never accept that product. It needs to be broken up, removed, and completely redone from scratch.

[@RodneyPlath]

I agree with you....They are trying to "make it right" as cheep as possible...It doesn't matter how nice they seem to be, I would except nothing less than breaking up getting rid of it and starting from scratch to include them being responsible for the plum/elect

[@BrenBuskirk]

Absolutely

[@Sfk887]

I agree, start over with new concrete. I would never cut the top off and salvage it. 10 years from now if you have problems it's gonna be more difficult and expensive. That slab was built pole barn style anyway and not designed for much weight. One time I jacked part of a house up off a slab over a whole garage. Removed all the concrete in the garage area. Then poured a new slab designed by a structural engineer. Then we dropped the house back down onto the new slab. Wasn't an easy feat. I would pour a new slab..

[@robertmcdonald9280]

It was to wet.

[@robertmcdonald9280]

If the crew did not add water, the truck came with to much water. It's called a slump. You want a 4 slump with what you did.

[@marilynfdavis891]

So good to hear honest people want to make it right with you!! They both want to have their businesses succeed with a good reputation. Mistakes happen & thankfully they are making it right!! 💜

[@driver1421]

I agree with all of the negative comments, if the concrete crew had any idea of what they were doing they would have rejected the concrete when they saw it was way too wet, you can't tell how strong the concrete is by looking at it, do a stress test on it to see if it could hold up a house.

[@Hunting451]

The crew should have known to reject the mix. It was obviously to wet. Obviously.

[@tinybubbles263]

Just like a waitress bring you a burned steak. Should know to return it.

[@johnharzewski1605]

Yes exactly

[@Bridget82267]

Right... I drove cement mixer for 11 yrs in AZ. And when I was new I got rejected once for being to wet. And he said it was fresh mix, they all fresh!!! You only get loaded and go to one job.

[@TashaOneal-l8h]

​@@Bridget82267so what they made it right

[@OZORIAMEDIA]

100%

[@MrCant50]

Use your slab for as a base and pour a new 4'' over it, pin the floors together with 1/2'' rod on a 6' grid (do not grind the floor you are wasting time and money) I have been in the business for all most 40 years.Have a great day.

[@philsla]

Totally agree! Easier than ripping it out

[@ryansalyers5515]

Yes, use the original slab as a mud slab. I'm an old ironworker and have installed tons and tons of rebar and mesh and been around thousands of yards of poured concrete. Mud slabs are commonly used at Nuclear power plants.

[@kurt16950]

I did notice that the concrete was way too wet for what we normally would pour a floor.

[@ladonnaparks4864]

Do not live with anything . It's your house and very important. This is a lifetime change... Don't build on top of something already messed up . They need to make it right

[@randymackintosh6559]

I would NOT build on that slab....given the wet pour and the bad mixer/worker...you have NO IDEA how it will stand up in the end. Its not worth it...rip it out and redo it...compromising the base of your home is not a good idea...

[@rosearnold1220]

Jason, have them rip it all out and start again. You don’t want your foundation to crumble in the future. Sorry this happened. Don’t put a bandaid on it. They need to correct concrete mix for an entire new slab. The cracks will come if they don’t.

[@davequarnstrom9397]

Do a core test. The slab could come apart down the road when your house is done.

[@johnpearce3011]

Your best fix is to completely re due the slab .A poor pour should be replaced because it will decompose and crumble quicker in time, and you don't need that . Just remember if you don't fix it right now ,it will only be harder to get it fixed in the future , if ever .GOOD LUCK Quit making excesses for people with 40 years of experience .

[@tinybubbles263]

Jason like the refund not to redo the whole slab and wreck plumbing.

[@Jonathan-David-Fuller]

As a concrete contractor I will say both party’s are responsible. The crew should have rejected the wet concrete. Because the concrete has issues the provider should cover the cost for new concrete. Tear out and redo.

[@JamesArthurKayak]

That's why we price it high.. it'll happen eventually

[@garysoykin2783]

I've been a superintendent for 30 years on a construction site I didn't like the way they ready the soil telling you that it was hard clay and you don't need Rock in my opinion have it all torn out dig the soil down pack the soil down with a machine and then add 3/4 - Rock all the way and have that packed down with a vibrating machine all the way around and all through the whole job and then have the concrete redone

[@thomasthibedeau]

Whoever mixed and poured the concrete is 100% to blame for the bad pour.

[@Bridget82267]

@thomasthibedeau also the company who finished it...because they know what they are doing with concrete.

[@rawdawg218]

There is an air test as well! With a slump test.

[@barbclements9006]

So happy the two companies were willing to work with you and make you happy. ❤❤❤

[@Bridget82267]

Stand firm on it... they should take it out and repour.... My brother has his own concrete company here in AZ. Also drove for 20yr. That wet spot is a low spot in the pad.

[@carmene3534]

But they should've known that it was too wet too if they did that for a living, not only the concrete company but the crew should have known that

[@ritchieblackmore5204]

Wetter the mix the weaker the concrete drier the mix stronger the concrete

[@Bridget82267]

@ritchieblackmore5204 also has to do with psi mix. But your right... wetter concrete..weak

[@williambeasley8914]

Don’t let them do that. It will continue to crack and break down in years to come. Trust me, you will regret it down the road.

[@Katter715]

You must’ve done some really bad stuff to some people 😢

[@wilsam5800]

Honesty be carful, they will. tell you what you want to hear! just saying!! You pay for what you get! love you guys

[@amycraven2404]

They should be doing a bore out test of the cement to check out if the cement all the way through to the bottom pass the test . It’s like a round tube hole of the cement gets bored out and tested needs to be done to test the cement mix is 100% spot on .

[@eugenebear1872]

Oh brother. Sorry that happened to you. Of course they are cutting a 50% check back. Its cheaper for them to give you half than paying for the demolition and re-doing that mess including plumbing. I would get an expert to assess the pad. Its your foundation for your house. You want your house last decades on a solid foundation.

[@Tim-Sziminski]

Never tamped the fill dirt just wait lol watch some professional vids like Victory Concrete, Concrete with the Hauses, Rick Thomas Concrete, Bondi Built, that was the soupiest stuff ever seen lol they all would of turned that truck away

[@thehillbillyhermit7681]

That pour was definitely way too wet. most likely the reason for the flaking and cracking. I drove and delivered concrete for 19 years.

[@brewren851]

Have a core test done. Sorry that happened to y'all. Just make sure they do it right. Don't just take what they say. Get that test done. ❤❤❤

[@hillman-bm8fz]

The truck they used was called a volumetric truck, I drove a mixer in St Louis Missouri for 15 years and seen those type trucks and they're good for municipality but not for commercial pours as far as the argument stone has been used for years it just sucks water that's why I always left with a 1 inch higher slump when I left the plant they should do a complete tear out and not pour over a 5inch slump .

[@seancummings6379]

Dude you gotta listen to the comments here. Especially the ones from the guys who have been doing this for years. Have them rip it all out and start over like everyone is saying.

[@dannychristian4209]

Don’t accept that slab! Make them re-do. Will never be right. I knew as soon as i saw them pouring the wet concrete, there would be a problem. Wet concrete equals weak concrete. They knew better.

[@skeetermalcolm1655]

I noticed that it was too wet , we always got our concrete from a concrete plant, I thought when I seen the truck like wtf? When they poured it I already noticed the low spot where the water was laying, so freaking sorry for the ending, glad that they are taking care of you brother, good luck

[@angiemarshall1088]

Sad as it is please start over they both should have known that was too wet....you guys deserve to build your dream house ..please dont settle until its 100 % corrected

[@FAST_EDDIE]

Don’t settle! Needs to be removed and replaced. The whole pad is compromised. You and Danielle should have ZERO additional out of pocket expenses.

[@johnharzewski1605]

I’m glad they are taking care of you. But the worst part of it all is you need to remove all of that cement. You are better off making a new pad location and just turn that pad into a covered porch

[@carolsisti7203]

Omg I’m so sorry about this dilemma. Sad but I would NOT put my house on it.

[@mitchmalicoate2464]

Get everything they promise in writing

[@Ken-uj5wr]

That will crack some more because there is no gravel underneath for a foundation. The concrete guy said there was not going to be a heavy truck on the concrete; maybe not but a house (grain bin) is a lot heavier then a truck.

[@lidiaarbolario1722]

You're very happy and satisfied with the result? Really?

[@Vicbuild]

Holds water because it’s not level. We call the bird baths here in upstate Ny.

[@jesse7350]

The problem started with the poor mixture but at the end of the day this all falls on the concrete crew not telling the concrete supplier to take it back and send a new load. Everything else is just a justification for a crap chain of events. At least they will make it right, that determines the good from bad companies.

[@TheCrockers]

@jesse7350 this was mixed on site. It's not a ready mix. So you can't send it back. It's being mixed as it comes out of the truck. So absolutely no way to take anything back

[@jesse7350]

​@TheCrockers in this scenario when it starts pouring out like soup you would stop the truck and tell them it's too wet and you need a new truck. Happened about 4-5 months ago on one of the jobs I was working. The comments based on the concrete crews appearance is wack though. Every concrete company here in Florida looks like them guys and the majority of them know their stuff. Glad they're all making it right for you.

[@laureljacobs8609]

Of course you can send it back. As soon as the crew sawbit was bad, which ahould have been right away, they should of sent that truck away. What they do with the bad mix wouldnt be your problem. Please listen to all those experienced commentors & have the whole slab removed. Whats there could cause major problems down the road. The companies just want to do a fix it because they will lose less time & money doing it that way. Dont accept money back. Just insist it be removed & done right, including the plumbing.​@TheCrockers

[@marywilson1442]

I sure hope this works out for you. I would have had them replace the mix. You worrying about having to redo the plumbing could cost you later on. But that's up to you... Hope you're able to drill into it without it cracking...

[@chriscrone3620]

DO NOT LET THEM do the fix you are talking about before hiring a concrete testing lab!!! They will have an engineer who can redesign the fix or removal of concrete if it does not meet spec for strength and durability. The 2 companies should pay for this before you move on!

[@catherinecolbert7148]

THIS!!!

[@bobbydee1187]

Omg. They will have to pour it for free .Ive seen that in the news about the concrete. Lots of people are loosing their swimming pools and houses.

[@Sfk887]

I think all the concrete should come up. You have to Think about what' it's gonna be like in five years or ten years..

[@stephenreed9816]

I have poured a lot of concrete. If it came that wet it’s the concrete plants fault. If the crew added water it’s their fault. Too much cream came to top causing it to peel due to too much water.

[@julieivers7375]

Holy Moly! Glad the dude who was on the phone instead of doing the job he was getting paid for no longer works for them, he should have been able to alter the water content during the pore. The solution they've proposed will hopefully work, Ive seen slabs fixed that way before, the two week drying before tackling it also makes total sense. Fingers crossed for you guys. Why are folks griping about what the crew looked like? Did they expect to see them in a suit with shirt an tie? Jeez 🤦

[@wandaking4229]

But stop and think for a minute. If they have been doing this for years, they should have noticed the pour and stopped it right away. Funny our cement company here is not pouring anything like that. My son just had his garage poured and it was awesome. Very smooth and dense concrete.

[@benjaminbailey7429]

Just had a buddy see this video and the previous video that has a concrete business. What you see on the top is called scaling. Any settling in the future the slab is really gonna crack all over the place. He said your only route is to have it torn out and redone. Get an attorney now just in case they renig and push back at replacing the entire slab. This video is all the proof you need to put both of the companies out of business with bad publicity if they don’t wanna cover the new slab.

[@Mike-p7e]

Wood deck ,cement pad one more your out !!!! 8:24

[@billybooth6737]

Jason its simple break out the old cement slab and pour a new one correctly.

[@Katter715]

Hope you got a warranty

[@carlwier5713]

The combination of not power tamping the soil and a shitty pour will end in regret. Dont deposit that check yet. Couple years down the road after your house is built you'll see the sheetrock crack from the house settling weird.

[@susangay2446]

Bless your hearts. Mistakes are made, and it's nice to see both companies to own up to it. Sorry it held up plans to build . Things will work out eventually.

[@FreedomInc]

Its called scaling. It will 100% continue across the entire slab.

[@mizzkathryn7]

Jason, Good morning I am 71 years old here now but I do remember back in the day I had a cement slab poured and it was sloping toured the house you could see it with the eye. After three months still nothing done. I told them I was going to turn them in, fall was coming and I didn't want water in the house. Ok when it was all said and done they had to pour elmer's glue on top of the slab and then add two inche's of cement at least. The glue was to make the cements stick together that was very important Now I am not sure how they do it today its been 30 years but I do know there is a wrong and right way to repour cement over an existing cement. Good luck and God Bless.

[@kimparks1787]

Oh no! I’m so so sorry! I know how excited you and Danielle were to have the slab done! I hope you guys get this worked out and corrected.

[@genewileyopa]

I knew it was wet, I told my wife that maybe it's a self leveling mix. When I saw the stacks sticking above the form boards I wondered how they were going to us the 2x4 to get it pulled and leveled out. I wasn't sure. But I agree with others, as sone as the crew saw it was runny they should have stopped the truck right there. I'm not sure on the grinding deal and finish. I hope this works for the good. You sure did a great job explaining this Jason. Thank you for sharing.

[@kenyattac3239]

As long as they’re working to undo the wrong doing that’s what’s most important. Can’t wait to see what’s next after this is resolved!!

[@jacobray768]

Your videos lately are a prime example of your inexperience, ego and cost cutting in the wrong areas. This is an expensive learning curve for you that maybe investing into the right people/companies for their area of expertise is worth it in the end. Rather than just being a cowboy that is hoping to get lucky all of the time, one day you’ll learn.

[@TheCrockers]

There is no ego here, or trying to cut cost haha we called around and everyone was on average for the same price. This company was the 1st to be able to get on the job. We don't know much about concrete, and we're new to the area. So how would we know who is good or not?! That's a serious question for it. They showed us many pictures of the slabs they did, and they looked great. Unfortunately in situations like this, truly... how do you know how good a company is until they do the work.

[@Whatever-yv7vv]

He's got the biggest ego in Oklahoma!

[@poppythegoodtroll9136]

I’m so sorry this has happened, but glad you are both happy with the outcome

[@The44Irish]

That mix was garbage, and I had a bad feeling that it would not work out. It should have been refused at first sight. I have helped out a few pours over the years and when the mix was too sloppy this is what happened, and it needs to be removed and redone. You may get lucky and just remove the flakey parts and redo the surface with a skim coat. Good luck!!

[@marcpalmer4144]

I'm not sure why your making excuses for these companies. They need to fix this asap. They need to rip it out and redo it.

[@Bwood0626]

If the truck was mix on site the guys should have told the driver to use less water. It’s on the crew. They just didn’t wanna rake stiff concrete

[@susanbernard343]

It's so unfortunate this happened to you and Danielle but thankfully the right companies owned up to it and are going to make it right. Hopefully everything works out well for you.

[@fatboy54100]

I would have them add fiberglass to the mix The way they do that is when the trucks are mixing it, they throw a bag or two of fiberglass Into the truck it breaks up the bag they could add that for your inconvenience again. Basically all they do is throw it into the truck after the cement is in the truck and it turns around and breaks the bag apart, which mixes thoroughly with the concrete very strong concrete.

[@JamesArthurKayak]

How much lower was this bid from the next?

[@TheCrockers]

The same

[@MattLegiterson]

wow that's crazy and unlucky....both companies sound amazing!!

[@johnsnyder4143]

It was the concrete company’s fault but the crew could have refused to accept that delivery, along with you. I would’ve told the driver I wasn’t accepting it.

[@anj3595]

Cutting corners is the thing going on in our country. It is so sad.

[@Mewsielynx]

Yup...blame the government..is thus municipal ?😊❤😊

[@Mike-p7e]

Looks like your part of that 1% don’t insult people that know what there talking about !!

[@patriciahagedorn5694]

When these guys pulled up, I thought at the time that you really scraped the bottom of the barrel to find the cheapest bid. These guys looked so unprofessional. Don't go singing their praises until you see how well the redo comes out. Sanding the top down and pouring new concrete over it doesn't seem like a good idea. There are probably a ton of cracks underneath that you can't see. Don't let them try to jimmy rig it just to get off cheap. I would definitely request a whole new slab. I really think you'll be sorry if you don't.

[@seasonsathome2291]

I would get it completely redone. And they need to pay it all. This is the foundation of your house. It needs to be done correctly. I know that the piping is annoying but nothing can replace the foundation. You will only have more issues down the line. Btw, since your guy said it was ok to pour on clay and we have clay i checked. And pouring concrete on clay is not allowed where i am. Because clay contracts when it gets dry and they you have holes under the foundation and it cracks. We have had tons of gravel set in order to mitigate the clay issues. You should ask someone else for the second opinion. I hope it works well for you. Building a house is very annoying and exhausting. I am in the same boat with ours 😂

[@DB-vx8hz]

60 years in commercial construction. It's known as slump. Should no more than about a #5 slump. There are local testing labs that come on site and test the slump coming out of the truck. However some concrete men know how to test. That pour was way too wet. Usually when ordering reddy mix the slump can be designated to the concrete supplier. The truck will arrive with that mix. You should not add a lot of water or you mess up the desired slump.

[@TheCrockers]

It's not a ready mix truck. They mix on site

[@roberto.peterson9917]

putting plastic sheeting down before pouring does keep moisture from coming up only after the fact plastic sheeting also keeps water from leaving to quickly which effects strength of concrete if water disappears to quickly while curing

[@CynM.]

I thought it was strange that one of the concrete guys had on Crocs. Glad you got things figured out. You will have your bin house up in no time.

[@James_71]

Jason, you guys need to get another concrete company come out and look at it. OR let them watch the video. It was very wet, and most concrete crews will not pour it because they don't want to be responsible

[@Vicbuild]

You can grind it down and refinish it. But is it structurally sound that mix was like a 8 or 9 inch slump. That’s crazy to even use that mix. The concrete boss should have sent it back.

[@paulvanhouts3365]

Ah, it’s annoying isn’t it, understatement intended. It’s good that it will be rectified for you by both companies. Yep, I watched that pour and thought it’s too late now as the pour continued, besides I am watching a couple of days later. I liked your concrete crew, hard workers and worked like a team. I was a rescue/fire officer on a major construction site and saw some site shed floors rehabilitated as the concrete was not good. They used a flame to shatter the crappy surface, spalling is what I think it’s called. The surface was left rough for the new layer to bond to. A self leveling compound was used so the finished product looked good and seemed to take the traffic. Still, hope all goes well. Looking forward to your next steps when you can do them.

[@RadioJonesy]

Glad you got a good outcome in the end

[@ilovelucy7073]

They always put the blame on someone else Jason. That’s the first thing I said to my husband ( it was running wet). Jason , my husband has work in construction he has had concrete trucks line up for pouring concrete he said ( IT HAS TO BE TESTED MY HUSBAND TESTED IT ON JOB). and they didn’t do a good job finishing it. So sorry !

[@michaelmartinez3168]

It will continue to crack. It's the cement companies fault. They should have known how much water is needed. And once seeing come out should have noticed. The crew should have noticed it as well. How experienced are they. I do concrete work. And I knew better. I used to demo concrete with hydro expansive cement. It's a silent demo product. Look it up you will even see me doing the video. "Dexpan". Any way good luck hopefully it works out.

[@rachelwilliams398]

I wonder why the concrete crew would accept that wet mess. It must be removed and done again. Drive your tractor over it a few times and see what happens.

[@elainewolfe6751]

That is not good that's it's cracking. Hope it doesn't make problems for the build for the tiny house moving over there. Hope it works out

[@scootter5922]

I am very sorry this happened to you two. Unfortunately I would have to say, have it completely ripped out and redone. I am speaking from the heart as well as from past experience. 18 yrs ago I had a very large in ground swimming pool built buy a pretty reputable pool building company. The sub contractor that pored the concrete decking around the pool did the exact same thing (concrete mix to wet) and at that time, I was talked in to settling for them just grinding it way down and redoing the surface. Well?.. The pool was finished and... It did look good for a few months.. but soon cracks and broken concrete started gradually appearing everywhere and 1 yr lader I began to absolutely realize just how big of a mistake me settling for the grinding/re-serface poor idea had been. To make an already long story shorter... Because of that as well as uther underlying issues, I ended up suing the company that built my pool. Happily, I was fortunate enough to recouped every penny that I paid for the entire pool. 3 yrs later, I did end up having to have the decking completely jack hammered out, some of the plumbing repaired and the concrete redone correctly. Now 14 yrs later after having it done right, it still looks brand new. Please guys.. 🙏 have them completely remove that slab and re-poor it correctly. I truly believe that unfortunately if you don't you will regret it most likely only months down the road.

[@Lala-up3ib]

So glad they did you right Jason . Im sorry this happened

[@selfretired3025]

The grinded cement floor may be a blessing in disguise. Don't fret. Glad things are going well. Ride the wave 🏄‍♀️

[@stephenrangel621]

They haven't made it right YET, it's your trust that will be tested. Sorry to see you being tested already. Just know that you will be happy in the end. Peace from California

[@malcolmgruschow9347]

Nothing is right until it is. At the moment it's just a work in progress. Let's hope it's sorted soon as the companies seemed happy to accept this until they were forced to confront it. Not overly professional.

[@tiggercares]

From my understanding if the Cement is too wet it has a higher potential for flaking and cracking.

[@alexgoebel961]

I knew it looked too wet and there should of been a gravel base clay shifts

[@deebounce737]

Blaming the government! Sad, just bad work.

[@robertwalker9638]

The concrete crew should have refused the load, plain and simple.