Did the FBI Hide the Truth? | Dennis Martin Part II

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@jerichohill487
@jerichohill487 3 ай бұрын
Child goes missing in the Great Smokey mountains. Psychic " I see the child on a mountain. It's great and covered in smoke. That'll be a thousand dollars."
@misskate3815
@misskate3815 3 ай бұрын
IMO, most psychics, and I’m saying this as someone who gets called on for spiritual nonsense a lot(it’s your wiring, your wiring is shot), are more motivated by narcissism and genuine belief in their “visions” than money.
@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts
@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts 3 ай бұрын
"If I go up to Asia minor to fight against the Persians, will I be victorious?" "If you fight against the Persians a great empire will be destroyed." And this from the most famous and respected psychic in the world at the time.
@jerichohill487
@jerichohill487 3 ай бұрын
@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts yeah, didn't say who's empire
@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts
@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts 3 ай бұрын
@@jerichohill487 Moreover, the Athenians later asked Delphi whether they would win against the Persians at sea, only to be given two contradictory answers, basically "No, lol, you're done for." And "You'll lose unless you trust in your wooden walls, in which case you might lose, might win, idk." That Oracle had a real gift for useing words without saying anything. Btw, I love your profile pic, may I ask, where's it from?
@jerichohill487
@jerichohill487 3 ай бұрын
@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts I can't remember where I found it. It's the Templar motto "in hoc signo vinces," which, according to legend, is what GOD told Constantine . "Under this sugn, conquer. " I'm not sure how historical the seal is, but I thought it was cool. Just Google Templar crest
@LilyTheGlitch
@LilyTheGlitch 3 ай бұрын
As a non-native English speaker who always listens to these cases without any visuals or subtitles, I am deeply embarrassed to say I have just for the first time learned that it's FOIA request (freedom of information act) and NOT voyeur request... Uh, anyway...
@badmanskill1112
@badmanskill1112 3 ай бұрын
Let's hope it wasn't a voyeur request. 😂
@katethoene2863
@katethoene2863 3 ай бұрын
@LilyTheGlitch: lol you are so funny! 😂 I am a native English speaker and have made similar mistakes! You are adorable! 43:46
@dave-d-grunt
@dave-d-grunt 3 ай бұрын
Thanks. Gave me a big smile
@maryeckel9682
@maryeckel9682 3 ай бұрын
I'm laughing with you, not at you 😅
@LilyTheGlitch
@LilyTheGlitch 3 ай бұрын
@@maryeckel9682 truly, either is fine 😂 there was very little critical thinking involved in that conclusion
@carlacook5181
@carlacook5181 3 ай бұрын
I grew up in this area, there are caves and holes all over the place, abandoned wells, etc, I was 11 when Dennis Martin disappeared and remember it vividly, since I have grown up and thought about this, I believe that he fell into one of these caves or holes, it doesn’t take much time for leaves and overgrowth to cover a particular area, his body is still there covered in feet of dirt and leaves that have accumulated over the many years since he disappeared.
@arabellabaldwin7764
@arabellabaldwin7764 3 ай бұрын
That makes more sense than any other theory about Dennis' disappearance. There is a photo, supposedly showing the last place he was seen, and it is a field with trees, shrubs, brush, and open space. If Dennis tripped and fell, he would have rolled downhill, but in view of the rest of the family, (IF the photo is correct which may be a big "IF"). It is hard to understand how he could have gotten lost, as his family should have been in view, especially as they started searching for him within minutes. But falling into an old well, cavern, or fissure in the ground would explain his disappearance, and - if he was knocked unconscious by the fall - why he didn't hear searchers calling for him.
@davemccage7918
@davemccage7918 3 ай бұрын
I’m I the only one that oddly wants to go missing in the woods? Seems like a good time!
@robonator2945
@robonator2945 3 ай бұрын
I really feel like you'd have to fall down an incredibly deep hole incredibly carefully to actually not be found with any sort of vaguely timely response. (when your approximate location is known) Even if we ignore sniffer dogs that should be able to find the body easily unless the hole is unfathomably deep, you'd also have to avoid crushing, breaking, or otherwise disturbing vegetation and such nearby which would both uncover the hole *_and_* lead people to it. Combine that with the fact that his general area would be known and a response started timely enough that the body wouldn't have been completely decayed/covered and any foliage distruption wouldn't have regrown and it's really hard to just write all of it off as just "he fell into a hole" as if it explains things. Is it *_possible?_* Yes, but even so those are some pretty major caveats. Falling into a hole definitely can make someone go missing, but generally that's the case when their location is unknown, there is no timely response, etc. When it's recent and the area you're working in is already fairly narrow though it'd have to be an incredibly unlucky hole for that to happen.
@carlacook5181
@carlacook5181 3 ай бұрын
@@robonator2945 the hole wouldn’t necessarily have to be deep, remember that he was a small child, if he had fallen and broken a leg, his back or neck, really any hole no matter how deep would have done it, like I said I grew up in this area and I know what it is like, he could even have crawled under a rock ledge, a snake could have bitten him, really I guess anything could have happened, I know he was scared at the end, those mountains get dark before the sun goes down .
@JohnDoe-qz1ql
@JohnDoe-qz1ql 3 ай бұрын
I've often thought ideas of the like. The thing is that other 411 cases aren't so easily explainable...
@beccalami4967
@beccalami4967 3 ай бұрын
23:49 “I don’t trust the FBI as far as I can throw the corpse of J. Edger Hoover.” - Aiden Mattis Words to live by.
@sleepyhollow783
@sleepyhollow783 3 ай бұрын
Today more than ever.
@ligmasack9038
@ligmasack9038 3 ай бұрын
If he was in Drag then you might get a little extra distance. lol
@Iightbeing
@Iightbeing 3 ай бұрын
Pretty weird to “live by” those words.
@kellyblack4897
@kellyblack4897 3 ай бұрын
@@Iightbeingonly weird if you’re an a sheep 🐑
@Jay-n262
@Jay-n262 3 ай бұрын
Odd was an understatement for Hoover.
@theonionqueen3519
@theonionqueen3519 3 ай бұрын
The integrity of this channel is so soothing and inspiring to me. The fact that honest journalism still exists in this world makes me so happy.
@jimnicholas7334
@jimnicholas7334 4 ай бұрын
I like how this implies the video is up and ready to go, and they're not frantically researching and writing and shooting in the last minute like I did in college, lol
@eddieburris675
@eddieburris675 3 ай бұрын
You had me at “did Bigfoot kidnap this child”
@samkyling
@samkyling 3 ай бұрын
Bro looks like he’s been putting a lot of work into himself. You deserve what ever success you find
@MarthaAccettullo
@MarthaAccettullo 3 ай бұрын
Love him and his super channel
@enthiegavoir5955
@enthiegavoir5955 3 ай бұрын
You know, having never read Missing 411 I was kind of skeptical of "guys he's implying it's Bigfoot all the time" but finally hearing "there was a very dark looking person that got mistaken for a bear!" Is way too blatant.
@Cocc0nuttt0
@Cocc0nuttt0 3 ай бұрын
It's how witnesses describe me when I rob my local gas station without shaving
@Man_Emperor_of_Mankind
@Man_Emperor_of_Mankind 3 ай бұрын
There are some cases where he doesn't imply Bigfoot... but in those cases it's portals or feral humans lol
@MrSirlulzalot
@MrSirlulzalot 3 ай бұрын
Blatant = cray!? Word. ❤😂
@derekmcmanus8615
@derekmcmanus8615 3 ай бұрын
David Pallides isn't saying it was Bigfoot but it was Bigfoot or possibly Aliens...
@deepwaters3335
@deepwaters3335 3 ай бұрын
Living in the NC App Mountains, I have watched and read many articles' on Dennis Martin.. Never heard it described as a dark man. Always heard it as a scruffy man possibly dressed in furs. Mr. Keys' children saw the man first and said "oh look dad, a bear". Mr. Keys said no that is a man not a bear.
@Elliot226
@Elliot226 3 ай бұрын
In case others like me were waiting for an update about their friend/someone close to the podcast who went missing last month, he has been found! He's back with his family now, he was found several days after he was reported missing. Very glad he's safe now, just was at a loss we didn't get an update here about it (not sure if they did elsewhere)
@TheLoreLodge
@TheLoreLodge 3 ай бұрын
I genuinely thought we gave an update on it
@robynwilde
@robynwilde 3 ай бұрын
If you did, Aiden, I missed it too. But I was following the news and praying anyway so I found out right away. 😅
@Elliot226
@Elliot226 3 ай бұрын
@@TheLoreLodge so sorry if you did! I just had been doing my best to keep up to date on videos here and hadn't heard anything. Got the urge to check up and saw the news article and wanted to share. Double checked the text posts on YT before commenting and didn't see an update, so wanted to share
@TheLoreLodge
@TheLoreLodge 3 ай бұрын
@@Elliot226 no worries at all, I’m glad you checked!
@philtkaswahl2124
@philtkaswahl2124 3 ай бұрын
"commit self-delete" Man, in YT's boneheaded quest to scrub the words in their vids and comments under threat of strikes and deletion, it just makes the person having to say those words sound like they're trivializing something serious. Good job, YT.[/s]
@FLBuckeye
@FLBuckeye 3 ай бұрын
Take it a level farther, it is Google. Take it another step it is Alphabet. Nefarious intentions indeed.
@darthpunk3510
@darthpunk3510 3 ай бұрын
​@@FLBuckeyetake it another step and it's all because a bunch of pussified libs can't handle certain words without being triggered and big tech caters to them....
@Wote89
@Wote89 3 ай бұрын
@@FLBuckeye I'd say it's less "nefarious" and more just "corporate advertisers are a bunch of weenies afraid of pearl-clutchers making a scene."
@dlboo9915
@dlboo9915 2 ай бұрын
@@Wote89yeah no considering the fbi are trying to crack down on the keys to the internet that are currently being hold by people who wanna keep the internet how it is rn
@manuelacosta9463
@manuelacosta9463 3 ай бұрын
You never know what's out there in the woods. Be it bigfoot, feral people or even natural dangers like cliffs or abandoned mine shafts. Can't imagine the pain the family went through.
@ThatGuy182545
@ThatGuy182545 3 ай бұрын
I see no problem with believing in Bigfoot. I personally don’t, but I don’t think less of people who do. I think it’s pretty stupid to believe that Bigfoot, who is smart enough that has managed to remain largely undocumented for centuries, even in the face of portable cameras, and phones that can record stills, full video and audio, and yet he’s so stupid that he comes out of the woods and risks abducting some random kid with other people a short distance away.
@PhoenicopterusR
@PhoenicopterusR 3 ай бұрын
we have a pretty decent knowledge on what's out there in the woods, to be fair.
@ednareiman4554
@ednareiman4554 2 ай бұрын
R they part of the issue?
@MissMentats
@MissMentats 3 ай бұрын
Oh I’m so happy there’s a livestream countdown now. 2 minutes of silence has been pretty hard to get through
@DogmadawgMAMR
@DogmadawgMAMR 3 ай бұрын
I love your name ❤
@pablowentscobar
@pablowentscobar 3 ай бұрын
The plot twist is Dennis Martin kidnapped bigfoot, and then disappeared.
@CyberVP
@CyberVP 3 ай бұрын
I love how a little child kidnapped a big child thing
@ThatGuy182545
@ThatGuy182545 3 ай бұрын
It turns out that the only part of Bigfoot that is actually big is the feet.
@IanCottrell-xo5rg
@IanCottrell-xo5rg 3 ай бұрын
We’re all saying find Dennis Martin, but MAYBE we should be holding him accountable for no one being able to find Bigfoot.
@WhiteSandsMbuna
@WhiteSandsMbuna 3 ай бұрын
In the 90s a psychic named gretchin gave a reading for a girl that went missing in illinois. She said she saw trees by a creek with corn around them and a grain bin down the road. Thats about everywhere in that state.
@scockery
@scockery 3 ай бұрын
But where was his beard?
@mapledrivesthings
@mapledrivesthings 4 ай бұрын
Ok youtube. I've asked you to notify me, and I've commented my interest. Will the notifs work now? Still probably not but here's trying
@cherylcampbell9369
@cherylcampbell9369 3 ай бұрын
I, too, was not receiving the requested notification. I had to go into my phone settings, search for KZbin, and made sure the notification setting was switched on, which it had not been. That may help.
@Cocc0nuttt0
@Cocc0nuttt0 3 ай бұрын
no, but it will subscribe you to a crypto channel instead. you're welcome. why aren't you happy?
@mapledrivesthings
@mapledrivesthings 3 ай бұрын
Update: no it still didn't lmaoo
@ThrowAway-ji1cf
@ThrowAway-ji1cf 3 ай бұрын
@@Cocc0nuttt0 wonderful, i can tell them to unalive themselves and go back to watching something useful
@cookingforsingles
@cookingforsingles 3 ай бұрын
Try unsubscribing then resubscribing and select all notifications.
@carollow3416
@carollow3416 2 ай бұрын
Just watched both parts, and learned so much more than was ever talked about here. My childhood best friend is Dennis Martin's cousin, her grandfather was one of the uncles there that day. We have so many questions now. Thanks for doing what you do!
@taka-9038
@taka-9038 3 ай бұрын
Foul air? Some caves have high concentrations of carbon dioxide and very low levels of oxygen even at the entrance. If a child walked into one these caves to seek shelter he could’ve passed within minutes and no sense of danger
@FlorianMark
@FlorianMark 3 ай бұрын
You hear a kid scream help and don't investigate? Then you saw there was a kid missing and one week later you think this could be important? That is really sus.
@PrismaticTentacle
@PrismaticTentacle 3 ай бұрын
Right? If I hear something crying, shouting etc. I go looking because it could be something/one in trouble. It's so frustrating to think that someone heard something and did nothing.
@victory8928
@victory8928 3 ай бұрын
He didn’t help cause he didn’t know where the boy was and it sounded far off. Mr Keys didn’t want to get lost and he might have assumed that it was just something that was already being handled after all. How could no one else hear that scream?
@n00bist723
@n00bist723 3 ай бұрын
@@PrismaticTentacle You are a good person and an honest soul but I hope you're never in the land down under you're gonna disappear chasing a lyrebird into the bush trying to help an echo. Also be careful with your sound identification even here in the states mountain lions, cougars, foxes, and barn owls are known to mistakenly be identified as distressed women and children. Not saying not to be a good person just saying to know what you're running to help.
@pillbugm8914
@pillbugm8914 3 ай бұрын
Its really not surprising that he didn't investigate. A lot of times people aren't completely sure of themselves and prefer to mind their own business. It makes sense that after he was in a relatively safe environment he considered telling someone about this. What is sus is the fact that he didn't go to the police but the media
@xKinjax
@xKinjax 3 ай бұрын
I don't think he heard a child scream or yell for help, that's not what he initially told the papers and i can't see a scenario where someone is remembering something better 40 years later than right after it happened. He heard something that sounded like a pained scream very far off. It could have been anything. Have you guys heard the kind of weird noises mountain lions can make? Sometimes it literally sounds like a woman getting assaulted or a child screaming. He had his family with him. Why would he go towards a possible source of danger when he has children with him? Also the scream did not come from the direction of the man he saw. Both him and his daughter were very adamant on that point.
@PrismaticTentacle
@PrismaticTentacle 3 ай бұрын
The mood lighting and the dramatic reading just makes me feel like you could start an asmr reading channel.
@BlankChaz
@BlankChaz 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, Yootoob recommends R-rated movies in the sidebar, but don't let any real-person-channel (non-inc.) mention self-deletion, deletion of another, circulatory fluid, etc. etc. etc.
@badmanskill1112
@badmanskill1112 3 ай бұрын
That is weird. Corps run the show. They can do no wrong I guess.
@FLBuckeye
@FLBuckeye 3 ай бұрын
In life, the answer to most questions is follow the $$$.
@darthpunk3510
@darthpunk3510 3 ай бұрын
​@@FLBuckeyeor in 2024 follow the woke influence 🙄
@jenniferwaite3219
@jenniferwaite3219 3 ай бұрын
They also endlessly add footnotes to anything vaguely referring to Covid. We lived it. we know what it is/isn't.
@ivorypayton
@ivorypayton 4 ай бұрын
4 days is crazy
@The.prophet.of.truth.
@The.prophet.of.truth. 3 ай бұрын
Yo what in the time warp.
@PrismaticTentacle
@PrismaticTentacle 3 ай бұрын
You wrote this four days ago. And this makes me happy.
@nikkireigns
@nikkireigns 3 ай бұрын
When am I?
@JorgensenTheCrow
@JorgensenTheCrow 3 ай бұрын
@@nikkireigns now sir
@ChadOfAllChads
@ChadOfAllChads 3 ай бұрын
​@@The.prophet.of.truth.It was probably a members first video then he commented lol
@crossedrifles11b
@crossedrifles11b 3 ай бұрын
Rest in peace, brave little Dennis. You are still loved dearly and are not forgotten. I pray you’re with your loved ones and have found the joy you deserve. I myself hope to meet you someday. Until then, Dennis.
@tarafinley2651
@tarafinley2651 4 ай бұрын
Aidan is truly one of my favorite content creators. I’m always happy to see his videos on my timeline!
@TeganWelsch-Rainek
@TeganWelsch-Rainek 3 ай бұрын
Same here along with Missing Enigma. Do you have any other favorite channels you would recommend?
@tarafinley2651
@tarafinley2651 3 ай бұрын
@@TeganWelsch-Rainek yes! Missing Enigma is also one of my go-to’s! Mile Higher with Kendall Ray is a great channel too ☺️ she’s very passionate and donates a lot.
@Mike-O-Sullivan
@Mike-O-Sullivan 3 ай бұрын
@@TeganWelsch-Rainek 'Scary Interesting' is a wicked good channel too. I think Aidan mentioned it at some point.
@TeganWelsch-Rainek
@TeganWelsch-Rainek 3 ай бұрын
@@Mike-O-Sullivan I really appreciate it. I’ll check it out. I’m getting sick of watching videos twice.
@TeganWelsch-Rainek
@TeganWelsch-Rainek 3 ай бұрын
@@tarafinley2651 Last year I used to religiously watch her stuff when new content came out.
@DanielSAraujo98
@DanielSAraujo98 3 ай бұрын
At 1:56 and you said sorry and corrected yourself I realized how we don’t see these at all, everything gets cut and edited, I really appreciated this more natural approach
@thebernice6062
@thebernice6062 3 ай бұрын
The Green Berets involvement strikes me as the kind of nonsense a new commander would come up with as a way to combine a public affairs stunt and a training exercise. Green Berets have a skillset that is insular to themselves and that is usually classified so their tactics (and identities) can't be studied by adversaries. So, it makes sense that they would want to search in an area with no press. Their comm gear also would not be compatible with any other agency, it would operate on totally different frequencies (it was probably encrypted too). Coordinating comms is notoriously difficult even inside the military, there's no chance they could talk with civilian searchers at the time unless they were given radios by the searchers. I think it was well intentioned, but probably unhelpful (possibly even a hinderance) to have the Green Berets involved. The only SOF unit I would want assisting in a civilian SAR op would be USAF PJs, SAR is their mission and they are trained to work well with others.
@standingwatchinarizona
@standingwatchinarizona 3 ай бұрын
Nah. Green Berets just don't go off on search rescues for kids who go missing . Otherwise they would never be at base. Something going on there. And it had nothing to do with training. Their deployment would require more than a unit commander to approve such a mission.
@sandor139
@sandor139 Ай бұрын
But Dennis Martin was eaten and bones was found, so they FAILED the task with Sasquatch
@kawaiicake8038
@kawaiicake8038 3 ай бұрын
Bro how did I watch the first, go to this by description, and it’s an hour ago?? Let’s go. I really love how you talk interesting and information wise enough the keep me entertained while doing other things, always a go to when eating or craft
@vihaze6725
@vihaze6725 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for clarifying things for us non-Americans! It makes the story easier to follow.
@Calebgoblin
@Calebgoblin 3 ай бұрын
Your capacity to have a balanced, nuanced and open-minded opinion of somebody (David Paulides) is truly one of the seven great wonders of youtube)
@elisetanner3089
@elisetanner3089 3 ай бұрын
@@Calebgoblin several times, Aidan can't help himself but to continously criticize Dennis Paulides. A half a dozen times if not more, to the point it's starting to seem like Aidan is constantly ripping on him. I love the Fact that Aidan is a such a smart-ass, young and C o c k y. Someone needs to inform him while it is his opinion, he is starting to become irritating,
@elisetanner3089
@elisetanner3089 3 ай бұрын
Half a dozen times throughout Aidan's videos, ah
@Calebgoblin
@Calebgoblin 3 ай бұрын
@@elisetanner3089 is criticizing someone as well as citing them a bad thing in your opinion?
@meryncaris5352
@meryncaris5352 3 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@elisetanner3089agree, he can be pretty arrogant and has a real holier-than-thou attitude about Paulides definitely gets kind of annoying
@elisetanner3089
@elisetanner3089 3 ай бұрын
@@Calebgoblin no I truly believe that constructive criticism can be valuable, again, no one is perfect. I think i am far too old , 58 yes. TO be on this forum. I have always really been of the belief that each and every you tube channel re; this subject , paranormal, UFO etc. Offers up their own technique, etc. But they also seem to all be heading in a direction of similar wish, AND THAT IS TO FIND OUT WHY WE ARE BEING LIED TO.
@Mk-ly9re
@Mk-ly9re 3 ай бұрын
This video is new so I have a better chance of being seen. Simply put I live in Utah and my family lives around here and has for a while. Some of them are active in the search and rescue around here and have been for many years. My question to you is, are there any cases in my area and if so how can I help get information if you need it? If you see this great, but I am at the mercy of my fellow commenters
@spiritualwarfareforyoursou5665
@spiritualwarfareforyoursou5665 2 ай бұрын
He has a video of 5 missing people - one of which was a Boy Scout missing in the Uintah mountains in the early 2000s. Sad story - the kid was 12.
@jalifritz8033
@jalifritz8033 Ай бұрын
Dennis’ case always reminds me of the case of Inga Gehricke a little girl that went missing in a wooden area in Germany while her family were having a barbecue. Despite hundreds of people including the military searching for her she was never found.
@chrismsmalley2626
@chrismsmalley2626 3 ай бұрын
I used to have a SIL that worked in the Natl Park Service, she started in the Smokey Mts. I guess that is the training zone to put new Rangers through the "tests", during her time there she was interviewed by several men who weren't Park Services. She finally passed and got moved to her dream park in Washington State, she goes out and stays in watchtower for weeks, alone. I asked her if she had seen anything weird and she quickly replied, " nope, not at all." I asked her why so many people disappear in National Parks? She said, " that's all made up, it's not nearly that high a number." This was an Xmas party at my In Laws. When it was deep into the night I helped her out to her truck with presents, frozen cookies, etc. When she got in and started up she leaned over and said...." those missing people are called 'acceptable losses'... and it's WAY higher a number than you could imagine." I never got postcards after that year. My ex says her sister is fine, talks to her all the time on FB. But THAT is creepy. Acceptable Losses....
@ZenobiaDecrespin
@ZenobiaDecrespin 3 ай бұрын
Ive been watching your videos all day. Im here for the sarcasm, wit,mockery,snark everything else is just a cherry on the top of your genius. Much respect
@QuantumStellar
@QuantumStellar 3 ай бұрын
We have some groups that live in the wilderness 1.) Criminal's avoiding law enforcement 2.) Ex military that drop out 3.) off grid people that don't pay rent 4.) Psycho's 5.) Child Taker's 6.) Killer's. 7.) "Plant" Grower's both cartel and domestic.... Hunting people is much easier when they come to you, like hikers, lost children, older people, couples, and even the "first" and "last" hiker in every large group. When the wind is blowing through the tree's, you can't even hear a scream. Bear and mountain lion attacks are mixed in as well. Human's are more dangerous than "big foot" or any forest animal, believe that.
@MarthaAccettullo
@MarthaAccettullo 3 ай бұрын
Totally agree with your last sentence
@CraigBaughan-mg3hf
@CraigBaughan-mg3hf 3 ай бұрын
Park Superintendent was at Glacier Park two years earlier. Lead Agent Jim Rikes was following an adult felon and two minors who were driving their vans over Park trails, and he refused to believe it was a bear until the day he died with Stage 4 cancer.. Rescue squads opened a gorilla den then requested help from the Army. The juvenile minor was arrested on a firearms charge. There were on going classes for search volunteers at the Smoky Mountain Institute and Fontana Village.
@michaelhowell2326
@michaelhowell2326 3 ай бұрын
There are certainly people that live off the grid in the Appalachian Mountains, but I've lived here almost my whole life. I have hiked and hunted Western NC,Eastern Tennessee and Virginia. I've never seen any "wild" people and the only stories of any were from strange people who were themselves the wildest thing out there. Terrible things happen but it isn't strange.
@CaptainRex549
@CaptainRex549 3 ай бұрын
I was watching Wendigoon’s video on this topic, just cause and then I see this on my subscriptions tab in youtube, I think it’s a sign. 😂
@austin_bennett
@austin_bennett 3 ай бұрын
It's definitely a sign, you'll love the channel
@jasonanalco542
@jasonanalco542 3 ай бұрын
Not to invite speculation in the Special Forces or imply involvement but only to add a little credit to the "hairy man" part of the story. Ghillie suits were first used in the US military during the Vietnam war. If you want a man to look hairy or blend with the surrounding foliage, ghillie suits. Just saying
@ItsDobbie
@ItsDobbie 3 ай бұрын
Sooo… I’m thinking what happened was Dennis was kidnapped by someone when he traveled northwest to try and play a trick on the adults that he came with and what Mr. Key heard was indeed Dennis screaming and the man he likely saw was obviously the one who had kidnapped him. The man then rushed to the car and drove away after realizing he had been seen and likely returned to the area to bury Dennis, which is exactly what the Ginseng poacher found when he claimed he found child’s remains. And the reason he waited 13 years to say anything to the National Park ranger about it was because… he was a criminal.
@stepheniedarnielle2988
@stepheniedarnielle2988 3 ай бұрын
I’m a newish subscriber and have been making my way through eps chronologically and I mean no offense or creepiness but you look so increasingly like, strong and healthy. Not to say you weren’t before but damn man, you’re looking good.
@badmanskill1112
@badmanskill1112 3 ай бұрын
Easy Steph he's married... 😂 I don't actually know if that's true.
@stepheniedarnielle2988
@stepheniedarnielle2988 3 ай бұрын
@@badmanskill1112 lol I play for the other team, but can’t not appreciate my man here
@badmanskill1112
@badmanskill1112 3 ай бұрын
@@stepheniedarnielle2988 He's a stud for sure. 👍
@crittermama
@crittermama 3 ай бұрын
Check out South Force 10. He's fine a few videos on this topic. He's from the area and says his family was part of the hunt for Dennis Martin.
@TheWannabeexpert
@TheWannabeexpert 3 ай бұрын
The way you went through the Key story this time and where they should have been opposed to where they said they was makes me want to question them more.
@sarahwarnock2707
@sarahwarnock2707 2 ай бұрын
The temptation to just pack a bag with food, water, & socks, and just walk into the woods that for so long have called my name✨️
@TeganWelsch-Rainek
@TeganWelsch-Rainek 3 ай бұрын
I would love to see a podcast with you and missing enigma discussing your opinions and theories on the case.
@TheLoreLodge
@TheLoreLodge 3 ай бұрын
We can certainly set that up!
@sisseholm4869
@sisseholm4869 4 ай бұрын
Bro im definitely gonna forget about this video when it's getting pushed down in my feed and i gotta wait half a week💀❤️
@TheLoreLodge
@TheLoreLodge 3 ай бұрын
Hey it’s here now tho
@landonsillyman3996
@landonsillyman3996 3 ай бұрын
@@TheLoreLodgebless up, have a fun safe trip to alaska man!
@sisseholm4869
@sisseholm4869 3 ай бұрын
@@TheLoreLodge Holy shit thank u! I just ended a 10 hour workday and have 40 minutes home. Perfect timing to watch it
@jerichohill487
@jerichohill487 3 ай бұрын
Ok, I gotta make a serious comment. Why would anything involving a missing person, not a murder, not a kidnapping, be redacted? And for entire sections to be so redacted that it makes them useless makes even less since. You don't need bjgface or aliens, the CIA or Freemasons to make this thing weird.
@MattPotter15
@MattPotter15 3 ай бұрын
The transition cut to black screen was my favorite part of the video. Correction, the sex maniac is my favorite part! Lol😂
@mht5875
@mht5875 3 ай бұрын
The Smokey Mountains has a LOT of heavy underbrush - if Dennis by some chance fell off the mountain into that underbrush, well, good luck in finding him. The poor kid. :(
@drascalicus5187
@drascalicus5187 3 ай бұрын
The FBI part sounds like shady things were being investigated or allowed to happen that they wanted no one else to know about.
@velvetmoth813
@velvetmoth813 3 ай бұрын
I'm sure this is coming but im halfway through and i just cant belive DP has never heard that bears sometimes stand or even walk on their hind legs. And by sometimes i mean like, they reach up for stuff in trees daily, they scratch their backs on trees, they stand up to look over stuff.... like that is not unusual at all to see them in that position.
@elisetanner3089
@elisetanner3089 3 ай бұрын
David Paulides is well aware the a bear is able to momentarily stand on 2 legs, take a few steps. As well as STEVE ISADAHL-HOW TO HUNT, people send in their experiences with Bigfoot. DAVID AND STEVE are good friends, STEVE has actually harvested a few bears that came after him. So for the B.S. and lack of reporting the truth, Aidan I would have so much more respect for you if you didn't constantly spread this $hit. I know you are witty, dry and a pompous smarta$$, you are young and have much to learn.
@turtlesonparade2977
@turtlesonparade2977 3 ай бұрын
This case is super convoluted. It's not likely we'll ever find out what happened to little Dennis. Super sad.
@ThatGuy182545
@ThatGuy182545 3 ай бұрын
“You can’t just cut to black in the middle of a sent….” Well shit. 🤣
@RonaldColeman-ef2rc
@RonaldColeman-ef2rc Ай бұрын
I am always surprised by the inaccuracy of the newspapers.They never vet their sources.
@dangerclose6303
@dangerclose6303 3 ай бұрын
I’d say there is a higher chance of the Smiley Face killer being responsible for this disappearance than bigfoot is.
@velvetmoth813
@velvetmoth813 3 ай бұрын
I honestly wouldnt be surprised by a ranger of the time period being like "oh yeah you can totally see a bear over here." The 60s is when all those pics of ppl feeding the bears in Yellowstone are from.
@normodb
@normodb 3 ай бұрын
I love how this dude often throws shade at David P, but brings him up almost every video.
@elisetanner3089
@elisetanner3089 3 ай бұрын
@@normodb I know!!!! Speaks volumes regarding Aidans lack. Poor guy. He young, and ...
@07foxmulder
@07foxmulder 3 ай бұрын
Are people still saying “throws shade?”
@elisetanner3089
@elisetanner3089 3 ай бұрын
@@07foxmulder yes I know, far too old to be on here. 58 . I didn't say it, but whatever.
@Phrenicglitter_Itsallinmyhead
@Phrenicglitter_Itsallinmyhead 3 ай бұрын
Agree! Aiden needs to grow up and rely on his videos worthiness verses the constant disrespect voiced on paulides. Maybe he doesn’t think his videos would be any good without the constant barrage of name dropping
@Phrenicglitter_Itsallinmyhead
@Phrenicglitter_Itsallinmyhead 3 ай бұрын
Im starting to think the name dropping brings up his KZbin algorithms 🤔😵‍💫
@PRS2009
@PRS2009 3 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@trikepilot101
@trikepilot101 3 ай бұрын
I know this sounds farfetched but the Green Berets were designed as a wilderness guerilla unit. I wonder if one of their own became a "wild man" in the park and someone decided they would know best how to catch them.
@betsyadams9670
@betsyadams9670 3 ай бұрын
That is what I think also. That would explain the military and fbi.
@Princess_Celestia_
@Princess_Celestia_ 3 ай бұрын
​@@betsyadams9670 They where already in the area training and their CO was friends with the man in charge of the search. He called up their CO and called in a favor. The CO only agreed because they where already in the area on a training exercise and they could use this opportunity for a more realistic training scenario. The Green Berets preform search and rescue missions for downed pilots behind enemy lines, using Dinnis as a stand-in for the downed pilot and the civi search groups as stand-ins for enemy soldiers looking for the pilot they just shot down makes for good training. It can also then be used as a publicity stunt to help increase recruitment, especially if they found him. Additionally, the rescue plan had Dinnis been found, called for Green Berets to fly into his location and extract him in an airlift by helicopter as that was the most effective way to get him to medical treatment should he be found alive.
@oliviamiller9267
@oliviamiller9267 3 ай бұрын
The Big Picture confusion looks deliberate and I’m sure you know that already.
@joshcantrell8397
@joshcantrell8397 3 ай бұрын
Missing enigma has a great video on the Martin case as well.
@TheLoreLodge
@TheLoreLodge 3 ай бұрын
He has several great ones regarding this case. We were super lucky to have him come in for part one.
@joshcantrell8397
@joshcantrell8397 3 ай бұрын
@@TheLoreLodge I feel like no one takes into consideration the possibility that Dennis maybe just wanted to take a break from life and live off the grid…
@TheLoreLodge
@TheLoreLodge 3 ай бұрын
@@joshcantrell8397 my brother in Christ he was seven years old
@krgid65
@krgid65 3 ай бұрын
Not saying he’s not good, but he’s creepy. Something about him, I can’t watch lol
@poolhalljunkie9
@poolhalljunkie9 3 ай бұрын
Josh. 😂😂😂😂😂
@falconsfamily6402
@falconsfamily6402 3 ай бұрын
I know everyone says this but I literally do an air fist pump when I see a new video up. I just can't get enough of the Incredible research and dry delivery.
@ianramage9777
@ianramage9777 4 ай бұрын
I think Wendigoon got their account info and did this it feels like somethin friends would do
@TheLoreLodge
@TheLoreLodge 4 ай бұрын
Oh no we just shot two videos in one week
@ianramage9777
@ianramage9777 4 ай бұрын
@@TheLoreLodge I stand corrected nut I could still see Isaiah doing this
@13donstalos
@13donstalos 3 ай бұрын
Drink, wear, follow, consume, support... so much Lodge.
@louie480
@louie480 3 ай бұрын
Prayers out to those missing people and families. That’s super sad and unfortunate. Please keep the MISSING 411 Videos coming 💯👍 !
@Ritter09ful
@Ritter09ful 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for this interesting content! I am from Germany and I try to approve my english with this chanel!
@gwenintexas4080
@gwenintexas4080 3 ай бұрын
My name is Gwen and I improve this message.
@ThatGuy182545
@ThatGuy182545 3 ай бұрын
The Green Berets are easily explained. Green Berets train for a mission called CSAR. Combat Search and Rescue. Looking for lost military personnel in combat environments, like pilots who have been shot down. CSAR missions involve searching an area under control of the enemy while avoiding contact with the enemy. This would have been an opportunity for them to train this mission while assisting in the search for Dennis, using the other search parties as representatives of an enemy force and evading them.
@JohnDoe-qz1ql
@JohnDoe-qz1ql 3 ай бұрын
Ah, so it's a thing.... NO, it Isn't a thing. SpecOps looking for a missing kid???🤦
@ThatGuy182545
@ThatGuy182545 3 ай бұрын
@@JohnDoe-qz1ql If they were training nearby already (which is likely) they might have been rerouted.
@robertnunneley100
@robertnunneley100 3 ай бұрын
So you're telling me the Green berets couldn't find a kid?!!
@JohnDoe-qz1ql
@JohnDoe-qz1ql 3 ай бұрын
@@robertnunneley100 It's hard to believe Anyone couldn't find him! Unless he Was taken...
@ThatGuy182545
@ThatGuy182545 3 ай бұрын
@@robertnunneley100 Might not have been there for them to find. I suspect that he either fell into something (a well, a cave, a crevasse, something) or was abducted. He just disappeared too quickly and too completely for anything else. Also the CSAR mission is conducted with the searchers assuming that the people they’re looking for are evading the enemy, but want to be found by friendly forces. Dennis was a small child. He wouldn’t have been following the normal escape and evasion tactics that a lost soldier or downed pilot would.
@sammyjones2965
@sammyjones2965 3 ай бұрын
That dramatic reading. While I was working and listening, I couldn't help but picture Stolas reading it the whole time.
@zhugeliang2214
@zhugeliang2214 3 ай бұрын
Shoutout to missing enigma. The channel that made me understand that missing 411 is full of lies. He does the research most other people won't because the lies are more intriguing than thr truth.
@ethanpeel5415
@ethanpeel5415 3 ай бұрын
Found you guys a few months ago and I’ve avidly followed your vids ever since. Awesome work as always guys
@arerestmeredgt
@arerestmeredgt 3 ай бұрын
Sone say Carter Martin was a relative of Bill Martin, others say there was no relation. Does ANYONE know for sure ?
@nanathekatz
@nanathekatz 29 күн бұрын
I love your content, I only really wish you would put more infos in the editing. Like show maps longer, mark the discussed locations, leave it up when Aiden keeps talking about it etc. Bc as much as I like to hear him talk, it‘s always so much info that I could use the visual reminders pretty much all of the time. As much as I enjoy the lodge set, it really would help to follow along I feel. Maybe move him a bit to the right of the frame and leave a dedicated notes area to his left where you can leave the main points up. Maps and locations of findings etc mainly.
@bigangenbygang
@bigangenbygang 3 ай бұрын
Honestly, the idea that this was a simple case of a kidnapping by a predator is the most likely. His body is probably still out there, undiscovered. Maybe discarded in a cave or under dense brush. Might go with some friends to take a look. I'm not too far. Good excuse to wander the woods for a while.
@redgaming6701
@redgaming6701 3 ай бұрын
Been months ive been watching, surprised I never subbed until now. Good quality stuff. Keep it up.
@RailroadPro
@RailroadPro 3 ай бұрын
Those FOIA documents Paulides and others requested and denied were all released in 2023 about this case by the government. It's all online. Nick from Missing Enigma did an entire video on it last year.
@deerichardz
@deerichardz 3 ай бұрын
You can actually do a FOIA on how many FOIAs Paulides has requested oO It's not many.
@Mach11976
@Mach11976 3 ай бұрын
Y'all do a great job with the details something DP can be hazy about. Thanks
@zealministry1269
@zealministry1269 4 ай бұрын
Very cool that you’re here in Alaska. My son and I love your videos and we’re down on the Kenai Peninsula
@TheLoreLodge
@TheLoreLodge 3 ай бұрын
We will actually be down that way tomorrow!
@zealministry1269
@zealministry1269 3 ай бұрын
@@TheLoreLodge that’s neat :) I hope y’all enjoy your trip
@nah4215
@nah4215 3 ай бұрын
@@TheLoreLodgeI’m in Denali now pimp
@silverhalo14
@silverhalo14 3 ай бұрын
love how you guys are upping your citation game in-video
@phish__food
@phish__food 3 ай бұрын
Too many people, including Paulides, seem to be completely ignorant of the existence of NG SF, and that they commonly provide support and strategic assistance in domestic operations like a search and rescue. 19th/20th SFG have resources and budgets that need to be used and they find the most productive ways of doing so. It's not that deep, NG SF guys aren't tier one super soldiers hunting down child-snatching cryptids like a hollywood movie. They helped out to check a box on their training block and then went back to their normal 9-5's. Too many people just straight up do not understand SOF at all.
@frustrateduser9933
@frustrateduser9933 3 ай бұрын
I can't believe that he thinks their presence is suspicious and an indication that they were up to "black ops tomfoolery." They have to train somewhere.
@r.j.macready3218
@r.j.macready3218 3 ай бұрын
I gotta say, your newfound scrutiny of David bodes well with me. Your channel introduced me to his book, and I was eager to read it, but the more I did the more I found his work a bit lackluster in terms of sources. I was a student at the time, and had a lot of databases available to me, so I would check every source of wahtever book I was studying cause I just love knowin stuff. You'd be surprised how many sources people site aren't entirely credible. Your videos started to dissappoint me, partially because I'm aware how many evangelicles attribute bigfoot to an angel of sorts. Not to say religious affiliation makes me dislike folks, just that I start to scrutinize their work a bit more when they mark certain boxes. When people reference David I get a bit skeptical, so I was very pleased to see that such a big youtuber started to fact check him with such an even hand. I might get shouted down from forum posts a bit less now hahaha
@dbandia
@dbandia 3 ай бұрын
Another stellar example of excellent research, strong logic, and honestly saying you don't know what you don't and cannot know.
@fleb5165
@fleb5165 3 ай бұрын
I have to admit that when you said '' You might notice that 'the angle of a fence' ... (dramatic pause) is not a tree.'' made me laugh a lot. Probably too much but I found that real funny! Thanks for the amazing reports and all the time you spend on these videos!
@austin_bennett
@austin_bennett 3 ай бұрын
My best guess based on the 2 videos is there's an illegal moonshine still within the park rangers know about & possibly took a cut out of. The person who accessed the previously blocked off-road could possibly be a co - conspiriter in the moonshine operation or simply stumbled onto the operation which leaves the whole sighting of the person being either a misdirect or an outright sighting of one of the individuals involved. Why Denis in particular was targeted is curious because if it was moonshiners it's really bold to go after a random kid, unless it was a targeted hit. I don't know enough to further speculate, but illegal moonshineing could be one of the reasons for the car & weird sighting of a person trying to remain hidden
@dangerclose6303
@dangerclose6303 3 ай бұрын
A still working in the Smoky Mountains is like saying “somewhere downtown, someone is selling weed”. It is Very Common both in and out of those mountains. However, most Shiners do not carry firearms. Similar to Burglary the penalties go way up if you carry a firearm. Both Shiners and burglars run, instead of fight. Source: Many in my family have been in the production of illegal alcohol in 3 different states.
@austin_bennett
@austin_bennett 3 ай бұрын
@dangerclose6303 the fact it's common is why I think it's highly likely a moonshiner who at the very least tried to remain hidden, the alternate being a pot grower. It partially explains the FBI involvement because that's kinda been their thing since prohibition. Carrying a firearm likely isn't even required because most woodsman, & I'd imagine moonshiners too, likely carry some kind of knife but realistically we're taking about a kid so as sad as it is to say it doesn't take much physically. I'm still puzzled as to the proximity from his family because if they're not much farther ahead snatching a kid in broad daylight yards away from his family is way too unnecessary of a risk even if they got really close
@Cocc0nuttt0
@Cocc0nuttt0 3 ай бұрын
co-con"spirit"er get it lmao
@austin_bennett
@austin_bennett 3 ай бұрын
@Cocc0nuttt0 it was unintentional, but that is pretty good lol
@dangerclose6303
@dangerclose6303 3 ай бұрын
@@austin_bennett Shiners would be much more likely to just return a boy to his parents. They are all locals. And it would be the ATF called if illegal alcohol was suspected ( by the FBI ). It’s entirely likely that Shiners would have an axe or hatchet handy for wood splitting, but by ‘69 they should be cooking on propane. Now Grow Spots like you mention are much more likely to get violent, as those are usually not run by locals.
@Piecespatpaints
@Piecespatpaints 3 ай бұрын
This is such a great channel. Thanks for all the work you put in.
@deepwaters3335
@deepwaters3335 3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for digging deeper into this matter. The locals know why the Green Beret was there.
@Pedro1136
@Pedro1136 3 ай бұрын
What do the locals know?
@deepwaters3335
@deepwaters3335 3 ай бұрын
@@Pedro1136 I posted the link..
@whatyouknowboutme
@whatyouknowboutme 3 ай бұрын
@@deepwaters3335where
@Pedro1136
@Pedro1136 3 ай бұрын
@@deepwaters3335 I didn’t see it. Never mind
@deepwaters3335
@deepwaters3335 3 ай бұрын
@@Pedro1136 smiles. I have spend many hours studying this case cause I live in these mountains and I can promise you, I only go to very populated places and leave well before Dusk.
@frustrateduser9933
@frustrateduser9933 3 ай бұрын
I find the guy ignoring a young child screaming for help more suspicious than green berets training in a state/national park and then joining the search for a missing child. 🤷
@sebbybuckley9000
@sebbybuckley9000 3 ай бұрын
new Lore Lodge video make my brain go brrrrrr
@tvav69
@tvav69 3 ай бұрын
There was a 411 case where a guy fell into a hidden well and they didn’t find him for years. Before they found him his case was as mysterious as these are. So there are ways to disappear and not ever be found if ur unlucky enough to fall into a hole in the ground. ✌🏻🇺🇸
@angiadcock8196
@angiadcock8196 3 ай бұрын
I agree that Paulides is biased. I don’t think it’s intentional or malicious, at the least I see no evidence of that. It’s just that when you’re hunting for Bigfoot, every noise in the woods sounds like Bigfoot.
@Ryo7_7
@Ryo7_7 3 ай бұрын
Looking forward to hearing some more music from you guys. Great work as always. 🤙
@CatsRidingHorses
@CatsRidingHorses 3 ай бұрын
what if the terrain the green berets were focusing on simply worked best for whatever training objective they were aiming for? eg say they brough an expert on a certain topic in to train them for a certain time period; simultaneously this kid has gone missing, so they look at the nearby terrain and figure they can kill two birds with one stone... I know this is a specific assumption, but I've never once seen a solved "mystery" which didn't have some prosaic outcome like this
@frustrateduser9933
@frustrateduser9933 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, i don't think their involvement is suspicious or indicates nefarious gvt machinations. This wasn't the only time they've helped search for people. I genuinely don't get this line of thought.
@GregPrice-ep2dk
@GregPrice-ep2dk 3 ай бұрын
Have you ever done a show about Henry McCabe? He disappeared without a trace except for a truly frightening last phone message on a friend's answering machine.
@squirrel_oak407
@squirrel_oak407 3 ай бұрын
I’m worried that my children might be feral :(
@clonegeek3317
@clonegeek3317 3 ай бұрын
The thing about this case that really bothers, me is just how quickly Dennis went missing out of his fathers sight. I keep thinking that the family has something to do with the disappearance but I don't think that's possible. Do we have any idea who some of the Green Berets were in the investagtion because I think some should still be alive to answer questions.
@martyblack7245
@martyblack7245 3 ай бұрын
All I know, is it is cool as Hell, to Hear local papers quoted & Little Local Areas named on the Freaking Lore Lodge! As a East Tennessee Native I Love it!!! Keep up the good work Fellas!!!! Show kicks ass!
@happylostsouls3327
@happylostsouls3327 3 ай бұрын
I'm from a very mountainous area of Pennsylvania and During heavy leaf falls you can easily step into a crevice never be seen again
@OkiSmokey
@OkiSmokey 3 ай бұрын
Can I just say I love the “want more lodge?” “Want to wear the lodge?” Stuff, it’s really good branding/promotion, rolls off the tongue nice
@waves1all1day1er1day
@waves1all1day1er1day 3 ай бұрын
The “we can’t cut to black in the middle of a sen-“ part was great. Bravo!
@Houndini
@Houndini 3 ай бұрын
You are learning. David Paulides is only interested in selling books & movies. Facts are not even in his vocabulary.
@jacksonGPT
@jacksonGPT 4 ай бұрын
Wow what a video, I haven't watched yet but already I just know it's gonna be a bangers. Thanks adins
@johnscustomsaws
@johnscustomsaws 3 ай бұрын
The dramatic reading was amazing... You have found your true calling my friend 👏👏👏
@Anyzii
@Anyzii 3 ай бұрын
As someone from that area of Maine I'm so proud of you for pronouncing it Ban-Gore not Banger like they do in Washington. Thank you. Genuinely.
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