Did The Minotaur's Labyrinth Really Exist? | Myth Hunters | Odyssey

[@syracusealumnus79]

For the record, Schliemann did more to demolish what was left of Troy than discover it. His heavy-handed use of TNT during excavations and inarticulate handling of artifacts at the site was a true Greek tragedy.

[@joshuatoms7664]

It's true. And he was also a fraud. But without him, people might not ever have bothered to go looking, thinking it was all just stories.

[@islandplace7235]

had he not taken interest odds are we'd still think these were bedtime stories.

[@fractalfae5418]

'Inarticulate handling of artefacts' is a very polite way to describe his theft of finds 🙂

[@JonDundas10]

Anyone who studied classics knows that Schliemann is a villain

[@jonathanm180]

Without him, no one would have known. They refused to help him. This is what happens when some academics think they know everything.

[@baliyae]

I love Greek mythology, especially the story of Theseus and the Minotaur.

[@jimmynolet3752]

It's all real.

[@mb9326]

The old civilizations used story to verbally record stories of events. They think they found where the Beowulf legend took place. It was a story of a young hero king slaying a monster, but the monster was a butchering king, mangling his subjects. They found a mass grave where the halls would be, bones mangle and damage by axes, and torcher devices.

[@garycastronova7939]

​@@jimmynolet3752no amigo...it's half man, all bullshit.

[@katlynwebb8474]

I know Athena and I would be like PB & chocolate because I love knowledge as much as I love games like Genshin Impact

[@DemocracyOfficer2485]

@@jimmynolet3752no

[@BriarLeaf00]

Hey just a tip when on mobile, when you put a red frame around the thumbnail it looks like a previously viewed video.

[@Ash-rb4lf]

legit I miss so many videos thinking I’ve watched them already

[@CKlegion7272]

Awesome tip. Uhm, how do put a red frame around the thumbnail? Greetings from Netherland

[@cardboardface52]

@@CKlegion7272 The creator is the only one who can do that lol they were just pointing out a flaw in the development that could lead to a decrease in viewership as people might think they’ve already watched it and not even look at the video

[@pinkpugginz]

They took your advice and change the thumbnail I'm watching it a month later

[@patriciawallace-n7k]

Mary Renault's "The King Must Die" about Theseus and the bull dancing was the first of her books I read and the best--it's fantastic for anyone interested in the Cretes and the Minator's labyrinth, written to be spellbinding.

[@squidgert566]

While there is war on education right now (learning a trade isn’t bad at all and I did it before going to engineering to learn more), it is always the wealthy and people with connection being able to spend time on discoveries or writing ground breaking novels for the time. Now is the disclaimer. As frivolous some might think about wasting time and/or resources to find stuff, archeological or otherwise), this is important for all of us to understand and know where all is coming from.

[@Darkstar-se6wc]

The “war on education” is coming from within the academy, from those more dedicated to deconstructing (i.e., destroying) western civilization than transmitting it to the next generation. Then they’re astonished that the public doesn’t want to finance them. 🙄

[@mywifesboyfriend5558]

Money controls all

[@williammills3632]

Thank you for all the Mythhunters uploads recently 👏 keep em coming.

[@UATU.]

This was great, thank you

[@jclark2752]

All that peering at seal stones through a loupe makes my dang head hurt! Somebody get the man some damned Clay Already!!!

[@MrVinniboy]

"Odyssey - Ancient History Documentaries" is a great channel, I play "Asassin's creed odyssey" very often, So getting insite into what may be real rather just hearsay/fable is great, Thanks Odyssey

[@DH-zd3de]

That was fabulous ❤

[@veram1803]

Wonderful documentary, thanks for sharing!

[@Ancient_War]

Incorrect. The Minotaur (real name Asterius) was the son of Pasiphaë, Minos’s wife, not Minos’s. Pasiphaë developed an unnatural lust for a pure white bull that was to be a sacrifice to Poseidon. After having sex with the sacred bull, as punishment she gave birth to an infant that was half-man, half-bull. The rest of the story you know.

[@1972hermanoben]

Half-man, half-bull? Physically impossible, sorry. Full marks for scholarship though - yours is far better than that which informs this documentary - they lost me on that score about a minute in, by describing Theseus as “the ultimate hero”.

[@tecraman8100]

​@@1972hermanobenphysically impossible? No shit that's why it's a myth

[@mottthehoople693]

@@1972hermanoben lol are you special or something? Its a story..always was a story..I bet you are fun when the jokes start being told...

[@1972hermanoben]

​@@mottthehoople693😂 We're all special in our own way, friend. You'd be shocked at what people are prepared to believe: apparently, a zombie carpenter is going to return to Earth one of these days to prepare the World's population for 'judgement' by the unseen original creator of the universe!

[@mottthehoople693]

@@1972hermanoben sigh... geology and mathematics actually proves that Darwin was wrong Einstein was right and intelligent design is true...

[@CoopedUp74]

Very Educational! Thank You!

[@YusufGinnah]

Schliemann was great in his discovery of Troy... But did he have to use dynamite 🧨??

[@maszkalman3676]

He was great at destroying history....

[@YusufGinnah]

@@maszkalman3676 It's something I could never understand. You can't claim to preserve history by destroying it.

[@maszkalman3676]

@@YusufGinnah Exactyl he was a b@stard of archeology i don't know why peopels see in him the discoverer of troy...

[@REIDAE]

@@maszkalman3676 Because he did discover troy?

[@maszkalman3676]

@@REIDAE no!!! actually in the historical record or in the material evidence clearly states that city was ever called troy it might be a basis of the stroy but show me jsut one evidence fro mthe site that says the city was troy you make shłt up as you go....

[@FutureMythology]

Fascinating question!

[@ryanradpictures]

This video is a fascinating and informative look at the myth of the Minotaur and the labyrinth. The hosts of Myth Hunters do an excellent job of investigating the evidence and presenting their findings in a clear and concise way. I learned a lot about this ancient myth, and I highly recommend this video to anyone interested in history, mythology, or archaeology.

[@gregledbetter5942]

Wow this was a really good one

[@curiositycloset2359]

Worth watching the satyricon, has a good rendition of something closer to the truth.

[@maszkalman3676]

Well i wouldn't cite satyricon as a good example it's literally a menippean satyre written in the 1st century AD so 1100-3000 years later then the minoan civilisation.

[@jonskinz79]

now this is a history lesson ty

[@HennyWho_7]

They really liked that old Neolithic fish catching trick….where you build mazes off beaches and rivers to trap food

[@MrVinniboy]

I am very frustated that KZbin only let us thank(thumb button) only once,, this is a great show, Thank You so much for all the back story and mythology,

[@jadedjhypsi]

My ALLTIME favorite myth!!! So excited to watch... =)

[@MajorMosh710]

for anyone wondering, the documentary finally talks about the labyrinth at 15:15

[@kevinmulcahy7991]

I enjoyed the scholarly presentation.

[@dp6003]

Wrong site for the labyrinth, understanding the language is the clue

[@LuDux]

There did they keep Minotaur while they were building the labyrinth?

[@maszkalman3676]

Under a shoebox 🤣😆🤣😆

[@themysteryofbluebirdboulevard]

In the other labyrinth

[@fairyboy444]

i may be wrong, but wasn’t it a cage or room where the father was helping restrain him? only to put him in the labyrinth as he was getting older and bigger bc they didn’t want to kill him?

[@CailinRuaAnChead]

Yes the king comssioned deadalus to build the labyrinth as soon as the minotaur was born. It took years to build, and the minotaur was kept in increasingly large cages in the castle until quite a was finished. It was only just finished in time as they were struggling to control the increasingly large and dangerous beast as it grew

[@fairyboy444]

@@CailinRuaAnChead ahh there you go! Daedalus, the master craftsman/carpenter

[@Purplesubmariner]

The bull is used in many depictions, stbols and purposes. What bothers me a lot with historical digs and execavation parties is that people set out to find something specific, and then they twist their findings to suit what they want it to be, rather than to discover what it _really_ means. I'll give it, Evans found something of true worth and value, but to claim it's the orogin of the labryinth and minataur because he found a throne and a sculpture of a bull is as much a stretch as saying Unicorns were hunted to exinction by proof of the unicorn tapestries.

[@Chris.Davies]

I could never understand how a cow could eat human flesh. It's got the wrong kind of teeth, for a start. And guts. And a Bull's head would make the Minotaur very top-heavy, and super unstable on his poor little feet. :)

[@curiositycloset2359]

Because, as has been said. There were two monsters in the labyrinth. Worth looking to theses is

[@BlueBonnie764]

What,?... Of course! 🍿🍿🍿🧈. Poor little feet? Didn't he have hooves?

[@YusufGinnah]

@@BlueBonnie764 Yes! That also gave me reason to paws... 🫠

[@jasonwebb7978]

3:03 Head of Bull Teeth of a Lion.

[@thedude8046]

Cows can eat meat.

[@DorsetExplorers]

Great filming location, Portland Dorset ?

[@austinisfullpleasedontmove653]

The labyrinth was found in 2012. It is at Hawarra.

[@TwichMcvey-mc3pv]

The legend feels like a version of puberty. Make father proud and happy with you, going through a deep and dark labyrinth, fighting through monstrous feelings, thoughts, and growing as a person, to come out into the light having survived it all. From age 10 to 18 now but back then it was more often 10 to 14. Then you were an "adult" and married off or apprenticed. Four years of struggle to understand and become what the adults in your life wanted.

[@g4m3life86]

Yes! Minoans, denizens of the island of Crete, that spectacular mysterious island

[@Godsgurl]

Love it..

[@LaRusso]

Damn this was a good one.

[@BlueBonnie764]

The " Minot Magicians" 🧙 My hometown High School. Named for the legend, in Minot, North Dakota. A dark legend for sure.🪄🎩(Founded by a French Canadian, lol.🇨🇦)

[@thomass9234]

Why wouldn’t the team have just been named the “Minotaurs”?

[@EmilyCheetham]

Interesting video. Iv always assumed a maze had existed but just not the Minotaur (that being a mythological animal).

[@jadedjhypsi]

There is an amazing fictional series written by Sara Douglass about this exact tale. It puts a mind-blowing twist on where in history this story should lie =)

[@DDAWGY1]

Excelent!

[@1972hermanoben]

Fantastic stick-on moustache on Evans! 😅

[@JessicaD.-vb9ho]

I definitely believe so.

[@UnionBlue-h8e]

Reference to Labyrinths of Crete and Minotaur: And since the light has shone down out of Heaven upon the dark confusion of human affairs, we can discern a meaning in the most perplexing passages, and trace a guiding clew through labyrinths more intricate than that of Crete. -war with Mexico reviewed, Abiel Livermore

[@rosesacks7430]

I think there's some additional information about the Minoan and bull jumping

[@DanielEleveld]

“The Minotaur- the monstrous son of King Minos” … um… yeah let’s go with that. That sounds way better!

[@mr.bill.8236]

Now I'm curious of how much farther back we could go.

[@Brmsg]

It is real and very deep . Scary .

[@doncarlodivargas5497]

Would barbecuing the minotaur be considered cannibalism or would it be ok?

[@ilium6740]

Also would it taste like beef or human ?😮

[@dakotacole3713]

Indeed.

[@DM19905]

@@ilium6740or would it be 50/50? 🤷‍♂️

[@pectenmaximus231]

13:38 that is a statement no modern historian or archaeologist would agree with. I realise that maybe in Evans' mind this was a plausible hypothesis but it's left ambiguous if this is even what the narration means, so quite reckless.

[@frazionetomaselli]

Long story short, no it did not.

[@valentine1713]

Or did it???

[@adamsteven1142]

Im surprised there are no afro centric here claiming minoans were black too 😂

[@mywifesboyfriend5558]

We wuz kangs

[@jacquecortez5014]

Finding an labyrinth with a hungry minotaur may be a bad idea.

[@Lostsoulmedia]

Yes you can see it on Google Maps

[@Coolybanana]

Theseus holding a candle.....😂😂

[@dudeistpreist5721]

Have you checked in the old new york that the current one was built on?

[@themysteryofbluebirdboulevard]

Just because New York City is real doesn't mean that Spiderman is.

[@WhiteTrashTennessee]

Thats apples and oranges man.

[@carnagejlu]

Blasphemy!

[@meorsoithought]

It does mean the subway system and sewers exist... and maybe the ninja turtles

[@AppalachianAntidote]

Big trouble in little China!

[@jadedrakerider518]

It's true. But there were pizza restaurants, asshole industry titans, obssessed scientists, and people who think their ends justify their means. The details are almost entirely fabricated, but there are still many truths embedded in the stories of even Spider-Man.

[@HumanBeanbag]

The labyrinth probably never existed but the minotaur is absolutely, very real.

[@pectenmaximus231]

Feels like you got it the wrong way around

[@Stoicsaiyan]

Sure buddy

[@clevelandplonsey7480]

I’ve been to the labyrinth

[@EmilyCheetham]

I always thought it the other way round. That a maze existed but not the Minotaur.

[@fajaradi1223]

​@@EmilyCheetham I've seen some cowboy and cowgirl. They're real, and they're the descendants of Minotaur the human bulls.

[@monikagrosch9632]

The Minotaur was NOT the son of Minos he was the son of Minos’ queen Pasiphae and a bull

[@maxnum1sgameclub263]

Without watching the vid, i dont think the Minotaur excited. I do believe there was some sort if labyrinth for prison games or other punishment. It would be in line for greece history for prisoners to play games for the public. And the public would place bets who won like forced gladiator games. So a death maze would not that weird for ancient greece. And if nobody did came come out the rumors of a monster inside must be true right? Let the rumors get the better of scared prisoners!

[@KittymoreJoy]

I agree that is a very logical conclusion. We do not always remember that death games were part of Greek society. Most do not remember that in the 18th and 19th century, bored nobility had “ Poison Parties”. Different poisons in variable strengths were prepared for guests, who picked their poison. Who would get a little sick, a lot sick or actually died from the cup they picked- having no idea of what they drank. There were deaths but covered up, money talks. Imagine being so bored that you gambled with your own life to get a thrill. I guess that was a thing Back then and still today.

[@4everseekingwisdom690]

It like all myths are complex symbolic allegories.. in this case the minotaur is the ego which must be destroyed. It's not a maze its.a labyrinth.. meaning a definite path to the center.. you can lost in a maze not a labyrinth

[@69sparker]

For everyone not wanting to wait til the end to find the answer, yes of course it did.

[@huh4tofpv384]

Genesis 10:4: The Caphtorim are described as descendants of Mizraim, son of Ham, son of Noah.. caphtor was said to be part human part cow..(sounds like a minitar)

[@mywifesboyfriend5558]

Short answer : No

[@williej7584]

Long answer? 😅

[@austinisfullpleasedontmove653]

Uncharted X did a full piece on the labyrinth that was found in 2012 using lidar at Hawara. This piece you are viewing is sorely incomplete. Uncharted X people.

[@MrMojoman1976]

The title of this video and its actual content is a bit of a bait and switch

[@dann_mrtins]

It seems it was...just kidding, but that Labyrinth may be related to those legends

[@evanbennett4562]

Evans was silenced by non believers?

[@draganjagodic4056]

Why not say, it was Serbia, where Evans was arrested and jailed.

[@VaderPopsVicodin10]

"Myno-tore"..Idk, I've always preferred "Minn-a-tar" 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@johnsterling5425]

not buying the argument that they "need writing" to tell the story of Troy, just a scene earlier the narrator said it was an oral folk lore? lol

[@lenabreijer1311]

It is missing the quotation marks. This is Evans thinking that, not the narrator. Victorian concepts.

[@curiositycloset2359]

It was just folk law. Then they found script A - edit. sorry, linear B Always get it mixed up.

[@Jamie-j6o]

Writing You Mentioned, That Be The Same Type Of Fabricated Writing. Attributed To KHUFU, &, Flinders Petrie, Telling Folks He, (KHUFU), Built The Great PYRAMID, At Giza.! Anyone Who Believes That LIE, Should Throw Themselves Of A Mountainside, The Genepool, Is Messed Up Enough.! We All Know Why, The Egyptologists Defend Such Bullshit, Its Due To Them Realising All Their PHD's ARE WORTHLESS, &, Not Worth The Paper The Ink Was Printed Upon.! 😮😊😅😂😅

[@TiesOfZip]

Yeah, as interesting as these are, they’re generally chock full of holes and contradictions

[@ilium6740]

You're correct, but this documentary is about Evans and his motivations, and what HE believed.

[@pinkpugginz]

Didn't the Minotaur eat the doctor's fingers when he was being born.

[@johnransom1146]

Wait. The telephone was invented in brantford, Ontario, Canada. The light bulb by Edison in Canada or the USA. So, huh

[@sarahmillard6401]

The invention of the telephone is much disputed: Bell filed the first proper patent, but others had previously filed caveat patents (notably Meucci). Bell was born and educated in Britain but I wouldn’t say it was a British invention though! Swan started work on lightbulbs 28 years before Edison, and demonstrated his bulb a year before Edison’s. The Swan and Edison companies later merged, but the lightbulb is definitely a British invention.

[@johnransom1146]

Nope . Vienna Ontario @@sarahmillard6401

[@melanierhianna]

Bell was still a British citizen so it’s a bit of a stretch but a possible interpretation. Swan definitely invented the light build before Edison. In fact Edison quite often claimed inventions that he didn’t invent.

[@shauntempley9757]

Yes. A Dominion at that time, so anything invented in Canada during that time is claimed by Britain by default. It is one of the key reasons the Empire turned to the Commonwealth of some Realms sharing the same Monarch.

[@johnransom1146]

Whatever you say bud@@shauntempley9757

[@GameMaster0025]

Actually they're probably wasn't maze but I don't think that there was a Minotaur

[@nervosadustbolt9642]

Well, If the Minotaur was real.. I am pretty safe, I'm not no Virgin Maiden. lmfao

[@charlisays]

Evans is giving me rich bored overgrown boy / British Museum thieving antiquities from other countries.

[@MrBeckenhimself]

I LOVE Greek mythology to the point of obsession. I love it so much that based on that alone Assassin's Creed Odyssey is my all time favorite game. For those of you who didn't know the word labyrinth probably originated from the word labrys. Which was what they called the two headed axe that was famous in Crete during that time. Theseus obviously never really existed and Athens never defeated Crete in war and ended their reign. Instead natural disasters and likely internal conflict was what started the down fall of their Civilization. But it makes for a much more compelling story.

[@Garthritis]

I wonder if he made his dad call him sir?

[@LiveSilence3]

A Tip For all first Time KZbin users/viewers. Before you start to Watch a video on here scream! Yell! Then scream some more! Then have a nap For 10 seconds. Your Now ready to Watch KZbin

[@nerdvana101]

Sod the bloody labyrinth are we honestly expected to believe the minotaur actually existed seriously people get a brain

[@EmilyCheetham]

No the labyrinth may have existed and someone might have slain some long dead/extinct creature but probably wasn’t a Minotaur. The Minotaur part was probably added by the greeks as a metaphor.

[@Hadoken.]

@@EmilyCheethamThe Romans? You mean the Greeks.

[@TheSpaceJockey91]

@@EmilyCheetham Either that or a maniac wearing a decapitated bulls head hired by the king.

[@troutbumgypsy9169]

Too many commercials

[@jayplay8140]

The entire story is a metaphor, a fable. JFC

[@JessicaD.-vb9ho]

All myths are rooted in truth.

[@hudsonfrank1121]

dejavu for a repeated episode from 3 years ago. About a third of this is repeat info :/

[@cadderley100]

Please, don't show me what we are now. It upsets me. It took us hundreds of years to rise, and the country fell in the blink of an eye. To think of what we were, and compare it to what we have become. I will say one thing about that site, the preservation is outstanding. I'm not thinking about what we've found. I'm thinking about what we haven't found. There must be dozens of sites that we have not found yet, as well preserved as this. All that I know is this, wherever there is water, there is life.

[@3566angi]

Don’t even make it through the introduction without an ad. Really?!🙄

[@maggieaulabaugh9124]

Womp womp

[@user-Rocket-Fest]

UK the inventor of so many products and now imports them all?? Stupid or crazy??

[@ZeusAmun-pt9dc]

Naw it's a metaphor for something that the Greeks should know but I never had no maze on any island nor asked for human sacrifice. I'm pretty sure that the Minotaur is supposed to be me because I AM The Bull of Heaven and made Crete my earthly paradise. Damn those sea people!!

[@jamesjohno1180]

“What the experts don’t understand!🤓” the experts understand that you’re not an expert and just some kid who watches KZbin videos thinking they know more than anyone in the comments😂

[@BlueBonnie764]

I'm a 66 year old kid that learns something new every day! If we don't stay curious... We are dead, and boring. A fate worse than death. 🌷🌷🌷.

[@jamesjohno1180]

@@BlueBonnie764 exactly! My old friend you said it right…”learn” most of these people you see commenting in comments don’t learn anything factual or they watch a KZbin video and feel they should shoot shots at experts who do this for a living😂 We should always stay curious and learn instead of not agreeing to things and saying it’s all wrong because it’s not what you think or you watched a video and it’s not the same so it’s fake. I said “kid” because many are kids who don’t even go outside but feel they can stand up to experts😂

[@BlueBonnie764]

@@jamesjohno1180 Agreed 🌷🌷🌷. Oh, anyone under the age of 50 is a "kid" to me, 🤣🤣🤣

[@1972hermanoben]

You never know who might be commenting…

[@OfficialJanitor]

So "As Above, So Below" is based in this?

[@LoveLestat]

im sorry i heard 'the ultimate hero fecies"

[@paolafr.9753]

The myth is about the ending of child sacrifice..... Obviously!

[@dp6003]

Greece was the birthplace of Western and Middle Eastern civilisation, full stop

[@JuanMiranda-z2c]

Mesopotamia is literally called “the cradle of civilization” and that’s in the Middle East, so no, lol

[@dp6003]

@@JuanMiranda-z2c Just because someone has an illusion,a lack of knowledge a belief that they are an expert Writes a book,follows a blind mice to a uninformed confusion (conclusion) Doesn’t make the conclusion right Greece was the cradle of Western and Middle Eastern Civilisation full stop History began from west (Greece) to East and not from east to west

[@dp6003]

@@JuanMiranda-z2c I repeat, Greece, was the birthplace of Western and Middle Eastern Civilisation,yes lol full stop “Mesopotamia” is a Greek word

[@kkk-rx6xh]

@@dp6003 Sumer predates the Mycenaean civilization by about 4 thousand years. Mesopotamia was a historical region, not a country. "Mesopotamia" is the name of this region in modern English, not in Sumerian or Akkadian, so it's completely meaningless вброс. Oh wait, are you just a patriotic Greek and can’t objectively look at civilizations older than the Greek ones?

[@kkk-rx6xh]

@@dp6003 Why this stupid sarcasm? Did I say something wrong? Please point me to this error then. Yes, I am very experienced, because in order to know that, I had to go on countless time machine expeditions, так ведь?) Достаточно ли мой ответ соответствует вашему прекрасному уровню ведения дискуссий?

[@SuperGiantGeckosLLC]

Ancient version of Running Man

[@jonathanjeffreys3007]

FYI, the past tense of "slay" is not "slayed". It is "slew", as in "Theseus slew the beast". (See online Collins English Dictionary and other reputable authorities.) If you are going to do the voice-over for serious subjects, I suggest you acquire a basic knowledge of English grammar.

[@andyhayes7828]

Minoan Palace's (layout/design were the labyrinth). The Minoans were the link between the middle East (first great civilizations, Babylon, Egypt, etc) and Europe. The Mycenaens were completely enriched by the Minoans and copied their everymove. Most of the Greek dark ages was filled with tales dating back to the Minoan/ Mycenaen era (Menataur, Medusa ( snake goddess of Crete) and the story of Atlantis is most certainly decended tales (tall for sure 😂) of theThera eruption.

[@iiiKingLongSwipeiii]

They should keep digging till they find the body of the Minotaur

[@archivis]

moo?

[@artiz32000]

yes, it did. vast storage on the ground floor of Knossos . impoverished people who live in the area of today's Athens never ever dreamed of having such huge storage complexes.

[@jonathanjeffreys3007]

Furthermore, the Minotaur was not the son of Minos, King of Crete, as you incorrectly stated.. If you had studied Greek myths in any detail, you would know that according to legend Pasiphae, Minos' wife, developed an un-natural passion for a prize bull and consummated her lust by hiding in a hollow wooden cow, made for her by Daedalus - the mythical inventor and sculptor, She was impregnated by the bull, and gave birth to the Minotaur. I give up: of course the Minotaur didn't really exist. We are not children, you know.

[@mosescola4174]

100% without a doubt the labyrinth did exist. Yet it did not exist in Greece. The Minoans weren’t the original inhabitants of Crete they only settled there. So some stories of ancient times were either rewritten to hide the truth or details left out due to word of mouth.

[@shauntempley9757]

The Minoans are first. The people that corrupted the information is the Myceneans. They took over Crete, and the histories and thus myths changed, after the eruption that wiped out the Minoans civilisation. Crete is huge in mythology, because it is the island that Zeus was said to be born on, and also where he is said to have died.

[@voycressv460]

As legend goes ,it did exist.

[@mywifesboyfriend5558]

Nah

[@ArtFreeman]

Let's not forget Greek slaves. They were not first civilization to have slaves but they used slaves in addition to all the other things they did.

[@gman102formyspace]

Fairly positive you can say that about any society or civilization

[@ArtFreeman]

I agree. Humans have been enslaving each other for a long time. @@gman102formyspace

[@CMP-st5wh]

Wait till you find out there's still slaves today. (And no i'm not talking about the job you choose to go to lol)

[@mb9326]

All the major civilizations did.

[@ArtFreeman]

@@mb9326 I do not know what you mean by "major" but I think most if not all had slaves, were slaves, or both.

[@Toyota_Supra-cp2ug]

i mean a guy with a bulls head is super realistic