Did the Romans Know How Old the Pyramids Were?

[@Zebred2001]

Fun fact: At least 37 years after the obelisk was set up there were still people in Egypt that could have read it. The last known Egyptian inscription is dated to 24 August A.D. 394. This was a dedicatory inscription devotion to a god recorded in a temple near Aswan.

[@MediumDSpeaks]

that doesn't sound like that long

[@gandalfstormcrow8439]

Talk about useless information... Love it! Ty!😜 I'm seriously impressed!👍👍👍

[@callmeonkeshiasphone]

I wonder if the ppl in Egyptian that could had read it, did they know where it was?

[@starcapture3040]

@@callmeonkeshiasphone what do you mean?

[@djowen5192]

It was in the Temple of Isis.

[@jk484]

Amazing how the ancient Egyptians were as ancient to the Romans as the Romans are to us. The Greeks also had their own 'ancient' Greeks, such as Plato in 390 bc or so discussing the siege of Troy, which they believed took place 1400 years earlier, around 1700 BC

[@JakubWasikiewicz]

Humans have been around for 300,000 years. There have been ancient cultures and peoples throughout that time. The oldest written story meanwhile is only 3-4 thousand years old, and there are undoubtedly stories that have been passed down orally for tens of thousands and possibly hundreds of thousands of years. To whom do we owe these to? Imagine meeting one of these people, how different your life is and yet how similar enough that you know what they are talking about.

[@voltairethegoldflame9280]

@@JakubWasikiewicz we know that some ideas about the underworld go back at least 20,000 years or so (such as dogs guarding the underworld)

[@JakubWasikiewicz]

@@voltairethegoldflame9280 I realize there are a lot of older stories but it's so difficult to date them since they almost certainly always changing.

[@LeCharles07]

If you think that's wild, hang on to your socks. Less time has passed since T-rex was alive than the time span between Stegosaurus and T-rex.

[@Mortismors]

@@JakubWasikiewicz I'm starting to think the book of Enoch is from the time of the younger Dryas about 13,000 years ago. Which would mean the book of Job is depicting a story from this time yet written down much more recently. It makes me think Noah was remembered as Prometheus after he had his family bury Gobekli Tepe in an attempt to erase the old gods.

[@Bargadiel]

A video on ancient tourism would be really interesting. I figured that traveling by sea was still pretty dangerous, and that most people didn't have the disposable income to travel for pleasure.

[@udishomer5852]

Traveling by sea was very routine, many thousands of ships sailed the Mediterranean regularly around 0 AD. It wasn't comfortable at all though and only fit for adventurers, not retired couples in their 60s.

[@antonio7334]

I think Mr Notanile Croc has something to say at 15:14

[@rickrandom6734]

Only very few could afford to travel for pleasure and it was uncomfortable and also quite dangerous. Traveling was not considered something nice to do on vacation, because even vacation was something of an alien concept, if people had free time they rather stayed home.

[@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714]

Anyone could travel if they wished. But how you defend yourself navigate and get food is on you.

[@mavdogxtreme5000]

Not to many money machines back then

[@gbennett58]

“What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so.” - Mark Twain

[@ImGoinToHellForThis]

Like the part where he said, "We now know that the pyramids were created..." Soon as I heard the number, I completely lost interest in the narrative🤦🏼‍♂️

[@SB4F]

@@ImGoinToHellForThis Curious what number you didn't like 2600, 1200 or 950bc?

[@pandemicphilly60]

​@@ImGoinToHellForThis We have dating now though

[@ImGoinToHellForThis]

@@pandemicphilly60 we have suspected dating. There's a lot of serious scientists who disagree with dates that're being expressed as fact. They believe the original "Great pyramid" & the Sphinx are much older than we've been lead to believe. Even the Egyptians themselves don't mention it or have any records of it's original construction...

[@dallassegno]

you mean like all human history.

[@lukesmith1818]

Interesting to note that hieroglyphics were restricted to priests. I learned elsewhere that the majority of the pantheon was worshipped by the nobility who made sure rain fell and that victory in battle would be assured. The peasants worshipped household gods. So there was a real class divide with religion

[@jimjimsauce]

for the most part literacy during these times around egypt was really only used by scribes and priests

[@arma5166]

search luke smith on KZbin. you'll find a bald christian guy mumbling about technology and free software

[@faithlesshound5621]

Hieroglyphics may latterly (after they became more complicated) have been restricted to priests, but there were also the hieratic and demotic scripts. It seems that some workmen many centuries earlier knew both hieroglyphic and hieratic writing. We have something like that today in the English-speaking countries, where children no longer learn joined-up handwriting, just how to print individual letters. Handwritten documents may as well be in Greek to them. The old German script (print as well as manual) may be similarly opaque to many modern people.

[@MikeAG333]

@@faithlesshound5621 That's nonsense of course. Children in the UK are still taught to write properly with joined-up script. And of course they can read it, too.

[@Skyfighter94]

This class divide in religion, which is omnipresent in most polytheistic religions, is the reason why christianity had this unbelievable rise to a world religion. Christianity marketed itself as a religion for ordinary, hard working people. A religion for the majority of people instead of the elite.

[@OverlordParadox]

Those ancient Yelp reviews made me laugh out loud. Good job on the video as always!

[@speggeri90]

That obviously-not-a-crocodile-and-definately-a-human-trust-me-bro made me lol.

[@d0tdash]

Imagine what kind of photos Antony posted 👀

[@Ravenghast]

Loving the idea of a "burger pharaoh". Would their burgers be wrapped in papyrus perhaps? Would they serve gallic fries?

[@chasbodaniels1744]

Gallic fries, aaaa hahaha!

[@lyricofwise6894]

I like how this channel uses funny images, but has a really calm slow serious voice that never changes

[@TheLastArbiter]

I remember hearing that Egypt was as ancient to Rome as Rome is to us and being amazed

[@Dimitri88888888]

It was that Cleopatra is closer in terms of historical timeline to the opening of the first Macdonalds then that of the enactment of the pyramids of Giza

[@PRH123]

Was that last week, or..,? :)

[@starcapture3040]

Cleopatra being closer to us in time than us to the time of the pyramids.

[@PRH123]

@@starcapture3040 she was of course Greek, in the last generation of the Alexandrovite rulers….

[@556m4]

Who’s Cleopatra ? Is she a Kardashian sister ?

[@milosit]

Fun fact: In the Middle Ages, it was thought that the Pyramids of Giza were Pharoah's barns. If you examine the Mappa Mundi (c 1280AD) in Hereford Cathedral, you can clearly see large traditional-looking barns drawn in the map location for Egypt. It's as though the map drawers were told to draw large barns.

[@lorinapetranova2607]

Maybe they didn't know how to draw solids with perspective. It's sort of something that's learned.

[@milosit]

@@lorinapetranova2607 You're suggesting that a 2d triangle is harder to draw than a 2d irregular hexagon? It's a well-known fact that drawings of far-away lands in the middle ages were often based on 2nd hand knowledge. The depictions of fantastical bestiary of Africa & Ethiopia attest to that. Rhinos, Elephants, leopards, lions. Even peoples with giant feet were purported - such as sciopods and monopods, and peoples with faces on their chests - blemmyes.

[@lorinapetranova2607]

I'm suggesting that a 3d triangle is harder to draw than 2d. It's part of being able to draw perspective like a road in a landscape that widens n things closer to the mts or whatever is depicted as out yonder. Also Egyptian carvings on bldgs are flat and no dimension. This is what I was trying to depict. Not 2d drawings.

[@MarzoVarea]

Barns in Egypt on a map in a cathedral? That has to be a reference to Joseph's story.

[@hedgehog3180]

Well rather graneries, they were basing this interpretation on the old testament story of Joseph since they believed it to be literally true. And like you can see why a medieval person might make this assumption because they'd figure that securing a harvest is the single most important thing you can do so in their mind building enormous graneries made a lot of sense.

[@thatoneguy7191]

4:59 The serious tone of your narration combined with these silly things in the video is honestly such a unique combo haha

[@spankflaps1365]

When the Romans were in Egypt, the pyramids still had their casing stones, but the inner chambers had already been breached and looted. It would have been inspirational for Roman architects to see the pyramids in all their smooth sided glory!

[@jakeweston8616]

I was just wondering if the casing stones would have been intact at that time. About how old would the pyramids have been? Thanks

[@starcapture3040]

From what we Know the khufu Pyramid wasn't successfully preached Until the Abbasid Emperor Ma'mun made a tunnel successfully opening preach to the pyramid gallery reaching so called King, Queen and subterranean chambers not finding anything in the processes. Egyptologist Believe that the pyramids were looted by the priests themselves when the old kingdom collapsed.

[@CopenhagenDreaming]

Well, since the Pyramid of Cestius in Rome is smooth sided, it would appear some Roman architects felt quite inspired! :-)

[@BatMan-oe2gh]

@@starcapture3040 I wondered if I would find a comment like this. Glad I found it as I was going to say the same thing. Cheers

[@cphowitzer]

Can you give a reference to why you believe they had casing intact? I believe the casing fell apart about 1000 years before Rome even became an empire.

[@thepopeofspice6211]

Thank you for reigniting my love for ancient history!

[@BobbyReborn]

Randomly placed obelisks are always fun to encounter in Europe and Turkey. The one in Instanbul is really cool. Great vid as always

[@tonylipsmire5918]

And it is in both Europe and Turkey

[@lperea21]

​@@tonylipsmire5918 NYC too

[@johnnyrotten3175]

Saint Peters Square, the Vatican

[@MatthewTheWanderer]

And the Washington Monument in Washington, DC, which is the tallest obelisk ever built.

[@johnnyrotten3175]

​@@MatthewTheWandererthe one in Washington was built their not brought their from Egypt...

[@SoulBro12]

I just like messing people's head sometimes with this fact that the Romans lived milleniums after the pyramids were built, same thing goes for how the Trex is more recent to us than a Stegosaurus is to a Trex.

[@wauliepalnuts6134]

*_I LIKE THAT COMPARISON. I HEARD A SIMILAR ONE DESCRIBING HOW ANCIENT EGYPT WAS TO ANCIENT ROME AS ANCIENT ROME IS TO US._*

[@decem_sagittae]

You must feel very clever 👏🏻

[@JonatasAdoM]

Trex had me confused before I finished reading the comment.

[@mephtis4356]

Tutankhamun is closer to us than the pyramids were to him

[@starcapture3040]

that is fascinating subject, it is he same about UR pyramid. at that time it seems these 2 civilizations were obsessed with pyramids building for some reason, not to ignore mesoAmerica too.

[@jarlborg1531]

I think the sheer magnificence of the pyramids is, in part, why foreign occupiers chose to adopt Egyptian custom and found their own pharaonic dynasties. The pyramids were a demonstration of ancient power and sophistication that gave Egyptian culture great status even as a conquered nation.

[@waltonsmith7210]

Yep. When in Egypt....

[@skinnylong2023]

Except the Arabs. Let’s just hope the Arabs in Egypt don’t blow them up like in Syria.

[@MrMr-ws3tv]

​@engineer gaming we don't talk about Islamic invasions or the Barbary Pirate's it's seen as racist.

[@swissmilitischristilxxii3691]

​@@MrMr-ws3tveverybody knows only europeans (greeks, romans, vikings, spaniards, brits, etc ...) do bad things. Ottomans, jews, and africans participating actively in the slave trade is, and must stay taboo. Let's blame the europeans only.

[@leoledino]

@engineer gaming I am sad to see that your hatred is fueled by ignorance. The Muslims invaders were, like other before, mesmerized by Egyptian history. It was in fact important for them to not destroy the monuments since there were the proof of how great the Egyptians were and how yet they were defeated by them.

[@johnspizziri1919]

What their lenses could not show, they had no wish to see. Classic!

[@kenjitakashima1041]

some things really do never change

[@Ratnoseterry]

Your last comments on them perceiving Egypt through their own cultures and discarding what they did not want to see i feel is more relevant now than ever. Great video, hope to buy your book soon enough

[@mark4asp]

Originally the Greeks had a mythos which put the age of the world only a few generations old. Then some Greek travellers went to Eqypt where they met Egyptian priests who could trace their lineage back hundreds (300+) generations and had the whole lineage written down. This experience had a significant effect on the Greek sense of their own mythos. I'm sure those priests would've told the Romans the same.

[@Ryan5oh7]

I find it hard to believe they could trace their lineage over 10,000 years. Source?

[@MerlinJuergens]

​@@Ryan5oh7"Akschually"! "Souurce"? Average Redditor

[@mark4asp]

@@Ryan5oh7 You'll have to ask the Egyptian priest himself, who's been dead for over 2000 years. I'm just narratiing what that Greek wrote about when he explained to other Greeks why they'd been wrong about the age of the world - back then. Q: Source? A: Do your own research. I'm not here to provide you with sources; just so you can toss them away as soon as you see them - as the activist left do whenever they disagree with facts & history.

[@mark4asp]

@@Ryan5oh7 300 generations is closer to 6000 years.

[@ThistlewickTheGhost]

@@mark4aspso only 6000 BC? around 3000 years before the oldest writing then? you've taken a half-interesting anecdote and clearly can't remember it properly so you're saying "do your own research" after giving only the vaguest nonsense to reference. and then throwing in a reference to "the left" for no reason? you are clearly a stable and well-informed individual

[@fritz404]

I built the pyramids by myself a few years ago

[@olemorud8362]

The pyramids was my idea

[@knurlgnar24]

@@olemorud8362 Settle down there Ole Morud! They were very clearly your idea but fritz did indeed build them. I made the blueprints.

[@disappointinglaser-fight3463]

Thanks bro. That was pretty cool of you

[@A_Random_Guy_In_The_Comments]

i've just now discovered ancient evidence of the original builders of the pyramids from an entire year ago in the ancient past, incredible

[@tinymetaltrees]

Great jorb!

[@mm-yt8sf]

i guess for most people "it happened long ago before anything we're familiar with now" was sufficient description even for people who lived long ago :-) (and i guess people who lived long ago never see themselves as living long ago :-) wow now i'm imagining myself being an ancient character to someone in the future...if there is a future)

[@cowsmuggler1646]

Putin gonna fry your ess.

[@lorinapetranova2607]

Thanks for bringing me along in your thought! Time tripping is fascinating! Gives a totally different perspective.

[@mryamahapro12]

There’s always a future, with or without sentient life

[@jefflehoux9619]

I think in the future people will be looking at data fragments from the early days of the internet. They’ll say “well they gambled a lot and watched porn,” which will probably be comical to them…in the same way Greek and Roman graffiti is comical to us.

[@mariopenavic8573]

Great topic, and wonderfully presented, Garrett! It is really interesting to speculate what ancient cultures knew and thought about (more) ancient cultures. Maybe an idea for a future video: what other landmarks (natural and/or artificial) did the Romans find so interesting?

[@principalmcvicker6530]

Im pretty sure ive seen a video on stonehenge from a roman perspective

[@mariopenavic8573]

@@principalmcvicker6530 Very possible. The channel has a broad variety of very interesting videos. It could have been about Roman Britain, perhaps?

[@HerculesMays]

Here's a fascinating little tidbit on this vein, but from a cultural perspective. The Romans had *some* knowledge of the ancient Epic of Gilgamesh in that the Roman author, Claudius Aelianus, writes about Gilgamesh (in a way that shows how distorted this knowledge had become over thousands of years). It never ceases to fascinate me, however, to know and wonder what the Romans thought of an ancient tale over 2000 years older than themselves.

[@wauliepalnuts6134]

*_THE NEXT I COMPLAIN ABOUT MOVING SOMETHING HEAVY FROM MY LIVING ROOM TO THE BASEMENT, I WILL THINK ABOUT THE 900,000 LB OBELISK THAT WAS MOVED FROM EGYPT TO ROME._*

[@Ulexcool]

*_OK BRUH_*

[@aka99]

LUL

[@Apogee012]

Wtf was It actually 900k lb

[@ZEZlMA]

they didn't move it lol

[@livingonthetyne]

Thank goodness we found the The Rosetta Stone. After the Ptolemies, who were of Macedonian descent, began to rule Egypt in the 300s B.C., Greek replaced Egyptian as the official court language. About 600 years later, in 384 A.D., the Christian Roman Emperor Theodosius approved a decree that banned pagan religion from being practiced in Egypt, which was the beginning of the end for the use of hieroglyphics. In 1799, French soldiers serving under Napoleon in Egypt, who were repairing a fort in the town of Rashid (also known as Rosetta), discovered a stone slab that became known as the Rosetta Stone. It was covered with writing in three different scripts-hieroglyphic writing, demotic and ancient Greek. The three languages engraved upon a single stone enabled researchers to decipher the hieroglyphic writing.

[@RickLowrance]

Very good. If ancient Egypt is part of your bag, I, for one, would like to see more videos on this subject. I like the topic very much and it is hard to find good KZbin videos on this that are covered seriously by non-lunatics.

[@gargleblasta]

0:43 The egyptians even included a cancel-button X-D

[@poleag]

Egyptian priests told the story of Atlantis to Plato's ancestor Solon. The story takes place thousands of years before Solon. The combination of thousand year old stories, pyramids and monuments that look like they've undergone thousands of years of erosion, and advanced knowledge of chemistry, engineering, and other disciplines probably gave the Greeks and Romans a pretty good idea that Egypt was very, very old.

[@rubenboswall9768]

That's simply a lie man,why spread false info and deceive the people? You know they didn't tell Plato nothing if you read his work

[@poleag]

Egyptian priests told the story of Atlantis to Plato's ancestor Solon.

[@rubenboswall9768]

@@poleag oh I thought Plato made the story up, didn't he himself say Atlantis was just a figure

[@poleag]

@@rubenboswall9768 No, Plato says the story is "veritable." He says it's a true story. And when I say that the story was told to Plato's ancestor, it's only 4 or 5 generations, so there was not a lot of time for the story to be twisted or distorted.

[@rubenboswall9768]

@@poleag I believe if it was real it could have been Quebec Canada or in south America or in North Africa

[@solokalnesaltam3015]

"Not a Nile Crocodile" killed me lol

[@traviswebb3532]

Fantastic video. The whole yelp review was so funny. The "not a Nile crocodile" was just too funny. Then the line later about ancient aliens just hilarious.

[@traviswebb3532]

@Robocrop well this is the comment section and I want people to know what I enjoyed in the video. Why would you think I would do this in person and in real time? You are just a rude person.

[@bennolee348]

It's pretty neat that the Romans and Greeks general sense of when troy was sacked lines up with the archeological record.

[@spoon2537]

Ya that is pretty cool

[@Chevette1793]

Don't line up in the way you think. Not a consensus. And the greeks and romans don't have a "general sense of timeline". They had many guesses on the matter, I don't remember exactly who did the "between 1500-1200 BC guess", but wasn't a consensus for sure. We must remember that greeks and romans were not aware of their bronze age past, so narratives as the Trojan War, Aeneas and the "Wolf Mother" stuff came up as mythical foundations, not some sort of historical oral documentation.

[@r3conwoo]

I've never thought to think about what the Romans thought about the Pyramids but as soon as I read the title I couldn't help but wonder.

[@JannesDragon]

Man I really wish we would have videos of how they lived, talked and behaved back then. Would be so interesting to see

[@bryanguzik]

Partly shows why "the hero's journey" rings eternal. Until (very) recently the world effectively consisted of real monsters, heroes, magic, etc. Ignorance isn't the way to go, but I bet it sure was interesting.

[@DoeSwiftandBond]

Would you please elaborate on this ? Am quite interested to learn.

[@morenoh149]

What hero

[@adm_ezri]

@@morenoh149 the hero's journey is a storytelling structure. hero is called to action/adventure, crosses a threshhold into the unknown, faces trials and temptations, meets a revelation and experiences death & rebirth (of character, not always literal), is transformed, atones, and finally returns to the known world, completing the cycle. there's more details to it and I recommend reading up on it if you're interested, but that's the general idea.

[@bryanguzik]

@@DoeSwiftandBond oof, well it's straightforward but not easy to summarize. I'll break it down a bit, but definitely do a search for "Joseph Campbell" or "Hero's Journey" after. There will likely be too many sources (including Campbell himself) who set it out more fully. As for the format itself, western storytelling is what it is because of it. It's Everywhere. ----- Basically you start with a young man living his ordinary life, commonly a little anxious that this may be all there is & wanting 'more' (ie Luke Skywalker). Mostly not well-defined by the protagonist himself. Then usually an older, wiser man shows up (Merlin, Obi-Wan, Gandalf) saying "you are needed". Maybe there's wavering, maybe not, but always the conviction comes to go forth (Only you can defeat Vader, Only You can save the realm). So adventure starts, but being young this often means in a naive or cocky way. Which leads to some failure & realization (ie, Luke may have thought he trained hard enough, up until the moment he was shy one-hand)! The failure leads to a deeper seriousness of purpose/focus/training. Oh, and your party-size usually grows too. Then the old-man/mentor usually dies or leaves. But as you've now put in the hard work and created new relationships, you are also essentially now fully "reborn" into your new role. You will Never again be the young man from the Shire (or moisture farm). And thus you push forward, to increasingly difficult and/or a final challenge. Your success in these encounters end up having an effect on the larger world. It's only then when there can be a return "home". Except to everyone (&yourself) it's clear you've truly become a new man. Changed. *I've missed a few things, but like I said there's no quick summary & you can look just about...anywhere! As for what I meant in relation to this video, the people of antiquity lived believing Hercules, Ulysses, King Arthur, etc., were Real! The feats they accomplished also Real! So I think stories following along the pattern continue to be told because there's just something in them that has Always "spoke" to us. Almost like it's in our dna, where we don't just like them, but need them in some sense. *note: it also means that destroying the links on the journey is a Much more obvious explanation for lots of media criticism today. Compared to all the "isms" others like to pretend is the case. Anyway, hope that helped, if only a little. Peace.

[@PrimetimeNut]

These videos are one of the only thing left in my life that I look forward to

[@unknown81360]

Well that's not good

[@Sofus.]

Discover more

[@Blackadder75]

If you also like modern history, check out mark felton channel, he does equally quality videos about the 20th century

[@starcapture3040]

@@Blackadder75 I hate modern history since its full of bais.

[@farabundojanuariimarti]

@@starcapture3040 All history is full of bias, actually 🙂

[@alonehobo]

4:59 Marc Antony: "I just ate a kebab so bad I might stab myself. Cute girls though LOL."

[@rafailpanagiotidis6567]

2:05 Numa wrote the hardest diss track of antiquity

[@theweisides8790]

The yelp meme was great, I also appreciate the allusion to ancient astronaut theory

[@oswaldomayberry9260]

I love your content man. For some reason, I get vaguely uneasy when I think about these ancient civilizations and how there were millions of them and they each had their own unique life and families and jobs and inside jokes. And this cycle has been repeated over and over again. I guess when I research ancient history, it gives me a sense of how small and insignificant my life is lol

[@ColGesso]

Why does that make you feel insignificant? To me it makes being alive in this story seem all the more grand and compelling.

[@gljm]

I love Marc Antony's "Yelp" review.

[@grantbitman1448]

Not a Nile Crocodile's review was helpful. I think my next vacation will be spent swimming in the Nile, if it's the last thing I ever do.

[@aka99]

Try out Ganges. That river is so dirty, it will kill you in less than 10 seconds, lol

[@Gorocentral4a0]

We are closer in time to Cleopatra than she was to the building of the pyramids. Let that sink in

[@zebdawson3687]

You make some seriously great videos, sir! Thank you for all the work you put into these!

[@antonxuiz]

Don't know what percentage of viewers are American, but you may consider giving measures in meters and kilos too! Great video, as always. Cheers.

[@aka99]

Oh both measurements

[@antonxuiz]

@@aka99 thats why i said "too" at the end of the sentence

[@T33VO]

Archeology has moved so fast in the past 5 years that some of the details here are outdated, always a good watch though

[@joelkurowski7129]

5:14 those yelp reviews are amazing lol

[@hc5862]

1:35 unblurr my man’s peen! free the peen

[@123edwardzpad]

The real mystery is why the Egyptian ministry of antiquities allows so little access to sites.

[@customsongmaker]

Because then it would easily be proven that the facts in this video are incorrect

[@sanguillotine]

Because tourists tend to ruin archaeological sites, either intentionally or unintentionally. Egypt also has a history of having its ancient artifacts stolen by foreigners. Simple stuff.

[@123edwardzpad]

@@sanguillotine Tourism in Egypt is at an all time low. The only thing tourists want to leave with is their head, and not being decapitated by a radical mohammedan.

[@Jmoneysmoothboy]

@@sanguillotine OP didn't mention tourism. Individuals with fancy badges who have friends with lots of money find it difficult as well.

[@PRH123]

Access to sites is available for professional archaeologists and scientists etc. People with degrees. Who perform research. For tourists, random u tubers and pseudo science entertainers, of course not.

[@TetsuShima]

*Fun fact:* There's a 1983 mini-series about the Fall of the Egyptian Civilization called "The Cleopatras", which takes place from the marriage of Cleopatra II with her brother Ptolemy VIII in 145 B.C. to the suicide of Mark Anthony and Cleopatra VII in 36 B.C. Unfortunely, that mini-series was heavily critized, with many stating that it was a poor edgy attempt to imitate "I, Claudius"

[@notsocrates9529]

"edgy" That word has lost all meaning.

[@Leo_ofRedKeep]

Oh, I watched this. It was pretty terrible but fun, clearly not at the level of "I, Claudius". It's all on KZbin. In the same vein, the BBC also made The Borgias in 1981.

[@sigurdrobertsson2231]

@@notsocrates9529 as has cringe

[@gchecosse]

A drama about the ptolemies would be great but surely in some sense the "Egyptian civilisation" had already fallen if the ptolemies were there.

[@Chevette1793]

@@notsocrates9529 Blame teenager racists weirdos for that. And the older losers that act as the same 15y ago.

[@Nosirrbro]

1:57 bars bro bars

[@MilitaryMatters1]

The Greeks NEVER said they were Tombs btw, that is false information! Everything else was pretty accurate- that Egypt was still considered an Enigma and an Anomaly, and the Greeks and Romans had no clue when they were made. (Maybe a select few knew if that knowledge was shared)

[@normdeeploom5945]

Strabo wasn’t a Greek? He was born in a Greek region of current day Turkey and wrote in Greek. He was a Greek who was told by the extant Egyptians. So it is FALSE of you to claim what you have. Both Greeks and Egyptians said it. Whether it is correct or not is a different debate but you are presenting false information.

[@xxManscapexx]

Now this is a question I've always wanted answered. Thanks Garrett! Also, youtube didn't put this one in my notifications again. I watch every video, as they say, with bells on.

[@NGC-catseye]

Thanks 🙏 That was fascinating 😺 I’ve seen that obelisk in Rome myself, and never learned it’s history until now. Shame on me… Good for you 👍

[@mokkaveli]

I've never seen a comment with a donation before, that's cool

[@toldinstone]

Thank you! That's very generous.

[@automaticmattywhack1470]

Ancient Roman Yelp review from Marc Antony cracked me up. I love your humor!

[@orion7763]

Thinking about history from the perspective of the Romans is intriguing. Although civilization didn't exist yet, it makes me wonder about what cultures existed 20,000 years ago and how people lived.

[@arma5166]

cavemen I guess

[@dtread9543]

Civilization has been around since at least 15,000-14,000 years. Globeki tepe (excuse the spelling) in turkey proves it. You would need to have an organized society with agriculture to be able to build it.

[@theluftwaffle1]

20,000 years ago humans stretched all across the world in many different environments. From the frozen arctic, to thick rainforests, to coastal areas and savannah grasslands. Humans were probably on every continent say for South America (even then it’s argued). Many different cultures called this world home.

[@worldcomicsreview354]

@Graf von Losinj There is a way to "carve" some stone using sound vibrations, which is possible with things ancient people had. There are demonstrations on KZbin showing stone being cut or carved in "primitive" ways, with the results looking like they were made with modern tools.

[@Not-a-space-cat]

The modern human brain was developed 200,000 years ago. What was the difference in technology from the last 2000 years? It's crazy to realize that humankind might have lost its history due to catastrophic events. IE we've been hit by meteors of shit ton.

[@Anthony-nd6vk]

Another great video! It’s fantastic to learn about the interaction of ancient cultures!

[@nohbuddy1]

It's just amazing how long the pyramids have lasted without anyone destroying them

[@orion7763]

Each block of the pyramids weighs about 2.5 tons and the pyramids have about 2.3 million blocks. I think the only reason that pyramids have lasted to modern day is that it would have been extremely costly and time intensive to disassemble them.

[@aka99]

Yes

[@customsongmaker]

@@orion7763 that's also why they weren't built in 20 years by Khufu, since those numbers would require 1 block to be placed every 4 minutes for 20 years nonstop. But the Great Pyramid did exist at the time of Khufu, which means it was built before Khufu.

[@tsopmocful1958]

One of the caliphates attempted to destroy one, but gave up when it was too hard.

[@starcapture3040]

@@tsopmocful1958 this is a story come from the Ayyubid dynasty it wasn't a caliphate. the caliphate was in baghdad called the abbasids.

[@ClearlyPixelated]

That Yelp review though...Now I'm sold!

[@neovxr]

look at the Latin writing on the socket of the obelisk! religious essence of colonial system 101... Constantine was the founder of imperialism. That's why he is famous actually. "we brought this obelisk here for the fame of the Holy Cross" ....

[@daos3300]

'what those lenses could not show, they had no wish to see'. that sounds rather familiar, seems like some things never change.

[@ChrisBuss77]

The problem with dating the pyramids is that there are no hieroglyphs in any of the three pyramids nor has anyone found hieroglyphs attributing the building of the pyramids anywhere else - So we can claim they are 4 thousand years old or 20 thousand years old with the same data - For those who have read this far I suggest looking into the explanations archeologist have for how the inside of the granite boxes in the 'Serapeum of Saqqara' (80 to 100 tons each) were machined in 3 dimensions to a couple of thousandths of an inch (perfect inside corners) using bronze chisels . . .

[@sebumpostmortem]

In _The Inventory Stela_ we can clearly read "We are not the ones who made these monuments. Their construction is previous, we already found them". The geologic water marks of the Sphynx, the alignement with the Orion constellation and the several cave paintings found in the Sahara non-Desert back then (drawings of the 3 pyramids and a Lion sculpture) give a datation of 10.000 bC. Geology 101, astronomy and C-14. At that point, is just a matter of time that the stubborn archælogist community will finally accept it. If they accepted the Homo of Denisova in 2019...

[@thereallantesh]

@@sebumpostmortem I've been watching a lot of content online about the age of the pyramids over the last year or so, and the more I see the more I doubt what we've been taught. I'm really starting to believe there could be some truth to the pyramids being well over 10,000 years old, from a civilization whose history is forever lost.

[@sebumpostmortem]

@@thereallantesh I think so🙏🏻. Now that Tiahuanaco' s Puma Punku and Gobleki + Karahan Tepe have been accepted, it' s turn for the ægyptologist community to officially accept the scientific evidences. Btw, I forgot to mention another C-14 recognized datation (7.000 bC), _The Nubian Egg_ 🥚⛰️⛰️⛰️🦁

[@rubenboswall9768]

actually all the buildings around Giza are tombs, and do Infact have hieroglyphs stating it's a graveyard this is a fact

[@ChrisBuss77]

@@rubenboswall9768 - You responded to something I didn't say - My comment was that there are no hieroglyphics in the pyramids nor are there hieroglyphics anywhere in Egypt attributing the building of the pyramids to anyone.

[@faithlesshound5621]

One thing we have in common with the Romans is the preference for stories spun by our own cult writers over accounts from those with specialised learning. Herodotus versus Manetho. Erich von Däniken, Graham Hancock ...

[@Chevette1793]

Erich von Däniken 100% tourist 0% archeologist

[@PRH123]

@@Chevette1793 you should add “successful popular entertainer,” “good businessman” and “founder of the ufo-archaeology entertainment complex”

[@MikeVernonProd]

In the future, our current knowledge of ancient artifacts will likely be characterized as ignorant by a more advanced and more knowledgeable civilization.

[@katarinalove8649]

True knowledge is ways hidden by elites.

[@Chevette1793]

@@katarinalove8649 Bullshit. How do you know that if it's "secret"?

[@MrJohnboyofsj]

How do you propose we are going to know more about ancient artifacts in the future? The future isn't just promised that our understanding and technology gets better... I do hope we make new discoveries and archilogical sites but it's most likely we just lose or destroy evidence of these histories and more and more people care less about history by the day

[@bazev9444]

It is so interesting to know that there was as much mystery about the Ancient Egyptians then as there is now

[@Faustobellissimo]

You made a mistake. There were three obelisks in the Circus Maximus. The one you're talking about was brought by Constantius II in AD 357, was made by Thutmose III and is the tallest Egyptian obelisk ever (150 ft). The other two obelisks had been brought earlier by Augustus and are both younger and shorter.

[@jamesthefirst8790]

I believe the 150 ft Obelisk that was in the Circus Maximus is the one that in the 14th century was transported to "Piazza San Giovanni" (St. John Square), right in front of the Cathedral of the same name in Rome.

[@Faustobellissimo]

@@jamesthefirst8790 Yes, it was rediscovered and erected there in the 16th century.

[@geoffreycanie4609]

"What those lenses could not show, they had not wish to see" - so true even today

[@SmokeyJoe42098]

6:04 there’s a new line of thinking looking back to other regional structures that suggest the 23,000 BC mark that Diodorus proposed could actually be correct. Not to say they were erecting the pyramids at that time, but there’s also evidence supporting the pyramids being older than previously believed, a lot of research still needs to be done on this particular theory though.

[@erfgtdsfsdf6993]

No, its not correct. In those times there were only hunter gatherers. There were always some people in Egypt, no doubt about that, but that doesnt mean we can call them "egyptian civilization". Egyption kingdom was built by unification of those early farmer communities. There was no farming in 23 000 BC. Also Diodorus just made his best guess based on his own understanding of history and myths...

[@catman8965]

Carbon 14 analysis, thousands of samples, from Khufu's pyramid and the Giza plateau, reveal the site is consistent with mainstream thinking - about 4,500 years old.

[@teppo9585]

An earlier civilization, before dynastic Egyptians. Dynastic Egyptians didn´t have the tools to manufacture many of the finest and greatest buildings, monuments and artifacts found. About the no farming pre 12000 years ago: before that time sea levels were much lower (over 100 meters) as we were in the previous ice age, so that much of the farmlands of that time would now be under the seas and sediment not yet discovered by our time. And since it was ice age, it was cooler, so you couldn´t farm too far up where you now can.

[@customsongmaker]

@@erfgtdsfsdf6993 10 years ago, you would have repeated the mainstream idea that there were no megalithic builders in Turkey 12,000 years ago.

[@WeighedWilson]

Do we have a method of dating stone? Do we have a trusted record that tells us when these structures were built? If the answer is no then we can only *guess.*

[@vinsanity982]

Personally, I wish the Egyptians should re-case the Pyramids with the polished limestone of old. But, i guess it would be difficult to maintain them as they'd be constantly sand blasted.

[@N238E]

Why do modern Egyptians love to claim the Pyramids as their own? These Arabs didn't step foot in Egypt before 1300 years ago!

[@FlyingGospel]

This is quickly turning into my favorite channel. Just turned on notifications to be sure I don't miss anything. Please keep up the good work this is absolutely incredible content.

[@Je_QzcY3mN0]

People talk about aliens moving rocks for pyramids, but I've never heard anyone caring about romans moving a huge obelsisc lol

[@dinosore4782]

It’s funny how much we talk about Egypt but only because they built long lasting structure. I imagine all the cultures we barely know even exists just because they didn’t build a pyramid

[@pauloboyle477]

It’s is possible the Heratadus wasn’t that far off. If you trust geology they say the sphinx is atleast 11000 years old. We tend to forget that Egyptologist aren’t really scientists. I’d trust the scientist guy

[@Leeside999]

The idea that the Sphinx enclosure was eroded by rainfall 12k years ago is one theory by a geologist named Robert Shoch who chose not to submit his findings for peer-review but instead wrote a book. Other geologists disagree with his findings. It's not simply geologists versus Egyptologists. It's geologists versus other geologists.

[@reference2592]

Your videos are such treasures. Thank you

[@gregwiltbank2637]

Love hearing you on The Ancients podcast!!! it was awesome hearing you dive into a topic a little more

[@krileym]

I'm just relieved they censored the Cyclopes' paynus.

[@davetremaine9763]

0:23 Is that the actual route they would have taken? If so, why not a more direct route? Or is that just a common trade route with planned stops at ports along the way?

[@manbearpig710]

Might lose piece in the sea. Closer to the shore would yield a greater probably of recovery

[@Norsilca]

Romans were bad at navigating in the open ocean. If they went across, they could arrive hundreds of miles off course or get lost entirely.

[@omnijack]

The visuals were a special treat this time.

[@soundtrancecloud5101]

Herodotus might have the last laugh after all. 15,000 BC puts us before the last ice age, when there was a rainforest in Sahara. Interesting how the Sphinx has clear signs of hundreds of years of rain erosion in an area that is now a desert for the last 12,000 years. The region had a very sporadic and dramatic changes making the region unrecognizable even for the later inhabitants, as even the Nial river use to flow out to the Atlantic.

[@tomcollins5112]

The question is, how did Herodotus come up with that date? What sources was he drawing from?

[@godzilla12325]

​@@tomcollins5112 i read in an ancient manuscript he over heard someone mention it in the local ale house when he was on the razz.

[@drscopeify]

The Pyramids were carbon dated 2600 years is the great Pyramid. That's all there is too it.

[@tmdwu5360]

​@@tomcollins5112 not sure about that but he got his Atlantis knowledge from Egyptians, they very likely knew more about pyramids and the sphinx at the time but that knowledge was mostly lost to time.

[@andrewcoleman5095]

​@@drscopeify All the carbon dating shows is how old a bit of plant matter was in between some joints on the exterior of the structure, not what I would call conclusive data. Especially when you consider mortar has been applied at several different points in "recorded" history.

[@SamtheIrishexan]

Fun fact, we still don't lnow how old the pyramids are, well we have a good idea, but it would ruin alot of experts careers if they were wrong about the age of the pyramids and other megalithic construction. Especially cyclopean masonry.

[@chilibeer3912]

It’s so weird how ancient people would only read things that reaffirmed their beliefs. Glad we’ve moved past that.

[@katarinalove8649]

Thats not true at all. People still think ancient Egypt were white. When j. Fact ancient ancient Egypt were black

[@KingPyrrhus]

@@katarinalove8649 Holy shit you indoctrinated leftists actually believe the we wuz kangz meme. Sub saharan africans, who are black, were NOT egyptians.

[@TheFunniBaconMan]

Can I just say I love the little bits of comedic text you put in these videos. Like the Yelp review for Egypt.

[@classictoby5309]

The Marc Antony yelp review got a good laugh of out me

[@Eignerartig]

In fact there was more time between the building of the pyramides and the reign of Cleopatra than between the reign of Cleopatra and Neil Armstrong on the moon.

[@FemtoKitten]

Those Yelp reviews were lovely! thanks for all the hard work you do

[@nickg1895]

We still don’t know when they were built. All I know is that there is no chance that is was during Khufu’s reign that the Pyramids were built. They had been build for hundreds of not thousands of years before his reign

[@MyPhobo]

Marc Antony isn't lying, there are some absolutely Beautiful Egyptian women.

[@mileslong3904]

How can you tell with the burkha and all that?

[@Glitter_H_Hoof]

@@mileslong3904 egypt isn't iran

[@mileslong3904]

@@Glitter_H_Hoof Iran isn't the only country that wraps their women in bedsheets.

[@Glitter_H_Hoof]

@@mileslong3904 you're not the only person with wet wipes for a brain either

[@dazednotconfused1503]

"Numa working on bars for his next album"

[@Crazimir]

It is not KNOWN when the pyramids were built - it is assumed that they were built during the 1st and 2nd kingdoms. It is not fact, it is assumption. An extremely unlikely assumption when one considers the amount of stonework that would require in a relatively short period.

[@O-plaat]

57.5 stones per person every year.... (if you use the lowest guess of how many construction workers there were) not really that impossible.

[@DoeSwiftandBond]

Herodotus, Marc Antony and Not A Nile Crocodile were a highlight of this theatrically digital informative gazing show video... Thing.

[@laughsatchungus1461]

they preferred to see egypt through the lense of their own culture and classics? and disregarded information that contradicted that? craxy how we do that to rome today LMAO...

[@dj-kq4fz]

The Yelp review was spot on

[@bx3556]

This is not accurate. Viewing things from your own cultural or traditional authors could actually be valuable insight. The idea that "they have to be from that culture to have some accuracy" is a simplistic and usually incorrect idea. Yes many Greek philosophers could have been wrong but it is very likely that the pyramids and sphinx are extremely old, much older than some of the radio carbon dating which isn't too accurate (you need to measure from higher places in the pyramid) and the Egyptian govt does not let a lot of people examine these places. And it may indicate that the civilization that built the pyramids was long gone and has little or anything to do with modern Egyptians. You have to remember there's water erosion around the Sphinx and there are not hieroglyphs in the pyramids.

[@johncgibson4720]

Wow. I have been trying to ignore this channel until now I am half way through reading the Iliad. And this video opens my eyes.

[@VendPrekmurec]

Diodorus was correct about dating the Pyramids, simply because he knew the Zep tepi era, starting around 28 290 BCE, simply because Roman historians have had more historical information from Greeks and Egyptians themselves. One example is Josephus Scaliger, quoting Manetho... Manetho claimed that 9 gods (dynasties) ruled over Egypt in Zep tepi era... Berosus's list of Antedilivuan kings starts with 120 kings that ruled over Sumeria... if we correct the fake dating "3600" to 144 (as was the holy number of Egypt) we get 17 280 years before the Great Flood (ca 10 000 BCE) + 2000 = 29 280 BCE (as the start of Aryan Chaldean Sumeria) and "few" years later the start of Antediluvian Egypt - according to Roman historian Eusebius the start of Egypt around 27 000 BCE. Romans knew that Osiris (=Vedic demon Asura, enemy of Devas like was Horus (Osiris's /Asura's fake son; Horus was Ukrainian/Russian (Scythian) / Hyperborean deity called Hors or Horo, still known today under "Horovod dance"; another name for Shiva or Svetovid or god Mars (always depicted as a "red planet" - Mars (Horus being "sun" is another occult LIE)... being born around 13 753 BCE in current Sri Lanka (another name for Bacchus or Bahasura or Asura)... "modern" "historians" are brainwashed by the Torahic (aka "old" Testament) point of view about Egypt, even being "younger than Hebraic calendar"...- few people on this planet know that Leningrad Codex or aka "the oldest Torah" was written down in 1009 AD (not BC); and DSS were written in old Greek and not "Hebraic" (Phoenician)) around 5-12th century AD)) in fact Romans knew what they were talking about.

[@error5202]

Love the Yelp review

[@ryanmagee2623]

What a disgracefully long inappropriate ad in this

[@patrickols]

Good question but to be fair I don’t think that even the Egyptian knew how old the pyramids were

[@RS-ni3lj]

Crazy to think that even to the Romans, Egypt was an ancient civilization.

[@The_Butler_Did_It]

The Romans had a bit of a mania for collecting Egyptian obelisks, All together there are 13 in Rome, more than twice the number that is still left in the whole of Egypt. The Constantius obelisk was the last one to be taken to Rome, it now stands outside the Lateran,

[@N.Eismann]

What about the Kings' lists stating the *exact same thing* as Herodotus and Diodorus? It's really amazing how modern academia is claiming to be more knowledgable while having 99% less source material than the ancients.

[@robertbruce7686]

Imagine (as an ancient Roman) that you were pondering over a gold brick recovered from an Egyptian tomb that had the inscription "Kilroy was here"? 😉 On a more serious note...excellent videos. Very insightful.

[@johanneswestman935]

We don’t know how old they are. There are generally accepted timelines but the sphinx may be significantly older than we think.

[@thehamstercreo6890]

numa about to drop pure fire on the latin tribes

[@hvermout4248]

"The Classics preferred to perceive Egypt through the lenses of their own culture and classics. What those lenses could not show, they had no wish to see." A bit like British historians then ...