Did This Qantas Flight Computer Have a Mind of its Own?

Initial investigation into the loss of control on Qantas Flight 72 reveals a disturbing theory: the plane's fly-by-wire system may have sent rogue commands to the flight control surface.
From the Series: Air Disasters: Free Fall bit.ly/2T26tKs

[@microwaveman2193]

Airbus: We haven't seen anything like this Boeing: **heavily sweating**

[@baturaykumbaroglu6066]

:)

[@rafbarkway5280]

This is what happens when a fly by wire Aircraft flighs near a 1 megawhatt ERP 19.2khz VLF transmitter,same as Quantas 71. Faults are related to wiring lenghs,resonance at 19.2khz in any long wire..hard to predict what will happen,and very difficult to test on the ground. The real questions are, 1) why was the fly by wire system not more tollerent of corrupt data? 2) Why the phony "we tried looking at interference but could not reproduce fault" Like,did they really have a 1MW VLF generator to play with? 3)Did they try flying a plane over the transmitter to check BER (bit error rate) on the Fly by wire busses?

[@cancelanime1507]

U mean 737

[@rapidblazer6864]

How do they know that the data that the screen is getting is correct

[@juerbert1]

@@rafbarkway5280 , You seem to have insight, the fly-by wires are not shielded against outside interference !!

[@AbeLeon07]

"Did the Qantas flight computer have a mind of its own?" "We don't know. Let's ask Airbus." 😂

[@cormacrohda319]

Yea cos it's an airbus plane

[@sodaloader6190]

Abe90 I get it

[@maximilianwunderwald5679]

Abe90 yeeeeeettt!!!!

[@isuckatcubing5717]

😂😂😂

[@glipk]

lol

[@kevinsullivan6106]

Thank you all for your supportive comments towards the crew of QF72. It was a science fiction scenario that became a reality; confused computers using automation to harm rather than protect our aircraft, crew and passengers. I see there are many technical questions here and I recommend you read the book I have written on this flight entitled, "No Man's Land". I talk in depth about the flight, what went wrong, what went right, the heroic actions of the passengers and crew, and the investigation into the causes of the accident. I was hoping that our event would be the last accident involving bad automation, but the recent 737 MAX accidents have indicated that we have a long way to go. Sadly, there are many similarities in these tragic aviation events. Thank you for your continued support. Captain Sullivan

[@Czechkistan]

Yeah no problem

[@annieng5109]

When the pilot dies in an air accident, passengers applaud the Captain as Hero telling that he gave his life to save his passengers, no one cares the serious injury then. For a few (or may be many) passengers with injury, it's difficult for them to digest seeing the Captain coming out of the cockpit without physical injury even after such a disaster happened in the cabin. They were unable to fathom out the mental injury hiding inside the Captain's unhurt body. I would rather prefer to live with an injured body than plunging into the deep Indian Ocean. Bravo & salute to the Captain. Always a Fighter.

[@IHATEFORTNITE12]

@@Czechkistan fake airbus

[@IHATEFORTNITE12]

You're a LEGEND

[@Czechkistan]

@@IHATEFORTNITE12 okay so? Atleast I dont post fake videos

[@Ichsukatanuka]

Crew: What are you doing? Quantas Computer: Crashing this plane.

[@kellyweingart3692]

😂😂😂😂

[@ayaan9646]

*Qantas

[@Mark50x]

Bane

[@anakilangs1038]

mcas crash 2 plane qantas 72 : first time?

[@IDDMGAM3RZ]

737Max: nah

[@liamdenys_]

Love how the investigators changed accents after a few years 😂

[@super_3410]

I think the investigators in the show were actors, I’m not certain though.

[@excaliburring753]

Supersuperman341 Gaming They were. It’s a reconstruction.

[@ameliawickborn6159]

cause they’re actors lol

[@noahbingham9339]

@@super_3410 r/woooosh

[@noahbingham9339]

@@ameliawickborn6159 r/woooosh

[@eliaspuolakka290]

Airbus: I make automated death traps for a living. Boeing: That's so cool can I try that too?

[@cipher9095]

Elias Puolakka airbus are definitley death traps sure thats what planes are today death traps Wtf is wrong with u kid

[@eliaspuolakka290]

@@cipher9095 Hey "kid" r/woosh

[@cipher9095]

Elias Puolakka sry misunderstood it

[@eliaspuolakka290]

@@cipher9095 No problem

[@redhen334]

Mcdonnell Douglas: get on my level, DC-10 is where it’s at. It can kill you even if you aren’t in the plane (Concorde accident). Oh and also The DC in it means Death Contraption by the way.

[@arjunchatterjee9362]

Airbus: We hate pilots flying aircraft and want to completely remove pilot manual override on our planes. Boeing: Well, seems like a cool idea lets implement it.

[@novemberdelta1282]

Dude what the f*ck. Stop making fun about air incidents and crashes.

[@sheerri]

Boeing (c. 2019): I have made a grave error

[@afterglowproductions8547]

Arjun Chatterjee Boeing always tried to keep manual but now see what happens when they tried fly-by-wire.....

[@jaypastrana416]

Same fault as 737 max 8, but luckily caught and corrected all thanks to the diligence of the ATSB. Unlike the FAA that has chosen to wait for a second 737 max 8 to literally fly itself to the ground.

[@abramo7700]

It's fine if one plane breaks. Don't worry.

[@GabbieTheFox]

@Scorpio Rose People start dying and their relatives start suing... Then we'll fix it.

[@joeboi1342]

737 max is completely safe the pilots worked for airlines who wanted to save money and not fully teach pilots how to use MCAS

[@jennyjohn704]

@@joeboi1342 BS. Boeing hid the new system so it could claim that the pilots wouldn't need extra training. They didn't know how to use the new system because Boeing didn't tell them it was there.

[@Knee-Lew]

@@jennyjohn704 they even hid the real meaning of MCAS: Magically Crash (our) Airplane Systematically

[@joshuazhou2404]

Crew: Are you crashing this plane? Computer: Yes

[@mhmd.bstki9]

Lmfaooooooo

[@VizionWorksEditing]

Thankfully in airbus it didn’t happen on takeoff and you can recover from 37,000 feet

[@cesarkrones495]

VizionWorksEditing boeing triggered

[@eddieflxible379]

The Qantas crew had more room to play with. If they didn’t, then Airbus would’ve had some explaining to do

[@joeboi1342]

Eddie Anthony also quantas is a great company

[@Knee-Lew]

@@joeboi1342 Even so, they didn't grant the pilot a reward, for his heroic action on saving 315 passenger lives on flight QF72. www.change.org/p/qantas-forgotten-heroes-of-qantas-flight-qf72

[@bulletnotloaded3586]

@@joeboi1342 What does Qantas have to do with this?

[@sourodeepghosh3820]

Kind of what happened in boeing 737 max

[@reinofederaldemaltiva3923]

Yeah.

[@samuelbadger4371]

Rip the MAXs

[@a_urelio6494]

MCAS wasent invented that time.

[@hb3549]

The most recent Ethiopian crash was a deliberate one engineered by the Israeli government to bring down the USA and become the new superpower; since all the allegations, many companies from China and other countries have offered to make planes for America, and this is not a conspiracy, just a hidden truth

[@adriendiaz739]

I was about to comment that R.I.P to ever one who perished in The lion Air and Ethiopian Incidents.

[@thunderbird1921]

Annnd this is why fully automated planes are NOT a good idea. Good grief.

[@crazyoncoffee]

When implemented correctly, automation helps reduce accidents hugely. BUT; as can be seen with the current DISASTER of the latest plane by Boeing Corp, if you implement automation thoughtlessly, you can only expect the worst.

[@zeden3075]

^

[@851995STARGATE]

Blame Boeing not automation

[@farukche3848]

737 max

[@michaelwang9194]

In most cases, the computer is better due to its faster reaction time and all of the safety systems integrated. In Airbus' case, the FBW system has saved many lives over the years. A crash due to FBW makes it seem like it is dangerous until you consider that Boeing aircraft without automated systems have crashed more. In some cases, a Boeing crashes in a situation that an Airbus could have remedied. BTW, Airbus has a better safety record. The A350 and A380 have had a total of 0 fatal accidents, whereas both the A330 and A340 have had only a couple of fatal accidents combined. Compare that to Boeing's safety record. Fully automated planes have much better safety records when implemented correctly, like on the Airbus. In this case, it perplexes me as to why the computer didn't detect the erroneous data as it should.

[@DMshooter]

because australian investigators have american accents

[@rafaeltorre1643]

Should they have Americans with an Australian accent? American investigators investigate every crash in the world. They are American.

[@kp5602]

@@rafaeltorre1643 So because theyre american they investigate all crashes around the world? Whatre they some superior authority because of their nationality?

[@lawrencestroll8559]

R Fabian are yoy dumb did you watch the video and talk to the actual investigators they have Australian accents

[@jasonvoorhees6152]

Yeah why couldn't they hire me? I'm an Australian actor and voice-over artist. I could have played one of the investigators in my normal voice. they can go to my website to contact my talent agency to get me on the show. jacoblorenzo.actor/

[@MarielynetteJohnson]

Yeah, and damaged roofs have invisible holes.

[@justinw-bs7053]

This is probably the most sudden weird thing going around on a Aviation accident

[@BudderB0y2222]

This is honestly a genius marketing strategy. Give us just enough of a clip to leave us hungry for more. I gotta binge watch these wanna I get home

[@u8f7]

It really bothers me that, ultimately, they weren't able to determine what caused the flight computer to go berserk. The same problem happened to a total of three planes all off the coast of Western Australia so they suspected that it had something to do with that environment but they could never work it out. It's kinda spooky.

[@icantevenproductions]

because they were hacked obviously

[@abizair1832]

Might be caused by bit flips tho

[@swankykoala4836]

@@abizair1832 I actually saw from a Veritasium video mentioning this accident saying that the error was caused by cosmic radiation flipping a bit from a 1 to a 0.

[@allanisgay8666]

The plane was on Sicko Mode Edit : EEEK HOW’D THIS GET SO MUCH LIKES???!?!? TYSM GUYS. Edit 2 : oh my

[@TheOmega13a]

I remember reading an interview the captain gave and he said the computer went psycho.

[@SuspectedPrimeW]

hm

[@allanisgay8666]

Sus hm

[@Gary-pe4ce]

PW

[@prod.hxrford3896]

200 likes is not much...

[@XerxesLangrana]

So, what did Airbus have to say? I don't think there has been an incident such as this one on any other Airbus aircraft, so I would like to know what exactly happened on this particular A330.

[@aleishamistry5361]

Broooo I wanna know what happened I hate how they leave it like this

[@liamhodgkinson5031]

It ended well for everyone on board because QANTAS aircraft haven’t had a single fatality or hull loss since 1951

[@abthurd]

Original AOA data was okay but the cpu corrupted the data and sent it to ADIRU making it seems like the nose is pitching up and entering stall situation. Everybody survive but some had severe injuries due to the free fall

[@joannaswerdlow7426]

A few injuries emergency landing no fatalities

[@theflyinggasmask]

Everyone is going bezerk on the 737 MAX, but this, nah, never happened..

[@eddieflxible379]

The Flying Gasmask yep Airbus led the way in trying to build a pilot proof automatic airplane.

[@spaghetti9067]

Well I mean it didn’t crash unlike the 737 which ploughed into the ground twice

[@vinikk77]

but this happened to 737 MAX twice

[@theinternetguy33]

Investigators: "I dont know. Lets ask airbus"

[@Monoplayz]

2:16 **Investigator see bunch of like going up and down** Also him: I've never seen anyting like this.

[@usmale4915]

It's the result of the Airbus computer system. It happened on 3 Qantas A330's! Just watched the entire episode on the Smithsonian Channel!

[@kevinsullivan6106]

"No Man's Land" is the full story of the QF72 accident and the aftermath.

[@bendyrulestheworld9121]

Cabin and all the other people: Hey i can fly! A330: No we are crashing.

[@killingfields1424]

Fly by wire problems can be traced on its INU-Inertial Navigation Unit. Its the culprit of lots of crashes on first versions of a combat aircraft that pioneered the Fly By Wire technology.... The F-16. This technology also found its way in a company called Magnetti Marelli. Suceeded in perfecting it where an American Submarine maker General Dynamics who also build the F-16 fails. It took the lives of 20 of its pilots before General Dynamics finally perfected it. Its problems was discovered on its wiring design, and solved it by using fiber optics, using lights instead of electrical impulses to transmit data faster from its sensors to the computer. But in the case of the airliners, the sensor is also the cause of the crash

[@albertvanzyl3499]

Why am I watching this while boarding an airplane???

[@WhataManiac]

I hope u landed

[@albertvanzyl3499]

@Anish, I just about did.

[@rafbarkway5280]

Thinking about it,until someone actually flys over the 1MW ERP VLF transmitter and measures the quantity of data erors generated on the fly by wire busses,we will not know the definative cause.

[@artyjaycayairlines]

Plane warning sound: Stall, Stall! Plane computer warnings: Overspeed THAT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE!!!

[@Ysalomet]

Yes That is why it was understood that there was a serious fault of communication between the plane's CPU and it's ADIRU, causing the plane to malfunction while on autopilot...

[@Aniisananime]

I think the 737 Max mode was on by mistake, pilots must be trained to use it, remember when ever you need to do emergency landing and you are at a very high altitude this 737 Max button is supposed to be turned on in order to lose maximum altitude as soon as possible ( danger increase by 693746% ). Otherwise the 737 Max button must be always off

[@PilotUnknownX]

Are you joking?

[@user-mt2zf7bw7o]

@@PilotUnknownXr/wooooooooooosh

[@Bobsunfire]

I cannot believe that a flight control system would be designed this way. I should be designed such that a max control input cedes control to the pilot, disconnects the computer control and tells the pilot in unambiguous terms the new status. I build and fly model airplanes and that's the way we do it. Boeing is crazy!

[@p0llenp0ny]

This happened to an Airbus. Not a Boeing.

[@samva350]

Get out of here 737 max 8 and 9

[@Gary-pe4ce]

This happened before 737 max 8

[@Waddle_Dee_With_Internet]

This comment is non sense.

[@sovietonion72]

I know it's a recreation but that guy doing the investigation looks like he just left high school 😂

[@roberthudson1959]

Some people don't look their age. My cousin is an engineer who works for the USN. Without his beard, he doesn't look old enough to drive.

[@pasques]

"Ive never seen anything like this" Dude, you've never used a computer before, have you?

[@yasiraosiris1115]

Captain Sullivan a hero !

[@yellowdude9425]

"I'm afraid I can't do that Dave"

[@340fanatic6]

Great timing Smithsonian.

[@allmightywhale]

I cannot do that Dave

[@coltons6242]

These are the videos I sub for 🤫

[@Oliver-pi4wd]

Yes !

[@coolperson4582]

Cute

[@johnbenson3174]

Took them long enough to figure out that the one of the first thing they should do is contact Airbus

[@TomGD]

This is why leave the 75% to the pilots NOT THE COMPUTERS

[@michaelwang9194]

In most cases, the computer is better due to its faster reaction time and all of the safety systems integrated. In Airbus' case, the FBW system has saved many lives over the years. A crash due to FBW makes it seem like it is dangerous until you consider that Boeing aircraft without automated systems have crashed more. In some cases, a Boeing crashes in a situation that an Airbus could have remedied.

[@kevinsullivan6106]

No Man's Land is the full story of the QF72 accident and the aftermath, on amazon.

[@Minong_Manitou_Mishepeshu]

Well what did Airbus say?

[@Canardeur]

Airbus would probably have said the same as usual: "Pilot error!"

[@anthonymolina7416]

Airbus and boieg like to tell nonsense

[@ben11k]

Anthony Molina You can’t even spell Boeing...

[@ffroghnourm7990]

Boeing can do no wrong! Airbus shit and ugly so they dumb

[@anthonymolina7416]

Ben43065 borewing

[@JayJayAviation]

If people reacted to this flight the way they did with the 737 MAX: “Shut down Airbus ans throw it’s CEO in jail, this was almost murder” “I’m never flying on an Airbus plane ever again” “The engineers should be fired” “I’m never flying on any airline that flies Airbus planes”

[@subhambhattacharjee4826]

Yeah I can see terminator movie to come real in future

[@HazmatUnit]

Hal 9000: "I'm sorry Dave, I'm I can't do that"

[@videowilliams]

The pilot used that exact analogy in another interview.

[@RUHappyATM]

No.... Its HAL. He's back.

[@parthshedge7440]

Crew *captain pull the joystick up* Captain*pulls up the joystick* Captain again*pull up* Flight computer*woohoo* Flight computers wife*lets crash this plane*

[@arillwiltker]

How do we go about watching the rest of these stories? I keep only seeing the 3-4 min clips with no resolution!

[@TheAio]

I think it's just parts of a series you can buy somewhere

[@GabbieTheFox]

@@TheAio Correct.

[@scottgamedev8542]

Thats not what the real pilots looked like but very cool love your channel

[@JacobChacko3008]

Somewhat or maybe just like the MCAS issue but no lives were lost

[@khalidabdulghani]

What did Airbus say?

[@victorcrowley8417]

stall and overspeed 🤣🤣

[@prabeeshkk8997]

It's skynet taking over

[@jameseverett5778]

Another more questions then answers ehhh...not a good scenario

[@stuartcampbell4414]

How the tables have turned

[@samuelbadger4371]

I love the narrator

[@igeorgoudi]

This plane went all HAL 9000 on the pilots

[@Harry-fu9bp]

Thank gosh I’m flying Qantas tomorrow!

[@toukyoumaster8734]

The difference between this incident and the Boeing MAX problems is that this was caused by a faulty sensor, but the plane could always be flown manually without problems, but the MAX has problems with flying manually that requires MCAS to fix.

[@GabbieTheFox]

Close enough... Although with this flight it is believed to be natural interference that corrupted the data from adiru 1.

[@lucah1824]

And this is why you don't over computerize things. Or if you do, you have a kill switch to take full, manual, classical control of the aircraft.

[@ColtMANATOmmgaschambered]

Boeing: hey look at me, I’m a Stuka that can’t pull out of a dive!

[@Samara.Weaving]

*So did they ask Airbus?*

[@rafbarkway5280]

Quantas 71 and 72 experienced data errors in their fly-by-wire systems when flying close to the SAME 1Mw VLF transmitter, these errors have never been reported on any other Airbus anywhere,so the chances of these incidents NOT being related to high VLF RF levels is statistically unlikly. NOTE these errors were far more widespread than just AOA data being mis-labled, but all other systems contunued to work anyway,the only system caught out was the anti-stall because just like MAX 8,the data was un-verified.Luckily, they didn't have MCAS overiding their inputs and were able to correct the flight path,albeit a bit late as the auto-systems react faster than the poor PF.

[@Kirovets7011]

Airbus is, almost from day 1, giving the on-board computers far to much authority! That's insane. By doing this, pilots will in the longer term, 'loose' their ability to actually fly the plane, and/or the ability to deal with problems, concerning the behaviour of the aircraft. They are often even blocked by the computer to take over control!!

[@tomstravels520]

You don’t know anything about Airbus aircraft do you? You can disable the protections if you know how to and turning off the faulty ADIRU would have immediately rectified the problem

[@user-mt2zf7bw7o]

ever heard of a 737 max

[@mohammadhooda2877]

Computers vs humans??????????????????

[@mayisha_63]

So now that they have no idea about why a plane could suddenly pull its nose up while its nose is really low, they go ask the manufacturers? Smart.

[@raymondmyers6899]

What a TEASE!!! Leave us hanging!!!

[@safatiscool4684]

Elon musk: oh I'm adding this to my Tesla company Airbus is smarter than Elon musk

[@leeryspritegaming8156]

This Is The Rarest Of Rarest This Happened When Electromagnetic Waves Hit The Plane And Changed it's Clocking Digits.

[@ryanvess6162]

So what evidence do you have for this, it would be interesting to see if there was solar activity related

[@GabbieTheFox]

@@ryanvess6162 The ATSB concluded that while it cannot be proven since it can't be replicated in a controlled environment, the likely explanation is that the ADIRU unit was manufactured in a way that left it susceptible to data corruption due to cosmic rays.

[@goodguyyt]

Plot twist: the computers they are working on had minds of their own

[@tonymurray814]

Soooooo what the f#%k happened!!!!!!!😳

[@Gary-pe4ce]

The plane thought it was flying nose up so it "corrected itself", and went in a nose dive. The computer rejected pilot inputs, they probably had to reboot the system

[@aron787]

I didn’t know that the Airbus A330 had an flight engineer panel🤔

[@JayJayAviation]

It doesn’t

[@TheChief005]

*airbus trying to remove pilots*

[@Waddle_Dee_With_Internet]

Lol

[@truthwillprevail9099]

I hate incomplete stories of this channel

[@GlitchedBlox]

System: *ya wanna know how it feels to dive bomb?*

[@csonkaperdido]

Remember folks - the FIRST EVER public flight of a "fly by wire" plane, an Airbus in France at an airshow... Crashed. The video is on KZbin and the cover up was absolutely criminal.

[@GabbieTheFox]

If I remember correctly, that was due to the fact that the pilots were trying to show off the stall protection... But they left the landing gear down... And as a result the aircraft thought the pilots were trying to land, so the stall protection didn't activate and the aircraft stalled while basically being "on the deck" to borrow a navy term.

[@somerandomguyfromthebeyond1821]

ok who here program skynet into the flight computer?

[@josh6706]

Lol did anyone else get stuck in an endless loop with the recommendations here?

[@nitehawk9270]

It's why automation is so dangerous. I'd rather give pilots the control then a computer. A computer is great and will prevent minor incidents and tail strikes. But i would rather a captain make a choice and choose a tail strike for instance and save the passengers rather then "save the aircraft". Humans have all the facts, computers just have what they are programmed to see and act on. But they can't feel. Considering the rate of pilots killing passengers I would take that risk over any better computers. Even if that means twice as many more psyc evals, i think captains would take that with the increased control of their birds.

[@khonwang6263]

*These are wild🦍 angles of attck* WILLLLDDD RIP ATSB

[@nurnurka1190]

wow new one!🔥

[@fredchipps3237]

Yep it aired on Monday

[@VZ-Warrior_Soul]

A.I. mode. Full effect

[@NickWilmans]

Airbus: Computer says Noooooo!

[@ShadowViewsOnly]

Is there some platform it's possible to watch these episodes in full length from Hungary? Cuz I for sure wanna see this.

[@thihuongnguyen6527]

Airbus A330: nearly done it ahhhhhh Boeing 737 MAX: i will continue your tradition sir

[@livingonadollar2882]

Let's go ask Airbus...But before i go i have to re apply my make up ...

[@techsupportranjit7637]

Why do Australian pilots have American accents?

[@MattKearneyFan1]

Aérospatiale/BAC Concorde well the show is made in America

[@Deso958]

Possibly because the Captain Kevin Sullivan is an American pilot living in Australia.

[@jeffalvich9434]

Computers should always report to human beings....never should a person report to a computer

[@lilsins656]

Everybody gangsta till fly by wire fails

[@dyingofcringe8839]

You ned the Aircraft DLC to play this part of Detroit: Become Human

[@anishmahajan8131]

How can I watch complete episode of this investigation

[@robv4499]

Where do I find the full documentary?

[@deepakmjohn3259]

where can I watch the full documentary?

[@badkarma44]

Not for nothing..... I love this series. This is putting me to sleep. Time to get new narrators

[@charlottedeville974]

So what caused the misss reading?

[@jlzart4959]

It’s megaton in disguise!

[@mondaymotivator_]

Detroit become human 2: awareness in the sky

[@EpicThe112]

Very identical to the B737 Max 8 & Max 9 crashes such as 3/10/2019 Addis Ababa ET 502 & Lion Air

[@Mnck01377]

Lets go ask Airbus. [Dramatic Music]

[@lolsplayz7066]

Nice vid